As an SDQH owner myself it's a real pleasure to encounter a sensible appraisal of the camera on You Tube - they're as uncommon as the camera itself. I was attracted by your 'digital roll of film' descriptor in the title - I've always regarded my SDQH as a 'digital transparency film' camera, so think you're on the money with your title. The companion piece you have on workflow is a gem too, so thanks for that - very useful. I hope you shoot yours as an IR camera; I've used mine as such often and it's unique in being able to switch back and forth in seconds while out in the field. I went out configured for IR today but the sun disappeared. Hot mirror popped back in, I was back shooting conventionally within moments. I love it and like you hope Sigma do a full frame jobbie. Wish you and yours well going forwards - great channel!
Ahhh my people! Thanks so much for dropping a comment and I'm so glad to hear of another photographer who loves this system as much as I do. I really need to use the IR capability which I shockingly STILL haven't tried. So thank you for the reminder!!
Fellow owner of an SDQ here! I've been neglecting mine and this video has inspired me to using it again. I took some great photos of the Grand Canyon the last time is took it for a spin.
Dear omtc, I just found a demo Quattro H. It took the shop owner ages to find it in his basement and as he was taking my money he said how happy he was to finally get rid of this camera! But how happy I am to have it 🙂 Photo Pro 6 is...quaint! Thanks for the video.
I've been shooting with Sigma cameras for years, particularly the Merrill generation, which is arguably the best Sigma have ever produced. The DP2 Merrill in particular, has the most impressive tonality and color detail that I've ever seen from a camera, and I also use a Fuji GFX on the regular. The Foveon sensors are not the best for portraits or skin, however they are the closest I've seen that a digital sensor has come to replicating the look of film.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras have both dp1m and dp2m sine 2011.. totally crashed, half destroyed, evnen the lcd has lost ot's plastic protection and have deep black spots, but still works perfectly. I'm just in love with the dp1m.. try to find another one, but it's an unicorn now
Great video! Since 2014 Sigma dp3m is my main camera! I use it for landscape, street and fine art photography! Critical noises in low light are solved by VPS mode! The camera has such high detail that it requires the very best landscape carbon tripods or wooden Berlebach level tripods! I also want to note that the highest color accuracy I had for a couple of years was limited to light filters of famous brands ... Now I see what it is capable of with Rodenstock! Happy shooting everyone! Sincerely, Foveonych from Saint Petersburg!
Great video! I was a Mamiya 7II person until I got my DP2M in 2014 for a few bucks... I was so amazed by it that I quickly got the DP1M and DP3M. Since then these three cameras are what I bring on my trips. Coming from film all the classic drawbacks are nothing... One thing not many people realize about sigma foveons, is that these cameras were designed to portray the beauty of Japanese still life under Japanese lighting... That is lots of rainy days and hazy sun, no harsh light conditions, lots of greens and strong reds... When using these cameras there you realize about all these things... I always shoot 100ISO sunlight WB, It's almost like shooting Velvia. I wish they did something smaller than the SDQ's... It's too big for me! Keep up with the great job!
@@ratinthehat_ the three have the same sensor so the look is quite the same. The Dp2 Merrill field of view is the closest to the standard 80mm lens in the Mamiya 7 range. My advice is starting with the Dp2M is the most versatile.
I mainly use film and the thing that drew me to these cameras is the process. They are not the easiest cameras to use and they truly do make you slow down, kinda similar to film manual film cameras. The colours, man the colours! Cheers for reminding me what a truly marvellous camera these are.
I totally agree - I have a SD Quattro that I love, despite the lack of dynamic range (made better with SFD mode, though still subjects only). My investment in Sigma lenses maintains value with the Sigma fp with the MC-21 adapter - though those big lenses make the fp a big and heavy camera. Your SA-mount lenses WILL work (in DC-crop mode if they're DC lenses) with full automation with the MC-21. The fp is the opposite in having massive dynamic range, great video and small size. Both quirky, both great, both hard to recommend to others but easy to love. -Tom
After enjoying a dp0 Quattro for a while now (THAT lens!!!), and finally having figured out how to get consistently great results from my dp2 Merrill, I had the chance to shoot the same scene with a 5Ds R and L glass versus the dp2 Merrill. The dp2 Merrill blew the 5Ds R out of the water (Quite literally! The scene I photographed was an emerging Skunk Cabbage with a nice spotlight of natural light on it) - it was brutal realizing a 15MP camera blows a 50.6MP camera away in terms of sharpness, detail, color. The Merrill file showed a teeny, tiny spider hanging on a thread in between plant stems that was so small, I couldn't even see it with the naked eye. Both cameras rendered the spider, but the 5Ds R in spite of its higher pixel count does not resolve enough details on the animal to show it as what it is, on the Merrill file, the spider is recognizable as a spider. I knew then that I need to invest into something like an sd Quattro or sd Quattro H. There are no good offers for a Quattro H at the moment but I grabbed a brand new in box, with Sigma warranty sd Quattro, including a brand new, in box, with Sigma warranty 30mm f1.4 Art, at the recommended retail price from years ago. Some things hold their value I guess - and I can see why! There is NOTHING like it. I will at some point soon get the two f1.8 Art zoom lenses.
A friend recommended me this Camera recently because we found someone selling this on the Facebook market place. Happy to say that this is now in my possession and I cannot WAIT to take more photos with it and discover what it can do :D
Just purchased the H. Last new one in Canada! Looking forward receiving it. Now the lenses… will have to use the M42 till more money comes by! Thank you for your reviews and contagious enthusiasm! 🙏🏻
Great to see you back, Alexis. This was so interesting and wonderful to hear that you may have found your camera. Beautiful images BTW. Looking forward to seeing your film output from the Minolta. Take care
SA Mount is their SLR mount for many years, is their standard mount since their film SLR era as I know, and for digital era, it's used since SD9 (which also their Foveon X3 sensor DSLR), and that's why it's still chunky as their SA Mount lens design with SLR style in mind, so the chunky munt is due the focal flange that needed, to allow the lens able to focus properly. I still search it in Indonesia secondhand, but in here, as I know, I only able to buy it new via Indent purchase through Sigma distributor, and they will imported to here directly from Japan. also the 45MP resolution is actually an result of interpolation due unique demosaicing effect of Foveon X3 Quatrro, your sensor resolution is actually 25MP Blue+6MP Red & Green, this allowing your camera able to produce 45MP images in S-HI JPEG. But the main thing, all Foveon sensor is always sharper, and more detailed, as the sensor capture all color in single pixel location. If want to check the sensor true power, try check their Sigma SD1 & SD1 Merril images, which true native 15MPx3 Foveon X3, and able to capture really allot detail within that 15MP sensor.
I have the H and standard SD Quattro and ABSOLUTELY LOVE them... They are big, heavy, slow... but the IQ is stunning if you take your time. I use these to photograph my kids and some specialty engagement/bridal stuff when needed/requested. I love the ergos, if you stay at 800iso or below you are golden. It really is like shooting film. I love the deep rich color, limited DR vs newer Sony/Fuji/Etc. ... I typically run mine at 400iso, aperture priority and generally with 30mm F1.4 or the 105mm F1.4... I easily say that of all the bodies and lense and combos therein, the SD has produced some of my most favorite images. They really are like shooting film, just that you can offload a DNG right to your phone, edit and send vs dev time and scanning, etc.
I am a soon to be happy owner of a Sigma SD Quattro. 😁Thank you for passionately talking about the camera; (and Mattias Burling) 😊 the hood and the bad. I have loved film cameras so I like the way it works 😅.
Sigma holds it's own like my Pentax does, and these are the cameras that make YOU work. Looks like a beast like the Pentax K1mk2, and it inspires confidence learning how to compose.I would venture t o say the Sigma output reminds me of the Pentax look.
The comments and discussion on you channel are as interesting as the video. That’s rare and you can be commended for attractions such well informed viewers. Thanks for another great video.
I remember looking at the sigma website and drooling over this camera… and it got such poor reviews from the GAS communities I was like “phew, that was close: almost spent all my money.” This is sadly changing my mind
Just found this video looking for this camera now that I met it and I can't believe how much information you give and how clearly you do it. Thanks for this, thanks for the Q&A part and I'm getting one of this ASAP.
I recently received my 135mm 1.8 and 18-35mm 1.8 Sigma Art lenses and these are incredible on the Quattro H. The 135mm is unfortunately a bit slow to focus on the Quattro but when it nails the face or subject it looks like medium format. I also have the 135mm Art Nikon (found them second hand) and it works amazingly with the Nikon Z8 and FTZ2 adapter, way faster than on the Quattro. Results are great too…perfect for weddings and portraits at 1/4 of the price than the new Nikon 135mm S
I'm all in on Sigma primes(which I love) and shoot with the SDQ H. I have a Sony body for adapting vintage and contemporary lenses so no tears there. My world view is dependent on the Sigma producing the FF Foveon which is thankfully back in development. Sigma will convert my SA mounts to L mounts and all will be right with the world. My business is dependent on a Hasselblad H4D-60 (CCD sensor) but nothing gives me as much joy as shooting with the Foveon. Thanks for your review!
What a wonderful video. Literally the SD Quattro H saved my Holiday 2019 when I visited the States for the First Time and my Nikon gave up in the Desert. The Quattro, intended as the Camera for the Special Shots, took on the Job as a Workhorse. From Flagstaff /Arizona to San Francisco. Accordingly to the 18-35 it's a wonderful lens I bought for Nikon F Mount too and I won't miss it. A once in the lifetime lens. But I also would highly recommend the 24-70 2.8 on the Quattro H it's I very universal Lens you can do nearly anything with it. As you said.. California has a very harsh light, comparable like we have it in Europe. We figured that Arizona has wonderful light, very soft like a Giant Softbox. I can tell you from First Hand the Quattro loves Arizona 🙂
@@OneMonthTwoCameras If you're interested I may be able to post a few pictures done with the 24-70 before you invest a lot of Money. So you can make up your thoughts. Cheers and have a great Day 🙂
Came to it from the Canon ecosystem (film and digital). I have the Sd.Q.H. complete with the battery pack unit that adds ease of use and two more batteries to the one in body (and the superb flash). Built like a TANK. The ergonomics are SUPERB...if only the EVF could tilt up...😭 I use it only with full frame Sigma SA lenses, with selected M42 screw lenses (mainly Meyer/Pentagon 135/300/500mm monsters) and Tamron adaptall-2 lenses converted to M42 (80-200/2.8 LD, 200-500/5.6 LD, 180/2.5LD, 300/2.8 LD ,28-105/2.8 LD). I use a tripod in about 95% of my shots (on ISO 100-400 for color and 100-1600 in B&W) and I focus manually to get the ultimate sharpness. I treat it like a medium format camera. Always taking slow and secure steps...keeping an eye on the histogram, punching in for critical focus and always on 2sec shutter delay. The quality of the results blows me away time after time. In my photo club, people just recognize my photos by the sharpness, detail and color nuances, even when they are blowed up to 1.5X1.0 meters. 51 freaking megapixels in an APS-C sensor ( halfway between full frame and APS-C, 1.25X). And does a KILLER B&W and IR photography. This camera made me a FOVEON believer. Waiting eagerly for the full frame Sigma Foveon when it comes out.
That is so awesome! It's unquestionable one of the best and most unique cameras I've ever handled and I like you am super eager to see what Sigma comes out with next.
3:00 Someone may have already mentioned this, yes Quattro is mirrorless but its mount is still based on its SLR predecessor...that gap that you have there is needed because the flange distance is required for the SLR lenses to work/focus properly.
My H , is my favorite digital camera so far , not for anything more than the fantastic image quality , color rendering , and simple easy design . Quirky as hell . I was hoping that sigma was going to come out with a FF professional 100 meg wonder . For those people similar To me know , sharp sigma lenses paired with that updated camera would be a dream , image making wonder !
Pausing the video at the first 2 sample images.. *takes a deep breathe of relieve* FINALLY A REVIEW OF THIS CAMERA FROM A REAL PHOTOGRAPHER. Ive been looking for a review of the sigma cameras from a photographer whose picture style i can relate to. Thank you so much for this video!
I decided to give the SD-Quattro another chance and I'm so glad that I did. It was winter when I rented one, so there were hardly any nice colors to explore. No wonder I wasn't a fan my first go with it. But now, after taking it to the Botanical Gardens...My gosh, I can't believe I let myself miss out. I think the colors might be nicer than my DP Merrills. I already have a bunch of SA-mount lenses on my eBay wishlist lol. And WOW, that shutter sound...Like biting into a crisp, perfect apple. I never would have thought a camera shutter could be so satisfying, but there it is.
I love Sigmas! I love your technical approach to them, I love your images, they are stunning, and I love your weirdness (not meant in a bad sense), I think I fell in love with you. 😂
For infrared mode try going to CINE mode and setting the custom white balance all the the top left of the grid. Now you have digital Aerochrome without filters
Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed your review! Your enthusiasm is super contagious :). And so although I’ve been trying hard to convince myself I really don’t need more camera gear for the time being,after seeing your photos with the Sigma SD Quattro H and now watching your review, I just can’t help but add this camera to my wishlist🙈
Haha! I feel like you would really enjoy this camera but you do so much amazing work with your Em12 that I don't need to remind you it's the photographer and not the camera ;)
As you kmnow. I ave the dp1 quattro and can only confirm what you say. These cameras really shine when you take them to the minimum and go full manual. Heading to Scotland with it in the summer...if you want to try time lapse, don't use the 21:9 format, as it isn't usually supported. Use the 16:9 instead and you get fabulous results...
Sigma should do more cameras, all of them are unique and with alot of features that want in other cameras I hope that they make more L-mount camera now A new apsh camera would be awesome
so excited to see a lot more photos I still hadn't seen from our trip! I need to get this camera, really love all the images. You have taken some of my favorite photos of Terence and me. I hope you keep it and next time we meet up, you can show me how you edit photos. and yay! looking forward to the next camera :-)
I’ve been shooting with the SD Quattro for two years. It is quirky and I think it takes someone who has shot film to really love it. That said, and I know you don’t want to defile any of your Pentax lenses, I love finding cheap Pentax lenses and adapting them. A favorite is the Auto Chinon 50mm that I picked up for $10. It always hurts to know that the lens will never work on the Pentax again, but it’s fun to use with the camera. I also enjoy using older Sigma SA mount lenses, which you can usually pick up a lot cheaper than the newer Art lenses. A surprisingly crisp one was the 18-50 HSM OS DC. As you said, the auto focus system is not the best, and it’s even worse on some of the older lenses, so shooting manual focus is pretty much required. Glad I found your channel and glad to find some good new videos on the SD Quattro. I saw someone else mentioned a Samsung NX1. I don’t have an NX1, but an NX3000. I have a Pentax adapter for it, so using the old Pentax lenses on that one are fun. The Pentax and Sigma are about a 1mm difference, so the Sigma lenses don’t work with the adapter. Not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but the reason for the thick adapter (losing my words here) on the SD Quattro is because it uses the old Sigma SA mount, which was developed for SLR. Thus it requires the same distance from lens to sensor that the DSLR has. I’m sure there are so many people on here that can explain that better than I can.
Great video and runthrough! You got some really nice photos with that setup. Kudos. I use a dp1, dp2m, dp3q, sd14 and sd9. Currently my favorites are the dp3q and the sd9. I have started to use Affinity photo to process my quattro x3fs and it works flawlessly. It has a much more neutral starting point with less sharpening/contrast going on.
21:9(2.33), although close, is not the XPan ratio which is 65:24(2.70). 21:9 is not quite as wide. But, one could crop the 21:9 in post to exactly 65:24 and still have plenty of resolution for a print. The problem with printing this wide is that there is not a paper that ratio. So, your prints will have a lot of excess white paper, which you can trim, of course. I have this camera and love it. My favorite lens is the Sigma 24-105 Art.
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I was waiting like crazy for your opinion regarding this camera. I have the regular SD with the 35mm 1.4, and like you said, no other camera does it for me like this one. Cheers!
Regarding adapting Pentax lenses to the SA mount, quick tip: there's little need to sacrifice/destroy OEM lenses, instead you can dig into the Tamron adaptall lense lineup. Get an adaptall to pk adapter, modify that (quite easy and even reversible) and you can use an entire lens lineup on the SA mount in full manual and with stopped down metering. There is very little play between the lens and the camera (I get as much play from using Samyang lenses on Eos mount natively). Most adaptall lenses aren't insanely fast, but they are lovely things with beautiful warm colours.
Happy it sounds like you may have found your camera. You've inspired me to pick mine back up recently. Its use had dropped dramatically when [wait for it] I bought a used GFX50r. ;)
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Generally good. Love the resolution and color tweaks, however I have to admit the native lens sizes get old when moving about. I'm often caught in the pull of shooting experience vs. file output with cameras. The GFX is definitely on the latter side. Honestly, sdQH for me too. Then I get lazy and start focusing on the shooting experience and that leads to m-mount lenses on various bodies, an old used SL most recently. I tried to combine shooting those lenses with the GFX in 35mm mode with some success, but it's an expensive camera to throw away that many pixels. Looking forward to the FF l-mount Foveon as the lens options will really expand, including those. I did buy the 24-70 f/2.8 sa-mount zoom recently due to the reinterest you sparked. Curious to experiment with soon. Great review BTW.
@@ricblessing3400 Oh you'll have to tell me how you like that 24-70mm! That was the lens I was initially after and my interest hasn't gone away :) I've seen the work you're shooting with that SL and it's just wonderful. Love your IG feed and recommended it here in this videos show notes. Keep it coming.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Thank you for the kind words and the link in the description. After more time will let you know about that 24-70. I'm very curious to see how that 12-24 and 21:9 works out for you too. You certainly already have much better control over Foveon colors than I. Looking forward to your video on processing to see if I can pick up any tips! And am happy to see the next body is a film camera. If it was digital I thought it might suffer in comparison. 😉
I may or may not have searched the whole internet for either a Sigma DP Quattro or Quattro H after seeing your video... ended up on an MPB listing of a Quattro H (mistakenly listed as a regular Quattro, but the pictures don't lie) for 630€ and really couldn't resist. I'll have to download that Sigma Photo Pro thing after all it seems
Amazing video, i am so close to buying one now! Very much look forward to your processing video, as i am in love with your aesthetic, so film like a dreamy. I want to shoot like this!
I have been sooo looking forward to this review! I always say I’m more interested in the intangibles than the all the scientific things that are easily quantified and qualified on a spec sheet and this camera is such a great example of that. I’ve been so blown away by all of your images from this camera in the past few weeks. Also, on a super random note - I actually got a Minolta 7000i a few weeks ago based on your suggestion! It came with a 35-105mm lens for $24. I had to get a new 2CR5 battery for it, but other than that, it works great! Anyway, amazing job as always!
Oh I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the 7000i! I'm eager to dive into mine since it has all these fun data cards which I actually bought and want to see what they can do. I think they're mostly gimmicky but still.... Mine was my father's camera so it's particularly special and has a fun story behind it. The fact these Minoltas - bodies and lenses - are still so under the radar is fantastic. You can get them for a song and they can be really good. Which 35-105 do you have? I first got the kit by accident and then found a beer can for cheap and adore it (allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_481.html#prettyPhoto). The only quibble I have is the close focusing distance is like rangefinder long, but it at least can flip into macro.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Oh wow, I didn’t realize there was a beer can version. I got the kit version. But yeah, I’m super excited ‘cause I was sixteen back when this came out in 1988. I had a Canon AE1 with manual focus lenses. The 7000i seemed so futuristic at the time. I can’t wait to see your video!
@@steve_heise if you happen upon the beer an for cheap, snag it. I got mine for $20 because it had a big scratch on the front of the lens and a dented filter thread but the IQ holds up in every way. Excited to spend the next two weeks with it!
hey I just wanted to say I love your channel. you make me want to go out and take pictures. I actually bought a camera off of your online shop and it arrived nice and safe. I could tell you put a lot of love and effort into packing the camera nicely in the shipping box. Thank you!
Glad you finally found your ultimate camera! That 21:9 is awesome~ never seen anywhere mentioned on the internet as I was doing a little research for a ‘digital Xpan’.. SDQuattro was never on the list. Read somewhere that the camera mount can be altered to adapt canon lenses.. but I think you already have quite a handful of lens to play with for now :)
Ali i just saw this video because of the 21x9 pano crop option. Was wondering which focal length is your fav in pano terms and which Sigma lens you prefer for pano? Wish my DP2M had pano or at least the 24 grid option. I agree with the digital look. Fuji X Trans sensor has that problem with their own lenses. The GFX series not so much with the Bayer sensor. Have you tried Tiffens Pro Black Mist 1/4 filter?
Ok, I've always been intrigued by the sigma cameras and your two videos (followed by some RUclips trawling) have tipped me into buying a quattro (unfortunately not a H but the quattro will be enough). I'm super excited, just waiting now 😃
I'll have to check that out. Do you find it messes with the color at all using vintage glass? I have an M42 Pentax lens that I usually love but didn't feel played terribly well with the Quattro.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras My understanding is that the coating on the SMC lenses interacts poorly with the sensor at some point to give a cast (often greenish). I haven't directl y experienced it though...
Thanks for the review, I am excited about this camera, it is still available in the used market at reasonable price. I know this is a slow camera, not only in the AF but also writing time to memory card. I wonder if you have tried at different resolution settings, the writing time of JPG and DNG, since the camera has very high resolution, I believe we can improve the writing speed in the expense of some resolution.
The Quattro S photos just look like 6x7 medium format film without the scanning issue. The only negative point is the slow AF acquisition, tricky for kids portraits. But when it’s on focus, the files are incredible gorgeous. I will never ever sell these cameras. I own 2x Quattro H cameras and the DP Quattros as well. They basically replaced my retired 6x7 Pentax and 6x6 Mamiya that I still enjoy to shoot from time to times. Even my Fuji GX680iii doesn’t match it 😅
Yay congratulations you bought one! Wow you have mastered the SDQ very quickly and you have a great lineup of lenses to! I have the same problem with the front dial sometimes slipping haha. If you want to increase the ergonomics and battery life I strongly suggest the battery grip it's amazing. I have the non H version with the 18-35 + 50-100 + the monster 120-300 F2.8. I have my auto iso set to max 400 at normal shutter speed. Works well for those moment you just want to get the shot in lower light. As for correct skin tones I select the correct WB and reduce the crisp setting in SPP to min to reduce the micro contrast and to further smooth the skin I select portrait. I shoot standard colour mode 95% of the time. Do you have a F stop preference?? Well done on a great vid it's one of the best about the SD. 😊
Thank you so much and wow, I can only imagine what that 120-300 is like :P I do the same in SPP for my portrait workflow bringing the crisp all the way down but I do find the shadows and oranges can get a little, I don't know how to say, chalky? It's an interesting thing but I find I can then take the tiffs to Lightroom and just finish off any HSL type adjustments to get it closer to what I like. With the 18-35 I'm usually shooting between 1.8 and 8 to avoid any diffraction.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras The Sigma photo pro series on youtube by Mark James Ford is well worth the watch. The 120-300 is like the 50-100 on steroids with image stabilization and over double the weight. I had tennis elbow lifting it for the first few weeks but now I'm good to go:) I find all three lenses have a sweet spot for sharpness above F5.6 and the 50-100 is faster at focusing than the 18-35 for some strange reason. Have you got the Auto iso shutter speed setting in the ISO menu?
I reckon those harsh skin tones could be fixed with a leaded glass zeiss lens - rumour is that sigma is prototyping a full frame foveon sensor this year and then we may get a leica mount! Also I hope they will bring back the merril sensor when they do this as the merril apparently was a proper foveon sensor and the quattro series took a shortcut - I'm not sure how but you can look it up.
Welcome back! Great video and love the enthusiasm as always. This for me has too much against it to even try fur the price. Size being a major one. Sigma do love their fat boi lenses don’t they. They are great tho. My dream would be a new APSC foveon camera in either L or M mount (imagine a new Leica CL type body with that sensor and evf only).
Great work Alex. I really enjoyed this video, the images of this camera are insane. I hope one day I can buy one. I'm counting the days for the video about your father's camera. Will you publish the video of your workflow before?
Thank you! Yes, I'm planning to post the workflow video first, hopefully next week, and then the Minolta 7000i about a week and a half later. Excited to be shooting some more film again!
You're right about the Merrill look being quite harsh - sometimes too gritty for portraiture. It's very unflattering as it shows every wrinkle and pore. BUT it's great for certain subjects - street portraits of heavily tattooed folks, old people, pets, and other subjects where the details and microcontrast really make the image!
those sample pictures are awesome, I assume they are not SOOC. Btw, the reason for the mount being so far forward is that the lenses were made for their dslr line (with a mirror like the SD merrill for example)
When I was younger I started out on film photography. Most of the images were okay. During that time when I first found out about digital photography I thought digital photography was terrible since the quality was not there in the late 1990’s. During the early 2000’s period when my family bought their first digital camera in the 2000’s I bought a slr film camera. Some of the pictures that I took were good, but most were okay. Later on I started to use a digital camera. I think that buying a Mac in the early 2000’s and finding out that digital photography is not as slow and the image quality improved. Most of the pictures that I have that my family took before I was born are are okay. If the film camera is really good it can take images but nowadays I can take images on a digital camera that are almost as good as a really good film camera but I can do so more consistently.
Yes there are definitely advantages to digital. It's an interesting thing because there is the technical side but there is also the emotional side and I find I take different pictures with both film and digital.
I love my SD Quattro H. I wish there was more support for editing, but as clunky and as basic as it can be Sigma Photo Pro it does an adequate job. I do love the infrared aspect, can be tricky editing but if I'm feeling stale for ideas off comes the filter for an experimental day. If I want outstanding blank and white often the infrared is the way to go. Skin tones can be a challenge if the light is tricky. Hence I tend to settle for custom white balance. And when it comes to editing I might zoom in to the white of the eye and click there for correcting any colour issues, seems to help. For a camera with a lack of features compared to most competitors, the different aspect ratios is a real winner. It intrigues me what a foveon full frame could do, but I wonder it it will ever happen. I love the film like / lack of digital feel to the files, but it seems to be a technology that has struggled with each improvement always being behind in features. It seems to be a technology that is very power hungry. It's never been a camera for everyone. I've noticed though that even non photographers recognise that is a different quality to the finished image which I found surprising, thinking it might just be me, or in my head.
That's super interesting. After all the cameras I've shot, it is still the one that inspires me the most and definitely, that output is unlike anything else. Compelling that even a non photog can see it.
Silly question... but if you never shoot in the full resoution of the camera, why didn't you get the Aps-c version? It's cheaper and match the lenses better. Nice video though. I am really curious to give the camera a go. I like the colors and the look of the images.
Im a published photographer and shot with the SD Quattro and Quattro H since they were both released. Undoubtedly the SD Quattro was one of the most frustrating cameras I had ever shot with. The build quality of the cameras was very good, felt well built like their Art lenses. When paired with the 18-35mm Art lens and conditions were absolutely perfect, both cameras could produce stunning images! Other times conditions could be very similar and when viewing the images in photoshop or Lightroom and zoomed in on at 100%, the photos would all look like an oversharpened mess, this was due to the micro contrast in the Foveon sensor. It was extremely frustrating, I sell big gallery prints of my work and need consistent results. Sigma has also discontinued the H and I think the Quattro is next, also all the added accessories are discontinued as well. I’ve since switched over to the Fuji GFX medium format system and just blown away at the amount of detail in my images.. I really tried with Foveon, but in the end, it just ended up too frustrating an experience.
Hi Gino, I had the same experience with my SD. I have found the default Sigma photo Pro (for raw files) settings way high in micro contrast and sharpening levels need to be dropped. Once set correctly the camera can produce very natural looking images.
@@imac3355 Hey thanks for the reply. Yes I tried all that.. dropped the sharpness way down and still the images looked over sharpened. Like I said, it was odd.. sometimes in perfect conditions, the images came out really beautiful, not looking over sharp at all and then other times in very similar conditions, the images would come out looking way over sharp, even with the sharpness turned all the way down. Honestly I’m very happy I switched to the Fuji GFX 50r. The GFX produces beautiful medium format images. I’m also buying the GFX 100s. I can say I’m not missing the frustration of the SD Quattro…lol
I agree with you on the gfx 50, I was interested in it because of the medium format sensor, dynamic range and image quality. but being honest the photos straight out of my d700 look better than most gfx images I've seen. it doesn't do it for me either. which I know is subjective. but not worth the money to me
The problem is that the GFX doesn’t integrate a special sensor : it’s a 12 year old CMOS sensor, same generation as the D700 without the same color science I guess. It’s the same sensor that was used on the Pentax 645Z and on the Leica S2 mark II. On the other hand, the Pentax 645D and Leica S2 mark Had 44x33cm CCD sensors with very nice skin tone and overall color output. CCD files look closer to FOVEON and are pretty easy to post process without too much editing.
Hi! How do you handle low light situations? (night market, sunrise/sunset). How to know which lens has an SA mount? (looks like the bulk of the 2nd hand lenses are Canon and Nikon mount). Any option to use Canon EF with an adaptor? Thank you!
So I own 5 of these, have done since about 2018, 4 with their own dedicated prime lenses. [14, 24, 35, 50] the 5th shares a 70mm Macro & an 85mm. I also own 20 batteries.... they must be the most power hungry camera on the planet....but hey, nothings perfect ! [I do astro with the 14mm, and for this I've set up a buck {DC to DC device} that allows me to run the camera off an electric bike battery for days on end... !! :) Also good for time lapse ] In my humble opinion they are a thinking photographers camera, not a sophisticated point and shoot. [I own two of those, both Nikon's, a D6 and a Z9]. I tend to see a lot with the Sigma as I nearly always stop and assess a scene prior to shooting it, it makes photography a relaxing pass time for me. I never use auto on the SD H, it's manual all the way! I primarily shoot landscape, still life and wildflowers with them. I always shoot at 1/3 of a stop underexposed. I looked at your shots and I'd say don't be scared to push hard to the left on the histogram, I believe you'll be amazed at what you can recover ! [Yes :), I know YT is not the most flattering platform...] The reason for the mount is it's a throwback from Sigma's film cameras. The SA mount goes way back when, and this allows them to be used on all the Sigma cameras. The older lenses don't resolve particularly well on the newer camera's, but if you're after a retro look, the older lenses deliver it and are very cheap nowadays. I have 7 old lenses in a drawer and I'm loathed to get rid of them...... you just never know !!! There was talk by Sigma of a SA to L mount adapter, but I don't know if it ever eventuated. I don't tend to use super fine, I generally shoot in brackets of 3. I was an early adopter of Photmatix Pro [It hit the market in ~2003 / 4 from memory] and used it for HDR back before HDR was the cool thing on the block. Of course, now HDR is everywhere. If you're able to afford it, look at investing in a set of professional ND filters, the Sigma sensor absolutely loves them. [I use NISI Pro 150 x 150mm and a truckload of step up rings, but there are others on the market, just make sure they are optical glass and not plastic] My peers simply don't understand my irritating willingness to lug kilo's and kilo's of gear around with me, the're always harping on about how I could do it lighter and faster.... but they seem to like my pics....funny that eh??? ON1 2019 opens .XF3 files, however, later versions won't which is irritating as I'm heavily invested, time wise. Used it since 2016. I enjoyed your delivery and I'll keep an eye on your channel. Enjoy. Al.
Hi, coming from medium format film, I also fell in love with the Sigma Quattro system : I first purchased the Sigma DP Quattro 0-1-2-3 second hand and brought them in holidays in Grèce to compare them with my 6x7 and Fuji 6x17 camera and guess what : the colors, textures and details just look extremely similar to slide film or Kodak Ektar film (depending on the way the raw file is post processed) I then found a good deal for the Quattro H and 2 prime lenses at Keh and finally also ended up purchasing the 12-24mm F4 and 24-70mm F2.8 and 85mm 1.4 sa Art lens at Adorama for half the price. All these lenses are great but the 50mm 1.4 art and 12-24mm are just unbelievable great ! I didn’t know it was compatible with the 18-35mm ? Did you try any other APSC lenses with it ?
Now THAT is a killer collection! The 18-35 and 50-100 are the only lenses I have that are APSC but again, they make me feel there is no their lens I need (same for the 12-24 now :))
@@OneMonthTwoCameras it’s a great lens too, the range is of course very useful, but the overall IQ is not on par with the 18-35mm 1.8 or prime lenses. The distortion on the 24-70mm is pretty well controlled but the bokeh isn’t as smooth as on the prime lenses and it needs to be stopped at F4 at least for better overall IQ. It’s very good for travel though. Another good option to consider for travel is the 24-105mm. It came for « free » with my second Quattro H body (purchased second hand as backup) and is a nice option to consider. Second hand prices are around 350-400$ for this lens. Did I forgot to mention : the 20mm and 24mm Art primes are stellar too ! Coming from the Bronica 6-7 Fuji G680 and Fuji 617 I aslo feel that the Quattro H is like a portable digital medium format system with infinite film ! ;) Have a look at the second hand we stores like KEH and Adorama they sell like new lenses for bargain prices ! My favorite one would be the 50mm 1.4 ART (it’s better then the 35mm and becomes a 60mm on the Quattro H)
Thank you! I felt the video was too long as it was so I just tried to encourage people going to my DP2Q review for a bit more on the sensor but man, these cameras are a real treat.
I love my Foveon, I prefer the Merrills (I have a Sigma DP2 Merrill presently) myself, they just have a gritty look compared to the later sensors - even if I need to carry around 15 different batteries for a walk with it. Foveon images just look a bit different, in both color and black and white. The Merrills in particular just freak out if you go over ISO 100, lest you shoot only in black and white and manipulate the blue channel. It's a bit like shooting slide film in methodology.
The DP2M is a brilliant camera. I scored one from a guy who had no idea what he was selling so I suuuuuuper lucked out and just love how incredibly powerful it is and still relatively pocketable. Kind of insane really.
I own all three DP Merrill cameras, DP1/2/3M and I love them all, all produce exceptional photos, the DP2 is my favorite but for portrait I use the DP3M. I used to own a SD Quattro with the 50-100 f/1.8 but I sold that kit in favor of the must more expensive GFX 50S II. I found the SD Quattro kit extremely heavy, no doubt this camera is built like a tank, nothing comes close, and the colors are very film like, more than the Merrill which is punchier.
It's a beast indeed! I love it so much that I'm willing to bear the burden but wish they could put this sensor in a smaller less robust form factor. My DP series bridge the gap for now.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras They do, the DP Quattro series have the same sensor, but alas not the APS-H version. I've seen output from both APS-C And APS-H and I don't see any difference from the tonality or film-like colors mood/colors. The APS-H simply allows larger prints without losing much resolution. I have printed 13x19 photos from the DPM cameras and the resolution and colors are simply stunning.
Sigma also makes a 18-50mm for APS-C. Any thoughts on that one vs the 18-35mm that you have? Thx for your channel; it has more on Sigmas than anything out there.
Thanks Jack. I unfortunately can't comment on the 18-50mm at the moment but the 18-35mm is an absolute stunner. I'll try and get my hands on the 18-50mm to compare.
ahhhh that shutter makes me wanna drop everything and buy this right now, i have a sony a7rii right now and ive honestly not really been feeling it, i almost exclusively shoot film and really want to bring that experience to digital, its been making me think about getting something like this or an xpro3 ah...
I’ve though about buying one of these a few times but the limited eco system for lenses is a the major limitation that keeping me from one. If it came down in price i might consider it. But for now I’ll just dream. 😂
As an SDQH owner myself it's a real pleasure to encounter a sensible appraisal of the camera on You Tube - they're as uncommon as the camera itself. I was attracted by your 'digital roll of film' descriptor in the title - I've always regarded my SDQH as a 'digital transparency film' camera, so think you're on the money with your title.
The companion piece you have on workflow is a gem too, so thanks for that - very useful.
I hope you shoot yours as an IR camera; I've used mine as such often and it's unique in being able to switch back and forth in seconds while out in the field. I went out configured for IR today but the sun disappeared. Hot mirror popped back in, I was back shooting conventionally within moments. I love it and like you hope Sigma do a full frame jobbie.
Wish you and yours well going forwards - great channel!
Ahhh my people! Thanks so much for dropping a comment and I'm so glad to hear of another photographer who loves this system as much as I do. I really need to use the IR capability which I shockingly STILL haven't tried. So thank you for the reminder!!
Fellow owner of an SDQ here! I've been neglecting mine and this video has inspired me to using it again. I took some great photos of the Grand Canyon the last time is took it for a spin.
this makes me really happy. finally a new video on youtube about the sigma sd quattro!"
Dear omtc, I just found a demo Quattro H. It took the shop owner ages to find it in his basement and as he was taking my money he said how happy he was to finally get rid of this camera! But how happy I am to have it 🙂 Photo Pro 6 is...quaint! Thanks for the video.
I've been shooting with Sigma cameras for years, particularly the Merrill generation, which is arguably the best Sigma have ever produced. The DP2 Merrill in particular, has the most impressive tonality and color detail that I've ever seen from a camera, and I also use a Fuji GFX on the regular. The Foveon sensors are not the best for portraits or skin, however they are the closest I've seen that a digital sensor has come to replicating the look of film.
Could not agree with you more. I lucked into a DP2M and can't believe how awesome it is, particularly with its small form factor.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras have both dp1m and dp2m sine 2011.. totally crashed, half destroyed, evnen the lcd has lost ot's plastic protection and have deep black spots, but still works perfectly. I'm just in love with the dp1m.. try to find another one, but it's an unicorn now
@@babar69110 the best cameras ❤️
Great video! Since 2014 Sigma dp3m is my main camera! I use it for landscape, street and fine art photography! Critical noises in low light are solved by VPS mode! The camera has such high detail that it requires the very best landscape carbon tripods or wooden Berlebach level tripods! I also want to note that the highest color accuracy I had for a couple of years was limited to light filters of famous brands ... Now I see what it is capable of with Rodenstock! Happy shooting everyone! Sincerely, Foveonych from Saint Petersburg!
@@foveonyc hi there, can you please explain the VPS mode and how Rodenstock makes a difference?
Great video! I was a Mamiya 7II person until I got my DP2M in 2014 for a few bucks... I was so amazed by it that I quickly got the DP1M and DP3M. Since then these three cameras are what I bring on my trips. Coming from film all the classic drawbacks are nothing... One thing not many people realize about sigma foveons, is that these cameras were designed to portray the beauty of Japanese still life under Japanese lighting... That is lots of rainy days and hazy sun, no harsh light conditions, lots of greens and strong reds... When using these cameras there you realize about all these things... I always shoot 100ISO sunlight WB, It's almost like shooting Velvia. I wish they did something smaller than the SDQ's... It's too big for me!
Keep up with the great job!
Wow that is so cool to learn! I just adore this camera but like you, wish it was just smaller but still capable of interchangeable lenses.
Woah I just sold my Mamiya 7ii due to the high rise of film costs. Which of the three do you think comes the closest to the film look? Thanks
@@ratinthehat_ the three have the same sensor so the look is quite the same. The Dp2 Merrill field of view is the closest to the standard 80mm lens in the Mamiya 7 range. My advice is starting with the Dp2M is the most versatile.
I mainly use film and the thing that drew me to these cameras is the process. They are not the easiest cameras to use and they truly do make you slow down, kinda similar to film manual film cameras. The colours, man the colours! Cheers for reminding me what a truly marvellous camera these are.
Thank you and I couldn't agree with you more :)
Hi Ali, I keep watching this video over and over... and I now own an SD Quattro H with 18-35mm because of it! I like your style :)
Oh wow Graham! I hope you enjoy your Quattro H! Such a unique and for me wonderful camera and experience.
I totally agree - I have a SD Quattro that I love, despite the lack of dynamic range (made better with SFD mode, though still subjects only). My investment in Sigma lenses maintains value with the Sigma fp with the MC-21 adapter - though those big lenses make the fp a big and heavy camera. Your SA-mount lenses WILL work (in DC-crop mode if they're DC lenses) with full automation with the MC-21. The fp is the opposite in having massive dynamic range, great video and small size. Both quirky, both great, both hard to recommend to others but easy to love.
-Tom
Wow this is awesome! Thanks for sharing and good to know!
I'm so glad that you got around to reviewing this camera knowing how much you love the panoramic aspect ratio ... An Xpan on the "cheap".
I love it!
After enjoying a dp0 Quattro for a while now (THAT lens!!!), and finally having figured out how to get consistently great results from my dp2 Merrill, I had the chance to shoot the same scene with a 5Ds R and L glass versus the dp2 Merrill. The dp2 Merrill blew the 5Ds R out of the water (Quite literally! The scene I photographed was an emerging Skunk Cabbage with a nice spotlight of natural light on it) - it was brutal realizing a 15MP camera blows a 50.6MP camera away in terms of sharpness, detail, color. The Merrill file showed a teeny, tiny spider hanging on a thread in between plant stems that was so small, I couldn't even see it with the naked eye. Both cameras rendered the spider, but the 5Ds R in spite of its higher pixel count does not resolve enough details on the animal to show it as what it is, on the Merrill file, the spider is recognizable as a spider.
I knew then that I need to invest into something like an sd Quattro or sd Quattro H. There are no good offers for a Quattro H at the moment but I grabbed a brand new in box, with Sigma warranty sd Quattro, including a brand new, in box, with Sigma warranty 30mm f1.4 Art, at the recommended retail price from years ago. Some things hold their value I guess - and I can see why! There is NOTHING like it. I will at some point soon get the two f1.8 Art zoom lenses.
A friend recommended me this Camera recently because we found someone selling this on the Facebook market place. Happy to say that this is now in my possession and I cannot WAIT to take more photos with it and discover what it can do :D
Enjoy!
Just purchased the H. Last new one in Canada! Looking forward receiving it. Now the lenses… will have to use the M42 till more money comes by! Thank you for your reviews and contagious enthusiasm! 🙏🏻
Ohmygoodness a NEW H? Lucky you! Can't wait to hear and see what you do with it!
Great to see you back, Alexis. This was so interesting and wonderful to hear that you may have found your camera. Beautiful images BTW. Looking forward to seeing your film output from the Minolta. Take care
Thank you Cliff! It's great to be here :)
SA Mount is their SLR mount for many years, is their standard mount since their film SLR era as I know, and for digital era, it's used since SD9 (which also their Foveon X3 sensor DSLR), and that's why it's still chunky as their SA Mount lens design with SLR style in mind, so the chunky munt is due the focal flange that needed, to allow the lens able to focus properly. I still search it in Indonesia secondhand, but in here, as I know, I only able to buy it new via Indent purchase through Sigma distributor, and they will imported to here directly from Japan.
also the 45MP resolution is actually an result of interpolation due unique demosaicing effect of Foveon X3 Quatrro, your sensor resolution is actually 25MP Blue+6MP Red & Green, this allowing your camera able to produce 45MP images in S-HI JPEG. But the main thing, all Foveon sensor is always sharper, and more detailed, as the sensor capture all color in single pixel location. If want to check the sensor true power, try check their Sigma SD1 & SD1 Merril images, which true native 15MPx3 Foveon X3, and able to capture really allot detail within that 15MP sensor.
I have the H and standard SD Quattro and ABSOLUTELY LOVE them... They are big, heavy, slow... but the IQ is stunning if you take your time. I use these to photograph my kids and some specialty engagement/bridal stuff when needed/requested.
I love the ergos, if you stay at 800iso or below you are golden. It really is like shooting film. I love the deep rich color, limited DR vs newer Sony/Fuji/Etc. ... I typically run mine at 400iso, aperture priority and generally with 30mm F1.4 or the 105mm F1.4... I easily say that of all the bodies and lense and combos therein, the SD has produced some of my most favorite images. They really are like shooting film, just that you can offload a DNG right to your phone, edit and send vs dev time and scanning, etc.
I so echo your sentiments. Nothing quite like these amazing cameras.
I am a soon to be happy owner of a Sigma SD Quattro. 😁Thank you for passionately talking about the camera; (and Mattias Burling) 😊 the hood and the bad. I have loved film cameras so I like the way it works 😅.
Sigma holds it's own like my Pentax does, and these are the cameras that make YOU work. Looks like a beast like the Pentax K1mk2, and it inspires confidence learning how to compose.I would venture t o say the Sigma output reminds me of the Pentax look.
Two brands close to my heart
The comments and discussion on you channel are as interesting as the video. That’s rare and you can be commended for attractions such well informed viewers. Thanks for another great video.
I couldn’t agree more! The dialogue and tips and community are what make this so special and why I continue to make videos ❤️
i love your channel...pure heart for photography, i'm glad you exist...
Thank you so much 😀 You just made my day
I got non-H version, & just love it. Thank you for making me fall in love with it all over again. Also really appreciate the editing vid.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
I remember looking at the sigma website and drooling over this camera… and it got such poor reviews from the GAS communities I was like “phew, that was close: almost spent all my money.” This is sadly changing my mind
I have the standard sd quattro and love it. I’m going to get the H.
Just found this video looking for this camera now that I met it and I can't believe how much information you give and how clearly you do it. Thanks for this, thanks for the Q&A part and I'm getting one of this ASAP.
I recently received my 135mm 1.8 and 18-35mm 1.8 Sigma Art lenses and these are incredible on the Quattro H. The 135mm is unfortunately a bit slow to focus on the Quattro but when it nails the face or subject it looks like medium format.
I also have the 135mm Art Nikon (found them second hand) and it works amazingly with the Nikon Z8 and FTZ2 adapter, way faster than on the Quattro. Results are great too…perfect for weddings and portraits at 1/4 of the price than the new Nikon 135mm S
I'm all in on Sigma primes(which I love) and shoot with the SDQ H. I have a Sony body for adapting vintage and contemporary lenses so no tears there. My world view is dependent on the Sigma producing the FF Foveon which is thankfully back in development. Sigma will convert my SA mounts to L mounts and all will be right with the world. My business is dependent on a Hasselblad H4D-60 (CCD sensor) but nothing gives me as much joy as shooting with the Foveon. Thanks for your review!
Love that. Thanks for watching!
What a wonderful video. Literally the SD Quattro H saved my Holiday 2019 when I visited the States for the First Time and my Nikon gave up in the Desert. The Quattro, intended as the Camera for the Special Shots, took on the Job as a Workhorse. From Flagstaff /Arizona to San Francisco.
Accordingly to the 18-35 it's a wonderful lens I bought for Nikon F Mount too and I won't miss it. A once in the lifetime lens.
But I also would highly recommend the 24-70 2.8 on the Quattro H it's I very universal Lens you can do nearly anything with it.
As you said.. California has a very harsh light, comparable like we have it in Europe. We figured that Arizona has wonderful light, very soft like a Giant Softbox. I can tell you from First Hand the Quattro loves Arizona 🙂
Thank you so much for the comment! I have been really eager to try that 24-70mm. You may have convinced me to take the plunge.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras If you're interested I may be able to post a few pictures done with the 24-70 before you invest a lot of Money. So you can make up your thoughts. Cheers and have a great Day 🙂
@@berndhelber8982 that would be unbelievably helpful. I’d so appreciate it!
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Before I miss it.... hopefully it might be helpful to you.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras I'm kind a wondered did RUclips remove the link? 😞
Came to it from the Canon ecosystem (film and digital). I have the Sd.Q.H. complete with the battery pack unit that adds ease of use and two more batteries to the one in body (and the superb flash). Built like a TANK. The ergonomics are SUPERB...if only the EVF could tilt up...😭 I use it only with full frame Sigma SA lenses, with selected M42 screw lenses (mainly Meyer/Pentagon 135/300/500mm monsters) and Tamron adaptall-2 lenses converted to M42 (80-200/2.8 LD, 200-500/5.6 LD, 180/2.5LD, 300/2.8 LD ,28-105/2.8 LD). I use a tripod in about 95% of my shots (on ISO 100-400 for color and 100-1600 in B&W) and I focus manually to get the ultimate sharpness. I treat it like a medium format camera. Always taking slow and secure steps...keeping an eye on the histogram, punching in for critical focus and always on 2sec shutter delay. The quality of the results blows me away time after time. In my photo club, people just recognize my photos by the sharpness, detail and color nuances, even when they are blowed up to 1.5X1.0 meters. 51 freaking megapixels in an APS-C sensor ( halfway between full frame and APS-C, 1.25X). And does a KILLER B&W and IR photography. This camera made me a FOVEON believer. Waiting eagerly for the full frame Sigma Foveon when it comes out.
That is so awesome! It's unquestionable one of the best and most unique cameras I've ever handled and I like you am super eager to see what Sigma comes out with next.
3:00 Someone may have already mentioned this, yes Quattro is mirrorless but its mount is still based on its SLR predecessor...that gap that you have there is needed because the flange distance is required for the SLR lenses to work/focus properly.
Yes thank you Dexter! Someone schooled me and it all makes sense now :)
The jpeg file blew my mind. The foveon sensor is my new favorite followed by CCD! Such a fun camera to take photos with!
Foveon for the win!
Sigma makes an SA to L adapter so you could throw those on your Leica SL in crop mode (or get a Leica CL) if you want high ISO capability, etc.
I thought I could but apparently it doesn’t work with the original SL 😭
My H , is my favorite digital camera so far , not for anything more than the fantastic image quality , color rendering , and simple easy design .
Quirky as hell . I was hoping that sigma was going to come out with a FF professional 100 meg wonder . For those people similar
To me know , sharp sigma lenses paired with that updated camera would be a dream , image making wonder !
Pausing the video at the first 2 sample images.. *takes a deep breathe of relieve* FINALLY A REVIEW OF THIS CAMERA FROM A REAL PHOTOGRAPHER. Ive been looking for a review of the sigma cameras from a photographer whose picture style i can relate to. Thank you so much for this video!
Video has ended and I am happily now subbed!
Oh my goodness Brandon thank you so much! So glad to have likeminded (or like-eyed?) friends out there :)
I decided to give the SD-Quattro another chance and I'm so glad that I did. It was winter when I rented one, so there were hardly any nice colors to explore. No wonder I wasn't a fan my first go with it. But now, after taking it to the Botanical Gardens...My gosh, I can't believe I let myself miss out. I think the colors might be nicer than my DP Merrills. I already have a bunch of SA-mount lenses on my eBay wishlist lol. And WOW, that shutter sound...Like biting into a crisp, perfect apple. I never would have thought a camera shutter could be so satisfying, but there it is.
I love Sigmas! I love your technical approach to them, I love your images, they are stunning, and I love your weirdness (not meant in a bad sense), I think I fell in love with you. 😂
For infrared mode try going to CINE mode and setting the custom white balance all the the top left of the grid. Now you have digital Aerochrome without filters
WHOAAAAA!!! Mind blown. Thank you for the hot tip; excited to try this!
Thanks man!:)
Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed your review! Your enthusiasm is super contagious :). And so although I’ve been trying hard to convince myself I really don’t need more camera gear for the time being,after seeing your photos with the Sigma SD Quattro H and now watching your review, I just can’t help but add this camera to my wishlist🙈
Haha! I feel like you would really enjoy this camera but you do so much amazing work with your Em12 that I don't need to remind you it's the photographer and not the camera ;)
As you kmnow. I ave the dp1 quattro and can only confirm what you say. These cameras really shine when you take them to the minimum and go full manual. Heading to Scotland with it in the summer...if you want to try time lapse, don't use the 21:9 format, as it isn't usually supported. Use the 16:9 instead and you get fabulous results...
Great tip thank you! I dream of following in your footsteps and bringing mine to Scotland some day :)
Sigma should do more cameras, all of them are unique and with alot of features that want in other cameras
I hope that they make more L-mount camera now
A new apsh camera would be awesome
I really hope they keep it coming. I have my doubts but fingers crossed.
There's a new one announced as of today. Full frame Foveon 60 MP
@@Neopulse00 omg omg omg! Best news ever!!!
so excited to see a lot more photos I still hadn't seen from our trip! I need to get this camera, really love all the images. You have taken some of my favorite photos of Terence and me. I hope you keep it and next time we meet up, you can show me how you edit photos. and yay! looking forward to the next camera :-)
I promise you I will still have it for our next hang. This is a rare one I don't anticipate I'll ever sell :)
You were right about wanting the camera more after your review. A lot of your examples actually look like Kodak Ektar 100 to my eyes.
Agreed. I see this too
Would be nice to get Sigma FP review. You are inspiring and beautiful always.
I’ve been shooting with the SD Quattro for two years. It is quirky and I think it takes someone who has shot film to really love it. That said, and I know you don’t want to defile any of your Pentax lenses, I love finding cheap Pentax lenses and adapting them. A favorite is the Auto Chinon 50mm that I picked up for $10. It always hurts to know that the lens will never work on the Pentax again, but it’s fun to use with the camera. I also enjoy using older Sigma SA mount lenses, which you can usually pick up a lot cheaper than the newer Art lenses. A surprisingly crisp one was the 18-50 HSM OS DC. As you said, the auto focus system is not the best, and it’s even worse on some of the older lenses, so shooting manual focus is pretty much required. Glad I found your channel and glad to find some good new videos on the SD Quattro.
I saw someone else mentioned a Samsung NX1. I don’t have an NX1, but an NX3000. I have a Pentax adapter for it, so using the old Pentax lenses on that one are fun. The Pentax and Sigma are about a 1mm difference, so the Sigma lenses don’t work with the adapter.
Not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but the reason for the thick adapter (losing my words here) on the SD Quattro is because it uses the old Sigma SA mount, which was developed for SLR. Thus it requires the same distance from lens to sensor that the DSLR has. I’m sure there are so many people on here that can explain that better than I can.
What does "defile" mean?
Great video and runthrough! You got some really nice photos with that setup. Kudos.
I use a dp1, dp2m, dp3q, sd14 and sd9. Currently my favorites are the dp3q and the sd9. I have started to use Affinity photo to process my quattro x3fs and it works flawlessly. It has a much more neutral starting point with less sharpening/contrast going on.
Oooooo I will have to try my X3Fs with Affinity as well. I heard it was compatible but haven't tried it yet.
I love the images quality. Has the look of film without the processing. I have one coming in a few days
Good for you! I absolutely love it as well.
21:9(2.33), although close, is not the XPan ratio which is 65:24(2.70). 21:9 is not quite as wide. But, one could crop the 21:9 in post to exactly 65:24 and still have plenty of resolution for a print. The problem with printing this wide is that there is not a paper that ratio. So, your prints will have a lot of excess white paper, which you can trim, of course. I have this camera and love it. My favorite lens is the Sigma 24-105 Art.
I was waiting like crazy for your opinion regarding this camera. I have the regular SD with the 35mm 1.4, and like you said, no other camera does it for me like this one. Cheers!
Glad to hear I'm not alone!! :)
29:20 it's so cute your daughter draws lots your father's camera
Very excited for the follow up video discussing workflow!
And oh my gosh I can’t believe I won the raffle! So excited to play with another very unique digicam!
Yay!! Sending you the camera this week!
Wow i think im sold
Regarding adapting Pentax lenses to the SA mount, quick tip: there's little need to sacrifice/destroy OEM lenses, instead you can dig into the Tamron adaptall lense lineup. Get an adaptall to pk adapter, modify that (quite easy and even reversible) and you can use an entire lens lineup on the SA mount in full manual and with stopped down metering. There is very little play between the lens and the camera (I get as much play from using Samyang lenses on Eos mount natively).
Most adaptall lenses aren't insanely fast, but they are lovely things with beautiful warm colours.
Wow great tip!! Thanks for sharing!!
Happy it sounds like you may have found your camera. You've inspired me to pick mine back up recently. Its use had dropped dramatically when [wait for it] I bought a used GFX50r. ;)
Ha! How are you liking your GFX?
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Generally good. Love the resolution and color tweaks, however I have to admit the native lens sizes get old when moving about. I'm often caught in the pull of shooting experience vs. file output with cameras. The GFX is definitely on the latter side. Honestly, sdQH for me too. Then I get lazy and start focusing on the shooting experience and that leads to m-mount lenses on various bodies, an old used SL most recently. I tried to combine shooting those lenses with the GFX in 35mm mode with some success, but it's an expensive camera to throw away that many pixels. Looking forward to the FF l-mount Foveon as the lens options will really expand, including those. I did buy the 24-70 f/2.8 sa-mount zoom recently due to the reinterest you sparked. Curious to experiment with soon. Great review BTW.
@@ricblessing3400 Oh you'll have to tell me how you like that 24-70mm! That was the lens I was initially after and my interest hasn't gone away :) I've seen the work you're shooting with that SL and it's just wonderful. Love your IG feed and recommended it here in this videos show notes. Keep it coming.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Thank you for the kind words and the link in the description. After more time will let you know about that 24-70. I'm very curious to see how that 12-24 and 21:9 works out for you too. You certainly already have much better control over Foveon colors than I. Looking forward to your video on processing to see if I can pick up any tips! And am happy to see the next body is a film camera. If it was digital I thought it might suffer in comparison. 😉
You are a certified geek, thank you for doing what you do!
I may or may not have searched the whole internet for either a Sigma DP Quattro or Quattro H after seeing your video...
ended up on an MPB listing of a Quattro H (mistakenly listed as a regular Quattro, but the pictures don't lie) for 630€ and really couldn't resist.
I'll have to download that Sigma Photo Pro thing after all it seems
Amazing video, i am so close to buying one now! Very much look forward to your processing video, as i am in love with your aesthetic, so film like a dreamy. I want to shoot like this!
Oh I'm so glad you liked it! My processing video is up; I hope it helps! ruclips.net/video/a3UzEPkY9HE/видео.html
Terrific narrator/narration & pretty nice pictures, too. She could sell 35mm Tri-X to Joel Meyerowitz.
lol
I have been sooo looking forward to this review! I always say I’m more interested in the intangibles than the all the scientific things that are easily quantified and qualified on a spec sheet and this camera is such a great example of that. I’ve been so blown away by all of your images from this camera in the past few weeks. Also, on a super random note - I actually got a Minolta 7000i a few weeks ago based on your suggestion! It came with a 35-105mm lens for $24. I had to get a new 2CR5 battery for it, but other than that, it works great! Anyway, amazing job as always!
Oh I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the 7000i! I'm eager to dive into mine since it has all these fun data cards which I actually bought and want to see what they can do. I think they're mostly gimmicky but still.... Mine was my father's camera so it's particularly special and has a fun story behind it. The fact these Minoltas - bodies and lenses - are still so under the radar is fantastic. You can get them for a song and they can be really good. Which 35-105 do you have? I first got the kit by accident and then found a beer can for cheap and adore it (allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_481.html#prettyPhoto). The only quibble I have is the close focusing distance is like rangefinder long, but it at least can flip into macro.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Oh wow, I didn’t realize there was a beer can version. I got the kit version. But yeah, I’m super excited ‘cause I was sixteen back when this came out in 1988. I had a Canon AE1 with manual focus lenses. The 7000i seemed so futuristic at the time. I can’t wait to see your video!
@@steve_heise if you happen upon the beer an for cheap, snag it. I got mine for $20 because it had a big scratch on the front of the lens and a dented filter thread but the IQ holds up in every way. Excited to spend the next two weeks with it!
hey I just wanted to say I love your channel. you make me want to go out and take pictures. I actually bought a camera off of your online shop and it arrived nice and safe. I could tell you put a lot of love and effort into packing the camera nicely in the shipping box. Thank you!
Oh wow thank you so much! That is so nice to hear. I hope you're loving your new camera!
Glad you finally found your ultimate camera!
That 21:9 is awesome~ never seen anywhere mentioned on the internet as I was doing a little research for a ‘digital Xpan’.. SDQuattro was never on the list.
Read somewhere that the camera mount can be altered to adapt canon lenses.. but I think you already have quite a handful of lens to play with for now :)
oh good to know!!
Ali i just saw this video because of the 21x9 pano crop option. Was wondering which focal length is your fav in pano terms and which Sigma lens you prefer for pano? Wish my DP2M had pano or at least the 24 grid option. I agree with the digital look. Fuji X Trans sensor has that problem with their own lenses. The GFX series not so much with the Bayer sensor. Have you tried Tiffens Pro Black Mist 1/4 filter?
Make sure to get a MC-21 SA to L-mount adapter (or E-mount if using Sony) to future proof the SA lenses.
Ok, I've always been intrigued by the sigma cameras and your two videos (followed by some RUclips trawling) have tipped me into buying a quattro (unfortunately not a H but the quattro will be enough). I'm super excited, just waiting now 😃
Oh amazing! Enjoy!!
I recommend that you get a few M42 Fujinon lenses to adapt. They're great.
I'll have to check that out. Do you find it messes with the color at all using vintage glass? I have an M42 Pentax lens that I usually love but didn't feel played terribly well with the Quattro.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras My understanding is that the coating on the SMC lenses interacts poorly with the sensor at some point to give a cast (often greenish). I haven't directl y experienced it though...
Thanks for the review, I am excited about this camera, it is still available in the used market at reasonable price. I know this is a slow camera, not only in the AF but also writing time to memory card. I wonder if you have tried at different resolution settings, the writing time of JPG and DNG, since the camera has very high resolution, I believe we can improve the writing speed in the expense of some resolution.
The Quattro S photos just look like 6x7 medium format film without the scanning issue. The only negative point is the slow AF acquisition, tricky for kids portraits. But when it’s on focus, the files are incredible gorgeous. I will never ever sell these cameras. I own 2x Quattro H cameras and the DP Quattros as well. They basically replaced my retired 6x7 Pentax and 6x6 Mamiya that I still enjoy to shoot from time to times. Even my Fuji GX680iii doesn’t match it 😅
Yay congratulations you bought one! Wow you have mastered the SDQ very quickly and you have a great lineup of lenses to! I have the same problem with the front dial sometimes slipping haha. If you want to increase the ergonomics and battery life I strongly suggest the battery grip it's amazing. I have the non H version with the 18-35 + 50-100 + the monster 120-300 F2.8. I have my auto iso set to max 400 at normal shutter speed. Works well for those moment you just want to get the shot in lower light. As for correct skin tones I select the correct WB and reduce the crisp setting in SPP to min to reduce the micro contrast and to further smooth the skin I select portrait. I shoot standard colour mode 95% of the time. Do you have a F stop preference?? Well done on a great vid it's one of the best about the SD. 😊
Thank you so much and wow, I can only imagine what that 120-300 is like :P I do the same in SPP for my portrait workflow bringing the crisp all the way down but I do find the shadows and oranges can get a little, I don't know how to say, chalky? It's an interesting thing but I find I can then take the tiffs to Lightroom and just finish off any HSL type adjustments to get it closer to what I like. With the 18-35 I'm usually shooting between 1.8 and 8 to avoid any diffraction.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras The Sigma photo pro series on youtube by Mark James Ford is well worth the watch. The 120-300 is like the 50-100 on steroids with image stabilization and over double the weight. I had tennis elbow lifting it for the first few weeks but now I'm good to go:) I find all three lenses have a sweet spot for sharpness above F5.6 and the 50-100 is faster at focusing than the 18-35 for some strange reason. Have you got the Auto iso shutter speed setting in the ISO menu?
13:10 - Your dream seems to have come true now.
OMG I KNOW! So excited.
I reckon those harsh skin tones could be fixed with a leaded glass zeiss lens - rumour is that sigma is prototyping a full frame foveon sensor this year and then we may get a leica mount! Also I hope they will bring back the merril sensor when they do this as the merril apparently was a proper foveon sensor and the quattro series took a shortcut - I'm not sure how but you can look it up.
Interesting! Hadn't heard that but I am so excited by the prospect of where they will take the Foveon next.
Ofcourse you have another camera that you make me want to get! I do hope that Sigma considers making a full frame foveon!
Me too!!
Welcome back! Great video and love the enthusiasm as always. This for me has too much against it to even try fur the price. Size being a major one. Sigma do love their fat boi lenses don’t they. They are great tho.
My dream would be a new APSC foveon camera in either L or M mount (imagine a new Leica CL type body with that sensor and evf only).
Now THAT would be heaven!!!
Subscribed! Looking forward to more Sigma :-)
Welcome aboard and thank you!!
These are quirky cameras but I do love my dp quattro 2 and my sd quattro. Superb photos. I do sooc jpegs.
Great work Alex.
I really enjoyed this video, the images of this camera are insane. I hope one day I can buy one.
I'm counting the days for the video about your father's camera.
Will you publish the video of your workflow before?
Thank you! Yes, I'm planning to post the workflow video first, hopefully next week, and then the Minolta 7000i about a week and a half later. Excited to be shooting some more film again!
You're right about the Merrill look being quite harsh - sometimes too gritty for portraiture. It's very unflattering as it shows every wrinkle and pore. BUT it's great for certain subjects - street portraits of heavily tattooed folks, old people, pets, and other subjects where the details and microcontrast really make the image!
I totally agree; it’s a pocketable beast and I love to keep mine on me.
those sample pictures are awesome, I assume they are not SOOC.
Btw, the reason for the mount being so far forward is that the lenses were made for their dslr line (with a mirror like the SD merrill for example)
Thank you Jacob! Makes sense on the mount and yes, none of these shots are SOOC. I shoot the X3F raw files and process in sigma photo pro.
When I was younger I started out on film photography. Most of the images were okay. During that time when I first found out about digital photography I thought digital photography was terrible since the quality was not there in the late 1990’s. During the early 2000’s period when my family bought their first digital camera in the 2000’s I bought a slr film camera. Some of the pictures that I took were good, but most were okay. Later on I started to use a digital camera. I think that buying a Mac in the early 2000’s and finding out that digital photography is not as slow and the image quality improved. Most of the pictures that I have that my family took before I was born are are okay. If the film camera is really good it can take images but nowadays I can take images on a digital camera that are almost as good as a really good film camera but I can do so more consistently.
Yes there are definitely advantages to digital. It's an interesting thing because there is the technical side but there is also the emotional side and I find I take different pictures with both film and digital.
I love my SD Quattro H. I wish there was more support for editing, but as clunky and as basic as it can be Sigma Photo Pro it does an adequate job. I do love the infrared aspect, can be tricky editing but if I'm feeling stale for ideas off comes the filter for an experimental day. If I want outstanding blank and white often the infrared is the way to go. Skin tones can be a challenge if the light is tricky. Hence I tend to settle for custom white balance. And when it comes to editing I might zoom in to the white of the eye and click there for correcting any colour issues, seems to help. For a camera with a lack of features compared to most competitors, the different aspect ratios is a real winner. It intrigues me what a foveon full frame could do, but I wonder it it will ever happen. I love the film like / lack of digital feel to the files, but it seems to be a technology that has struggled with each improvement always being behind in features. It seems to be a technology that is very power hungry. It's never been a camera for everyone. I've noticed though that even non photographers recognise that is a different quality to the finished image which I found surprising, thinking it might just be me, or in my head.
That's super interesting. After all the cameras I've shot, it is still the one that inspires me the most and definitely, that output is unlike anything else. Compelling that even a non photog can see it.
Silly question... but if you never shoot in the full resoution of the camera, why didn't you get the Aps-c version? It's cheaper and match the lenses better. Nice video though. I am really curious to give the camera a go. I like the colors and the look of the images.
lovely color!
Thank you!!
Im a published photographer and shot with the SD Quattro and Quattro H since they were both released. Undoubtedly the SD Quattro was one of the most frustrating cameras I had ever shot with. The build quality of the cameras was very good, felt well built like their Art lenses. When paired with the 18-35mm Art lens and conditions were absolutely perfect, both cameras could produce stunning images! Other times conditions could be very similar and when viewing the images in photoshop or Lightroom and zoomed in on at 100%, the photos would all look like an oversharpened mess, this was due to the micro contrast in the Foveon sensor. It was extremely frustrating, I sell big gallery prints of my work and need consistent results. Sigma has also discontinued the H and I think the Quattro is next, also all the added accessories are discontinued as well.
I’ve since switched over to the Fuji GFX medium format system and just blown away at the amount of detail in my images..
I really tried with Foveon, but in the end, it just ended up too frustrating an experience.
Hi Gino, I had the same experience with my SD. I have found the default Sigma photo Pro (for raw files) settings way high in micro contrast and sharpening levels need to be dropped. Once set correctly the camera can produce very natural looking images.
@@imac3355 Hey thanks for the reply. Yes I tried all that.. dropped the sharpness way down and still the images looked over sharpened. Like I said, it was odd.. sometimes in perfect conditions, the images came out really beautiful, not looking over sharp at all and then other times in very similar conditions, the images would come out looking way over sharp, even with the sharpness turned all the way down. Honestly I’m very happy I switched to the Fuji GFX 50r. The GFX produces beautiful medium format images. I’m also buying the GFX 100s. I can say I’m not missing the frustration of the SD Quattro…lol
I agree with you on the gfx 50, I was interested in it because of the medium format sensor, dynamic range and image quality. but being honest the photos straight out of my d700 look better than most gfx images I've seen. it doesn't do it for me either. which I know is subjective. but not worth the money to me
I know people who do great work with theirs and love them but yeah, it just didn’t give me any feels
The problem is that the GFX doesn’t integrate a special sensor : it’s a 12 year old CMOS sensor, same generation as the D700 without the same color science I guess. It’s the same sensor that was used on the Pentax 645Z and on the Leica S2 mark II. On the other hand, the Pentax 645D and Leica S2 mark Had 44x33cm CCD sensors with very nice skin tone and overall color output. CCD files look closer to FOVEON and are pretty easy to post process without too much editing.
@@etienneamien Leica S cameras have a 3:2 ratio sensor. Only Pentax and Fuji use the same sensor.
awsome exponential thank you I love foveon
Just got my SD Quattro (APSC) and it’s a dream! I somehow totally missed the 21:9 crop for sure going to have to mess with this.
Check it out! Such a fun crop to work with. Congrats on your camera!!
Hi! How do you handle low light situations? (night market, sunrise/sunset). How to know which lens has an SA mount? (looks like the bulk of the 2nd hand lenses are Canon and Nikon mount). Any option to use Canon EF with an adaptor? Thank you!
So I own 5 of these, have done since about 2018, 4 with their own dedicated prime lenses. [14, 24, 35, 50] the 5th shares a 70mm Macro & an 85mm. I also own 20 batteries.... they must be the most power hungry camera on the planet....but hey, nothings perfect ! [I do astro with the 14mm, and for this I've set up a buck {DC to DC device} that allows me to run the camera off an electric bike battery for days on end... !! :) Also good for time lapse ] In my humble opinion they are a thinking photographers camera, not a sophisticated point and shoot. [I own two of those, both Nikon's, a D6 and a Z9]. I tend to see a lot with the Sigma as I nearly always stop and assess a scene prior to shooting it, it makes photography a relaxing pass time for me. I never use auto on the SD H, it's manual all the way! I primarily shoot landscape, still life and wildflowers with them. I always shoot at 1/3 of a stop underexposed. I looked at your shots and I'd say don't be scared to push hard to the left on the histogram, I believe you'll be amazed at what you can recover ! [Yes :), I know YT is not the most flattering platform...]
The reason for the mount is it's a throwback from Sigma's film cameras. The SA mount goes way back when, and this allows them to be used on all the Sigma cameras. The older lenses don't resolve particularly well on the newer camera's, but if you're after a retro look, the older lenses deliver it and are very cheap nowadays. I have 7 old lenses in a drawer and I'm loathed to get rid of them...... you just never know !!! There was talk by Sigma of a SA to L mount adapter, but I don't know if it ever eventuated.
I don't tend to use super fine, I generally shoot in brackets of 3. I was an early adopter of Photmatix Pro [It hit the market in ~2003 / 4 from memory] and used it for HDR back before HDR was the cool thing on the block. Of course, now HDR is everywhere.
If you're able to afford it, look at investing in a set of professional ND filters, the Sigma sensor absolutely loves them. [I use NISI Pro 150 x 150mm and a truckload of step up rings, but there are others on the market, just make sure they are optical glass and not plastic]
My peers simply don't understand my irritating willingness to lug kilo's and kilo's of gear around with me, the're always harping on about how I could do it lighter and faster.... but they seem to like my pics....funny that eh???
ON1 2019 opens .XF3 files, however, later versions won't which is irritating as I'm heavily invested, time wise. Used it since 2016.
I enjoyed your delivery and I'll keep an eye on your channel.
Enjoy.
Al.
Oh My Goodness! You must be the foremost expert I've come across. And what a camera collection! I can't believe you have 5 of these beauties!
Hi, coming from medium format film, I also fell in love with the Sigma Quattro system :
I first purchased the Sigma DP Quattro 0-1-2-3 second hand and brought them in holidays in Grèce to compare them with my 6x7 and Fuji 6x17 camera and guess what : the colors, textures and details just look extremely similar to slide film or Kodak Ektar film (depending on the way the raw file is post processed) I then found a good deal for the Quattro H and 2 prime lenses at Keh and finally also ended up purchasing the 12-24mm F4 and 24-70mm F2.8 and 85mm 1.4 sa Art lens at Adorama for half the price. All these lenses are great but the 50mm 1.4 art and 12-24mm are just unbelievable great ! I didn’t know it was compatible with the 18-35mm ? Did you try any other APSC lenses with it ?
Now THAT is a killer collection! The 18-35 and 50-100 are the only lenses I have that are APSC but again, they make me feel there is no their lens I need (same for the 12-24 now :))
By the way how do you like your 24-70? I almost bought that one instead
@@OneMonthTwoCameras it’s a great lens too, the range is of course very useful, but the overall IQ is not on par with the 18-35mm 1.8 or prime lenses. The distortion on the 24-70mm is pretty well controlled but the bokeh isn’t as smooth as on the prime lenses and it needs to be stopped at F4 at least for better overall IQ. It’s very good for travel though. Another good option to consider for travel is the 24-105mm. It came for « free » with my second Quattro H body (purchased second hand as backup) and is a nice option to consider. Second hand prices are around 350-400$ for this lens. Did I forgot to mention : the 20mm and 24mm Art primes are stellar too ! Coming from the Bronica 6-7 Fuji G680 and Fuji 617 I aslo feel that the Quattro H is like a portable digital medium format system with infinite film ! ;)
Have a look at the second hand we stores like KEH and Adorama they sell like new lenses for bargain prices ! My favorite one would be the 50mm 1.4 ART (it’s better then the 35mm and becomes a 60mm on the Quattro H)
i gave up this camera long long time ago due to this horrible evf refresh rate and end up with GFX systems. thanks for the review :)
Funny enough I went the other way, selling the GFX before buying this. It's all about what works for you!
Beautiful photos, I've thought about the same combo.
Thank you!
Hi Alexis
I’ve been watching your channel for some time now can I ask if you will do a review on the d700, i know there are lots of them out there
I have always wanted to try the D700. I've heard nothing but great things and will keep an eye out for a good body to review.
Surprised you didn't dive into the unique history and design logic of the sensor... Despite this, great video. Lots of feels underneath. Keep it up!
Thank you! I felt the video was too long as it was so I just tried to encourage people going to my DP2Q review for a bit more on the sensor but man, these cameras are a real treat.
I love my Foveon, I prefer the Merrills (I have a Sigma DP2 Merrill presently) myself, they just have a gritty look compared to the later sensors - even if I need to carry around 15 different batteries for a walk with it. Foveon images just look a bit different, in both color and black and white. The Merrills in particular just freak out if you go over ISO 100, lest you shoot only in black and white and manipulate the blue channel. It's a bit like shooting slide film in methodology.
The DP2M is a brilliant camera. I scored one from a guy who had no idea what he was selling so I suuuuuuper lucked out and just love how incredibly powerful it is and still relatively pocketable. Kind of insane really.
I own all three DP Merrill cameras, DP1/2/3M and I love them all, all produce exceptional photos, the DP2 is my favorite but for portrait I use the DP3M. I used to own a SD Quattro with the 50-100 f/1.8 but I sold that kit in favor of the must more expensive GFX 50S II. I found the SD Quattro kit extremely heavy, no doubt this camera is built like a tank, nothing comes close, and the colors are very film like, more than the Merrill which is punchier.
It's a beast indeed! I love it so much that I'm willing to bear the burden but wish they could put this sensor in a smaller less robust form factor. My DP series bridge the gap for now.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras They do, the DP Quattro series have the same sensor, but alas not the APS-H version. I've seen output from both APS-C And APS-H and I don't see any difference from the tonality or film-like colors mood/colors. The APS-H simply allows larger prints without losing much resolution. I have printed 13x19 photos from the DPM cameras and the resolution and colors are simply stunning.
Halfway through. But already so much of it reminds me of the 5d classic. Not least of which being the images.
I need to shoot the 5D more.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras funnily enough I have the Ef mount 30 1.4 and works with the 5d. A little bit of vignetting but nothing a minor crop can’t fix.
Sigma also makes a 18-50mm for APS-C. Any thoughts on that one vs the 18-35mm that you have? Thx for your channel; it has more on Sigmas than anything out there.
Thanks Jack. I unfortunately can't comment on the 18-50mm at the moment but the 18-35mm is an absolute stunner. I'll try and get my hands on the 18-50mm to compare.
ahhhh that shutter makes me wanna drop everything and buy this right now, i have a sony a7rii right now and ive honestly not really been feeling it, i almost exclusively shoot film and really want to bring that experience to digital, its been making me think about getting something like this or an xpro3 ah...
Coming from film, I can definitely recommend the experience of these cameras. They're truly a delight.
Love the video, thank you! I have a used sigma on the way…
Hope you enjoy it!
Great video and interesting camera - so the difference between the Quattro and Quattro H is the sensor size - but also the addition of the 21:9 ratio?
All the Quattros have 21:9. Not sure on the Merrills.
@@ricblessing3400 thanks for that… I know I can select whatever aspect I want in post, but I think this is a compelling feature to have in camera.
Ric is right! You have 21:9 built in as an aspect ratio option in camera for all the Quattros :) Not so with the Merrills or original DPs
What I'm hearing. It's ektar digital film
I shoot the DP3 Merrill and I love it, but now I need the Quattro H for even longer lenses :)
I hate to say it but you won't regret it :P
@@OneMonthTwoCameras they are just a bit hard to find. the regular ones a lot but not the H :)
I’ve though about buying one of these a few times but the limited eco system for lenses is a the major limitation that keeping me from one. If it came down in price i might consider it. But for now I’ll just dream. 😂
Looking for a nice cheap zoom lens (range 24-70 ?) for this camera. Anything someone could recommand ?