In a timeline, stats, comparables, etc. all data points - Mahomes is way ahead of Brady. Brady didn't win his first 3 SBs because of him. He won them because of his defense. It's like the rooster taking credit for the sun coming up.
@@Patrick-kg8vu exactly what you said. I turned your circular logic around on you and you don't even realize it 😂. Because crowing about Brady winning that so called head to head means that you should think Eli is better than both Mahomes and Brady by your logic. Fun fact: Alex Smith is undefeated against Tom Brady....so I guess he's better too. What I said is a fact though, unless you think Nick Foles and Eli Manning are better than Tom Brady. You are definitely the one with circular logic.
@@TheGridironYT Mahomes was obviously the best player on the field that day. Absolutely zero protection. The two most amazing throws I've ever seen a QB make was in that game and both dropped.
Yes it’s very much debatable. Tom won three super bowls faster than Mahomes did (first four seasons as a starter at the age of 27). You could bring up stats, but the NFL has changed a lot since 2000. Tom Brady’s season stat totals went up as the years went on just like every other QB in the league. TDs and yards attract more eyeballs and more money for the NFL. They’ve changed the game toward that end a lot.
@@Bluntsmoke501 Yes, it has. Tom led the league in TDs in 2002 with 28. Now QBs have to be in the high 30s to 40s to lead the league. Tom did it again in 2021 with 43. Boosting offensive stats is a monetary goal of the league.
I mean there was only 5 years between Montana and Brady…not to mention greats in between like Steve Young and Dan Marino who were “supposed” to surpass Montana but never got the rings to prove it.
@@fuzionhyperMarino's career basically overlapped the entirety of Montana's. I'm not sure I would consider him "between" even though he came on the scene a few years later. It's like Peyton Manning (1998-2015) and Drew Brees (2001-2020). Brett Favre is more of a "between" QB.
Talent wise I wouldn't say by far. Prime regular season Rodgers was something to behold. That's why he has 4 MVPs and is right there with Pat for a lot of efficiency metrics. So I would say Mahomes and Rodgers are in a league of their own as far as talent goes. But Mahomes has all of the intangibles on top of it that Rodgers doesn't have, which puts him clearly over the top as the better overall QB.
Just for hypothetical funs.. could you imagine if you could add Randy Moss to the team the Chiefs have right now? Without a doubt they would go undefeated and win the Superbowl. It wouldn't even be fair.
true but tyreek better than jj also patriots defense was really good too, and brady bascially had a 50 td season almost 5000 yards and undeafeated too. Brady winning the mvp of that season means ddifferent, means that chiefs wouldnt go undefeated with moss, or brady, combination of offense and defense@@MrWeezeloner
Brady fans are really too butthurt in response to Mahomes praise. Ive never seen someone do the things Pat is doing and have so much people have a reaction as if what hes doing is not that crazy lol. there is no way to undermine what he has done and not sound completely foolish. what he has done exceeds the reasons people give as to why he is doing these things. the different era talks, the qbs can actually get hit back then talks etc etc. the man was an offsides and field goal away from 6 straight super bowl appearances😂 the man has won 3 rings and 2 mvps in his first 7 years, only players to have ever done that played other American sports ☠that is completely nuts. and he is not even close to being done. just sit back and watch the show
@@rcdesigns even if u feel jordan is better. He is not "exponentially" better. That just sounds foolish and youre clearly being biased. Lebron has done things that jordan has never done and vice versa so idk what makes you think theres some wide gap. Thats your emotions talking
Pat may not be the goat yet, but he will be even if he stays at the same level he is rn. That's the amazing part of this, he is going to get even better.
People always wonder what Mahomes will be like when he can’t scramble anymore. Well, while he’s the best in the league at off schedule plays…he also happens to be the best in the league from the pocket. So probably, he’ll be fine…
Mahomes is absolutely on his way to being the 🐐. Comparing his historical start to everyone else there's no comparison and he's only 28. As a football fan of 17 years and seeing other great QBs during that time, Mahomes immediately jumped out as a freak when he started in 2018, almost like he was playing a completely different game than other QBs. I know as a Chiefs fan that I appear biased because he's in my team, but even if Mahomes was on a different team and was still having this level of success I'd still see him as the undisputed best player in the NFL and a potential 🐐.
Dads who played baseball mlb or not who have pitching sons should consider training them to be quarterbacks. Look at Russell Wilson’s baseball background. It helped make crazy throws before Mahomes came on the scene. Or in the same seasons. It actually made people take them both for granted the fact that there were two guys who had those skills in the nfl at the same time creating the new era of QBs. If people are training their kids early in this stuff because they have the blueprint from Mahomes then the next gen will be coming for his records. All you need is a gifted athlete trained at the highest level with a photographic memory…. Hmm maybe it won’t happen for a long time! 😂
For those of you crying about how Brady beat Mahomes in the playoffs, here's a list of quarterbacks that beat Brady in the playoffs: Joe Flacco (twice) Nick Foles (in a Super Bowl) Eli Manning (in 2 Super Bowls) Peyton Manning (3 times) Jake Plummer Dak Prescott Mark Sanchez Matthew Stafford Ryan Tannehill Guess all those guys are better than Brady, huh. And for those of you who will inevitably argue that Peyton Manning had a subpar regular-season record against Brady, *_so does Brady against Mahomes._*
ok but you kinda overlooked brady cuz 1. he won 3 superbowls in 4 years(the first 4 of his career, or starting position at least) and 2.Brady got better as he got older winning 4 superbowls and the 16-0 season with like 4 14-2 seasons, patrick mahomes has to keep his consistency if he wants to become the goat, but I think its really likely he will.
Imagine if he started in 2017, Dee Ford wasnt offsides, both pro bowl tackles hadnt been injured, and they won against the Bengals in OT. He could have 7 Superbowls by now. In 2017 wouldve been a toss up but they still had hunt, kelce and hill. Matt Ryan isnt the biggest threat. If both pro bowl tackles werent injured in 2020, im sure it would have truly been a game against the Bucs. In 2021,The 5th one would have been alot tougher against ADonald/Von Miller. Ironically, they would have went against the Rams both times in 2018 and 2021. Needless to say. if Mahomes is starting, never count them out to win it all!!!!
Yeah guys Patrick mahomes will go down the best of all time and the fact that they are in the position to three peat is absolutely crazy!!!!!! And having Andy Reid and Travis Kelce and Chris Jones doesn't hurt that's what makes denistys
They were saying the same thing with terry bradshaw and joe Montana. Whenever Brady started his legacy, its really impossible to name the "greatest of all time" for a sport thats constantly evolving and changing.
FACTS- also as a sport gains more popularity, there are more even future athletes competing to get in the league, which means the overall skill level will keep increasing across the board in the NFL.
i think patrick is one of the best qbs to play in the nfl, but its very hard for me due to the media bias and reffing bias, against hes one of the best, but i cant ignore all the insane zero holding calls in three superbowls for the chiefs. i just dont know what to think of his winning capability, also alot of fans never agreed that tom was the best, i know i sure didnt, and many would say brady was overall helped by refs which may definitely be true, so assuming what i am saying is true, it doesnt make patrick the outlier, the problem for me is that it makes it very hard for me to 'rank' players as far as the best goes, when you such exterior factors.
Brady fans will always move the goalposts. If mahomes get 8 Superbowls, then it'll be oh Mahomes never beat Brady in the playoffs. Even though Brady never beat Eli, and they will say oh that doesn't matter, Eli's and Bradys' careers aren't comparable, so it doesn't. They will always find or say something.
That first game against the Broncos? OP made it sound like he had a bad game. (0 TD, 1 INT) Mahomes was playing with Chiefs backups vs Denver's starters. Mahomes literally drug the team to an unexpected win. Albert Wilson had 10 receptions for 147 yards (40% of his season total) and got a contract with Dolphins for 3yrs $24M...
Astonishing amazing unbelievable good 👍 wow hes so intelligent 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 can have all athletic ability in world but putting together athletic and decision making is thats it then he run hes total package in QB
He is rank number one in the nfl and won the superbowl with one of the worst teams in the league. Tom Brady fan boys don’t want Mahomes to pats up their boy. Give Mahomes more time to eat. He will surpass Brady.
Tom Brady was great for 20 year straight. Patrick so far has been great for 6 year straight. How will Patrick play when ages catches up to him? It easy to be on top of the world when youth is on your side.
@@michaeludeze8470 Barry Bonds is arguably the best baseball player ever, you could also argue Ken Griffey Jr as well. These two players have never won a championship; so to what extend do rings mean? Bill Russell has 11 rings, but the NBA in the 60s had few teams and the games looked like a pick up game at the Y.
@@millabasset1710In the NHL there's very little debate that Wayne Gretzky (who won 4 rings) is the best player ever, despite Henri Richard winning 11 times-in a league with only 6 teams. Gretzky won the MVP 9 times in his first 10 NHL seasons, and has a list of all-time league records that dwarfs any other player in the history of any of the Big Four sports-Jordan, Bonds, whoever. They're all team sports, so measuring _team_ success as part of _individual_ accomplishments is unfounded. I wish Brady fans could grasp that.
Mahomes is miles away from Brady. He’s already had a hall of fame career… he needs to have two more and win five more super bowls to be considered the greatest.
Hes top 8ish in terms of peak accomplishments. (Stuff like mvp and rings) Probably the best per game statistical quarterback ever. He can make throws that maybe 6 other quarterbacks ive seen could also make. And for plays in general, like a scramble chained into an insane throw, Josh Allen is the only other qb where I’d bet on it. He also avoids negative plays markably better than any other dude that could make the throws he makes except Rodgers. Hes maybe the best playoff performer Ever. Brady’s longevity and consistency is is even closer to matched by 2 athletes neither of which play football. Regardless of when or if he’ll pass Brady I’d say he’s easily top 5, with Brady, Peyton, Montana & Unitas
Lifelong chiefs fan - Brady is the goat. Pat is on a great pace to become his equal, but right now idk why people aren’t saying it like this! Mahomes realistically might catch THE GOAT, NOT is Mahomes already the goat ?? 🥴 Lastly, Mahomes is more talented and has the insane mental side of the game too… but what Brady’s mental acuity did to elevate his game with less physical ability can’t be slept on. If Mahomes gets the only 3 peat of all time then I’ll acknowledge he is WAY closer to TB12 at just 30 years old… watch and see GO CHIEFS
No one will ever match Brady tho. His longevity alone makes his stats insurmountable. He wasn't just good his first 10 years; he was great. Then he was great the 10 years after that, and then another couple after that too just for icing on the cake lol Year for year Mahomes is ludicrous, but he's gonna get dumped somewhere in his 30's just because of injuries and his playstyle alone. Plus the league is shying more and more away from passing this decade so the stats are dropping. That rookie outting is still his best statline.
Tedy Bruschi even said that Mahomes is better than Tom was through 6 seasons. Yall are scared that Mahomes is gonna pass Tommy Cheats 😂 Tommy Cheats < Eli Manning x2
Funny thing is that the Tom Brady was Mahomes kryptonite. Another funny things is that Arron Rogers and Mahomes plays the say, the biggest difference I see is that Mahomes will take a hit. For this reason I see Mahomes as he ages, he will endure more pain. Rogers used to run all over the place like Mahomes but if you see if over his last 5 years, he stays in the pocket more than ever. I see Mahomes as his speed reduces, as injury catches up, I see him playing like Rogers. Tom Brady had a very good, one of the best O-lines in the NFL.
its insane that we are having this conversation. its insane NOT to have this conversation. i dono but as a chiefs fan im here for all of it. good and bad
You guys remember when guys like Stephen A were mad they didn’t take DeShaun? Shannon Sharpe said he didn’t like the pick(though Skip Baseless did, oddly). I remember 🤡
Dont want to jinx it, but hes never lost a season before the AFC championship. 6 straight AFC championship appearances. Right now brady is the most accomplished QB no doubt. But that wont last and theres no arguing any of that.
I just remembered when Brady and company beat Mahomes in the AFC championship. Then Brady had company beat Mahomes in the Superbowl. That can never be changed. So, I see Mahomes as a great player. And, I do see Mahomes being the greatest QB to ever do it. Hard to be The Goat after Brady beat him twice in meaningful games. I am a die hard Steelers fan. But, I love QBs and I love watching him play. Not when playing my team. Lol. At the end of his career he will go down as the best to ever do it.
Mahomes first 7 years is better than Brady's best 7 years. The Chiefs were capable of winning a Superbowl without a good defense, twice, The Patriots never did it without a top 10 defense.
To be fair, if Mahomes has won three Super Bowls in six years in the next six years, he should have another three Super Bowls. He still not even be 35 years old you easily beat Brady.
I'm a chiefs fan for 50 years and I gotta tell you mahomas is great. Brady is the goat and will be for as long as it takes. If mahomas racks up a few more rings then it will be time to have this discussion. Mahomas is a helluva lot more talented than Brady and seems to have that killer focus of Brady. But it's just to early to have this conversation.
@@johnbrauchi1377 can't say that I do believe in miracles. When you look at the almost with exception of the offsides penalty against Dee Ford. And the injured offensive line against Tampa. KC could have had 5 Superbowl wins in the last 5 years. Most of the so called experts said after Hill left that mahomas would struggle. I don't think they would need a miracle. The good news, if mahomas stays healthy and Reid sticks around for a few more years who knows.
@TheGridironYT Numbers back that take up. At this pace, If Mahomes plays till he's 35 he will have surpassed Brady in every stat including rings assuming there's not a 10 year gap between rings 3 and 4 😂😂😂
@millabasset1710 Lol yes he absolutely would have. He's really actually better than anything the league has ever seen before and numbers back that up. Every generation has their all stars, Maxx Crosby, Von Miller, Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, Derwin James, etc were/are all certified stars on defense for KCs divisional rivals while Mahomes was KCs starter. We wont even talk about all the elite talent he's faced outside the division 😂😂😂, you can stay right in the AFC West and get a very clear picture of what's going on in the NFL. The Chiefs own the entire league. That's just a fact until somebody beats them in a playoff/SB game again. Cry about it.
Stronger arm than Brady, a better scrambler than Brady, a better runner than Brady, more original in his passing than Brady, he now has a great offensive line where he doesn't have to scramble as much. He's only 28, Mahomes may not get 7 rings but, he will come close. The thing though, he's not going to play until he's 45 years old so, I doubt that he will break any of Brady's regular season records but, you never know!
At the same age Patrick is a far better QB. Tom Brady had a long career where he became great. We will see how Mahomes does later in his career. Right now its still Brady.
I'm a die hard Chiefs fan and I do think Mahomes is a more athletic and talented QB than Brady, but Mahomes isn't the GOAT yet. If he stays healthy and Andy sticks around for as long as he can then I think it's just a matter of time. Just imagine if Dee Ford wasn't offsides in the AFC Championship game against Brady, Mahomes would already have 4. And if our O-line wasn't all hurt and banged up he'd have 5. So, yeah, Mahomes is special.
The one people don't understand is Mahomes played baseball!!! That's how he throws the football side-armded.....and now everyone is copying what he does!¡!!!
Mahomes is Houdini for real he is magical and in missouri we love him brittney and the 2 young ones Chiefs kingdom Mahomes is the goat 🐐🐐🐐 time for the 3 peat
Maholmes aint the goat until he lasts a long time and wins throughout multiple eras. Brady led the league in TDs with 26 one season in the early 2000s. Now the leaders are in the 40s for TDs. In 2020, Brady had 40 Tds and 4,633 yards. If the rules change in fifteen years, and Maholmes win an SB with leading stats in that new era, then he is cometition.
Mahomes will probably be better than Brady all time. But inevitably, someone else is going to come along and take the title for themselves. Records are meant to be broken. And the NFL is destined for longer seasons.
It remains to be seen. With all the help Mahomes and the chiefs have received from the referees it’s obvious that the NFL and referees planned to have the Chiefs win and are trying to make him into something he’s not. Brady has proved his GOAT status from his college days. Mahomes is a sandlot player who slinged many sandlot plays. The Bills proved that Mahomes is still a want to be Goat and faced with a talented team like the bills all his running around in the backfield is only powered by his great receiving core. Remember Brady has completed more touchdowns to so many different receivers that Brady and his arm have been then Standard of quarterback efficiency and excellence!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brady led the league in TDs in his 2nd year as a starter with pass catchers that were made from grocery baggers. Maholmes has Kelce and Rice and a bunch of athletic receivers and all they do is blame receivers.
One of Brady’s most impressive stats is that he threw a TD to more unique individual players than any QB in history by a MILE. He had that record well before he went to the Bucs, so he did it with one team. He could have made any receiver in the league into a Pro-bowler.
How Good Was Tom Brady Actually?
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Mahomes would spit on your video for that mistake
He was a cheater.
In a timeline, stats, comparables, etc. all data points - Mahomes is way ahead of Brady. Brady didn't win his first 3 SBs because of him. He won them because of his defense. It's like the rooster taking credit for the sun coming up.
Brady is one of the greatest quarterbacks. His highlight reel is not really thrilling though.
The star
Everyone saying that Brady beat Mahomes in the Superbowl. What they mean is that Brady lost 3 superbowls to worse quarterbacks than Mahomes lost to.
Lmao also Mahomes wasn’t on defense defending Brady either
The circular logic in that sentence is insane haha. Wouldn’t that make Mahomes not as good as Eli Manning? Eli never lost to Tom in the SB.
@@Patrick-kg8vu exactly what you said. I turned your circular logic around on you and you don't even realize it 😂. Because crowing about Brady winning that so called head to head means that you should think Eli is better than both Mahomes and Brady by your logic. Fun fact: Alex Smith is undefeated against Tom Brady....so I guess he's better too. What I said is a fact though, unless you think Nick Foles and Eli Manning are better than Tom Brady. You are definitely the one with circular logic.
@@TheGridironYT Mahomes was obviously the best player on the field that day. Absolutely zero protection. The two most amazing throws I've ever seen a QB make was in that game and both dropped.
What they mean is that, if it wasn't for Brady, Mahomes would be tie to him at 5 rings.
Mahomes is better than Brady through his first 7 years that’s not debatable
That’s facts
Yes it’s very much debatable. Tom won three super bowls faster than Mahomes did (first four seasons as a starter at the age of 27). You could bring up stats, but the NFL has changed a lot since 2000. Tom Brady’s season stat totals went up as the years went on just like every other QB in the league. TDs and yards attract more eyeballs and more money for the NFL. They’ve changed the game toward that end a lot.
@@Patrick-kg8vu hasn’t changed that much
@@Bluntsmoke501 Yes, it has. Tom led the league in TDs in 2002 with 28. Now QBs have to be in the high 30s to 40s to lead the league. Tom did it again in 2021 with 43. Boosting offensive stats is a monetary goal of the league.
@@Patrick-kg8vu u can keep moving the goalposts all u want bro. Mahomes is just better in his early career 🤷♂️. Far more raw talent than tom as well
absolutely crazy nfl went straight from brady to mahomes
Facts
I mean there was only 5 years between Montana and Brady…not to mention greats in between like Steve Young and Dan Marino who were “supposed” to surpass Montana but never got the rings to prove it.
There's honestly a reason for it haha
There's honestly a reason for it haha
@@fuzionhyperMarino's career basically overlapped the entirety of Montana's. I'm not sure I would consider him "between" even though he came on the scene a few years later. It's like Peyton Manning (1998-2015) and Drew Brees (2001-2020). Brett Favre is more of a "between" QB.
Mahomes is by far the most talented QB of all time
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Talent wise I wouldn't say by far. Prime regular season Rodgers was something to behold. That's why he has 4 MVPs and is right there with Pat for a lot of efficiency metrics. So I would say Mahomes and Rodgers are in a league of their own as far as talent goes. But Mahomes has all of the intangibles on top of it that Rodgers doesn't have, which puts him clearly over the top as the better overall QB.
@@jesseaustin4089 Jimmy Johnson told Patrick Mahomes he is the best he's ever seen.
but not the best
Worst start to the 2024 season let’s see how that’ll play out lil bro
Left off 2018 OPOY in addition to MVP, the 5,097 Passing Yard, 50 Passing TD season.
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Yeah everyone always forgets the opoy
Don’t forget about Tom Brady’s 50TD season
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Was it Brady's first season as a starter? Because Mahomes' WAS. My point was that Mahomes was 2018 MVP & OPOY.
Just for hypothetical funs.. could you imagine if you could add Randy Moss to the team the Chiefs have right now? Without a doubt they would go undefeated and win the Superbowl. It wouldn't even be fair.
Tru that. They had to bench Kadarius to lessen the drops from these receivers
tyreek hill better than randy moss imo
LOL, you don't know ball then. Reek isn't even better than tim brown, marvin harrison, AB, julio or megatron, never mind moss🤣🤣🤣@@foosh553
@@foosh553 I'm a big Tyreek Hill fan but Randy Moss > Tyreek Hill.
true but tyreek better than jj also patriots defense was really good too, and brady bascially had a 50 td season almost 5000 yards and undeafeated too. Brady winning the mvp of that season means ddifferent, means that chiefs wouldnt go undefeated with moss, or brady, combination of offense and defense@@MrWeezeloner
….and Mahomes did it without a coach getting caught cheating at least 3 separate times!!
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AMEN!!!!!!!! I've been saying that for YEARS!!!
@@tammyf.7864keep going 😂😂
@@aymerickverin2523 I can, you know. All...day! 🤣🤣🤣
@@tammyf.7864 keep going
Best there ever was. The best there ever will be.
And no one will be able to say otherwise once the threepeat is complete.
Tru the 3peat gonna change the convo
@@TheGridironYT 31-9
Brady better
Worst start to the season rn and you glaze him lil bro
Brady fans are really too butthurt in response to Mahomes praise. Ive never seen someone do the things Pat is doing and have so much people have a reaction as if what hes doing is not that crazy lol. there is no way to undermine what he has done and not sound completely foolish. what he has done exceeds the reasons people give as to why he is doing these things. the different era talks, the qbs can actually get hit back then talks etc etc. the man was an offsides and field goal away from 6 straight super bowl appearances😂 the man has won 3 rings and 2 mvps in his first 7 years, only players to have ever done that played other American sports ☠that is completely nuts. and he is not even close to being done. just sit back and watch the show
Brady fans the new Jordan fans
@@TheGridironYT Maybe, but I honestly think Mahomes is the new Jordan
Texas TECH. Not A&M.
@@TheGridironYThey now, Jordan is exponentially better than Bron. Mahomes IS Jordan. Brady is Bron. Taking his talents to Tampa with the super team.
@@rcdesigns even if u feel jordan is better. He is not "exponentially" better. That just sounds foolish and youre clearly being biased. Lebron has done things that jordan has never done and vice versa so idk what makes you think theres some wide gap. Thats your emotions talking
Pat may not be the goat yet, but he will be even if he stays at the same level he is rn. That's the amazing part of this, he is going to get even better.
Tru especially if he adapts as he gets older and stays away from injury
@@TheGridironYT 31-9
@@TheGridironYTDon’t forget how bad he has been since 2023 LOL 😂
Mahomes played for Texas Tech University not Texas A&M - but still a great video!!
How Bout Those World Champion CHIEFS!!!
Good callout. Completely missed that
Yeah that was terrible. Had to turn off the video after that.
Nobody cares soy boy. @@baca1105
Well, Tom Brady has said over and over again that Patrick is one of the GOATS. So... There's that.
Dam when he say that?
@@TheGridironYT Never
Throw 7 seasons, Mahomes is ready on the Mount Rushmore of QB’s 1. Brady 2. Mahomes 3. Montana 4. Peyton Manning
I could see it
I wish and hope that Mahomes will never get severe injury throughout his career.
Same
Same🤞🤞
People always wonder what Mahomes will be like when he can’t scramble anymore. Well, while he’s the best in the league at off schedule plays…he also happens to be the best in the league from the pocket. So probably, he’ll be fine…
Yea he should be good as long as they keep investing in the offensive line
Mahomes is absolutely on his way to being the 🐐. Comparing his historical start to everyone else there's no comparison and he's only 28. As a football fan of 17 years and seeing other great QBs during that time, Mahomes immediately jumped out as a freak when he started in 2018, almost like he was playing a completely different game than other QBs. I know as a Chiefs fan that I appear biased because he's in my team, but even if Mahomes was on a different team and was still having this level of success I'd still see him as the undisputed best player in the NFL and a potential 🐐.
💯 him and the Chiefs are the next Brady and Pats
@@TheGridironYT Well be better than the Patriots because unlike them we don't cheat, the Chiefs just go out there and win.
@@KCFan-DJ2OK any proof ?
@@aymerickverin2523Not how it works my dude. The burden of proof is on the one who claims that somebody _is_ cheating. Innocent until proven guilty.
@@dfp_01 not how it works my dude, as long you don't have any proof to me, shut your mouth
Dads who played baseball mlb or not who have pitching sons should consider training them to be quarterbacks. Look at Russell Wilson’s baseball background. It helped make crazy throws before Mahomes came on the scene. Or in the same seasons. It actually made people take them both for granted the fact that there were two guys who had those skills in the nfl at the same time creating the new era of QBs. If people are training their kids early in this stuff because they have the blueprint from Mahomes then the next gen will be coming for his records. All you need is a gifted athlete trained at the highest level with a photographic memory…. Hmm maybe it won’t happen for a long time! 😂
😂 yea that’s a lot to ask for
For those of you crying about how Brady beat Mahomes in the playoffs, here's a list of quarterbacks that beat Brady in the playoffs:
Joe Flacco (twice)
Nick Foles (in a Super Bowl)
Eli Manning (in 2 Super Bowls)
Peyton Manning (3 times)
Jake Plummer
Dak Prescott
Mark Sanchez
Matthew Stafford
Ryan Tannehill
Guess all those guys are better than Brady, huh. And for those of you who will inevitably argue that Peyton Manning had a subpar regular-season record against Brady, *_so does Brady against Mahomes._*
And that’s why Eli Manning is the only true GOAT
He should’ve been the starter in 2017 for the playoffs but Andy is loyal to his players
Facts but thats chiefs culture now
Man, can you imagine? They lost super close with Smith under center, Mahomes might've made yet another AFC championship
ok but you kinda overlooked brady cuz 1. he won 3 superbowls in 4 years(the first 4 of his career, or starting position at least)
and 2.Brady got better as he got older winning 4 superbowls and the 16-0 season with like 4 14-2 seasons, patrick mahomes has to keep his consistency if he wants to become the goat, but I think its really likely he will.
Tru but what about the tuck rule
what does that even mean brady also had 3sb in like year 11
Patrick Mahomes… THE BEST THERE WAS, THE BEST THERE IS, AND THE BEST THERE EVER WILL BE. !!!!!
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I see what you did there. You're right, he's the MJ of football
Brady is a living legend and so is Mahomes. I just love Chiefs ❤💛 Mahomes is so good that it is amusing to watch him!
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I like Patrick Mahomes.
He’s not too bad
You have to acknowledge him having one of the best HC’s to ever live
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Imagine if he started in 2017, Dee Ford wasnt offsides, both pro bowl tackles hadnt been injured, and they won against the Bengals in OT. He could have 7 Superbowls by now. In 2017 wouldve been a toss up but they still had hunt, kelce and hill. Matt Ryan isnt the biggest threat. If both pro bowl tackles werent injured in 2020, im sure it would have truly been a game against the Bucs. In 2021,The 5th one would have been alot tougher against ADonald/Von Miller. Ironically, they would have went against the Rams both times in 2018 and 2021. Needless to say. if Mahomes is starting, never count them out to win it all!!!!
Tru can’t wait for Mahomes Kermit frog revenge this season
Yeah guys Patrick mahomes will go down the best of all time and the fact that they are in the position to three peat is absolutely crazy!!!!!! And having Andy Reid and Travis Kelce and Chris Jones doesn't hurt that's what makes denistys
Tru even Brady had Bill and Gronk
That is what they said about Gabriel.
They were saying the same thing with terry bradshaw and joe Montana. Whenever Brady started his legacy, its really impossible to name the "greatest of all time" for a sport thats constantly evolving and changing.
FACTS- also as a sport gains more popularity, there are more even future athletes competing to get in the league, which means the overall skill level will keep increasing across the board in the NFL.
All that stuff is ancient data!! We are in a complete new area.
i think patrick is one of the best qbs to play in the nfl, but its very hard for me due to the media bias and reffing bias, against hes one of the best, but i cant ignore all the insane zero holding calls in three superbowls for the chiefs. i just dont know what to think of his winning capability, also alot of fans never agreed that tom was the best, i know i sure didnt, and many would say brady was overall helped by refs which may definitely be true, so assuming what i am saying is true, it doesnt make patrick the outlier, the problem for me is that it makes it very hard for me to 'rank' players as far as the best goes, when you such exterior factors.
Biggest difference maker on a team would be my way of looking at it. I think Mahomes is at the top of that along with Brady
@@TheGridironYTI agree
Brady fans will always move the goalposts. If mahomes get 8 Superbowls, then it'll be oh Mahomes never beat Brady in the playoffs. Even though Brady never beat Eli, and they will say oh that doesn't matter, Eli's and Bradys' careers aren't comparable, so it doesn't. They will always find or say something.
Tru people never really gonna change their minds
That first game against the Broncos? OP made it sound like he had a bad game. (0 TD, 1 INT) Mahomes was playing with Chiefs backups vs Denver's starters. Mahomes literally drug the team to an unexpected win. Albert Wilson had 10 receptions for 147 yards (40% of his season total) and got a contract with Dolphins for 3yrs $24M...
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Texas Tech. Manzell played at Texas A&M
Yea the mistake was made 🫠
@@TheGridironYT Actually, Texas A&M probably was saying that at some point.. LOL
@@BrianPaul1984 LMAOOO facts
Astonishing amazing unbelievable good 👍 wow hes so intelligent 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 can have all athletic ability in world but putting together athletic and decision making is thats it then he run hes total package in QB
Future Brady level
Did you reply to everyone cause that’s awesome! Just like this video!!!
Yea I have way too much free time
Did you compair him to mahimmsd Ali?@@TheGridironYT
OH, I forgot to also include the great sugar Ray Robinson, And Charles Sonny Liston?...I'm out of here.
He is rank number one in the nfl and won the superbowl with one of the worst teams in the league. Tom Brady fan boys don’t want Mahomes to pats up their boy. Give Mahomes more time to eat. He will surpass Brady.
Very likely
Mahome is the BEST!!
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Facts are facts and the results speak for themselves. The GOAT title is just on lease until Mahomeboy is done.
😂😂😂 u might be right
Tom Brady was great for 20 year straight. Patrick so far has been great for 6 year straight. How will Patrick play when ages catches up to him? It easy to be on top of the world when youth is on your side.
Tru that I miss being young too
It is not about how long you played, but your accomplishments.
@@michaeludeze8470 Barry Bonds is arguably the best baseball player ever, you could also argue Ken Griffey Jr as well. These two players have never won a championship; so to what extend do rings mean? Bill Russell has 11 rings, but the NBA in the 60s had few teams and the games looked like a pick up game at the Y.
@@millabasset1710In the NHL there's very little debate that Wayne Gretzky (who won 4 rings) is the best player ever, despite Henri Richard winning 11 times-in a league with only 6 teams. Gretzky won the MVP 9 times in his first 10 NHL seasons, and has a list of all-time league records that dwarfs any other player in the history of any of the Big Four sports-Jordan, Bonds, whoever. They're all team sports, so measuring _team_ success as part of _individual_ accomplishments is unfounded. I wish Brady fans could grasp that.
Baby Goat ❤
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Mahomes is miles away from Brady. He’s already had a hall of fame career… he needs to have two more and win five more super bowls to be considered the greatest.
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Miles away? Only in terms of time in league. Fact mahomes had a Better first 7 years than Brady
Hes top 8ish in terms of peak accomplishments. (Stuff like mvp and rings)
Probably the best per game statistical quarterback ever.
He can make throws that maybe 6 other quarterbacks ive seen could also make. And for plays in general, like a scramble chained into an insane throw,
Josh Allen is the only other qb where I’d bet on it.
He also avoids negative plays markably better than any other dude that could make the throws he makes except Rodgers.
Hes maybe the best playoff performer Ever.
Brady’s longevity and consistency is is even closer to matched by 2 athletes neither of which play football.
Regardless of when or if he’ll pass Brady
I’d say he’s easily top 5, with Brady, Peyton, Montana & Unitas
This high so early in his career still has potential
Mahomes will 3peat
Ye probs
Im big mahomes fan and brady is goat 🐐
Respect
Lifelong chiefs fan - Brady is the goat. Pat is on a great pace to become his equal, but right now idk why people aren’t saying it like this! Mahomes realistically might catch THE GOAT, NOT is Mahomes already the goat ?? 🥴 Lastly, Mahomes is more talented and has the insane mental side of the game too… but what Brady’s mental acuity did to elevate his game with less physical ability can’t be slept on. If Mahomes gets the only 3 peat of all time then I’ll acknowledge he is WAY closer to TB12 at just 30 years old… watch and see GO CHIEFS
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No one will ever match Brady tho. His longevity alone makes his stats insurmountable. He wasn't just good his first 10 years; he was great. Then he was great the 10 years after that, and then another couple after that too just for icing on the cake lol
Year for year Mahomes is ludicrous, but he's gonna get dumped somewhere in his 30's just because of injuries and his playstyle alone. Plus the league is shying more and more away from passing this decade so the stats are dropping. That rookie outting is still his best statline.
Mahomes is the closest to reaching Brady tho
Future Goat
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You can talk about who is the goat when it is all set and done
Facts
Tedy Bruschi even said that Mahomes is better than Tom was through 6 seasons. Yall are scared that Mahomes is gonna pass Tommy Cheats 😂
Tommy Cheats < Eli Manning x2
Lmao Eli Manning is the only real GOAT honestly
Funny thing is that the Tom Brady was Mahomes kryptonite. Another funny things is that Arron Rogers and Mahomes plays the say, the biggest difference I see is that Mahomes will take a hit. For this reason I see Mahomes as he ages, he will endure more pain. Rogers used to run all over the place like Mahomes but if you see if over his last 5 years, he stays in the pocket more than ever. I see Mahomes as his speed reduces, as injury catches up, I see him playing like Rogers. Tom Brady had a very good, one of the best O-lines in the NFL.
its insane that we are having this conversation. its insane NOT to have this conversation. i dono but as a chiefs fan im here for all of it. good and bad
Lmao same
He is more Goat than the finest cashmere.
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You guys remember when guys like Stephen A were mad they didn’t take DeShaun? Shannon Sharpe said he didn’t like the pick(though Skip Baseless did, oddly). I remember 🤡
Nobody knows anything
I am not a Mahomes fan although I think he is a sweet kid. The guy won a Super Bowl 2 years ago on "one" leg!!
Truuu he on the come up
Dont want to jinx it, but hes never lost a season before the AFC championship. 6 straight AFC championship appearances. Right now brady is the most accomplished QB no doubt. But that wont last and theres no arguing any of that.
Yea Mahomes on the goat path
A minor point - Mahomes attended Texas Tech not Texas A&M.
Yep 👍🏾
You have already repeated that tired statement 3 times.😊
I just remembered when Brady and company beat Mahomes in the AFC championship. Then Brady had company beat Mahomes in the Superbowl. That can never be changed. So, I see Mahomes as a great player. And, I do see Mahomes being the greatest QB to ever do it. Hard to be The Goat after Brady beat him twice in meaningful games. I am a die hard Steelers fan. But, I love QBs and I love watching him play. Not when playing my team. Lol. At the end of his career he will go down as the best to ever do it.
All facts
Mahomes is the best QB I’ve ever seen. Not the GREATEST(yet), but those two things are mutually exclusive, which is fine.
Truu
@@TheGridironYT to be sure-he’s coming for that GOAT status though 😂
“GOAT” doesn’t make any sense. There will always be the new generation of better players.
Goat is based on the present usually. For sure, in the future there will be others
Has only played in every afc championship since he started, has won 3 superbowls. What a silly question.
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Derik car was very close to potentially becoming the baby goat while with the raiders, until he broke his back.
He's 3 superbowls great that's how great .
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Mahomes first 7 years is better than Brady's best 7 years. The Chiefs were capable of winning a Superbowl without a good defense, twice, The Patriots never did it without a top 10 defense.
Brady's first seven years were different, wasn't a passing league at that time, defenses were harder before Goodell came in and slowly ruined the NFL.
The Chiefs always had a solid defense too
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Always had a decent defense? I think not. Bob Sutton & his 3-4 Defensive scheme got 85-90% of the Defensive starters fired.
Got to see it happen first.
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What I'm hearing is that he's decent at football
Not too bad
Did I hear it said that Mahomes played football for Texas A&M? I wonder what Texas Tech thinks about that?
Yea had a mixup there. I hope tech is ok
To be fair, if Mahomes has won three Super Bowls in six years in the next six years, he should have another three Super Bowls. He still not even be 35 years old you easily beat Brady.
Truth
let’s make a lamar jackson one
Ooo good call. Stay tuned
I'm a chiefs fan for 50 years and I gotta tell you mahomas is great. Brady is the goat and will be for as long as it takes. If mahomas racks up a few more rings then it will be time to have this discussion. Mahomas is a helluva lot more talented than Brady and seems to have that killer focus of Brady. But it's just to early to have this conversation.
Tru this!!
It’s next to impossible to catch Brady’s numbers. Do you believe in miracles?
@@johnbrauchi1377 can't say that I do believe in miracles. When you look at the almost with exception of the offsides penalty against Dee Ford. And the injured offensive line against Tampa. KC could have had 5 Superbowl wins in the last 5 years. Most of the so called experts said after Hill left that mahomas would struggle. I don't think they would need a miracle. The good news, if mahomas stays healthy and Reid sticks around for a few more years who knows.
Your no Chiefs fan just a poser chiefs fan protecting Brady
@@toddtollfree5659 he's right too
Tom Brady was NEVER as good as Mahomes is right now. That's just a fact.
What a take
@TheGridironYT Numbers back that take up. At this pace, If Mahomes plays till he's 35 he will have surpassed Brady in every stat including rings assuming there's not a 10 year gap between rings 3 and 4 😂😂😂
@@KondimentColorz Mahomes wouldn't last in the 2000s, wouldn't be allowed to pass as much as he did if someone like Ray Lewis was hunting him.
@millabasset1710 Lol yes he absolutely would have. He's really actually better than anything the league has ever seen before and numbers back that up. Every generation has their all stars, Maxx Crosby, Von Miller, Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, Derwin James, etc were/are all certified stars on defense for KCs divisional rivals while Mahomes was KCs starter. We wont even talk about all the elite talent he's faced outside the division 😂😂😂, you can stay right in the AFC West and get a very clear picture of what's going on in the NFL. The Chiefs own the entire league. That's just a fact until somebody beats them in a playoff/SB game again. Cry about it.
@@KondimentColorz glaze
Brady Cheated..Pats Cheated..asterisk loading *
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Colts fan? How does it feel being irrelevant for life?
These QBs and baseball I swear. NFL teams should just scout baseball players
Tru that
John Elway played baseball, and among all QBs he's one of the ones who is most comparable overall to Mahomes
People, stop saying he went to Texas A & M. He went to Texas Tech.
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You are the only troll continuing to echo this.
Stronger arm than Brady, a better scrambler than Brady, a better runner than Brady, more original in his passing than Brady, he now has a great offensive line where he doesn't have to scramble as much. He's only 28, Mahomes may not get 7 rings but, he will come close. The thing though, he's not going to play until he's 45 years old so, I doubt that he will break any of Brady's regular season records but, you never know!
He could play that long tho
At the same age Patrick is a far better QB. Tom Brady had a long career where he became great. We will see how Mahomes does later in his career. Right now its still Brady.
Factoids
I love that photo of all-time greats. Pele, Jordan and Eldrick were never the best in their sport. Where's a photo of Nicklaus and Bill Russell?
Can’t include everyone!
St Nicholas?
Tom brady became the “goat” because Bledsoe got injured
Fate
Texas tech come on man
Yea ik ppl letting me have it in the comments
Brady's biggest mistake... shilling for FTX
😂 good point
imagine if patrick mahomes makes the chiefs go undefeated like what tom brady did to the patriots
It’s possible and even better if the Giants knock him off in the Super Bowl ✍🏽
If you added Randy Moss to the team the Chiefs have now they would go undefeated and win the SuperBowl without a doubt. It would not even be fair.
There’s only been 1 undefeated team and it’s not the patriots
yeah 16-0 i was meaning regular season buddy
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But tom beat him tho after retirement and then went back in retirement😅still love mahomes tho si respect to him aswell
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I'm a die hard Chiefs fan and I do think Mahomes is a more athletic and talented QB than Brady, but Mahomes isn't the GOAT yet. If he stays healthy and Andy sticks around for as long as he can then I think it's just a matter of time. Just imagine if Dee Ford wasn't offsides in the AFC Championship game against Brady, Mahomes would already have 4. And if our O-line wasn't all hurt and banged up he'd have 5. So, yeah, Mahomes is special.
Tru Mahomes just gotta stay healthy
The one people don't understand is Mahomes played baseball!!! That's how he throws the football side-armded.....and now everyone is copying what he does!¡!!!
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ummm, so did Brady, drafted even
Mahomes is Houdini for real he is magical and in missouri we love him brittney and the 2 young ones
Chiefs kingdom
Mahomes is the goat 🐐🐐🐐 time for the 3 peat
Yea Mahomes on fire right now
Brady has 7. One without a good coach. If Patrick can get 7 and one without Andy then yes
Exactly
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Potentially in 5 years
GOAT stats are nonsense and don't mean anything,but current champions do!
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Maholmes aint the goat until he lasts a long time and wins throughout multiple eras. Brady led the league in TDs with 26 one season in the early 2000s. Now the leaders are in the 40s for TDs. In 2020, Brady had 40 Tds and 4,633 yards. If the rules change in fifteen years, and Maholmes win an SB with leading stats in that new era, then he is cometition.
Good points. Let’s see how Pat adapts in next decade
@@TheGridironYT the issue is the new era is because of Mahomes. The NFL is changing because of Mahomes
@@ariici if u say that, then u have to see how Brady changed the NFL too- Tuck rule and way more roughing the passer calls.
@@TheGridironYT changed it in a bad way
Patrick knows what he has to do to beat Brady. Don’t worry!!!
Texas tech not a&m
Yep missed that one
You are acting silly dude.
Mahomes will probably be better than Brady all time. But inevitably, someone else is going to come along and take the title for themselves. Records are meant to be broken. And the NFL is destined for longer seasons.
Tru they can do a lot more with 17 games a season and also no one can tackle anymore
Texas tech bro. Not Texas a&m
Yea mistake was made there
Stop already!
It remains to be seen. With all the help Mahomes and the chiefs have received from the referees it’s obvious that the NFL and referees planned to have the Chiefs win and are trying to make him into something he’s not. Brady has proved his GOAT status from his college days. Mahomes is a sandlot player who slinged many sandlot plays. The Bills proved that Mahomes is still a want to be Goat and faced with a talented team like the bills all his running around in the backfield is only powered by his great receiving core. Remember Brady has completed more touchdowns to so many different receivers that Brady and his arm have been then Standard of quarterback efficiency and excellence!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brady can keep the goat. I call Mahomes the lion 🦁
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Texas A&M? 😂
Dam u caught it unlike Kadarius Toney
Six seasons narrator, not Seven. One meaningless rookie game does not count as a season.
True
Texas Tech, not Texas A&M.
Mistakes were made
kc my hometown
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one game proves that mahomes can never be better than brady, 31-9
That’s just one game tho
@@TheGridironYT afc championship when Brady was still with the pats
You mean Texas Tech
Yea ppl been calling me out all day
Brady led the league in TDs in his 2nd year as a starter with pass catchers that were made from grocery baggers. Maholmes has Kelce and Rice and a bunch of athletic receivers and all they do is blame receivers.
They still led the league in drops. Just cause u athletic doesn’t mean u can catch. Just ask Kadarius Toney
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One of Brady’s most impressive stats is that he threw a TD to more unique individual players than any QB in history by a MILE. He had that record well before he went to the Bucs, so he did it with one team. He could have made any receiver in the league into a Pro-bowler.