And At Least Six With Chubby Cheeks | Doug Wilson
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this episode of Blog & Mablog, Pastor Doug Wilson begins a series of letters to a fictional niece about the relationship between the sexes.
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"Paul says that women who turn aside after Satan are women who
Avoid marriage,
Avoid having babies,
And who avoid the domestic arts.
And all God’s people said yikes."
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“Marriage is a vocation not a scrap booking exercise.” That comment left no survivors.
I thought that was a pretty silly comment by Doug. What in all tarnation is so wrong with traipsing around Europe right after getting married? I reckon you can get pregnant in Paris just as well as in Moscow. I bet Doug has been to Europe...maybe he even let his wife come along.
Oof for real
Haha ooof
Met my wife when she was 15 (I was 17). Married her when she was 21 (I was 23). 7 kids later and I could not love her more. She is my joy! She has been a stay-at-home mom for many years. Our first daughter is now 18 and we are fully confident that the Godly young man she's dating will likely be our first son-in-law... and I'll likely have chubby-cheek'd grandbabies before I reach 50. May God be so kind to me. Flipping today's culture on its head gives me great joy.
7 kids, you slackers ;)
@@cosmictreason2242 lol I know, sorry 🤣🤣🤣
Awwwww ♥️♥️♥️♥️🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 marriage goals right there! I’m only 1 kid deep, and 10 years into marriage. I hope to have a full nest as well though. The grandparent aspect seems like such an extra blessing! ♥️
@@cosmictreason2242 It’s a full basketball team with 2 subs, and 2 coaches! Or if they had 1 more kid, it could be 2 full teams!!! 😂♥️🙏🏽
As a mother of six children (all had somewhat chubby cheeks!), I can appreciate it. I have made my "career" being a mother, even after 5 years of college and a B.S. degree later in education. I appreciate my role as wife and mother more. It is fruitful. Even though I enjoyed teaching my students in middle school, I FAR more enjoy home educating my six children at home, keeping my home and celebrating memories with my family. I enjoy having time with my husband vs. rushing around this way and that to jobs and activities. If our younger women would look to the older women (as in Titus 2), the older women could share the FULFILLMENT in mothering and keeping a home and the younger women wouldn't run off to find the next worldly fulfilling thing. Titus 2 mentorship is pretty much absent in the church today. That's why Romans 1 is winning.
Wow you are remarkable!!!
If I could find a woman like you I’ll get married tomorrow.
Few younger women want to talk to older women … most of them think they have arrived and BELIEVE they need to teach all other women
@@glo9547 your right Gloria, I think the pride of life as stated in 1 John 2:15 is the fundamental problem as well.
I notice you haven't any videos yet on your channel mentioning the fulfillment aspect you note here. Maybe time to consider an addition? Maybe if you mentioned to Canon Press or another ministry (like I'll Be Honest? Seems consistent with their "earthy" style videos) if could create videos of older women doing just that. Maybe you could be an interview on this for a start? Just ideas to consider
Very well said! I’m only on round 1 of mothering, but everything you said rings true for me too. The experience and the fulfillment it brings is absolutely unmeasurable against anything else. I get quite sad when I see Christian mothers talking about “when baby turns 2 I’m going back to work”. That sentence shocks my heart every time… and my mind.
And about the Titus 2 mentoring… you are SPOT ON!! Where is it in the churches today??! The older women seem completely uninterested in the commands put on them by God. Leaving young mothers like me, to try and sort out up from down, on our own. I’ve already vowed to never do that myself when I’m older, and I’m always there when a younger woman/girl approaches me to chat. I want to be there for them, and I am. Hopefully more so as more of the teens around me begin to step into adulthood more.
But what can when do as far as the older women not stepping up? Surely there’s a way to effect change??! Right?… ♥️🙏🏽♥️
I talk about having four children, and people are shocked 😂😂 Also, by the grace of God I'm here at home, cooking and cleaning and child-rearing, because the world did it's best to train me in the opposite direction!
I have 6 daughters and 1 son.... and it's just the greatest thing ever! Big families bring big blessings forever!!
My wife enjoys listening to these podcasts.
After 30+ years of marriage, she's not saying "Yikes!" And she's raised daughters who look forward to marrying and having babies. (which is good. I think we're ready for grandkids ;) )
Hear hear brother! 20 years married now and my 18-year-old daughter is dating a good Godly young man for 8 months now. Let's give it time to figure all things out, but the future looks promising!!
Gid convicted me of these in early marriage… and my husband was convicted some time later, But we have been able to raise all six of our daughters believing these truths, the importance of marriage being a priority for young people, and babies being a priority in marriage, and home making a priority for married women. I know they were young men out there being raised to their own godly standards, God is changing hearts back to once known truths.
"Notice how you wanna talk about Deborah all of the sudden"
I like that quote. I see that so much among women and even many men these days.
I wanna talk about why Deborah wasn't a political or priestly leader of Israel as you see she was not sitting in the gate, or in the temple, but up a hill under a tree somewhere. Let us not forget that "every man did what was right in his own eyes." The Bible doesn't comment on the fact that Jephthah was WRONG to sacrifice his daughter, it is implied, and likewise it doesn't comment on the impropriety of Deborah acting as a judge, because it's occurring in the context of everyone doing what was right in their own eyes and it being a time in Israel when men were shamefully unwilling to take up the responsibility to lead. :)
I’ve always talked about Deborah! But not in some crazy feminist way. Rather I find the judgment on a nation being marked with a woman needing to lead, to be fascinating!
"the odds may be good but the goods are odd" 😂🤣🤣
HE’S DOING IT! Letters to a niece
My ex girlfriend needs these.
My eight year old son wants to have five kids. I always encourage him when he brings that up. I tell him I want grand and great-grand kids.
advise him not to think he can limit it to JUST 5. That is already our culture infecting his thinking, that we get to decide the number
My daughter, a senior in high school, is seen as weird by her peers for wanting to be a homemaker with seven kids. Even many of the ‘Christian’ ones say they don’t want kids because it’ll ruin their bodies and they want to ‘focus on themselves’. And there’s a lot of pressure for her to name a career she wants to pursue when she doesn’t want to be a career woman. Many of her friends, coaches and teachers think she’s wasting her talents.
They are the ones wasting their lives. Go your daughter! God bless her
I can still remember a day a little more than 15 years ago in Sunday school in a relatively small, conservative Lutheran chuch. The pastor was attempting to cover Biblical manhood and womanhood. He did ok with the Biblical manhood information, receiving more then a couple positive head nods (Lutheran equivalent to a Baptist "Amen"). But, when he got into the Biblical womanhood and the whole helper-respecter-submitter thing, well, lets just say that it did not go so smoothly and that whole "soft" feminism aspect had some decidedly hard angles and sharp edges. And, I am guessing that any young man in the attendance that day likely had at least a passing thought that the world was already strongly present and the distinctions between the "Christian" women next to him were not so intrinsically different from those he encountered outside the church and so what were these young men to do. What exactly? Oh, and the stoney silence of the husbands in attendance that day put Mount Rushmore to shame, sadly.
That’s horrible, and the exact problem. They fear man, in this case their wife, more than they fear God. To kindly, respectfully, teach your wife God’s truth, is just the most wonderful gift a woman could receive!! Please teach us! Please step up and guide us!! I don’t want to drive this ship alone.
I’m a 21 year old reformed very Christian man, and would love absolutely nothing more than to settle down and have a family. Where are all these untaken Christian young women? I have never met or seen any.
Are you me?
Most aren't reformed
@@TommyGunzzz true
Same. Doug talks about Christian women wondering where all the Christian men are, but in my experience it is the opposite. While I don't know every Christian woman in my town, the ones that I do know don't seem any different than non Christians and I feel no urge to pursue them :(
“Notice how you wanna start talking about Deborah all of a sudden.” 😂
I do hope there’s a book borne of these series…. ‘Nephews and Nieces’ or ‘Oh Dearest Nephews and Cousins’ 👍
Niblings?
@@Charles.Wright 🚨👍🚨
I got it wrong all these years. I finally realized just how true the words are - "all scripture is God-breathed'". We don't come up with a good idea. We follow God's word. My prayer is that others see this as well. And i pray that God, being rich in mercy will give me an opportunity to do things His way.
"Climate-" ...the fact that 'divorce' automatically enters the mindset when discussing relationships/marriage....
When you and your partner are not Christ centered first then yeah the climate is off already. Twice divorced and only now learning what it means for marriage. To love a wife like Christ loves the church. You sacrifice and sometimes she hurts you and don't love you back. You turn to God for strength to endure. When a man loves like that then a woman who is also God centered will want to submit because she loves to be cherished like that. tlTogether they glorify God. That's called Tuesday...
It's hard for women to get men to join them at the table of marriage when the dinner provided is Chinese takeout and the dinner discussion is about how she shouldn't have to cook.
Michael starling your best friend zack just liked your post....found you
I am thankful for this semi-continuation of the Dear Dawson series.
Yaaaay something for the ladies!🎉🎉
My wife, me, and a married couple who are friends with us, have kinda fallen backwards into the leadership of a growing group of Christian young people. Once this "Dear Darla" series is finished, combined with the "Dear Dawson" series, I hope it will become the subject of our next dozen meetings or so.
You're needed in that role
Wonderful timely message
I’m really curious about your views on Christian celibacy. Maybe as a post script to this series?
When you and your partner are not Christ centered first then yeah the climate is off already. Only now learning what it means for a God centered marriage. To love a wife like Christ loves the church. You sacrifice and sometimes she hurts you and doesn't love you back. You turn to God for strength to endure and be paitent. You can not fix her but is her choice and only through Christ. When a man loves like this then a woman who is also God centered will want to submit because she will be cherished. Then together they will glorify God.
Yikes, indeed. First!
Oh boy. Uncle Doug has brought the HEAT. Lol.
Kudos sir. Kudos!
Love this content. Such a clear explanation of the current social dating courting climate. Wise young women will enlist their fathers in their quest for family
"If you use the restroom, leave a dime on the counter." 😆😆😆 I have got to remember to watch all the way to the end.
Our culture sees kids as a burden. The church has let that attitude seep into our unspoken beliefs. Most of my friends think people with 4 or more kids are crazy.😔
I now think people with less than 13 are probably sinfully using birth control
Sad isn't it?
My wife and I have our first child on the way and we both wish we'd started sooner and got married sooner..and we're only 26.
Fantastic as usual. Your pen is a blessing, Doug.
Though I agree with the overall premise, the context of the Scripture cited (1 Timothy 5:14-15), would not seem to be a good support, as it deals with widows. Specifically those who would have begun receiving support from the church and then decided they wanted to get married and/or used the support to be lazy. Thus they dishonor Christ, give Satan an opportunity for reproach. Also, cannot ignore the last portion of 1 Corinthians 7.
That said...I do believe there is a large number who will say they desire to get married, but when the opportunity comes along, they suddenly get cold feet. And as mentioned, this points to a culture, and more critically a church, that fails to uphold marriage and fails to prepare the growing generation for their greatest opportunity to serve and honor Christ, in marriage and the home.
Beautiful. Now all I need is to find such a woman...
Hah, my thoughts exactly! Hearing Doug speak on this topic is really a bittersweet experience. You can't help but feel like he's describing an alien species when discussing the ideal wife/mother.
I was born and raised in a conservative church with deeply loving and devout parents, and yet as I now enter my early 30's I still haven't encountered a young single woman whom both I found attractive and shared my fundamental values (especially those pertaining to gender roles - shocker). Our society and culture, including that of Christians, is just that far gone. It's sad.
As for myself, I've more or less resigned to my forever-bachelor fate at this point. I'd genuinely have more luck blowing my savings on the lottery than ever coming across a truly virtuous and godly woman in my life before I reach 60. But hey, it just goes to show how close to collapse our civilization is and thus how needed us men are soon going to be when the especially dark times arrive. Therefore, these days, I only pray that the Lord, if He will not provide me a wife, will at least bless me with the discipline and courage necessary to support and help the weak and unfortunate in my circle, especially those of the faith, when those fiery trials finally come.
@@MrKiddyIcarus Guys want someone who look like a model.
@@MrKiddyIcarus I feel for you. But, seriously...what are your priorities? I noticed you put attractiveness first in your description of your dream woman and shared values second. I find it difficult to believe that there are NO "aliens" in your neighborhood.
Top priority: find a woman who is willing to be taught from God's word by you. If she is teachable, seeking wisdom from God, and is willing to rely on you as her head, then you can overcome 1000 other difficulties. Everyone will bring some worldly ideas and some sinful habits into marriage. Make sure you start with the correct tools to deal with the issues.
@@chickenheart896 Those two items were included in an arbitrary order. In truth, if I was compelled to marry someone against my will, the one quality I would hope they possessed above all others is faith in Christ.
That said, however, to suggest that physical attractiveness (especially speaking from the man's perspective) is not something that should be featured high on one's list of priorities when considering a potential spouse is, frankly, foolish. Marriage is a sexual union as much as it is a spiritual one, and to join one's self to a person whom they would not feel naturally driven to regularly copulate with (especially after the honeymoon phase has passed) is a prime recipe for a rocky relationship in the long run.
And "Well, believe it" is all I can say in response to your skepticism over the sheer lack of available ladies in my area who meet those minimal criteria. Perhaps it's a different story in your neck of the woods, which would simply render that an abnormality more than anything else, but in my case it really is a metaphorical desert. Furthermore, I'm not the only guy within my local congregation facing this predicament. There are multiple other young men here confronting the same fate as I with decreasingly little hope of circumstances changing as the nation continues to circle the drain. It's unfortunate, certainly, but we all must make do with the lot which God has set us up with in the end, exhibiting humility and patience along the way.
Yikes! Brilliantly said on matters of first principles
Wow, it sounds like someone has been paying attention to the culture! We have family members in their twenties. Two have no intention of marrying until 30, if ever. In the mean time, they are traveling. Both grew up in a Christian home.
We all, young and old, need to recalibrate our lives to keep Christ and His kingdom first in our plans, not the individual pleasing of the self.
Sounds like someone in my family, marrying late with no intention of having children.
I agree we shouldn't live for ourselves but instead live for God and His kingdom. But, even call talks about some having the gift of singleness. So, how do we know if someone is single and childless because of God's plan for their life?
@@thewoolpack In the case of my relatives, they openly tell us they have no intention of marrying in the near future, despite having relationships. It is one thing to seek to find a spouse, serving God in singleness while waiting. It is completely different to spend time dating people they admit they couldn't marry and indulging much of their free time in traveling for pleasure(not missions or charity). To them, marriage comes after you have really lived life, not the beginning of adult life.
@@eurekahope5310 Oh well, yea I wasn't talking about that. I was thinking of someone who is open to both marriage and singleness, but is just being faithful to God and where He leads them. Which could be a life of singleness, or a life of marriage.
@@thewoolpack gift of celibacy. Big difference. Many are single and in sin. Some are burdened with singleness. If one burns with passion, then it is better for them to marry.
Y’all should have Joel Salatin in Man Rampant.
The 1950s and 1960s culture did not give women many choices: be a secretary or teacher or nurse until you marry and have babies. Then be a housewife. My father refused to support my college aspirations seeing it only as an expensive way for me to find a husband. Now we are at the opposite extreme. Have a career, live with someone, don't have babies. Can we find some middle ground? I valued both my career and my family. One provided intellectual stimulation, the other fed my heart.
Wilson's daughters are educated and published authors. I agree with you that too many people go extreme one way or another rather than keeping their eyes on Christ.
There's plenty of intellectual stimulation in raising children (well).
@@NikkiSchumacherOfficial They also teach. And have webinars. And videos with dad.
Doug has never advocated for preventing the education of girls.
@@davmatheophilus159 I have raised two children plus I am the stay at home grandparent for 3 grandsons while my daughter is at work. It has its challenges but it is NOT intellectual challenging. I have a doctorate. I know the difference.
And where do these churches full of single women exist lol. Seems like that's the hard one.
Right? Every church I've been to single men outnumber single women 5 to 1
I'm not sure about being "full" of single women. I guess I'm technically the only 'younger' single woman in my church that has a lot of families, older folks, and no single men.
@@crunchy90433 lol that's been my exact observation as well, both in the congregation I'm currently a member of as well as the various ones I've visited in my lifetime. My guess is that they're all too busy chasing the dream of becoming discount men in the workplace to bother gathering with a group of people who adhere to a faith which teaches that being a career-boss as a woman maybe isn't the most expedient thing. In other words, feminism strikes again!
I got a friend that tells me there is a sea of women out there single and eager for a guy like you. I'm like where and why do you know this you married man of 3 kids... smh. either butter for my bread or I am blind.
New from Canon, dating app lol.
I worked with a boy (dynamic, easy going, Instagram account 🤠) 4 years ago that told me "he married his best friend" during the day he told me episodes 😳 I told him I am too conservative, narrow minded and too straight for this "marriage" 😂 he used words that more applied to a fake gay marriage than a relationship between a man & a woman
I love the patriarchy.. Being childless, not by my own choice, I've dreamed of being a homemaker..
It hurts to read that. know that I’m sure you are a mother to many in your circle. It takes a village to raise kids and know that your unfulfilled longing doesn’t go unseen by God. Hugs
If you truly want to experience having children, there is always the option of adoption.
@@vanessaburdine4865 Please don't spread unsound "wisdom". "It takes a village to raise children" is not biblical in the slightest. Matter of fact, that theology will destroy your children. Blessings in Christ.
@@jeremyrothrock6163 All I’m saying is that her presence in church loving children there has real affect on them. I am so grateful for the other women at church who love my kids and pay attention to them. I wasn’t trying to say anything more than that.
I'm way over the hill now Jeremy..I'll be Sarahs Age in 17 years😅🤣.. And we trust me adoption fell through but in retrospect, the Lord has helped us to love and nurture nephews and nieces and yes and church family children, who's parents were struggling. We are content and the Lord is forever faithful.
And a woman who answers that way will get the attention of a godly man. I don’t often hear that, let me tell you
Well done Doug 👌👏👏👏👏👏
Some had turned away to follow Satan and these young widows had gone after sensuality apart from marriage and they were idle. So Paul counsels younger widows to marry as a protection from sexual immorality and idleness. It is not a sin to not marry if one keeps themselves from sexual sin and being a busy body. Doug makes it sound like the sin was in refusing to marry. That was not their sin. Singleness is not a sin.
A modern woman has more in common with a premodern man than her foremothers.
It would be great if Tim Pool had you on his show!
He would die from all of the qualifications he would want to make. The lack of opportunity to sit on fences would destroy the poor guy
I've thought the same, people will have to spam tim.
Yikes
Yikes
AMEN!!!
I am happily married and sixty years old. I love Jesus but my wife and I got married late, and never considered children. Now what?
Plenty of children need adoption!
Disciple young believers or foster or adopt.
AMEN ❤️
Woah!!
What happened to Dawson? I can’t keep up with the Wilson’s fictional universe
He ran for the hills.
Dawson graduated Uncle Doug’s School of Manliness and evolved into the GigaChad
@@cosmictreason2242 But he never married. Remained a lonely Chadite for the rest of his life.
@@chickenheart896 it’s been a few weeks. Kinda weird to say an 18 year old “never married.” You’re trying too hard to be contrarian
@@cosmictreason2242 After a few weeks of Doug's terrifying instruction on how awful marriage is going to be, it is not a stretch to predict Dawson's determination to eschew the married estate and make like a hermit.
I'm an only child, in part, because my mother was the youngest of 8 children. Being picked on a lot, and dishing it out as well, my mother said she did not want to put up with the nonsense her parents did.
Add to the fact that I was a C-Section. If my parents had more children, they would have been C-Sections. That was not my mother's idea of fun.
Further, my mother was rH negative. Back in the 1960s, children 2, 3, etc. were at risk for serious birth defects.
Because I was an only child, I had all of my parents' attention and resources. I got private music lessons. I learned about the art of management of a Fortune 50 company by listening to my father's co-workers. Several of his co-workers were attorneys and encouraged me to become a lawyer.
Because I was an only child, I was pushed to excel at school. That led to my attending a prestigious university.
I'm glad you're happily adjusted. I do need to correct a bit. My mother was RH negative and was given a shot to protect her future children-- 1948 .
I delivered my 4th child by C section and my fifth by natural childbirth at home.
Single child families are possible but far from ideal. They often lead to entitled, insecure overachievers. The parents just plain look at the kid too much. Not healthy.
@@YSLRD as an only child, I totally agree and can attest that it can also have the opposite effect as you have no buffer relationships between you and your parent's potential struggles at home. I became my mother's confidant at 12 years old and that was extremely unhealthy and burdensome. I also either had to see a lot of things I shouldn't or be alone in order to not see them while still knowing they were going on. Not every family is graced with multiple children but I will forever believe that it is healthy, necessary, and entirely intended for children to have siblings.
People want to walk into relationship as though they spent 20 years building it or no flaws allowed. The relationship is a seed God is ready to grow but you got to quit looking at the seed with all the dirt and muck around it. Instead what it can become IN CHRIST. Christ needs to be the center of your life first, prior to starting a relationship. Unless you become a believe wihil in one, thats different (and congrats new brother or sister!!). Not get right with God if and when I get what i want.
Ooh that's a really great metaphor. I'm gonna steal that some time. The phrasing I've used before is a lot less poetic. A young engaged woman once complained about some irritating behaviors of her fiancé. I asked her "Have you ever considered the fact that maybe he isn't great at being a husband at the moment because he's never done it before? It's a brand new endeavor, he'll try his best, but it's gonna take some time? And at the same time...have you ever considered that maybe you suck at being a wife because you have never done it before also? Remember humility. You both want to be good at this. But you are also both completely inexperienced at it."
Husbands don’t come pre-sanctified. Marriage is one of the biggest sources of sanctification if both are serious about their faith.
@@troutslayer19 sanctification is the process of becoming holy through the Holy Spirit till we are glorified with Christ. Going through sanctification with a spouse is a greater privilege in my opinion as they become one flesh. If they are not aligned with God first and/or have not taken the time to know if they are on the same path in life then there will be very hard times ahead. As marriage should go beyond feelings.
I love these podcasts… but there’s definitely no command for anyone male or female to get married. I think anyone who reads 1 Tim 5 will see Pastor Doug may have overstepped on that one. 1 cor 7 is a great encouragement to those who both want to and don’t want to marry. If anyone can learn self control, let them be unmarried if they wish and live undistracted from the Lord in their work and life
Nope, 1 Cor 7 is not talking about singleness but celibacy. The Biblical model is that if you're asexual and aromantic, then don't get married. But if you have desires, that is God's message to you that you should get married, so work toward that.
Darla isn't a very millennial name. Try Emily or Abby.
I think if he’s talking to a 17-22 year old, it’s actually GenZ, so you need an “ee” ending name. Haley, Kylie, Macy, Lacey, Gracie, Sydney, Bailey, Remi, Janey, Maddy, etc
Please don't take scripture out of context and purposefully misinterpret it. 1Tim5.
Par for the course.
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Attractive women don't exist in church. Everyone knows that. You can ask anyone you like.
That's not true. They're just married
There are attractive women in every corner of the earth. Hogwash.
😂. You might be attracted to the wrong type of girl. Churches tend to have feminine women, if you are into blue hair, overweight, masculine types, you might find it better outside of church.
This man is a master manipulator and gaslighter.
Waffle house and Doug
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