I think I forgot to explain what is pronation/supination means and why is important to have a resistance in this movements! Pronation-supination, the rotation of the forearm around its longitudinal axis, is an important motion because it allows the hand to be oriented, allowing one to take food and carry it to the mouth, perform personal hygiene, and live autonomously.
Maybe reach out to a professional rock climber? Because there might be gear better suited to safely performing your idea while having a quicker time to complete that leg of the course that you are thinking of implementing.
Indeed, too long, but also too dangerous, if we take the point of view of a producer or of a gym manager: the screw itself is pointy, you can't risk someone stabbing themselves in the eye or in the hand, nor could you risk a disease due to rust+pointy. May I suggest: a socket and a plain bolt, for metal, not for wood. If you like the idea that you have to use rotation AND push, then indeed... you're screwed. :D
Anton must've misheard when they asked for a ninja obstacle and thought they were asking for some kind of a medieval torture device HAHA. Interesting videos as always Anton!
Anton has finally reached that level of expertise when one starts to move into the mad science territory. Next step is an entirely new show comprised of his bold ideas
Maybe one option you could try to look into is instead of moving/creating each hold as you go across, perhaps you could start with each hold covered by some mechanism, and the contestants have to remove each cover before being able to progress. This way you could even customize each step a bit with a unique challenge to get rid of the cover, instead of the same sequence over and over (maybe increasing the entertainment aspect). For example, first hold maybe you have to rotate something out of the way, second hold maybe you need to unhook something, third hold maybe you need to aim and hit something, and so on. But I really like the idea of being 'stuck' hanging on the obstacle until you're able to accomplish a task to move onto the next hold.
Such a cool idea ^^ I love the idea to force a move like the figure 4, but as others have pointed out, it would need to be faster and safer. Having some kind of key to insert in a hole that has to be turned seems maybe doable.
If the resistance was above the key and there was a hook below that would work really well. Would probably be more fun to have them twist something and have the next hold be revealed.
WOW you were definitely 100% correct on basically everything. By itself this seems like a very difficult and very fun challenge, I could also see this being good for training to climb ceilings, in rock climbing. But I wouldn't see it working well in a course, as it takes too long and is way too difficult. Super cool idea and video!
@@AntonFomenko Love your content man keep up the awesome work and if you ever want to do some outdoor rock climbing in colorado let me know i know of some amazing locations!
Yeah fantastic for a strength test but it would be boring for a TV show. Everything on those are usually pretty quick dynamic movements. Greats stuff though, that is very impressive
Suggestion: drill a hole from the side of the beam so that you can put a nut inside the wood. This way instead of screwing on wood, you can screw to the nut, having way less risk of ripping the screw out with weight, and probably could use shorter screws with less rotation needed (i.e. faster). Metal on metal can probably hold much easier and be more secure. Also if it was meant as part of something, maybe just 2 screw-in holds instead of 4 to make it even faster or having 2 then some regular holds to catch your breath and 2 more.
@@AntonFomenko What about using nyloc nuts? They'd provide resistance and be cheap to replace when worn out. You could even add multiple for increased resistance.
@@R1NR4N I agree with that. And probably going with a larger diameter because trying to force a nylok on with your fingers on a small diameter is really fricken hard. Maybe make the size 1-1/2" - 2" WAF, jam nylock nut. Thinner nut means they can't rely on 2 threads to hold them up before they dig into the nylon resistance. Force them to screw it on and use the actual nut itself as the hold. Would speed the section up and would also eliminate the tighter/looser easier/harder for the next person dillema.
I can see why they don't like this idea haha! Climbing with a big spike in your hands and falling doesn't sound great. Maybe some thing with a key that is a T bar and lock type design so you can use some thing not sharpe to insert ?
You also unscrewed the one eye hook half a rotation when you spun yourself around. If you combined that last anchor with that motion, you would have dropped. The pump was clear in your forearms on the second grip, so much respect for toughing it out!
Damn, that looked so hard! It was actually fascinating to watch cause I was rooting for you not to peel out and fall lol. The challenge reminded me of assembling my Ikea furniture.
Another way you could do this is if you use a metal beam with a slit for a key. On top of the beam you would have a cylindrical hole with a sloped spiral at the bottom. This way you would insert the key, and then when you turn it, it will rise on the spiral. The spiral could be 180 degrees then have a drop to catch the key in so it doesn't slide back down. To Increase difficulty you can put a weight in the hole so the key would have to push up the weight as it travels the spiral. From the user's perspective, it would be: insert the key until it hits an obstruction ( the weight), turn the key clockwise (and the key will rise as it follows the slope) until the key drops into the slot. Then when you need the key for the next hold you would lift and turn and it will follow the slope out. If you want to have the full expanse you can have the slope mirrored such that when the key reached the peak of the slope it falls down the mirrored slope and lands practically back at the beginning with a wall separating them. In this fashion the initial turning of the key would be the same except instead of falling into a slot it will fall down the mirrored slope. Then to get the key back you must first turn it in the opposite direction. You can switch out the weight with a wooden dowel with a rubber band holding it down so that the resistance will increase as the key rises. Edit for clarity: the slope would take up part of the hole, the rest is the hold the weight or dowel. The head of the key (the part that rides up the slope) would be as tall as the hight between the bottem and top of the slope. The weight rests on the top of the slope.
Instead of a screw, perhaps make it like a skeleton key where you push it in and turn it to lock it into place. Think like a slide lock for a gate or something similar. It wouldn't be quite so taxing.
Нет, Антон, это не было скучно смотреть. Я буквально ловила себя на том, что задерживаю дыхание и напрягаю мышцы😂 я думаю от этого испытания отказались, ибо оно - как финальный босс божественного уровня💪🏼
What if, going a bit more fancy, you have a more technical mechanism. E.g. the holds are already there, but you have to turn something like a key or a knob to unlock it/make the hold appear. The resistance can be adjusted to make it harder or easier to turn like that rolling beam you have to run across. When you're done, just push the hold back in and next person go.
I feel what would make this challenge viable as far as time constraint and making it reusable would be having pre made grooved sockets bolted into the wood the only took like 4-5 twists to screw the hook into.
If you had a larger diameter coarser thread eye bolt going into an insert in the wood it would be fewer turns and more sturdy i think this could be really cool!!
Woah, that a really creative obstacle Anton! I think it would be much more attaiable for competition if you swapped the screw and hold for a single element, like a classic corkscrew with a reenforced handle as a grip. That would make the obstacle less impossible for people other than masochists like yourself haha. Keep up the awesome work!
Love the Idea!!! It's great to see a wide variety of expertise in skills (aka like a ice climber figure-4 to actually complete it). Instead of wood, just have pilot hole metal grooves. You're always a blast to watch!!
What you really need to make it work is fit the screwloops into a bearing (so free spinning) screwthread, to make it work quicker and also prevent the obstacle from breaking (drilled out holes tend to lose their thread after a couple of in and out screwing). This way you actually have to use strength (push it upwards into the hole to prevent the bearing from spinning) to screw the holds in and can train pronation/supination in a way more isolated way. I think this is an elite obstacle, but definetly a challenge for pros.
You'd need to use the kind of bolt fittings used on a climbing wall to help make the holes safer and more uniform between those trying out the challenge.
I’ve been thinking about getting into powerlifting, but I change my mind, this is way more impressive, plus I’ve been climbing and doing pull ups forever so I’m up for it
Maybe not good for tv or a course, but damn that was so impressive to watch. I love how you approached with a different idea and solved it. Awesome to see these ideas you come up with! Whether you or others think they are shit or not hahaha. Much love!
this design is very nice for the hardest challenge and you rated it 8stars in difficulty but like u said, the next person to run might ware it down and keeping a fair consistent run with no setbacks are the designs they prob want, wat i would try is a flat 2cm 90 degree hook that faces away from the start point and five hooks in total and the person would either pull/swing to not worry about slipping off or slowly travel between the hooks. for means of travel across would be similar to the set up u got but it will be a rope and ball\cone(its prob a stupid idea but i feel like its still keeps the challenging part while keeping the time and design intact)
When moving from prototype to final obstacle, to make it safer and a little easier, you could replace the eye screws with set cranks that extend the hand holds from the support structure. This would give you consistent resistance per competitor and if you make the cranks variable tension, allows for different levels of competition while also getting rid of the possibility of getting a finger caught. Just need to make the crank handle short enough so it couldn't be used to support weight.
Anton, this is bad ass and fun. But it looks like something some bros would do in a garage or something. I just can't see the big flashy national stage event having people twist little screws into wood with their fingers. Maybe some sort of big flash metal screw that has to register a lock somehow. Like big threads but metal into metal. Like that crazy axe looking thing. This looks way more backyard. Also, wasn't clear on what pronation was. Sounds like you've been hanging around Devon. Maybe explain what that is. Super cool. Can't wait to see how far you get on your own challenge in this vid.
Suggestion: use the trad protection gear like cams instead of the eye screw may ease the obstacle a bit and safer. Anyway very creative to integrate figure 4 body position in your move😊
I thought it was great, and with a bit of tweaking, could be ready for prime time. Maybe make handled, and larger lag screws that would be easier on the skin, but harder to turn, maybe work on the spacing so a person might choose to skip some holes, but at the cost of having to screw them in more securely. Would be more exciting when it's a race, too. Although, I was still cheering for you to complete it solo - was worried about that last screw.
I had an idea, that you have grips, and you need to carry a drill gun on a belt holster. And while holding one grip in the air, you have to drill holes for the next spot, then screw in the next hold, grab that, and repeat the process 5 times to the end. For some reason they rejected it and banned me from submitting any more ideas. 💩
I think if you could find a way to have the hand holds be 2 solid puzzle piece like steel objects, and have a cut out that, when properly inserted, will hold body weight without question. Would make it much faster, as can make the key rather simple, but still takes time to figure out how to properly insert, and under load will still be the challenge you are looking for.
I like it, but as you pointed out the wood is not ideal. Many great suggestions already posted, but I would make the eye bolt, and the board, out of a hard polymer that is strong and fairly easy to screw. However you could make it so tightening the screw is also compressing a spring such that the resistance increases, and add a rule you must insert the eye bolt all the way. In this manner it would be the same for every run. You could even have an adjustment for the spring tension to control difficulty. Interesting video!
I think this is a really cool obstacle, even though it seems super difficult. The fact that you need to go into the 4 position instead of just powering through it with raw strength is really cool in my opinion. A good way to reduce the difficulty of it would be to create custom T shaped anchors that ca just fit inside the beam and rotated 90 degrees to lock themselves in (Kind of like a key.) That way, instead of hanging in the air for 30 seconds while you painfully screw in the anchor, it will be just a matter of stabilizing yourself enough to be able to fit the anchor in, twisting it 90 degrees and moving on to the next one. A ball on the end of a rod could also work (with a forward slide to lock it)
Just some ideas/suggestions for different versions for different situations For speed challenge having the exact amount of holds for crossing so there is no need to unscrew will make it more about doing it right and quickly For endurance challenge having 2 holds you can move then having to navigate a series of platforms makes it more about pacing and planning
Super great video! Using metal for the beam and wide tolerance bolts could potentially solve both problems. The beam wouldn't wear out throughout a comp, and the wider tolerance would make screwing in faster to speed up the obstacle.
I say that's a cool idea, but I do suggest that you make it safer by just having the eyelets screwed and pre hung but the user has to unlock and use the triple lock carabiners for the length of the section.
I guess the algorithm said I should watch you because of some old video with Jujimufu. Glad I watched most of this video because initially I knew you were not going to be able to do it but I LOVE the solution you came up with. It's boring to watch. hahahahaha
10:45 use a metal bar with a normal bolt with a circle soldered into it instead of this self screwing hook and the wood wear problem would disappear and it would make it easier to screw the bolt in
I like the idea, perhaps it can be done safely and consistently but since it takes so long you'd need to decrease it to maybe 2 of these. It could be at the end of a climbing segment that's already endurance based. If reach is an issue you could make it a decline so the next hole isn't too high up. Also I'd strategically add many holes so the athlete can choose the best one. What I think is missing from ninja is full body strength. The wall lift is a great example although I think they're always too light. Also what about a see-saw obstacle where you load heavy things (like a strongman loading event) on one side to force the other one high and you run up and jump off to reach the next platform. Light guys would need less weight but have the disadvantage of being weaker.
you should look at " 1/2″ Removable Anchor - CLIMBTECH " you could use that instead of screws you still have to put it into the holes and remove it but its quick action , you just pull the plunger to realise the bolt and move it to the next hole and they have a few diffrent sizes for the holes
I was going to say if there are threaded anchors and use bolts instead of the eye hook screws it would be safer/easier. I have not watched the whole video yet to see if he gets there. Your idea is even better.
@@AntonFomenko what about a screw on door knob can bolt the shafts into the wood then you have to screw the round door handle on and off to move along the plank lot safer falling with a round door handle than a spiked loop lol
This is a good starting idea. Instead of a screw on the end of the eyelet if you had a T bar and then had a matching slot in the wood it could work. It's hard without drawing it but the idea is you would put the bar in the slot and turn it 90° to lock it in. This would force the same movement but make it a little quicker and easier.(Also easier to build). Hope this makes sense.
@@AntonFomenko I think to fatigue pronation would take a long time? From what I understand ninja warrior courses have to be quick though so that makes it difficult. If you have a run of many of these it could be quite difficult i imagine, at least that was my thought. Also if you attach the ball to the latching mechanism with a loose strap it prevents people from engaging the lock while holding the ball.
I'd say its a cool idea, for safety I would just upgrade from a wood beam and just drilled holes to Indutrial eyebolts and either Tapped inserts for the wood or straight up tapped holes in the beam. There are (for a extra challange) ones with rotating rings so you have to grip fairly close to the threaded end to screw the bolts in.
I think it becomes more viable if you move away from standard hooks & holes in a wooden beam and towards a specialised type of screw. Instead of hanging in one place and turning the same hook a dozen times for a whole minute I would suggest something where the athlete has to turn only like 3 times (of course the setup needs to be designed such that few turns can safely carry the weight) but ten perform this for a longer stretch, switch sides more often, be more agile, have more movement happen. Maybe have a setup where hooks are already inside of the beam but sticking out too much. They then need to be screwed in until a colored segment vanishes inside of the beam only then can the grip be attached to the screw.
Man, this is so cool! It takes a lot of time but honestly, if I see someone hanging on one hand and screwing some stuff on a beam for 5 min., like his life depends on that, I would die laughing and at the same time will be so impressed. Ninja Worrior MUST accept this as an course obstacle! Good job!
Check out square threads and using all metal (might need to use some material to create friction to make this twisting strenuous rather than “just” technical)
To mitigate the risk of puncture injuries if someone falls with such items, and for the longevity of your obstacle through multiple participants. Perhaps having someone drill and tap threaded holes into a metal structure... Allowing you to use bolts without points. I think it is a great prototype and proof of concept.
If you could create this without a Sharp point on the hook screw which makes it Dangerous if you fall on it. But if you can make the obstacle with a pre-drilled Threaded Hole and have the wooden or maybe even 3D-printed Threaded Pegs with Hoops for Ball connection that thread right into the pre-drilled/threaded Holes with a loop on the bottom to hook the balls too, then I bet they would allow that since it would be safer.
An alternative obstacle for this movement could be a slot in the ceiling with a circular channel inside. You have to place a T handle up into it and rotate it so its tight enough to hold your weight . So then you have to do supination and pronation effort, and its precise, but it can be quick and repeatable. There may be some hardware already like this that you could try it with. A bit like a manhole cover key, but larger, though a manhole key might be a good place to start! It could be key shaped and be called the keys to destiny or something. Potentially then you have different coloured keys for different slots and it becomes a mental game as well as physical as you have to decide which slots to place them into for speed and endurance. Imagine giant keys with awkward handles and the locks are really stiff.
I think steel tubing with nuts welded on to it instead of wood, would be ideal. No chance of the eye bolt slipping out like in the wood but still utilizing that pronation. Love the idea!
With screwing into wood there is no consistent resistance and second person doing the challenge essentially has the advantage. Other pointed out that using a bold and a nut could be better, but then there is no resistance. The resistance can be added by adding some weight on the bold. Imagine two wood pieces one on top another and the nut is inside the bottom piece, then the top piece will provide the resistance for for the bolt. And the challenge could be to screw the bold in and create a gap between two pieces so you can fit your fingers in between and then move forward using the gap.
I would have rated that a little higher due to the detail control you need to get the hook into the screw hole. You have to slow down and totally control you swing to get it started. Its a cool individual challenge but I can see why its to detail for the show. Enjoyed the video because I really wanted to see how you were going to beat your own challlenge!
Hi Anton - how about using climbing cams? they would need to be precise to place it, with the pinching move, feel if it's secure before hanging off it, and can't just remove it by pulling, but have to do the pinching move again.
Very nice idea! I would only change the screwing thing with something different. Screws are sharp and people may get hurt. Imagine they don't catch it well and get nailed! Instead of screwing, there could be something that you would rotate (maybe a part of an awning hand crank), and while you are rotating it, a wood ball would descend, so you would catch it and continue to the next one.
It's a great idea. Machine screw would be more Reliable in such a test successful in this case it's a great concept and it is like a you definitely do not want to have to go back that way option.
I think a version of this move would be really cool. Maybe something with less threading so it doesn't require as many turns. Either way you inspire me to train creatively and study Russian.
If you were dead set on screws you could preset where people can screw into, by using threaded inserts and blunt bolts that thread into the inserts as opposed to the pointy ones.
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I think I forgot to explain what is pronation/supination means and why is important to have a resistance in this movements!
Pronation-supination, the rotation of the forearm around its longitudinal axis, is an important motion because it allows the hand to be oriented, allowing one to take food and carry it to the mouth, perform personal hygiene, and live autonomously.
Supinate = palm up, pronate = palm down, if standing in a normal bicep curl position.
Maybe reach out to a professional rock climber? Because there might be gear better suited to safely performing your idea while having a quicker time to complete that leg of the course that you are thinking of implementing.
Handyman special.
Indeed, too long, but also too dangerous, if we take the point of view of a producer or of a gym manager: the screw itself is pointy, you can't risk someone stabbing themselves in the eye or in the hand, nor could you risk a disease due to rust+pointy.
May I suggest: a socket and a plain bolt, for metal, not for wood.
If you like the idea that you have to use rotation AND push, then indeed... you're screwed. :D
Anton your idea can work but you need to make it different
Anton must've misheard when they asked for a ninja obstacle and thought they were asking for some kind of a medieval torture device HAHA. Interesting videos as always Anton!
1:17 „so I‘m not taking it personally …yet“ 😂 love your channel, binge watching all you videos! Gold!
Yay! Thank you!💪😎
Anton has finally reached that level of expertise when one starts to move into the mad science territory. Next step is an entirely new show comprised of his bold ideas
Maybe one option you could try to look into is instead of moving/creating each hold as you go across, perhaps you could start with each hold covered by some mechanism, and the contestants have to remove each cover before being able to progress. This way you could even customize each step a bit with a unique challenge to get rid of the cover, instead of the same sequence over and over (maybe increasing the entertainment aspect).
For example, first hold maybe you have to rotate something out of the way, second hold maybe you need to unhook something, third hold maybe you need to aim and hit something, and so on. But I really like the idea of being 'stuck' hanging on the obstacle until you're able to accomplish a task to move onto the next hold.
Such a cool idea ^^
I love the idea to force a move like the figure 4, but as others have pointed out, it would need to be faster and safer. Having some kind of key to insert in a hole that has to be turned seems maybe doable.
If the resistance was above the key and there was a hook below that would work really well. Would probably be more fun to have them twist something and have the next hold be revealed.
@@edwardmitchell6581 oh that's cool
I just posted something similar. Great minds think alike I suppose.
WOW you were definitely 100% correct on basically everything. By itself this seems like a very difficult and very fun challenge, I could also see this being good for training to climb ceilings, in rock climbing. But I wouldn't see it working well in a course, as it takes too long and is way too difficult. Super cool idea and video!
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@@AntonFomenko Love your content man keep up the awesome work and if you ever want to do some outdoor rock climbing in colorado let me know i know of some amazing locations!
Yeah fantastic for a strength test but it would be boring for a TV show. Everything on those are usually pretty quick dynamic movements.
Greats stuff though, that is very impressive
Suggestion: drill a hole from the side of the beam so that you can put a nut inside the wood. This way instead of screwing on wood, you can screw to the nut, having way less risk of ripping the screw out with weight, and probably could use shorter screws with less rotation needed (i.e. faster). Metal on metal can probably hold much easier and be more secure. Also if it was meant as part of something, maybe just 2 screw-in holds instead of 4 to make it even faster or having 2 then some regular holds to catch your breath and 2 more.
Bolts would also make it safer! No pointy part
Good idea but there is no pronation resistance anymore. Idea is to force resistance in pronation/supination movements. 💪
@@AntonFomenko What about using nyloc nuts? They'd provide resistance and be cheap to replace when worn out. You could even add multiple for increased resistance.
Having to feed the screw into an actual thread creates a whole new level of difficulty as you need to be very controlled to get it in straight
@@R1NR4N I agree with that. And probably going with a larger diameter because trying to force a nylok on with your fingers on a small diameter is really fricken hard. Maybe make the size 1-1/2" - 2" WAF, jam nylock nut. Thinner nut means they can't rely on 2 threads to hold them up before they dig into the nylon resistance. Force them to screw it on and use the actual nut itself as the hold. Would speed the section up and would also eliminate the tighter/looser easier/harder for the next person dillema.
It's shit like this why I love you Anton 🤣 pure manic genius.
Just insane, well done dude.
This looked insane! And you did it with an injured shoulder/arm. Mad respect! Maybe even Magnus would struggle with a long enough board xD
Getting better little by little! Thank you!💪🔥
Anton didn’t invent Ninja Warrior obstacle, he invented V9 Construction Worker Fitness Test
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Bro this is CRAAAZYYY 😂 I love it, never seen you be so dead after doing a move
I can see why they don't like this idea haha! Climbing with a big spike in your hands and falling doesn't sound great.
Maybe some thing with a key that is a T bar and lock type design so you can use some thing not sharpe to insert ?
Good point!😅
Anton: "Pronation."
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Not boring to watch. I cannot believe you did that, it’s absolutely incredible.
I like the recent videos where you make obstacles, it’s a good change of pace
It's so hard not to call you names sometimes. Things like madman, maniac, beast...
"I'm not taking it personaly... yet" :"D
the suspense was awesome, every second
Impressive as always Anton!! keep doing what you're doing!!
Anton, you are insane!! I've seen you complete it and yet I still think it's impossible!
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"If you fail, you will have 100% confirmation that you're idea was shit" - that tickled me so much!
Thank you for watching till the end💪😅
You also unscrewed the one eye hook half a rotation when you spun yourself around. If you combined that last anchor with that motion, you would have dropped. The pump was clear in your forearms on the second grip, so much respect for toughing it out!
Looks intense ;) and ps. how about some trampoline/tricking content? I enjoyed those videos in gymnastics gyms a lot
Flips are awesome 🤩
Damn, that looked so hard!
It was actually fascinating to watch cause I was rooting for you not to peel out and fall lol.
The challenge reminded me of assembling my Ikea furniture.
That was super fun to watch, when you threw In the ice climbing tech I was like yessssss that’s it Anton yeeees awesome content thank you
Glad you enjoyed!💪😎
Another way you could do this is if you use a metal beam with a slit for a key. On top of the beam you would have a cylindrical hole with a sloped spiral at the bottom. This way you would insert the key, and then when you turn it, it will rise on the spiral. The spiral could be 180 degrees then have a drop to catch the key in so it doesn't slide back down. To Increase difficulty you can put a weight in the hole so the key would have to push up the weight as it travels the spiral. From the user's perspective, it would be: insert the key until it hits an obstruction ( the weight), turn the key clockwise (and the key will rise as it follows the slope) until the key drops into the slot. Then when you need the key for the next hold you would lift and turn and it will follow the slope out.
If you want to have the full expanse you can have the slope mirrored such that when the key reached the peak of the slope it falls down the mirrored slope and lands practically back at the beginning with a wall separating them. In this fashion the initial turning of the key would be the same except instead of falling into a slot it will fall down the mirrored slope. Then to get the key back you must first turn it in the opposite direction.
You can switch out the weight with a wooden dowel with a rubber band holding it down so that the resistance will increase as the key rises.
Edit for clarity: the slope would take up part of the hole, the rest is the hold the weight or dowel. The head of the key (the part that rides up the slope) would be as tall as the hight between the bottem and top of the slope. The weight rests on the top of the slope.
Anton that obstacle is and was truly next level hard. Wow.
😂. Always entertaining and funny, Anton .
Instead of a screw, perhaps make it like a skeleton key where you push it in and turn it to lock it into place. Think like a slide lock for a gate or something similar. It wouldn't be quite so taxing.
Нет, Антон, это не было скучно смотреть. Я буквально ловила себя на том, что задерживаю дыхание и напрягаю мышцы😂 я думаю от этого испытания отказались, ибо оно - как финальный босс божественного уровня💪🏼
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What if, going a bit more fancy, you have a more technical mechanism. E.g. the holds are already there, but you have to turn something like a key or a knob to unlock it/make the hold appear. The resistance can be adjusted to make it harder or easier to turn like that rolling beam you have to run across. When you're done, just push the hold back in and next person go.
Yep! Very fancy tho!💪😎
"if u fail you'll have 100% confirmation that ur idea was shit" well thats reassuring 😂
Nicely done Anton you rock! This will be a good one for magnus to try XD
Bro i was watching it and was like come on come on you got this, loved the tension especially when the music stopped
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@@AntonFomenko Love how much you improved content wise, and your personality is amazing. Keep it up 💪
I feel what would make this challenge viable as far as time constraint and making it reusable would be having pre made grooved sockets bolted into the wood the only took like 4-5 twists to screw the hook into.
u got whate it takes,tobe ninja Respect
If you had a larger diameter coarser thread eye bolt going into an insert in the wood it would be fewer turns and more sturdy i think this could be really cool!!
Woah, that a really creative obstacle Anton! I think it would be much more attaiable for competition if you swapped the screw and hold for a single element, like a classic corkscrew with a reenforced handle as a grip. That would make the obstacle less impossible for people other than masochists like yourself haha. Keep up the awesome work!
Love the Idea!!! It's great to see a wide variety of expertise in skills (aka like a ice climber figure-4 to actually complete it). Instead of wood, just have pilot hole metal grooves. You're always a blast to watch!!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you 💪
That was very fun and cool. I love how much effort he put into the video
Super insane how gassed your on hand was and you had to match each step. Toughing it out!
That pump ! , excellent
Crazy grip strength. Just screwing on those loops will kill. Let alone holding on to dear life and moving to the next one.
What you really need to make it work is fit the screwloops into a bearing (so free spinning) screwthread, to make it work quicker and also prevent the obstacle from breaking (drilled out holes tend to lose their thread after a couple of in and out screwing). This way you actually have to use strength (push it upwards into the hole to prevent the bearing from spinning) to screw the holds in and can train pronation/supination in a way more isolated way. I think this is an elite obstacle, but definetly a challenge for pros.
You'd need to use the kind of bolt fittings used on a climbing wall to help make the holes safer and more uniform between those trying out the challenge.
I’ve been thinking about getting into powerlifting, but I change my mind, this is way more impressive, plus I’ve been climbing and doing pull ups forever so I’m up for it
Maybe not good for tv or a course, but damn that was so impressive to watch. I love how you approached with a different idea and solved it. Awesome to see these ideas you come up with! Whether you or others think they are shit or not hahaha. Much love!
Thank you!💪😊
this design is very nice for the hardest challenge and you rated it 8stars in difficulty but like u said, the next person to run might ware it down and keeping a fair consistent run with no setbacks are the designs they prob want, wat i would try is a flat 2cm 90 degree hook that faces away from the start point and five hooks in total and the person would either pull/swing to not worry about slipping off or slowly travel between the hooks. for means of travel across would be similar to the set up u got but it will be a rope and ball\cone(its prob a stupid idea but i feel like its still keeps the challenging part while keeping the time and design intact)
That was absolutely insane
There has got to be a way to maintain the pronation/supination pump using proper threads, this is a super cool challenge though! Thanks for sharing.
Good job man that was amazing
When moving from prototype to final obstacle, to make it safer and a little easier, you could replace the eye screws with set cranks that extend the hand holds from the support structure. This would give you consistent resistance per competitor and if you make the cranks variable tension, allows for different levels of competition while also getting rid of the possibility of getting a finger caught. Just need to make the crank handle short enough so it couldn't be used to support weight.
Could be like the hub grip trainers for the twisting part
Anton, this is bad ass and fun. But it looks like something some bros would do in a garage or something. I just can't see the big flashy national stage event having people twist little screws into wood with their fingers. Maybe some sort of big flash metal screw that has to register a lock somehow. Like big threads but metal into metal. Like that crazy axe looking thing. This looks way more backyard. Also, wasn't clear on what pronation was. Sounds like you've been hanging around Devon. Maybe explain what that is. Super cool. Can't wait to see how far you get on your own challenge in this vid.
Suggestion: use the trad protection gear like cams instead of the eye screw may ease the obstacle a bit and safer. Anyway very creative to integrate figure 4 body position in your move😊
I thought it was great, and with a bit of tweaking, could be ready for prime time. Maybe make handled, and larger lag screws that would be easier on the skin, but harder to turn, maybe work on the spacing so a person might choose to skip some holes, but at the cost of having to screw them in more securely. Would be more exciting when it's a race, too. Although, I was still cheering for you to complete it solo - was worried about that last screw.
I had an idea, that you have grips, and you need to carry a drill gun on a belt holster. And while holding one grip in the air, you have to drill holes for the next spot, then screw in the next hold, grab that, and repeat the process 5 times to the end. For some reason they rejected it and banned me from submitting any more ideas. 💩
Lol, I had visions of this happening as well. Extreme drilling. 🤣
I think if you could find a way to have the hand holds be 2 solid puzzle piece like steel objects, and have a cut out that, when properly inserted, will hold body weight without question. Would make it much faster, as can make the key rather simple, but still takes time to figure out how to properly insert, and under load will still be the challenge you are looking for.
I like it, but as you pointed out the wood is not ideal. Many great suggestions already posted, but I would make the eye bolt, and the board, out of a hard polymer that is strong and fairly easy to screw. However you could make it so tightening the screw is also compressing a spring such that the resistance increases, and add a rule you must insert the eye bolt all the way. In this manner it would be the same for every run. You could even have an adjustment for the spring tension to control difficulty. Interesting video!
I think this is a really cool obstacle, even though it seems super difficult. The fact that you need to go into the 4 position instead of just powering through it with raw strength is really cool in my opinion.
A good way to reduce the difficulty of it would be to create custom T shaped anchors that ca just fit inside the beam and rotated 90 degrees to lock themselves in (Kind of like a key.) That way, instead of hanging in the air for 30 seconds while you painfully screw in the anchor, it will be just a matter of stabilizing yourself enough to be able to fit the anchor in, twisting it 90 degrees and moving on to the next one.
A ball on the end of a rod could also work (with a forward slide to lock it)
I don't know why, but I got excited when you showed the ninja warrior from my country. It's not even that small....
Nice! Did you compete?💪😎
Just some ideas/suggestions for different versions for different situations
For speed challenge having the exact amount of holds for crossing so there is no need to unscrew will make it more about doing it right and quickly
For endurance challenge having 2 holds you can move then having to navigate a series of platforms makes it more about pacing and planning
Super great video! Using metal for the beam and wide tolerance bolts could potentially solve both problems. The beam wouldn't wear out throughout a comp, and the wider tolerance would make screwing in faster to speed up the obstacle.
I say that's a cool idea, but I do suggest that you make it safer by just having the eyelets screwed and pre hung but the user has to unlock and use the triple lock carabiners for the length of the section.
I guess the algorithm said I should watch you because of some old video with Jujimufu. Glad I watched most of this video because initially I knew you were not going to be able to do it but I LOVE the solution you came up with. It's boring to watch. hahahahaha
Thank you for watching 💪🔥
I'd love to see you get a few people to take on this challenge.
I need volunteer 😅
10:45 use a metal bar with a normal bolt with a circle soldered into it instead of this self screwing hook and the wood wear problem would disappear and it would make it easier to screw the bolt in
I like the idea, perhaps it can be done safely and consistently but since it takes so long you'd need to decrease it to maybe 2 of these. It could be at the end of a climbing segment that's already endurance based. If reach is an issue you could make it a decline so the next hole isn't too high up. Also I'd strategically add many holes so the athlete can choose the best one.
What I think is missing from ninja is full body strength. The wall lift is a great example although I think they're always too light. Also what about a see-saw obstacle where you load heavy things (like a strongman loading event) on one side to force the other one high and you run up and jump off to reach the next platform. Light guys would need less weight but have the disadvantage of being weaker.
The weights on the see saw would need to be locked in so they don't go flying everywhere. Cool idea!
Thats a good one 🤔
Hi Anton, you can use futorkas to prepare holes in wood for screwing
you should look at " 1/2″ Removable Anchor - CLIMBTECH " you could use that instead of screws you still have to put it into the holes and remove it but its quick action , you just pull the plunger to realise the bolt and move it to the next hole and they have a few diffrent sizes for the holes
I was going to say if there are threaded anchors and use bolts instead of the eye hook screws it would be safer/easier. I have not watched the whole video yet to see if he gets there.
Your idea is even better.
Yeah… my plan was actually trying to apply force to be able to scree the anchor. Harder = better 😂
@@AntonFomenko better is relative I guess. Your way is the better challenge for difficulty, Alix's idea is possibly better for an actual ninja course.
@@AntonFomenko what about a screw on door knob can bolt the shafts into the wood then you have to screw the round door handle on and off to move along the plank lot safer falling with a round door handle than a spiked loop lol
This is a good starting idea. Instead of a screw on the end of the eyelet if you had a T bar and then had a matching slot in the wood it could work. It's hard without drawing it but the idea is you would put the bar in the slot and turn it 90° to lock it in. This would force the same movement but make it a little quicker and easier.(Also easier to build). Hope this makes sense.
How does it fatigue your pronation?
@@AntonFomenko I think to fatigue pronation would take a long time? From what I understand ninja warrior courses have to be quick though so that makes it difficult.
If you have a run of many of these it could be quite difficult i imagine, at least that was my thought.
Also if you attach the ball to the latching mechanism with a loose strap it prevents people from engaging the lock while holding the ball.
I'd say its a cool idea, for safety I would just upgrade from a wood beam and just drilled holes to Indutrial eyebolts and either Tapped inserts for the wood or straight up tapped holes in the beam. There are (for a extra challange) ones with rotating rings so you have to grip fairly close to the threaded end to screw the bolts in.
"I'm not taking it personally, Yet."
Yet!
This obstacle could really... screw someone over
more crazy challenges :D
I think it becomes more viable if you move away from standard hooks & holes in a wooden beam and towards a specialised type of screw. Instead of hanging in one place and turning the same hook a dozen times for a whole minute I would suggest something where the athlete has to turn only like 3 times (of course the setup needs to be designed such that few turns can safely carry the weight) but ten perform this for a longer stretch, switch sides more often, be more agile, have more movement happen.
Maybe have a setup where hooks are already inside of the beam but sticking out too much. They then need to be screwed in until a colored segment vanishes inside of the beam only then can the grip be attached to the screw.
Man, this is so cool! It takes a lot of time but honestly, if I see someone hanging on one hand and screwing some stuff on a beam for 5 min., like his life depends on that, I would die laughing and at the same time will be so impressed. Ninja Worrior MUST accept this as an course obstacle!
Good job!
Thank you!✊😎
this guys biceps looked sick after that
Holy shit, that battle axe move @0:40 was awesome 😂
Yep 🪓
Check out square threads and using all metal (might need to use some material to create friction to make this twisting strenuous rather than “just” technical)
Wow Anton! You were training at 3am? And you probably worked a full day before this, that’s dedication that should be admired.
Thank you! One day we will make it happen💪🔥
@@AntonFomenko yes we will! Been watching for years man, never miss a video, keep grinding 🍻
To mitigate the risk of puncture injuries if someone falls with such items, and for the longevity of your obstacle through multiple participants. Perhaps having someone drill and tap threaded holes into a metal structure... Allowing you to use bolts without points. I think it is a great prototype and proof of concept.
That looked miserably hard. I'm surprised you completed it! Although I probably shouldn't be by now, you're always doing the impossible lol
If you could create this without a Sharp point on the hook screw which makes it Dangerous if you fall on it. But if you can make the obstacle with a pre-drilled Threaded Hole and have the wooden or maybe even 3D-printed Threaded Pegs with Hoops for Ball connection that thread right into the pre-drilled/threaded Holes with a loop on the bottom to hook the balls too, then I bet they would allow that since it would be safer.
An alternative obstacle for this movement could be a slot in the ceiling with a circular channel inside. You have to place a T handle up into it and rotate it so its tight enough to hold your weight . So then you have to do supination and pronation effort, and its precise, but it can be quick and repeatable. There may be some hardware already like this that you could try it with. A bit like a manhole cover key, but larger, though a manhole key might be a good place to start!
It could be key shaped and be called the keys to destiny or something. Potentially then you have different coloured keys for different slots and it becomes a mental game as well as physical as you have to decide which slots to place them into for speed and endurance. Imagine giant keys with awkward handles and the locks are really stiff.
To eliminate the expansion of the whole or risk of the eye falling out if it was made of a piece of square pipe with threads it would work better
I think steel tubing with nuts welded on to it instead of wood, would be ideal. No chance of the eye bolt slipping out like in the wood but still utilizing that pronation. Love the idea!
That was insane Anton!
I predict in your next video you're going to use a bare 4x4 and bring the drill with you too. 🤣
Challenge accepted💪😂
With screwing into wood there is no consistent resistance and second person doing the challenge essentially has the advantage. Other pointed out that using a bold and a nut could be better, but then there is no resistance. The resistance can be added by adding some weight on the bold. Imagine two wood pieces one on top another and the nut is inside the bottom piece, then the top piece will provide the resistance for for the bolt. And the challenge could be to screw the bold in and create a gap between two pieces so you can fit your fingers in between and then move forward using the gap.
I would have rated that a little higher due to the detail control you need to get the hook into the screw hole. You have to slow down and totally control you swing to get it started. Its a cool individual challenge but I can see why its to detail for the show. Enjoyed the video because I really wanted to see how you were going to beat your own challlenge!
Hi Anton - how about using climbing cams? they would need to be precise to place it, with the pinching move, feel if it's secure before hanging off it, and can't just remove it by pulling, but have to do the pinching move again.
I like it💪
Very nice idea! I would only change the screwing thing with something different. Screws are sharp and people may get hurt. Imagine they don't catch it well and get nailed! Instead of screwing, there could be something that you would rotate (maybe a part of an awning hand crank), and while you are rotating it, a wood ball would descend, so you would catch it and continue to the next one.
Classic Anton not having a reference point for what mere mortals are capable of
Absolutely insane athlete wow
It's a great idea. Machine screw would be more Reliable in such a test successful in this case it's a great concept and it is like a you definitely do not want to have to go back that way option.
Cool idea and definitely super challenging, but as you said it might not have enough action in it for a TV show.
I think a version of this move would be really cool. Maybe something with less threading so it doesn't require as many turns. Either way you inspire me to train creatively and study Russian.
Спасибо!💪
If you were dead set on screws you could preset where people can screw into, by using threaded inserts and blunt bolts that thread into the inserts as opposed to the pointy ones.
“.. maybe it looks like shit. But it feels even more like shit.” 😂😂