@@MikeMu Would you or Mattias be able to comment on the APS-H version of the DP? I'm wondering if that causes complications with lens selection. For example, does the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 cover the full image sensor of the APS-H or do you need to use full frame glass? Thanks
@@nicholassmith7723 You'll most likely need full frame glass. (I don't have access to the SD Quattro H, just experience with Canon sensor size equivalent.)
Before I got the Sd Quattro, I kept hearing how bad the Battery life is. So when I purchased it, I also got the Battery Grip. Ive been shooting with the SD Quattro for 3 years doing Landscape, and Ive never had an issue with the Batteries at all. Ive shot all day and only had one of the 3 Batteries in the camera go down. I actually think the Batteries in my Sony A7r go quicker then the ones in my Sd Quattro. When I shoot Landscape, most times I use a Tripod. Your right its not a run and gun camera, but Ive walked around in the Forest or HIking with my Sd Quattro many times with NO Tripod and got great super sharp images..
I love my SD Quattro. The only thing I really miss is any depth of field preview. And with a still subject, obviously on a tripod, the SFD mode can create remarkably GREAT results with increased dynamic range and much-reduced noise. Great personable review! -Tom
The best review and comparison of the Sigma dp and sd quattro cameras for sure. Not enough people take these cameras seriously and are too focussed on speed - guess it's a sign of the times we live in. Enjoy shooting with the sd quattro which is almost like going back to film days when ISO100 was a fast film and you took your time because film was expensive. I am afraid today's photographers are somewhat spoilt where speed is concerned. Image quality straight out of camera is incredible regarding not just detail but depth and quality of colour - almost a 3D effect. Battery life is not a problem if you take your time and don't waste shots - look alike batteries are cheap enough and I usually have at least 4 already charged with me. Only two problems I have found are: wanted to bracket ISO and delay shutter rather than use a remote release but they are on same menu so you can only do either or - forced you to use remote release. More serious is an apparent firmware bug - if you set ISO bracket to anything but zero even if you do not select bracketing (not single shot) then camera goes wild! Exposure adjustment and shutter speed in A priority leap around at random. Thought my lens was faulty but true on three different lenses - cured by setting back to zero when camera behaves.
Hi thank you for your insight. However, could you please elaborate on ISO bracketing? I'm not sure what you meant there considering the sdQ is considered to be a 100 ISO camera in use. But do enlighten. Thank you
This was a really nice, balanced review. A lot of camera videos are pretty adhd, it's nice to watch a slow, measured video with a ton of details. :) Are you still shooting with either of these cameras? I'm picking up a used DP2, looking forward to trying it out, I like slow cameras, I think it's going to be fun.
Dear Mike .. Hi. tQ for the fantastic review - i love how clear the vid footage is + u seem to have a fantastic flair in putting down, picking up, turning round the camera in review - so much fun watching it being done. (actually i just discovered the Sigma SD Quattro via yuor kind cahnnel above) again tQ n take care.
Just got the quattro sd . Love it traded in from my old dp Merrill but the 21 by 9 was worth . The only thing I don't like I can't shoot dng and jpeg. You only get raw and jpg which puts me using their Sigma Pro Photo for the raw again. I'm not sure why they left that out if it was technical or not
It could be due to processing and file size. But I could be wrong. Personally, I'm still new to the Foveon sensor and this camera but after watching the limited number of English videos on the sdQ, and the fact that storage is still relatively pricey for a hobbyist, I personally chose to stick with RAW only and use the SPP software instead.
A helpful comparison review - thanks for putting this together! A couple of points that might be worth looking into - The colour saturation differences between the 2 cameras might be down to the settings you had at the time on the SD Quattro. Colour space option of Adobe RGB or sRGB will give you a different bias toward red and green saturation. Also on the SDQ there is a 'Tone curve' setting that is there to elevate highlight detail when shooting against the light and it can set to 'off' 'medium' or 'strong' the later is almost like setting to LOG or sLOG on other cameras. All that said, on the SDs there are a lot of sub-menu controls for adjusting the white balance - including White Balance Bracketing and Color Mode Bracketing ... these can be used for High Dynamic Range image processing - and due to 'stacked' nature of the capture will also reduce sensor noise in the final compiled image. (I'm assuming this is all true for the SD Quattro as it is for the SD Quattro H!) And I should add ... as you bought 'slightly used' the previous owner may well have changed the color mode to either standard or neutral or even vivid(!) ... that could also account to the significant higher saturation and contrast on your SD photos.
Thanks for watching and the helpful comment! For my test I went in there and manually adjusted all the settings to match up. That includes the color space, tone curve, detail levels, color profile etc. However, I should double check again as one can never be too careful. Also, besides the straight out of camera examples to JPG, I also use the raw files, all zero'd out and same settings. I'll reset everything on both and see if that makes any difference. (edit - 30 minutes later) I reset all settings on X3F, Sigma Photo Pro. Same results. dp2 Quattro handled the art scene better than the SD Quattro IMO. I will try shooting DNG and using a color checker chart for more critical color.
Thanks for checking the setup you have - it's interesting the significant difference. I'm intrigued if you can put your finger on what/why it's happening. I'll have to try some tests myself now! Have been using DNG file format as its easier than the native file type (with Adobe products). BTW just updated the firmware on mine to v1.02 - seems to make the start up more snappy for one thing.
I'll do some passport color checker charts and try DNG format since the colorchecker I have was designed for lightroom anyway. I've never used the Sigmas for color critical work before, but I have thought about it for photographing my mom's many pieces of art over the years. I should have more to share later. But maybe not fully until early October I'm afraid.
The dynamic range is fairly well covered by technical reviews using DXO Mark Software. It has great total dynamic range, but the quality of that range is poor due to high levels of noise. Imaging resources has a great writeup on it here: www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sigma-dp2-quattro/sigma-dp2-quattroA5.HTM Sigma has a Super Fine Detail mode which takes 7 photos for improved dynamic range and noise, but I haven't used it seriously yet. The required tripod, processing and time alone means I have to set a good amount of time aside to try this out using Sigma's Photo Pro software. I'm sure the results are going to impress though. As I shoot more with the SD Q, I'll make some comparisons in a future video or post.
@@MikeMu How could one not! Look at the fantastic resolution, colors, and contrast in this 4 year old video! Blows my mind. Funny thing, I was searching for used NX1 deals and discovered the SD Quattro. I'm now searching for one and the 18-35mm 1.8. What lens did you use for this video?
I have the SDq. Love the ergonomics and images. I don't mind switching to B/W in higher Iso situations BUT : it is sloooooooooow. Love the output. I also have a DP2 Merrill and wanted a DP1 Merrill for wider angle shots... Sigma really has some impressive glass.
Hi thanks for the comparison! Do any of these cameras give a live view on an external monitor for studio work? I want to use one on an overhead copy stand mount for digitising artworks in sections.
Nice review. I think the difference in weight between the two cameras is a key factor. It's easy to use the DP2Q as a carry around but you're asking for back ache if you do the same with the SDQ. Of course, the former lacks an EVF which is a major pain. Even in the UK, we occasionally get sunshine and then it's horrible using the DP2Q outside. Was interested to see that you reckon the two lenses perform the same by about f4. Thanks for posting.
That *would* be pretty sweet. I actually have all that. Just waiting for my a6500 to be repaired... Focusing leaves quite a bit to be desired with some of the art glass I've been using though.
I have a complete Nikon system... Still haven't upgraded my SD14. My biggest point of resistance to Sony is the limited physical controls on the A6k series. Bummer the AF is suboptimal on the Sonys with MC11.
@@peterzpictstube I have the A7III and A6600. Just discovering these Sigma Foveon sensors now and I'm really intrigued. I had some Canon mount Art glass in the past and I would definitely be intrigued to compare the SDQ with my Sony cameras.
Nicholas Smith yes you could get sigma mount glass and use the MC11 converter on your Sony’s bad part is Sigma SA mout is dead since all future cameras will be L mount. But they have a converter for them.
@@peterzpictstube Soooo maybe the SA art glass will drop significantly on the used market? Probably a lot harder to come by since it wasn't that popular, but we'll see. Honestly not sure if it's the best place to invest the money considering the iso limitations and slower af. Maybe I can find one to rent first
Hey Jeffry, thanks for the comment. I simply try to figure out what I'd have personally like to have known myself and share it. Both those lenses would be very fine additions, however I have the 18-35mm for Canon mount at this time and will have to save up to get those for SA. It'll take a while but I'm sure they are the best matched for this camera.
F4 on a Sigma body? I don't mind F4 on my Canon or Nikon because I can crank up the Iso without too much noise issues but with sigma you are meant to shoot at low Iso...
Die SD Qattro H hat einen etwas größeren Sensor und ist leicht besser als die SD oder DP Serien, die Merrill waren sogar noch besser, werden aber nicht mehr hergestellt.
Very good test video Mike Mu :) But try out the older sigma merill series: (DP1M-DP2M-DP3M) much sharper image and lots of more microdetails in the pictures than the SD Quattro or the DP Quattro series, and with these cameras I have taken good street photos handheld, and you can bring all three of them in a small photo bag with you ;)
Hi Knut Olson. Thanks for coming by, watching, liking and commenting! If I get an opportunity to try one of those legendary cameras... I'll do as you suggest and maybe throw away my other cameras hahaha. I hear the straight out of camera JPGs aren't that great. Is that your experience? I don't know if my technique and patience with using the Sigma Photo Pro software to process is going to make me want to use the Foveon raw all the time. These newer gens with the DNG capability is that tipping point for me, and probably many others.
Yes the JPGs is not usable,but the big X3F files thats come out of these cameras is the real thing,and you must use Sigma Photo Pro Software.But what you get back in the image is clear (sharp) 3D "medium format" quality with extra microcontrast In it :) And the little extra time it takes to convert it in PPS is worth it...
Indeed, I once had the original Sigma DP 123 Merrill cameras, which (foolishly, it turns out) I sold in order to buy the Sony a7rii and a couple Zeiss Loxia lenses. Not that there's anything I regret about the Sony or the images I can obtain with it. When the DP Quattro series was first introduced I thought it a step backward, considering the Foveon design aims. I've always wanted to hear from someone who has used both. So, Knut, I much appreciate your comment here. I am once again at a crossroads deciding whether or not to return to Foveon. If I were to go that way, I would get the Quattro "H" which has more resolution than the basic sd Quattro. It also "forces" us to use the ART lenses because the H sensor prefers full frame lenses. So, why mess about with alternatives! The cropping factor is a saner 1.3. I always used my DP Merrills handheld with a 2-sec delay and was able to get good results that way for non-moving objects even at ridiculously slow shutter speeds. Another nice thing about the ART lenses is that I can use them with my Sony, and between the two cameras and a couple prime lenses each, cover all of my needs - the DP1 being not wide enough, the DP3 not long enough. BTW, the optional battery grip may be better thought of as a vertical grip with dual-battery capability, rather than the other way around. Such grips are a godsend for people like me who just can't seem to hold a camera straight in vertical operation.
Leonard, I think you should consider trying the Quattro H - sounds like you do too. Like you said, the SA ART lenses will at least live a decent second life on your Sony A7RII. If you do get the H, please share your thoughts.
Knut, do you have any resources or shares of Merill X3F files I can perhaps play around with on Sigma Photo Pro? Is there a special version of Sigma Photo Pro, or will using the latest versions also work to give the best results?
@@MikeMu yeah I don't know they're on sale right now I think 800 with the lens or 900 I think it just might be too much trouble I want want to see if they put the KP or K1 on sale from pentax lot of comparisons at the K1 sensor holds its own
White balance accuracy might be nice to know, but it has no effect on actual color rendition. In fact, there is no such thing as a "color rendition" on camera's. The color rendition comes purely from software. At the end of the day, red is red, blue is blue, and green is green, and each has a brightness value associated with it, not an actual color. The colors come from color profiles manufacturers make up. Profiles that if you have the formula for, can be applied to any RAW file. That's one of the biggest lies perpetrated on photography by manufacturers, they just want people to buy digital photo filters essentially, by buying into their camera system. With the right profile, anyone can make a Nikon look like a Sony, or a Canon look like a Nikon....or anything look like a Quattro....at least when it comes to colors. Sharpness and noise specs are a different story though.
I have the SD Quattro H and highly recommend it. For me, it's number 1 best features is that it DOES NOT SHOOT VIDEO.
Nice review, thank you for taking the time!
Thanks for taking the time watch and comment. Big fan of your channel :)
@@MikeMu Would you or Mattias be able to comment on the APS-H version of the DP? I'm wondering if that causes complications with lens selection. For example, does the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 cover the full image sensor of the APS-H or do you need to use full frame glass? Thanks
@@nicholassmith7723 You'll most likely need full frame glass. (I don't have access to the SD Quattro H, just experience with Canon sensor size equivalent.)
Before I got the Sd Quattro, I kept hearing how bad the Battery life is. So when I purchased it,
I also got the Battery Grip. Ive been shooting with the SD Quattro for 3 years doing Landscape, and
Ive never had an issue with the Batteries at all. Ive shot all day and only had one of the 3 Batteries in the
camera go down. I actually think the Batteries in my Sony A7r go quicker then the ones in my Sd Quattro.
When I shoot Landscape, most times I use a Tripod. Your right its not a run and gun camera, but Ive walked
around in the Forest or HIking with my Sd Quattro many times with NO Tripod and got great super sharp
images..
I love my SD Quattro. The only thing I really miss is any depth of field preview. And with a still subject, obviously on a tripod, the SFD mode can create remarkably GREAT results with increased dynamic range and much-reduced noise. Great personable review!
-Tom
If you've been doing this for a while you could know your depth of field preview by now🤷♂️
Since it is a mirrorless camera, the lens is always stopped down to the value that you selected. The DOF that you see in the viewfinder is what it is.
The best review and comparison of the Sigma dp and sd quattro cameras for sure. Not enough people take these cameras seriously and are too focussed on speed - guess it's a sign of the times we live in.
Enjoy shooting with the sd quattro which is almost like going back to film days when ISO100 was a fast film and you took your time because film was expensive. I am afraid today's photographers are somewhat spoilt where speed is concerned.
Image quality straight out of camera is incredible regarding not just detail but depth and quality of colour - almost a 3D effect.
Battery life is not a problem if you take your time and don't waste shots - look alike batteries are cheap enough and I usually have at least 4 already charged with me.
Only two problems I have found are: wanted to bracket ISO and delay shutter rather than use a remote release but they are on same menu so you can only do either or - forced you to use remote release.
More serious is an apparent firmware bug - if you set ISO bracket to anything but zero even if you do not select bracketing (not single shot) then camera goes wild! Exposure adjustment and shutter speed in A priority leap around at random. Thought my lens was faulty but true on three different lenses - cured by setting back to zero when camera behaves.
Hi thank you for your insight. However, could you please elaborate on ISO bracketing? I'm not sure what you meant there considering the sdQ is considered to be a 100 ISO camera in use. But do enlighten. Thank you
omg is this a humanmade camera or from outer space??? this is so under rated..
This was a really nice, balanced review. A lot of camera videos are pretty adhd, it's nice to watch a slow, measured video with a ton of details. :) Are you still shooting with either of these cameras? I'm picking up a used DP2, looking forward to trying it out, I like slow cameras, I think it's going to be fun.
Dear Mike .. Hi. tQ for the fantastic review - i love how clear the vid footage is + u seem to have a fantastic flair in putting down, picking up, turning round the camera in review - so much fun watching it being done.
(actually i just discovered the Sigma SD Quattro via yuor kind cahnnel above)
again tQ n take care.
Really glad they put a real flange distance on the fp and fpl. They're still out of my pricerange but having an L mount really opens up more options
Just got the quattro sd . Love it traded in from my old dp Merrill but the 21 by 9 was worth . The only thing I don't like I can't shoot dng and jpeg. You only get raw and jpg which puts me using their Sigma Pro Photo for the raw again. I'm not sure why they left that out if it was technical or not
It could be due to processing and file size. But I could be wrong. Personally, I'm still new to the Foveon sensor and this camera but after watching the limited number of English videos on the sdQ, and the fact that storage is still relatively pricey for a hobbyist, I personally chose to stick with RAW only and use the SPP software instead.
A helpful comparison review - thanks for putting this together! A couple of points that might be worth looking into - The colour saturation differences between the 2 cameras might be down to the settings you had at the time on the SD Quattro. Colour space option of Adobe RGB or sRGB will give you a different bias toward red and green saturation. Also on the SDQ there is a 'Tone curve' setting that is there to elevate highlight detail when shooting against the light and it can set to 'off' 'medium' or 'strong' the later is almost like setting to LOG or sLOG on other cameras. All that said, on the SDs there are a lot of sub-menu controls for adjusting the white balance - including White Balance Bracketing and Color Mode Bracketing ... these can be used for High Dynamic Range image processing - and due to 'stacked' nature of the capture will also reduce sensor noise in the final compiled image. (I'm assuming this is all true for the SD Quattro as it is for the SD Quattro H!) And I should add ... as you bought 'slightly used' the previous owner may well have changed the color mode to either standard or neutral or even vivid(!) ... that could also account to the significant higher saturation and contrast on your SD photos.
Thanks for watching and the helpful comment!
For my test I went in there and manually adjusted all the settings to match up. That includes the color space, tone curve, detail levels, color profile etc. However, I should double check again as one can never be too careful.
Also, besides the straight out of camera examples to JPG, I also use the raw files, all zero'd out and same settings.
I'll reset everything on both and see if that makes any difference.
(edit - 30 minutes later)
I reset all settings on X3F, Sigma Photo Pro. Same results. dp2 Quattro handled the art scene better than the SD Quattro IMO. I will try shooting DNG and using a color checker chart for more critical color.
Thanks for checking the setup you have - it's interesting the significant difference. I'm intrigued if you can put your finger on what/why it's happening. I'll have to try some tests myself now! Have been using DNG file format as its easier than the native file type (with Adobe products). BTW just updated the firmware on mine to v1.02 - seems to make the start up more snappy for one thing.
I'll do some passport color checker charts and try DNG format since the colorchecker I have was designed for lightroom anyway. I've never used the Sigmas for color critical work before, but I have thought about it for photographing my mom's many pieces of art over the years. I should have more to share later. But maybe not fully until early October I'm afraid.
Can you talk about the dynamic range of these sigma cameras?
The dynamic range is fairly well covered by technical reviews using DXO Mark Software. It has great total dynamic range, but the quality of that range is poor due to high levels of noise. Imaging resources has a great writeup on it here: www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sigma-dp2-quattro/sigma-dp2-quattroA5.HTM
Sigma has a Super Fine Detail mode which takes 7 photos for improved dynamic range and noise, but I haven't used it seriously yet. The required tripod, processing and time alone means I have to set a good amount of time aside to try this out using Sigma's Photo Pro software. I'm sure the results are going to impress though.
As I shoot more with the SD Q, I'll make some comparisons in a future video or post.
The SD has external Live Preview? Can imagens be recorded direct into a computer?
I thought I recognized that video image quality. Long live the NX1! Loved that camera and have been thinking about picking it up again.
I still use it!
@@MikeMu How could one not! Look at the fantastic resolution, colors, and contrast in this 4 year old video! Blows my mind.
Funny thing, I was searching for used NX1 deals and discovered the SD Quattro. I'm now searching for one and the 18-35mm 1.8.
What lens did you use for this video?
@@VII0777 I use the 16-50mm 2-2.8 with the NX1.
Wished to see some more samples in different light conditions...Are you still using it ?
Great you took the time to compare these two ;-) Thanks alot
I have the SDq. Love the ergonomics and images. I don't mind switching to B/W in higher Iso situations BUT : it is sloooooooooow. Love the output. I also have a DP2 Merrill and wanted a DP1 Merrill for wider angle shots... Sigma really has some impressive glass.
Hi thanks for the comparison! Do any of these cameras give a live view on an external monitor for studio work? I want to use one on an overhead copy stand mount for digitising artworks in sections.
Usb to computer running sigma capture pro should do it.
@@MikeMu doesn’t the bigger camera have HDMI out? Does that give a live view on a field monitor?
Nice review. I think the difference in weight between the two cameras is a key factor. It's easy to use the DP2Q as a carry around but you're asking for back ache if you do the same with the SDQ. Of course, the former lacks an EVF which is a major pain. Even in the UK, we occasionally get sunshine and then it's horrible using the DP2Q outside. Was interested to see that you reckon the two lenses perform the same by about f4. Thanks for posting.
Is dp Quattro series leaf shutter? What’s the fastest shutter you can do at full aperture?
I imagine a dream rig would be a SDQ+A6500+MC11+ Sigma Glass.
That *would* be pretty sweet. I actually have all that. Just waiting for my a6500 to be repaired... Focusing leaves quite a bit to be desired with some of the art glass I've been using though.
I have a complete Nikon system... Still haven't upgraded my SD14. My biggest point of resistance to Sony is the limited physical controls on the A6k series. Bummer the AF is suboptimal on the Sonys with MC11.
@@peterzpictstube I have the A7III and A6600. Just discovering these Sigma Foveon sensors now and I'm really intrigued. I had some Canon mount Art glass in the past and I would definitely be intrigued to compare the SDQ with my Sony cameras.
Nicholas Smith yes you could get sigma mount glass and use the MC11 converter on your Sony’s bad part is Sigma SA mout is dead since all future cameras will be L mount. But they have a converter for them.
@@peterzpictstube Soooo maybe the SA art glass will drop significantly on the used market? Probably a lot harder to come by since it wasn't that popular, but we'll see. Honestly not sure if it's the best place to invest the money considering the iso limitations and slower af. Maybe I can find one to rent first
The sensor in the quattro is not the same as the Merrill and is inferior. You can easily see at 100% image viewing that it resembles a bayer image.
Yup. One can hope they bring the Merill back one day.
Nice review, best I have seen so far :)
Have you considered getting the 18-35 and the 50-100?
Hey Jeffry, thanks for the comment. I simply try to figure out what I'd have personally like to have known myself and share it. Both those lenses would be very fine additions, however I have the 18-35mm for Canon mount at this time and will have to save up to get those for SA. It'll take a while but I'm sure they are the best matched for this camera.
have you used the sd Quattro H and how is its quality, have you checked it out?
How is the image quality between the two..and would the H version of the SD Q make that much of a difference?
It wasn't enough for me to justify the price difference at the time.
Is the Sigma 24-105mm 4.0 DG OS HSM - ART - Sigma lens compatible with Sigma SD Quattro?
Yes.
@@MikeMu Thank you so much
F4 on a Sigma body? I don't mind F4 on my Canon or Nikon because I can crank up the Iso without too much noise issues but with sigma you are meant to shoot at low Iso...
Can other lenses be adapted ? other manufacturers ?
Only m42 mount vintage lenses can be adapted due to the extremely long flange distance.
Thanks for this review!
Die SD Qattro H hat einen etwas größeren Sensor und ist leicht besser als die SD oder DP Serien, die Merrill waren sogar noch besser, werden aber nicht mehr hergestellt.
Very good test video Mike Mu :) But try out the older sigma merill series: (DP1M-DP2M-DP3M) much sharper image and lots of more microdetails in the pictures than the SD Quattro or the DP Quattro series, and with these cameras I have taken good street photos handheld, and you can bring all three of them in a small photo bag with you ;)
Hi Knut Olson. Thanks for coming by, watching, liking and commenting! If I get an opportunity to try one of those legendary cameras... I'll do as you suggest and maybe throw away my other cameras hahaha.
I hear the straight out of camera JPGs aren't that great. Is that your experience? I don't know if my technique and patience with using the Sigma Photo Pro software to process is going to make me want to use the Foveon raw all the time. These newer gens with the DNG capability is that tipping point for me, and probably many others.
Yes the JPGs is not usable,but the big X3F files thats come out of these cameras is the real thing,and you must use Sigma Photo Pro Software.But what you get back in the image is clear (sharp) 3D "medium format" quality with extra microcontrast In it :) And the little extra time it takes to convert it in PPS is worth it...
Indeed, I once had the original Sigma DP 123 Merrill cameras, which (foolishly, it turns out) I sold in order to buy the Sony a7rii and a couple Zeiss Loxia lenses. Not that there's anything I regret about the Sony or the images I can obtain with it. When the DP Quattro series was first introduced I thought it a step backward, considering the Foveon design aims. I've always wanted to hear from someone who has used both. So, Knut, I much appreciate your comment here. I am once again at a crossroads deciding whether or not to return to Foveon. If I were to go that way, I would get the Quattro "H" which has more resolution than the basic sd Quattro. It also "forces" us to use the ART lenses because the H sensor prefers full frame lenses. So, why mess about with alternatives! The cropping factor is a saner 1.3. I always used my DP Merrills handheld with a 2-sec delay and was able to get good results that way for non-moving objects even at ridiculously slow shutter speeds. Another nice thing about the ART lenses is that I can use them with my Sony, and between the two cameras and a couple prime lenses each, cover all of my needs - the DP1 being not wide enough, the DP3 not long enough. BTW, the optional battery grip may be better thought of as a vertical grip with dual-battery capability, rather than the other way around. Such grips are a godsend for people like me who just can't seem to hold a camera straight in vertical operation.
Leonard, I think you should consider trying the Quattro H - sounds like you do too. Like you said, the SA ART lenses will at least live a decent second life on your Sony A7RII. If you do get the H, please share your thoughts.
Knut, do you have any resources or shares of Merill X3F files I can perhaps play around with on Sigma Photo Pro? Is there a special version of Sigma Photo Pro, or will using the latest versions also work to give the best results?
The sensor is called foveon
Does it do raw. I did not hear
It does with more recent firmware!
@@MikeMu yeah I don't know they're on sale right now I think 800 with the lens or 900 I think it just might be too much trouble I want want to see if they put the KP or K1 on sale from pentax lot of comparisons at the K1 sensor holds its own
I wait sd with merrill sensor.
Yeah me too
is it made by the sigma lense making company??
Yes, one and the same.
No 🤷
SD 4 is a Excellent camera!!!!
shooting thru glass to determine sharpness between two different lenses, ummmmmmmmm????????????????, classic
Yeah. If you used a lot of manual glass you can easily get a idea
White balance accuracy might be nice to know, but it has no effect on actual color rendition. In fact, there is no such thing as a "color rendition" on camera's. The color rendition comes purely from software. At the end of the day, red is red, blue is blue, and green is green, and each has a brightness value associated with it, not an actual color. The colors come from color profiles manufacturers make up. Profiles that if you have the formula for, can be applied to any RAW file. That's one of the biggest lies perpetrated on photography by manufacturers, they just want people to buy digital photo filters essentially, by buying into their camera system. With the right profile, anyone can make a Nikon look like a Sony, or a Canon look like a Nikon....or anything look like a Quattro....at least when it comes to colors. Sharpness and noise specs are a different story though.
Not really
for that price just buy a leica t
Definitely points for style. I'd like to try it some day. Still, its Foveon vs Bayer sensor making them different beasts.
Nope...
Nervous clicks, i'm getting sick.