" Four in the center mass and two in the head... with a 22 magnum, its lights out buddy" Yes, that is something that not many gun channels admit! Thank you sir! I as well am an outdoors photographer who is out in some remote areas and needs something smaller for my small size. GREAT review Sir!
I've got one with a 4in barrel. It's built like a tank& the extra couple inches adds considerable velocity making it a serious threat to anything on "the wrong end" of it.
ruizhernandeztrustfi ....I certainly do love revolvers. I'm hoping to do a video on the S&W Model 36 snub nose .38 and the Ruger LCR in the near future...weather permitting.
Yeah Mixup is quickly becoming my favorite gun reviewer, probably is already. Good guy, awesome shooter, straight to the point, just reviews the gun without worrying about anything else. I'll always love Mr. Hickok and his was the first gun channel I started watching but his seemingly constant need to always point out the ways glocks are favorable to the pistols he reviews have been a turn off for me, as if glock needs anymore help advertising their guns.
I'm glad to hear Charter Arms has great customer service. Hopefully your problems with the gun are fixed. I had absolutely no problems with Terry's gun. Please let me know if you have any other problems with your gun so I can pass the info onto my viewers. A gun needs to be 100% reliable if used for self defense. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching my video.
I really like a.22 revolver as opposed to a .22 semi-automatic. There always seem to be jams or failures to feed. For up close and personal defense, i think these nifty Charter Arms revolvers are pretty cool. Thanks for the review.
Just bought this gun today, took it out to do a test run. Very difficult to eject the spent shells (CCI WMR) on the first two cylinders fired. Switched to Hornady Vmax 30 grn. Would not eject and when I tapped the ejector rod, the cylinder came off of the shaft instead of ejecting the shells. POC Charter Arms!!
was given a 44 snub from my dad.... charter arms. I literally own Browning EVERYTHING. Other than my remington model 12 fieldmaster. was skeptical, but I am glad it found its way in my collection. charter arms is actually decent quality....
The older all metal Pathfinder looks more interesting now that Charter Arms has introduced a plastic framed version. I'm not sold on the use of plastic for a structural frame that needs to support the mainspring. I tried a couple of Charter Arms revolvers during the 1970s -- the Bulldog and Police Bulldog, the latter a 5-shot .357 magnum that was lightweight and kicked like a mule with full magnum loads. Good revolvers overall, although they had some nagging issues that could be resolved: 1. Screws tended to back out under recoil, but could be secured with threadlocker compounds. The worst issue was the threaded pin attached to the cylinder release mechanism. When that loosened up and backed out partway it prevented opening the cylinder to reload. 2. The bottom edge of the cylinder release latch cut my thumb joint under recoil with magnum loads or hot .38 Special rounds. If I'd kept the gun I would have filed the bottom of the latch. That probably didn't affect people with normal sized fingers but my thumbs are freakishly long orangutan digits.
Charter makes fine revolvers,I own 4 currently,all older models,22m,38sl (x2) and a newer Charter 2000 Bulldog Pug. I love all of em' but will admit the newer ones (2000) are not as good as the older ones. It is good to know that the company is back in the hands of the original family. My 38 Undercover model is my 99% go to and daily carry gun. thanks for the video
Thanks for the review. Back in the early '80s a friend had the Bulldog 44 special revolver, with a 2.5" or 3" barrel. The action was the grittiest of any revolver I've ever handled or shot. You mention that CA has been through a few changes over the years, so I'm sure their quality has been up and down.
A Bulldog .44 Special has been on my bucket list for a long time and hopefully someday I'll find one in stock somewhere. I will check the trigger pull before buying one though.
Excellent video sir. I used to have a Ruger LCR 22 wmr and I didn't like it all that much. I may revisit this snubbie as a companion to a larger 22 wmr revolver I have. Thanks again.
I gave my lil sister one of these revolvers to keep near her bed. We have only been able to shoot at paper when we go out to the range, she'll appreciate this demo for sure. Thanks for the good vid.
I have a CA Undercover I got for $150 from a co-worker at a job last summer. She had only fired 44 out of a 50 round box of FMJ ammo. I have put around 200 standard FMJ and 25 for testing Hornady Critical Defense JHP's which is my load. I carry my revolver when ever I am outside. Mine has a 01/2008 dated test round in it. The only issue I found on mine is cosmetic and does not effect shooting at all.
Nice video. I have theory on why double action revolvers always feel better then we expect. Remember those double action cap guns that we all grew up with. I must have pulled those triggers a hundred thousand time and I rarely find a revolver that is as bad as I think it will be even on the low end. But Semi-autos I always have a critical opinion on. In short we have been conditioned through play to accept single action triggers as they are.
Another great video. I have a charter arms undercover 38 stainless and the sights aren't meant to be aimed "flush" like you'd think. The trench rear is to be lined up in the middle of the front sight post. Its not like you're gonna be shooing a competition with it so that's why it's like that haha. It's a great revolver especially for the money, wanted to sell it at first now I'm somehow attached because it's a swell "duty" gun if you will
Absolutely true, I have a S&W Model 59 9mm which I really love. The 59 was the first big bore pistol I ever bought. 4506 are amazing. I would love to have a 1006 some day. Definitely underrated, lost in Glocks shadow.
Good gun for the wife. One of the biggest reasons why some wives don't want to go to the range and practice is because their husband had them fire a larger caliber weapon the first time. Some wives never want to go back. A .38, or a .380 may seem like logical choices since they are smaller, fit in a woman's hand well. But to woman who wasn't very interested anyways and you had to make go there so she can be prepared, that big boom and kick in her small, week, laundry folding hand can scare them. Even if they don't say anything. I've seen women fire a .38 and then want to put it down and never touch it again. 9mm too. Its a new world to them, so they think it can fly back and shoot them in the face. Start them off with a 10/22 charger, or a Kel Tek plr 22. Something they can hold with 2 hands, low recoil, 25 round mag, they can be accurate and not be spooked. Then a .22 revolver. Let them learn first that they CAN handle a firearm. And then have them always train on that weapon that they will carry or keep in their car. Cheaper ammo, less recoil, and they can stay on target better. Anyone who thinks a .22 won't kill you is a fool. As larger caliber guns became popular and folks started getting in to personal protection more, the .22 got a bad rap. But they have killed cops, taken down boars, and flat out will do the job.
You are absolutely right about starting new people with a .22. I bought a Ruger Wrangler just for that. Turns out newbies actually enjoy the slow, one-at-a-time process of loading, shooting and ejecting, not to mention how it slows down ammo consumption. The weight, the length, the cowboy look, are perfect for a new shooter. For an unintimidating, easy shooting revolver for a new person who doesn’t want a lot of recoil, consider the Charter Arms Undercoverette in .32 H&R Magnum but loaded with .32 wadcutters. It looks just like the gun in this video. .32 wadcutters sound and feel like .22lr rounds, but they penetrate about 14” in gel and have that flying-hole-punch effect, which makes them a real contender as a self-defense round.
I have the regular 22 pathfinder target version of that, and I just picked up a Ruger LCR in 22 magnum. In my area, any .22 revolver is expensive. And prices keep going up- the LCR in .22 magnum was the cheapest solution I could find. I also picked up a H&R 930 .22 9 round revolver. All of them are a joy to shoot.
@@crankygunreviews I love responding to my viewers and I do so every chance I get. Stay safe out there and thanks for watching (and loving) my channel.
super video!!! I would advise Terry not to use federal 40 grain out of a 2" revolver (your lucky if you have 850 FPS out of the round. Hornady makes a 25 grain round that they claim fires at about 1150 FPS. with the small size of the bullet you need maximum velosity. I found a really neat website, if you do a Google search for bbti ______ (it is Ballistics By The Inch) - just type "bbti" and then put a space in and type the caliber. IE: bbti .327 mag - this will give you the round plus barrel length to see what your velocity is.I just picked up a ruger, sp 100 327 mag with 4 inch barrel.it fires smooth, little recoil and with almost 1500 FPS vilocity, it has the stopping power of a .357 easily.
Personally I like the charter arms revolvers and it has been my experience the trigger is smoother. I have had several of these over the last 40 or so years. My eyes are not as good as they once were, I will be looking for a good used 22 lr this next year
I love Charter Arms revolvers as well. I have two right now, and I’m always looking to get more. I had a bulldog in 44 special before, and traded it in, I like the .22 and 38 varieties better
I own a Charter Arms .32 H & R Magnum Undercoverette. I load .32 S & W Long cartridges. Face it, the .32 H & R Mag round has gone the way of the Dodo bird. My Undercoverette looks exactly like his .22 Mag Charter Arms revolver. It's 16 ounces empty and a tad on the large and heavy side for true pocket pistol carry but it could be carried, not conveniently nor comfortably. The .32 S & W Long is still considered just okay for close range personal defense today. Over a hundred years ago, the .32 S &W Long revolvers were popular police pistols alongside their .38 Special brothers. The .32 Long was also popular for home defense.
Got my undercover back from CA. Had an issue with lite primer strikes. Took it to the range and had a number of liter strikes with one type made in Italy. The other had only one lite strike out of 50. Think I'll take it to a gunsmith and have a wolf spring put in it.
Regarding the sight, if you are going to use it you should be doing single action anyway. Furthermore, Crimson Trace makes a grip laser for it that takes all the fuss out of sighting. Put the dot where you want the bullet to go and pull the trigger. Slow or fast shooting doesn't make a difference.
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Great video, I enjoyed it. I remember when Charter Arms made a nice all steel .38 snub nose and they were pretty good guns. The newer ones I heard are not as good as the older ones, but they are supposed to be getting better. I subscribed to your channel. I enjoy your videos. Take care sir.
BRR....Charter Arms made some great guns back in the 1980s and I would prefer an older model to a newer one today. But like you said, they are getting better. I appreciate you watching and commenting on my videos. I also appreciate the sub. Spring is right around the corner and I'm hoping to shoot lots of videos this spring and summer.
Looking for a .22 mag revolver for my father and saw this at my local gun shop. I was considering the snub, but after watching, I think I'll choose the longer barrel. Subbed.
Awesome...thank you for the sub. I just picked up a used but nice Charter Arms .38 Special and I hope to do a review on it early next year. Thanks again and Happy New Year!
Almost bought one of the Charter Arms revolvers several years ago. The store did not have one in .357 mag. I ended up with a Taurus tracker which was on sale. I am looking forward to Charter Arms again but maybe in .22 magnum.
If you purchase a CA revolver, check the alignment of the barrel. Hopefully the QC at the factory has improved. Mine went back to have the barrel realigned, as well as the trigger fixed.
Same problem here when buying the 40S&W version. all three that I received from CA had the barrel out of alignment. I returned the first and the other 2 were sent as replacements that I also returned. I felt that if they couldn't see something so obvious at final inspection as new, I didn't have much confidence in their ability to repair it properly. I might be wrong but I gave them 3 chances to send me a good product and then my confidence was gone.
I just found your channel. Really great review on this little pistol. I don't own a charter arms gun but have been considering one in 44 special. I think for this gun I would want a set of laser grips for it. Wouldn't fix the sighting problem but would certainly give you an edge you wouldnt have without them.
With modern-day MIM, investment cast, and CNC machine parts it's possible to make a gun that decent for that price. That is the same price now that a P.O.S. Llama revolver cost in 1980!
Thank you, I am looking at .22 magnum rifle. for target shooting in the great basin. I do not plan "ever" getting into a gun fight. For cowboy shooting / pistol, and rifle same ammo. Looks like .22 magnum would work for a 10 foot punch. You and your son are creditable source of information. Go Utes!
I have a Ruger Single Six .22 Mag with 6 1/2 barrel it is very fun to shoot. Also have a Marlin .22 mag bolt action rifle...That rifle is so underrated. Put Hornady Hollow points in it...WoW !
I picked up a brand new Pathfinder Lite 22mag 2” this week for a little follow up of current 2018/2019 production. Out of the box the action was alittle rough, however the trigger pull overall wasn’t terrible in fact better than my smith 351pd which is really heavy pull. After 100-150 rounds the pistol really smoothed out a lot I’m much happier after some break In. It’s not as nice as my S&W build wise, but it’s USA made, seems durable overall and shoots well.
I looked at a new Charter Arms 22 mag pistol a while back. Trigger was extremely gritty and pulling back the hammer was also. Like it was packed in sand. I wanted it to be good because the price point was right but it just wasn't.
Target Pathfinder, 8 shot 22 rf,4in barrel and a Target Bulldog 357 Magnum, 4in barrel. Both fit my holsters. Handload for the 357. Rifle and revolvers that use the same ammo is a big plus, too. Rifles are scoped.
I have had 2 different 22 LR Pathfinders and both were very accurate and trouble free. NOT so with a Bulldog. It was a loser even after being back to the factory twice.
This is the first time I have shot a Charter Arms (CA) and I was quite impressed with it. I remember back in the "80s CA used to get good reviews but I never knew anybody that had one that I could try. That 40 S&W revolver sounds like it might be a winner.
I have a Charter Arms in .44 Special. This is my second .44 Special from CA. This Company makes fine revolvers. I plan on picking up the .22 Magnum after Christmas, 2014. You are absolutely right, anyone taking two .22 Magnums to the face, "Game Over." Thanks for the critique!
June Lewis ...you are welcome, June. Many years ago I had to chance to pick up a very nice used .44 Special Bulldog. I passed on the trade and I've been kicking myself ever since. If I buy a new one I will certainly make a video on it. Thanks for the great comment and thanks for watching my video.
mixup98 Many of us have had moments when we let a beautiful firearm get away. So, don't be so hard on yourself. Think of the fine weapons that you already have in your safe. Years ago, I let a Les Baer Combat Commander slip away. I had a couple of shots at it, (No Pun Intended) but declined. I am not proud of that, believe me! One of my prized firearms is a Smith 686 3" 357, six shot, stainless steel revolver. I bought it years ago, at a gun show, for a song. The gun used to be owned by a City Detective, in upstate New York. It is the smoothest, shooting gun that I own. I have also done some pretty stupid things, like selling vintage, Colt 1911A1 45 acp sidearms, used in WW II. We will not discuss the cowboy wheel guns that I let go. Nonetheless, I still have some collector pieces, i.e., pistols/rifles that a lot of people would drool over!
Nice video. I've been looking for a 22 snubbie for my wife. The Taurus 94 is a possibility, but I've heard the trigger pull is 16 pounds in double action. Plus there seems to be some other issues with it as well. I like the SW 317 pd, but the cost is too high. Any other suggestions?
***** ....your options with a new .22 revolver are very limited. Have you taken a look at the Charter Arms .22? You may have to look at the used gun market. Colt, S&W and Hi-Standard made excellent .22 revolvers years ago and you might be able to find a reasonably priced one at a gun or pawn shop.
It's been a few months but if you are still looking check out the Taurus Tracker line of 22lr and 22WMR revolvers. I own a 990 and a 992 and both are very accurate and the "best" trigger pull on the 22 revolver market. Out of the box they have been smooth and consistent in both SA and DA, a joy to shoot either.
Nice video, great shooting as always! That hammer spur being so high would be a real problem, makes me appreciate the engineering in a S&W lol. Whenever I think about charter arms it always reminds me of the son of sam with the .44 bulldog. Back then it was ban the "saturday night specials". This battle has been going on a long time, they just keep changing the guns they target.
I just got this in .32, and first thing out of the box I ground off the hammer spur with a bench grinder. It also comes with a complete list of replacement parts and prices, and a different hammer is $25.
.22 magnum pistol is roughly equivalent to 22 LR out of a rifle. Unless it were for pocket carry I would probably opt for at least a 4 inch barrel....for sight radius. It wouldn't add much mass.
good video sir. in my younger days, out on the mean streets, i relegated the .22mag round/weapon system, to the realm of the "get-off-me" realm. now that i am older, things have changed tremendously...in my mind, it's a horse race between charter arms, taurus, or ruger. it really depends on what knid of deal, and how much i want to spend for the weapon system. carry on!!
Ha. I find most of your vids pretty interesting and entertaining. Someday, somebody should have a channel where they specialize in assessing ability to get multiple hits on a randomly moving target instead of a stationary one (as in a bad-guy trying to dodge being shot). Also, many years ago now, I had a Rossi .22 mag revolver (pre-Taurus) and would fairly often get failures to fire with a variety of ammo even though the rimfire primer strikes looked just fine. At the time, I heard this was also fairly common with .22 mag revolvers from other manufacturers.I finally sold that Rossi because I couldn't count on it. But I love me some .22 mag rifle action and have a scoped Marlin 883 bolt-action that is very accurate and useful.
My day was a surveyor in the panhandle area, and he carried a cheapie H&R 9 shot .22LR. There is a snake under every bush, and come nightfall they all crawl onto the asphalt to stay warm. You would hit a snake every 20 yards driving down that highway, so a little .22 loaded with #12 ratshot was not a bad thing to have, and his was the 922 9 shot . For the big monster snakes a .38 Spcl was better. I am debating buying the 8 shot LCR in .22, or a 9 shot Taurus, or 10 shot S&W .22 revolver. My .38s & .357 are kinda nice for a snake gun environment. I do have a holster worn Colt Agent. (D frame and one of the nicest actions ever put in a revolver) Semi-autos won't cycle with shot shells. They will, but they won't cycle the gun.
I personally like Charter Arms. I have a Professional V 357 mag 6 shot, 3 inch barrel and it runs flawlessly. Not the prettiest gun but that means nothing for its shootability. Want pretty spend $400 more and get a Colt.
I bought a Charter arms .22 long rifle pathfinder snub nose revolver .. it had problems from the start with jamming during ejecting spent casings .. wound up having to send it back to factory .. and it broke again after I got it back in less than 50 shots ..
Good review of a brand I've not paid much attention to. I see Charter Arms also makes a revolver that shoots 40 S&W. I was thinking I'd like to own that gun, but did not know much about Charter Arms quality. I have a decent supply of .40 and obtained more online recently at a reasonable price. I enjoy watching your shooting skills.
@Cliff Yablonski They could optimize the powder burn rates for .22wmr and short barreled pistols. But the only brand I know that's offered anything of the sort is Speer Gold Dot. Unfortunately the quick flash powder spikes pressures and if the .22wmr casing isn't strong enough.... ka-blooey.
Paul Harrell has a video where he compares 22LR to 22mag, and he does some comparisons in other videos. Even the hot 22LR fall short of average 22mag. IRRC out of snubbies the mag is about 125fps faster than LR. The video is worth finding and watching.
Just bought one of these today brought it home put snap caps in drive fired it on the fifth drive far it just freezes up and won’t do nothing wait a second or two then you can drive fire two or three more times then you can’t do nothing don’t know what’s wrong any advice I’m definitely going to send it back .Don’t get me wrong probably just got a bad one I want another one because I really like the gun
I just bought one of these and I'm disappointed. I tried three different brands of ammo and had to pound the extractor rod with a small hammer to extract the empties. The revolver was also out of time. It shaved bullet jacket. My gun smith friend said that if I had called him first that he would have told me not to buy a Charter Arms revolver.
Yes the Charter Arms is small enough to be carried in the pocket. But it's not worth it. I got the gun back from Charter Arms and the only thing they fixed was the elevation issue. The cases still stuck and the gun seized up after a few rounds. Buy a better gun. Your life depends on it.
Conrad Luznar Yes I definitely believe 22 Mag has a place as a carry gun. It would be very good in the snub in the video for smaller women or seniors. Low recoil and more power than 22LR. Although I'm disappointed that Charter couldn't give it an 8 round cylinder.
You could bob the hammer which would make it a bit better for concealed carry and defense anyway and if you want an accurate single action shot you can use the Skeeter Skelton method...point gun at target, start the trigger pull, catch the hammer with the thumb and finish cocking it like you would if the spur was still there. The hammer can be safely lowered by holding it with the thumb, pull trigger to release the hammer first, remove finger from trigger then let go of hammer. Perfectly safe.
I would like to see a comparison of the 2 incher and a 4 inch double action as well as a4 3/4 sa revolver. In the longer barrels the 22 mag is worth the cost with a velocity over 1000 fps, then again 22 mag is no longer cheap and for 1/2 the price you can get 22 velocitor ammo that hits almost as hard
I'll keep making these videos as long as my ammo holds out:)
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" Four in the center mass and two in the head... with a 22 magnum, its lights out buddy" Yes, that is something that not many gun channels admit! Thank you sir! I as well am an outdoors photographer who is out in some remote areas and needs something smaller for my small size. GREAT review Sir!
That statement about 4 rounds to center mass and 2 to the head done fast is basically all a gun needs to do for self defense. Good job.
I'm surprised you aren't a bigger channel with how skilled and entertaining you are.
231,000 subscribers is pretty big! Just saying!🤠👍
Be nice if he could get a sponsor or two somehow
I've got one with a 4in barrel. It's built like a tank& the extra couple inches adds considerable velocity making it a serious threat to anything on "the wrong end" of it.
Yes indeed, it does have a transfer bar and the gun is extremely safe to carry fully loaded (and fun to shoot).
WOW! man,
Every time I see one of your videos I feel revitalized. I love revolvers as much as you do.
ruizhernandeztrustfi ....I certainly do love revolvers. I'm hoping to do a video on the S&W Model 36 snub nose .38 and the Ruger LCR in the near future...weather permitting.
These videos are probably some of my favorite gun videos on youtube
Yeah Mixup is quickly becoming my favorite gun reviewer, probably is already. Good guy, awesome shooter, straight to the point, just reviews the gun without worrying about anything else. I'll always love Mr. Hickok and his was the first gun channel I started watching but his seemingly constant need to always point out the ways glocks are favorable to the pistols he reviews have been a turn off for me, as if glock needs anymore help advertising their guns.
Have you ever seen hickock45 , tell you a gun is not gun , or jams ? Ive only seen 7 or so of his reviews, a guns he reviews are prefect....
TRUE DAT
Huge fan of this caliber. Thanks so much for the review and some insight on Charter Arms.
Me too, love the 22wmr. Great video!
I'm glad to hear Charter Arms has great customer service. Hopefully your problems with the gun are fixed. I had absolutely no problems with Terry's gun. Please let me know if you have any other problems with your gun so I can pass the info onto my viewers. A gun needs to be 100% reliable if used for self defense. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching my video.
Thanks Chris.....I appreciate the kind words.
Confirmed-Charter hasn't been junk in a while. Good value
ᴛʜᴇ Qᴜᴇꜱᴛɪᴏɴ 300 pounds of energy it’s the same as 9mm
FUMANDO MOTA that’s out of a rifle. In a handgun it’s about half as powerful.
But what about the defense 22 mag ammo made for the short barrels.
My next pistol.
I always wanted one of their 44Special bulldogs. 👍🏻
YOU ARE ONE HELL OF A GREAT SHOOTER!!! I ENJOY ALL YOUR VIDEOS..THANKS!!
Thanks Robbie....you just made my day (and you made me smile, thanks).
Robbie Williams how much
I really like a.22 revolver as opposed to a .22 semi-automatic. There always seem to be jams or failures to feed. For up close and personal defense, i think these nifty Charter Arms revolvers are pretty cool. Thanks for the review.
Well said, my thoughts also. I love simple . An open cylinder is good hand gun ethics
Just bought this gun today, took it out to do a test run. Very difficult to eject the spent shells (CCI WMR) on the first two cylinders fired. Switched to Hornady Vmax 30 grn. Would not eject and when I tapped the ejector rod, the cylinder came off of the shaft instead of ejecting the shells. POC Charter Arms!!
was given a 44 snub from my dad.... charter arms. I literally own Browning EVERYTHING. Other than my remington model 12 fieldmaster. was skeptical, but I am glad it found its way in my collection. charter arms is actually decent quality....
The older all metal Pathfinder looks more interesting now that Charter Arms has introduced a plastic framed version. I'm not sold on the use of plastic for a structural frame that needs to support the mainspring.
I tried a couple of Charter Arms revolvers during the 1970s -- the Bulldog and Police Bulldog, the latter a 5-shot .357 magnum that was lightweight and kicked like a mule with full magnum loads. Good revolvers overall, although they had some nagging issues that could be resolved: 1. Screws tended to back out under recoil, but could be secured with threadlocker compounds. The worst issue was the threaded pin attached to the cylinder release mechanism. When that loosened up and backed out partway it prevented opening the cylinder to reload.
2. The bottom edge of the cylinder release latch cut my thumb joint under recoil with magnum loads or hot .38 Special rounds. If I'd kept the gun I would have filed the bottom of the latch. That probably didn't affect people with normal sized fingers but my thumbs are freakishly long orangutan digits.
Charter makes fine revolvers,I own 4 currently,all older models,22m,38sl (x2) and a newer Charter 2000 Bulldog Pug. I love all of em' but will admit the newer ones (2000) are not as good as the older ones. It is good to know that the company is back in the hands of the original family. My 38 Undercover model is my 99% go to and daily carry gun. thanks for the video
Excellent video! Illustrates perfectly the difference between a cartridge exactly the same fired out of a gun and out of a rifle.
I also have a Marlin .22 mag bolt rifle and it is extremely accurate. I'm hoping to shoot a video on this rifle in the near future.
Thanks for the review. Back in the early '80s a friend had the Bulldog 44 special revolver, with a 2.5" or 3" barrel. The action was the grittiest of any revolver I've ever handled or shot. You mention that CA has been through a few changes over the years, so I'm sure their quality has been up and down.
A Bulldog .44 Special has been on my bucket list for a long time and hopefully someday I'll find one in stock somewhere. I will check the trigger pull before buying one though.
William.....thanks for the compliment. Be safe and have fun with your new Pathfinder. And thanks for the sub:)
Excellent video sir. I used to have a Ruger LCR 22 wmr and I didn't like it all that much. I may revisit this snubbie as a companion to a larger 22 wmr revolver I have. Thanks again.
You're welcome Michael and thank you for watching my video.
no bad guy wants to get hit by 6 of anything.
I gave my lil sister one of these revolvers to keep near her bed. We have only been able to shoot at paper when we go out to the range, she'll appreciate this demo for sure. Thanks for the good vid.
I have a CA Undercover I got for $150 from a co-worker at a job last summer. She had only fired 44 out of a 50 round box of FMJ ammo. I have put around 200 standard FMJ and 25 for testing Hornady Critical Defense JHP's which is my load. I carry my revolver when ever I am outside. Mine has a 01/2008 dated test round in it. The only issue I found on mine is cosmetic and does not effect shooting at all.
Nice video. I have theory on why double action revolvers always feel better then we expect. Remember those double action cap guns that we all grew up with. I must have pulled those triggers a hundred thousand time and I rarely find a revolver that is as bad as I think it will be even on the low end. But Semi-autos I always have a critical opinion on. In short we have been conditioned through play to accept single action triggers as they are.
Another great video. I have a charter arms undercover 38 stainless and the sights aren't meant to be aimed "flush" like you'd think. The trench rear is to be lined up in the middle of the front sight post. Its not like you're gonna be shooing a competition with it so that's why it's like that haha. It's a great revolver especially for the money, wanted to sell it at first now I'm somehow attached because it's a swell "duty" gun if you will
Absolutely true, I have a S&W Model 59 9mm which I really love. The 59 was the first big bore pistol I ever bought. 4506 are amazing. I would love to have a 1006 some day. Definitely underrated, lost in Glocks shadow.
Super great video , first video I have seen with up close shooting , as it very well could be in self defense . Thank you !
You are very welcome Owen and I thank you for watching and commenting on my video.
About fifteen years ago I owned a S&W Model 645 but unfortunately I sold it. Maybe someday I'll run across another one and put it on youtube.
I subscribed because this guy's a maniac
Good gun for the wife. One of the biggest reasons why some wives don't want to go to the range and practice is because their husband had them fire a larger caliber weapon the first time. Some wives never want to go back. A .38, or a .380 may seem like logical choices since they are smaller, fit in a woman's hand well. But to woman who wasn't very interested anyways and you had to make go there so she can be prepared, that big boom and kick in her small, week, laundry folding hand can scare them. Even if they don't say anything. I've seen women fire a .38 and then want to put it down and never touch it again. 9mm too. Its a new world to them, so they think it can fly back and shoot them in the face. Start them off with a 10/22 charger, or a Kel Tek plr 22. Something they can hold with 2 hands, low recoil, 25 round mag, they can be accurate and not be spooked. Then a .22 revolver. Let them learn first that they CAN handle a firearm. And then have them always train on that weapon that they will carry or keep in their car. Cheaper ammo, less recoil, and they can stay on target better. Anyone who thinks a .22 won't kill you is a fool. As larger caliber guns became popular and folks started getting in to personal protection more, the .22 got a bad rap. But they have killed cops, taken down boars, and flat out will do the job.
You are absolutely right about starting new people with a .22. I bought a Ruger Wrangler just for that. Turns out newbies actually enjoy the slow, one-at-a-time process of loading, shooting and ejecting, not to mention how it slows down ammo consumption. The weight, the length, the cowboy look, are perfect for a new shooter.
For an unintimidating, easy shooting revolver for a new person who doesn’t want a lot of recoil, consider the Charter Arms Undercoverette in .32 H&R Magnum but loaded with .32 wadcutters. It looks just like the gun in this video. .32 wadcutters sound and feel like .22lr rounds, but they penetrate about 14” in gel and have that flying-hole-punch effect, which makes them a real contender as a self-defense round.
I have the regular 22 pathfinder target version of that, and I just picked up a Ruger LCR in 22 magnum. In my area, any .22 revolver is expensive. And prices keep going up- the LCR in .22 magnum was the cheapest solution I could find. I also picked up a H&R 930 .22 9 round revolver. All of them are a joy to shoot.
Looks like you have a nice collection there. I love the .22 magnum cartridge, especially when fired in a rifle.
@@mixup98 Thanks! And I keep watching your stuff because you comment on 7 year old videos still :) Love your channel
@@crankygunreviews I love responding to my viewers and I do so every chance I get. Stay safe out there and thanks for watching (and loving) my channel.
super video!!! I would advise Terry not to use federal 40 grain out of a 2" revolver (your lucky if you have 850 FPS out of the round. Hornady makes a 25 grain round that they claim fires at about 1150 FPS. with the small size of the bullet you need maximum velosity. I found a really neat website, if you do a Google search for bbti ______ (it is Ballistics By The Inch) - just type "bbti" and then put a space in and type the caliber. IE: bbti .327 mag - this will give you the round plus barrel length to see what your velocity is.I just picked up a ruger, sp 100 327 mag with 4 inch barrel.it fires smooth, little recoil and with almost 1500 FPS vilocity, it has the stopping power of a .357 easily.
Personally I like the charter arms revolvers and it has been my experience the trigger is smoother. I have had several of these over the last 40 or so years. My eyes are not as good as they once were, I will be looking for a good used 22 lr this next year
I love Charter Arms revolvers as well. I have two right now, and I’m always looking to get more. I had a bulldog in 44 special before, and traded it in, I like the .22 and 38 varieties better
I own a Charter Arms .32 H & R Magnum Undercoverette. I load .32 S & W Long cartridges. Face it, the .32 H & R Mag round has gone the way of the Dodo bird. My Undercoverette looks exactly like his .22 Mag Charter Arms revolver. It's 16 ounces empty and a tad on the large and heavy side for true pocket pistol carry but it could be carried, not conveniently nor comfortably. The .32 S & W Long is still considered just okay for close range personal defense today. Over a hundred years ago, the .32 S &W Long revolvers were popular police pistols alongside their .38 Special brothers. The .32 Long was also popular for home defense.
Got my undercover back from CA. Had an issue with lite primer strikes. Took it to the range and had a number of liter strikes with one type made in Italy. The other had only one lite strike out of 50. Think I'll take it to a gunsmith and have a wolf spring put in it.
You can't beat a S&W revolver. I'll be doing a video on my S&W model 586 in the near future. It should be fun..
I found a Taurus 942M with a 2 inch barrel for 350. Hard to find so I got it . Hello from Lubbock Texas. Thanks for the videos.
Hello Samuel and greetings from Nevada. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment on my video.
I think your friend made a good choice for his intended purpose, i.e. well made ,dependable,low cost and a good round. I really enjoy your vids.
Regarding the sight, if you are going to use it you should be doing single action anyway. Furthermore, Crimson Trace makes a grip laser for it that takes all the fuss out of sighting. Put the dot where you want the bullet to go and pull the trigger. Slow or fast shooting doesn't make a difference.
Great video, I enjoyed it. I remember when Charter Arms made a nice all steel .38 snub nose and they were pretty good guns. The newer ones I heard are not as good as the older ones, but they are supposed to be getting better. I subscribed to your channel. I enjoy your videos. Take care sir.
BRR....Charter Arms made some great guns back in the 1980s and I would prefer an older model to a newer one today. But like you said, they are getting better. I appreciate you watching and commenting on my videos. I also appreciate the sub. Spring is right around the corner and I'm hoping to shoot lots of videos this spring and summer.
I have the 4.2" barreled version. Now that I've found a brand / grain weight of ammunition she likes, she shoots better than I do.
What brand, weight, and grain? I just bought one.
Just bought this very revolver. I'm happy with it. Great for pocket trail carry.
Sounds good! Does it easily fit in a pocket or do u know the exact measurements?
Looking for a .22 mag revolver for my father and saw this at my local gun shop. I was considering the snub, but after watching, I think I'll choose the longer barrel. Subbed.
Awesome...thank you for the sub. I just picked up a used but nice Charter Arms .38 Special and I hope to do a review on it early next year. Thanks again and Happy New Year!
Almost bought one of the Charter Arms revolvers several years ago.
The store did not have one in .357 mag. I ended up with a Taurus tracker which was on sale. I am looking forward to Charter Arms again but maybe in .22 magnum.
I’ve shot 22mag out of a 6” heritage and a snubbie and even that 4 extra inches of barrel makes a noticeable difference.👌
If you purchase a CA revolver, check the alignment of the barrel. Hopefully the QC at the factory has improved. Mine went back to have the barrel realigned, as well as the trigger fixed.
Same problem here when buying the 40S&W version. all three that I received from CA had the barrel out of alignment. I returned the first and the other 2 were sent as replacements that I also returned. I felt that if they couldn't see something so obvious at final inspection as new, I didn't have much confidence in their ability to repair it properly. I might be wrong but I gave them 3 chances to send me a good product and then my confidence was gone.
I just found your channel. Really great review on this little pistol. I don't own a charter arms gun but have been considering one in 44 special. I think for this gun I would want a set of laser grips for it. Wouldn't fix the sighting problem but would certainly give you an edge you wouldnt have without them.
With modern-day MIM, investment cast, and CNC machine parts it's possible to make a gun that decent for that price. That is the same price now that a P.O.S. Llama revolver cost in 1980!
Thank you, I am looking at .22 magnum rifle. for target shooting in the great basin. I do not plan "ever" getting into a gun fight. For cowboy shooting / pistol, and rifle same ammo. Looks like .22 magnum would work for a 10 foot punch. You and your son are creditable source of information. Go Utes!
Thank you for the nice comment Marc. I own a Ruger American .22 magnum rifle and I love it. Savage also makes a very accurate .22 magnum rifle.
I have a Ruger Single Six .22 Mag with 6 1/2 barrel it is very fun to shoot. Also have a Marlin .22 mag bolt action rifle...That rifle is so underrated. Put Hornady Hollow points in it...WoW !
I picked up a brand new Pathfinder Lite 22mag 2” this week for a little follow up of current 2018/2019 production. Out of the box the action was alittle rough, however the trigger pull overall wasn’t terrible in fact better than my smith 351pd which is really heavy pull. After 100-150 rounds the pistol really smoothed out a lot I’m much happier after some break In. It’s not as nice as my S&W build wise, but it’s USA made, seems durable overall and shoots well.
yes Sr.......you are one of the best in you tube....I really enjoy your videos.....keep up the good work
I looked at a new Charter Arms 22 mag pistol a while back. Trigger was extremely gritty and pulling back the hammer was also. Like it was packed in sand. I wanted it to be good because the price point was right but it just wasn't.
This is pretty good but there are other reviews on the tube using 22WMR in a 4 inch barrel and it betters the 22Lr out of a rifle
Target Pathfinder, 8 shot 22 rf,4in barrel and a Target Bulldog 357 Magnum, 4in barrel. Both fit my holsters. Handload for the 357.
Rifle and revolvers that use the same ammo is a big plus, too. Rifles are scoped.
I have had 2 different 22 LR Pathfinders and both were very accurate and trouble free.
NOT so with a Bulldog. It was a loser even after being back to the factory twice.
Thank you Mr. Thomas.
you are a great shooter...and I love your videos...excellent work
Thank you Miguel. I have fun making my videos and I'm glad you love them.
This is the first time I have shot a Charter Arms (CA) and I was quite impressed with it. I remember back in the "80s CA used to get good reviews but I never knew anybody that had one that I could try. That 40 S&W revolver sounds like it might be a winner.
brodawg44....you're welcome. Thanks for watching my video.
I have a Charter Arms in .44 Special. This is my second .44 Special from CA. This Company makes fine revolvers. I plan on picking up the .22 Magnum after Christmas, 2014. You are absolutely right, anyone taking two .22 Magnums to the face, "Game Over." Thanks for the critique!
June Lewis ...you are welcome, June. Many years ago I had to chance to pick up a very nice used .44 Special Bulldog. I passed on the trade and I've been kicking myself ever since. If I buy a new one I will certainly make a video on it. Thanks for the great comment and thanks for watching my video.
mixup98
Many of us have had moments when we let a beautiful firearm get away. So, don't be so hard on yourself. Think of the fine weapons that you already have in your safe. Years ago, I let a Les Baer Combat Commander slip away. I had a couple of shots at it, (No Pun Intended) but declined. I am not proud of that, believe me! One of my prized firearms is a Smith 686 3" 357, six shot, stainless steel revolver. I bought it years ago, at a gun show, for a song. The gun used to be owned by a City Detective, in upstate New York. It is the smoothest, shooting gun that I own. I have also done some pretty stupid things, like selling vintage, Colt 1911A1 45 acp sidearms, used in WW II. We will not discuss the cowboy wheel guns that I let go. Nonetheless, I still have some collector pieces, i.e., pistols/rifles that a lot of people would drool over!
Nice video. I've been looking for a 22 snubbie for my wife. The Taurus 94 is a possibility, but I've heard the trigger pull is 16 pounds in double action. Plus there seems to be some other issues with it as well. I like the SW 317 pd, but the cost is too high. Any other suggestions?
***** ....your options with a new .22 revolver are very limited. Have you taken a look at the Charter Arms .22? You may have to look at the used gun market. Colt, S&W and Hi-Standard made excellent .22 revolvers years ago and you might be able to find a reasonably priced one at a gun or pawn shop.
It's been a few months but if you are still looking check out the Taurus Tracker line of 22lr and 22WMR revolvers. I own a 990 and a 992 and both are very accurate and the "best" trigger pull on the 22 revolver market. Out of the box they have been smooth and consistent in both SA and DA, a joy to shoot either.
i have owned mine for 5 years and shot it alot, no problems i love this Gun
How concealable is it exactly? Can I get the specs? Thanks
@@leifhatlestadiii5152 2 inch barrel 19 ounces
Nice video, great shooting as always! That hammer spur being so high would be a real problem, makes me appreciate the engineering in a S&W lol. Whenever I think about charter arms it always reminds me of the son of sam with the .44 bulldog. Back then it was ban the "saturday night specials". This battle has been going on a long time, they just keep changing the guns they target.
I just got this in .32, and first thing out of the box I ground off the hammer spur with a bench grinder. It also comes with a complete list of replacement parts and prices, and a different hammer is $25.
I'd be proud to own and carry this as an edc. Nice gun and review!
Thanks Danny. Thanks for the compliment and I wish you a very Merry Christmas.
@@mixup98 your welcome sir, and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours! You do a great job on the reviews, really enjoy your site!
.22 magnum pistol is roughly equivalent to 22 LR out of a rifle. Unless it were for pocket carry I would probably opt for at least a 4 inch barrel....for sight radius. It wouldn't add much mass.
I suscribe to alot of channels but this is one of my favorites
Hes a cool old man . Good speaker. Not a lot of silly joking around.
I have a Ruger single 6 with interchangeable cylinders from 22lr to 22magnum... have been looking at this for a while thank you for your video
William Maddox ...you're welcome William. I appreciate you watching and commenting on my video.
I love mine. I've had it for some time.
good video sir. in my younger days, out on the mean streets, i relegated the .22mag round/weapon system, to the realm of the "get-off-me" realm. now that i am older, things have changed tremendously...in my mind, it's a horse race between charter arms, taurus, or ruger. it really depends on what knid of deal, and how much i want to spend for the weapon system.
carry on!!
If I'm not mistaken I believe either you or Paul sold that Pathfinder to Terry :)
Ha. I find most of your vids pretty interesting and entertaining. Someday, somebody should have a channel where they specialize in assessing ability to get multiple hits on a randomly moving target instead of a stationary one (as in a bad-guy trying to dodge being shot). Also, many years ago now, I had a Rossi .22 mag revolver (pre-Taurus) and would fairly often get failures to fire with a variety of ammo even though the rimfire primer strikes looked just fine. At the time, I heard this was also fairly common with .22 mag revolvers from other manufacturers.I finally sold that Rossi because I couldn't count on it. But I love me some .22 mag rifle action and have a scoped Marlin 883 bolt-action that is very accurate and useful.
My day was a surveyor in the panhandle area, and he carried a cheapie H&R 9 shot .22LR. There is a snake under every bush, and come nightfall they all crawl onto the asphalt to stay warm. You would hit a snake every 20 yards driving down that highway, so a little .22 loaded with #12 ratshot was not a bad thing to have, and his was the 922 9 shot . For the big monster snakes a .38 Spcl was better. I am debating buying the 8 shot LCR in .22, or a 9 shot Taurus, or 10 shot S&W .22 revolver. My .38s & .357 are kinda nice for a snake gun environment. I do have a holster worn Colt Agent. (D frame and one of the nicest actions ever put in a revolver) Semi-autos won't cycle with shot shells. They will, but they won't cycle the gun.
You're living the dream man congrats!
Oheeeoh....I truly am a blessed man. Our 2nd Amendment is alive and well in Nevada.
I have the same model. Pretty much lives in the glovebox. Good shooter.
They also make a 22 mag revolver with a 4 inch barrel (pathfinder). Is this much more potent than the snub nosed version?
I personally like Charter Arms. I have a Professional V 357 mag 6 shot, 3 inch barrel and it runs flawlessly. Not the prettiest gun but that means nothing for its shootability. Want pretty spend $400 more and get a Colt.
I bought a Charter arms .22 long rifle pathfinder snub nose revolver .. it had problems from the start with jamming during ejecting spent casings .. wound up having to send it back to factory .. and it broke again after I got it back in less than 50 shots ..
I agree....thanks.
Good review of a brand I've not paid much attention to. I see Charter Arms also makes a revolver that shoots 40 S&W. I was thinking I'd like to own that gun, but did not know much about Charter Arms quality. I have a decent supply of .40 and obtained more online recently at a reasonable price. I enjoy watching your shooting skills.
Guessing some "hot" .22LR would be nearly equal to the .22wmr in a 2" snubby.
@Cliff Yablonski About half the volume of powder would simply burn in the air, doing approximately zero for bullet velocity.
@Cliff Yablonski They could optimize the powder burn rates for .22wmr and short barreled pistols. But the only brand I know that's offered anything of the sort is Speer Gold Dot. Unfortunately the quick flash powder spikes pressures and if the .22wmr casing isn't strong enough.... ka-blooey.
Paul Harrell has a video where he compares 22LR to 22mag, and he does some comparisons in other videos. Even the hot 22LR fall short of average 22mag. IRRC out of snubbies the mag is about 125fps faster than LR. The video is worth finding and watching.
@@Salieri47 I've probably seen it at some point. Watched most of his videos.
Amen brother
" shot placement"
Stops the threat.
Just bought one of these today brought it home put snap caps in drive fired it on the fifth drive far it just freezes up and won’t do nothing wait a second or two then you can drive fire two or three more times then you can’t do nothing don’t know what’s wrong any advice I’m definitely going to send it back .Don’t get me wrong probably just got a bad one I want another one because I really like the gun
Excellent Video
Thanks....
You're welcome Tommy and thank you for watching my video.
I remember when these were 150 bucks, now they are around 300. I like them
Viable choice for self defense.
thanks for thew comparison!
Thanks for watching!
Great video just found it June 20 2022 was look to see if you done one on the Taurus 942 m 22mag or the Ruger LCR 22 WMR could not fine one..
how is it holding up and after how many rounds do you have to clean it before it bind
I just bought one of these and I'm disappointed. I tried three different brands of ammo and had to pound the extractor rod with a small hammer to extract the empties. The revolver was also out of time. It shaved bullet jacket. My gun smith friend said that if I had called him first that he would have told me not to buy a Charter Arms revolver.
That sucks hopefully they fixed your issue. What did you think of the guns size? Could it be pocket carried?
Yes the Charter Arms is small enough to be carried in the pocket. But it's not worth it. I got the gun back from Charter Arms and the only thing they fixed was the elevation issue. The cases still stuck and the gun seized up after a few rounds. Buy a better gun. Your life depends on it.
@@damionpauksta3713 I'll go with a smith then thanks for the info!
.22 mag is good for a carry gun.
Conrad Luznar Yes I definitely believe 22 Mag has a place as a carry gun. It would be very good in the snub in the video for smaller women or seniors. Low recoil and more power than 22LR. Although I'm disappointed that Charter couldn't give it an 8 round cylinder.
i would trust my life to the cartridge
@@1911jt it is very loud out of a revolver for such a small cartridge
Yes it's loud which ever you are right or left take a few seconds to put in ear. Plugs make it a habit
Great video as always. Thanks for uploading these for us.
That is exactly what I would do if it were my gun....bob that dang hammer. I sure miss ol' Skeeter. Thanks for a great and useful comment.
Nice video. Just bought the Target Pathfinder with 5" barrel so I hope it's as good ... just have to wait for it to get here.
You could bob the hammer which would make it a bit better for concealed carry and defense anyway and if you want an accurate single action shot you can use the Skeeter Skelton method...point gun at target, start the trigger pull, catch the hammer with the thumb and finish cocking it like you would if the spur was still there. The hammer can be safely lowered by holding it with the thumb, pull trigger to release the hammer first, remove finger from trigger then let go of hammer. Perfectly safe.
I would like to see a comparison of the 2 incher and a 4 inch double action as well as a4 3/4 sa revolver. In the longer barrels the 22 mag is worth the cost with a velocity over 1000 fps, then again 22 mag is no longer cheap and for 1/2 the price you can get 22 velocitor ammo that hits almost as hard
nice work , pretty good video .