Know of another band that changed singers and it worked out? Leave a comment and let everyone know! Please check out more videos below: Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here | ATF = ruclips.net/video/ZUMhy_1ts5o/видео.html Great Guitarists In Bad Bands = ruclips.net/video/FL8IZNhz7JY/видео.html Top 10 WORST Love Songs In Rock = ruclips.net/video/V6Ij3SMzGS8/видео.html
AC/DC should definitely be on the list. Before Bon Scott, there was Dave Evans. Evans and his brother were both fired for trying to take the band in a glam direction and Scott was hired after Malcom heard his work in the Valentines. Another notable mention should be Deep Purple. Dave Coverdale replaced Ian Gillan and one of rocks truly amazing albums was born with Stormbringer.
This could definitely have been included. He could have ended the segment saying Bon was with the band until his passing in 1979, but without any mention of Brian Johnson.
To the first two guys who replied, he's talking about Bon Scott replacing the singer before him , pay attention. I think the premise are bands that were successful before and after. Was AC/DC successful before Bon Scott? I don't really think so.
Genesis are a band that after changing singers became astronomically successful. The earlier Gabriel albums were great but there is no denying the impact that Phil Collins had as their vocalist and their success.
Scott LaPointe . Success does not mean they where better. The 70's Collins albums where great. But in the 80's they went from prog to AOR. Same goes for Yes.
Phil copied Gabriel by his own admission and sold out for chart success by his own admission. There were other factors changing the band including ignoring any input by Steve Hacket.
Slipknot, their original vocalist from 1994 to 1997 was Anders Colsefni, the band wanted a different vocalist though and put him on percussion and backing, then he left. Corey replaced him as the lead vocalist, and now they're without a doubt one of the most recognisable metal bands in the world (and Corey being an iconic vocalist). Respect for Anders tho, without him they wouldn't be where they are today, plus I think his vocals are great.
That’s if you were a fan.... but have you read how poorly he treated Jimmy, Vinny & Viv (he basically made Viv Campbell do something that would result in his firing). I’m beginning to think he hated really tall guitarist because Warren De Martini (if you’re a metalhead you’ll know exactly who I mean 😉)tried working with Dio in the early 00s but soon quit over ‘personal differences’ don’t be all pissed at me, dude.
Deep Purple did it twice. With Rod Evans they carved themselves out a niche as a pop band, but replacing him with Ian Gillan put them in arenas. When the relationship soured and he was kicked out they replaced him with David Coverdale and were headlining festivals.
Yeah, when Peter Gabriel left in 1977, Genesis became a trio, with Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, and Phil Collins as the lead vocalist plus drummer. So many damn hits with those three.
I’m a Nightwish diehard but even I had to appreciate you talking about them right after Killswitch Engage with the quote of, “Zero ego or complications. That is such a rare thing with bands that it’s almost hard to believe.” I’m sure it wasn’t intentional but I’m amused by the implications of, “now here’s the complete opposite!” 😂
Kamelot replacing Mark Vanderbilt with Roy Khan early on was nothing but a massive improvement. When Roy left the band after burnout, Tommy Karevik stepped in and sounds great.
I kinda hated that they made Karevik cosplay Khan at first. Guy had unique style before but they made him fill extremely large shoes by being a copycat. Same happened in Arch Enemy, their first record without Angela Gossow I was like... did they re-hire Johan Liiva? Cause it sounded like a constipated bear... again. Alissa's strength was in doing both clean and growling vocals in Agonist, and they made her be second Angela. That said, I LOVE the band Conception and Roy being back with them is nice. It's like if Dio went back to Rainbow...
@@MrCoreslash The first post Lane Staley album was alright. But after that, it is just too far from what Alice In Chains were and I can't get into them anymore.
Surprised to not see Faith No More on here. While the Chuck Mosely era was a very fun era of the band Mike Patton came in and stepped up everything. Both eras are great and they went on to even more major success with the addition of Patton.
This. Human was an alright album but the last 2 have been pretty forgettable. Sadly Saint Asonia hasn't been much better. Adam and 3DG can only make good music when they're together.
I always forget that Syd Barrett's departure from Pink Floyd was not because of his passing. I guess the circumstances were still very rough for everyone that in the end it's easy to think that.
One of the most talked about stories among musicians in spite of being around 45 years ago. One of the points which makes this kind of music so interisting and inspiring!
I heard a story that Syd walked into a studio 'Pink Floyd' was recording in and no one recognized him. That was what made Waters come up with the concept for 'Wish You Were Here'. I don't know if it is true, but it makes sense to me.
@@martincart2775 Syd literally looked like the ghost of Uncle Fester from the Addams Family, when he wandered in. Bad drug episodes (Richard would go to say the mooching friends Syd was hanging with were dosing him), mental illness, and disillusionment with the business took its toll on Syd. "Shine On" is totally about Syd and the awkwardness of that moment.
I 100% agree with you man. It was mainly Jame's amazing vocals that got me hooked on Dream Theater in late '92 early '93. And I have been a huge fan since then. I have seen them live 5 times and they never disappointed me.
Love James. I think a lot of the hate comes from that super long recovery period after his vocal cord injury, but... they recorded Scenes From a Memory while he was hurt. Dude is that good.
Couldn't agree more, LaBrie's voice, just in terms of vocal talent, is absolutely mind blowing. The notes he can hit, and even hold, puts most other singers to shame, and the rest of the band is just as talented with their instruments, with their live albums showing they don't just sound like that in a studio. I've never understood why they aren't significantly more popular than they are.
Three Days Grace does not feel like the same band to me without Adam Gontier. They did not just change singer, they also changed their sound and arguably the genre at that same time. Saint Asonia (with Adam Gontier and three other musicians) sounds more like Three Days Grace than the other four original 3DG members and Matt, imo. Not saying 3DG with Matt is bad, I listen to both, but when Adam left, it was a big departure for the band, imo. The same _probably_ goes for Anthrax, though I must admit I'm not familiar with the John Bush era albums. I absolutely *love* For All Kings and Worship Music and I enjoy their 80's Thrash albums, but I only ever checked out one of the albums with John Bush on the mic and it did absolutely nothing for me, I didn't even listen to the end before I moved on to something else and never came back to it...
You write that seeing Iron Maiden live is on your bucket list: I can only say, do it. Their music is great, their live shows are out of this world. Live is their strength.
Yeah, I was initially really bemused at them dumping him somewhat unceremoniously in favour of what I saw as an unnecessary reunion with Belladonna, who then flaked on them again. In fairness though, since he eventually returned full time, they've been fucking awesome.
@@johnafirth John Bush was alright. But it just didn't sound like Anthrax to me. Belladonna was my singer and State Of Euphoria has always been my favorite album from them.
I personally feel like Neil Turbin era of Anthrax is very underrated. Although he only recorded one album with them (being Fistful of Metal) it still is my most favorite out of all Anthrax Albums to come. He just had another level of Power that personally.... to me Belladonna didn't have. Don't get me wrong, Anthrax had some bangers with Belladonna, but Fistful of Metal is just damn good.
My favorite Anthrax album is with John Bush “Sound of White Nose”. “Black Lodge” is an amazing song & really demonstrates how musically talented & versatile the band is.
Dio was my introduction to Metal and I have probably every album he was a part of. Seeing Heaven & Hell live was one of my favourite memories (even if the guy next to me made me laugh because he was ticked off that Dio didn't sing enough Ozzy songs! lol). One of the few celebrities I honestly mourn and miss.
Journey went through several lead singers before settling on Steve Perry for their most famous run Judas Priest also went through a different lead singer before coming to Rob Halford who also left the band and rejoined it Dream Theater is another who experimented with different singers until they found James LaBrie
Yes! I saw Journey live with Arnel Pineda and he did a good job on the mic. They are not THAT succesful anymore, but still worth to be set on the list!
Actually no, they had Greg Rolie, their co-founder from the beginning. I always liked the stuff he sang better than Steve Perry (Feelin that Way/Anytime and Just the Same). Greg wasn’t a bad singer at all. You may have heard of Black Magic Woman? Greg sang that while in Santana, with Neil Schon (the other co-founder of Journey).
A lesser-known example would be when Onslaught changed their lead singer to Steve Grimmett for In Search of Sanity. Loved his singing and love that album.
Hiring Floor Jansen to sing in Nightwish was about the best they could have done. I thought Nightwish was quite dead around 2010 Just to see them rise to greatness
Candlemass deserves an honorable mention. Candlemass has had 6 vocalist through the years. All of them have had contributed something great, but Johan Längqvist, Messiah Marcolin and Robert Lowe are the most popular.
Well researched/reminded. I have got the Epicus... album and the singing was good. One don't might think of that, regarding the overwhelming figure of Marcolin.
Oh yeah. It blew my mind to find out Courtney Love was a former lead singer for Faith No More. Could not really picture her singing "Epic" or "Falling To Pieces". I think it was the cover of "War Pigs" on their album "The Real Thing" that made me stand up and want to hear more from them.
@@derekkeel6329 Jerry Cantrell both sang back-up vocals and wrote most of their songs (except for Man In A Box), so the sound of Alice in Chains is mostly because of Jerry. I can listen to their post-Layne album (Black Gives Way To Blue, which was released about 7 years after Layne passed away) front to back without skipping any songs. 🤟
I saw them live with Duvall and it was decent. Of course I'd take Layne, but with Cantrell there it was still amazing. I don't even know if Layne would want to play with AIC if he was still alive
@@ARC117Studios You're right. When I heard "a singer change that worked", I thought of bands that don't sound too different with the new voice. Guess I missed the point of this video being more about the band's relevance.
Love your format and opinions! Since we're talking death metal, Morbid Angel is a good example if we had a top 20. Steven Tucker alternating with David Vincent has been great, at least to me.
I only saw Heaven & Hell Once. I remember being in line for the bathroom during intermission. Someone in line yells out "Ronnie James Dio!" Someone else yells out "Ozzy Osbourne". Not missing a beat, I yell out "Tony Martin!" and everyone starts cracking up laughing. Good times.
Megadeth was absolutely celebrated in the 90s. Rust in peace, countdown to extinction, youthanasia and cryptic writings. The only quote on quote bad album was risk
Ensiferum is a great example, Jari Mäenpää is an amazing singer who helped setting the tone for the band, when he left, Petri Lindroos knew how to carry on the torch and even make it bigger, they've released some massive bangers with a lot of different styles
How could you not mention deep purple? The original lead singer was Rod Evans in 1968. They were basically a pop group. Then they hired Ian Gillan. They put out great albums like in rock, and machine head. The Gillan left in 1973 and they hired David Coverdale. They still headlined cal jam in 1974 with Coverdale an unknown at the time. Or rainbow. The went from Dio, to graham bonnet and then to joe Lynn turner. Had success with all 3 line ups. And you can’t forget journey. Journey released 3 albums before they hired Steve perry. Greg Rollie did most of the vocals, but they were mainly a progressive band. Wouldn’t have been the massive success without Perry. In fact we’re about to lose their record contract. Genesis also. Originally had Peter Gabriel but he left and replaced him with drummer Phil Collins. Had much more success with Collins vocals.
Rainbow had Doogie White too for reunion in 1990s, released one record which shared some writing credits with Candice Night and immediately paved the way for Blackmore's Night... As to Deep Purple, they had a few pop rock songs like Hush and Emmaretta, but most of early album material was prog-rock with psychodelic vibes, check out the epic track April or the Shield. Blackmore IIRC said that they had NO idea which direction to take band into until they heard Led Zeppelin and decided "that's it". Then tons of work was made by Martin Birch, also famous for being sound engineer for Iron Maiden's best period and Dio era Rainbow as we come full circle. DP are just amazing in how they were winging it for so much time: tons of plagitarism they confessed to, as in, material stolen, sometimes from bands they were jamming at the time. Jon Lord and Richie both confessed to that in interviews. Highway Star was written to show a reporter how the songwriting process works. Not surprising, since it's basically chugging the G note. Also they never knew Smoke on the Water, a FILLER SONG, would be a hit: it's written literally about someone stupid with a flare gun burning the place to the ground, on the lake Geneva short, during sessions in Zappa's studio. SO at early concerts fans kept requesting it and they didn't even play the solo because it was improvised in studio and Blackmore didn't rehearse or memorize it! D: This band was always the essence of Rock N' Roll, THEY DID NOT GIVE A SHIT.
Derrick Green replacing Max in Sepultura. I know he doesn't sound like Max, but he's still in the band & has never left so I would say that has been successful. "Machine Messiah" & "Quadra" are really good albums imo.
In my mind Derrick is more their frontman than Max ever was. Max doesn't really have any range and isn't very articulate, like his vocal stylings are very limited. Arise and Chaos AD are amazing albums and while they had a rough go when Derrick started with the band, they really grew as band and made their best music in the last decade. Machine Messiah and Quadra are just fantastic!
Sepultura still putting out great records. I love the max era records specially BTR and Arise but my favorite Sepultura album by far is Dante XXI... Quadra and Machine Messiah are amazing records.. i find Derrick's vocals more menacing than max...
And there are no actual original members in Sepultura either. Yet they are out there as Sepultura. Kinda weird... Maybe if this dude who posted this video could do better fact checking on things like, Johan Liiva starting Arch enemy with Michael Ammott and not stating that Johan was of Carcass fame instead of Michael, I'd suggest he do a segment on bands that record and tour under a popular name, yet nobody in the band are original. Hell, I think Quiet Riot would even fall under that category at this point.
I came here hoping Nightwish would be mentioned, since I'm someone who has enjoyed every singer's approach and related albums. I'm glad they were included. I know it's a metal centric video, and they're by no means underground, but over the years I've been very used to people having no idea who they are.
@@mickandbobby I saw that! I'm pretty crushed... while all the members are so important to the band, him and Tuomas feel like what's kept it Nightwish despite so many other people coming and going. It's a bit heartbreaking to see him go.
And then they disbanded for a bit (Because Richie Blackmore is also a classic member for Deep Purple), then rebanded, making "The stranger in us all" album with Doogie White on lead vocals, disbanded *again,* then rebanded again with some guy called Ronnie Romero.
Fleetwood Mac do belong on this list! If you play their trademark LP "Rumors" (1977) back-to-back with their 1968 s/t debut it is hard-to-believe it's the same band!
i know anthrax is underrated but 90's was a pretty good experimental time for them, the sound of white noise is my second favorite album from them and either state of euphoria or for all kings is my favorite
Another fun thing about the Dio transition was how the band had to adjust to Dio singing over the melody, as opposed to Ozzy singing with the melody. It's a seemingly small detail until you notice it - then it makes each song even more different than before.
Songwriting is completely different, yeah. Each vocalist was unique. Most underrated one is Ian Gillan, who broke his vocal cords screaming with them on a tour, never heard Sabbath before his audition and was surprised having them ask him to play Smoke on the Water. Born Again is INSANE album. And songwriting was very Deep Purple style, for example, Disturbing the Priest was just them jamming when a priest, well, complained... that they were disturbing them. This level of not-giving-shit is absolute Machine Head vibes. Still, I think Dio's best work is in Rainbow... His own band too. While Sabbath had amazing stuff with Tony Martin as well. Headless Cross is just very melancholic.
Bruce Dickinson had become such an iconic singer by the time he left that I don't think anyone could have replaced him and been well received. Blaze Bayley had an absolutely impossible job and looking back he doesn't bear any grudges. His work with classically trained guitarist Thomas Zwijsen is a lot of fun and really shows both his and Bruce's Maiden songs in a new light. His solo work is equally impressive. Blaze could have been huge had circumstances been different, but Bruce is an icon. Bonus points for bringing Adrian back too!
It didn't help that the X-Factor wasn't exactly the best album to make a good first impression with. A more traditional Maiden album would've done him a huge favor.
None of them counts, as Chester had been with Linkin Park for their entire recording career, and Creed didn't stay Creed when they got the (much better) Myles Kennedy; they literally became a new band. So did RATM who became Audioslave.
Creed and Alter Bridge the same band? I mean, I like both of them, but Creed was a (post-Grunge/Christian) Rock band and Alter Bridge is (Alternative) Metal. I wouldn't even consider them to be similar! But everyone hears diffently, I guess
Saw Iron Maiden live at the Glen Helen Arena in SoCal. Ghost was one of their openers and it is still to this day one of the best concerts I've ever been too. I wish I had been able to see Van Halen before Eddie passed but Maiden is one of those performances I will have forever
Related, Gamma Ray. Kai Hansen looked for a singer in Helloween because he found it hard to sing and play at the same time in tour. His first pick was Ralf Scheepers from Primal Fear, but the rest chose Kiske, who had two legendary and two horrible albums that led to his firing. In his new band, Kai got Ralf to sing, but after a few good albums dropped him and returned to singing himself, changing the band's style to more Speed Metal. It was great! Meanwhile, for a short period of time we had three amazing bands, Primal Fear, Helloween (with Andi Deris), and Gamma Ray, churning out classic records while Kiske was busy hating on Metal fans on MySpace... unfortunately it ended and they had to ruin this by touring with old songs and three vocalists.
Slipknot, when Anders Colsefni left and the great big mouth Corey Taylor joined Dream Theater, when Charlie Dominici left and James LaBrie joined Without both of these singers in these bands, these bands would not be what they are today
Deep Purple, Faith No More, Fleetwood Mac, Genesis, Journey, & Pantera. You should definitely see Iron Maiden if you ever get the chance. My favorite band to see live
I really like Bullet Train and Cathedral Spires from Jugulator, but their second album with Ripper was a bit duff. And Sabbath, man, they've had about fifty singers. The Gillan album would have had a better reception under another name. It wasn't a bad album, just wasn't a Sabbath album.
To my knowledge, they never recorded anything with Al Atkins so it really doesn't count. Some of their early material did incorporate some of material that was written by Atkins (Victim of Changes incorporates part of a song called "Whiskey Woman" that Atkins wrote with Tipton for example) but that's the extent of his contribution to the band.
@@ascii7085 yes and no. The 2nd iteration had KK and Atkins and Ian Hill. They actually wrote songs that were in about 2/3rds of Rocka Rolla before the change over to Halford. That's why that album doesn't really sound a lot like Priest.
Seen Maiden live 3 times, once on my honeymoon. Incredible every time. Bruce brings it as songwriter and singer but also as a massive presence on stage. Energetic, charismatic, loud and fun. Nobody could ever quite fill that hole. (Also, now a cancer survivor. Dude is tough.)
For the longest time Bruce's song writing seemed to be his one weakness, Steve is hard to beat song wise, but then Bruce gave us Empire of the Clouds...
@@donaldcampbell3043 that's why I didn't like his solo career. I heard the album Tattooed Millionaire, besides one or two songs, the songs on it really put me off listening to any other of his solo music
@@donaldcampbell3043 Bruce's main contribution is quality control; Bayley is a great singer but with him, Steve Harris got TOO MUCH creative control and recorded/mixed stuff on his own, which drowned out guitars and filled albums with droning long songs which were too complex for their own good. Bruce being back didn't improve their singing (he still can't do Lord of the Flies), but the album production. Compare Virtual XI with Brave New World, it's night and day!
I’d drop 3DG not a fan of how they edit Matt’s voice in the studio to sound more gritty like Adam and sound completely different live, then add either AC/DC or saliva AC/DC is known to have one of the best singer replacements in history and Bobby has done an awesome job with saliva by keeping same feel with the classic songs live while putting his own sound into them.
After Bonnet Rainbow was dead. I just don't like Turner, as I don't like Collins. They may have had more success, but I don't like both of them and I don't like the music their bands played.
Even though Rob Halford is the voice of Judas Priest, Tim Owens aka The Ripper did a great job. Jugulator is underrated. And he also did well for Iced Earth. I will add Deep Purple, Rainbow, Pantera, and Misfits.
You absolutely cannot count Owens. He could hit all the notes, but he lacked Rob Halford's charisma; plus, he couldn't write songs. I had *Jugulator* and it sux balls.
It'd be interesting to hear a list of bands that managed to become more popular after they changed their style or genre. First one that pops to mind is Gary Numan, who went from electronica to goth metal and made it work. It's very rare bands can pull off a change of sound and still be liked or find a crowd.
Lacuna Coil: Cristina Scabbia, she was the female backup singer that became the primary lead. Triviuim: Matt Heafy took a backseat from lead vocalist after damaging his vocal chords, but returned to lead when fans and band members wanted to return to their roots. (citation needed)
Another band that changed singers and it worked was Deep Purple. Kinda like Iron Maiden, when the band switched from Rod Evans to Ian Gillen, the band really kicked off with Deep Purple in Rock, Burn, and Machine Head. In my opinion, it even worked when Deep Purple Mk III rolled around and went in a different direction with David Coverdale (yes the Whitesnake guy) and Glenn Hughes shared singing duties for Burn (bona fide classic, I will die on this hill) and Stormbringer (admittedly not as good as Burn, but I still enjoy it for what it is).
Just as a side note: We *cannot* forget that the band "Heaven and Hell" was essentially a Dio-era Sabbath reunion under a different name. "Devil You Know" is still one of my all time favourite albums, and it showed Dio was still strong vocally shortly before his death. R.I.P Ronnie James Dio. Your legend will live on, always.
The Devil You Know is a Sabbath album in all but name. It's the Mob Rules lineup and I agree, it sounded great, heavy and gloomy. I think they used the Heaven and Hell name so as to not confuse the Ozzy reunion Sabbath lineup with the Dio lineup. Dio's one of the only ones who got harder as he aged.
They also have a box-set of Dio era Sabbath with three new songs, Bible Black, Ear in the Wall, and Shadow of the Wind... People made mixtapes with them, some random B-sides and guest appearances, and the final Dio single, Electra, which was supposed to lead to Magica 2, the best album that never was.
Jinjer switching from Maksym to Tatiana after their first EP worked out for them kind of like Bruce worked out for Iron Maiden. It's hard to imagine Jinjer without Tati. I know the band tends to say their official formation was when she joined but c'mon, they had already released *Objects in Mirror Are Closer than They Appear* under the name Jinjer in 2009.
Dream Theater was successful in a lead singer change. In fact, I'd say that pretty much all their success has been since James Labrie joined the band, even though I enjoy their first album quite a lot.
KKE really set the bar on another level concerning positive vibes among former and current band members it seems. Love lads and one masterpiece after another!
Symphony X is my pick. On their self titled debut, Rod Tyler was on vocals. He wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t until they brought in Russell Allen on their second album, The Damnation Game, that they got an extra boost in power. Seriously, Russell Allen is one of the best metal vocalists of all time and Symphony X is severely underrated
Kamelot had a similar fate when they hired Roy Khantatat... I kinda associate these two Prog/Power bands with each other because they always stood apart from others by having a breakout with a deep-voiced singer. In a genre where everyone wants to hire a screechy icepick vocalist. Shame Khan left.
I’d personally add Helloween to the list. When Michael Kiske joined they made classics, when he left and Andi Deris joined they made even more classics (look me in the eyes and tell me that The Dark Ride is a bad album, I dare you)
PANTERA... Phil Anselmo took Terry Glaze's place. The Dillinger Escape Plan Greg Puciato replaced Dimitri Minakakis. Sepultura Derrick Green replaced Max Cavalera. MISFITS Michale Graves replaced Glenn Danzig.
I honestly think Stone Temple Pilots with Jeff Gutt is a great transition in singers. Their stint with Chester Bennington was also good, but I felt Chester's lower range didn't hit quite like Scott. But Jeff is able to keep that sound alive without feeling too much like he's emulating those who came before him. I also have a soft spot for Jeff as I've been following his career since Dry Cell.
@@bobthebear1246 he never said Chester had a lower range than Scott. He said Chester's lower range didn't hit the same way Scott's did. Reading is fundamental.
I expect old-school Genesis fans might take me to task for this, but here goes: I think Phil Collins filled Peter Gabriel's shoes quite well when the latter went solo, and the band found mainstream commercial success of such a kind that may not have happened had Gabriel stuck around. And going solo didn't work out so badly for Peter Gabriel, either.
I _almost_ agree. Personally, I like Phil better than Peter, but I don't think he was really the reason. They did 2 albums after Gabriel left that got very little attention. It wasn't until _And Then There Were Three,_ when Steve Hackett left, that Genesis really hit big
If you want some recent examples: Of Mice & Men going from Shayley Bourget & Austin Carlile to Aaron Pauley Dance Gavin Dance going from Jonny Craig to Tilian Pearson Underoath going from Dallas Taylor to Spencer Chamberlain Hollywood Undead going from Deuce to Danny Bad Wolves going from Tommy Vext to DL Laskiewicz (arguably)
In Flames broke through big when Anders Fridén joined on vocals. Speaking of In Flames, a fun subject for a video would be bands with no original members in the lineup.
Here's my list. Dance Gavin Dance & Emarosa: As much as I love Jonny Craig's singing ability, yeah I had no problem saying good riddance in the 2010's. & My money will always go to Kurt Travis, but the stuff we got from Tilian is still killer! As for Emarosa, Bradley Walden is still keeping the band going & each album w/ him has been getting better than the last. So that's good! From First To Last: While their best stuff is hands down w/ Sonny Moore, the albums we got w/o him were still pretty solid in their own way, hell Spencer from Periphery was on vocal duty at one point! But I'm glad that Sonny returned & the latest singles w/ him have been growing on me. The Human Abstract: Speaking of From First To Last, their former guitarist Travis Richter stepped in as their vocalist after Nathan Ellis left. & While I wouldn't say that Digital Veil is better than the other 2 albums w/ Ellis, it's still a lot of fun to listen to. Sadly the band went on hiatus after Digital Veil (like Immediately after!) & Odds of them returning seem kinda low... But hey if At The Drive In, Underoath & Tool came back to us anything is possible!!! Chiodos: CRAIG. OWENS. IS. HARD. TO. REPLACE!!! That being said... BRANDON. BOLMER. DESERVES. MORE. CREDIT. FOR. ILLUMINAUDIO!!! A Skylit Drive: For a while I didn't know that Michael wasn't the original singer of this band. & After listening to their first ep w/ Jordan, damn I honestly don't know which era I prefer. (Probably the Michael Jagmin era because we got more music out of it... At least Jordan's stuff w/ Watchout! There's Ghosts was not too shabby!) Blink 182: ... I really like the stuff we got w/ Matt. Is it as good as the self titled, or Take Off Your Pants or Enema Of The State? No, but at least they weren't Neighborhoods! Blessthefall: Not gonna lie, the 1st album w/ Craig Mabbit was kinda not that great. But 2 things. 1.) At least he found a home in Escape The Fate after Ronnie Radke left. 2.) The stuff w/ Beau has never disappointed me. (But as always to each their own!) & Finally Of Mice & Men & Jamie's Elsewhere: Aaron Pauley saved the band many times, once after Shaley left & again after a pretty disappointing album in 2016 & after Austin eventually left the band. &... Pauley's original band Jamie's Elsewhere found a new singer after he left & their 2014 album w/ him definitely slapped hard. & I heard that they've returned just recently. & They're putting out new music!
Pretty much agree with a majority of picks. Only two that I felt needed to be mentioned were Deep Purple from Mark 1-Mark 2's lineup changes, and especially when Faith No More's Chuck Mosley was replaced by Mike Patton. Kind of funny to think Ian Gillan of Deep Purple was also very briefly in Black Sabbath for Born Again (which is not one of their best but I like it for what it is), and how Dio was lead singer of Rainbow before joining Black Sabbath, which weirdly enough was Ritchie Blackmore's project after leaving Deep Purple. But in all sincerity, great video and I'm curious to see what the next tier list, All Time Favorite or Regretting the Past when it comes out.
I would throw in Journey on this list. I honestly can't remember the guy's name but he sounds almost identical to Steve Perry. I've seen Journey twice and both times, if I closed my eyes I almost couldn't tell the difference. This is a really cool video! Thanks!
I was always the odd man out for preferring Dio to Ozzy in Black Sabbath in my middle school metal head clique. I still really like listening to the full of Live Evil, where you can see Dio's ability shine through on some of the songs originally done by Ozzy.
I love the lack of audience on Live Evil compared to other live albums. It adds to the bleak, eerie atmosphere. My only issue with the album is that Dio's opening line of 'Iron Man' seems less like a machine and more like the devil finishing a good meal
King Crimson is a great band when talking about non vocal instruments but when it comes to vocals and lyrics - one of the worst. I have listened to most of their material.
A lot of people don't really like his vocals, but James Labrie replacing Charles Dominici in Dream Theater from Images and Words onwards worked pretty well
The change in vocalist for AC/DC was because of the death of Bon Scott, and this Rocked list specifically omits changes due to death. That being said, AC/DC was the first to spring to my mind as well.
@@sandeesandwich2180 Regardless of why there was a change there was a change there was nothing in the description that said that was a requirement that they either left on their own or were fired as the only reason the change happened.
The band I immediately think about when talking about changing singers which works for everythink is Savatage. Jon Oliva as well as Zak Stevens were amazing singers for the band and I absolutely love both styles of the band.
Of course one of the top 3 guitarists of all time is irreplaceable lol. The band itself is literally named after him n his brother. They weren't called Lee Roth, or Hagar! They were Van Halen! And Mr Guitar God himself wasn't just one of the greatest because of technical mastery, but also because of his influence and ability to change and think outside the box. HE WAS THE SHOW when Van Halen toured. Of course people came to see David and Sammy, but Eddie Van Halen made it more than just a show or concert. He made it a monumental event. That man could play a small solo or even arpeggio, and even a normal person, who knows nothing about guitar, would stop and listen and automatically know that whoever is on that guitar is something very special. I've never been a big Van Halen fan as a band. I know, I'm dumb as rocks, but I've known since I was in elementary school that the man playing THAT GUITAR is a ONCE EVER talent
When The Gathering changed from Anneke van Giersbergen to Silje Wergland the group lost some fans, sadly. However, after listening (repeatedly) to 'The West Pole' and especially 'Disclosure' and related works, along with Silje's prior work in Octavia Sperati, I find that she fits *perfectly* with the direction of The Gathering. I love TG as much with Silje as I do with Anneke. Also on 'Disclosure', the song 'Pale Traces' was made with the delightful Marcela Bovio and it's a knockout song.
![Eminem - Fuel (feat. JID) [Official Lyric Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/t5H_CewqpKA/mqdefault.jpg)
Know of another band that changed singers and it worked out? Leave a comment and let everyone know!
Please check out more videos below:
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here | ATF = ruclips.net/video/ZUMhy_1ts5o/видео.html
Great Guitarists In Bad Bands = ruclips.net/video/FL8IZNhz7JY/видео.html
Top 10 WORST Love Songs In Rock = ruclips.net/video/V6Ij3SMzGS8/видео.html
Sepultura.
Faith no More.
Kamelot. I'm willing to bet most people aren't aware that Roy Khan wasn't part of the original lineup
Phil Collins for Genesis and Phil Anselmo for Pantera
Pantera, Dream Theater, Deep Purple
Faith No More. The switch from Chuck Mosley to Mike Patton was revolutionary.
This was a glaring omission, imo
Came here to say this.
@@joelshewey798me too😂
AC/DC should definitely be on the list. Before Bon Scott, there was Dave Evans. Evans and his brother were both fired for trying to take the band in a glam direction and Scott was hired after Malcom heard his work in the Valentines.
Another notable mention should be Deep Purple. Dave Coverdale replaced Ian Gillan and one of rocks truly amazing albums was born with Stormbringer.
Dude said "no singer deaths included" so I'm assuming that's why they're not mentioned.
He literally said "No Signer Deaths" at the start.
This could definitely have been included. He could have ended the segment saying Bon was with the band until his passing in 1979, but without any mention of Brian Johnson.
To the first two guys who replied, he's talking about Bon Scott replacing the singer before him , pay attention.
I think the premise are bands that were successful before and after. Was AC/DC successful before Bon Scott? I don't really think so.
@@skyatollah2skyharder276 Dave Evans didn’t die before Bon replaced him
Genesis are a band that after changing singers became astronomically successful. The earlier Gabriel albums were great but there is no denying the impact that Phil Collins had as their vocalist and their success.
I agree, Collins brought them chart and mainstream success.
Scott LaPointe . Success does not mean they where better. The 70's Collins albums where great. But in the 80's they went from prog to AOR.
Same goes for Yes.
Phil copied Gabriel by his own admission and sold out for chart success by his own admission. There were other factors changing the band including ignoring any input by Steve Hacket.
Gabriel didn't suffer much.
Totally agree!
Slipknot, their original vocalist from 1994 to 1997 was Anders Colsefni, the band wanted a different vocalist though and put him on percussion and backing, then he left. Corey replaced him as the lead vocalist, and now they're without a doubt one of the most recognisable metal bands in the world (and Corey being an iconic vocalist).
Respect for Anders tho, without him they wouldn't be where they are today, plus I think his vocals are great.
Not entirely true. Anders left cause he lost interest in the idea
Faith no more is a great example of the vocalist fully changing and shape the band with Variety of genres
Specifically came here to say this and glad to see someone already did.. Good on you my guy
Mike Patton is amazing and helped make FNM a long lived musically diverse group. I loved FNM with Chuck Mosely but he's no Mike Patton
@matt you’re on crack if you think that lol Chuck was great but he is nowhere near Patton
@matt agreed lol
Not even talking about his music style or vocals. Dio was an awesome person. Very down to earth an a genuinely nice person. RIP Ronnie.
That’s if you were a fan.... but have you read how poorly he treated Jimmy, Vinny & Viv (he basically made Viv Campbell do something that would result in his firing). I’m beginning to think he hated really tall guitarist because Warren De Martini (if you’re a metalhead you’ll know exactly who I mean 😉)tried working with Dio in the early 00s but soon quit over ‘personal differences’ don’t be all pissed at me, dude.
@@dragonqueen6589 That was Wendy. basically mirrored Ozzy/Sharon
Deep Purple did it twice. With Rod Evans they carved themselves out a niche as a pop band, but replacing him with Ian Gillan put them in arenas. When the relationship soured and he was kicked out they replaced him with David Coverdale and were headlining festivals.
I was thinking of Deep Purple as well.
Ian left twice. Once, being replace by Coverdale. The second time, he was followed by Joe Lynn Turner.
@@mickandbobby
And his wig.....
Coverdale and Hughes were a dual lead singer team. Burn is definitely my fave Purp record.
Blackmore out game over
Genesis is also a band that comes to mind for this category.
Yeah, when Peter Gabriel left in 1977, Genesis became a trio, with Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, and Phil Collins as the lead vocalist plus drummer. So many damn hits with those three.
@@19chucki74 Actually they became a trio in 1983. They still released two albums with Steve Hackett after Gabriel left.
@@19chucki74 Gabriel left in 1975
@@diegolastra
They became a trio in 1978
last album with Hackett was wind and Wuthering in 1976
@@fourseasons4105 Hackett left during the mix of 1977 live album Seconds Out. They released the album And Then There Were Three in 1978.
I’m a Nightwish diehard but even I had to appreciate you talking about them right after Killswitch Engage with the quote of, “Zero ego or complications. That is such a rare thing with bands that it’s almost hard to believe.”
I’m sure it wasn’t intentional but I’m amused by the implications of, “now here’s the complete opposite!” 😂
Kamelot replacing Mark Vanderbilt with Roy Khan early on was nothing but a massive improvement. When Roy left the band after burnout, Tommy Karevik stepped in and sounds great.
I kinda hated that they made Karevik cosplay Khan at first. Guy had unique style before but they made him fill extremely large shoes by being a copycat. Same happened in Arch Enemy, their first record without Angela Gossow I was like... did they re-hire Johan Liiva? Cause it sounded like a constipated bear... again. Alissa's strength was in doing both clean and growling vocals in Agonist, and they made her be second Angela.
That said, I LOVE the band Conception and Roy being back with them is nice. It's like if Dio went back to Rainbow...
Faith no more? It's only 2 vocalists but both were super important in shaping the band into what it is today.
Oh man, I forgot about Faith No More. I always just remember them with Mike.
I can't believe they were left off. They have the most important vocalist change in my book.
ANd Alice in chains also work well with duval
@@MrCoreslash The first post Lane Staley album was alright. But after that, it is just too far from what Alice In Chains were and I can't get into them anymore.
I just commented after seeing the whole vid. And put a written list that included them. It's good to know others are aware.
You could put Dio in a techno country band and I still think he'd make it great. Dio was just a force of nature
Best rock vocalist of all time in my opinion👍
Dio sucked
The Misfits and Pantera would be 2 great examples also
Anthrax!
@@localmusiclover605 Anthrax was here though
Not so much painters. They wernt huge or any popularity back in the day with those 1st 3 albums
Pantera *
Finally, someone else that likes Michale Graves-era Misfits.
Surprised to not see Faith No More on here. While the Chuck Mosely era was a very fun era of the band Mike Patton came in and stepped up everything. Both eras are great and they went on to even more major success with the addition of Patton.
Three Days Grace just were never the same without Adam. Still a very good band but with Gontier they were on another level
Yeah I don't know how the f he put them in here... should be the opposite. Adam's singing and his lyrics are way more deep... new singer is garbage
This. Human was an alright album but the last 2 have been pretty forgettable. Sadly Saint Asonia hasn't been much better. Adam and 3DG can only make good music when they're together.
@@tanningchatum7790 Agreed.
I agree kinda. I honestly think they’ve stayed just as great with Matt as they were with Adam, but that’s my opinion.
I see Ronnie James Dio in the thumbnail= instant like.
I always forget that Syd Barrett's departure from Pink Floyd was not because of his passing. I guess the circumstances were still very rough for everyone that in the end it's easy to think that.
One of the most talked about stories among musicians in spite of being around 45 years ago. One of the points which makes this kind of music so interisting and inspiring!
I heard a story that Syd walked into a studio 'Pink Floyd' was recording in and no one recognized him. That was what made Waters come up with the concept for 'Wish You Were Here'. I don't know if it is true, but it makes sense to me.
Syd had an unfortunate mental deterioration before his departure.
@@martincart2775 Syd literally looked like the ghost of Uncle Fester from the Addams Family, when he wandered in. Bad drug episodes (Richard would go to say the mooching friends Syd was hanging with were dosing him), mental illness, and disillusionment with the business took its toll on Syd. "Shine On" is totally about Syd and the awkwardness of that moment.
Dream Theater comes to mind for me. Love them or hate them, it's hard to imagine the band without James LaBrie at this point.
I think LaBrie's best performance was on 'The Human Equation' by Ayreon.
I 100% agree with you man. It was mainly Jame's amazing vocals that got me hooked on Dream Theater in late '92 early '93. And I have been a huge fan since then. I have seen them live 5 times and they never disappointed me.
Love James. I think a lot of the hate comes from that super long recovery period after his vocal cord injury, but... they recorded Scenes From a Memory while he was hurt. Dude is that good.
I don't think it counts. WDADU isn't their breakthrough album, Images and Words is.
Couldn't agree more, LaBrie's voice, just in terms of vocal talent, is absolutely mind blowing. The notes he can hit, and even hold, puts most other singers to shame, and the rest of the band is just as talented with their instruments, with their live albums showing they don't just sound like that in a studio. I've never understood why they aren't significantly more popular than they are.
Three Days Grace does not feel like the same band to me without Adam Gontier. They did not just change singer, they also changed their sound and arguably the genre at that same time.
Saint Asonia (with Adam Gontier and three other musicians) sounds more like Three Days Grace than the other four original 3DG members and Matt, imo.
Not saying 3DG with Matt is bad, I listen to both, but when Adam left, it was a big departure for the band, imo.
The same _probably_ goes for Anthrax, though I must admit I'm not familiar with the John Bush era albums. I absolutely *love* For All Kings and Worship Music and I enjoy their 80's Thrash albums, but I only ever checked out one of the albums with John Bush on the mic and it did absolutely nothing for me, I didn't even listen to the end before I moved on to something else and never came back to it...
You write that seeing Iron Maiden live is on your bucket list: I can only say, do it. Their music is great, their live shows are out of this world. Live is their strength.
Maiden only sucked during the Blaze Bailey period. Those were dark days for the band
John Bush era of Anthrax is so underrated.
Yeah, I was initially really bemused at them dumping him somewhat unceremoniously in favour of what I saw as an unnecessary reunion with Belladonna, who then flaked on them again. In fairness though, since he eventually returned full time, they've been fucking awesome.
@@johnafirth John Bush was alright. But it just didn't sound like Anthrax to me. Belladonna was my singer and State Of Euphoria has always been my favorite album from them.
I personally feel like Neil Turbin era of Anthrax is very underrated. Although he only recorded one album with them (being Fistful of Metal) it still is my most favorite out of all Anthrax Albums to come. He just had another level of Power that personally.... to me Belladonna didn't have. Don't get me wrong, Anthrax had some bangers with Belladonna, but Fistful of Metal is just damn good.
My favorite Anthrax album is with John Bush “Sound of White Nose”. “Black Lodge” is an amazing song & really demonstrates how musically talented & versatile the band is.
100% agree.
Man, hard to believe it's been 11 years since Dio died :(
That just killed the guys on That Metal Show!!! Dio was like a metal God to those guys!!
I know, sucks
Dio was my introduction to Metal and I have probably every album he was a part of. Seeing Heaven & Hell live was one of my favourite memories (even if the guy next to me made me laugh because he was ticked off that Dio didn't sing enough Ozzy songs! lol). One of the few celebrities I honestly mourn and miss.
When he said that I had to do some fact checking! Man how time flies.
I was supposed to see him opening for Iron Maiden but then he got ill and had to pull out of the tour
Journey went through several lead singers before settling on Steve Perry for their most famous run
Judas Priest also went through a different lead singer before coming to Rob Halford who also left the band and rejoined it
Dream Theater is another who experimented with different singers until they found James LaBrie
Yes! I saw Journey live with Arnel Pineda and he did a good job on the mic. They are not THAT succesful anymore, but still worth to be set on the list!
Also, Ripper Owens was a great fit for the band in Rob's absence
DT would do very well if they change singer now
Actually no, they had Greg Rolie, their co-founder from the beginning. I always liked the stuff he sang better than Steve Perry (Feelin that Way/Anytime and Just the Same). Greg wasn’t a bad singer at all. You may have heard of Black Magic Woman? Greg sang that while in Santana, with Neil Schon (the other co-founder of Journey).
@@craighenry2351 Aren't you forgetting about Robert Fleischman
A lesser-known example would be when Onslaught changed their lead singer to Steve Grimmett for In Search of Sanity. Loved his singing and love that album.
Hiring Floor Jansen to sing in Nightwish was about the best they could have done. I thought Nightwish was quite dead around 2010 Just to see them rise to greatness
"Chris Barnes has an iconic growl, his voice is instantly recognizable."
The latest SFU album: "Had."
yeah he butchered his voice its unlistenable now.
@@sentenced03 Too much pot will do that to you
@@sentenced03 Agreed. I tried listening to it and failed miserably.
Six Feet Under was the downfall of Chris
Amputator 🤖 *beep boop beep beep*
Candlemass deserves an honorable mention.
Candlemass has had 6 vocalist through the years. All of them have had contributed something great, but Johan Längqvist, Messiah Marcolin and Robert Lowe are the most popular.
Good call. Messiah and Nightfall are the best from Candlemass in my book! I freaking love The Gallow's End!
With Messiah, they made the greatest music video in metal history. It's so terribly perfect.
Well researched/reminded. I have got the Epicus... album and the singing was good. One don't might think of that, regarding the overwhelming figure of Marcolin.
Wait. Shitty music video Candlemass? I thought that band was a meme.
@@MicheallikeMJ Nah man, legit band, and actually pretty decent. I know my local record store sells their albums, which I really should pick up.
This is a cool idea, and I can think of a few more: Faith No More, In Flames, Deep Purple, Shadows Fall, Fleetwood Mac.
Dark Tranquility too. Anders Friden and Mikael Stanne swapped bands.
Oh yeah. It blew my mind to find out Courtney Love was a former lead singer for Faith No More. Could not really picture her singing "Epic" or "Falling To Pieces". I think it was the cover of "War Pigs" on their album "The Real Thing" that made me stand up and want to hear more from them.
Dragonforce's replacement for ZP Theart, Marc Hudson, absolutely kills on Reaching Into Infinity.
Absolutely. Those growls he pulls out on "The Edge of the World" are the best part of an amazing song.
I'd add alice in chains, layne staley's voice And William DuVall's voice both suit the band :)
He said the list was going to be (not because of death),but no, just no
@@derekkeel6329 i think i get what you mean but thats just my opinion
@@derekkeel6329 Jerry Cantrell both sang back-up vocals and wrote most of their songs (except for Man In A Box), so the sound of Alice in Chains is mostly because of Jerry. I can listen to their post-Layne album (Black Gives Way To Blue, which was released about 7 years after Layne passed away) front to back without skipping any songs. 🤟
@@hollyhayes9640 I think BGWTB is still great. The ones after that are not my thing.
I saw them live with Duvall and it was decent. Of course I'd take Layne, but with Cantrell there it was still amazing. I don't even know if Layne would want to play with AIC if he was still alive
I wouldn't say the Three Days Grace split worked
Agree, it’s just not vocally but lyrically & stage presence.
@@ARC117Studios You're right.
When I heard "a singer change that worked", I thought of bands that don't sound too different with the new voice.
Guess I missed the point of this video being more about the band's relevance.
But they complain about Linkin Park
Slipknot comes to mind. In fact, Corey was the reason they were successful as the label hated Anders Colsefni’s voice.
I commented Slipknot before I saw your comment.
That doesn't count, Corey has been their since the debut album
@@fanofgodjimindiva2497 yes he was, but he wasn’t there since Slipknot formed.
MFKR still remains the best Slipknot album for me. It is what got me hooked to their music. Not really digging their new stuff though.
Helloween is definitely one band to be featured in this video.
I'd forgotten all about that
Yes! Came to my mind instantly!
this is a comment i was looking for
And AC/DC
🎶"Ahhhhhh!!!! It's Halloweeeeeen!🎶
I can think of a couple,,,,,,Genesis,,,,,,, The Eagles,,,,,,,Fleetwood Mac,,,,,,,
Love your format and opinions! Since we're talking death metal, Morbid Angel is a good example if we had a top 20. Steven Tucker alternating with David Vincent has been great, at least to me.
Genesis managed to do pretty well after Peter Gabriel left and Phil Collins took over vocals.
I thought theyd be on here tbh , along with Journey.
I clicked on this video expecting Genesis to be number one...
Yes , but the music changed drastically from progressive to pop. I prefer Gabriel by light years.
@@MrSpankee02 They made three great progressive albums without Gabriel, not any worse than what they've done with him.
@@thecandlemaker1329 trick of the tale and wind and wuthering were fine .from there it went downhill in my own opinion.
As others have mentioned Fleetwood Mac is probably the most successful example not listed. No way does Rumours happen without Lindsay and Stevie.
No shit. The album is driven by the drama and bullshit between those two
Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac is some of the best British blues ever made. Total goldmine.
I don't consider that line-up the same group. Changing singers is one thing; complete change of genre (see also Chicago) is another.
Seeing Heaven and Hell twice before Dio passed is something I'll forever be grateful for.
Same!
Same,same ...
I only saw Heaven & Hell Once. I remember being in line for the bathroom during intermission. Someone in line yells out "Ronnie James Dio!" Someone else yells out "Ozzy Osbourne". Not missing a beat, I yell out "Tony Martin!" and everyone starts cracking up laughing. Good times.
Megadeth was absolutely celebrated in the 90s. Rust in peace, countdown to extinction, youthanasia and cryptic writings. The only quote on quote bad album was risk
Megadeth and iron maiden were the only metal bands to stay true to their music through the 90's.
Although risk was a temporary veer off...
Ensiferum is a great example, Jari Mäenpää is an amazing singer who helped setting the tone for the band, when he left, Petri Lindroos knew how to carry on the torch and even make it bigger, they've released some massive bangers with a lot of different styles
Faith no More brought out the big guns with Patton
How could you not mention deep purple? The original lead singer was Rod Evans in 1968. They were basically a pop group. Then they hired Ian Gillan. They put out great albums like in rock, and machine head. The Gillan left in 1973 and they hired David Coverdale. They still headlined cal jam in 1974 with Coverdale an unknown at the time. Or rainbow. The went from Dio, to graham bonnet and then to joe Lynn turner. Had success with all 3 line ups. And you can’t forget journey. Journey released 3 albums before they hired Steve perry. Greg Rollie did most of the vocals, but they were mainly a progressive band. Wouldn’t have been the massive success without Perry. In fact we’re about to lose their record contract. Genesis also. Originally had Peter Gabriel but he left and replaced him with drummer Phil Collins. Had much more success with Collins vocals.
Because almost nobody knows their music except for Smoke on the Water.
Rainbow had Doogie White too for reunion in 1990s, released one record which shared some writing credits with Candice Night and immediately paved the way for Blackmore's Night... As to Deep Purple, they had a few pop rock songs like Hush and Emmaretta, but most of early album material was prog-rock with psychodelic vibes, check out the epic track April or the Shield.
Blackmore IIRC said that they had NO idea which direction to take band into until they heard Led Zeppelin and decided "that's it". Then tons of work was made by Martin Birch, also famous for being sound engineer for Iron Maiden's best period and Dio era Rainbow as we come full circle.
DP are just amazing in how they were winging it for so much time: tons of plagitarism they confessed to, as in, material stolen, sometimes from bands they were jamming at the time. Jon Lord and Richie both confessed to that in interviews. Highway Star was written to show a reporter how the songwriting process works. Not surprising, since it's basically chugging the G note.
Also they never knew Smoke on the Water, a FILLER SONG, would be a hit: it's written literally about someone stupid with a flare gun burning the place to the ground, on the lake Geneva short, during sessions in Zappa's studio. SO at early concerts fans kept requesting it and they didn't even play the solo because it was improvised in studio and Blackmore didn't rehearse or memorize it! D:
This band was always the essence of Rock N' Roll, THEY DID NOT GIVE A SHIT.
Derrick Green replacing Max in Sepultura. I know he doesn't sound like Max, but he's still in the band & has never left so I would say that has been successful. "Machine Messiah" & "Quadra" are really good albums imo.
In my mind Derrick is more their frontman than Max ever was. Max doesn't really have any range and isn't very articulate, like his vocal stylings are very limited.
Arise and Chaos AD are amazing albums and while they had a rough go when Derrick started with the band, they really grew as band and made their best music in the last decade. Machine Messiah and Quadra are just fantastic!
I love Sepultura soooo much more now with Derrick. Sepultura with Derrick Green is my favourite band!
Sepultura still putting out great records. I love the max era records specially BTR and Arise but my favorite Sepultura album by far is Dante XXI... Quadra and Machine Messiah are amazing records.. i find Derrick's vocals more menacing than max...
And there are no actual original members in Sepultura either. Yet they are out there as Sepultura. Kinda weird... Maybe if this dude who posted this video could do better fact checking on things like, Johan Liiva starting Arch enemy with Michael Ammott and not stating that Johan was of Carcass fame instead of Michael, I'd suggest he do a segment on bands that record and tour under a popular name, yet nobody in the band are original. Hell, I think Quiet Riot would even fall under that category at this point.
Angra (another brazilian metal band) is also a fine example. Although they were already successful, they reached their top with the second singer.
I've seen both Dio and Ozzy singing for Black Sabbath in live concerts. I can die happy.
Fates Warning, progressive metal pioneers. The change from John Arch to Ray Alder worked great and both versions of the band are amazing.
I agree with this statement 100%.
I came here hoping Nightwish would be mentioned, since I'm someone who has enjoyed every singer's approach and related albums. I'm glad they were included. I know it's a metal centric video, and they're by no means underground, but over the years I've been very used to people having no idea who they are.
Of course, they've now lost their best singer, Marco.
@@mickandbobby I saw that! I'm pretty crushed... while all the members are so important to the band, him and Tuomas feel like what's kept it Nightwish despite so many other people coming and going. It's a bit heartbreaking to see him go.
@@mickandbobby they will be fine without him as they still have Floor and troy.
Simultaneously with Dio joining Black Sabbath, there was his previous band Rainbow taking in Graham Bonnet and then Joe Lynn Turner.
And then they disbanded for a bit (Because Richie Blackmore is also a classic member for Deep Purple), then rebanded, making "The stranger in us all" album with Doogie White on lead vocals, disbanded *again,* then rebanded again with some guy called Ronnie Romero.
Fleetwood Mac bringing in Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks comes to mind.
Fleetwood Mac do belong on this list! If you play their trademark LP "Rumors" (1977) back-to-back with their 1968 s/t debut it is hard-to-believe it's the same band!
Hell yes. Half or less of a band without them.
I think what kept them from this list is that they never really had one lead singer. It sure was the change that made them worldwide stars though.
Yes! Journey, Iron Maiden and Metal Church as well!
Bob Welch gets no respect. So underrated.
i know anthrax is underrated but 90's was a pretty good experimental time for them, the sound of white noise is my second favorite album from them and either state of euphoria or for all kings is my favorite
Another fun thing about the Dio transition was how the band had to adjust to Dio singing over the melody, as opposed to Ozzy singing with the melody. It's a seemingly small detail until you notice it - then it makes each song even more different than before.
Songwriting is completely different, yeah. Each vocalist was unique. Most underrated one is Ian Gillan, who broke his vocal cords screaming with them on a tour, never heard Sabbath before his audition and was surprised having them ask him to play Smoke on the Water. Born Again is INSANE album. And songwriting was very Deep Purple style, for example, Disturbing the Priest was just them jamming when a priest, well, complained... that they were disturbing them. This level of not-giving-shit is absolute Machine Head vibes.
Still, I think Dio's best work is in Rainbow... His own band too. While Sabbath had amazing stuff with Tony Martin as well. Headless Cross is just very melancholic.
Ac/dc didn’t miss a beat after bon Scott died. Brian Johnson took them to larger heights. I know it’s the death clause.
But they didn’t have to do a big search for a new singer! And didn’t have to search long anyway
I don't think you can talk about successful lineup changes without Dance Gavin Dance.
More than once, no less.
and each time they keep getting better
Kurt,Johnny, and Tillian all add such a unique flavor to the band.
Was looking for this comment
Who?
Bruce Dickinson had become such an iconic singer by the time he left that I don't think anyone could have replaced him and been well received. Blaze Bayley had an absolutely impossible job and looking back he doesn't bear any grudges. His work with classically trained guitarist Thomas Zwijsen is a lot of fun and really shows both his and Bruce's Maiden songs in a new light. His solo work is equally impressive. Blaze could have been huge had circumstances been different, but Bruce is an icon. Bonus points for bringing Adrian back too!
It didn't help that the X-Factor wasn't exactly the best album to make a good first impression with. A more traditional Maiden album would've done him a huge favor.
Just found this video and completely new to your channel but excellent list gave a like and going to subscribe cheers
Faith No More. The switch from Chuck Mosley to Mike Patton was necessary and very beneficial one.
I'm gonna say likin park because they changed to Chester before their first album.
Also creed basically became alter bridge so I'm counting that too
On that note would Audioslave count, it's basically just RATM without de le Rocha?
@@DeLorean58 yeah absolutely
None of them counts, as Chester had been with Linkin Park for their entire recording career, and Creed didn't stay Creed when they got the (much better) Myles Kennedy; they literally became a new band. So did RATM who became Audioslave.
Creed and Alter Bridge the same band?
I mean, I like both of them, but Creed was a (post-Grunge/Christian) Rock band and Alter Bridge is (Alternative) Metal.
I wouldn't even consider them to be similar!
But everyone hears diffently, I guess
@@bobthebear1246 didn't Chris Cornell sing for both sound garden and Audioslave
Saw Iron Maiden live at the Glen Helen Arena in SoCal. Ghost was one of their openers and it is still to this day one of the best concerts I've ever been too. I wish I had been able to see Van Halen before Eddie passed but Maiden is one of those performances I will have forever
I was at that show too!! Also saw Metallica with Suicidal Tendencies there.
I'd like to add Helloween. From Kai Hansen to Michael Kiske to Andi Deris to all of them. And it always worked.
Related, Gamma Ray. Kai Hansen looked for a singer in Helloween because he found it hard to sing and play at the same time in tour. His first pick was Ralf Scheepers from Primal Fear, but the rest chose Kiske, who had two legendary and two horrible albums that led to his firing. In his new band, Kai got Ralf to sing, but after a few good albums dropped him and returned to singing himself, changing the band's style to more Speed Metal. It was great!
Meanwhile, for a short period of time we had three amazing bands, Primal Fear, Helloween (with Andi Deris), and Gamma Ray, churning out classic records while Kiske was busy hating on Metal fans on MySpace... unfortunately it ended and they had to ruin this by touring with old songs and three vocalists.
Slipknot, when Anders Colsefni left and the great big mouth Corey Taylor joined
Dream Theater, when Charlie Dominici left and James LaBrie joined
Without both of these singers in these bands, these bands would not be what they are today
Deep Purple, Faith No More, Fleetwood Mac, Genesis, Journey, & Pantera. You should definitely see Iron Maiden if you ever get the chance. My favorite band to see live
Another Dio band RAINBOW also changed singers a few times and they were all great!
My favorite was Joe Lynn Turner.
@@motherofchaos5519 Same.
Yeah, the first I heard of Rainbow was Since you’ve been gone and that was Graham Bonnett.
Rainbow is Ritchie Blackmore's band, not Dio's. It is basically like Van Halen, the band can replace singers, it is Blackmore that cant be replaced.
Blackmore is replaceable. Deep Purple existed more years without Ritchie than with him.
Judas Priest actually had a different singer before Halford. And Tim Owens is underrated.
Black Sabbath did a great album with Glenn Hughes.
I really like Bullet Train and Cathedral Spires from Jugulator, but their second album with Ripper was a bit duff. And Sabbath, man, they've had about fifty singers. The Gillan album would have had a better reception under another name. It wasn't a bad album, just wasn't a Sabbath album.
To my knowledge, they never recorded anything with Al Atkins so it really doesn't count. Some of their early material did incorporate some of material that was written by Atkins (Victim of Changes incorporates part of a song called "Whiskey Woman" that Atkins wrote with Tipton for example) but that's the extent of his contribution to the band.
@@tmage23 they did several demos and toured for like 5 years
Judas Priest had a whole different band. All the original* members were gone by the time they recorded their first album.
@@ascii7085 yes and no. The 2nd iteration had KK and Atkins and Ian Hill. They actually wrote songs that were in about 2/3rds of Rocka Rolla before the change over to Halford. That's why that album doesn't really sound a lot like Priest.
Seen Maiden live 3 times, once on my honeymoon. Incredible every time. Bruce brings it as songwriter and singer but also as a massive presence on stage. Energetic, charismatic, loud and fun. Nobody could ever quite fill that hole. (Also, now a cancer survivor. Dude is tough.)
THE Bruce Dickinson.......
For the longest time Bruce's song writing seemed to be his one weakness, Steve is hard to beat song wise, but then Bruce gave us Empire of the Clouds...
@@donaldcampbell3043 that's why I didn't like his solo career. I heard the album Tattooed Millionaire, besides one or two songs, the songs on it really put me off listening to any other of his solo music
@@donaldcampbell3043 Bruce's main contribution is quality control; Bayley is a great singer but with him, Steve Harris got TOO MUCH creative control and recorded/mixed stuff on his own, which drowned out guitars and filled albums with droning long songs which were too complex for their own good. Bruce being back didn't improve their singing (he still can't do Lord of the Flies), but the album production. Compare Virtual XI with Brave New World, it's night and day!
I’d drop 3DG not a fan of how they edit Matt’s voice in the studio to sound more gritty like Adam and sound completely different live, then add either AC/DC or saliva AC/DC is known to have one of the best singer replacements in history and Bobby has done an awesome job with saliva by keeping same feel with the classic songs live while putting his own sound into them.
Also worth mentioning that Nightwish also changed their male vocalist, from Tuomas, via a couple of guests to Marko.
Woo new video!
Woo I need 100K views!
@@RockedNet I love your symbiosis XD
Fan of both channels
I’m subbed to beyond ARTV & Crash Thompson also... Luke, your bros make some solid content, that’s for sure!
Rainbow was a success with almost revolving door of singers. Dio, Bonnet and Turner.
Since You've Been Gone is a killer song, and every Dio era song is near perfect lmao
@@PerceptionsofFate and it continued into Joe Lynn Turner with songs like Jealous Lover and Stone Cold.
After Bonnet Rainbow was dead. I just don't like Turner, as I don't like Collins. They may have had more success, but I don't like both of them and I don't like the music their bands played.
Even though Rob Halford is the voice of Judas Priest, Tim Owens aka The Ripper did a great job. Jugulator is underrated. And he also did well for Iced Earth. I will add Deep Purple, Rainbow, Pantera, and Misfits.
Gotta feel bad for Tim Owens. Always a replacement singer, but one hell of a good one.
@@mickandbobby He deserves some serious credit
Jugulator is super underrated, the filler tracks are solid and the best tracks are top shelf Judas Priest.
You absolutely cannot count Owens. He could hit all the notes, but he lacked Rob Halford's charisma; plus, he couldn't write songs. I had *Jugulator* and it sux balls.
@@bobthebear1246 who cares about charisma, the music matters the most. You are just a hipster on the bandwagon
It'd be interesting to hear a list of bands that managed to become more popular after they changed their style or genre. First one that pops to mind is Gary Numan, who went from electronica to goth metal and made it work. It's very rare bands can pull off a change of sound and still be liked or find a crowd.
Lacuna Coil: Cristina Scabbia, she was the female backup singer that became the primary lead.
Triviuim: Matt Heafy took a backseat from lead vocalist after damaging his vocal chords, but returned to lead when fans and band members wanted to return to their roots. (citation needed)
Another band that changed singers and it worked was Deep Purple. Kinda like Iron Maiden, when the band switched from Rod Evans to Ian Gillen, the band really kicked off with Deep Purple in Rock, Burn, and Machine Head. In my opinion, it even worked when Deep Purple Mk III rolled around and went in a different direction with David Coverdale (yes the Whitesnake guy) and Glenn Hughes shared singing duties for Burn (bona fide classic, I will die on this hill) and Stormbringer (admittedly not as good as Burn, but I still enjoy it for what it is).
Just as a side note: We *cannot* forget that the band "Heaven and Hell" was essentially a Dio-era Sabbath reunion under a different name. "Devil You Know" is still one of my all time favourite albums, and it showed Dio was still strong vocally shortly before his death. R.I.P Ronnie James Dio. Your legend will live on, always.
The Devil You Know is a Sabbath album in all but name. It's the Mob Rules lineup and I agree, it sounded great, heavy and gloomy. I think they used the Heaven and Hell name so as to not confuse the Ozzy reunion Sabbath lineup with the Dio lineup. Dio's one of the only ones who got harder as he aged.
They also have a box-set of Dio era Sabbath with three new songs, Bible Black, Ear in the Wall, and Shadow of the Wind... People made mixtapes with them, some random B-sides and guest appearances, and the final Dio single, Electra, which was supposed to lead to Magica 2, the best album that never was.
Jinjer switching from Maksym to Tatiana after their first EP worked out for them kind of like Bruce worked out for Iron Maiden. It's hard to imagine Jinjer without Tati. I know the band tends to say their official formation was when she joined but c'mon, they had already released *Objects in Mirror Are Closer than They Appear* under the name Jinjer in 2009.
Dream Theater was successful in a lead singer change. In fact, I'd say that pretty much all their success has been since James Labrie joined the band, even though I enjoy their first album quite a lot.
KKE really set the bar on another level concerning positive vibes among former and current band members it seems.
Love lads and one masterpiece after another!
Symphony X is my pick. On their self titled debut, Rod Tyler was on vocals. He wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t until they brought in Russell Allen on their second album, The Damnation Game, that they got an extra boost in power. Seriously, Russell Allen is one of the best metal vocalists of all time and Symphony X is severely underrated
happy to see someone bring up SX, one of my all time favorite bands and easily the one that got me into Symphonic Metal.
There's a duet with Russell Allen and Floor Jansen. ReVamp - Sweet Curse
Kamelot had a similar fate when they hired Roy Khantatat... I kinda associate these two Prog/Power bands with each other because they always stood apart from others by having a breakout with a deep-voiced singer. In a genre where everyone wants to hire a screechy icepick vocalist. Shame Khan left.
I kinda liked the Rainbow albums past Dio... Even Dio said that the album after him was a great album
I loved the Rainbow stuff post Dio
Graham Bonnet is one hell of a singer.
I don't think he did, but I do love Graham Bonnet and I liked *Down To Earth.*
I’d personally add Helloween to the list. When Michael Kiske joined they made classics, when he left and Andi Deris joined they made even more classics (look me in the eyes and tell me that The Dark Ride is a bad album, I dare you)
It's not bad, but a little bit disappointing after the magnificent Better Than Raw and The Time Of The Oath
Most remarkable is that these singers stepped over their ego's and sung together is recent tours, making their live performances even better!
@@geeache1891 yeah, when I heard them do Forever & One together as a duet I was blown away. It was so beautiful
Glad you covered Nightwish and the litany of female vocalists - I am a huge fan of Floor Jansen, she is by far the best of them.
Dragonforce is one that always comes to mind with successful singer changes, ZP was great, but when Mark joind the band really stepped up
PANTERA... Phil Anselmo took Terry Glaze's place. The Dillinger Escape Plan Greg Puciato replaced Dimitri Minakakis. Sepultura Derrick Green replaced Max Cavalera. MISFITS Michale Graves replaced Glenn Danzig.
I honestly think Stone Temple Pilots with Jeff Gutt is a great transition in singers. Their stint with Chester Bennington was also good, but I felt Chester's lower range didn't hit quite like Scott. But Jeff is able to keep that sound alive without feeling too much like he's emulating those who came before him. I also have a soft spot for Jeff as I've been following his career since Dry Cell.
How the hell did Chester Bennington have a "lower range" than Scott Weiland?!? Chester was a tenor, Scott a baritone. 🤣
@@bobthebear1246 he never said Chester had a lower range than Scott. He said Chester's lower range didn't hit the same way Scott's did.
Reading is fundamental.
Anna Murphy’s departure from Eluveitie was sad, but her new act Cellar Darling is pretty okay and her replacement Fabienne Erni has a good voice too.
Who?!
I expect old-school Genesis fans might take me to task for this, but here goes: I think Phil Collins filled Peter Gabriel's shoes quite well when the latter went solo, and the band found mainstream commercial success of such a kind that may not have happened had Gabriel stuck around. And going solo didn't work out so badly for Peter Gabriel, either.
I _almost_ agree. Personally, I like Phil better than Peter, but I don't think he was really the reason. They did 2 albums after Gabriel left that got very little attention. It wasn't until _And Then There Were Three,_ when Steve Hackett left, that Genesis really hit big
If you want some recent examples:
Of Mice & Men going from Shayley Bourget & Austin Carlile to Aaron Pauley
Dance Gavin Dance going from Jonny Craig to Tilian Pearson
Underoath going from Dallas Taylor to Spencer Chamberlain
Hollywood Undead going from Deuce to Danny
Bad Wolves going from Tommy Vext to DL Laskiewicz (arguably)
In Flames broke through big when Anders Fridén joined on vocals.
Speaking of In Flames, a fun subject for a video would be bands with no original members in the lineup.
But Anders Frieden have chucked out the creativity out of the window post 2010s, making their early albums aged badly.
Who?!
Here's my list.
Dance Gavin Dance & Emarosa:
As much as I love Jonny Craig's singing ability, yeah I had no problem saying good riddance in the 2010's. & My money will always go to Kurt Travis, but the stuff we got from Tilian is still killer!
As for Emarosa, Bradley Walden is still keeping the band going & each album w/ him has been getting better than the last. So that's good!
From First To Last:
While their best stuff is hands down w/ Sonny Moore, the albums we got w/o him were still pretty solid in their own way, hell Spencer from Periphery was on vocal duty at one point! But I'm glad that Sonny returned & the latest singles w/ him have been growing on me.
The Human Abstract:
Speaking of From First To Last, their former guitarist Travis Richter stepped in as their vocalist after Nathan Ellis left. & While I wouldn't say that Digital Veil is better than the other 2 albums w/ Ellis, it's still a lot of fun to listen to. Sadly the band went on hiatus after Digital Veil (like Immediately after!) & Odds of them returning seem kinda low... But hey if At The Drive In, Underoath & Tool came back to us anything is possible!!!
Chiodos:
CRAIG. OWENS. IS. HARD. TO. REPLACE!!! That being said... BRANDON. BOLMER. DESERVES. MORE. CREDIT. FOR. ILLUMINAUDIO!!!
A Skylit Drive:
For a while I didn't know that Michael wasn't the original singer of this band. & After listening to their first ep w/ Jordan, damn I honestly don't know which era I prefer. (Probably the Michael Jagmin era because we got more music out of it... At least Jordan's stuff w/ Watchout! There's Ghosts was not too shabby!)
Blink 182:
... I really like the stuff we got w/ Matt. Is it as good as the self titled, or Take Off Your Pants or Enema Of The State? No, but at least they weren't Neighborhoods!
Blessthefall:
Not gonna lie, the 1st album w/ Craig Mabbit was kinda not that great. But 2 things.
1.) At least he found a home in Escape The Fate after Ronnie Radke left.
2.) The stuff w/ Beau has never disappointed me. (But as always to each their own!)
& Finally Of Mice & Men & Jamie's Elsewhere:
Aaron Pauley saved the band many times, once after Shaley left & again after a pretty disappointing album in 2016 & after Austin eventually left the band.
&... Pauley's original band Jamie's Elsewhere found a new singer after he left & their 2014 album w/ him definitely slapped hard. & I heard that they've returned just recently. & They're putting out new music!
Agreed on all these. Especially Illuminaudio. Such a great album
@Richard Williams I was gonna add Escape The Fate on here, as much as I dislike Ronnie the dude was a powerhouse vocalist back in the day.
Who?!
Pretty much agree with a majority of picks. Only two that I felt needed to be mentioned were Deep Purple from Mark 1-Mark 2's lineup changes, and especially when Faith No More's Chuck Mosley was replaced by Mike Patton. Kind of funny to think Ian Gillan of Deep Purple was also very briefly in Black Sabbath for Born Again (which is not one of their best but I like it for what it is), and how Dio was lead singer of Rainbow before joining Black Sabbath, which weirdly enough was Ritchie Blackmore's project after leaving Deep Purple. But in all sincerity, great video and I'm curious to see what the next tier list, All Time Favorite or Regretting the Past when it comes out.
DIO's last album Heaven and Hell (Black Sabbath) - 'The Devil You Know' is an underrated masterpiece, RIP 🤘
I would throw in Journey on this list. I honestly can't remember the guy's name but he sounds almost identical to Steve Perry. I've seen Journey twice and both times, if I closed my eyes I almost couldn't tell the difference. This is a really cool video! Thanks!
I was always the odd man out for preferring Dio to Ozzy in Black Sabbath in my middle school metal head clique. I still really like listening to the full of Live Evil, where you can see Dio's ability shine through on some of the songs originally done by Ozzy.
I love the lack of audience on Live Evil compared to other live albums. It adds to the bleak, eerie atmosphere. My only issue with the album is that Dio's opening line of 'Iron Man' seems less like a machine and more like the devil finishing a good meal
Heaven & Hell was a better band than Black Sabbath. Live Evil isnt really live. The live Heaven & Hell cds blow it away
Dream Theater, Kamelot, and Journey all come to mind.
I just can't get into Journey post Perry wise. I have tried really hard. But the songs just don't hit me as much as Steve Perry's contributions.
King Crimson. They've gone through many lead singer changes throughout the years, all of them amazing.
Best singer was still their first one: Greg Lake…
Who?!
King Crimson is a great band when talking about non vocal instruments but when it comes to vocals and lyrics - one of the worst. I have listened to most of their material.
@@SophiaAphrodite you need to hear their first album - In The Court of the Crimson King
A lot of people don't really like his vocals, but James Labrie replacing Charles Dominici in Dream Theater from Images and Words onwards worked pretty well
"Smut Rock" has to be the best description of My Darkest Days I've ever heard. 🤣
These are the bands that immediately come to my mind:
- Pantera
- Iron Maiden
- AC/DC
- Anthrax
The change in vocalist for AC/DC was because of the death of Bon Scott, and this Rocked list specifically omits changes due to death. That being said, AC/DC was the first to spring to my mind as well.
@@sandeesandwich2180 Regardless of why there was a change there was a change there was nothing in the description that said that was a requirement that they either left on their own or were fired as the only reason the change happened.
The band I immediately think about when talking about changing singers which works for everythink is Savatage. Jon Oliva as well as Zak Stevens were amazing singers for the band and I absolutely love both styles of the band.
Yes, another fan of the Tage.
Of course one of the top 3 guitarists of all time is irreplaceable lol. The band itself is literally named after him n his brother. They weren't called Lee Roth, or Hagar! They were Van Halen! And Mr Guitar God himself wasn't just one of the greatest because of technical mastery, but also because of his influence and ability to change and think outside the box. HE WAS THE SHOW when Van Halen toured. Of course people came to see David and Sammy, but Eddie Van Halen made it more than just a show or concert. He made it a monumental event. That man could play a small solo or even arpeggio, and even a normal person, who knows nothing about guitar, would stop and listen and automatically know that whoever is on that guitar is something very special. I've never been a big Van Halen fan as a band. I know, I'm dumb as rocks, but I've known since I was in elementary school that the man playing THAT GUITAR is a ONCE EVER talent
When The Gathering changed from Anneke van Giersbergen to Silje Wergland the group lost some fans, sadly. However, after listening (repeatedly) to 'The West Pole' and especially 'Disclosure' and related works, along with Silje's prior work in Octavia Sperati, I find that she fits *perfectly* with the direction of The Gathering. I love TG as much with Silje as I do with Anneke. Also on 'Disclosure', the song 'Pale Traces' was made with the delightful Marcela Bovio and it's a knockout song.