I did not know there were 22lr "Shot Shells that were totally "Sealed. I always thought the capsule bullets were worthless. This is excellent information. Great video as always. Thank you.
The crimped ones have been around loooong before the capped ones. I prefer the capped ones in an automatic pistol because they actually feed, whereas the crimped ones will not.
@@trevorteague8430 I did a review on the CCI .45 ACP shotshells and yes, they will fully cycle in my stock Ruger SR1911 pistol. Here is that review: ruclips.net/video/c3pjG0TEEE8/видео.html
Another excellent video. I had a rat problem in my garage back in the early 2000's when they discovered the dog food stored there. I found the crimped .22LR shot rounds seemed to pack more of a punch than CCI capsule type rounds. I want to say I was using Winchester crimped shot, but it was long ago. I was considering stepping up to a smoothbore designed specifically for .22WMR shotshells (Marlin Model 25MG) but I suppose the rats got the gist and stopped invading my garage. Even with rifling, which spreads those patterns like crazy, those crimped .22LR shotshell did the trick if within 15 feet.
When they were doing construction behind our farm w were overrun with rats. Our neighbor was a NY state pistol champ 😅 I don't know what 22 ammo he was using but he got rid of the problem 😅
Great info! I didn't know Federal made shot shells. Also, a quick note, I've been watching you for years. I subscribed to your channel ages ago and I just noticed RUclips had unsubbed me. Maybe mention that people should check to make sure they are subscribed in one of your videos. Thanks again and HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!!!
Winchester has been making those crimped cartridges for over 100 years and both Winchester and Remington made smooth bore rifles as a "garden gun" for pest control for just about as long .
Always a pleasure big man , Happy Father's day to you , I never made it to fatherhood , so on father's day I have to buy myself a present , I went to the father's day weekend gun show here in Montgomery yesterday and found an unusual item , I walked the tables and went back to the item , and bought it . It turned out to be a N.I.B. Marlington first year production 1894 .45 long colt , 11+ years old made 2011-2012 , I've always had the .44 magnum , the .45-70 , and a couple of years ago the 1894 in .22 magnum , this is my first .45 long colt , I'll let you know how it shoots soon . 100 degrees here yesterday and today , keep your powder dry out there ..
Sometimes its just for fun! You put a smile on my face with this one! Happy Fathers Amigo from one desert dweller to another! Living my best La Vida Loca here in south eastern Arizona
Way back when, these were used at the Aircraft storage Depot AMARC in Arizona. Rattlesnakes could climb the undercarriage legs and nest in the wheel bays. $10 saturday night specials from local pawn shops with .22 snakeshot did the job. After a days shooting the staff had barbequed rattlesnake with a side salad and a cold beer. Ice cream to follow and another cold beer. Good old days.
Thanks for making another great video! I have 1 box of these Federal .22LR shotshells in my ammo can but I haven't shot any yet, I have the H&R 999 revolver with a 6-inch barrel and a Henry lever action rifle... good to know that the realistic effective range is about 6 feet.
Respect earned and God bless all the people making these videos happen.. i think it was maybe two or three years ago now i searched for the .38 detextive special revolver i got from my father years before.. mine is the three inch 38 to your five inch barrel or at least thats how it seemed.. was a good memory to look back on and im glad i found your channel back then.. almost at 300k and I am happy for you but also sad your channel has not got big like some others.. i understand a big part of that is because you do your own thing and although appreciated thie who hashtag others and get other big names in their videos get recommendations for both sets of fans.. i reapect you more for doing your thing but i do think it a good idea to reach out and ask a few other big name "gun-tubers" if they would like to have a day at he range together.. love you either way,,, like a brother not a lover i will add.. cant be too carwful to say summit an upset somwone these days😂😂😂 not you sir, but i know a year from now some leftist will read and be so upset and it will only be because they werent raised or taught about firearms so like i said i feel that sad, for them..😂👍 have a good day and if not now maybe next week or a month from then.. wisging you the best man..❤️
I have to also say I think my father gave me the cowboy bug.. I love modern top of the line guns but revolvers and lever actions and anything with a real wood stock just has a happy and memorable feeling ya know.. sorry to rant on, I have just been enjoying my Sunday after church is all.. yee haw, click bank and go again.. you know what I mean..😂👍👍
I wish most days could be like this.. Ain't no nothing wrong just plinking and enjoying the sun, sometimes even hitting, that half mile out Gong.. But it's the little things in life, That keep us going strong.. So let's keep on keeping on.. Writing gun poetry about one half of a decent day.. I hope I'm not turning liberal, And I hope haven't turned gay.. Hahahahahahahah..💀💀😂😂
Not sure if anyone else makes one, but Henry actually makes a smoothbore version of their H001 rifle for this very application. It's sold as the Henry Garden Gun. I'd find it a bit pricey for something that is only useful with shotshells (it reportedly shoots regularly ammunition horribly), but there may be some demand among farmers and ranchers.
You're right, the Henry Garden Gun is pricey with a retail price of about $500. On top of that a 50-round box of Federal .22 bird shot costs more than a box of some 9mm ammo. I just can't see a big demand for the Garden Gun.
I have my dad's Remington 514 with a Routledge Bore barrel. It has a smooth 24" barrel with the last 12" bored out to .357. you are supposed to only shoots the crimped .22 shotshells and single shot with no mag. Has been used for 3 generations of pest on control in my fmaily
So did my comparison with Federal 25 gr #12 shot and CCI 31 gr also # 12 shot. Used Heritage single action 6.5” barrel; Winchester lever action 20” barrel; and Ruger 10/22 16” (take down), all at 7 yards. By far best result was with the 10/22 using Federal. Did not cycle (didn’t expect it to) and shot was concentrated in 3” group! Best I could get out of (more expensive) CCI isn’t even worth mentioning.
Thanks for the demo mixup98. I have a small 22LR Davies derringer which I bought new in 1984 and is still in good working order. I haven't been camping in years but I still have some CCI shotshells for small snakes and venomous creepy crawlers.
Hello Sir, Happy Father's Day My Friend!!! That's fun plinking right there. By the way, your .22lr lever is gorgeous. You have some of the best shooters in your collection. Stay blessed and cheers to your family!!
I remember grabbing a few boxes of these shells in the crimped shells. When I was a young man and my father at the time would grab a box, hand it to me with his ruger bear cat which I still have btw . And send me to the barn and tell me to whittle down the rats and snakes. "Aaaand feed the cows while I'm there." 😂 I also remember finding a large cotton mouth in the barn one time and I nailed it 3 times on the head from point blank range of about a foot and a half with this shot.. 😮 It bounced off it. 😂 Good thing I always had standard rounds and at the time there seemed to be a surplus and popularity of the long rounds, not long rifle. But longs. I also inherited my father's boy hood hand me down to him, of his Winchester HC 62 A pump. 22 so old it had a browning, instead of a bluing. Still have it too, it accommodates short, long, and long rifle. Many many rabbits and squirrels on that rifle. My very first .22 rifle was a colt stagecoach. Can't find them anymore. I've looked for about 10 years and they just aren't out there. Went through a stupid stage and traded it for something ridiculous. A Honda trail 90.. Underage beer and a whole Lotta stupid went in that trade.. 😂 Happy Father's Day men!
Funny intro....my grandfather was a drunk in his younger years. He got so annoyed by rats in a rundown apartment in Louisville, KY that he shot a 38 revolver through the wall at one of them. Reminds me of your intro...as well as the Rooster Cogburn scene where Rooster shoots at a rat on the floor.
I have some vintage Winchester Super X 22lr shot that is made just like this. Tried it in a revolver, it spread fast. I thought about getting a Henry Garden gun because they’re smooth bore made for shotshells.
A Henry Garden would be great for someone living on a farm or ranch. I don't think I will ever get the opportunity to do a review on the Garden model but I'm glad to hear that Henry is making a smooth bore rifle.
@@mixup98 I had a chance to buy one a while back, but would have just been a novelty- I’m running out of safe space :) so trying to save it for stuff I really want.
It might be fun to have a smooth bore, or flitecontrol wad with these. I've only ever imagined using these for a snake while on horseback, but our horses were trained for gunshots. A slightly tighter pattern at distance would make these immensely better. Thanks for the video. 👍
I'll bet your grandkids hide their toys when you come over, hahahaha. But yeah, they're definitely good for snakes 🐍 or anything small 🐀 you can get really close to. Have an awesome Father's day my friend.
uou might like the henry garden gun. it is a smooth bore 22lr designed to shoot these rounds. it keeps a tighter pattern in the smooth bore because rifling spins the shot causing it to spread out.
I had some of the CCI shot for my .22 when I was a kid. It was unimpressive, and I didn't try it again. But now, I've got one of those Bond Arms derringers that shoots either .45 Colt or 410 shotgun. I found some .45 shot shells at a gun show, and I've got some various .410 shells. I'm planning to compare the two next month when I go camping.
Really fun video! Do you think I could get away with using these on unwanted "critters" in my yard without my neighbors calling the cops? Or does it have to a totally rural setting? I got a farm field across the street, but am I in simi- rural/ semi-suburban setting?
Dep. USM Mixup Cogburn brings the heat. "Now, this is a rat writ, writ for a rat, and this is lawful service thereof." LOVE IT!!! We used to shoot sparrows out of our fruit trees with Remington's version of the crimped shot shells, which boasted "size dust" shot. That was SEVERAL decades back, when people didn't wet themselves over pest control on private property. Fun video. Stay safe out there.
An H&R Trapper revolver was the first pistol I ever shot. It was reliable, inexpensive, and would shoot any kind of .22 cartridge made. Unfortunately, it burned up in a fire.
Lord help me, the missus just ordered a few of these because she loves the squirrel on the box haha!!! 🐿 Excellent video and Happy Father's Day to you, sir!
Speaking of shotshells.... I'd love if you'd pick up one of DoubleTap's Snake shot options and test it out. They run a lightweight wadcutter (full caliber) behind a load of shot, capped by a foil. The result seems to be greatly diminished spreading (typical problem with rifled bores) and the backup of a lightweight wadcutter for being more effective on small game.
For 22 shotshells, the Federal old-style crimped shotshells are a much better value for the money, than the CCI variety - a box of 50 Federal shells, versus a little tray of 10 or 20 CCI shells. Where people run into trouble with the CCI shotshells, is when they try running them through a semiauto pistol, the most notorious being 9 mm Glocks - those shells just don't have enough "oomph" to properly cycle some semiauto pistols - they end up with a misfeed, that little plastic bubble gets broken, and you end up with lead shot dumped all inside your pistol. For doing work on our property during that time of the year when snakes and other critters are active, I'll carry my grandfather's old High Standard 9 shot 22 revolver, loaded with Federal shotshells. I've practiced with it, and know how far away I can be to get an effective pattern and where to aim. And depending on the circumstances, less chance of "collateral property damage" with those 22 shotshells, than with the CCI shotshells I have for my Glock 40 S&W.
One correction, these shells do not impart spin to the shot. The cci plastic cup shells spin but these crimped shells don’t spin the shot when they pass through the rifling.
I have a Browning .22 Lever action. I used the blue capped rat shot and could never hit a thing. Checking on target paper reveled that the pellets went circular around the bulls eye. Switching to a crimped .22 rat shot fixed the problem. I don't shot blue caps any more in my Browning .22. Also in order to feed the lever had to be firmly pushed open for the next shell to get into position to feed into the chamber.
You know I've tried shooting 9mm shot shell out of a S&W EZ thinking the lighter spring would help cycle the ammo. Nope. However, I have had success shooting 45 shot shell out of a 1911.
Fathers Day fun!!!! I'll stick with my .38 shot shells. On a recent note: Mini shot shell adapter arrived for my Maverick 88. 3 boxes of shells have arrived. Haven't tried them yet. Thanks for that review and tips. Also still in love with that custom job on the Sig. Stay cool! All the best. "The JJ" SW Penna.
I'm glad to hear that you received your Opsol adapter and I know that you are going to love shooting those mini shells through your Mossberg. All the best and you also stay cool my friend.
Ever tried DoubleTap Snake Shot loads? They seem to produce vastly improved tighter patterns at range, also have a lightweight wadcutter behind the shot.
@@exothermal.sprocket I just looked at the Double Tap website and their shotshells look very interesting. I might order some and do a review. Thanks for the info.
@@mixup98 You've very welcome! There's so little video data I could find on this product but the one I did, showed very good shot patterns at reasonable range, compared to anything I've seen from CCI.
I did a review on CCI .45 ACP shotshells and I got better patterns out of my Bond Arms derringer with a 2" barrel than I did with a 5" 1911 pistol. Rifling in a barrel will indeed have a big impact on lead pellet patterns. A short barrel is definitely an advantage when using shotshells.
I have used both the crimped end shells as well as the cap shells from CCI. I've used both in an H&R model 929 pistol as well as a Winchester Model 67 Bolt action. I find that in the bolt action rifle the crimped end will get stuck while trying to eject the shell casing but I've noticed in the 929 that none of the shells will get stuck in the chambers of the cylinder. I use the model 929 while mowing while I'm working outside.
I've noticed lately that they are making that shot ammo in larger calibers but the difference is they have bigger shot pellets . Makes me wonder if they will ever put larger lead shot in the 22 LR 🤔
It packs more punch than CCI shot. Carry it when frog gigging. East Texas has water moccasins. Took 3 CCI shot to stop it. One shot with Winchester shot. Even found a box of 45 ACP shot shells that looked like fmj. Worked great in my 1911 but never could find anymore.
Some of the early .22 shotshells were loaded with sand instead of #12 shot. I was told that they were used in gallery guns to ensure that carnival midway target booths would not suffer from a lack of money from giving out too many prizes. The erosive effects on rifling were pretty pronounced after a short time and soon those gallery guns would show up on the market needing only at good reaming to be entirely useful out to 40 feet or more. I used to get a box of these for 50 cents, and shorts, CB and BB caps were 25 cents a box.
I prefer the crimped rat shot shells in my revolvers, but they won’t function in an auto. The CCI capsule rounds will fire in the auto. I have to manually rack the fired case out and chamber the next one but it works. And they are quite effective on snakes.
Nice video; it was fun to watch!.... I was thinking you might prove what I too experience with .22 'shot-shells'; to me, they're nearly worthless (except for taking out dinosaurs! ☺).... I have the plastic-dome CCI's and the Federal's that you used here. I bought them to shoot mice; if I got close enough to hit one, I think the mouse would run off laughing his butt off! The last box/card of CCI's I bought were $12.00 for 20 rounds. I DO mean my Last box! I've shot them out of a revolver and a 1963 Savage single-shot bolt action rifle (my first non-BB- gun, gun that I got when I was 10; still works, and looks, like new).
Didn't know they made a crimp type. The plastic caps jam up in my 2 inch revolvers unless I put a little dot or two of super glue on the crimps. I use the 38 specials.
H&R made inexpensive but quality firearms and I love their old .22 double action revolvers. I also own an H&R Model 922 with an octagon barrel that is almost 100 years old! Here is my video on my 922: ruclips.net/video/EZOUqNOnFuM/видео.html
These seem like they might be useful in a garage. Beyond that, my grandfather swears by .38 shotshells. He keeps a derringer or a snubnose revolver loaded with them for snakes.
Good video. Federal 22 shotshell is tough on the dinosaurs. Winchester, Federal and Cascade International all make crimped 22 LR shotshell, although hard to find. CCI of course makes the shotshell with the plastic capsule. 22 Magnum shotshell has much more punch. Savage smooth bore 22 extends the maximum effective range from six feet to 15 feet. Well done.
Winchester used to make a crimped case ratshot like that. Still have some. Much prefer it to the CCI capsules. Good to know someone is making them that way.
You know I use my wrangler for the same thing with those shells. The rifling in the rifle Does affect the pattern like you say, but it's amazing if you use a garden gun with that same little shell quite the Difference. You should do a video with that same shell, And a garden gun. I think people would really interested in the results they're Impressive. It's a great little tool for removing starlings from your barn without puncturing your roof.
I would love to review a garden gun with these shotshells but unfortunately I wouldn't have any other use for a smoothbore rifle. Maybe a friend or a friend of a friend that might have one that I can borrow and review.
@@mixup98 I have seriously considered buying one myself for starling purposes in the barn . My friend has an old bolt action remington, and it works on squirrels out to 10 yards in his back yard. Not bad.
happened upon this, opening made me giggle.... sorta glad I wasn't drinking coffee still. We used to carry .22 shot for snakes. Wasn't super effective unless you were pretty close. Used an old Native trick that Dad taught us, that apparently began with natives, snakes, and bow and arrows. They tend to follow whatever is closest when provoked, and keep their head locked onto it, be it barrel end, or end of arrow being slowly circled. Pop 'em right the first time that way. Even tho damn things wiggle and squirm and try to strike after they're long dead. Always weirded me out. Family ranch was sage brush, scab rock, and rattlers.
That was made clear in the video. The revolvers patterned significantly better than the rifle did. Maybe some cheap old Jennings might be best. They have short barrels and their rifling is typically pretty weak.
I did not know there were 22lr "Shot Shells that were totally "Sealed. I always thought the capsule bullets were worthless. This is excellent information. Great video as always. Thank you.
The crimped ones have been around loooong before the capped ones. I prefer the capped ones in an automatic pistol because they actually feed, whereas the crimped ones will not.
@wizardofahhhs759 I've yet to see shots shotshells cycle any automatic in any caliber.
@@trevorteague8430 Get yourself a PPQ in .45, they'll cycle.
@@wizardofahhhs759 I'll have to see it to believe it
@@trevorteague8430 I did a review on the CCI .45 ACP shotshells and yes, they will fully cycle in my stock Ruger SR1911 pistol. Here is that review: ruclips.net/video/c3pjG0TEEE8/видео.html
If having fun was a crime, you’d be serving life. Love your content.👍
Another excellent video. I had a rat problem in my garage back in the early 2000's when they discovered the dog food stored there. I found the crimped .22LR shot rounds seemed to pack more of a punch than CCI capsule type rounds. I want to say I was using Winchester crimped shot, but it was long ago.
I was considering stepping up to a smoothbore designed specifically for .22WMR shotshells (Marlin Model 25MG) but I suppose the rats got the gist and stopped invading my garage.
Even with rifling, which spreads those patterns like crazy, those crimped .22LR shotshell did the trick if within 15 feet.
I have part of a box of those Winchester crimped 22lr shot shells from "way back in that last century".
Yeah they have their uses, I used the shot shells to get rid of 2 pigeons in a garage that refused to leave- both were about 15ft up in the rafters
Amazing how effective those are at close ranges.
When they were doing construction behind our farm w were overrun with rats.
Our neighbor was a NY state pistol champ 😅
I don't know what 22 ammo he was using but he got rid of the problem 😅
Happy Father's day Mixup God bless from Kentucky
Happy Father's Day Gents.
Right back atcha!
Same to you my friend!
@@mixup98 Thank you Sir.
Back at ya.
Late 70's my dad got a brick of these. We had fun hunting sparrows in a patch of cedars. Love you Dad!
Great info! I didn't know Federal made shot shells. Also, a quick note, I've been watching you for years. I subscribed to your channel ages ago and I just noticed RUclips had unsubbed me. Maybe mention that people should check to make sure they are subscribed in one of your videos. Thanks again and HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!!!
Winchester has been making those crimped cartridges for over 100 years and both Winchester and Remington made smooth bore rifles as a "garden gun" for pest control for just about as long .
I have an old Remington model 12 that’s smoothbore, effective out to say twenty feet does exactly what it was designed to do too.
Love how you put dirt on your table to protect it from the birdshot! Great idea!!!!
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Always a pleasure big man , Happy Father's day to you ,
I never made it to fatherhood , so on father's day I have to buy myself a present ,
I went to the father's day weekend gun show here in Montgomery yesterday and found an unusual item , I walked the tables and went back to the item , and bought it .
It turned out to be a N.I.B. Marlington first year production 1894 .45 long colt , 11+ years old made 2011-2012 ,
I've always had the .44 magnum , the .45-70 , and a couple of years ago the 1894 in .22 magnum , this is my first .45 long colt ,
I'll let you know how it shoots soon .
100 degrees here yesterday and today , keep your powder dry out there ..
I didn't know I needed a Browning BL-22 until just now! Happy Father's Day sir!
Search the channel. He's got some great videos on it.
Sometimes its just for fun! You put a smile on my face with this one!
Happy Fathers Amigo from one desert dweller to another!
Living my best La Vida Loca here in south eastern Arizona
Way back when, these were used at the Aircraft storage Depot AMARC in Arizona. Rattlesnakes could climb the undercarriage legs and nest in the wheel bays. $10 saturday night specials from local pawn shops with .22 snakeshot did the job. After a days shooting the staff had barbequed rattlesnake with a side salad and a cold beer. Ice cream to follow and another cold beer. Good old days.
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Thanks for making another great video! I have 1 box of these Federal .22LR shotshells in my ammo can but I haven't shot any yet, I have the H&R 999 revolver with a 6-inch barrel and a Henry lever action rifle... good to know that the realistic effective range is about 6 feet.
Respect earned and God bless all the people making these videos happen.. i think it was maybe two or three years ago now i searched for the .38 detextive special revolver i got from my father years before.. mine is the three inch 38 to your five inch barrel or at least thats how it seemed.. was a good memory to look back on and im glad i found your channel back then.. almost at 300k and I am happy for you but also sad your channel has not got big like some others.. i understand a big part of that is because you do your own thing and although appreciated thie who hashtag others and get other big names in their videos get recommendations for both sets of fans.. i reapect you more for doing your thing but i do think it a good idea to reach out and ask a few other big name "gun-tubers" if they would like to have a day at he range together.. love you either way,,, like a brother not a lover i will add.. cant be too carwful to say summit an upset somwone these days😂😂😂 not you sir, but i know a year from now some leftist will read and be so upset and it will only be because they werent raised or taught about firearms so like i said i feel that sad, for them..😂👍 have a good day and if not now maybe next week or a month from then.. wisging you the best man..❤️
I have to also say I think my father gave me the cowboy bug.. I love modern top of the line guns but revolvers and lever actions and anything with a real wood stock just has a happy and memorable feeling ya know.. sorry to rant on, I have just been enjoying my Sunday after church is all.. yee haw, click bank and go again.. you know what I mean..😂👍👍
I wish most days could be like this..
Ain't no nothing wrong just plinking and enjoying the sun,
sometimes even hitting,
that half mile out Gong..
But it's the little things in life,
That keep us going strong..
So let's keep on keeping on..
Writing gun poetry about one half of a decent day..
I hope I'm not turning liberal,
And I hope haven't turned gay..
Hahahahahahahah..💀💀😂😂
Not sure if anyone else makes one, but Henry actually makes a smoothbore version of their H001 rifle for this very application. It's sold as the Henry Garden Gun.
I'd find it a bit pricey for something that is only useful with shotshells (it reportedly shoots regularly ammunition horribly), but there may be some demand among farmers and ranchers.
You're right, the Henry Garden Gun is pricey with a retail price of about $500. On top of that a 50-round box of Federal .22 bird shot costs more than a box of some 9mm ammo. I just can't see a big demand for the Garden Gun.
I have my dad's Remington 514 with a Routledge Bore barrel. It has a smooth 24" barrel with the last 12" bored out to .357. you are supposed to only shoots the crimped .22 shotshells and single shot with no mag. Has been used for 3 generations of pest on control in my fmaily
Very timely review! Just now bought a box of these and a box (20) of CCI shotshells. Will be doing my own side by side comparison.
So did my comparison with Federal 25 gr #12 shot and CCI 31 gr also # 12 shot. Used Heritage single action 6.5” barrel; Winchester lever action 20” barrel; and Ruger 10/22 16” (take down), all at 7 yards.
By far best result was with the 10/22 using Federal. Did not cycle (didn’t expect it to) and shot was concentrated in 3” group! Best I could get out of (more expensive) CCI isn’t even worth mentioning.
I have a full brick of that stuff. I use it in my Remington model 514 Routledge Bore .22lr Shotgun.
Good video, thanks for sharing it.
JT
I carry the CCIs here in NC for snakes when hunting. I think I'll go to the Federals. They are about half the price.Thanks for the great demo.
Thanks for the demo mixup98. I have a small 22LR Davies derringer which I bought new in 1984 and is still in good working order.
I haven't been camping in years but I still have some CCI shotshells for small snakes and venomous creepy crawlers.
Hello Sir, Happy Father's Day My Friend!!!
That's fun plinking right there. By the way, your .22lr lever is gorgeous. You have some of the best shooters in your collection.
Stay blessed and cheers to your family!!
I remember grabbing a few boxes of these shells in the crimped shells. When I was a young man and my father at the time would grab a box, hand it to me with his ruger bear cat which I still have btw . And send me to the barn and tell me to whittle down the rats and snakes. "Aaaand feed the cows while I'm there." 😂
I also remember finding a large cotton mouth in the barn one time and I nailed it 3 times on the head from point blank range of about a foot and a half with this shot.. 😮 It bounced off it. 😂 Good thing I always had standard rounds and at the time there seemed to be a surplus and popularity of the long rounds, not long rifle. But longs. I also inherited my father's boy hood hand me down to him, of his Winchester HC 62 A pump. 22 so old it had a browning, instead of a bluing. Still have it too, it accommodates short, long, and long rifle. Many many rabbits and squirrels on that rifle. My very first .22 rifle was a colt stagecoach. Can't find them anymore. I've looked for about 10 years and they just aren't out there. Went through a stupid stage and traded it for something ridiculous. A Honda trail 90.. Underage beer and a whole Lotta stupid went in that trade.. 😂
Happy Father's Day men!
Funny intro....my grandfather was a drunk in his younger years. He got so annoyed by rats in a rundown apartment in Louisville, KY that he shot a 38 revolver through the wall at one of them. Reminds me of your intro...as well as the Rooster Cogburn scene where Rooster shoots at a rat on the floor.
Happy Father's day, thank you sir for the video 🇺🇲 i put a set of wood grips for single 6 on my wrangler fit perfectly
I have some vintage Winchester Super X 22lr shot that is made just like this. Tried it in a revolver, it spread fast. I thought about getting a Henry Garden gun because they’re smooth bore made for shotshells.
A Henry Garden would be great for someone living on a farm or ranch. I don't think I will ever get the opportunity to do a review on the Garden model but I'm glad to hear that Henry is making a smooth bore rifle.
@@mixup98 I had a chance to buy one a while back, but would have just been a novelty- I’m running out of safe space :) so trying to save it for stuff I really want.
It might be fun to have a smooth bore, or flitecontrol wad with these. I've only ever imagined using these for a snake while on horseback, but our horses were trained for gunshots. A slightly tighter pattern at distance would make these immensely better. Thanks for the video. 👍
Thanks for the video! By the way, that Star Trek entrance is very cool!! 🖖 👍👍
I'll bet your grandkids hide their toys when you come over, hahahaha.
But yeah, they're definitely good for snakes 🐍 or anything small 🐀 you can get really close to.
Have an awesome Father's day my friend.
Happy Father’s Day. I loved the review gonna have to get a box of those for the snakes by my creek here in Georgia
uou might like the henry garden gun. it is a smooth bore 22lr designed to shoot these rounds. it keeps a tighter pattern in the smooth bore because rifling spins the shot causing it to spread out.
I had some of the CCI shot for my .22 when I was a kid. It was unimpressive, and I didn't try it again. But now, I've got one of those Bond Arms derringers that shoots either .45 Colt or 410 shotgun. I found some .45 shot shells at a gun show, and I've got some various .410 shells. I'm planning to compare the two next month when I go camping.
For some reason I always forget how the boosted twist from rifle barrel spreads the shot around. Thanks for the vid.
Happy Fathers Day!
Really fun video! Do you think I could get away with using these on unwanted "critters" in my yard without my neighbors calling the cops? Or does it have to a totally rural setting? I got a farm field across the street, but am I in simi- rural/ semi-suburban setting?
You are without a doubt the most congenial gun guy on RUclips.And a hell of a marksman might I add.
Thank you for the awesome compliments steveelbert. You just made my day.
Dep. USM Mixup Cogburn brings the heat. "Now, this is a rat writ, writ for a rat, and this is lawful service thereof." LOVE IT!!! We used to shoot sparrows out of our fruit trees with Remington's version of the crimped shot shells, which boasted "size dust" shot. That was SEVERAL decades back, when people didn't wet themselves over pest control on private property. Fun video. Stay safe out there.
An H&R Trapper revolver was the first pistol I ever shot. It was reliable, inexpensive, and would shoot any kind of .22 cartridge made. Unfortunately, it burned up in a fire.
I've looked at a similarly designed Model 999 Sportsman, top break. They sure look cool.
Lord help me, the missus just ordered a few of these because she loves the squirrel on the box haha!!! 🐿
Excellent video and Happy Father's Day to you, sir!
Speaking of shotshells.... I'd love if you'd pick up one of DoubleTap's Snake shot options and test it out. They run a lightweight wadcutter (full caliber) behind a load of shot, capped by a foil. The result seems to be greatly diminished spreading (typical problem with rifled bores) and the backup of a lightweight wadcutter for being more effective on small game.
For 22 shotshells, the Federal old-style crimped shotshells are a much better value for the money, than the CCI variety - a box of 50 Federal shells, versus a little tray of 10 or 20 CCI shells.
Where people run into trouble with the CCI shotshells, is when they try running them through a semiauto pistol, the most notorious being 9 mm Glocks - those shells just don't have enough "oomph" to properly cycle some semiauto pistols - they end up with a misfeed, that little plastic bubble gets broken, and you end up with lead shot dumped all inside your pistol.
For doing work on our property during that time of the year when snakes and other critters are active, I'll carry my grandfather's old High Standard 9 shot 22 revolver, loaded with Federal shotshells. I've practiced with it, and know how far away I can be to get an effective pattern and where to aim. And depending on the circumstances, less chance of "collateral property damage" with those 22 shotshells, than with the CCI shotshells I have for my Glock 40 S&W.
I recently saw a video about blister beetles.
By the way, were you shooting at little plastic Cooties?
Love your videos, man.
Your style is unique.
Great video. You served a writ on that rat. That is one scary place where even the dime/dollar store critters become feral.
Such a contrast with 700 Nitro Express over on Kentucky Ballistics. Well done gentlemen. 😊
Why don't you try to borrow a Henry garden gun and see how much it improves the pattern?
Git those mini monsters. Happy Father's Day Deadwood! Thanks for all your posts.
My friend uses that ammo in Alaska on the Mosquitoes.😂
Probably one of those "flock" shooters I heard about.
Funny. Is that a Browning BL-22?
I always enjoy your videos! The crimped shells always did better than the capsule style in my experience! 😎
One correction, these shells do not impart spin to the shot. The cci plastic cup shells spin but these crimped shells don’t spin the shot when they pass through the rifling.
I have a Browning .22 Lever action. I used the blue capped rat shot and could never hit a thing. Checking on target paper reveled that the pellets went circular around the bulls eye. Switching to a crimped .22 rat shot fixed the problem. I don't shot blue caps any more in my Browning .22.
Also in order to feed the lever had to be firmly pushed open for the next shell to get into position to feed into the chamber.
Great video, thanks for sharing info on the Federal shotshells. I much prefer the crimped over the plastic. Happy Fathers Day!
Same to you my friend!
Love those little shells , ya better quit stealing grandbabies toys 😂
Fiocci in Italy used to make these. I remember my dad shooting these out of a .22 lr Winchester pump smoothbore shotgun
I have used crimped .22 shotshells at close range and have found them effective up close ( you gotta think like .22 short...cute,but deadly).
You know I've tried shooting 9mm shot shell out of a S&W EZ thinking the lighter spring would help cycle the ammo. Nope.
However, I have had success shooting 45 shot shell out of a 1911.
Fathers Day fun!!!! I'll stick with my .38 shot shells. On a recent note: Mini shot shell adapter arrived for my Maverick 88. 3 boxes of shells have arrived. Haven't tried them yet. Thanks for that review and tips. Also still in love with that custom job on the Sig. Stay cool! All the best. "The JJ" SW Penna.
I'm glad to hear that you received your Opsol adapter and I know that you are going to love shooting those mini shells through your Mossberg. All the best and you also stay cool my friend.
Ever tried DoubleTap Snake Shot loads? They seem to produce vastly improved tighter patterns at range, also have a lightweight wadcutter behind the shot.
@@exothermal.sprocket I just looked at the Double Tap website and their shotshells look very interesting. I might order some and do a review. Thanks for the info.
@@mixup98 You've very welcome! There's so little video data I could find on this product but the one I did, showed very good shot patterns at reasonable range, compared to anything I've seen from CCI.
Seems counterintuitive but most of the shot rounds have the best patterns in the shortest barrels. Enjoyed the video
I did a review on CCI .45 ACP shotshells and I got better patterns out of my Bond Arms derringer with a 2" barrel than I did with a 5" 1911 pistol. Rifling in a barrel will indeed have a big impact on lead pellet patterns. A short barrel is definitely an advantage when using shotshells.
I really like that design better than CCIs. Love the ol H&R
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I have used both the crimped end shells as well as the cap shells from CCI. I've used both in an H&R model 929 pistol as well as a Winchester Model 67 Bolt action. I find that in the bolt action rifle the crimped end will get stuck while trying to eject the shell casing but I've noticed in the 929 that none of the shells will get stuck in the chambers of the cylinder. I use the model 929 while mowing while I'm working outside.
Henry makes a smooth bore 22LR lever action just for these type of cartridges. I think they call it The Garden Gun.
You're right, Henry does make a smoothbore called the Garden Gun. I would like to have one but the retail price is a little steep at 500 bucks.
In Australia the Garden Gun is 410 Shotgun
I've noticed lately that they are making that shot ammo in larger calibers but the difference is they have bigger shot pellets . Makes me wonder if they will ever put larger lead shot in the 22 LR 🤔
I really enjoy how you "get right into it". Excellent review!
Wonder how the Henry Garden gun would do with these rounds as it was designed for them
Good morning from the Adirondack mountains of New York State
I had someone give me a bag of these a year or so ago , I haven't tried them yet. Now I'll take them next time I go to the outdoor range
It packs more punch than CCI shot. Carry it when frog gigging. East Texas has water moccasins. Took 3 CCI shot to stop it. One shot with Winchester shot.
Even found a box of 45 ACP shot shells that looked like fmj. Worked great in my 1911 but never could find anymore.
Some of the early .22 shotshells were loaded with sand instead of #12 shot. I was told that they were used in gallery guns to ensure that carnival midway target booths would not suffer from a lack of money from giving out too many prizes. The erosive effects on rifling were pretty pronounced after a short time and soon those gallery guns would show up on the market needing only at good reaming to be entirely useful out to 40 feet or more. I used to get a box of these for 50 cents, and shorts, CB and BB caps were 25 cents a box.
Great video. I'll look for a few boxes of that ammo.
Ever had one of those capsule break open in the breech of a repeater? Not fun.
Love your vids allways injoy watching 😮
Those 22 shotshells are great for shooting borer bees! Fun video!
I like the crimped case much better than the plastic cup. Seems to have a touch more power
I really love that Browning BLR .22 LR…..Nice. Just had my Wrangler at the range the other day….fun. Thanks mr. mixup98.
Best opening EVER!
I prefer the crimped rat shot shells in my revolvers, but they won’t function in an auto. The CCI capsule rounds will fire in the auto. I have to manually rack the fired case out and chamber the next one but it works. And they are quite effective on snakes.
I wonder how big of a pattern from an naa mini or heritage barkeep boot.
Nice video; it was fun to watch!.... I was thinking you might prove what I too experience with .22 'shot-shells'; to me, they're nearly worthless (except for taking out dinosaurs! ☺).... I have the plastic-dome CCI's and the Federal's that you used here. I bought them to shoot mice; if I got close enough to hit one, I think the mouse would run off laughing his butt off! The last box/card of CCI's I bought were $12.00 for 20 rounds. I DO mean my Last box! I've shot them out of a revolver and a 1963 Savage single-shot bolt action rifle (my first non-BB- gun, gun that I got when I was 10; still works, and looks, like new).
Intro was crazy cool
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With all the blood thinner I take, the shot shells would probably still do a number on me even at 25 feet. 😮
Didn't know they made a crimp type. The plastic caps jam up in my 2 inch revolvers unless I put a little dot or two of super glue on the crimps. I use the 38 specials.
Have a Mossberg model 340tr smooth bore shoots about the same. had it for about 55 years worked good on Bull frog for the the table out to 10 feet 🇺🇸
Fun times! I love the H&R revolver. I have several of those and an NEF. I always thought they were good quality. To bad they are no longer around.
H&R made inexpensive but quality firearms and I love their old .22 double action revolvers. I also own an H&R Model 922 with an octagon barrel that is almost 100 years old! Here is my video on my 922: ruclips.net/video/EZOUqNOnFuM/видео.html
I do love the #4 cci 357-38 stuff what I carry here in Texas... b blessed bro
As always a good fun video, keep them coming
Those are lots of fun in a smooth bore garden gun. 😎
These seem like they might be useful in a garage. Beyond that, my grandfather swears by .38 shotshells. He keeps a derringer or a snubnose revolver loaded with them for snakes.
i tried winchester & cci shotshells but federal seems good. in 1950s or before some companies made 22 smoothbores.
Good video. Federal 22 shotshell is tough on the dinosaurs. Winchester, Federal and Cascade International all make crimped 22 LR shotshell, although hard to find. CCI of course makes the shotshell with the plastic capsule. 22 Magnum shotshell has much more punch. Savage smooth bore 22 extends the maximum effective range from six feet to 15 feet. Well done.
I don't think I have seen a video where someone tested these from a henry garden gun or one of the old remingtons with the Routledge bore.
Winchester used to make a crimped case ratshot like that. Still have some. Much prefer it to the CCI capsules. Good to know someone is making them that way.
Have a great day Mixup!!
The crimped case shells swell out enough to make extraction difficult. They are especially prone to malfunction in a semiauto.
I think with a smooth bore you would have tighter patterns.
You know I use my wrangler for the same thing with those shells. The rifling in the rifle Does affect the pattern like you say, but it's amazing if you use a garden gun with that same little shell quite the Difference. You should do a video with that same shell, And a garden gun. I think people would really interested in the results they're Impressive. It's a great little tool for removing starlings from your barn without puncturing your roof.
I would love to review a garden gun with these shotshells but unfortunately I wouldn't have any other use for a smoothbore rifle. Maybe a friend or a friend of a friend that might have one that I can borrow and review.
@@mixup98 I have seriously considered buying one myself for starling purposes in the barn . My friend has an old bolt action remington, and it works on squirrels out to 10 yards in his back yard. Not bad.
@@sqhunter65 10 yards is quite impressive. I almost wish I had a barn 👍👍😁😁
Happy Father's Day...really enjoy your videos!
happened upon this, opening made me giggle.... sorta glad I wasn't drinking coffee still. We used to carry .22 shot for snakes. Wasn't super effective unless you were pretty close. Used an old Native trick that Dad taught us, that apparently began with natives, snakes, and bow and arrows. They tend to follow whatever is closest when provoked, and keep their head locked onto it, be it barrel end, or end of arrow being slowly circled. Pop 'em right the first time that way. Even tho damn things wiggle and squirm and try to strike after they're long dead. Always weirded me out. Family ranch was sage brush, scab rock, and rattlers.
I've heard that since the rifling actually causes increased spread, shorter barreled .22s actually provide better performance. Might be worth a try.
That was made clear in the video. The revolvers patterned significantly better than the rifle did.
Maybe some cheap old Jennings might be best. They have short barrels and their rifling is typically pretty weak.
Or just repeal the NFA and get over this stupid firearms restriction nonsense.
I watch old Chuck Conner movies all the time and I like your videos too a new subscriber
Guess I will try a smooth bore 22 I bet it will group well, same problem with the Judge the rifling throws the shot
They work if you can get within their effective range, which is just a little longer than a fly swatter or baseball bat.