Do Kids Today Care About Animals?
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The video: Do kids today care about animals?
I spoke with these 2 about veganism and animals and I got a bit of a mixed bag, what do you think?
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Being vegan doesn’t do anything to save animals they will still kill animals you just won’t eat them
@davidramms Hey mate, I'd love if you could possibly do an interview with 'Gillian Berry' on the benefits of raw veganism and fruitarianism and just animal rights activism in general if you get the time.
@@LouisGedo those kids are by far more intelligent than the STUPID vegan.
"I could never be vegan" said almost every vegan ever. Great outreach
ayo it's Maggie from the vegan discord
LETS GO MAGGIE!!!
Not nearly as awesome let’s go Brandon
I was like that except that while going vegetarian and giving up meat wasn't much of a struggle (it was just a matter of learning cooking with tofu for me tbh) I was like "I could never give up cheese and milk chocolate". Then it was my girlfriend that eventually made me aware that the dairy industry was as screwed up and full of abuse as meat industry and then it became a no brainer. Sure, it was a bit of a struggle at first but I finally found alternatives. And I see more and more of cool stuff popping up in stores so I feel like every next person that wants to go vegan will have it a lot easier than you or me. Give it a couple of years and it will become so easy there will be like no excuses left. We just need to keep spreading awareness because it sounded to me like they guy here wasn't ever aware that it's actually possible to be a body builder and a vegan at the same time. So it only goes to show that the reason many people aren't vegan is because they think that we're still at the "it tastes like cardboard and has no proteins" stage. But seeing that we can do something to open the kids' minds up a bit I feel even more motivated for fighting towards the change :)
Cool kids, very good conversation.
Reaching the young generation is so important
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This interview proves that most people just need a SLIGHT PUSH to think about animal rights more critically. At the beginning it was "never go vegan" and by the end they were ready to give it a go! Keep up the fine work Mr. Ramms! We are all learning from these videos
That'll happen when you manipulate kids that don't have a fully developed brain
They seem like smart kids. I hope they think about it.
Why would they, it’s not us to change their lifestyles
Worry about your own life instead of trying to control other peoples
these guyyyyyys! great conversation I loved the conclusion!! 🤍
legend, this is why being fit is important as a vegan activist. They can't pull the protein/vegans are weak card.
They can though because plants excluding tofu are incomplete sources of protein and all plants are less bioavailable than meat.
@@ryanwellington7493 Probably not a big deal for the average person and if were talking about bodybuilders its just knowing your food well enough to get the right protein as a vegan. Educating ones self is key.
@@ryanwellington7493 It's all complete protein as long as you eat a variety of plant-based foods
@@Mag_1418 it's not complete protein, look up the definition of a complete protein. It's not just having all the amino acids, it's having them in balance proportions. Yeah you have to combine multiple different plant proteins to get the benefits of a complete protein which proves my point.
Actually not really since it's a bad example to prove that eating vegan doesn't make you weak. Single case isn't a solid proof. But I agree that a strong vegan guy could avoid that discussion more than others.
Great job, David! I participate in a Cube of Truth on Sunday's in La s Vegas, and this week there was a group of boys (approx 15 years old), who were coming up one or two at a time, and several of the activists took time to speak to them. Turned out, they were trolling us, so when they walked by again, a couple of our male activists walked up close to them, in their faces and walked them out of there. Little $hits 😞
Thanks!
Thank you ✊🏻
Carnivore and dairy eater for life
@@maxmcintyre5068no
I wanted to go vegetarian back when I lived with my parents but that was back before one ever heard of veganism. It is all so easy to do now, and I find absolutely no viable excuse not to stop eating any animal products. Soy milk was revolutionary in the 80s and now there are so many different types of plant-based milks and our taste buds do change. I came to dislike cow's milk a lot after moving away from drinking it and using it on cereals and cooking. These kids are simply doing what their parents and friends do and some people never get away from that at all. I know someone who claimed he "believed in the food chain" but he was totally unable to support his rationalization.
Soy milk if you can even call it that is nowhere near as nutrient dense as actual milk. Just because you can get used to the taste doesn't mean it's a viable replacement
@@ryanwellington7493you don’t need cows milk in your diet. No “replacement” needed
Back to the point. You
Why do you participate in animal abuse?
@@ryanwellington7493 Yes it doesn't contain all the hormones and pus/blood and sat fat found in cows milk.
Enjoy your flavorless existence.
@@ryanwellington7493so what?
Best thing I ever did was to go Vegan 7 years ago. Thank you for this very important work for our animal friends that are suffering profoundly.
Do you eat organic plants? If not I've got news for you that you're not gonna like 😂
Organic is dumb@@ryanwellington7493
Great outreach, thank you💚💚
my mother fought her parents from 5 years old when they killed her pet chicken for dinner...and she brought up my brother and myself vegetarian and then we all turned vegan 15 years ago when a wonderful vegan educated me on the cruelty in dairy and eggs..its just a question of being honest with oneself...tradition, convenience and pleasure are not excuses for causing cruelty and death
Things that didn't happen for 500, Alex.
08:02 Free range = 1 big cage.
@@Kindle-ws9qb Yeah imagine if we bred women to constantly have periods so that we could use their menstruations. Keeping them in sheds up to their ankles in their own feceas and never getting to see sunlight. You didn't think that one through did you?
Not bothered either way.
Love these conversations, great job! And I applaud those 2 young men for their compassion.. thank you both, so glad to see young people are more open minded these days, and thank you as well David 💚
Not eating animal products is the least anyone can do to help the animals.
You literally couldn't be more wrong and it's terrible for human health considering hominins got 70+% of their food intake from animals for the last 2 million years. You can't just flip a switch and decide to change that overnight, it would take hundreds of thousands of years to evolve back to a predominantly plant based diet and would also require natural selection which would mean a lot of human death.
Non vegan for life
Awesome stuff as usual! These kids are future vegans.
Poor kids
I was 16 when I became vegan. I used to eat pasta/chips, peas and gravy for tea every day. I ate hardly any fruit or vegetables, and there were no burgers, yoghurts, cheese or any of the stuff you can get these days. I’ve been vegan for 17 years (I eat much better now) and haven’t died and never get ill.
Love your outreach style David. Keep it up. Those two have serious animal loving potential
Where do animals get their protein from? Elephants, Zebra Gorillas?
You're expressing common sense. Many people don't get common sense. Apart from Western lowland gorillas, which eat some termites and ants, gorillas are vegetarians. Pound for pound, they're the strongest animals on earth.
@@markj7612 Don't forget Orangutans and bonobo Apes that are completely Vegan.
Chimos are part time vegans as they kill out of war.
But the guy before who you said had common sense showed no common sense.
His rhetorical Q was: " Where do animals get their proteins from?" This greatest of all great comedians answered :" Elephants , Zebras, and ...".
Wow, I couldn't contain the laughter.
The thing is , he was way off mark and incorrect.
If he'd said : where do PREDATORY animals get their protein from he wouldn't have been a fool to himself to say' other animals'.
However, he just said " animals".
Most animals are herbivores and get their protein from plants; especially the ones we eat!
Stupid comment . Different animals have different requirements. Cow get protien and short chain fats from bacteria that grow in their stomaches... we cant do thar
@@markj7612common sense would be realising gorillas evolved for a completely different environment, have a way longer cecum than humans, have different digestive enzymes, gut bacteria and metabolic processes which allows them to digest plants efficiently unlike us.
@@ryanwellington7493 Utter nonsense.
Great activism. Caring about animals shows true character. ❤
Macka B has a really good song about vegan "Wha Me Eat". It really wakes people up about how many foods vegans eat.
This guy is easily the best debater ive seen. Nice kids too, good luck to em.
But is he a masdebater
Against kids 😂
People still believe this protein stuff?
now more than ever . . . .
There is some truth to it, plant based proteins are usually incomplete meaning their essential amino acids are not balanced excluding tofu and all plant based protein has terrible bioavailability
@@ryanwellington7493 well yes, but nobody only eats one thing right. So I don't see why people keep bringing up protein as an issue if you're plant based. As long as you eat a variety of foods, as we usually do, you'll be fine. It's not that deep, people talk like you have to eat meat to get protein to this day
@@allandm which means you have to consume high quantities of plants to reach your protein intake, something Humans aren't adapted to do because we don't have the correct metabolic processes, digestive enzymes, gut bacteria, digestive tract structure to digest plants efficiently or safely. Plants also have self defense chemicals which become toxic in high enough quantities and antinutrients which affect the absorption of nutrients. Meat is necessary, Hominins have eaten meat for around 4.5 million years and it's made up 70+% of hominins diet for 2 million years, you'd have to change our anatomy and physiology to become herbivores/frugivores again which would take hundreds of thousands of years and natural selection which would kill a lot of people. Also meat isn't just protein, there are over 20 million known compounds in beef alone and thousands more are discovered every year, try and replicate that with plants.
@@ryanwellington7493 so you're saying that the american association of dietetics and nhs public health uk are.. lying about plant based diets? Are all the plant based 'gym bros' also lying and secretly eating meat? It just doesn't add up
Great video, seemed like decent kids
For cheap vegan eggs you can go to an asian market for mung beans and black salt
Great conversation! I believe in them!
No excuse for animal abuse, live vegan 💗💗💗
This was a great conversation.
Very well done, David! I hope they think about it and go vegan. They seem smart and compassionate enough to
They seem really good guys. They did not go on and on about excuses
Nice kids. Funny that their opening gambit was I need protein right in front of someone the size of David😂
Well done David! Definitely gave them plenty to think about. If they're against this depressing system they need to make every effort to become vegan...
No you need to focus on stopping factory farming not meat consumption. Regeneratively farmed animals are sustainable, healthy for us, healthy for the healthy and healthy for the ecosystem.
Where is your science, your evidence sir!
You make uneducated statements without anything to back it up. You must be from the Allen Savory school of misinformation spreading!!
There are countless studies that show us that a vegan (plant-based for you if you want to skip the ethical angle) diet (especially 'well-planned') is one in which we can thrive.
Just look at all the examples around you: Novak Djokovic (possibly the greatest athlete of all time), Billie Eilish, John Bishop, etc., need I go on of people who have adopted this approach to eating. These are not 'faddists' dabbling in a bit of veganism and participating in something they don't understand...
The last two mentioned do this because they are incredibly sensitive to the atrocities (accurate description) that are committed against animals in the name of a temporary gustatory pleasure.
@@ryanwellington7493the only way to do that is to stop supporting them - that means stopping buying animal products
If only there were a wires for that
@@ryanwellington7493sources?
Well appreciate you not completely guilt tripping them. Though they were pretty honest at the start, witch I would bet holds true for them.
Thank you for speaking up for animals 💖💖💖💖
I went vegetarian when I moved out from my parents house and vegan 2yrs later. That was over 30 yrs ago. I wish I'd done it sooner. Love the Metallica 'Kill 'em All' style T-shirt - great idea. 🤘
"I like my meat" - it's not *your* meat, bro.
Glad this guy works out
Which one?
@@ryanwellington7493David
Great outreach with humour, these lads seem open minded at least , hopefully one day they'll be able to go vegan.
Non vegan and dairy life for me
Hopefully they stay ominvore, the healthiest diet
But…but…what about plant sentience and mycelial consciousness? Where’s the justice for the plants and mushrooms? Just because they don’t have a communicable pain response, they don’t matter? Why does grass smell when it’s cut? So many mysteries.
Setting aside the fallacious appeal to hypocrisy. It doesn't make sense to treat plants like proven sentient beings because you have provided no evidence that they're sentient.
@@petrov706 depends on your definition of sentience I guess. You could say plants and fungi don’t have the same cult-like activism that animals do in regard to studying their “feelings”. Fallaciousness aside, there are plenty studies of plants and fungi displaying traits of rudimentary intelligence, like responses to stimuli out side of those typically found in nature like music, spatial awareness and decision making (especially in regards to sources of nutrition), and the rudiments of what we might perceive as short term memory. My point is that, despite the lack of neurons, they display many of the complex behaviors that could be associated with cognition. So where do we draw the line? Because, we don’t have a concrete understanding of plant and fungal “neurobiology” we should treat them differently? That being said, I eat my spinach just as easily as my steak.
@@johnnyjohnson1027Even if we grant that the studies you've alluded to show that plant intelligence is significant, it doesn't mean that they've showed that they're sentient. As an example, most forms of AI are intelligent but aren't necessarily sentient, on the flip side, koalas are sentient but aren't particularly smart. Sentience means something like having a subjective experience, in other words, an organism is sentient if and only if it feels like something to be that organism. Now technically we can't know for sure that any organism is sentient (including other humans).
But we can infer it, as an example. If I'm a sentient organism and I see another organism that acts exactly the same as I do, it makes more sense to assume that that organism is sentient. now having said that, not to be rude or anything, but you have not met your burden of proof for plant sentience. Could you provide studies or an argument that actually show plant sentience? Not intelligence.
@@petrov706 right…intelligence doesn’t equal sentience but sentience doesn’t equal sapience. I’ve never been for killing nigh-sapient species like elephants, dolphins, parrots, etc. I said what I said previously to point out that arguments for both sides are subjective based on personal beliefs. There are plenty of studies noting instances of joy, pain, and fear in animals, aka traits that enhance survivability. Yes, humans share these too, but we also have abstract elements of cognition such as wisdom and innovation. Ultimately, there is no burden of proof because what I’m sharing is an opinion, much like veganism itself. It’s a question of subjective morality that most people don’t share. While the dependence upon animal products has objectively existed for millennia. I also have problems with factory farming mostly due to the prevalence of novel disease, destruction of natural habitats, etc. People have to eat and our entire infrastructure is built around meat. Barring some radical change in legislation, it’s not going to change. If one didn’t believe humans were a higher level of being than animals, why would they expect humans to experiment beyond their nature of eating meat for the sake of morality?
Get on the Goldeneye ones.
I get most of my protein from organic plant-based protein powder.
cool kids, you planted a seed for sure
If your parents served dog roast for dinner I suspect you wouldn't eat it and make a sandwich instead. Once you've made that connection have a conversation with your parents. Explain that your decision is coming from your heart and that you wish to separate yourself from the cruelty done to animals. They just might be very supportive and accommodate you. But also expect to get some push back from friends and family (just like the kids in this video did at first), they will probably be quick to question you because they too have been conditioned by the system. Do your own research with an open mind and follow your heart.
Open minded kids, so proud of them, good work!
A lot of kids probably do, but that won't stop them from eating meat. Humans are natural omnivores and it may be unhealthy to only eat salads and fruits. It's the most important for kids to eat meat too, their the youngest! I literally cannot even imagine just eating mangos and pineapples all day. Meat is important for you!
Good conversation. I really hope they give it a try. They seemed nice and I think most vegans once thought they could never give up animal products. It’s so easy once you know the truth. You just stop.
Great work. Thank you. Be vegan everyone 💚💚💚💚💚💚
I like the way David approaches people.
I don't wanna compare people but I've seen the "Militant Vegan " woman & she's quite intense.
I dunno... I guess u need some fiery activists, some calm ones & some Inbetweeners.
I was always mad back in the day when all the activism was directed at animal testing.
It's all cool but my ears would hurt badly if I worked with the militant vagan woman 'god bless' her ..
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4:42 the bunker is Earth's atmosphere, and the natural disaster is climate change lol.
I was not getting enough protein, because of the plant-based diet.
I know this because, i did not even know what i was eating. I did not know what i was eating, but... yea... so it was not the plant-based diet then.
These people checkmate themselves within 2 seconds.
They're kids 😂
What is happening bro? You are loosing muscle mass. Are you listening to Cosmic Septic?🤪
The protein myth !
So all we need is an apocalypse to create that vegan world 😂
I want to be an ethical raw vegan. Shuffle between juice fast, fruitarianism and raw veganism. Quite literally the absolute god level quality of our short life experience will be super-achieved by strictly following the above 3 and never touching meat or animal products ever.
I couldn't and probably wouldn't do any of those diets. I eat some food raw (fruits, nuts, tomatos, lettuce etc.) but cruciferous vegetables (leafy greens), lentils, some seeds like quinoa, potatoes, onions, beets, rice have all to be cooked to remove toxins and to make the nutrients more bioavailable. At the same time all those vegetables are essential to get a broad range of nutrients on a plant based diet.
Some honest questions as I haven't done both of the diets (I'm whole food plant based mixed with "junk" food):
1. How does a raw plant based diet work without all those vegetables I listed which are a staple in a balanced plant based diet? Are you eating raw tofu on a raw diet?
2. Where do you get your protein from on a fruitarian diet?
EDIT:
3. Where do you get minerals and fat from on a fruitarian diet?
You are absolutely brainwashed and uneducated. Please record your journey so I can watch you deteriorate 😂
@@fiberologist I left a response and came back to check but looks like it has been removed by youtube bots. Maybe it has to do with the link. I was just saying I am not yet a raw vegan but willing to be one and surely will in the future. I'm not fully educated on it yet but I got my inspiration from someone called 'Gillian Berry'. Specifically look up her interview with 'Shane Sterling'. If I look half as good as he does when I'm his age... I'd be double happy. That's what gave me inspiration and convinced me raw veganism is the best thing you could do for your body while unknowingly also benefit the environment and animals in particular.
Pet chickens with male names? 3 COCKERILS would fight.
I'm leaving this comment to tell the kids to go vegan. It's morally right.
04:55 You should have told them that you've never eaten meat in your life. They're just assuming that you grew up eating loads of meat and dairy and didn't switch until adulthood yet you're telling them to do what they think you didn't.
Going to go eat some nice veal cutlets just because this popped up in my feed. Thanks for reminding me of how delicious meat tastes 😂
Wow, that's such a triggered response you had. How come those who are against the abuse and exploitation of someone makes you want to double down and cause more harm? And then to declare it with your full chest as if it's not weird, yikes.
meat tastes good
Why should they? Let kids be kids
"Let kids be kids" Good to see someone sticking up for the goats. No one wants to see "surplus" dairy kids slaughtered so that we can take their milk.
They are only sixteen, they have mostly to this point eaten what their parents or guardians forced them to.
If you were to take it to the environmental aspect, young people should really be taught about the damage animal agriculture does.
I agree they shouldn't be given a hard time. But they're old enough to start making their own decisions and to know the consequences of their choice of diet.
Take that metallica shirt off
Thank you David
We need more vegan skaters!!