The Worthless College Degree ......
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- A lot of people are regretting going to college and in a world where everything is backwards , it makes total sense.
Normal jobs just don't cut it anymore. People are Dropping bills left and right. There is no more middle class. Every thing has been gentrified from housing , cars People not being able to find a decent paying job and the cost to live is getting way out of hand . Gen Z and Millennials No Long Want to work towards nothing.
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Being a janitor of your own business is the most rewarding and honorable profession.
amen
I agree 💯
I dont want to pay a lot of taxes to the beast system
The f it is
I’m currently a 36 year old janitor/custodian at a hospital. I’m comfortable here and have my own area to clean and don’t have any human interactions, so it’s really not embarrassing to me. I’m living with my parents and saving a ton of money. It’s an extra bonus that I get to have a relationship with my dad as he’s battling cancer. We never had a relationship and now I can help him out and he’s helping me out. It’s a beautiful thing. Most days I feel like a loser but I’m working on a clothing brand (got an LLC and a logo trademarked) and I’m making a folk acoustic album. ❤
Keep at it. Don't give up!
I think you're doing great
Not to rain on your parade but clothing brand businesses have like a 0.1% chance of success. Probably didnt even have to get the LLC either (atleast until you make several sales). Best of luck to you but do another business that doesnt have a high rate of failure if it doesnt work out.
These are all really honorably things you’re doing, especially your clothing brand and folk album. Good luck 😊
It feels so nice not to be in debt from a house or car at 42. I bet you will feel nice about that too at my age. Careful about those hard off ladies around our age looking for a retirement plan, especially with kids.
I get paid less as a substitute teacher with a Bachelor’s degree than a high schooler working at McDonalds.
That's so wrong on many levels....
That’s effed up
Dont pay a lot of taxes to the beast system.. your good
Welcome to Murica
Whelp. Time to start flipping some burgers
I told my college business school teacher I wanted to be a talk show host and he told me "if you took the money you paid for school and put it into making a talk show you'd already be doing what you wanted to do." A valuable lesson I learned too late...now trying on RUclips
Lol. Yep - your professor was right.
That's the thing, you would just needs some classes and not a degree .
@@SharperPenImageConsulting I know - I just said that. no need to dunk on me for it. I was 19 at the time I didn't know a thing
@@thetrevorglassman I don't blame you. Who sold you on business school? And who didn't spend more time "teaching you otherwise"? And also, it's not all bad, especially since most 19 year-olds don't have the knowledge or skills to do much of anything. Most 19 year olds in fact, can't run a business, but our country loves to sell a lot of mythology, including the rock-star fantasy.
@@SharperPenImageConsulting a teacher. go figure. for the most part, the US is caught in a cycle of regurgitation from the people that run our society. free thinkers are needed now more than ever. wish i didnt realize it so late.
I have heard too many horror stories of people who have $100,000 student loan debt and the only job they can find to pay the bills is to be a waitress or waiter
That's because #1 they're not applying themselves very much to get a job in the field that they studied for. #2 they're not patient enough to wait for their turn to get a foot in the door. #3 they turn down jobs because the starting pay isn't what they thought it would be, or they don't understand they're not going to make a million dollars right out of the gate.
@@atrain132 #4 millions of others have the same degree
@@atrain132 or #4, they majored in a dumb SJW degree like Woman's studies or Critical Theory
@@filmbuff4 nope. Even those degrees can land lifelong jobs. Put that critical theory degree to use! There's always a need for women's studies, as they are the most fouled up, unexplained life form in the world.
@@atrain132or they went into tech which is in a really bad place right now. Painting with such a wide brush doesnt make you intelligent, just an asshole.
I’m a ups driver making $130k a year , free healthcare, pension , 6 weeks paid vacation. I didn’t even finish high school .
As long as you enjoy the job, that's great. No stress when you go home unlike some white collar jobs where you have to answer emails and work and worry outside of office hours. But the travel experiences I've had from my white collar jobs are irreplaceable.
i see the jobs posted it says $23 per hour, how are you making $130k per year then?
i don't believe you
Anything you believe is free is coming out of your wages.
@@darelbvcr687$23 year one $26 year 2, $30 year 3 and $45 year 4 (top scale union wage). 52 hours weekly . Time and a half after 8 hours.
I make 60k as a slot technician without a degree. I started out as a janitor and worked my way up.
In Vegas ?
60k is poor
@@colaaddict782 Depends on whether it's a HCOL or LCOL area
Both my sisters went to college and they make less money then me with a degree. Lots of good paying jobs without college!
Same insurance agent and mortgage license agent and I been at for 6 years book of clients no college actually dropped out of HS wanted a jump start into finance related feild. It's definitely possible
My college degree wasn't a waste, but I went for my degree at 27 years old and graduated at 31 - going at 18 is almost always a mistake.
That makes a lot of sense. 18 you still kind of figuring things out. And dont know what actually makes money except the basic few things like lawyer and doctor but may or may not want to specifically get into those fields.
@@justmika6964 To be fair it's not just about money. However, I agree that there isn't a lot of planning regarding career choice for most college students. It's a massive issue that needs to be addressed and is a driver of the student loan debt crisis.
@@khayon4364 i didn't just mean far as money though either. I added that as a second point to what i was talking about, the main point i was trying to make is at 18 you are still figuring things out. Which in that case i meant figuring out ALOT of things. What you want and what school you want to go to and romantic wise if you are in a relationship or is focusing on that kind of thing, maybe even moving out but that is a lot i did not want to get into a discussion about.
I could probably go into a whole dissertation on stuff i thought i knew and thought i didn't know and learned the hard way since being 18, and possibilities on stuff i think might have made things better or worse if i did some things differently, and others here probably got their own versions of that. But who here actually wants to read through a random strangers woe is me essay on what is wrong with life? Sorry i just realized that i was assuming that the broad term figuring things out implied certain things when it may not be the case for everyone too.
@@justmika6964 Hey man, we all could! Life is a process. We are all figuring things out all the time.
A co-worker once said to me, "Did the person who invented college, go to college?" So simple yet so insightful. This quote always stops people right in their tracks. They usually play dumb or have a legit confused meltdown. I always quote it to anyone who says my kids "MUST" go to college.
Yes, specifically if you're talking about the US. The people who set up prestigious institutions in the states went to college. That doesn't mean that college is right for everyone, and that the cost in the US isn't a total scam, but it doesn't take that long to look up some history either.
Harvard graduated from Emmanuel College, Cambridge, before founding Harvard College.
@@threethrushes You're missing the point entirely. At one point in time, the concept of "college" did not exist. Yet, people intelligent and "smart" enough came up with college without attending it because it hadn't existed yet. I know sometimes logic gets lost in texting but hopefully you understand now.
@@_sk00fy True
I was a good boy and trusted all the adults who told me to go to college. Just finished paying it off 17 years later.
It was worth it tho right
@@augushame2005he paid it off so probably.
Decades ago, I defied my mother and changed my major from vocal performance to education. I had 25 year career, and retired with a nice pension. I had vocal talent, but I was practical enough to know that I wanted a college degree that I could use to earn a living!
I left my college degree off my resume and it was a lot easier to get jobs. College makes you over qualified, no matter what it is in.
For what kind of jobs?
Same
They want us guys with certs and no University because they can start us off at a lower pay scale. But as an admin, I am capped out anyways. But you are not wrong!
Good tip
Totally not true for a wide variety of jobs.
Shout out to all the custodians, my mom's been one for over 23 years and I love her and respect her professionalism and her school appreciates her work. I hope to buy her a house one day so she doesn't have to struggle.
I am happy with my degree in Mechanical Engineering, for me it wasn't a waste of money and time
An engineering degree in computer science doesn't suck, either.
@@kimberlywhite7852
That is one the few but most are useless Gender Studies / Psychology / Marketing / Business Admin etc etc useless
My grandfather was a machinist and got a job in Los Angeles making tools at an aircraft factory. He didn't need an expensive college degree. He bought a house and had 6 kids in the 1950's.
@@bogdanoff314 no that is a useful degree
Sadly, a college degree is starting to be the new high school diploma
Yes, some employers want more and more credentials on top of your degree. Like the 4 years wasn't enough. It's a joke. The system keeps raising the neverending bar to infinite levels making you constantly have to strive and feel inadequate.
They're just unwilling to teach people. Either you have the 5+ years for the entry level job or you don't.
@@alexlopez5800 that's because training has been proven for decades to be a negative investment for businesses. Why spend 4 years paying to train someone who will jump at the first job offer that increases their salary by any substantial amount? Makes no sense from a business prospective
@@clint6716 but also makes 0 sense from society perspective if as society we rely people to survive from jobs income and jobs run the society.
We will have lot of young, old and other certain people choosing to be leeching off welfare or do criminal activity because every basic job wants several years of experience and wages carry no future or even present.
If we only cater to rich all the time whole thing will eventually just backfire on them, there are way more nothing to lose population than people with something to lose aka business owners.
@@alexandrabellerose3550 acknowledgement of the status quo doesn't make me a defender of it, learn to read the room.
@@clint6716 It's completely dependent on how badly they need the labor. Certain job markets are going to be oversaturated, and there's simply no point in training when you have such a large pool of potential candidates to select from.
@@clint6716 That's a 'service' issue, if your employers are so shit you have to job hop to find better pay and treatment, then the business is still at fault, not the employee.
Employees are playing a game that CEOs and management have created, we didn't make the rules, we just play by them.
I graduated college at 32 years old. I only went because a sales position at the company I worked at required a degree. I went to an inexpensive school and used my GI Bill to pay for it. No complaints because it worked out for me.
Yeah l'm using the GI Bill for my degree. If it wasnt for that, I would not be going to college.
A degree is like a driver's license.
You can drive a car without it. But you can't drive everywhere.
And even if you have one, it doesn't make you a good driver.
It doesn't cost 100k to get a license
Yeah, and you can't drive where there's a lot more money to be made. I would not be nearly as well off without my engineering degree and MBA.
@@hahamasala You act like the only path for people is to lay down and get a degree. The most wealthy people work for themselves and that's not you!
@@Surfclub23 a Hey Mr. 9 Subscribers! 😂 I didn't lay down for anybody. You don't even know me! I can tell that you're not very smart and you're probably less wealthy than me.
@@Surfclub23 You're so wealthy and popular, aren't you?
I did go to college, but I totally agree with you. I was never free till I started my own business.
I graduated high school in 2010 and I'll never forget when the Art Institute called me to tell me that I qualified for their school, I was excited up until they told me the cost at the end. It was going to cost around 200,000 for a 2 year degree and I basically told the dude that I couldn't afford that. He tried to shame me into debt and I finally told the guy that my RUclips channel was already getting thousands of views. So I gave up on that dream and never regretted it. Best decision of my life.
Just so everyone knows, the push for everyone to go to college that went on over the past 30 years had nothing to do with education or preparing for a career. It had everything to do with 1) bringing money into the schools to fund administrative bloat and 2) privatizing the student loan program to make another profit center for Wall Street, making companies like Sally Mae richer. I'm fortunate that I went an in-state school in the 90s and was able to put myself through college without any loans or debt. It's virtually impossible to do now.
Agreed. College now is a racket and a scam. We were tricked into thinking we would get a return on our investment, but sadly that didn't happen for most.
Went to college. Cleaned pools to get through it. Graduated with a history degree. Started a pool cleaning business. Make over six figures by a large margin. Was college completely useless? No. Am I super happy I only paid 12.5k for it? Yes.
Are you a boomer? Yes ✅
Nah I’m 37. Millennial.
@@LowerDerek 37 and paid 12.5k for college? Sure you did grandma 👵🏿
I did. Graduated in 2011.
It was more if you count the 5 years of community college I went to that the government paid for. 5 years community college then 2 years at a state university. The price has gotten stupid. It was going up when I was going and I look at the cost now and no way would it have been worth it. The government meant has fucked up college big time. Like everything else.
Degrees out here competing over who has the most PHD's,fighting over who gets to be the janitor!
Lunacy
I'm gonna try to make money on tiktok
I have a degree in business admin. I use that education to manage 2 kids. Wife has a great job, I'm a stay home dad. College was a waste.
That sounds like an awesome job lol
Tech degree... barely used it for applying, made more myself in tech.. then started growing weed by where jack is, ended up getting a 401k and benefits from Acreage Holdings.. run by John Boehner
I would say a business admin degree isn’t bad, but it’s not the best either. At least it can help get some decent office job compared to some degree like classical singing lol
So what's the deal? Did you voluntarily decide to be a stay-at-home dad, or just didn't pursue anything relative to your field of study?
@@dertythegrower they don't pay for Weed but have access to kids and benefits it's truly hillarious😂
Don’t understand why people put themselves through so much debt for a single sentence on their resume? Employers don’t even look at it. Unless you want a career in law, medicine or finance where a degree is imperative just lie.
Sadly this is the way
I personally went to college because of family and peer pressure I was stupid
Engineering
Even with a STEM degree ....this economy is not hiring or paying the correct wage for those graduates. Everyone is getting screwed over !
I've begun to omit my degree on my resume for certain roles because I feel it's hindering my ability to get considered by making me appear overqualified. I'm hoping my experiment works and lands me an honest paying job 😊
As a janitor I make close to $30 an hour have job security and a great pension when I retire. I did go to college for accounting and when I apply my college education - I know that I did well make good money no stress the key is that I live below my means. Life is good
like my father always says a trade will gurantee you a job in any part of the world too many parents forcing degrees on their offspring. everybody has a degree nowadays but theres never enough plumbers and electricians
And if more goes into trades, what will happen? Wages go down. We already see this with the flood of illegals.
Nah they’ve got uninsured migrants to do the trades now.
@@eathecommie Bring in more illegals!
60k as a custodian is crazy.
I'm a two time college dropout, started my own online business through eBay/Shopify in 2020, Now I make 6 figures from that in addition to a side gig doing some property management for my mentor as well as ecommerce consulting. Bought a house this year. My friends with degrees are working jobs they hate or getting laid off.
Cool on you dude
I dropped out of college 3 times. First time was with a 4-year scholarship at a top-ranked private university in California. Fast forward to now, I'm pulling in $160,000 and project that I will be making $200,000 in a couple years. Good luck to all in your journey.
@@moonlight01011 what do you do for a living
You should invite your friends over for pizza, on you. 😂
@@TheRealObama420there’s riches in niches I never took a course I was stuck in the food industry so I took a lower paying job in the industry I wanted to pursue, learned the ropes then I quit and did it on my own.
I was fortunate enough to have honest h.s. guidance counselor, who informed me I wasn’t ready for college and 3 paths. Military, trade school or factory worker and I chose the 1st as a way out. 40 years later I am a master electrician making 6 figures with great benefits in IBEW 58 Detroit
Forget about College and Universities all together.. trade schools is where its at... learn while working on the job. 🤓🤓💯💯💯💯💯💯
Agree
Your ambition, drive, and ability to network has always trumped a college degree.
I struggle more on the network part
@@stealcian74 that's only true if you don't want to work in any professional field. Specialized work requires an education
@@clint6716forreal nursing or rad tech is only a couple years and can make BANK with little debt after
Im a Housekeeping Supervisor at a large park. Have my own office. I happily tell people my job title. Im a year and half from paying off my car with the pay from this job.
I’m a roaming maintenance/janitor for a metropolitan park. 👨🔧 🧹 I’ve been doing this for 7 years. Being outside and having my own work truck is nice. Cleaning up after pigs and working midnight and weekends sucks though. I’m ready to quit lol
And those who can’t teach, teach physical education. Two Bachelor’s degrees and a Master’s here. Got sick of it all in my 30’s and started cleaning houses for wealthy clients. Cash only. Set my own hours. Worked alone with no stress. (Wealthy people are usually very clean and very generous.) It was one of the best periods of my life.
Why did you stop?
Same here. Earned three STEM degrees during my twenties, even briefly held a research post shortly before the 2008 crash. Then things went south: sidestepped into security, then student support work, then total unemployment, then self-employment on and off, and now I work as a cleaner in a warehouse.
0:08 that was some real Dennis Reynolds energy
In todays world College is where average people go to get tricked into thinking they are above average. A mountain of money for a molehill of opportunity.
Took me 7 yrs as an adult to get my associates, while working full-time and having my son 50% of the time.
Time-wise, it's much smarter to start after HS, but you don't know crap as a 19 yr old, so many young people go for these worthless degrees.
Engineering, computer science, software development, technical sales all make good money.
CS and anything tech has been hammered last 12 months. It's the biggest loser in this economy. So many on unemployment, once it runs out they'll be taking huge pay cuts and CS pay is gonna be getting driven down fast with all those desperate techies with no work and no unemployment
Employers understand that a college degree these days are worthless. This kind of worthless degree is abundant and those institutions who pushed them to ignorant students should be forced to "buy" them back!
I remember Junior Achievement classes started in 7th grade . It was the only teacher to explain interest rates or being an entrepreneur. America teachers know only to get degrees
If you're considering an Engineering degree, look into the Engineering Technology degrees. They are usually less math, easier physics and chemistry classes and will still get you hired for a good paying Engineering position.
@@nicklehman3984 to add to this, you will be a technician working underneath engineers if you go this route. Generally you can get engineering tech degrees in 18 months to two years of community school, but you will not obtain the PE title nor will you be paid at the same rate as engineers generally. Still a good path that is often overlooked
What enginnering is that??? All i known were the industrial engineering
Took a hit for you mate 🎉😊❤
Wish I could turn back time. I got a college degree in the 80s. Made 185k my last year of working in 2011. The degree cost me 15k total at a private college.
fucking brag about it bro.... Geeeeheeeeez... come on, man!
185k in 2011? What did you do? Medical?
@@holdfastjoe8841 Occupational Therapist. Chief of Forensics Division military officer at 27 years in and college adjunct professor.
@@TheRealObama420 rehab director for the criminally insane for DC.
@@melvano4014 how did you get into that? thats a really interesting occupation
"Obtain that grain brother, get a whole loaf!" 😂😂
At 41 years old, I am just learning now, (post retirement) that working for yourself is the only way to real freedom. Not just economic, making your own salary, picking your hours, controlling the work, who you work with, etc. The day I learned that working the vast majority of jobs was all about taking advantage of labor to make profit for the owner(s), it became so clear and sickening. I could never consider working for anyone else ever again. I understand how some people choose that path for health insurance or lack of self esteem or self confidence. If you want to work for yourself, it is so easy, that I am turning down business and not advertising after 3 weeks I wish word of mouth would slow down. lol, because after all, I am retired, it is easy to go full time, the work is there, I just don’t want it as badly anymore. Had I known this at 18, before my first bachelors degree, I would never have spent so many years “Learning”. I might start a business and manage it, if I can find the right people.
My brother makes bank. Owns a moving and cleaning company. He started out posting on facebook and Craigslist 12 years ago. Now he has contracts with the local University, and a large music festival. Anyway, don’t be afraid to go to work for yourself. With a degree, professional approach and appearance you’ll go places. Rich people don’t want anybody cleaning their houses and offices.
Im a college graduate with multiple degrees and i now work in healthcare, i make 170k/yr in kansas with a job i enjoy, great house, and all my debt was paid off mostly from my tuition reimbursement benefit from my hospital. This is what i learned….
Most degrees are worthless and not needed unless you wanna be a nurse, doctor, or other high skill jobs in a marketable field. Don’t waste your time or money on a dumb psychology or business degree.
Look at the job you want and the requirements on how to get there, if it requires a degree then get it. Also, research important thing about that job like the salary and market growth.
After dropping 100k to the lib gods, I learned networking with people who were already successful was much better than learning from those who can't.
And innocent taxpayers will be paying it off. As the schools and lenders make their full profit.
I have a math bachelors. It got me several tutoring and teaching jobs.
My cousin has the same degree and works in finance at VW and loves it and makes a ton of money she's 40 now.
That’s what I did. I repeated college a second time, and chose a major in the medical field so I could find a job.
No degree here). Sometimes you need to look outside the box. *Disclaimer I am a Disabled Veteran and that helped -- But I got a job with the US Postal Service in a Career with Full benefits starting out at 26.79$ an hr. Based on step and cola increases in 2 years I will be at 30$ an hr that is double the min wage in Florida. Do you think you need to get a Degree to get a good job? My opinion is learn a trade, look outside something you might not think to do (USPS) and yeah it may take a bit but never be satisfied with MID . Keep looking till you reach the goal (JOB) you want. I have had 3 jobs in the past 2 years until I landed this one. Now I got what I want and will ride this into retirement and you can too!
USPS is a horrible place to work at.
Supervisors treat CCAs like shit. Turn over rate is really high.
Union won't help you.
90 day probation is bullshit as it constantly changes.
In 7 years, there won't be any DPS and everything will be Amazon Packages 🎁
About 12 years ago i got an accounting degree. Failed but repeated 2 subjects and in that year i got only a pass grade. I made up for it in my following year but the damage was already done. My average was 59%. All graduate jobs say you need 65% and above to be looked at.
I tried getting book keeping, accounts recievable, accounts officer, finance officer jobs - but told i was too over qualified and that i would find these jobs boring and quit.
So the last 10 years i have been working unskilled low paying jobs.
Univetsity was a huge waste of time, effort, and money. It was also 3 or 4 years of not earning money. Going to university destroyed me
Chill
Automation is taking over CPA jobs
Do not go to college for anything other than stem. Why are you spending so much for an education for a job that does not exist?
its tragic this is the state of the world "pursue money, not passion." what a way to live.
Should tech even be included anymore? Companies care more about certifications related to the job and tech evolves so insanely fast. With that being said, I read recently computer science degrees pay well
depends what you mean by stem. Engineering 100% yes, amazing career. IT and programming is over saturated.
You should only go to university for engineering, medicine, science, some health sciences and maybe law. Univetsity is generally a scam
Finance or accounting works well, too. (But not marketing or "management").
I went for accounting
College is just a tool and if you are interested in engineering, accounting/finance, legal, medical, etc., then college is the right tool for the job. The problem is that way too many people are using the hammer (college) to install the screw.
I had a high school teacher that was big on starting a business he was a teacher for the benefits and owned a restaurant on the side… still cool with him till this day one of the few real ones.
Your dome light is on in back. Make sure you turn that off so your battery doesn't die!
His door is open.
I tried welding on my own. I starting coughing gray boogies up. Stoppled.
I have a great idea for another business, but the overhead. 😢
My degree in computer science was the best career decision I ever made. My previous degree in literature was the worst 😅
when did you get the cs degree?
Amazon , Walmart, Sales Force, Google , JP Morgan Chase, United Airlines, JetBlue and more companies...are recently fired or "let go" most of their IT employees or anyone holding a CS degree or certificate.
So NO. Computer science is not a safe degree to obtain.
"Learn to Code bro"
Truck drivers are having the last laugh.
If you don't go to college, you're more likely to stay poor!
Don't go to an expensive college and don't major in degrees that don't lead to good jobs. What you learn in business classes can help you if you have your own business. Do your hobbies on the side and turn them into a business once you have a little bit of a financial nest egg. Or if things take off with your side business then quit your day job.
I had a math teacher that taught us about starting businesses, investing, taxes, and computers. Mr. King, best math teacher ever. I ended up being self employed most of my adult life, as a psychic reader, a private school teacher, etc...but I did go to college.
we actually had programs in high school for those that were not going to college in the 90s. Even had a class where you had to make a business plan for opening a business. So it does or did exist.
"Get that grain buddy - get a whole loaf" I like the way my friend Jack worded that there sentence. Please thumbs up this if you liked it too
I too dreamed of a career in the custodial arts.......
Teaching is a different skill, some people are really good at what they do, but struggle to teach it successfully to others.
Most people only need a tech school or community college.
I went back and got my MBA years ago. I haven't done shit with that worthless degree even though I've applied to numerous job openings.
If a job offers health insurance, hold on to the job--unless the job is really toxic. Lack of health insurance is a major cause for financial distress.
I'm so glad I dropped out of college but still regret the time I wasted there. Never spent much money but still regret it. Never got in debt but still regret the time wasted.
I finished high school. Did a yr n half of college. College kicked me out for academic probation 😅. I taught myself basic IT skills. Make decent money $80k annually doing IT support at a hospital. All from what I taught myself
I speak two languages (IT and ENG) I collected a bunch of certifications (degree, PG diploma in export management, various diploma in digital marketing, SEO, copywriting) basically I keep getting rejected for SDR, BDR jobs to get my way into a more strategic role. Today I was told straight away that I wasn't a fit because the hiring manager thought I couldn't handle cold calling. Bear in mind telemarketing was my first job. They do not care about degrees, ambitions, nights spent at preparing 10 years financial analysis to be presented the day after at school. Tbh I thought business would have been more rewarding, but it's not. I'm sick and tired, need to come up with an alternative plan which doesn't involve any further corporate bs.
There's a lot of glamour around getting your degree that is really not required for 2024. Unless you're getting a STEM degree or going into a heavily regulated profession, I wouldn't suggest going into something for the sake of knowledge alone. There's never really a return on value; you need hard skills. Trade schools, the military, entrepreneurship, etc. are good options if you have some humility and don't expect instant success. Carefully weigh the tradeoffs, your body or mind may begin to wear out, but get ahead and make investments, contribute to the pension fund, plan for moving into management, and develop some admin skills along the way.
I worked as a tech previously. Many of the engineers were completely useless. They hired people with business degrees to work on technical products because they had a degree. The corporate world is a disaster.
I got a finance degree and to be honest I would’ve been better off going into the trades.
"I'm white well multigrain" LMAO
I went to law school and now I'm unemployed due to depression and burnout.
I am here for Jack.
I joined the US Army when I was 18 years-old. I got out with a pension then I went to college. I got my Associates Degree in 2003. I transferred to the University of California Santa Barbara and was majoring in history, but I quit after a few quarters because it was too expensive. My goal was to go to law school or medical school, but I figured that would have put me in at least $400,000 student loan debt. It wasn't worth the debt. I ended up working in construction and being a security contractor. Going to college right out of high school would have been a huge mistake for me because I would have given up the benefits I got from military service.
Wait a minute... That lady got a classical singing degree, and is looking for office jobs? If you went to college for a specific degree, you should be looking for a job in that field.
I've said this on this channel many times and other channels. There are plenty of companies you can go to work for that will pay 100% of your college tuition. Just make sure the degree you're getting is what you actually want to do. Also understand it takes time to get your foot in the door in that relative field. Once you do, it also takes time to start building up experience, and making more money. Most people are lazy, and don't understand how everything works, so they blame it on a system, and call it a scam.
If she played her cards right she could still do a lot in the arts and get paid, but you have to study
She got a degree in something that has no jobs 😂
@@dang75790 there's plenty of jobs for it in the relative field.
She might be looking for work to tide her over between singing engagements, if she juststarting out in her career. You have to understand the industry.
Got an AA in behavioral science because it was the easiest degree to get and I was getting/pocketing GI Bill money while going to school.
Get an extra $200 a month for having a BS college "degree".
Get an extra $600 a month for a certification i got through work.
$800 extra a month for BS my job wanted me to do.
Now you just need a degree in psychology.
The only people who are complaining about a college degree, are those that didn’t do their due diligence in RESEARCHING before spending money or taking out loans.
If they went to a four year college, lived on campus, and obtained a liberal arts degree 📜 then of course they are mad. Of course they are not able to obtain employment.
My career path I chose to invest in , provides a good life. When I apply to a job , I’m called back usually the next day or by the end of the week. When I accept job offers , I can negotiate my salary. Why? Because it’s a high demand field , and they can’t easily go out and train someone and hire them for less. When I first graduated, I made upward moves in my field in order to be well rounded and to have knowledge in all aspects to ensure I’m always hired and in demand.
Long story short, the complaints are obnoxious. I feel empathy for those who did their due diligence and simply due to economic conditions or perhaps living in a rural area , I tend to be empathetic.
Not one of my friends in healthcare, certain IT certificates, and a few other career paths ever complain about our degrees. 😟
I wish people would stop calling those 'degrees'.
If it's not stem, it's probably worthless.
If the teachers would talk about setting your own business instead of indoctrinating people to go to college they will probably loose their jobs. The system needs wage slaves. I never ever heard the phrase of creating your own business is an option. The whole thing just revolved around going to college in order to find a good job. See a “good job” that pays you. Meaning working for somebody else.
That’s meeee! Got a worthless degree 40 years ago ! At least I didn’t walk away with any school loans . Was a janitor for a few years $8.25 hr 1984 wasn’t bad plus free health benefits til I got a job with the post office for 20 years !
Now we see that high education really doesn’t pay off heck student loans paying that debt off while finding better pay work is really a no win situation I’m happy I have a high school diploma and didn’t pursue higher education I’ve saved so much money despite how hard it is to keep a good job and it’s a JOB having a career is close to GONE these days, I pray everyone finds solid work stay humble do the best you can you will find work it may not be your cup of tea but pay the necessities of life first stress less on what you don’t have that you WANT, sit back look back at yourself in the mirror, DO NOT say your a failure if your alive and living your not failing. Never feel alone because so many people are in similar situations
The thumbnail gave me a good chuckle
Wage discrimination laws and HR running the show is now why the worker CANT get what they're worth. An absurd standardized system disincentivizes companies to train, then they have to be wage competitive. All get outsourced to countries that have lower standards. Quality of things go down for long time consumers, but the outsourced country grows it's new consumer base drastically. Growth of the financial system by any means necessary.
Was at a bar with the bartender having a B.A. and wanting to go back to school for their master, saying they wish they could always be a student. What a waste of money to not go into your field then continue with degrees your job will pay for.
Nothing new here. The devaluation of the college degree is something I've seen since the early 80s. Three examples of friends of mine back then...
One guy got a degree in Media Arts, worked as a box-boy for four years as he tried to get in the business. Nothing happened. Another guy got a degree in Resource Geography, became a grocery clerk. Another got a degree in Meteorology, became a delivery driver. Back then I was demonized for not finishing college. Today, I have my own business, own my car, and have two more years of house payments to make. Believe me, even if you do graduate college, you still have about 50 years of real world experience to go through that college simply does not prepare you for.
Love the interior of your car. The seats look so comfortable. What kind of car is that?
The cat in the avatar is great. 😹 Keep speakin truths.
The phrase is Those who can, do. And those that cant, manage. I have never heard it used to reference teachers.
Don't know what you're smoking. It's always been used to reference teaching.
Just ask any film professor.
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Idk why folks would get those worthless degrees in today’s society. I would get a degree in Engineering or automotive. I have an associate degree in criminal investigation and my job is a truck driver. Thanks polygraph test.
Its called google. Type your degree in to see if jobs pop up. Generally stick to degrees a government agency you will hire you with. If you go down that route you can avoid theses worthless degrees.
I just quit my Sales job after 14 years of traveling to exhibit & sell software at tradeshows. Fake people, overworked and nobody cares about your lack of personal life. Now I cruise around on my boat and consult for my old company on my terms and price. 🎉 I help them and keep my mind sharp and make money at the same time
In highschool, they scare us about college. They give us so much book work in highschool and all of our papers had to be turned in on time. They used to get mad at us for talking too much and say... it's not going to be like this in college! Haha omg... college was like preschool again. My teachers weren't always on time, canceled class all the time, and they extended assignments all the time. Everyone was partying all night. My sister literally told me college is a party. Most professors were super lenient on everything. I was shocked. College was more about fun. But they did tell us, everyone can find jobs, it was all empty promises. I got a shitty art degree, I love art don't get me wrong, but I always wanted to start my own business. And I knew I wasn't going to use the degree when I graduated. I got a health coaching degree online for only $1k. Also not using it rn lol. Also, they do not teach you how to write resumes. I had a gen ed class where we literally asked the teacher to help us write resumes and they didn't. Can you imagine being in high school and asking the teacher for homework? Omg they would be the happiest teacher on the planet. Can't believe after all the damn writing classes I had to take, not one damn resume assignment. They also never talk to you about jobs in your degree, or how much money you can make. But I also think that depends on the school and advisor you have
I might end up as a custodian or “maintainer 1” as the college I applied to calls it due to being borderline suicidal because of a recent job switch. Idk. 50-60K I’ll live in a mobile home or something over this stress
Hey Mr. Philosopher, HOW about passing some of that stuff back to US here in the back seat. HUH.