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MASTER OF PUPPETS ☠ (and Metallica's BIGGEST MISTAKE recorded in studio)
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Few would argue that Master of Puppets is (at least one of) the best Metallica song. Master has genius musical moments and hidden things all over the track. And also three quite big mistakes in arrangement (in Cliff Burton's bass).
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Unfortunately, I had to drop a half of the video: verse modulation, harmony, solos, bridges, outro. Maybe I'll finish those later. Or maybe not. We'll see. Now I'm in the post-video-release I-hate-everything phase ;-) Shout out to Ben Eller, The Art of Guitar, and Signals Music Studio for their analysis of Master, link in description
Hellllloooooo frriend
It's really nice of you to name Ben Eller and Jake from Signals Music. They are good analysts themselves. Thanks for the video Andriy.
The interlude is just perfect IMO. 😁
We want the second part plz
Keep up the great work
I hope that cliff was drunk during master of puppets recording
Cliff didn’t make mistakes, he made features.
He made happy little accidents
Tonal Harmony is wrong and Cliff knew it. But we are not ready for that type of truth.
@@lordviewer7305 It happens in other metal genres, and jazz, now and then.
it sounds better with the minor second imo, adds to the tension of the bridge
Are you an IT guy?
Eyyyy thanks for the mention, buddy!!!
Love you uncle Ben!!!
@@johnbraucher1499 I do tooooo!!!
Uncle Ben!!!
Ben Eller , ya gotta keep them arm hands moving quickly on M. O. P. . I learned how to play it the correct way from your video a couple of years ago!
You mean frrriend?
“We played it that way because it sounded metal AF”
-Papa Het
Video is bomb though.
"Juh juh juh juh juh juh juh juh juh"
*pauses*
*starts questioning life*
I love this channel.
Best Metallica channel ever
I read this comment at the same time he said "juh juh juh"
G g g g g unit
Rick Beato has a "What makes this song great" on MoP. It's great of course.
I totally forgot about it, definitely check it out friends
Minor second interval *exists*
Music theory: you shouldnt use it
Korn: use it anyways
Music theory: *visible confusion*
Isn't the minor 2nd interval also the one I've come to know as "headache"?
As such: www.dropbox.com/s/wvqv98agi7s81a4/headache.wav?dl=0
Been listening that for years and years without knowing how it's done or what its called.
@@Quusikko Yes, that's it.
Tool and Deftones want to know your location
Metalcore n deathcore bands use it all the time too. Sounds litty
literally every metalcore band
No no no no. That last dissonance Is surely intentional. It adds a sinister feel that also helps transition to the next
Agree. Sinister feel is a good way to put it. Cliff was a student of classical music and definitely knew what James was playing.
I'm a classically trained composer, and use dissonance, including minor seconds, all the time. I too believe this was on purpose. This is like taking dissonant "jazz chords", or like weird "Meshuggah chords/leads", and claiming they must have been a mistake. We'll never know for sure, without Cliff - but I agree that Cliff knew what he was doing too well for it to be a mistake.
Highly unlikely. The band probably didn't notice it in the mix.
@@ImYourOverlord really?
@@builderbuilder616 That's my best guess. I'm very slightly tempted to believe Cliff intended for it to be that way, but it's difficult to fully accept.
Master of Puppets doesn't have A main riff. It has THE main riffs.
Not unless there're several main riffs. I don't don't know who's THE great composer, but I do know there exist many great composers.
Bass is correct. All guitars wrong.
Both are correct.
Both are wrong.
There is no right or wrong in music. There's just sounds good and sounds bad. Master of Puppets sounds really really REALLY good.
Bass is always correct over guitar
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Your videos are becoming closer and closer to absolute perfection. You really deserve an interview with Metallica, I hope it happens at some point!
I would love to see that too. Definitely deserved it.
Even more so as this guy seems to know more about Metallica than Metallica themselves... :P
Hey Andriy. I still wait for All Nightmare Long vs Spit Out the Bone 🤟. Also, StateOfMercury says he’d like to collaborate with you again, so if you’re willing to make some more epic videos with him, we’d like to see them, frrrrrrrrrrrrrriend 🤟
Perhaps Cliff purposefully holds down the root note in the bass to transform James's ordinary power chord into a beastly flat sus minor 6th chord. --Dissonance belongs in every Thrash composition / arrangement!
Yeah, i would also say that, taking a tritone and adding a minor 2nd interval... maybe the ultimate dissonance haha
He was a student of classical music. I guess he knew exactly what James was playing and added some more tension to it here and there.
9:33 Best Dave Mustaine impression possibly maybe?
8:44 I understood that reference
To be honest, I really like the minor second dissonance, I actually used quarter tone dissonance in a song before lol
I first learned this song after about 1 year of starting learning the drums, could be more or less. Honestly it's way more intuitive than people say with the signatures. It's 4/4 all the time with some extra half bars and some notes organized differently across the bar, except the "21/32" dun dun. I agree with Lars there, maybe my inexperience at the time actually helped
@Deconstruction 33 I think that's what he meant by half bars, it's largely 4/4 but with some measures of 2/4
i think it was a mistake at first its a missed 32nd note i think sounds great tho
Next serie you should analyze the official sheet music compare to the original songs. Specially for example this song and Fade to black with those major chords on the sheet music. And talk about how bands like Apocalyptica used those books to make their covers.
Oh man, covering all the wrong notes in those official tablature/notation books would take FOREVER! It's almost more wrong than right. And in those parts where the notation is right, the tab is often still wrong. Geez... What a trainwreck!
Love your content man 🔥🤘🏻
I appreciate it! 🤘
11:20
Cliff: Uses minor seconds
Nu metal: Holy shit that's awesome man, let's try it
9:31 when I understood andry had fallen
G Titod now we’re in the eyes of the tornadOoO
I’ve been watching your channel for a while now, but I just haven’t realized how much I like the sound of your voice. I know this sounds weird but your accent is really cool. This is the first time I realized this lol.
Kirk said this about the main riff, and how James came up with it.
""HAMMETT I’ll tell you how the main [descending] riff to “Master of Puppets” came about. On the Ride the Lightning tour, James would always play the riff in the dressing room, but on the D string, and I’d play it simultaneously on the G string as a parallel-fourths harmony line. It sounded really dorky and funny. Then one day at rehearsal, James said, “Let me show you this really heavy song intro,” and proceeded to play that exact riff on the low E string. I said, “Ah, so you finally found a use for that dorky little thing!” It’s anything but dorky now."
"
Hearing Andriy say "Blyad" is worth watching the ad. More BLYAD please.
“You must not allow dissonance in your recordings”
Um... do you even listen to metal bro.?
He was being sarcastic there, because that's what a music theory snob would maybe say.
I think he was kinda joking
He said they should not be allowed in arrangements
Not just any dissonance, but there's a time and a place for everything.
For me, the main riff of Master Of Puppets is the verse riff. The riff that Andriy thinks is the main riff, to me, is more like a hook riff that ties the chorus and verses together.
Yeah, that's definitely not the main riff. The verse comes back so much more than the intro riff
YES HE MADE THE BEST VIDEO THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED ON THIS FRIDAY YAY
Edit: I meant Friday I thought it was Saturday.
“To be continued”
(Maybe)
Me: oh, well, I excepted that...
I haven't see the video but I think it is a really great video so... Nice Video!!
Totally forgot about it, I'll add his video
@@AndriyVasylenko That harvester of sorrow in major key hahaha
I love the dissonant chunk in that section! It breaks it up a little bit and gives it character
You mean Holy Wars is the Master of Puppets of Megadeth
Indeed. I know time is an illusion but still... XD
Holy wars is a better song
@@H.E.M. Ehhhhhhhhhh
@@H.E.M. Even if it is a better song Master of Puppets came out first
Ofcourse MOP is better
To state the obvious, it is possible to use dissonance deliberately. In the heavy ending of the interlude it actually makes sense to use dissonance (in my opinion) if you understand the song as a whole. Most of the lyrics are written from the perspective of the master/drug; but during the interlude the lyrics are written from the perspective of the one using the drug. In my opinion the violence of the faster portions of the song suggests a constant struggle between the master/drug and the user, who crashes just before the interlude. It seems to me that the user then starts to get a grip of himself; he vocalizes his realization that the drug isn't giving him what he wants in life, and that he has become a slave to the master. However, the solo represents the user finally giving into his desire for the drug and the high that follows; but the high is fleeting and the old violent struggle between the drug and user resumes. The dissonance during the heavy ending of the interlude makes sense because tension is growing as the user expresses anger and frustration, but nevertheless slowly gives in to temptation. I don't think it's any accident that in the S&M and S&M2 versions (as far as I can tell) the orchestral strings produce a considerable amount of dissonance during the heavy ending of the interlude. I'm not saying that Cliff definitely used dissonance deliberately in every instance; but in some places it makes sense, and he knew enough about music theory that I would think he would have realized what he was doing.
" the solo represents the user finally giving into his desire for the drug and the high that follows" - Indeed, as James cries: "Fix me!"
Imagine writing that whole thing just to be wrong 😅
@@joelee6565
I must be wrong, because you said so, and also because your argument is irrefutable. I once thought that dissonance had been deliberately used in metal since the early days of Black Sabbath; but apparently this is incorrect. Dissonance has no place in metal; therefore, Cliff Burton must have made a mistake. Musical geniuses like you have conclusively exposed Cliff's wrongness, so that everyone who formerly thought that Cliff was a competent bassist and musician must cower before your withering intellect and admit that they had been wrong.
@@ryangardner8125 it's still too much to read 😂 the video says ur wrong
@@joelee6565
Your response confirms what I had suspected.
Anyone else had trouble playing this song with all downstrokes at first?
Not really, just feels natural to me, playing the riff downpicked. Doesn't mean i can play the song amazingly good, but the downstrokes never bothered me.
The downstrokes never bothered me, I have a naturally fast right hand. It’s the left hand that bothers me. I can’t change chords that fast. But I’ll get there
@@D1ckGr4ys0n same
I can play it with all downstrokes it’s just that I can’t pick two strings for some reason
Yea i have. I can only do it with alternate picking. I cant downpick that fast lol=)
Love the vids
New day, new chance to ask for a Tornado Of Souls analysis before you retire from RUclips (and my heart)
Epic video as always. Your channel needs to grow FASTERRR. 🤘
Amazing analysis as usual man! I'm really gonna miss you here. You got me more interested on bass. With love from Argentina!
0:31 It has been almost two years and I can't believe I only noticed this right now at 3 AM XD 🤣🤣🤣🤣
12:48 Τhis is called dissonance of a minor second, and you should not allow it in your arrangements".. unless your band name is Opeth
This triggers my Windowpanes
Or most extreme metal
In my opinion C sounds much better in that post-interlude riff
Just realised I was wrong, I play C all the time too. Cliffs right, James was wrong!!
I believe he did it on purpose to increase the tension.
No
Fun fact about the origin for the main riff in Master Of Puppets, according to Kirk in the book ”Back To The Front”.
Kirk Hammett:
We were drinking at the Carlson house one night, and Lars turned on the tape deck:
”Listen to this, man! Fostex Multitrack Mesa/Boogies with James playing the heaviest riff ever!”
It was the main riff to ”Master Of Puppets”, which had been quadrupled on all four tracks and sounded super heavy. And I knew it immediately as this joke riff that James would always play on the D-string. He just dropped it down to the low E-string and it was suddenly this whole other thing.
7:17 Legend
Your AD in the middle of the video made me happy...
Because it signifies your channel and persona are growing larger and reaching more people
0:27 Metallicoom
Wait..... How andriy did not heart your comment?!?!?
Bassline is the best part of the song
Хай фрэнд! I did some signature analysis myself using the original tracks ripped off of Guitar Hero (you can find them on youtube) and according to my math it's not 21/32, but 11/16 instead. Also, the tempo is 208 most of the time (and 104 in the middle), and not 212. In some rare occasions it jumps to 211, but never goes above that. I was using Reaper to put the backtrack (w/o guitars) together AND made some signature and tempo adjustments just to be able to play along with the original instead of MIDI versions (which are all wrong).
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Good shit.
I love how Lars is like "...the fuck do you want?" at 0:05, lol.
The day that finally came!
Master is my fav album and I whaited for video like this. Super work frrrrriend👊👊
Dude, I have been following your videos and channel since forever and still enjoy the shit out of every one. Cant believe you will quit making these masterpieces in new year's
I don't believe the interlude was a mistake. Creates sick metal dissonance! I always play it cliff's way despite knowing the guitar part. Great video!!
Man I really enjoyed that video. Thanks.
Cliff was a student of classical music - so I guess he probably knew when he played something dissonant. Dissonance doesn´t mean automatically wrong. It can also create tension being released in a following harmony. And yeah the part between interlude and solo is there to create tension. Dissonances make totally sense in that part.
The whole chromatic scale has a dissonant sinister vibe which serves the song very well, and so do the minor ninths Cliff added to the riffs here and there.
I highly agree that dissonance doesn't automatically mean wrong, and Cliff did indeed know quite a lot of music theory and how classical music was arranged, but in this case it was just a big mistake. If you check live footage from the Damage tour 1986, you can clearly hear that he's playing C# along with the guitars, so sometime shortly after the album was recorded he realized his mistake and corrected it for live performances.
love you Frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriendsssssssssss
Man, I love your enthusiasm, so positive! I would love to be in a band with you! Cheers!
Am I the only one that thoroughly enjoys these break down videos but rarely knows what he's talking about?lol When I make music with people it sounds like cavemen talking.
Me: I like the ja-ja part.
Bandmate: yeah, then I'll add the ba-dum-tap part
Both: Yeah!!
I can't stop replaying 10:14
Because of you,I make a youtube channel about Metallica in my own language.
This is awesome. Thanks Andriy :)
I loved this!!! GREAT work! I also laughed out loud about your inch-check (and at a few other things too).
Wow. Those mistakes. Never caught them. Great video.
7:44 I like Kirk's original version more. It sound a bit like Iron Maiden
Thanks andriy for your channel. I respect your decisions that you make. Hope you'll be better next year. I'm polish by the way. But dont swear to me I'm only 13.
Greetings :)
Omg kid no offense but u cant just ask a youtuber with such audience to not swear bc your mom doesnt like it🙄 have some wits and watch it privately or something
@@pastorofmuppets9346 ye I think you're right.
I like how the videos are getting better and better over time.
Feel...not maths...I love MetallicA even more!
Dude! I really liked your delivery on this one. Nice job
Dissonance in this case is a matter of art. It conveys chaos and distress and in some cases can be used to showcase an unfulfilled climax. In art nothing is wrong only incorrectly interpreted.
Best video you've done! And I really liked the emphasis on humor. It's a fun one.
Normal people: The Masters of Puppets main riff
Andriy: The *DubudaDubuda* riff👁️👄👁️
Fastest 12 min in my life
You helped me learn music theory, thanks man.
That was a deep dive.
Thank you for your work.
Did you really think I wouldn't notice the shirt switch at 1:39?
He is now legally old enough to buy alcohol, even tho he has already drank more at this point than most will in their whole lifetime.
I'm still in awe of the fact they were able to use the chromatic scale so brilliantly.
All I can do with it is the 4 note per string exercise...
Fantastic video, and I feel embarrassed I had never noticed these myself. And I laughed so hard! Shoutout from Berlin.
Hey Andriy!First of all,love your channel,always bringing great content about Metallica and other Thrash bands.I know we're still in the Metallica month,however,could I ask you to break down the song Floods from Pantera?I think it is a legendary track by them,and even though it has Dimebag's greatest solo,I still think it is kinda underrated.There would be a lot to talk about this track.Could you consider it?
Cheers from Brazil,frrriend!🇧🇷
Sup Andrew!
You've done amazing work figuring out peculiar stuff from Puppets, well done. But I can't help but mention that you've boosted your accent as well, now it's definitely honey to our ears to listen to you speaking. Not saying it was any bad back in the day at all, just want to say we're all here happy to see you growing as a person, musician and an active English speaker:)
Cheers!
your videos are soo rewatchable like oh my god this is my 3rd or 4th time watching this video man... you are great and you deserve millions of subs, and I believe that you will get to make an interview with our favorite fucking band! \m/
Wow I realy appreciate your work and skills. At the same time this film is really cool to watch. Thank you! 🤘
I love your videos man. Informative and entertaining
Gonna miss these videos ✌️ love your stuff
There are no mistakes, only happy accidents.
Bob Ross reference
Its more intresting with those mistakes
I love it
Best track to warm up the right arm and get the blood flowing. I can see why Hetfield holds the pick the way he does for tighter down picking.
@Deconstruction 33 thumb and forefinger and middle finger, helps when fast down picking
Aww, he didn’t say G-Unit at the end of “gugguguggu” at 5:47 lol
what made cliff a genius you called errors astounding
These are just perfect. Keep it up frrrrrriend!!!
11:23 - This is not a minor second, this is an augmented octave.
Potato potato what is it a double diminished third now?
Negative major
A question for Andriy: Which song do you think is better? Holy Wars or Master of Puppets?
Hope someone replies to this: I want to start to play bass but I don’t know which bass is the best for a beginner. Do you have any suggestions?
The bass that you like the most. Everything is good as far as you like it
I mean, the famous Hendrix chord is based on this half step dissonance, so who knows? Maybe it was intentional. It sounds good.
With the octave difference between bass and guitar wouldn't it be a 9th instead of a 2nd and therefor Jazzy and cool instead?
My favorite song 🤘🤘
i hope your post-video-release I-hate-everything phase abates soon, because this is a seriously insightful video on a great song. eagerly awaiting part 2 if you decide to make it!
"HAMMETT: I’ll tell you how the main [descending] riff to “Master of Puppets” came about. On the Ride the Lightning tour, James would always play the riff in the dressing room, but on the D string, and I’d play it simultaneously on the G string as a parallel-fourths harmony line. It sounded really dorky and funny. Then one day at rehearsal, James said, “Let me show you this really heavy song intro,” and proceeded to play that exact riff on the low E string. I said, “Ah, so you finally found a use for that dorky little thing!” It’s anything but dorky now."
3:48 . Who all jelous of his skull ring?
My favorite youtuber uploaded again😊😊😊
haha that was an incredible video, 1,000 years from now we hearing news discovers about master of puppets