Fitting HRE Wheels on my Porsche 992 Carrera S and sum my winter drive | EP 138
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I prefer the OEM wheels but the smile on your face means you made the right choice.
Also not a fan of the new look. Probably these looks will grow with time. Though, if your objective was to make your 992 unique, the mission has been achieved.
Thank you both, Simon and Reinis for contributing to our community. I do think I made a large mistake with the coloring. But it looks brutal, if that is good or bad, don't know. Let me evaluate a couple of months. If you are not already a subscriber, like Reinis, please consider.
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Well your aloud to think that. Even tho your wrong. LOL im kidding. I do like both tho.
In the UK we had a saying, you should not try to gild a lily, Janko, you have tried to gild a lily! You should not suffer. The under-stated Porsche wheels were more beautiful to my eyes.The colour swap may help.
Hi David, you might be on to something, in this case, let me think 🤔 about your reply. As always thanks for contributing.
Cosmetically I think these HRE wheels you picked look really great - much more interesting than the boring OEM wheels.
I think both the HRE and stock look good. But HRE is on another level. IF you are not already, please consider subscribing.
I just watched this video again and it is a gem - a valuable reference and an enjoyable watch. I may not get HRE those beautiful wheels or Ohlin suspension, however my next tyres will be as you suggest. I for one appreciate your time, effort and knowledge Janko, please keep the great content coming - RB
Thanks Roger and we all know your excellence ;-)
Check out Rogers RUclips channel please.
Another great Video Janko. Your the best...But, The OEM wheels look SO MUCH better. Those HRE's look horrible. Only opinion of course 😏
Thanks J.Boy, they might be an American style perhaps.
so lucky to live in Northern California where I rarely even worry about rain, much less snow! I hardly have any water spots in my wheel wells much, less crud in my suspension components or rear exhaust.
Sad to hear, how is vegetation in your area? No rain no green areas right?
But on the other hand, as you said fewer challenges with your car.
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@@JankoLind surprisingly there is a lot of green but for sure we’re in a drought pattern for the last couple of years. But the redwood Forrest is here and seems to be doing well. It’s just not as wet here because a lot of the water comes from the near by mountains. Google WoodsIde California. It’s beautiful here.
I wrote to Nokian from Canada about getting Hakkapeliitta snow tires for my 991.2 and they said soon. I like that you support Scandinavian technology! Let's see if we can convince them to make the 20/21" tires so you have something really special to try next winter.
Looks like you also have Paul Elvstrom blood lines in your family with that sailboat in your driveway. Beautiful! Thank you for sharing your Art of Driving philosophy with the world.
Thanks for your contribution P Kerrin, much appreciated. Sailing takes a more larger part of my time. It is amazing to feel the force of the nature. Let's see what Hakkapeliitta makes...
I see the effort you put in your videos ! keep up the good work Janko !
Thanks, Click JP 516, appreciate all the time you spend on my channel. Take care.
Your Passion for the Brand Porsche Is Superb, we viewers, many of us feel the very same as you do. Porsche GT cars makes you shiver and smile all day a long, keep up the good work Janko. på Svenska, man känner igen sig själv I dina videos, passionen för Porsche, har man haft länge, det är nåt extra att köra Porsche, helt klart:))
It is special to drive a Porsche, everyone that have tried knows what I'm talking about.
Your taste is always impeccable but for the first time you missed the mark on this rim choice IMHO.Sorry.
On my Porsche I always get the tyres and rims balanced centred on a "Roadforce Wheel Balancer" which reads Rim accuracy of manufacture along with wheel balance under actual load at speed via a weight roller at speed on the tyre in rotation along with a whole lot of other great things which makes your rim and tyre to 0 gram perfect balance.I picks how round each tyre is in manufacture so you can be more selective in the tyres you fit to your rims.I found 1 of my recent 4s tyres that I fitted was perfect round in manufacture and required 0 gram weight on the rim as both were perfect.
I use Michelin 4S exclusive on all my cars as they are the best road tyre available currently for everyday use.Love your videos and your passion...so thanks.
Hi Gary,
Thanks for contributing to our community. I'm taking in your comment. let me think this over.
PS4s rocks!
The wheels on the Spyder look very similar to the 991.2 Carrera S wheels which I loved a lot!
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@@JankoLind I remember subscribing to you... or didn't I? anyways., great content Janko!
The OEM wheels if matched with colored Porsche center caps would look awesome in my opinion, but congrats on the new wheels.
Non of the options are bad, if you are not already, please consider subscribing.
I like the wheels you picked but would prefer to simply match the original 20”/21” rims from the factory such that the wheels would fit the OEM tire sizes. Your obviously a wheel expert! What size rims would I spec with HRE to get identical size rims to fit my 2021 Targa 4. I believe my cars wheels from the factory were the same as what was on your 992 originally. I can’t find the actual wheel specs to give HRE to duplicate the OEM wheel sizes from the factory. Plus I could just move my existing OEM tires over to these new rims as they only have 2,000 miles on them so far.
Hi Atlasrex, That's the service HRE provides to their customers. Tell them what you are after and then you will get custom-made wheels for your Targa accordingly. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
Has Michelin announced when they’ll have N-spec tires for the 992 20/21 setup??
No, but I'm learning more about N-spec. Not sure I'm too eager anymore to follow that.
@@JankoLind that doesn’t help me lol NA spec tires are Porsche specific.
The Øhlins for the 911 992 4s are not TÜV approved, pls make sure you don’t get issues with insurance, Porsche Approved option and your regulators. In Denmark the car will not be approved unless there is a TÜV approval.
I’ve got my hre s104sc 21’ wheels today to match with my Aston Martin.
Congratulations
Ohlins R&T are amazing! They are a huge upgrade on my Lexus ISF coming from Bilstein and lowering springs. HRE are sweet wheels congrats😎
I agree Gabe, Öhlins Road and Track is the best you could get. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
I am subscribed already😎
Janko ! i love 911 s all of em except the 996 and all your Vids! ......... sorry i have to ask this Question , what do you think of the new BMW M3/M4 ...any chance of a review from you of a 992,4S V M3/M4? ......you driving both and reviewing....?...........PS we have had some terrible cold weather in UK April/May ....it was like winter was Extended,
I'm not sure I have the knowledge to judge the BMW. Sorry to hear about the cold spring.
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Fantastic video again Janko, i always have to rewind the funny bits, like the reference to massive American ants 😂 . Your passion for the Art of Driving always comes through and makes me want to drive to the furthest shop along a B-road just to get milk like i do most days in my Porsche 🙏🏼😁 great vide, thank you again pal!
Hi Greg, well I try my best to be me and then you get the ants story ;-)
B-roads are the best, keep up the driving.
great advice on balancing the tires....finding someone to do it properly is the problem, they just like to add weights
That's my frustration, Lee. You need to stand beside the worker, sad :-(
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@@JankoLind I think I need to watch everything 🙄
Yes I am subscribed 😄
If there is a colourpoint at the wheel-sidewall , this point has to be placed to the tirevalve . Then are not so many weights needed.
Beautiful wheels thinking of getting the same ones.
I do recommend it! If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
@@JankoLind I am a subscriber. Keep up the great work, you should have way many more subscribers. We appreciate the work you do!
For me unless its purely aesthetics, it would have to be a forged one piece billet alloy wheel, anything less is just a toy wheel. But I fully agree on your road tyre choice, 4s rocks...
Alan they do rock :-)
Unbelievable the Michelin 4S is not available in size 305/30/21 for the rear OEM wheels. 😌
an effect of the pandemic I believe. Michelin is the most popular tires and they are sold out and production is going slow as far as I know.
Many just use the 315/30/21 tires with the 305 wide wheels
I’ve always thought of doing a 17 inch rim on the back and a 16 inch rim in the front on my Datsun 280z... what do you think?? It shouldn’t cause any issues because it’s so analogue and the rear wheels are tied to the dif in the back so... hmmm idk
The Datsun 280z is an amazing car, do it!
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Question regarding adding the Ohlins to the 718 Spyder... I am getting a GT4 soon and the biggest complaint about them from owners on Rennlist (other than needing rear-toe links) is that the suspension is so stiff that it causes the rear-end to skip over bumps. Does Ohlins R/T fix that issue?
Also, I had Ohlin's R/T on my F80 M3 and it was WAY too stiff and way too high spring rates. I hope they didn't make that same mistake with spring rates on the 718 chassis.
YES, Öhlins Road and track fix this issue. On the Spyder / GT4 comfort is increased a lot. I bought the rear-tow links and returned them. Did NOT need it with the Öhlins Road and Track.
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informative and interesting. Thanks Janko
Thanks Stephen for watching.
Good insight...thanks Janko!
Thank you for watching and subscribing to my channel.
Try finding a workshop that will balance your half shafts, hubs and brake discs. You will notice the difference!
Hi Jim, I believe you, the breaks are not the 992 party peace.
I Janko. Specking my 992GTS in June and have driven C2S
I want a manual car but can’t make up my mind two wheel or 4 wheel drive going to be a daily driver and living in rural Buckinghamshire. UK. With a trip or two to the french Alps. The 4 seems logical but really only want a 2 wheel drive car. With the right tyres is the 2 a better option? Thanks Jeremy.
Hi Jeremy,
You are on the right track with an RWD GTS. My guess is that it will have PTW, and together with proper winter tires you will manage the alps if you drive carefully.
Love the wheels !
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@@JankoLind I’m definitely subbed. Have been following your channel for sometime. I have a deposit in for a 2022 manual carrera s . I hope to receive in august. My build was based on your videos. So thank you for your passion and your witty content. Its quite enjoyable
Thanks for publishing amazing videos.What nordic wintertyres would you recommend for the 992?
Not sure wish the available sizes there are but Michelin X-ice north 4 studded is amazing. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
Prefer the spyder HRE look and the stock wheel I guess. Ohlins blend of comfort and control is unsurpassed in my experience. Are they good on my 991.2 GTS , there's a thought
YES, don't hesitate to go with Öhlins Road and Track. It increases the comfort and the connection to your car. Congratulations on your 991.2 GTS. IF you are not already, please consider subscribing.
Hi Janko, I love your videos and love your passion for Porsche. I’m planning to get my first 911 and I’m looking forward to upcoming 992 GTS cabriolet manual. Since you are so much embedded in Porsche world, do you have any idea of launch time and what you think manual vs pdk
Manual is easy and the GTS will arrive in Jun. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
The OEM are nice. But the HRE are extraordinary! Wonderful! Petrolheads choice ☺️.
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I’m not sure about the design of the wheels but the stans is perfect.
Do you know if Öhlins only offer the more expensive TTX damper to Porsche 718 GT4 or also the base R&T?
I've asked Öhlins... If you are not already please consider subscribing.
But do these larger wheels make the car ride a lot stiffer on the freeway or around town? How often do you track this brand new beautiful car? Changing to these huge rims sounds a little like something I would have done when I talked my Dad out of air conditioning when he bought a new 1970 911T because the top speed was reduced by five mph.
Does HRE make rims that are identical to the 20” and 21” OEM wheels and which would fit the OEM tire sizes from the factory?
Hi Atlasrex,
All HRE wheels are custom-made for the customers. Give a reseller a call and they will help you configure your car. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
Yessssssssss
Agree
@@JankoLind Can we get more footage of the Spyder? I would love to see more moving shots of it driving around. Its absolutely perfect with the HRE's!
Awaiting your full review of the upgraded ohlins suspension. Thanks for sharing on road comfort observations. Are you on Ohlins recommended default stifness settings on the new dempers or have you went for more comfort (to put your observation on comfort in context)? Did you also set up the 992's alignment differently to the the stock?
The Öhlins Road and Track have 24 adjustments where 24 (turn anti clock vise to the end) is the most comfortable. When I evaluated I started with 24 and works up to 5. In 24 the car is very comfortable but for my taste losses a bit in the cornering. I end up on a daily driver at 10-14 klick.
My Spyder is set to 9 klick. Stock alignment worked perfectly.
I'm waiting to collect my 911 carrera 2 base this summer and it make's me sad every time I watch your videos and you highlight how important PTV is :(
I'm sorry but it is a great option and should be standard. Don't worry the base model is a great car to drive, I hope you have seen my review?
@@JankoLind unless your on a race track your car will corner well beyond your stomach’s ability to run around a corner. Who is actually taking corners on the street at ridiculous limits of the basic suspension? Your car will far exceed your driving ability unless your a pro race car driver- even without vectoring - and you will have more money in your pocket instead of Porsche’s .
@@JankoLind Thank you for your answer. Sure, I've seen your review of the base and I'm glad it seems like a lot of fun too :) Also, I think the nice thing about the base is the feeling that every corner was your own achievement, not the car doing it for you with PTV, PDCC, 4x4, rear wheel steering etc. ;) I'm not going to race my car on track days, just pure daily driving, so I hope the base is enough. Unfortunately, I can't afford the price difference and upgrade to S - frankly, I can barely afford the base Cayman, but I said to myself YOLO and decided to visit my local dealer to catch my dreams :D
@@MacKac89 all these options all seem so critical while ordering a Porsche and I find after I get the car there is not an option that I have on the car or that I lemented not ordering that causes any concerns. Same with the colors.
All the reviews like Janko are car fanatics and most drive on tracks like he does and their passion is to go around the same track 1/10 of a second faster than the last time and all these performance options matter. I spent the last four days on a Treffin in Scottsdale Arizona with 200 Porsche owners and we took driving trips over the four days and all the cars from GT to base Caymans surprisingly were just fine on all the driving adventures and most of the time the speed was 40-50 mph- something called traffic laws. Six cars at once got tickets at the same time- at the last Porsche club event in Utah and the tickets were for going 60 in a 40mph zone. I ordered the Base Targa 4 that is 5/10’s of a second slower than the 992 Targa S and spent the $18,000 I saved on some fun options instead. Porsche is like a drug dealer with all these endless options - all over priced but not too insanely over priced and they suck us into adding more and more of these options that really don’t make that big a difference - be it seats or Burmeister stereo or ptv or rear wheel steering - all emotional rather than reality in my opinion.
I rarely play the stereo at hyper volume, I use my phone for navigating, have the windows open a lot, and travel around corners no faster than the Honda or Lexus suv in front of my car or behind my car. But I enjoy every minute of how it feels on the road and the quality of the interior and the way it looks on the road.
You will love your base Carrera ans you will even get to hear the engine at top rpm for more than 2 seconds like the GTS or turbo owners… and your car is more comfortable on the road everyday as well. You could have spent twice or three times the money on a porsche and the on the road enjoyment is maybe 5% in most cases.
Another great video. Thank you Janko
Thanks you Laurent :-)
Great wheels, may be darker finish would make them even better. Same wheels non modular would look awesome too in silver . Don’t know if you can make changes , Great video as always 👍👍
Thanks, Mohsin, I wish I've selected silver on the black areas. IF you are not already please consider subscribing.
@@JankoLind great stuff , always like your videos 👍👍👍
Gorgeous wheels and car. I am jealous. Thanks for sharing. I have taken delivery of my 992 targa 4S with manual transmission last month and I am seriously considering the wheel and tires set up, and also the new shorter springs. Quick question, can you confirm the summer tires sizes for front & rear along with rim sizes and offsets. Also if you could share some more info about the new springs/shocks and how can I order them. Again very informative and I would only consider your recommendations over all other reviewers. Your honesty, taste, style and performance preferences matches mine. Keep up the great work and hopefully get to meet you one day if you decide to pay us a visit in the US in the future. Mark Qandil
Mark, you need to find your Öhlins reseller and then just say you need the same setup as me.
lots of disclaimers Janko but educational nevertheless - and I do love the wheels :)
I know Ziggy, too many disclaimers but there are rules to follow and I get a lot of questions wish I try to answer in this video and the previous.
@@JankoLind still great vid
Does fitting larger wheels modify the readings of your odometer and speedometer? Or do they rub on the back side of the wheel well?
I have no rub and I have not tested the speedometer. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
Amazing video again👍👍👍👍👍
👌👍😁
I love the passion
Me to 😂
Very nice! I am considering a similar setup. Would like to get some information before hand, if you don't mind.
1) Does your car come with Sports PASM & Front Axle Lift?
2) Do you get any height sensor errors/faults after lowering?
3) Do the wheels rub the fenders on uneven roads, after lowering the car with bigger and more aggressive offset wheels?
4) What are the offset for both front & rear wheels?
5) What is the drop in height for the Ohlins suspension? 15mm for both front & rear?
Thanks! :)
Hi J T,
1) Sport PASM YES lift no, not needed.
2) No Öhlins Racing have a PASM defeat system wish you buy separately.
3) No rubbing whatsoever.
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Does fitting larger diameter tires confuse these measurements if the car is calibrated for 20” and 21” wheels? Did it ride more stiffly and harder with these larger wheels and tires? Or are these tires even more low profile such that the final total diameter is the same as 20” and 21” rims and tires? I was told that even the 19” and 20” wheels and tires are the same total diameter as the optional 20” and 21” wheel and tires but the difference is taken up by more height on the rubber tire on the smaller rim set.
The diameter is close to the same. Dose only affect the handling positively with increased traction.
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@@JankoLind already subscribed. What about not having memory buttons on the passenger seat, and no voice announcement on the map system if a car costing over $150,000 plus? Also I still can’t figure out how to get my garage door opener programmed into the car. I have a 2021 Targa 4 - love the car but no one mentions these little issues.
And why doesn’t the shifter push forward for drive and backwards for reverse? Is this an odd German backwards brain sort of thing? And the hand sensor on the front hatch - I find myself waving my hand all over 🤚 the front hatch looking like a slightly intoxicated fellow trying to get the hatch to pop open. After two months still cannot determine where to wave my hand or how high or how fast etc. to get the darn hatch to pop open. And the door handles - also make you feel stupid as you try to get the handles to lock. Apple car play is annoying also -
I love the car on the road - but they could keep all this fancy stuff that hardly works off the car.
I would trade all that silly feature stuff for a little more hp or maybe an actual clock instead of the chrono that keeps counting around and around for no reason -
Also two body panels - the drivers door at the bottom is not flush with the bottom edge of the body snd the right corner of tender insect to the corner of the front hatch is high - both of which I am taking the car into the dealer to see if they can fix this sloppy body work.
You would think th Le car would not leave the factory with poor fitting body panels -.
It is not a religious icon - just a car it seems after all.
Which euromaster do you prefer? Seems to be many shops :)
I go to Kungenskurva.
Grymma videos! Jag är svensk som bor i USA och börjar känna suget efter en 992 i svart, mycket tackvare dina videos! Beräknar kunna köpa en runt hösten, vad tror du, ska man vänta till 992.2 versionen släpps i mitt fall? Vet inte riktigt när den släpps?
Hej Lukas,
Svårt för mig att avgöra hur din situation är. Helt avhängt vilken modell som du önskar köpa. 992.2 kommer 2022 sent alt 2023 H1. Är du prenumerant?
Unique it is
It is :-)
Hello, I would like to ask how much is your rear wheel data 305 or 315😁😁😁😁😁
I believe that is in the video...
@@JankoLind 3Q
Nice, but definitely not worth the extra over the brilliantly colored OEM. And I own a set of HREs
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Does this one just have PASM or PASM S (-10mm)? Did u try both? is the -10mm very harsh?
I have the -10mm PASM Sport on my 992 Carrera S, and it is not harsh at all. I tried also the standard PASM, but there is not much difference.
@@DaViVa Do you also have PDCC? Did try both "Normal" and "Sports" Mode with the different suspension?
Thank you both Gray and DaViVa for contributing to our community. BIG THANKS!
In regards to the PDCC and the PASM+ none of those options makes the 992 harsh, tested all of them. Original my car is lowered -10mm with PASM +.
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@@JankoLind what would you suggest for a Turbo S as Daily Driver?
Beautiful 😍
Thanks!
Spyder looks better :D
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Great vidéo and thoughts but why Always asking for subscribing in the comment section ?
17% of all my viewers are not subscribers and I thought perhaps the people who comment on my video might consider subscribing and I would like to invite them to our community. It is also hard for me to tell if the person writing is a subscriber or not, I could only view that if the personal settings are set to be public. Also, I think it is a nice ending to a comment. If you are not a subscriber, please consider.
@@JankoLind ok, now I understand. 😉
17 percent IS a very good score go and Ask some other youtubers.
Omg. Terrible wheel. Stock si much more style for that car.
new wheels are so bad-looking