ANDRIY!!! ATTENTION! haha I’m reposting this hoping you’ll see it, it’s a comment I made about this on your Metallica Easter eggs video regarding this thing!! ANDRIY!!!! I hope you read these comments!!! I can absolutely confirm the mystery guitar part on Orion! First of all 28 years ago, I bought that tab book, I was always able to hear that part with headphones, but it really came to my attention when I did an acoustic cover of Orion in 2006 - Basically I ended up, figuring it out exactly the way you are playing it in this video (The exact variation that you play in this video, not the other variations that are in your Orion video, which I’m going to post this comment there to increase the chances of you seeing this LOL) so here it is - I was working download festival And I was there for the sound check And to cut a long story short after they had blasted through a song from hardwired (I forget which one) Someone on the board said something about the clean guitar and James patch switched And just when he started messing around, finger picking something, robs guitar tech started to play the Orion middle section part - not unusual …HOWEVER for about less than 10 seconds James played THAT part with his clean tone! I was FOH and my head span so quick to see it I nearly give myself whiplash (no pun intended) I couldn’t see for long enough but I heard those exact notes And I could see his hand was in the same position on the neck, He called my attention quickly because I had been messing around with pretty much all of the same variations that you were doing. When I was recording it, and I settled on exactly the same thing you are playing and basically just like me you have over thought it on the very first thing you thought it was… It was. It’s 100% the way you’re playing it, I heard it isolated, saw the neck position, heard it from James himself albeit for seconds, but it was there! He just gave the tech a smile, and then stopped playing it - This is one of those things that I never thought anyone apart from me would give a shit about, but just like you, I have had that thing for most of my life about playing the songs as accurately as possible and it’s always been an annoying mystery to me how difficult some of the songs are to get the actual correct notes figure it out - Anyway, I really hope you see this and you can put a line under this one finally ha ha. Any questions or anything like that you may have you can hit me up broski! Cheers 🍻
Hey! That’s awesome, thank you so much for sharing. And I almost forgot I had made this video 😆 Funny how, despite the fact that we have (most of) the stems, Orion still keeps giving. Once again, thanks for sharing and taking time to write in detail. Maybe we finally get to making a big Orion breakdown in the future. Cheers!
Banjo player James is the scariest version of him. You can see him playing it on “A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica” documentary. James even had his Lynyrd Skynyrd fashion phase in 1991 too.
It’s very odd that kirk and James’ riff and solo tapes can be found virtually anywhere but all cliff’s tapes disappeared. He practiced for a third of his day and supposedly nothing was recorded to listen back on? I hope some come up one day, I bet there were a lot of good unused ideas.
He came in the studio, when James, Lars and Kirk recorded their parts (of MOP) and returned to America. He recorded his bass after other instrumets, so probably because of that we dont have any of his tapes at this moment(
@@AndriyVasylenko There's also a chance that Kirk recorded some demo basses as it's known that he plays bass too, on known demos bass is player either by then-current bass players or James, but it's because some demos were recorded by James and Lars without the rest, however If Orion demo was recorded with Kirk and without Cliff, then there's a chance that Kirk played demo bass.
I used to work at a record store. The owner was an old concert promoter. He told stories of booking shows for metallica with cliff AND dave in the band still. And also post dave!!
@@eduardomirandaneto or rank Slayer albums? I loved the Megadeth one and I'm a huge fan of both Slayer and your channel, and would like to hear your opinion on the lesser-known albums, but just a thought. lol
The question you asked on the first part, it is the only question that can explain the situation but it is a question that needs to be answered. You would be a great philosopher 👌🏻
I think "that basspart" wich starts somewhere arround 3:30 or 3:50 is my favourite part of all music i've ever heard. Since i heard it the first time i never struggeld again about the question, if Cliff was a human or an epic heroe .
Well! Look what we have here.... I stumbled onto this and decided to check it out. And here's a guy who's very passionate about one of my favorite Metallica tracks disecting the damn thing. New sub, great job
The first Metallica song that i ever listened was Orion. And i loved it from the very beginning. I took it upon myself to introduce this song to my friends. Welcome them to your channel. Keep the good work and take care \\m//
3:45 this reminds me that the song Harvester of Sorrow had the chorus changed before being released. In the rough mix version, James sings "Havester of Sorrows" with an "S" instead of "Sorrowoah" like he does in the release version.
The parts of orion you mention that the tapes are "missing" is my favorite part something "floaty" about it lol And made myself like the ring so much i'm gonna buy it anyway, thanks for the discount 🤘
I've always heard this part on the album and I always found it odd that the Live Shit footage was one of the only places to catch a real representation of it. Very cool video as usual Andriy
Like someone else mentioned in these comments, I usually watch first 2-3 minutes and then stop understanding what's going on, losing the agenda of the video. But that's not because you share information in inconvenient way (Your English is fluent, i think, and you discuss all the stuff in really simple and understandable way); it's about me and literally losing my mind because of some really crazy, outstanding things that you show to us. Now that's what i call "frayed ends of sanity". I always need to watch video 2 or even 3 times to realize and think over all the mind-blowing ideas and facts that you continue to share with us. Короче, я восхищаюсь твоей работой и желаю тебе всего наилучшего, как бы ни повернулась жизнь! \oo/
Why no mention of Orion starting out as a interlude part for welcome home Sanitarium. As stated by Kirk in his recent video on Gibson TV icons? That may explain why Orion's composition is the way it is. And why parts were added, subtracted and may be misplaced during recording.
I only started to hear this riff after Jason played Orion with a pattern similar to this one, then picked up the similarity while listening to Orion's studio version. It's insane even after 10+ years of listening to this band I discover shit that has only been a mistery because of really stiff mixing and lack of tabs.
I mentioned that in a comment before! I thought it was a piano at first. You can also hear the variation played by Cliff when Orion was still attached to Sanitarium.
Such a beautiful part..! To think that these young guys composed such a great tune and album at that age.. Remember hearing this song on Danny Ways skateboard part from the DC movie. It goes perfectly to that, you should check it out 🙂
Honestly even just the 3 part harmony is mysterious. Its so crunchy that its hard to tell exactly what the lowest part plays, James and Kirk do it a lil different each time live
I picked upon that way back when I first got into Metallica between Justice and Black. I always thought it sounded kind of like a toy piano, and I'd point it out to my friends and none of them could hear it and I eventually thought I was just hearing shit. But there it is. Thank you, frrrrrriend!
They played that riff in the 1993 Orion/to live is to die/call of ktulu. I believe the one in sweden where it starts with Jason finishing his solo by smashing his head on his bass
I'm curious why the snare on MOP in the multitrack sounds so different, it might've been changed when the songs were eq'd a lot in mastering, but in the rough mix, it's the way it is (or at least more like) on the mastered version, anyone else know what I mean?
Как же я люблю твоё славняское произношение. Очень комфортно тебя слушать. Также очень интересно смотреть контент о своей любимой группе. Спасибо тебе!
I think the keyboard is in there, when you played It I just kind of thought, I have always heard it, maybe not knowing what it was but I heard it, as you say I think it bleeds in the bass guitar sound too.
That harmonic part sounds like it used almost identical harmonics to those used in the intro to South Of Heaven by Slayer. Sounds like B, E harmonics over the 12th fret followed by a 5th fret E harmonic with a volume knob dip and swell.
Right in the middle of the video I stopped and thought, what if Cliff played a Dean Metal man Or any bass in a pointy shape that doesn’t belong for a bass. What’s your opinion?
I think Orion wasn't ment to be instrumental. On Metallica's demo tapes from 85 Sanitarium and Orion were one song called Only thing. It was whole Sanitarium an interlude from Orion and it was played from interlude to the end. Ps: love your chanel man, greetings from Croatia.
That's because by the time "only Thing" demo was recorded the band had forced Cliff to make Orion a whole band song and struggled to find a place for it. Cliff's Orion is actually just the middle interlude into a roaring bass solo to the end
Also they’re only good song. James shitty voice isn’t on it. Dave Mustaine should’ve kicked James out and been the lead singer for Metallica since not only is he a better guitarist but also singer.
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ANDRIY!!! ATTENTION! haha I’m reposting this hoping you’ll see it, it’s a comment I made about this on your Metallica Easter eggs video regarding this thing!!
ANDRIY!!!! I hope you read these comments!!! I can absolutely confirm the mystery guitar part on Orion! First of all 28 years ago, I bought that tab book, I was always able to hear that part with headphones, but it really came to my attention when I did an acoustic cover of Orion in 2006 - Basically I ended up, figuring it out exactly the way you are playing it in this video (The exact variation that you play in this video, not the other variations that are in your Orion video, which I’m going to post this comment there to increase the chances of you seeing this LOL) so here it is - I was working download festival And I was there for the sound check And to cut a long story short after they had blasted through a song from hardwired (I forget which one) Someone on the board said something about the clean guitar and James patch switched And just when he started messing around, finger picking something, robs guitar tech started to play the Orion middle section part - not unusual …HOWEVER for about less than 10 seconds James played THAT part with his clean tone! I was FOH and my head span so quick to see it I nearly give myself whiplash (no pun intended) I couldn’t see for long enough but I heard those exact notes And I could see his hand was in the same position on the neck, He called my attention quickly because I had been messing around with pretty much all of the same variations that you were doing. When I was recording it, and I settled on exactly the same thing you are playing and basically just like me you have over thought it on the very first thing you thought it was… It was. It’s 100% the way you’re playing it, I heard it isolated, saw the neck position, heard it from James himself albeit for seconds, but it was there! He just gave the tech a smile, and then stopped playing it - This is one of those things that I never thought anyone apart from me would give a shit about, but just like you, I have had that thing for most of my life about playing the songs as accurately as possible and it’s always been an annoying mystery to me how difficult some of the songs are to get the actual correct notes figure it out - Anyway, I really hope you see this and you can put a line under this one finally ha ha. Any questions or anything like that you may have you can hit me up broski! Cheers 🍻
Hey! That’s awesome, thank you so much for sharing. And I almost forgot I had made this video 😆 Funny how, despite the fact that we have (most of) the stems, Orion still keeps giving. Once again, thanks for sharing and taking time to write in detail. Maybe we finally get to making a big Orion breakdown in the future. Cheers!
So that’s where Jason got his version of Orion’s interlude from!!
I should ask him that ne day
Yeahhh
@@AndriyVasylenko That part must have been played by James. 03:16 a hidden easter egg. Not included on the albums song.
@@AndriyVasylenko first appear of that version of riff was in sanitarium-orion interlude demo 1985
@@AndriyVasylenko энд ссори фор май инглиш
It’s crazy how we can be analyzing the same songs for decades and still find something new
I'm almost afraid to start analyzing Orion's harmony. Because there must be too many crazy nuances
@@AndriyVasylenko but what if we want to know every single nuance?
@@AndriyVasylenko Can't wait for that video!
@@nathangaspar4989 That would be preferred :P
Yeah, In case you haven’t already listen to Metallica then Megadeth back to back catalog to catalog it’s amazing How they riff off from each other.
Name: Andriy Vasylenko
Job: Professor of Metallica..
*soon to be retired
(but not before interviewing them all)
@@AndriyVasylenko Jesus Andriy you don't have to keep reminding us
Andriy : im a teacher
Me what do you teach ?
Andriy :Metallica
@@AndriyVasylenko so, is Metallica retiring soon?
bruh
2:58 uploaded "11 years ago"... jesus has it really been that long?!
you're a legend for uploading all this stuff...
we owe you so much man
Looks like it.
Damn are you like 50 now doing youtube for 14 years
Cliff giving Lars a “what are you waiting for?” gesture is my favorite lol.
Therapist: don't worry bass player James can't hurt you he's not real
Bass player James: 9:43
I read it as ”James isn’t real, he can’t hurt you”
@@onunices69yearsago43 I read it the same way
He played Bass on hit the lights on the compilation album they did
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Banjo player James is the scariest version of him. You can see him playing it on “A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica” documentary.
James even had his Lynyrd Skynyrd fashion phase in 1991 too.
It’s very odd that kirk and James’ riff and solo tapes can be found virtually anywhere but all cliff’s tapes disappeared. He practiced for a third of his day and supposedly nothing was recorded to listen back on? I hope some come up one day, I bet there were a lot of good unused ideas.
He came in the studio, when James, Lars and Kirk recorded their parts (of MOP) and returned to America. He recorded his bass after other instrumets, so probably because of that we dont have any of his tapes at this moment(
9:43 That's literally the first time i've ever seen James hold a bass.
literally the only picture of him with bass. Other than that video where he plays acoustic bass
@@AndriyVasylenko ruclips.net/video/iN42uzNFVmQ/видео.html
@@AndriyVasylenko There's also a chance that Kirk recorded some demo basses as it's known that he plays bass too, on known demos bass is player either by then-current bass players or James, but it's because some demos were recorded by James and Lars without the rest, however If Orion demo was recorded with Kirk and without Cliff, then there's a chance that Kirk played demo bass.
He played bass on the demo for Devil's Dance (most notably imo)
The amount of devotion you show to find every piece of metallica's history is astounding
it's just how my brain works, but I'm really glad you all find it interesting too )
Learn and see something new every episode man!
Last time I was this early, Dave was still in Metallica..
Last time I was this early, James was still in Leather Charm
I used to work at a record store. The owner was an old concert promoter. He told stories of booking shows for metallica with cliff AND dave in the band still. And also post dave!!
Kerry King was still in Megadeth
Cliff Burton was and is one of the greatest bass players ever.
Couldn't put triple like to this comment
Is?
Imagine Orion live with Mustaine playing the third guitar
John Marshall.
Timecode for musical heaven: 10:26-10:53
I remember you in the begging when you have like 1.500 subs or less and watching you so expressive it's really cool
It must be the late 2015 - early 2016. Thanks for dedication! \m/
He begged? For what?
@MonoChronicle I really wish people would be more careful with their writing.
Hi friend!!!
From telegang here
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New message notification sound
Hey Mike from Art.. Hi Andriy.
Sorry for unhearting your comment. I need to keep pretending that's just a slip of the tongue.
Edit: Oh blyat...
0:13 - Were you about to say "Hey, everybody, it's Mike from The Art of Guitar"?
Finally, some good frigging content after a tough day. Thanks frrriend!
have a nice evening \m/
@@AndriyVasylenko Thanks!
Here's Orion isolated tracks, check 'em yourself t.me/AndriyVasylenko/29
_B A S S_
You can hear it in the bridge section of the song
How can i download it?
Can you make a video about Sepultura ? It will be great
@@eduardomirandaneto or rank Slayer albums? I loved the Megadeth one and I'm a huge fan of both Slayer and your channel, and would like to hear your opinion on the lesser-known albums, but just a thought. lol
Ooo how that ending with the three instruments sounds, it's beautiful.
Orion is their best song. Its an emotional roller coaster. One of the best compositions of music in Earths history
The question you asked on the first part, it is the only question that can explain the situation but it is a question that needs to be answered. You would be a great philosopher 👌🏻
the metallica's "the new song" riff was really great too and yet they didnt used it on any studio song :(
I love that riff, such a shame they never used it.
@@OroTheEnlightened its really bouncy and sounds great with the double bass
yeah, there's lots of riffs they didn't use. Got a whole playlist of those
@@AndriyVasylenko can we find this playlist somewhere?
@@AndriyVasylenko interesting.
Really nice analysis!
I think "that basspart" wich starts somewhere arround 3:30 or 3:50
is my favourite part of all music i've ever heard.
Since i heard it the first time i never struggeld again about the question, if Cliff was a human or an epic heroe .
Far and away my favorite song for the past 35 years. Thanks for this!
11:22 Yes,that's how you pronounce it :)
Now I know it's definitely you :)
gg
this has to be my favorite video you have uploded
Love that last guitar n bass bit at the end. Should make a recording of the interlude itself! That’s beautiful!!
Orion is my favorite metallica song and this is my favorite part. I didn’t even hear the guitar till I saw this. Thank you for opening my eyes to this
My pleasure 🤘
Well! Look what we have here....
I stumbled onto this and decided to check it out. And here's a guy who's very passionate about one of my favorite Metallica tracks disecting the damn thing. New sub, great job
The first Metallica song that i ever listened was Orion. And i loved it from the very beginning. I took it upon myself to introduce this song to my friends. Welcome them to your channel. Keep the good work and take care \\m//
I lowkey cried a bit the last arrangement was so eye opening
Record this 10:25 part please, it's awesome and breathtaking
The ending gave me goosebumps dude.. You are amazing \,,/
Love your channel keep up the great work METALLICAGEEK rules 🎸 🎸 🎸 on my friend,,!!!
Thanks for keeping Metallica magic alive. Very cool video.
It’s a good day when Frrrrrrrrrriend Andriy uploads
Listen to Welcome Home (Sanitarium) - Late June 1985 demo, after 6:30 Cliff is playing this riff for a few seconds.
4:19 wow, I’ve never seen this picture before. Thanks for this new lil Jem, friend.
found it by googling "james hetfield young"
And he play with dimebag darrell on that photo
Great work as always Andriy!
3:45 this reminds me that the song Harvester of Sorrow had the chorus changed before being released. In the rough mix version, James sings "Havester of Sorrows" with an "S" instead of "Sorrowoah" like he does in the release version.
The parts of orion you mention that the tapes are "missing" is my favorite part something "floaty" about it lol
And made myself like the ring so much i'm gonna buy it anyway, thanks for the discount 🤘
;-) \m/
Bro this video is really interesting and amazing... great work!
Great video as always
You got this one rite tho. I haven’t listened to Metallica or much or any rock music in years but I definitely remember this.
5:58
Ah yes, my favourite note
The *S#*
you are amazing! keep rocking
My favorite song. Not just from Metallica, just my favorite song.
Andriy, of course you can make mistakes, but I trust you more than Metallica when it comes to Metallica song knowledge. :D
He knows Metallica better than Metallica themselves
man its awsome ive learnt alot from you
Telegram gang! Love your channel. And also love you included the-art-of guitar's intro.
"Hey everybody it's Mik-" **questions existense**
10:39 I always thought that part of the song was from a keyboard or something, it sounds so beautiful
Is it just me or when i watch Andriy’s videos, I understand the first 2 minutes, and then just forget what he’s talking about
I understood only the first half of your comment
@@AndriyVasylenko I don’t understand the entirety of that comment
So true. We Slavs have the worst accent. Hard to listen for long. Andriy pulls it off by charm.
dude especially this vid..i totally got lost of what he was talkn about in detail
you dont understand how i enjoy these kind of videos :)
Maaaaaaate! That acoustic bit at the end sounded...
Fucking Beautiful.
I've always heard this part on the album and I always found it odd that the Live Shit footage was one of the only places to catch a real representation of it. Very cool video as usual Andriy
Like someone else mentioned in these comments, I usually watch first 2-3 minutes and then stop understanding what's going on, losing the agenda of the video. But that's not because you share information in inconvenient way (Your English is fluent, i think, and you discuss all the stuff in really simple and understandable way); it's about me and literally losing my mind because of some really crazy, outstanding things that you show to us. Now that's what i call "frayed ends of sanity". I always need to watch video 2 or even 3 times to realize and think over all the mind-blowing ideas and facts that you continue to share with us. Короче, я восхищаюсь твоей работой и желаю тебе всего наилучшего, как бы ни повернулась жизнь! \oo/
Andrily i will go to a METALLICA concert!!! (Re agended) Thank you for helping me to be a mega fan of metallica!!! Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱
Great, really glad for you )) Greetings \m/
:)))
Why no mention of Orion starting out as a interlude part for welcome home Sanitarium. As stated by Kirk in his recent video on Gibson TV icons? That may explain why Orion's composition is the way it is. And why parts were added, subtracted and may be misplaced during recording.
I only started to hear this riff after Jason played Orion with a pattern similar to this one, then picked up the similarity while listening to Orion's studio version. It's insane even after 10+ years of listening to this band I discover shit that has only been a mistery because of really stiff mixing and lack of tabs.
I Really enjoyed your acoustic rendition at the end. 🤘🏻
I appreciate it)) a little bonus for those who watch fully
I always wanted to play the bass part from the interlude on guitar,until I get a Bass guitar myself, and now I have tabs! Thanks, friend!
Omg, you are so awesome man, the only guy that talks about things like that!!! I've always thought that this sound was a kind of tiny bell kkkkkkk
1:45 tool - pushit (salival version)
They played it in Slane Ireland when I seen them last year, that gig is up on RUclips and worth watching
I mentioned that in a comment before! I thought it was a piano at first. You can also hear the variation played by Cliff when Orion was still attached to Sanitarium.
Such a beautiful part..! To think that these young guys composed such a great tune and album at that age..
Remember hearing this song on Danny Ways skateboard part from the DC movie. It goes perfectly to that, you should check it out 🙂
Hi frrriend. I'm probably your unique sub from Quebec who talks french. And i'm proud of it!
3:10 nice transition
Wow
Yet another video from favorite focking band!
9:48 I need to listen to that rough mix now. Pretty cool
that is so cool i barely noticed that whenever i check the red bar from the video the little cliff s fist goes up and down
Hi, it’s still more fans more wishes than you thought, thank you for everything ；you did.
Dr. Andriy Vasylenko
My favorite song of all time. Feel like it's part of me. Like it's a heart beat or brainwaves.
Honestly even just the 3 part harmony is mysterious. Its so crunchy that its hard to tell exactly what the lowest part plays, James and Kirk do it a lil different each time live
I picked upon that way back when I first got into Metallica between Justice and Black. I always thought it sounded kind of like a toy piano, and I'd point it out to my friends and none of them could hear it and I eventually thought I was just hearing shit. But there it is. Thank you, frrrrrriend!
What if cliff wrote and recorded that mystery riff. And somehow Kirk and James couldn’t play it live at all😂😂
hello, greetings from Mexico, good videos brother
They played that riff in the 1993 Orion/to live is to die/call of ktulu. I believe the one in sweden where it starts with Jason finishing his solo by smashing his head on his bass
I'm curious why the snare on MOP in the multitrack sounds so different, it might've been changed when the songs were eq'd a lot in mastering, but in the rough mix, it's the way it is (or at least more like) on the mastered version, anyone else know what I mean?
I hope you can make a video about "The Memory Remains" :)
There's a couple details in it.
Ah cmon, don't be THAT guy...
2:14 those stems are from Rock Band and Guitar Hero! Wow, I never knew people were able to use them
You are a God Andriy
please bring back the good ol' electric Ibanez bass, i would love to see that one more time before you start going dark.
Dude, you're the coolest Metallica geek on the internet at least. By the way, you should ask all this to the band! That would be crazy! Keep it up!
I've never clicked on an RUclips notification faster
4:15 is that Dimebag's Dean ML that James is playing with?
Ml existed before dimebag
Как же я люблю твоё славняское произношение. Очень комфортно тебя слушать. Также очень интересно смотреть контент о своей любимой группе. Спасибо тебе!
I think the keyboard is in there, when you played It I just kind of thought, I have always heard it, maybe not knowing what it was but I heard it, as you say I think it bleeds in the bass guitar sound too.
Amazing video frrrriend
Please, lets talk about intro from "to live to die"!
That harmonic part sounds like it used almost identical harmonics to those used in the intro to South Of Heaven by Slayer. Sounds like B, E harmonics over the 12th fret followed by a 5th fret E harmonic with a volume knob dip and swell.
Oh, you like Metallica and SLAYER?!
Right in the middle of the video I stopped and thought, what if Cliff played a Dean Metal man
Or any bass in a pointy shape that doesn’t belong for a bass.
What’s your opinion?
I think Orion wasn't ment to be instrumental. On Metallica's demo tapes from 85 Sanitarium and Orion were one song called Only thing. It was whole Sanitarium an interlude from Orion and it was played from interlude to the end.
Ps: love your chanel man, greetings from Croatia.
That's because by the time "only Thing" demo was recorded the band had forced Cliff to make Orion a whole band song and struggled to find a place for it. Cliff's Orion is actually just the middle interlude into a roaring bass solo to the end
I feel like band would probably answer a lot of these questions with a "don't remember" as well ;)
Lars has a sharp memory but still.. lol
Orion was actually the third ever song by Metallica I ever listened to on December 26th, 2019
ok
Oh dude you are not doing the album right it should be 7th...try again dammit
Also they’re only good song. James shitty voice isn’t on it. Dave Mustaine should’ve kicked James out and been the lead singer for Metallica since not only is he a better guitarist but also singer.
@@H.E.M. shut the fuck up Jesus Christ
Ok