How to Bend The Deepest Flamed Violin Ribs / Master Violin Making School
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- Опубликовано: 30 дек 2019
- Gorgeous Flames on a Master Violin take a special technique, and this is it.
For violin makers, woodworkers and curious violinists.
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Your videos and passion for this are incredibly inspiring. Thank you so much for sharing your awesomeness with the world.
thankyou, youre a life saver
Beautiful Violin!
Thank you so much I find all of your videos very interesting !
Thanks!...so well explained.
Kevin, thanks for sharing this video. So much of the luthier training spends a significant amount of time on the plates and scroll. I enjoyed and appreciate the time that you spent sharing this with us. I've been following your work for a while. It's great to see your new posts.
Thanks! My trouble is that when it comes to the violin and these videos, I can go on for hours about any single subject. Let me know if these are too long, too short or ???
Thanks..I have never heated my metal strop!..we never stop learning as folks who were created...so..we create..thankyou Jesus
Thank you Kevin! You are clear, consise, and very timely. I am attempting just my second set of ribs, and ran across some flamed maple boards so prepared strips for the ribs. I am finding it finicky to get the wood to behave, and your video is very informative about how to fix what I am doing.
Really good. Thank you for sharing. Happy New Year
Excellent demonstration, thank you; as a guitar builder, I can readily see the many similarities with our violin luthier brethren. That makes complete sense, since the modern school of guitar making is derived from the violin; in fact, many great guitar luthiers learned their trade apprenticed to violin builders 👍
Who else freaked out when he grabbed the iron off the table? Haha, "and, of course, it's off" great vid. Thanks
Badass video. Always wanted to see your workshop
It really is a wonderful place, and this is just a tiny portion of it.
Parabéns Kevin! Muito bom!!!
Muito obrigado.
Beautiful work!
I try to make each instrument I make the best one yet, and the "Tangled" violin does stand out in so many ways! Thanks!
Absolutely wild.
Do you have a video where you talk about the various shapes of your instruments and how the overall structure alters the resonance?
Awesome video. Glad to have found your channel! I was practicing bending today as I’m preparing to build my first violin. I chose some pretty deep flamed maple... might have been a mistake but I have hope!
Optimism and excitement. I love it! Just make sure you have a few extra pieces of the deep flamed maple, just in case.
This is the one I’ve been waiting for.
Amazing wood. Not as easy as you make it look !
Don't get me wrong, while it is a simple process, it does take quite a bit of practice pulling apart on the bending strap hard enough and applying enough pressure against the bending iron to keep the wood from cracking. Expect to break a few deep-flamed ribs before you master this skill!
kevinleeluthier And that’s exactly the point. It takes a lot of skill and practice to bend wood of this quality. And if it breaks. Ouch!!
Thanks so much Kevin. Great vid
Happy New Year!
I have "sacrificed" a lot of rare valuable wood along the way, yet you must be willing to practice with the best to have any chance of becoming the best. Happy New Year! and thank you for all your comments!
@@kevinleeluthier You may become the only living maker to have a violin in the Metropolitan museum next to the inlaid Amati and the Strads ! And why not? You were the only living maker certified by Jacques Francais. The Mermaid or Rapunzel and my fav Clay Angel belong there. I wouldn't doubt it.
In a convo with Herbert G years ago, he mentioned that the purfling was devilishly difficult, so much so that some makers( Like Matteo Goffriller) just penciled it in.Yet I saw a guy on you tube do it in about 10 minutes like it was very simple. I do think Herbert meant real purfling as in "bone" or "ebony".
Hopefully some day, you'll do a vid on it. It would be fantastic. Thanks again! , this was a great vid, one of your very best!
@@cjc4765 I make my purfling similar to the way Joseph Guarnerius did because it adds so much more "flavor" to an instrument. I will have to do some close-ups and post it on my website in the near future, and eventually make a video about it. I consider Joseph's process the very best, even when compared to Stradivari's, but does take a "bit" longer than 10 minutes. Yet the cost of art and perfection are always worth it in the end.
Hi, Kevin! Thanks for this amazing video. I’m having trouble finding the short bending strap. Is that something you made yourself? Any tips on how I could get something like that? Thank you again!
thank you
You are so very welcome! As soon as I get out of my neck brace there will be so much more to come.
Greetings from Tennessee, I used your technic for bending heavy curled ribs, the first 3 attempts falled then I wiped the water rather rather than dipping, not sure if the had the bending strap hot enough. Thank you sir
It does take practice. And as always: I would use whatever technique works for you. It is very touchy-feely.
Bravo 🌹🎻🐥
Thanks! I'm glad yo like it. As simple as this video looks to make, I'll be cleaning up and putting away camera equipment, lights, microphones, etc. for at least another hour.
Hi Kevin,
I started the process of building a violin 20 years ago. I got hung up on the rib bending process (and the recession did severe damage to family income, so I had to go to working double time). And basically just haven’t had time to devote to it ever since. I’m now in my mid 50s dealing with late stage prostate cancer and I want to try to finish it if I can.
I didn’t want to invest the money in a rib bending iron for one project so I tried other round metal tubes, including one of my wife’s old curling irons) that would heat up, and yep, broke the first rib.
I would really like to know more about your soldering iron. Yes, I thought about it but thought it would be too hot and burn the wood. And I didn’t know how I would secure it to the bench.
So I’m curious to know more about all of that about your soldering iron. What wattage? What is the attachment the heat is transferred to that you use to bend around? How is it secured in your wood clamp without starting a fire?
Thanks!
Anything wrong with soaking it in water?
Thank your for the top secret of bending.
It's my pleasure.
I have lots violin tools, can i train as a Luther.
Other than making videos, I am not in a position right now to take on an apprentice. Yet, thank you for asking.
Kevinlee that's very good, can you decorate my violin 🎻. I have Giovanni Maggini violin.
Once a violin is varnished there is no way to do "quality" embellishments, and I don't believe that I would consider embellishing someone else's instruments, especially a master violin such as a Giovanni Maggini. Thanks for your comment though!
I've always thought of getting into woodworking as a committed pastime but never thought about luthiering. I can do minimal repairs on the violin that any relatively competent woodworker can do but creating a complex instrument? And making it look and sound good? That's making me shake my boots.
Step by step, and lots of information and tools, is my philosophy. I don't consider myself a fast learner. I just keep going. :)
@@kevinleeluthier is the beginning the toughest time for a violin maker? what is the way to motivate and give yourself confidence to continue while waiting for the day somebody knows you
What was the heat source back in the day - before electricity?
The bending irons were heavy steel, placed in a fire, and wiped clean each time.
I'm curious.... I build boats, this involves steaming wood. I know that you can take a piece of 2 inch square English oak that's 6 feet long, so strong that it won't bend if you stand on it. If you steam it for an hour you can tie a knot in it, and it'll still be there in 200 years. You are effectively steaming those delicate veneers, if scorching them is an issue, why don't you just steam them using only hot steam, like in a steaming bag or box? I wish I had your skill. I'm a beginner violinist at 47 years old. So difficult.
Your comments are wonderful, and I debated bringing this all up:
While steaming is wonderful and works for so many products (and is sometimes the only way to fabricate some products, especially thick ones), bending ribs for a fine violin (only 1.0-1.2 mm thick ) using this technique has these advantages:
It leaves the ribs actually stronger, and the correct elasticity for producing great sound. (other products don't have to sound good ).
It improves the clarity and depth of the flames under fine violin varnish.
And it's actually quicker than traditional "steaming!"
And yes, even though it doesn't "always" make it right, this is the way that Stradivarius and Guarnerius did it. (Stradivari's bending straps and the technique were handed down through Carlo Bergonzi.)
Wow! I'm getting long winded in my old age!
@@kevinleeluthier thank you for that,very interesting. I really enjoy your content, compliments from Cornwall UK, and happy new year to you and yours
@@kevinleeluthier Have you ever read Violin Making by Walter H. Mayson? That guy is long winded!
@@sea0fgreen33 Can't say that I have. Should I? Or maybe not, if long-windedness rubs off :) Happy New Year!
@@kevinleeluthier This is a quote from it, ironically, about being concise -
"If you spend ten minutes in telling a man what form an oval assumes, when you can, by drawing it for him on a blackboard, present it before his eye in one minute, and more to the purpose, you not only waste your own time but his also, and commit a breach of trust, in that you mislead and mystify when it was your duty to faithfully guide and teach in all sincerity and simplicity."
Happy New Year to you as well :)
I own a proper violin/viola bending iron..I started using a leather strop to do my bending..but changed to a steel strop..not much difference..but the leather dries out and ismnot as flexible.