NEW 60V Toro SUPER RECYCLER - In Depth Review
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2022
- NEW 60V Toro SUPER RECYCLER - In Depth Review
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Economy is probably for battery life. Also. As a nerd and car guy. I'm not mad at your use of "clutch feathering".
1981 Datusn 210 station wagon. 5 speed manual. My first car. Did reallly good burnouts in dirt alleys.
@@Thelawncarenut I just received my Toro Super Recycler 60v 7.5ah mower from UPS today. I put everything togwther and the only thing that I noticed was the right front wheel seems like it doesn't make full contact with the ground like the other 3 wheels do?? I double checked on a flat even surface to make sure it wasn't on an uneven surface and I noticed the same thing. Has anyone noticed this with this mower? It sucks knowing I'm going to have to return the unit and wait for another one to come in.
@@paulmaestas8709 Don’t return it. Call Will Smith. He’ll slap that shit back into place.
@@Thelawncarenut buy a Fiskars reel mower & be a stud, instead of battery powered wuss plastic, 🤣🤣🤣. Connor Ward for yard President!!!
@@Thelawncarenut The clutch is exactly what is being used. The spring action of the handle is the actuator instead of the foot pedal. Clutch does not care what the power is coming from. Its job is to transfer the power, not analyze it.
Thank you LCN for all you do. I’ve learned a lifetime’s worth of lawn care stuff from you.
I have the Toro model 21466 I picked up by directly ordering from Toro. It has adjustable points for the handle that make it easy to set the way you like it. The wheel adjusters are the same Toro PIA levers. I used it all last season and love it. So easy to care for and the battery last long enough I can mow my yard one and a half time on one charge. It came with only one blade and doesn't have a speed adjustment, but does have the sensor that will turn up the RPMs if the grass is thick. Now I need to replace my Snow Blower with an electric model.
"Feather the clutch" was my nickname in college...I like the look of the higher priced SR...I have the 2020 gas SR and I've loved every minute of it...
Excellent video.
Your graphics, soundtrack and video quality separate you from the guys who just put an unfocused GoPro on a cardboard box and talk too much.
Your humor and concise review are icing on the cake.
Most people generally have no idea how long it takes to shoot and edit a video like this. Thanks for posting it. Well done!
can't wait to check this out. new mower really is a must buy this year and given it's complementary to my tractor, mostly for cutting in smaller/tighter areas, a battery powered unit is on my radar.
Hoping to see some project lawns or lawn renovations sometime soon. Love seeing you tackle a project and show us how to make great lawn out of something that is in desperate need of love and care.
I bought my gas super recycler a month ago. Love the way it cuts.
I have the 2021 Toro plain jane version .I paid about 350.00 dollars for it. I bought the 7.5 Amp battery as the mower came with the 6 Amp . I have been using this machine for going on 2 years with no issues. It cuts a beautiful lawn and has plenty of power !
i was hunting for one last year, and as you know it just wasn't happening. I couldn't find anything at any dealer at least here in Canada.
I went with the 60V Recycler with vortex, it has that perforated air channel or whatever. Turns out I love it. My yard isn't giant and I can cut front and back with just enough left over to go over areas that needed extra attention.. custom height adjustments aren't the smoothest to learn, but my lawn at the street tapers down, so I have to higher on the outside not to scalp it.
I enjoy watching your reviews, I appreciate all the info on lawn mowers!
I love my Super Recycler (gas powered black model). I have an old beat up Recycler that I used on my weed lawn in my back yard, and when I switch over to my SR, it is so unbelievably easier to push. I really enjoy the mow when I am using that beast. Thanks for getting me hooked on my Toro SR, Allyn!
Smart of you to use separate mowers to avoid contaminating your turf grass with weed seed. That's gardener's sensibility, there!
@@campbellpaul It is funny you say that, as that is exactly why I do it, as well as keeping my good blades from being wrecked by the weeds. I even go as far to tell my wife and kids to stay off of the grass if they have recently walked in the back yard on my weed lawn...LOL!
@@campbellpaul OH....and where I live, weeds are freaking everywhere. Our property is next to and on top of orchards, if you could picture that, and the builders did not use any weed blockers during the process. Johnson's grass is our worst enemy in the weed family here. Look it up, if you haven't heard of it. It is almost demonic.
@@littlepoolefam3 Yeah, I have a grip of Toro mowers that I have been collecting the past 8 years... Various old '80s models that I found to be very tolerable to use as a teenager back when these types were new. I live in NM where the climate is very dry and these mowers are all very well preserved and would otherwise sit for months on Craigslist because nobody in my area knows what they are. I totally get you (and your enjoyment of the 2020 SR)
Saw this video after I just ordered this model Toro E mower yesterday. Keeping my fingers crossed since I love all my previous Toro Super Cyclers. Thanks for the great video.
I month review of or new Toro E. Cheaper built than 2 yr old gas mower. Much cheaper. Cutting is good. Mulches very good. Surprisingly good. Problem is I only get 38 minutes on average of battery life. Can’t cut our 1/4 lawn SUCKS. $70o+ and can’t cut my entire lawn. Toro blew it on this engineering nightmare.
I liked your review of the Toro Super Recycler. I currently own a Ryobi cross cut. I did write an email to Toro and suggested they look at the Ryobi height adjustment, handle, and the lift handle which allows you to pick up the Ryobi mower with one hand since the weight fore and aft is balanced. I would like to mention two items that most reviews do not include. The first is cleaning out under the deck. The Toro you can use a hose to clear out the grass. This is really important in my few when the grass has dew on it. Most other battery mowers you will void your warranty if you do that. And Toro is one of the few that have an established service organization. Any Toro dealer will honor your warranty, which is 5 years on this mower. The Ryobi also has a 5 year warranty BUT try to find someone one that will honor it. Most Home Depots do not even look at them, they send them out to a service center probably in another state. They tell you it will take about 6 weeks to get it back. When I complained to customer service I was told they are allowed 90 days. Also, Ryobi will tell you they have independent service centers available in the area. Well, I contacted 5 of them in Michigan and they all said they stopped doing warranty work but would work on them for cash. I could only find one service location about 30 miles away who would honor the warranty but it would be at least 6 weeks before he could even look at it. Now maybe you won’t require warranty work. I would suggest you consider it before you buy it.
I bought their single stage snow blower with two batteries this year. I really like it and don't think I'll ever own a gas blower ever again. Having the two batteries would make this an easier purchase for me. I may have to consider going to a battery mower now knowing it actually works well.
Thanks for the detailed review. Trying to talk myself into purchasing the new 60v 21568. This video has convinced me to go ahead and get one ordered. Something worth noting in reference to the Personal Pace System vs other Manufacturers self propelled mowers is the ease of use without the need to push multiple buttons or squeeze any triggers. With Toro's Personal Pace, you grab the handle and go. I have arthritis as well as carpel tunnel and I've been mowing with a Toro Personal Pace for 23 Years without any issues. I have helped friends and Family from time to time and use their mowers only to end up with sore hands and forearms afterward. Looking forward to the same drive system on a lighter mower.
Your videos are great! You have a GREAT sense of humor and I don't understand why more folks don't have one. I got the EGO and returned it, a little because the build quality made me nervous, but mostly because their solution for powering the wheels with discrete power levels, most of which I'd never use, was as unnatural as it could be. I also really appreciate you digging into the distinction between the recycling Toro's and the super-recycling versions. Without having hands-on experience, it's so hard to know whether those terms are mere marketing b.s. or if there's a difference that warrants the extra expense, so thanks again for that! What cigars are your favorite? I hardly ever get enough down time to enjoy a 2 to 4 hour cigar, despite how much cooler the smoke is, but I do love a shorter torpedo shape and something like those nub cigars can be the perfect size for a little downtime. All the best to you!
Bought a Super Recycler with blade stop for my daughter and Son in law last year . I really liked the personal pace, and the blade stop when moving across gravel areas .
I agree, blade stop is a super sweet option. Especially for me when I have to move cameras around all the time I can keep it running and not have to restart.
Improvements in one area at the cost of features in another. I'm going on my third season with my 60V super mulcher. I bought it over the Ego mainly due to the easy change from mulch to bagging. Also the handle adjustment is easy, no tools needed. The personal pace feature is ok, but I miss my MTD that I could set the speed and it would assist me going up my sloped front yard. That is a plus for me with the Ego.
Later in the fall, I bought the big Ego snowblower (and love it). So, if the battery must be replaced in my Toro, I very well may buy an Ego as I find the 6.0 amp battery often isn't large enough to finish my little city sized lawn. I had bought a Toro 60V leaf blower just to get the battery but it had some annoying features and the charger fan failed so decided to return it and bought the Ego blower. So, having three Ego batteries versus one old Toro battery makes the economics the choice in brand.
Great video! Thank you. Being an ex street rodder, the term "feathering" was correct in my day.
This was super helpful bc my clutch cable is broken and you led me to buy a new belt bc the cable is right there and i don’t want to have to do the same job twice! With me luck. Thanks for the vid!!
Love the review sir! As usual, excellent!
I just ordered one based on your review and finally found one in stock. I tried the regular 60 volt recycler and also living in Florida and having thick St.Agastine grass I was not happy with the cut quality as much as I liked it overall I returned it. With this one having a choice of blades and being able to run it on max power I hope it will be as good as my gas toro. Thank you for in depth review on these and looking forward to receiving mine.
So how did it compare to the regular recycler?
i picked up the 60v super recycler last year, i love mine! and it handles the striping kit from check mate just fine.
Have you noticed any reduction in battery life hauling the checkmate behind it?
Just bought an 80v 21" greenworks mower a few weeks ago and love it. i have an 80v trimmer and blower coming in soon
6:42 😳😆😂 “was also my nickname in college” …….love the content on your channel. Greetings from the Pacific Northwest 🇨🇦
Great review AL! The battery super recycler seems like another great product by Toro and you will definetly be happy with this mower
Got an EGO last year and happy with it. Sounds like there is a striping kit now that will fit it. That is what I was really missing coming from the Toro SR and always striped.
I had an older EGO and it suffers from the same jerky transmission. It wasn't an enjoyable experience at all. I bought a Gen 1 22" 60V recycler and never looked back. The personal pace transmission is smooth and made the mow enjoyable. I still use the other EGO tools since I have the batteries for them. However, I will not go back to their mower. Also you must get the specific blades for the flex force. The normal Toro blades will chew through your battery. I wish they make a Flex Force Timemaster deck. I'd be all over that.
have u tried the dewalt mower?
Well done Allyn. That blacked out look is sharp. 😎🌴👊
I’m a store owner and we’ve sold, STIHL (Greenworks), EGO, Greenworks and now Toro battery mowers. Hands down the best mower is the Toro. Greenworks and EGO are basically throw away units and the Stihl has the same jerky transmissions as other inferior battery units.
What I don’t like about Stihl is that you must go to a dealer to buy spare parts. I want to be able to buy them online and have them in a day or two. Stihl dealers can take weeks!
Ego is the best out of them. Much more thoughtful design and extremely durable.
@@baddriversofcolga dewalt make good mowerS?
Didn't take a store owner to tell me that
The Toro Super Recycler is by far a better mower than the Ego Select Cut. It feels more substantial
I believe the drive uses a belt drive like the gas version to pull power from the main motor. This is why the blades need to be running to engage. It is also why it feels like a clutch engagement. Pushing the handle is literally pushing an idler pulley (clutch) into the belt drive.
Feathering a clutch is exactly what the personal pace does. These electric mowers do it exactly the same as the gas models. As you push onto the handle, it engages the belt being powered by the blade with the wheels transmission. It’s so simple and ingenious and they don’t need a motor for the wheels like most electric mowers have done which is what’s giving you that herky jerky.
Yep, simple and reliable. My 14 year old Super Recycler is still using its original belt. In fact everything on it still works like new.
I usually don’t like product reviews but you can tell a heck of a story my friend 👍 👍
Yeah, good entertaining stuff. Informative in a batman kinda way and some funny quips. Nice work mate. Thanks from Australia.
The instrumentals and scenery was awesome
Shout out to LCN, I see you still rockin the 2 pairs of glasses, lol. I’ve been following LCN lawn program for 2 years and I have THE best looking St Augustine grass on the block. Listen to Allen, you WILL get the results your looking for. Great video as usual. 👍🏽
thank you!! gotta have double shades because I'm so bright!! ha ha!
I enjoy your channel. And I’ve been watching the battery stuff coming out because I do lawn care south of you and I know my customers are looking forward to me switching over to battery equipment
It's a really exciting field when you look at it on the commercial side - alot of advantages. If I was to go into commercial lawn care I'd go battery from the jump.
I love the battery blowers, trimmers and edgers. I will sticking with my time master till it dies. Absolutely love it. Just don't think technology and quality there yet.
The big wheel in the back help keep the bounce down when some lawns are bumpy. I have two toros one with the four small wheels and one with two bigger wheels in the back and the one with the bigger wheels in the back does pushes smoother.
Good Job Allyn...Love the review.....your were honest and fair! All in all I like the Toro.
Man, I am sure glad that I got the 2021 model instead. This new ‘“redesign” looks like a major cost cutting design! I’ve been a toro fan for years, and Between last year and this year I have converted all my equipment to the 60 V line. Including 2021 supercycle 60 V model number 21338. And I love it!
Hi did you mean the 21388?
@@Camp_Jana yes
Have you noticed any change in the self-propel after using it for 2.5 years? Does it seem to be harder to push? I love mine but wonder if I need a repair or adjustment now. Model 21388 2021 year, using the bag in back.
No, not at all.
I can't believe they screwed up their easy handle adjust and didn't improve the deck height or mulch plug at all. Not what I've come to expect from Toro. Not deal breakers for me, but details do matter, especially at this price.
It’s a suspension system type handle adjustment which is why it seems like a step backwards but after you adjust it’s done and the suspension for the handle is 100% worth it. So smooth now.
My Toro Super Recycler (gas model-bought 2 years ago) was the only lawnmower purchase I regretted. Inconsistent cut and hard to disengage the wheels to pull it backward. Immediately went and bought another Honda and couldn't be any happier.
Great review. Looks to be a solid mower after all the kinks are worked out. But damn, that matt all black looks amazing!
Thank you Al!
I'm glad I grabbed the 2021 60v SR. The new one doesn't have a side discharge either (I think you have to order a separate part that goes in the back like my 60v Vortex model). I like to use it sometimes when I double cut. Would have been nice if they put the open/close lever on it like the other models, but I normally just leave the mulch plug in for that one. The battery handles my 3200 sq ft with juice to spare. The SR shock absorbers are awesome! I have a slightly bumpy Fescue lawn and I can really feel the difference between the Vortex and the SR. The 4.25 hoc option is nice during July and August here. Personal Pace has me completely spoiled and contributes greatly to my mowing Zen. : ) For me and my first lawn mowers, and my first time ever mowing experience...I really love both of my Toros.
yes very good point on that side discharge - I forgot to mention that but I do believe some people will not be happy about it lol.
Thanks for the review, I do agree the self propel is jerky on the GW and the fact that you can’t use it without engaging the blades of the toro isn’t great but imo these mowers are so light you can easily get around both those problems. On the green works as you come into a turn around you just get off the self propel until you complete the turn, start pushing the roll on the self propel, no sudden jerk with this technique and with the toro when your in transit mode you just push it without self propel. I used an ego mower commercially and to conserve battery I never used the self propel I just simple pushed it. Now I understand these mowers come with self propel and therefor it should work well but I would mention in your reviews how easy it is to push them and how for some people these issues shouldn’t be a deal breaker.
I noticed that at 2:12 when you started the mower it did not move until you engaged the personal pace handle. When you made the adjustment to the cable your personal pace handle is engaged all the time so the mower moves when started. I would relax it a bit and see if that helps. Keep them coming... Thanks.
Have the 2021 60V SR model 21388. The mow height goes up to 4.25” on that model. I think it uses the usual SR deck and toro just popped in a battery. This newer one has the “side discharge” on the back.
Looks like a great mower, but I don't understand why they would get rid of the mulching handle for a plug. I also don't understand why they still haven't changed the old school height adjustment to the single lever that's so much easier to use. You should ask
You know, I think ironically the Super Recyclers have that plug. Some of the lower end regular Recyclers have the handle. I thought that maybe the plug gives a better seal for better mulching, and that’s why they do it.
The plug on my 3 year old gas Super Recycler is a way better design though. I should have mentioned that.
I thought a single handle height adjustment would be cool, but the way my curbing is in relation to my lawns, I need the ability to adjust one side lower than the other.
Its for consistency with their gas line. If it was a single handle adjustment parts like the wheels would be different
If you're talking about the Bag on Demand system, then the other replies are right, you're thinking about their 22" line. The Super Recyclers have always had a plug. Actually all of their product lines have a plug aside from the 22" line, so nothing was changed there.
Thanks for another great review. 😉
Enjoyed the video Allyn!
I used a blue big box 80V for a full season last year on .4 acres. I love to “push” mow. Some things broke on the wheel axle that can’t be replaced, I was refunded. I will never go to electric again. I now have a 30” personal pace Toro, bought it late fall, and now life is good. Electric doesn’t provide the torque to get a “lift” on the turf blades.
I also adjusted the personal pace cable on mine so that you barely touch it and the mower moves (like you seem to have done). But that still didn't solve the problem of feeling that I had to push too much to get the full speed out of the mower. What I discovered is that IF I TOOK ONE TURN OUT OF THE SPRING that pushes back on the personal pace handle, the mower worked MUCH better and I didn't have to push so hard to get the speed out of it that I was missing. Much more effortless mowing. I was able to adjust the cable back to a more "normal" position similar to where it was originally.
Mine was fine and then recently seems harder to push with the 21388 self propelled. Where was the adjustment made? I will check it out.
@@asha.of.antares Push the personal pace handle and look underneath as you do it. You will see a coiled spring that is pushing back against you as you push further on the handle. I removed one end of the spring and allowed it to uncoil 1 revolution around the handle and then re-attached the end of the spring. This allowed me to get the mower moving without having to push the Personal pace handle so hard. It works perfectly now. But have been incorrectly assembled at the factory.
Personal Pace is awesome when it's working and well-tuned.
the hesitation on the "other" mower is made to give you time to yell, YEEHAW!!!! and then go 😂
Great color - Black with vortex! The best lawnmower in the world!
What I love, more height adjustment levels.
What I hate, the mulch plug and smaller bag.
Curious how it does bagging. I generally mulch, but love the bag for when it gets too high from vacation and of course in the fall for dealing with leaves. Can this pack the bag full and deal with the increasing weight?
I purchased the Greenworks Pro 80v with dual 4amp batteries and dual ports to replace my 6 year old Kobalt 80v (made by Greenworks). I'm very happy with my new Greenworks! It's extremely powerful ad very easy to use. It seems much more solid than the old Kobalt, mostly due to the new aluminum handle design, I think. I paid $560 during the "Presidents' Day" sale, which is awesome. Today I'd probably by the 60v equivalent at Home depot for $479. I do like the aluminum deck of the Super Recycler, but it's disappointing that they eliminated the mulching/bagging selector; that was a great feature of Toro and Honda mowers. But the lack of a single lever hight adjustment is, for me, a deal killer.
Why would you buy the 60v instead? I am currently torn between the 80v and 60v due to the quantity of tools on the platforms.
"What the freak?!" That cracked me up because that is me, but rated "R". I get that way with a lot of my "projects" and things I need to fix. And my wife knows it. Last week I had to replace our water heater expansion tank and our water pressure regulator, and as I was getting my tools ready and everything set, I see my wife walking out, dressed up with, and my son in her arms. I asked her "where are you going?" she said "We are going to get lunch and then to the park. Text us when you're done. We don't want to be around for the swearing." You just reminded me that I may not be the only one out there. I need more patience.
I have two 2 Stroke mowers that are known as the Victa Vortex here inv Australia. One is from 1984 and the other 1985. They mow beautifully but are push only on ball bearing wheels. I have recently repainted both.
I'm with you there. Can't beat the gas mowers if you take care of them and you don't have to wait for something to charge and buy an expensive battery in the future. takes less time to just add gas then charge a battery ;)
@@raresr4092 these things can take serious neglect and keep on ticking so long as you don't straight fuel them.
I just purchased last years 60v SR kit for $400 because I couldn’t imagine this one being $400 better in cut quality. Hope I’m not wrong lol, I haven’t had the chance to use it yet since it’s just hitting spring here.
You’re not wrong. I bought mine in the first year that they were offered and the only year they offered them with a non self propelled model which is what I wanted because it’s twice as reliable. You can always buy whatever Toro blade suits needs best. I buy four new blades a year here in Florida. They aren’t costly.
Nice video! Looks like they need to come out with "Spin Stop" for the battery version like the timemaster and some of the gas Super Recyclers have. If they came out with a 30' cut model, I might have to buy one...
Thanks for the content
I've converted most of my lawn tools to battery. But I just can't make the switch on my mower. I have a Honda HRX and I love it too much to switch.
I did try the EGO from a neighbor and I had the same issue with the drive system. Very jerky and it wouldn't roll backwards sometimes unless I made it go forward and then the wheels would free spin. Very annoying!
Greetings from Upstate NY Al,
Good Video👍🏻
Good Editing👍🏻
Good Information and Tips👍🏻
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Great review.
Personal Pace trumps all other features on any other mower. Navigating around obstacles is so easy and it automatically disengages when I pull backwards. It's also 2 wheel drive instead of 1 wheel drive on other electric mowers. One wheel drive tends to pull to one side and gets stuck easy on uneven terrain. If the grass is even barely wet, one wheel drive spins on the slightest hill. Personal Pace is an absolute must-have on a mower for me.
My 80volt Greenworks has a very annoying lag before the drive engages. It is smooth when it finally engages but when you reverse direction you soon learn to anticipate the lag and begin the engagement half way through your turn. Otherwise it is a great machine and I really enjoy cutting the lawn with an electric mower.
The electronic mower mechanical bull ride was hilarious
I just picked up a Toro #21564 Super Recycler, 190CC. Yet to mow, should be this weekend. Sounds like a boss though, push button start. I just wish they made this with spin-stop feature instead of electric start. Useful for when bagging. I usually mulch most of the year and keep 3.5 - 4" HOC.
I just mowed with my new 2022 Super Recycler 21564 even though it's 40 degrees in northwest Indiana I was able to enjoy the mow you will love you mower too.
Great job!!!
Nice review. Try Ryan’s trick of adjusting front and rear wheels at different heights to get middle adjustment too. Lol 😆
I purchased the original version last year. 60Volt, 7.5ah battery just like your. Biggest wast of money I ever spent. I cut my Tall Fescue at 4 inches. This unit could not do the job. The grass is very think and the self propelled function absolutely sucked........wound up pushing it 80% of the time. Also the cut was the worst cut of any mower I ever owned. Stragglers all over the lawn. One day I cut it three times in all different directions and it still had uneven grass. Just absolutely terrible. I took it in for service and they said nothing was wrong with the unit. We then called Toro their advice was to cut the grass lower to help improve suction. One, its tall fescue, you don't cut it lower in the heat of the summer......it won't survive. two, if you cut lower, the self propelled function would struggle even more. I went out and purchased a Hustler Dash. It does a great job on my quarter acre lawn. The Toro sits in the garage.....not getting used.
That performance mode is needed for leaves and debris(I know it speeds up with load, but you want it fast before it hits leaves). Toro did that right. I put 2 blades on my Ego to trick it into high mode all the time. Why not a single height adjust, handle adjust, move without blade, or proper mulch plug. Too expensive when other brands include it.
Been waiting on this. I'd like to see a comparison of the battery Recycler (Gilley) vs the Super. I one year old gas Super Recycler and thinking about moving to battery. "There ain't nothing economy about what I do." Epic.
Woo woo hey oh Allyn!!
I used my buddy’s Milwaukee and it cuts nicer than my gas Toro SR. I also have all Milwaukee power tools which is a big advantage. The build quality of the Milwaukee is second to none. The price is up there as well though.
That herky jerky forward movement is also bad on my Ryobi crosscut. My Toro gas powered (god rest it’s soul) used to be a breeze to cut around my circular planters in the yard, but good luck with the all or nothing throttle on these new battery mowers. The smooth acceleration for a battery mower is pretty much unheard of, and nearly tempting enough to sell mine to get the Toro. Great review!
YOU DID GOOD MAN, THANKS
So if you had to choose from the 60v vortex recycler or the 60v super recycler which in your opinion is better? Is there anything difference between them?
I still haven't been able to get the mulch plug out of mine (same mower). The EGO self-propel starts slow and ramps up, but it is too slow and just as annoying as full-start drive systems. The nicest thing about the Toro drive system is you can start fast or slow and go at 'your' pace then slow down if there is a section of heavy grass...all without reaching for another lever that is impossible to control while the mower is bouncing around. Also, I like the individual height adjustements because you can raise the front only if the grass is a little higher than normal and it acts like a dual blade system by cutting off some of the grass blade when the (higher) front of mower passes over and then cutting more off when the rear (which is lower than the front) cuts more off. Good review! I still think the handle can use an even lower position.
Thanks just bought a super recycler vortex gas and I am a smidge shorter than yourself and was wanting to lower the height! Though after reading the manual I did not see the images you showed so maybe something toro needs to add.
I purchased mine in 2021, same model number. My mulch plug and the handle are a little different. My first cut with the economy blade and dry grass, I "just' made it on one battery, almost 1.25 hours! But it was downhill after that and like you I did prefer the performance blade. I noticed that mulching takes more battery than either bagging or rear discharge (messy, but works). I purchased a second battery (ouch!) and all of last season I was able to get it done on with the two batteries. Not any more, I think there has been some degradation on the batteries. I am shy by about 5 minutes from finishing! I guess I will be purchasing a 3rd battery, trying to not run them down so far to help with battery life. I noticed that the battery doesn't quite fill the opening, I was hoping they would come out with an even higher capacity battery, but that may not happen.
For the mulch plug, you always have to push in that little dip in the center, and it’s easier if you do so from a lower angle (crouched) with your fingers holding the inside of the mulch plug from the top for better grip. It gets easier the more you do it.
I just press the tab with one finger and it pops out
I have been cutting my dad's lawn with a standard Toro 60v and have been pretty satisfied. It doesn't mulch the greatest on the first pass though. Did you find the mulching capability to be on par with gas or closer to other battery powered mowers? Wondering if it is worth the price to upgrade.
I've had mine for about 8 cuts now and I would say the mulching is where this mower really stands out
Not sure if it works for the Toro but on my electic lawn mower, you can activate the self propeller by holding down the lever and pushing it forward even when the mower is off
Review the Milwaukee M18 mower when you can. That thing looks amazing, specs wise.
A side by side with toro VS m18 would be nice. I just got the m18, so far so good. The thumb paddles are kinda stupid, but come in really handy at the end of a run where you're tight to something, you can stand to the side and just blip the thumb bar and get it to move so you can then stand behind it again.
M18 seems cool but holy crap is it expensive. I’m deep in the M18 line already and that one is a bit far.
He probably doesn’t want to part with $1,000 to get the thing, though. 😖
No one does a more well thought out and entertaining review than you Allyn. But the only way I am using an electric mower is if big brother takes away my ability to use my gas one.
Exactly! I'll never cave into the electric hype! It's like buying a over price electric car for 50,60,70K and only being able to drive 350-400 miles top! As the phrase goes, "Are You Kidding Me!" Sorry Allen. Gas all the way! No disrespect. Love your videos, helpful information and comical satire. Believe me. I get it! I'm not got though! Good job on always providing informative product videos. Love ya man!
ha ha! thanks! I actually like having both. I do prefer gas but at 8AM or 8PM the battery is certainly a nice alternative.
@@eddylee587 it's not hype. It's happening. It's better for the environment. Plus you can recycle batteries. Gas you cannot.
Ihave battery for all of my tools...but for lawnmowers I prefer gas. I have a toro timemaster. For me it would be difficult to use battery for a mower. Blowers and weed whackers work well for batteries.
Enjoy the mow!
Thanks Mr Allyn! How about also doing the new Milwaukee and EGO XP Model!!?!?
To overcome the “jerkiness” you manually push the mower a hair while the electric drive kicks in similar to what you’re doing with the Toro. The action is different but the concept is the same. You’re pushing forward, manually moving the mower while the self propel feature is kicking in. 🤷♂️
Yes I agree but I prefer a more "leisurely" mow rather than an "active" one where I have to be involved that much. I tried to illustrate it on video by exaggerating a bit but it's for sure something I can feel the difference and I don't like it much. 💁
@@Thelawncarenut I know exactly what you’re talking about. It was an issue for me when I switched to my first EGO MOWER. But since I’ve upgraded to the latest Ego Select Cut, recognized the issue and adjusted my technique
@@Thelawncarenut the personal pace Toro has spoiled me, I can't stand any of the thumb activated self propel systems now. I had a Honda, blew the drive shaft running over a pipe years ago and went with a Toro Recycler due to your videos back in 2014-15. I ordered a Milwaukee mower a few weeks ago and used it for a few cuts, returned that one too. I can't get away from that personal pace, it makes mowing a lot more enjoyable.
@@FIUPanther305 dewalt good mower?
Nice overview!
After dealing with a couple of bad gas powered mowers I caught a Kobalt 80v on model clearance for less than 1/2 price. I don't miss dealing with getting gas and hoping the damn thing will start. It cuts pretty good. The run time is about 30 minutes on a battery.
The Toro I had was built with a lot of plastic crap that constantly broke and that personal pace handle broke on mine. I didn't use mine 2 seasons before I gave it to goodwill.
Super helpful video.
thank you!
how do you adjust the personal pace? I have exact same model only gas version. thanks for the video could not figure out how to adjust handle height until I saw your video
I've got last year's version. Some differences like that mulch plug and max speed setting. I couldn't move my previous gas mowers without the blade spinning either.
I can't believe that mulch plug... Really Toro? You're better than that! The handel looks a little goofy. I do like the aluminum deck. I would like to pull the trigger on a battery mower but I don't think they're at the point of replacing gas mowers yet. That performance blade will most likely lessen the run time on a battery. Think I'll stick with my 10 year old Super Recycler for now. FYI the Personal Pace transmission is driven by a belt connected to the shaft that spins the blade. Same as the gas version. That's why it has to be running for it to work. I do like the fact they built the electric motor to fit on the existing mower deck. Not building the mower around the electric motor. As always thanks for the great video. I was waiting for the " GOAT of lawn care" to review this mower.
Ya I’am a mowing guy and the ego is a total beast and TWO BLADES are better than one and it packs away fast .
Most dedicated cordless mowers have electric gearbox like the greenworks. That’s why it can drive without having the blade going.
Where toros and others with a normal gearbox need the blade spinning as the crank from the motor spins the belts like petrol.