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THE UNFORGIVEN: Metallica's Trilogy
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The Unforgiven got me into Metallica. Today we're discussing what makes each of the songs legendary, and why James Hetfield turned it into a trilogy.
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0:00 Intrrro
0:30 Unforgiven's backstory
1:54 Why making part 2?
2:57 Why making part 3?
4:48 Connection between all the parts
5:52 My confession...
6:43 The Unforgiven (1)
8:12 They play it "wrong" now (and it "hurts" me)
9:56 "Anti-chorus" as Metallica's invention (sort of)
10:45 The Unforgiven 2 - Worst part?
13:31 The Unforgiven 3 - Best part?
15:12 Most underrated Metallica riff
17:11 Uh yeah.. Solos
18:00 So, which Unforgiven is legit best?
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make a vid on Death magnetic or Anthrax
Can't wait for the new album!! 😊😊
Hopefully Kirk won't lose his phone this time
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Each song has its phase in (un)forgiveness
UN1: Not being able to forgive others
UN2: Others not being able to forgive you
UN3: Not being able to forgive yourself
I thought there would be nothing else to add and that it was full circle, but then I thought an hypothetical “UN4given” would be about blaming others for your actions or viceversa.
That's a great interpretation
The "Un4guiven" would be about him forguiving those people and himself
It should be ForgIVen
@@NoRemorses I've always though the same thing
@@NoRemorsesThe 4gIVen
Who else is excited for the upcoming album?
Yeah, hopefully it comes out next year or late this year.
Yeah, I'm very excited for new -Megadeth- album
Yeah, I can’t wait
Every fan
Wait, have they announced working on it?
0:03 shut up don't crush my dreams, I'm still expecting a "Un4gIVen" in the next album
You've had that words for years, waiting.. Didn't you? Perfect.
@@mrbluepie since the release of HTSD at least, because follow my thought:
black album: unf. 1
load: NO unf
reload: unf. 2
st. anger: NO unf
magnetic: unf. 3
HTSD: NO unf
next album: unf. 4 hopefully
I want the new album to be a mix between all the first 5 albums. The color scheme should be blue and red.
Unvaginen
The unforgiven four finally forgiven
Analyzing Four Horseman
I noticed that guitar colors (White V, Red Rickenbacker, Black V) are the same as the four horsemens Testament looks
The white horse - James (White Flying V)
The red horse - Cliff (Red Rickenbacker)
The black horse - Kirk (Black Flying V)
The pale horse - Lars (Drums)
Interesting, I hadn't noticed. Good pickup
it's also the colour scheme of the kill em all album cover
@@ratsalad178 wow
My favourite part of each one:
1, THAT SOLO.
2, The outro with all the callbacks to the first one.
3, James' climbing vocals in the 'forgive me forgive me not' section.
Great video frrrriend! I didn't know that Kirk wrote the heavy riff to Unforgiven! I'm also curious as to why he's credited on the 2nd one now!
\m/
What if Kirk wrote the arpeg-
Yeah, but that arpegio still is on the same chords that James wrote Unforgiven. So idk
@@AndriyVasylenko It's a mystery!
@@aidanhickey9845 my mission is to interview Metallica and ask them about ALL the riffs that Kirk wrote
@@AndriyVasylenko I'd be very interested in that too! I hope one day you can accomplish that! Although the riff tapes in upcoming box sets could hopefully shine a light on that! (Minus St. Anger of course).
The load records are the most interesting imo, because songs like 'Slither' and 'Thorn Within' only really have one riff in them. So what did Kirk do? Maybe he wrote the only riff in those songs and James just gets credited for writing the lyrics? So many possibilities! But who knows?
@@aidanhickey9845 Load Reload songwriting credits are weird. And for some reason, they didn't include any of Kirk's riff tapes on Justice reissue. Even though it's full of his riffs
Black-unforgiven
Load- -
Reload-unforgiven II
St. anger- -
DM-Unforgiven 3
Hardwired- -
New album-Unforgiven IV
Un4given
Aha Türk :)
@@ComradePilas unforgIVn
Or IVgiven
Un4gIVen
I watched the entire sponsorship part because of that opener
10/10 for the whole thing
Hey, when are you planning to return to Lars' head??
@@rockaddict3744 Neverrrr!
(Fire, to begin whipping the dance of the dead)
@@larsswig912 Baldened, is the end!!
Lars's Wig you got to man or he won’t be able to do the next Metallica Monday’s lol 😂
Am I the only one whose favorite unforgiven is the 2nd one?? I love its story and its vibe. and James' voice was almost at its peak (fully reached that peak in 1999)
The Unforgiven II is my favourite!
2 is my favourite also
Concur
It's my least favorite of the 3 but it's still good and one of the only 2 good songs on Reload with along with Fuel
Unforgiven 2 is def the favorite imo
James Hetfield :plays the riff correctly and beatifully
Kirk (drunk and probably high) :*police siren noises*
I want a fourth song simply because “The UnforgIVen” is too clever to never be used
The UnfourgIVen 4
@@aerobolt256 the unFOURgIVen IV
@@kamuixero5019 the unIVgIVen IV
The Un4g4en 4
Ungabungiven
The Unforgiven III build up to the solo. That part is what got me real hooked on UN III. James' vocal build up leading into that solo is sheer brilliance and so powerful.
Totally agree. When Kirk hits that unison bend at the beginning of the solo it feels so earned, and comes as a massive release of emotion
Didn't someone say the best interpretation of the song saga was:
1. Growing up finding how everyone around you did you wrong, blaming then and dubbing them unforgiven.
2. Finding someone who genuinely was helpful and trustworthy (laying beside them) but you get delusional and decide that that one person is also untrustworthy, metaphorically killing them and leaving. Making them unforgiven too
3. Realising you were harsh on everyone you're left alone and are the sole unforgiven person
I was brought to tears the first time I heard Unforgiven III - “Forgive me - how can I forgive me?!”
Some powerful shit right there brother..
Some ones make a movie trilogy
Some others write a book trilogy
But...
Only some gods make a really epic song trilogy!
*The Un* forgiven I: The beginning.
*The Un* forgiven II: The perfect sequel.
*The Un* forgiven III: A perfect end.
*The Un* named Felling: That weird spin-off that nobody wants to talk about.
Wrong
unnamed feeling is a whole different song
I like the unnamed feeling more than all the unforgivens.
Fight me
tbh for me id put The Unforgiven II first then The Unnamed feeling and so on
@@sneezemachine I fucking love The Unnamed Feeling
I agree with James here, the build up to the solo makes Unforgiven III for me.
That is my favorite song from death magnetic
There isn’t a bad song on death magnetic in my opinion, I’ve enjoyed the album a lot ever since it came out in 08.
The mix is admittedly pretty bad but it’s not ‘hard’ to listen to by any means, I wish those people would give the music a chance. I hope they remaster the album soon.
The solo in Unforgiven 3 is in my top 5 favorite Metallica solos
@@Iheartdgd Broken, Beat, And Scarred isn't very good but other than that I agree with there not being any bad songs on the albums
The Un4given, given to you by the creators of Fant4stic
fantfourstic
Mike Warper now that’s 4nny
To end the Octology.... Unforgiven - Gr8ful to be forgiven?
For me: I > III > II
The first one is unbeatable but 3 comes close, I think if 3 was done on the Black Album it could have been the best, the Black Album sound is huge and James' voice is at it's best there and I think any song would benefit from having the Black album sound really. I don't dislike 2, actually I think it's a solid track and is one of the best of ReLoad but it doesnt come close to the other two for me.
the verse riff in unforgiven 3 gives me the chills every single time
Something I find quite interesting is that every time they made an unforgiven, they didn't make one for the next album but they made one for the one that followed. Unforgiven 1 on the black album, (no 2 on load), Unforgiven 2 on Reload, (no 3 on St. Anger), Unforgiven 3 on Death Magnetic. So going with that logic, The Unforgiven 4 will be on the next album since it wasn't on Hardwired :)
There is another. Each decade they make less studio albuns.
80's (4): KEA, RtL, MoP ...and Justice for All
90's (3): Black Album, Load and Reload
2000's (2): St. Anger and Death Magnetic
2010's (1): HtSD
So, 2020+ is going to be 0?!
@@Desc1233 shit, we are doomed
@@Desc1233 2020 promise to be a special decade. Metallica needs to record even more albums to balance all the bad shait that's happening
sorry, it was not
The Unnamed Feeling is The Unforgiven 2.5. Prove me wrong.
Very underrated song
Kind of I guess, but it doesn't have lyricism about forgiving someone like the unforgivens have, and is more a song about anxiety, depression, stress, basically what they, especially James, were going through at the time. (Not saying it's a bad song tho, I like it even more than the unforgivens)
They should make a 4th 'Unforgiven' and call it "4given"
ForgIVen
@@NoRemorses yeah, that's probably better.
Un4gIVen
@@Anonymousx7305 bit overboard.
No, if they make another one they should either name it The Unforgiven IV or Forgiven or something. Image how bad it would've been if they named The Unforgiven III "The Unforgiv3n" lol. How they named ManUNkind has me worried though lol
16:10 original “III” riff reminds me of “Now That We’re Dead” pre-chorus riff
LOL wait you said it like 30 seconds later
The Unforgiven III is so amazing. James’ singing is some of the best, atleast in newer times, and it goes so well with the amazing riffs and melodies. Love it so much.
I really like how the Unforgiven's III solo fits with the main riff being played in the background
"I nearly broke my fingers trying to play it"
Floyd Rose players: Is this some kind of peasant joke I'm too * Whammy bar noises * to understand?
"It's not the 3+1 formula, nor chu chu chu." - Vasylenko, Andriy. 2020.
Unforgiven is the one for me. The sound, the guitar parts, the vocals... that's the best version of James, that late 80's early 90's James was a god to me growing up. The Liveshit rendition is just amazing. Having said that, you did point out one major aspect, which is his soothing voice from the chorus. He did try to replicate it a bit in 2, but nowhere near as good.
Also the solo in Unforgiven is my favorite by miles. Granted its not a long, technical dragged out solo, its just what the song needed and Kirk was right to fight for it when everyone else in the studio hated it (watch the documentary to see that bit). Its the exact same feeling in To live is to die, with the slower solo.
Lastly, James mentioned in interviews how Unforgiven 3 brings the story full circle, so for those waiting for part 4, it may be bad news...
another great video Andriy, spasiba bolshoy! I can't believe you actually used "huy" as the promo code
I think maybe if they were to do an unforgiven 4 it would have to be completely different and be on their last album, such as idk the perspective of a child and their memories of their father (unforgiven 2 shows a man leaving his wife because she is unforgiven too and unforgiven 3 is after hes left) so maybe it can be the son forgiving his father for leaving which would mirror james personal life as his father left him at an early age, but that is just a concept
You guys convince me more and more that 4 is possible
@@AndriyVasylenko personally i dont think they need to but i mean cool concept if they did
10:28
В «Where The Wild Things Are» тоже жёсткие куплеты и мягкий припев.
Everyone, which “Unforgiven” is your personal favourite?
3
I think 3 just barely beats out the first one. Hbu?
Surprising, I like 2 but 3 is close behind
@@iqceo4276 Hm, interesting. I don't really hear people saying 2 as their favorite. For me, 2 is good, just not great like the other 2.
1 and 3
The last album I bought was St. Anger, and I haven't kept up with the more recent ones. I actually just found out today about the third song. I checked it out but was disappointed.
10:48 I know that gonna in this video but why i still laughing so hard?
*sorry for my bad english
Funny story: I used to work in the hostel picted 9:21 😂 WTF?!
Lol
Holy shit
@@AndriyVasylenko good thing's I could play nice music here and there. Dublin is good fun
@@alejandroriggi495 I found the picture by searching "college dormitory guitar" )))
@@AndriyVasylenko hahahaha makes sense because it was on 'College Street' good surprise thanks
16:34 Fun fact--to make it easier to sing and play guitar at the same time James will write the vocal line to have the same rhythm as the guitar part. For example: the chorus in "Wherever I May Roam", "Time Marches On" in Bellz matches the triplet 4th note chords, among others.
Unforgiven III is one of my favorite Metallica songs. Its the one I identify with most lyrically.
“These... won’t give you an extra inch ” lol
Megadeth have the perfect opportunity to write a song about Ellefson to make a Hanger trilogy...
“Hanger Under 18”
Lmaoooo
im so glad some one finally mentions the 2 and too pun
the unforgiven 2 hits more at my heart strings. i can relate to the lyrics more
Интересно узнать. Если бы у тебя был шанс отыграть с Металликой один концерт в качестве бас-гитариста, то какие песни ты бы хотел исполнить? (Учитывая правила составления сет-листов)
Только Андрей может использовать в качестве промокода слово huy!
Зєт ыз зе плэн ;)
@@AndriyVasylenko nahuy
9:13 Andriy is actually sad about the missing notes. you are not alone my friend
Awesome videos, Andriy! I love watching everything you make, and especially for 18 great minutes
Great video Frrrrrrrriend, I was one day too late unfortunately though. Have a great time!
10:48 I almost choked on my coffee
The Unforgiven 1 has one of my favorite solos. I love the scene showing it in the documentary
Бляха, промокод HUY, я чуть со смеху не помер, красава Андрей)
Thank you, HUY, for collaboration and making this video possible.
Ahh yes! The Unforgiven 3 verse riff, one of my favorites off of Death Magnetic
8:20 Just for fun, I actually looked up in what year did James stop finger-picking that riff and started doing the strumming version. I thought the year was going to be somewhere between the ReLoad-S&M era, but surprisingly he still played it with fingerpicking until 2006 (you can watch the live performances from Seoul and Berlin), and started strumming in 2007 (found a performance from a show in Lisbon).
Don't know why I did this but hey, ✨The More You Know🌈
The unforgiven 2 is the song who made me fall in love with metallica. The unforgiven 1 i think is the best out of all 3. The unforgiven 3 also an amazing song, especially the version on S&M2
I like the unforgiven iii. I was a bit disappointed that they didn't do a full band performance of it with the orchestra in S&M 2. It also has a great guitar solo. It's my favourite of the 3.
14:29 Andriy dancing to Hard Bass
I honestly love the way they interlock the main theme of “Can’t forgive...” in each song (Unforgiven 1: “Can’t forgive them”, Unforgiven 2: “Can’t forgive you”, Unforgiven 3: “Can’t forgive myself”), that was always one of the reasons why the song always stood out to me
Omg Adrian, you are my brother. Unforgiven was what got me into Metallica too!!!! 10seconds on the music news and next day I bought all Metallica albums and never looked back :-)\
I have many comments right now that I don’t know where to start !
First of all this has been of your greatest Videos ever, I loved how you analyzed the Riffs of the Unforgiven one and linked them to other amazing riffs, I found it amazing that you like the Unforgiven 3 as I believe it’s one of their most underrated songs.
On the other hand regarding Live vocals believe me it’s not easy to sing any of the Unforgivens so I trust James is just trying to make it easier for himself, and his additions are still awesome.
Great analysis andriy! Enjoyed the whole discussion and learned some new stuff i didn't know!
I feel like if any other Metallica song were to get a sequel it would be Sanitarium.
"My friend of misery" would give a good trilogy, but this will never happen, we know why.......
....Because he fooking left the band!
Welcome home (sanitarium)
Welcome home (morgue)
Welcome home (cementery)
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I'd definately love to see a breakdown of the stuff Jason erote while in Metallica (i.e. Blackened, My Friend of Misery, and Where the Wild Things Are; also his live bass jams for Misery and Wild Things are great, definately check them out, there are the full versions of what he wrote for those lines).
My favorite song of all time! Thanks Andriy \m/
The Unforgiven II was my 1st. Nice video, man. Thanks !
I know people have already said this but
Black: The Unforgiven
Load:
Reload: The Unforgiven II
St. Anger:
DM: The Unforgiven III
Hardwired:
New Album: The Unforgiven IV?
15:54
Damn didn’t even noticed the auto tune in song.
I expected this comment
If you don't know if the song is autotuned or not, try singing along. If your voice sounds awesome and harmonises with the original perfectly, it's autotuned. If you still sound like shit, it's not. Doesn't work if you're a good singer
You cannot hear it because of Lars loud drum
@@magdachlebicka3895 Knowing if the song was recorded before or after 1998 also helps.
@@magdachlebicka3895 sO aRe YoU teLLinG uS thAt wE aRe BAd siNgeRs?!!
This video is a masterpiece!! After classes I´m gonna finish watching it ;) Thanks for the good content, frrriend!
Hey Andriy, are you planning to make tabs for Wherever I May Roam? Last time i checked your site i didn’t see.
thanks for the in-depth vids
WHAT IF The Unnamed Feeling is The Unforgiven 2,5? this can be an interesting discussion topic
Did Kirk really write the riff in Unforgiven? That's awesome, really thought it was James
not only is unforgiven iii my favorite unforgiven, its also my favorite song ever
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I already mentioned in another one of your videos, but goddamn the vocal bridge and the solo of Unforgiven III hit me really, really hard. The build-up of "Forgive me / Forgive me not", with James seemingly pleading to someone, just for the last one revealing the "Why can't I", the extended "me" with his voice at the limit, and then Kirk comes in and punches your soul in the face with his solo. And does that solo sound to me like a person having a breakdown, just lashing out their anger, frustration and sadness at themselves, at what they have become.
With that said, I have to agree that The Unforgiven (I) is probably the best of the bunch, or at least the more "Metallica-y". But the lyrics of Unforgiven III, its theme, is the one that has sits closest to my heart; the representation of the maturation of the protagonist (be it James or not), now realising how blind had they been to the origin of their grievances, laying the blame on others when it was always within oneself, and how they struggle to make peace with themselves.
The clean riff Kirk plays on U3 is absolutely beautiful, one of my favourite clean riffs of all time.
huy promocode is the best part of the video!
I would love to hear. 4Given. The end of the saga where the story crescendos at a place of peace. I would also love for it to be a 14 epic with solos of every instrument, possibly even ending with just vocals...
The weird 'bend'that you replaced with a slide is probably performed on a 'B-Bender' telecaster. You pull the guitar down to activate a bend! Fascinating device! You can get G Benders too. 🤘🏼 love the channel. 🤘🏼
The B bender was also used for "Ronnie".
I would put more emphasys on the solo of UN3, is the most underated Kirk's solo
I feel like the next album won’t have the Un4gIVen but rather The Forgiven. It would be so cool to wrap it up
I always wanted Un4given to be 4given, like "Finally forgiven" part in the chorus
"And use my code: h u y "
THAT KILLED ME HAHAHAH
I noticed that since the black album, a chapter of the unforgiven is there on every two album (alternating), therefore I feel like expecting the 4th chapter next album
Now that's a sponsor I wouldn't skip. Haha
Unforgiven 3 is my favorite. And I was lucky enough to see it played live in 2018 Lincoln Nebraska. I hope we get a final Unforgiven 4 whenever Metallica does there last album.
Anyone else get really excited when they see andriy upload
Great breakdown. I like them all to varying degrees, but III is my favorite and II is my least favorite. The original has the best solo, and it’s one of Kirk’s highlights.
Your best video so far, i can say that it's the most waited video from me since the Unforgiven got me into Metallica as you.. Couldnt agree more with you about how bad they play The Unforgiven in their recent shows that it lost all of its beauty, i wish James still at least plays that small guitar riff before he start the song, Also u may want to check how James Played Unforgiven's 2 Riff in one of their Metallica's Mondays ( in Germany 2015, exactly before the part "lay beside me tell what i've done" ) i find much interesting, beautiful and touching? , keep up the good work Andriy!
2>1>3
For me The Unforgiven 2 is the best song Metallica have ever recorded. Fantastic lyrics, great music and the last chorus with "Cause you're unforgiven to!". It's just perfect.
Mamadisimo:) Comentario en Spanish Xd
The unforgiven 1 speak my whole life the one metallica song that brings to real tears everytime I listen to it
People always suprised when I tell that's my top #1 favorite metallica song and why I like them. I'm sure they expect me to say their more popular songs but it's actually songs like until it sleep and bleeding that speak to me the most
1 and 2 have a cowboy/ wild west vibe to the instrumentals, 3 has a more pirate/maritime feel.
I was there when they played Unforgiven 2 in 2015!
Definitely agree with you on the live version , I feel the same about Roam, I’ve watched the premier of those songs live and they were much closer to the album versions, but he never sang them the same way after that.
The only bad thing about this video is that we won't get an individual video with more details of the unforgivens
Unforgiven 3 is actually my favorite Metallica song. It’s the first Metallica song I remember listening too, so it’s always going to have a special place in my heart.
That’s not right. I remember reading an interview when reload came out about unforgiven 2. When load came out they released the songs that were already finished with the exception of unforgiven 2. Even though it was finished the didn’t want it to be on the album directly after the black album so they saved it for reload
No, no and no... I live, I die, and I lived again fornthe unforgiven II.... and its because of the strong but depressing/sad melody and ofc, the lyrics. Its actually one of my all time favotire songs of metallica 🙌🏻 great video, as always...
A Lurker! lol