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When I was working at Harley we had this issue with a handful of bikes. Dunlop released a bad batch of tires that we had to be replaced. People don't understand just how important tires are on your motorcycle. Properly inflated and maintained tires could be the difference between making it home safe and ending up in the hospital.
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I just saw a discussion talking about different tires on the Fat Bob completely changing how the bike corners. I think they mentioned Dunlop too
I was told by the dealer that regardless how new your vehicle is weather bike or car you should check the manufacturer date of the tire. Every tire has one. Just like you said the vehicle could be brand new and just sitting and the rubber starts to wear. I was told anything over 5 years should be changed.
Thanks for the info!
Def at five years, check the condition after even a year of no use.
Shoot, one season is enough to check condition.
I check before each ride ~ not thoroughly but I def check
Seems like they need to have a recall for this issue. I'm glad you identified it, and they are getting it resolved for you. All Indian customers deserve the same result.
Agreed
Recalls are for problems with actual mechanical, electrical or electronic components of the bike itself not tires. Indian/Polaris does not manufacture tires. Recalls are for issues like the high speed wobble brand new 2024 Harleys are having because of a flaw in the design of the bike or software issues with the ECM like new 2024 Harleys are having.
Glad you're ok and it turned out to be an easy fix. I always recommend checking the date on new tires. They might be the first time mounted on a bike, but manufactured several months to years ago. Stay safe!
Thank you very much!
Great customer service. That's always a huge plus in my book. I would say that geometry coupled with that frame would make the bike more sensitive to and possibly magnify any tire issues. It's an awesome looking machine and I'm glad you didn't have to return it.
I totally agree!
I’m glad Indian back up their product, I really really like their brand and costumer service 🤙🏽
I’m glad you’re okay Rob. Haven’t experienced that when I had the Challenger. As always ride safe😎🙏🏾
Thank you very much!
Happy you are OK and was able to help others identify the problem. I did what you said about setting the cruis control at 40, 50, up to 70. I had a similar wobble but not as bad as you described. I just took my Pursuit D-H Premium back to the dealer to get serviced. Thanks for the information.
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Thank you Rob, for getting this problem on the table. Seems to me that this is an issue that can happen to anyone, independent from what brand of motorcycle one rides! Tyres are very important, they're the contact between you and your motorcycle and the road. Worth checking once in a while. I wish you lots of happy miles on that nice looking Indian! Greetings from The Netherlands!👍😎
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Glad Indian was able to help and you got it running like it should. I have to say, that is one beautiful bike!! Love the color contrast and love the styling! Congrats sir and thanks for the tip!
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It’s not just challenger’s my 2023 Springfield darkhorse is doing it as well but thank you for finally bringing this problem to light 🙏🏼
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What brand and model tire is it.
@@robertbalzer4125 cruisetec
Glad the problem was fixed for you. I have a 2023 as well and have not had that issue. My friend, however, did and our dealer in OKC corrected the issue with a new tire. The only issue I have with my new Pursuit is that the GPS has to be the absolute worst in the world! Great videos! Ride Safe.
Me too. Thanks!
One of the most important things I learned when taking the course at Harley… turn your head and look straight, look down and the bike will follow
Love your channel. Got hit by the motorcycle bug about 2 months. Long and short, I purchased a 2022 Fatboy. Low mileage. Had a dirt bike many years ago. Started watching your videos and have been more than helpful. Have only had bike about 3 weeks and been practicing at a close by school lot. Live down here in Camden county Ga. Headed to the Harley riding school in 2 weeks in Savannah. Thank you soooo much for your instructions. Maybe make it up to Pooler one day for some lessons🎹🎷🎸🎤😀
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You almost have to make it your business to come to Pooler for a session. You’re so close!
Congratulations on the Fat Boy! Now show it who the Boss is!!
Happy to hear you got such great help and the problem was a simple fix. I am a firm believer that tires can make or break a motorcycle. (no pun intended) I have ridden tires that I thought were just fine and then at a tire change upgraded to better tires and I am going, Wow! this is like a new motorcycle! I didn't know it would corner so smoothly. Yep, I am kind of obsessed with tires these days.
Thank you very much!
Same thing happened to my 2015 Ultra Limited last year. I had both tires replaced this spring and the problem went away. The wobble would always happen when I would let off the gas above 40 mph. Hope you enjoyed Milwaukee. My home dealership is the House of Harley. Service department there is great.
I did enjoy it. Thanks! That dealership was impressive!
Man, you are lucky. Not many dealerships would have gone the extra mile to resolve your problem. Most of us would have gotten the famous "we can't find the problem, good luck!".
Tell that manager at Indian of Savanah that I'll be buying my Indian from his dealership....as soon as I hit the lottery!
Good luck 🤞
I have never had this happen with Indian... Now the other brand... Yes..
Will do! They do a pretty good job in that category.
Robert, Good info. Glad you did the analysis, talked with techs & engineers, and got the right answer. Who would have known? Good thing they didn't push you off with no resolution. I for one can tell you my experience with Indian/Polaris. My 2014 Indian Vintage engine cut off shortly after starting, over & over again, months after I bought it from a private party. I took it to my local dealer, Boston Indian, actually in Revere, Ma. Lots of Indian owners aren't so fortunate since dealers are spaced far apart. So they came back with good news: "It's covered". It was a factory defect on the ECM, the electric control module. Fortunately for me I went to the dealer who was aware of the issue. Unfortunately for those who buy used, Polaris does not (or can not) seek out 2nd owners to send a 'notice recall'. I later found the Indian recall & reposted it on an Indian owners internet facebook site to let others know about this real, known issue. I am so glad you too are concerned about bike owners and take the time to make issues heard. thanx.
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Great info for Indian owners
Sounds like Dealership did a outstanding job finding the problem
😂 SHOULD only take common sense,QUICKLY lol,after the FIRST tank slapper....🤔 'I gotta check my tires,FIRST'.
But why did they give him old tires from the beginning? Not good.
I really hope they gave him a new tire for free!
@mikethebike6825 they didn't GIVE him 'old tires',like HE DID say,alota bikes SIT for MONTHS in ONE SPOT,not even takin off the stand,it will make tires lose 'roundness' if it's NOT a good tire off rip anyway,but ANY vibrations, tank slappin,run offs to the left or right.....after riding since 1989,IMMA CHECK MY TIRES 1ST!!! I woulda been just a LITTLE embarrassed if I teach a riding course but needed help to figure out all I needed was a new set of tires! THATS JUST MY OPINION,u know some get mad because u don't agree with THEIR opinion.TBH it sounds like a WEAK SHOT at Indian (better bikes now) coming from HD riders,this could have been kept to themselves,him a the goofy 'tall' SHOULD be embarrassed JUST A LIL BIT,but the FOLLOWERS are too dumb to know that they really don't know as much as they think they do about these bikes lol...but hey,goofy,fake,is 'in' now,real and truth is OUT lol.😤 easy 2 CAPITALIZE off IGNORANCE these days lol.
In the END! INDIAN IS A BETTER BIKE,u gotta get a 40k+ cvo to get what Indian gives u outta the gate! AND I BOUGHT A HD BECAUSE I WAS A FOLLOWER TOO,INDIAN WAS HERE 1ST,AND AFTER DOIN ALOTA RESEARCH, IM FKIN INDIAN,NUTN TO DO WITH AFRICA 🤣!!!! SO IM GOING INDIAN NOW,DAMN A HD! If I can do that lol...POWER,TECHNOLOGY,LOOKS,INDIAN FTW!
@@Gorealaracer38 You do what you want. I'm not saying HD is better. It doesn't matter to me. I ride japanese. 😆
the tire replacment is interesting. it does make me question gear to rpm ratio. I have seen people post videos on a headshake going around corners but if you zoom in on the rpms.. they were screaming and that alone would cause issues. either way... these new bikes are nice.
Good info, that same thing happened to my Harley. You are correct a lot of these tires may be new to teh road but not brand new.
Thank you very much!
Glad to hear you didn't have to return this bike, I'm really looking forward to YOUR review
Thank you very much!
Glad to hear you had the problem corrected & reached out to others to make them aware of the same issue. Your Pursuit is absolutely gorgeous
Thank you very much!
This happens and is a known issue with the 5th Gen Honda Goldwings too. I had a bad front shake but once I switched to a brand new tire the head shake disappeared.
Hey Robert, this is Craig from California, how are you doing. I see you keeping it loaded. I’ve been good and doing my best to stay upright out here in these streets. By the grace of God we good! Always practicing and just wanted to say hello. Stay safe!
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Wow glad it worked out Robert Good to know the dealer had your back. Be safe sir.
Thank you very much!
Rob my man, glad to hear that all worked out wth tht situation. Ill b honest tho, for me I was more worried about how the customer service was handled for u more than Indian finding the problem lol. I knw ur big on Customer service!! Having you back on the Indian Brand (again) is everything.
Thank you very much brother!
It was great meeting you guys in person Tuesday and doing business with o on the Love Jugs. I wish you all well and I hope you have a safe and prosperous rally.
Great meeting you as well. Thank you very much!
I had a set of Metzler tires on my 09 street glide did the same thing. at the dealer they told me low air pressure however, I check my air pressure regularly and I also inspect my drive belt for damage regular basis. One time I found a hole right in the middle of the drive belt. I think a stone went between my sprocket and the belt. It’s important. Good job on the video Rob I enjoy watching your stuff.
Thank you very much!
Rob this was a problem when the challenger came out using the Metzler tires. There is something with that type of tire that it happens on the challenger using that specific tire. I was the service Manager and we had to replace multiple tires on the challengers. Glad you caught it in time.
Metzler tires are pretty bad, I've only had problems with them
@@aliasfakename2267 While I was traveling around in Vegas I got a flat. I have a Street Glide Special and the only tires that were available in my size were Metzler tires.... and I felt a horrible wobble immediately after. Especially when turning. I kept pulling over thinking maybe the PSI was low or possibly I had gotten a flat again. By the time I arrived home in CA I went to have new tires installed. I normally use Michelin Commander III tires. And once the new tires were on....no more issues!
Thank you very much! And thanks for sharing that information brother!
@@texcalitWow that’s so interesting.
@@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle put Commander III's on that bike and you'll be fine!! Known issue, along with Battery Issues...
Thank you for posting this. I thought I was losing my mind with my 2022 Challenger. I had 4700 blissful miles until the dealer replaced both tires due to a sudden groaning noise that sounded like bearings. It was a moan/groan. The tires were covered at 4700 miles. I get the bike back, and this is what exactly what I have experienced since. Took it back after 50 miles to be told they did not feel anything. Rode it home, found the wobble not as bad, however, still there and a little concerning. Took a video, emailed it to them and waiting to hear back (they are closed for the next 2 days). It is going back until corrected.
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Great video and good to know! I have a Pursuit Limited Premium and haven't had that issue. Mine is with the clutch and throttle. I used to have a Vintage and didn't have a problem letting the clutch out in first gear and killing it but my Pursuit has stalled out several times. I start to feel then give it a little more throttle but shouldn't have to do that. Planning on getting that looked at soon.
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Yes have that looked at. 👍🏾
Thank you so much for sharing this video I’m glad Indian was there for you and took care of you
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Dude that bike is sweet!! Glad you got the problem figured out cuz its gonna save alot of people stress. I heard just because a tire is "new" doesn't mean it hasnt been sitting for years and deteriorating. The manufacture date of the tires is very important and ive seen many reviews online including Amazon about "new" tires bought that have been nothing but problems and it always came down to the manufacture date being 5+ years old and tires even splitting once they get some stress on them. That is something I recommend people trying to buy tires look into when buying tires. Try to get the manufacture date of the tires you are purchasing and it should be the last 4 digits of the Dot tire id number on the sidewall. First 2 numbers represent week and last 2 numbers represent year.
Don't think it is a age problem.
That lot number of the tire has a manufacturer defect.
Thanks! Also awesome information!
Congrats on the new wheel,looks great and thanks for the PSA brother stay safe out there!!
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Woaw! Sounds like a scary experience to have ! I'm happy for you it didn't get too far 🙏. Also, interesting to see the dealership immediately behaved right. Nice warning for the affected Indian owners
Absolutely!
Sounds like something that everyone with a new bike needs to check
Harley especially!
@@yuppy1967 why Harley especially? Sounds like an Indian problem, but Indian doesn't make tires....neither does Harley
It seems to be a Metzler tire issue from what I'm hearing and what I've witnessed. Metzler is the stock tire on challengers and pursuits. I had a Kawasaki Vaquero, also a heavy, fixed fairing bagger. When it needed tires I put the Metzlers on and it did that shimmy shake. It's very unsettling. Always check your tire pressure, helps prevent cupping of the tire on these heavy bikes.
Over 6000 miles on my Pursuit DH Premium Icon and we're G2G.
I agree.
@@RidingandWrenching I had experienced a similar issue with my 2020 Harley Ultra. once the tire was changed, it went away. So i think maybe this issue goes to how these dealers transport/store the bikes or the lack of tire rotation, especially on a bike that weighs in at almost 1000 lb.
My Challenger has done this with a well worn front tire... it had started cupping and it was the cause of the instability at 45-50mph. With hand off the bars it would shimmy like it was trying to start a tank slapper, just as you stated. Replaced the tire with a new CruiseTec and all is fine.
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I had the same problem on an F6B with, I think a Dunlop. New tire I put on my tour has a wee shimmy to it, but not too bad. Pay attention to your front tire if is shimmies like that, no matter what bike.
Tires are so critical. When I bought my 2008 Heritage, I made the dealer check the tire codes even though they looked new and the bike only had 16,000 miles on it. They ended up putting brand new tires on for me. Within a week, on the third ride, my rear tire tube blew out. I was told they put the wrong size tube in the tire, and it was a tire tube that was known to blow. They refused to help me and said I didn't have any warranty. Dunlop wouldn't help, since the wrong size tube was used.
Good thing I didn't get killed. I thought if I bought a used bike from a Harley dealer that I would feel safe. I never had any problems with the bikes I purchased from private sales. Danbury Harley-Davidson lost my business, and my brother will never buy another bike from them either. He has purchased two Ultra Limited bikes from them in the past.
I'm glad you figured out the problem, Robert!
Wow! Thank you very much!
Thanks for sharing!
Never had a problem with my 2021 Challenger DH but I know for a fact that this issue has been occurring since the 2020 Challengers.
Before right now, I’ve never heard of the fix.
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Wow. Had same thing happen to me on my 21 challenger when I changed my tires. I was on the road going across to west coast so was thousands of miles from home. And happened on a Sunday so no dealer open.. when I took to dealer in California it wasn't happening again. Dealer had no clue as to what it could be.. hasn't happened again but now I'm aware of what it was. And this occurred with Metzlers.. THANK YOU for info. Glad you got resolved and good..
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Thanks for the information. I have a 2022 Pursuit. Thus far I’ve not experienced this issue , however I’ll do that test you spoke of. Thanks again. 👍
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Let us know the results of your test please. 👍🏾
Thanks for this info. I ride an Indian bagger too. Not the same model but it’s good to know service had you
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Well I'm glad you're safe Lieutenant Simmons and thank you for telling everyone, I don't own an Indian I have a Victory Magnum and this thing is running smoothly.
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Future Challenger/Pursuit owner just subscribed, I practice slow speed maneuvers, locking and scraping. I had this issue with my 2004 Vulcan and it was the tires. They mixed radial with bi ply and it would shake at high speeds. Very scary. Make sure you get the right tires. And good ones.
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Thank you for taking the time to get this info out. Have you noticed that this bike and the Challenger ride hot ? At the leg area, I know all V-Twins ride warm. But some are say these ride very hot. Thank you.
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Yes I do notice that.
Excellent Bud I live in New Zealand and it's really cold and wet weather here so My 2022 INDIAN PURSUIT DARKHORSE PREMIUM is parked and covered up until mid September when it's better weather for riding. I will definitely try this out on mine. Thanks again for the great information🫡
Thanks! Let me know what happens with that.
THANK YOU.... I just started experiencing this issue two days ago. I was very concerned that something in the front end was loose. I even pulled over and started shaking and inspecting the front end to see if the axle was loose or if there was play in the wheel bearing. Metzlers are know for "cupping" as they wear out but my tire showed no signs of abnormal wear. I was planning on pulling off the fairing this weekend and check if the goose neck bolt was loose. >>>> Thanks again for researching this issue and then putting it out there. BTW... great Channel too. 😎
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My 2018 Honda Goldwing DCT Tour also had the same issue due to the tire. I even had Centramatic wheel balancers installed.
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I work for one of the big three. I always change my factory tires on newer cars that I owned. In the past 30 years because some of those tires sit around the tire manufacturer and are bought in bulk . I say always check the date on the tires when they’re manufactured and the rating of customers reviews for each set of tires .
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I have the same shake at 40 on my harley and have been banging my head chasing it. Mine didn't start until after i had new tires put on. Looking more like i got a bad tire as i can't find any other issues... thank you!
Yeah, I was about to say it was the tire. Glad that it worked out. Can't wait to see the video.
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I’m glad I watch this my 2022 pursuit does the same thing at 40mph I called Indian this morning. I’m taking it to the dealer Monday
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I have the same (exact) motorcycle. I had the same problem with the wobble at 40 mph, when my hands were not on the grips. I thought it was because of the Aftermarket (KST) handle bars. After I checked the TP, it was less than 38. I still have the same front tire, at 12K miles, I had to replace the rear tire. Unfortunately, I was stuck in Tampa, on a Sunday, the only place available with a tire, was a Harley rear tire. :( so far, so good.
Same fix for Harley wobble. Check the date on those tires. Even new ones.
Good thing you are sharing this!! Indian owners take notice! Thank you for looking out for Indian owners safety!!
Absolutely!!
Thankyou for sharing ! I love my 2019 Harley RGS I never had that kind of problem, but Indian does alot for performance in their bikes, I do love the classic style of Springfield !
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This same think was happening on My Goldwing. Same resolution as well!
Picked up a new 23 Pursuit premium at Sturgis last week and it has this same issue. I only rode it 11 miles from the dealer to camp to trailer it back 700 miles home with my vendor gear. Didn't notice it till the first ride this week when I got back. Already on the issue with local dealer and see if we can get new tire on. Thanks for confirming I'm not crazy!
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Nice info LT. ! Safe travels and continued blessings sir!
Thank you very much!
A recall sounds reasonable. I’m glad you got it figured out
Thank you very much!
I agree, every manufacturer tire has a date code on it. Remember when all of those Firestone tires were failing back in 2000 and they recalled millions of them? I'd bet if a fatal accident occurred and one of these tires was the culprit they'd issue a recall. Damn shame
Solid video Robert!!! And I would caveat this issue is not brand specific. Any biker and brand will experience this if the tires are stored, shipped, etc., as you described. Ride safe!!!!
Thank you very much! And you are absolutely correct.
Had the same issue with my 2018 tiger 1200 new tires fixed the issues also, crazy part was it was my 3rd set of tires that did this.
Wow!
Thanks Robert. I did this test today on my 2023 Pursuit after getting my 500 mile service done and the Handlebars shook violently. The guys over at Indian OC here in CA told me to bring it back and they will take care of it. Thanks Again for this video. I’m sure that I might not have never known about this issue had it not been for this vid. :)
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This channel is so informative! I'm going to check for this on my Challenger. Thanks!
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Great video appreciate it. I have a 22 pursuit and a 22 Springfield. Welcome from Naples fl
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This happened to my Wing through certain tires. Glad the problem is resolved.
Thanks!
It's not just the Indian pursuit. I bought a sports bike brand new and they shipped it to me and it had a violent shake or vibration. I inspected the front tire and it had 2 indents or bubbles in the front tire. When they shipped the bike they strapped it down massively on a metal rack and shipping type metal container, and it was strapped down so tight that it put 2 indents in the tire.
Im glad nothing crazy happened in the road. On a side note, I’m loving how this bike looks.
You and me both!
Common issue with the Challengers so it'd make sense that it affects the Pursuits also. I've had 2 Challengers and both had their front tire replaced under warranty, one at 400 miles and one at 1100 miles. Both times there was no issue once the new tire was placed on. My current bike has 14K on the replacement tire, and although it's starting to cup a little, the initial issue never came back.
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Hey LT! 😊 My comment is before your time…………..Nip It, Nip It, Nip It! That is what Deputy Sheriff Barney Fife used to say on the Andy Griffith Show. I am so glad you caught this early, had it addressed, and nipped it in the bud right away! 😎
Hey Karen. Thank you very much! 😀
I just changed the front tire on my '17 H-D RGS for the same thing. The bike has 6,000 miles on it but the problem started at a much lesser degree and has been there since it was new off of the showroom floor. At first it was very minor and I kept telling myself I would just live with it but last week it felt like it was starting to wobble with both hands on the bars so I felt it was now a safety concern. I was being told the same thing that tires never cause a wobble and that it is always in the steering neck or wheel BRGS. I have a lift and know how to test these things and had done so multiple times including spinning the wheel to check for tire run out. This time last week when I put it up on the lift I checked the tire last because of what I had been told by the dealer and an Independent shop that I trust and when I spun the wheel I found the tire had a very minor wonky spot in it that shimmied like a Hula girl on each rotation. I said Ahhaw! and since putting a new tire on it I have a better riding motorcycle than I've had since new. Now I can take my hands completely off the bars. Strait and smooth as silk. The Motorcycle tire Store I went to said the OE tires H-D puts on their bikes are garbage and they had seen lot's of this in recent years. I put a Dunlop American Elite on to match the tread of the rear tire being the H-D branded Dunlop OE tire. I hope the rear one holds up through the tread wear life as it is the same poor quality as the original front. The Dunlop American Elite is an upscale more expensive tire compared to the original.
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Glad they straightened it out Rob.
Thanks!
My 2019 Goldwing DCT does the same thing, I had a new tire installed last year and it went away, however, after wear and use of the tire, it has returned. Not sure why, but, must be something to do with the cupping and how the tire wears on my bike. I've just learned to live with it not let pressure off the bars at 40 and below. Maybe the balancing plates they make for my bike would eliminate the issue with tire wear.
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Thanks for the update! Love my 22 Pursuit! Best bike I have ever owned 11 that is. No issues for me so far.
Good to hear!
My 2018 Harley-Davidson road glide did the same thing when I bought it back in 2018 the solution was the same (replaced with a new tire) after they checked out the entire front end.
I'm with you - one of the 150 who purchased the 2023 Pursuit Elite. It has the wobble and I researched and found your video. Thanks. Problem I have had is the dealer is oblivious and told me that this is just something this model does! I asked them how they basically blamed design flaw and asked how they came to that conclusion. I was told they test rode their other Pursuits and compared!!! I called Polaris and they told me it was the tire and they were contacting the dealer to get them to change out the tire. I will give the dealership some hell AFTER they correct the problem. Fingers crossed this fixes the wobble for my bike. Otherwise, I love my Pursuit but can't understand why Indian hasn't issued something proactively especially given this is among the most expensive models they offer. I have owned a Victory CCT, Indian Roadmaster 2016 and now this Pursuit. My loyality is shaken not because this has happened but in the way it's being handled.
That’s terrible! The tire is the fix as long as they don’t get it from a bad batch. They should have been calling Polaris, not you! Let me know how it turns out please via email. Info@bethebossofyourmotorcycle.com
We're u able to get the issue resolved?
Thank you for the heads-up. Good lookin’ out.
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Great information as always ride safe and enjoy congratulations on the new bike
Thank you very much!
My son just had a brand new Dunlop delaminate on the front of a Harley he was mounting it on for a customer. Glad it happened on the test ride and not to the customer! He safely limped it back to the shop.
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Wow, that's crazy. Glad you got it all figured out!
Thanks brother!
I had done a demo ride on a Pursuit in June. Half of the ride was in the 40-45mph range. No shaking. Metzeler makes tires in Mexico and Germany. I do remember Harley guys in the 2000s with the Mexico made tires. So this causes me to ask. Were the tires made in Mexico?
I remember seeing videos on the goldwing’s doing the same thing
Thank you for posting. Picked up my bike 2 weeks ago, took it is for the 500mi service on friday and noted a few things and for them to check. I noted the vibration in the handlebars, but did do this test before taking. I asked that they check the tire pressures while it was there and said it was good to go and no recalls. Went out sunday and did this test on a non-congested straight road after being out on some twisties and sure enough it happened. Felt the vibration while riding earlier, but did test it until I was on a flat straight rode. Called/emailed the dealer to request a new front tire. Did you record the DoT numbers for the batch/week of production? Just curious.
DOT 1xl 1S733J (4822) (48th week of 2022)
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No I did not.
I've had the exact same trouble on my 2010 Triumph Rocket 3. New tyre was doing this. Changed brand and it was fixed 🇦🇺
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My Harley Electra Glide did this (violently) during its 1st year, dealership changed front tire & it cured the issue. I ran a set to over 20k & it happened again. I still run the Dunlop Elites & change them out at 15k & it hasn't happened since. (85,000 miles, on my 6th front tire) Happy to hear Indian stands behind their customers.
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I have a 2022 Pursuit Limited that I purchased in September and have had no problems that I've noticed until recently.
Upon getting close to my 5000-mile service, I had my cruise set at 35 mph and removed both of my hands from the bars to adjust my helmet, and I got the violent shaking you're talking about.
While I had it in for the service, it was on the list of the 2 things that I wanted to have checked out. Unfortunately, the technician didn't ride it before he started the service. As I was getting my keys and paying the bill, the technician stopped for a quick talk and told me that he thought it had to do with the fixed fairing and low tire pressure. I keep a constant eye on the air pressure with the TPMS on the ride command, and it was only down 2 lbs.
I also had a Vetter fixed fairing back in the early 80s, and it never shook no matter the speed or air pressure.
It's my belief that there is a problem with the tire. Unfortunately, the dealer that I use is understaffed and always in a hurry. I intend to keep riding it until it gets worse, and then I'll take it back again. Now that there's a record of it and I have the tire warranty, any other problem should be covered.
Don’t wait. A problem has been identified. Take it back and have it resolved.
Great vid and info,btw your bike looks really cool. Thanx.
Thank you very much!
Glad to hear they found the problem.👍🏿
Congrats / Beautiful Machine / 2020 Challenger DH. Many of use including myself have delt with this EXACT situation.
Thank you very much! Wow!
Glad it worked out for you without incident Robert. What tires do those Indian Pursuits have on them? Just curious..
Thank you very much! Metzeler.
Great vid on bike safety!
Thanks
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my new 23 Pursuit doesnt seem to have this problem.. My 20 challenger i bought beginning of 21 did, at around 70 kph. Now, i have seen videos where owners had it happen very violently like you say, well on mine it was sort of mid range.. not aggressive but not lightly either.
Didnt really bother with it as my 20 had other issues as well, so i got rid of the bike asap, traded it in for my new pursuit and couldnt be happier.
One thing to ask, check your diagnostics sometimes. Mine and my clubmembers pursuit here in Belgium both have it from time to time: an "unknown" error will pop up.. my dealer doesnt know what it is yet and i have seen other owners on facebook groups reporting the same code
That's great they took care of you and your bike! I have to wonder if they would treat everyone the same or if they gave you better treatment due to your popularity on social media. Just a thought. Thanks for bringing that issue to light.
They are pretty good there at taking care of the customers.
When you felt the "bump" at slow speed was it only turning in one direction? Wonder if it sat on the stand long enough o develop a flat spot...
It didn’t sit on a stand long at all. They built it and delivered it and I picked it up.
Nice catch man! Good info...
Glad u found the issue brother! Me I wish I can ride mine…haven’t ridden in 5 weeks…don’t have the time
Thank you very much!
Are they Dunlop tires? I think I just got a bad one which my belt guard that always fit didn't fit now it's got a knife edge cut on the largest part of my 300 hundred dollar tire. Plus labor at 120 hr.
No it’s not Dunlop, but this same thing happens with other tire manufacturers.
I have the same problem on my Yamaha FJR when I use a light touch on the handle bars and as my tire would wear it would get worse. I tried different tires and some were better and some were worse. I tried different air pressures and that helped on some tires and not on others but as the tires would wear they would get uneven wear and cupping and the shaking would come back alive. Even different types of pavement would affect the intensity of the wobbling shaking. Nothing really totally gets rid of the light touch shaking. I even added a fork brace and it still does it. The one thing that I have not checked is to see if the spring pressure/rebound in the front two forks are equal. Anyway, you will know as your tire wears if its really just the tire.
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