The TESLA of Vans(?) FIRST DRIVE! The
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- This video has been done with the support of Canoo and is all taken at face value and incorporating my real lived (all be it brief) experience with both the vehicle and the people of Canoo. My impression that this is the Tesla of Vans is based on the way that Tesla changed the landscape for electric cars. My feeling this has the potential to do the same for Vans...
The feedback has been honestly given and well received. They are clear that some things have to change ahead of a UK launch. Their model allows for this and has been evidenced by the way they have won accounts in the US. Not least the United States Postal Service!
Realistically this vehicle will be available in 2025 but given the quality of the drive many people may be asking for this sooner rather than later!
Great range and charging speed as standard also with a high level of configurability which is due to their aim being to be an extension of your business!
Watch this space for more on Canoo as they build a platform from which to launch here in the UK. 
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Love this. Hope the company makes it. C’mon Apple, chuck some money at it!
Unfortunately a significant margin of their budget is blown on their CEO's salary. They are trying to survive by getting government contractual orders because Canoo is corrupt and mismanaged. Which is unfortunate, because the concept is solid.
Elon ditch the Cyber Spaceship and partner with Canoo!
@@JEP-Tech yes. Spent more on private planes for the ceo than the company brought in!
@@JEP-Tech ... uninformed statement. CEO Tony has invested over $400 million in this company, don't you think he's got some perks coming?
@@ArizonaPoet No, you don't get "perks" when your company is a start up and is solidly in the red. He's a billionaire, he wants to fly in his private plane, he should be paying that out of his own pocket until they actually make money or fly commercial like anyone else does. Walmart is one of the largest and most profitable publicly traded companies and doesn't even pay for the pens that corporate officers use in meetings. Companies don't make money buy paying their CEO's "perks" for not making the company any money. This shows that the company is mismanaging funds and not doing everything possible to maximize their return on investment.
I am so excited to see them in the UK. I've followed them since the start and realised that their tech would be superb for disabled drivers like me.
Watch this space! It certainly could be very suitable 👍
@electricvanman They've had a very rocky road coming to market in the USA, so I'd be a bit cautious about a Canoo purchase just yet, despite loving the products.
The configurability bodes very well for campervans. The 190 looks like it might actually be big enough (unlike the SWB Buzz which really is a bit too tiddly (like this 130 size) at 3.8m3. the 4.8m3 is only slightly smaller than a SWB vivaro B (5.2) for example. The drive-by-wire and all that unconstrained space should make for some really interesting possibilities. Like what do we do with all that front-space? 'Storage' seems like a good start. 80kWh is bigger than the SWB buzz and PSA vans, but smaller than the Buz LWB. So depends on efficiency of drivetrain and aero for how that compares on real-world range. I look forward to some Bjorn tests.
Was there any mention of V2G? This is important for campers which spend a lot of time on the drive.
And of course when will it actually arrive and what sort of price?
I hope that Cannoo's attitude to configurable hardware and making things their customers actually want extends to software configuarability. How are they to deal with in terms of changing stuff (or even better letting us change stuff ourselves in order to add camping-mode functions that they probably haven't bothered with yet)?
I'm guessing we'll have to wait at least another year before this thing actually turns up?
Yes probably a year for full UK entry and then maybe a little longer before wider availability for Camper style conversions. That said when they come there is V2G capability so there should plenty of options on that front.
@@electricvanman I don't mind doing my own conversion - in fact I think I'd prefer to, but it's a massive time investment so I'm still waiting for the right base. And of course getting changes to the base to suit camper applications requires more than just one-offs. I don't know if canoo have already thought about this for the US market, so may have something in their design stash.
So you are saying that they already do V2G? Or have just promised it? That's very good news if so.
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I sat in one at the Los Angeles Auto Show a few years ago and was suitably impressed. It has so many excellent features, including the low windows at the front that greatly improve road visibility
It really does. Not everyone is a fan in the UK but I can see some clear benefits!
Great review. Interesting concepts
Excellent review of an excellent design. New subscriber, please keep the updates coming!
The cab is unique. Visibility is excellent. Passenger side window is helpful for safe turning at intersections. What I need is an empty long wheel base van to create a job specific gear hauler that you can sleep in and make breakfast. Gear will include, Fully assembled bicycles, alpine climbing gear, kayaks and paddle boards. D ring tie downs inside plus roof rails and cross bars to secure a variety of loads are also essential. Looking forward to a test drive when you have the vehicle I’m looking for ; )
What's Just As Cool, Is We Help Assemble Them In Oklahoma. Bringing Us (Okies) Jobs. Thank You, Canoo!
As a big Fan and investor in Canoo, I am very happy that they are bringing good jobs to Oklahoma! Thanks for your work with Canoo.
They made exactly 22. My kids and I could have made more than that. Hope you're not one of their employees, because you're going to be out of work very, very soon.
@@amanhasnoname98why would you lie knowing you and your kids can’t make one.
I drove my Tesla through Oklahoma City and was tail-gated by two Okies. I guess the conservatives there do not like EVs. Canoo picked a very unfriendly EV place to build EVs 👈🏾 Canoo has potential, but it is manufactured in the wrong state.
Good to see Canoo still going. Personally follow them since like years ago...
Saw this vehicle in the movie Atlas and didn't think its a real production vehicle, until now. Amazing
Looks fantastic, would love it for our fleet. Elephant in the room of course is costs - current lease costs for electric vans are preventing us transitioning the fleet
It’s the mix of cost and residual value that is the challenge that we have! As yet the elephant has not arrived in the room and we won’t know price until they have a landed uk cost, which of course will have a number of dependencies . I am sure it won’t be too long though- what is your fleet and what do you do?
@@electricvanman it's a mixture of uses. Around 500 vans / flatbeds. About 100 do higher mileage from site to site but the rest mainly get used for moving stuff around locally - which I think would be ideal for the canoo
@@dstarley do you know Company Car In Action? I run Vans in Action at the event (Milbrook) maybe you qualify to go?
@@electricvanman I don't but thanks for letting me know. I'm actually the climate lead for the business so my interest is emissions, but I will pass this on to the fleet manager 👍
@@dstarley you would be very welcome too! I know how important it is for “Transport” and “Sustainability “ to work together 👍
A hell of a lot of van users wont need anywhere near a ton of load carrying capability. The opening door would be a lot better to use than the sliding one too, especially if converted to a camper. Not as good in tight spaces though I agree.
I also like my vans to be fun. Most arent, but you can make changes to improve them. Why should they just be boring when you can spend every day of your working week in them. More fun vans please!
Im very interested in these. I think the modular ability in the rear is fantastic and really well thought out. Same applies to the cab area. Range is sufficient too and better than the other small electric van alternatives.. even the mediums too, apart from the buzz.
Interested in the pricing and when we're likely to be able to get our hands on one.
We will get information on prices and timing later this year. I agree that the market needs more “fun” vans as you put it. Only that they must remain practical. It great when vans come along that allow you to stand out!
I'd got it in my head from somewhere that Canoo were in serious financial trouble and so had given up on the idea of ever seeing them in the UK. Seems I was wrong.
Financially they are barely surviving. But now they are at a low production for high volume orders. I think they are scrapping what they can until they hit a big contract. If that happens we'll be able to see more production of the other variations. I'm still a fan because of the concept they have going. Hope I'll be able to own that bulldog version
The Bulldog is a beast! Their strategy now is clear and they are focused on fleet, like USPS, Walmart and similar for the UK
Think Ocado delivery contract or UPS
You're not wrong, last I heard they were going bankrupt.
Great video 4:26
Didn’t realise they already have a RH drive version, brilliant and I would definitely like one especially the pickup.
They made RHD for the USPS mail delivery vehicles. It’s easy to switch because it’s steer by wire and no complicated dashboard design.
@@CyberOwners do you know where these are going to be on display in the U.K assuming they are still here, would definitely like to see them in the flesh just like I did with the Cybertruck the other weekend.
@@tonystock856they won't, canoo are destined for bankruptcy
Canoo rock, certainly one of the most innovative MPV / Van manufacturers in the market today. Pioneering decent range, and now in the UK. Whats not to like about this Futuristic vision of the future. Vans don't need to be boring any more...
I don't *need* a van but this van is a van I want.....I need to work out what to do with it. Maybe I can do a massive weekly shop for everyone on our street
Looks really nice
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I saw these featured on Sandy Munro last year, possibly longer, glad they’re making there way to the UK
Yeah I mean, I want one! Get on my driveway!!!
These really have their place here in France. The camper version would work too.
It makes the Cyber Trough look like something from the "Outer Limits", or "Jurassic Park", obsolete and useless. Why didn't Electric Jesus create something like this? Absolutely brilliant.
what utter bs, another anti tesla shill let loose on utube
Just what I was thinking. Now he’s threatening to cut the baby in half if he doesn’t get his 50 billion dollar payout.
My thoughts exactly, cyper joke...unfortunately this company are very close to bankruptcy..burning money like no tomorrow..bummer!!!!
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OK, I understand, you're not smart.
@@chrisschneiders6734
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I have a Delica D5 in the UK and work on Teslas - I so want to try of these Canoos
I need one for my Pressure Washing Business and one for my mobile detailing Business. Love the different configurations.
"Americans don't drive on the right side of the road," which is literally what we do. 🤣 Love the Canoo. Hoping they make it. Good idea to go after the "work" market first.
You might be right, but you're not correct
@kromus1 no matter which direction you're proceeding in North America you will be on your right unless you're traversing a one way street. Right and correct.
Well he might have dyslexia. I know I still get confused by right in my life but he's confused. But yeah cuz I have to remind myself which is left and right and have a scar on my right hand. So yeah I have no problem letting you know that sometimes I have a challenge we do in America drive on the right lol. Whichever side of the freaking street you drive on this is a pretty cool vehicle but I'd like it in a hybrid or gas version cuz I have to travel real far in. I haul things in my. I'm in my trailers and have to haul my boat and it's kind of a pain in the ass to charge. But it is a badass vehicle. Now. The company is kind of shady. Great idea but they're freaking back investors money. Like Elon Musk work is magic. I wish he'd come out with something like this. A van/ also pickup. I like the pickup. I'll get one of each
@@NelsonCummings agreed! How crazy is it to get excited about a van. 🤣 The last one that caught my eye was the Pontiac TransSport.
Pretty sure he meant right side of the vehicle--not the road =)
I like the look of the car, reminds me of a pill shape. pretty neat
Very nice
The LSV/passenger, not the delivery version. Has been compared to the Black cabs of London. In a favorable way. The back window rolls down, if you want fast food, you , from the back seat, talk to the speaker. You, from the back seat handle the money and the food. No one else.
I have sat in the passenger version also. It is a great space and that rear window feature is cool too.
The back window roll down feature of the pickup truck goes well with the Limousine concept of the LDV190 converted to a wet-bar equipped limo. Can see these become the limo standard. Base van converted inside to luxury hotel standards.
Would love to have it has a camper van.
Good review
I'm disappointed it's only coming out for fleets. I would love the pickup version.
Cheers
These look amazing for a compact campervan, as long as it has minimum 6ft long cargo section. My only worry with that low front window is stone chips and smashes. But maybe its just not actually an issue.
The glass has some protection and can also be replaced easily in the worst case. I understand the concern but I do not think it will be much of an issue
“Canoo can do.” My catch phrase for it
I like it!!
I hope it comes to the Katri Conference July 2-7 2024 at the Marriot Center in Raleigh North Carolina
I like the window!
I would love to own a Canoo 190❤
Great explanation for the older and more conservative crowd that may have been reluctant. 👍🏻 you don’t sound like the usual car industry expert. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you ! I really appreciate the comment. I am simply someone that has been in the industry helping fleets use vans well and now have focused on electric 👍
Love it.
Canoo are the top innovators with their full drive by wire approach. I'd love to buy one before the company goes out of business.
Let’s hope they will not go out of business! There is a big appetite for what they are doing!
If they bring the passenger vehicle to the uk and contact Motability they will have a ready market that sells more than 15% of all cars here.
Nice idea
Looks great
Good for round town
BUT.....
200 hundred ish miles 3 to 4 hours on the road will leave you stranded just when you need to get home
This vehicle could be perfect if it was a hybrid.
Needs more real world thought 🤔
Yes, I agree. Cuz I got distance to travel and all things hybrid or option of just gas or gas electric I'll be okay with that. Not just electric. I'm not a office worker 9:00 to 5:00 job lol
The average daily mileage here in the UK of a working van is around 80 miles. But somewhere between 100 and 150 miles Will be suffice for at least half of the market. The charging speed is quite high also which means a quick boost of 50 or 75 miles would be perfectly possible in less than 15 minutes.
As stated
Round town.
With traffic as it is. A 400 mile range would make it a more feasible alternative. Winter driving with heating on would also make things difficult. Don't get me wrong, it looks nice, but I am a professional van driver, a trip from Leicester to Exeter would be a 2 day trip, not a single day, as of present.
Even a trip to London would add hours of charge time to the journey.
Thus, a hybrid would work.
This vehicle needs more real-world thought.
Maybe it should be a Recreational Vehicle.
Thanks for the reply Sir 🫡
Let’s see the pickup!
The van looks great!
Will grab that for a day next time it’s in the UK 👍
I like it .
These are used in the Netflix film Atlas
This would be a good competition to the VW ID Buzz!
As a camera man and photographer, this would be great if it was 4wd with the spec to turn it into a day van, like the old Mitsubishi delica
Ofcourse that Front Green house demands some attention
some nice pots with plants, small Brushes, some may prefer crotchet.. a shelve..
so much room for activities
two things that are simultaneously great, and troubling. The forward visibility is great - I would just worry about road debris penetrating the passenger cabin. I would prefer a flat screen connected to a forward looking camera, with a reinforced metal front "shield" instead (especially on American roads and roads in the developing world were a stray piece of rebar on the road can make for a very bad day). Also, the drive-by-wire looks like it may induce a video game effect which may take some getting used to - not sure if the steering has any artificially induced feedback to make it feel more connected to the wheels despite DBW. I do love that these vehicles were designed with the second and third owners in mind when it comes to maintenance.
I found that the steering was excellent once I got used to the very short lock to lock. It is very "instant in its response" I did not feel like it was disconnected from the road - quite the opposite!
@@electricvanman Thanks for your evaluation. I hope they find the right partner to finish what they started and go into mass production. I think eventually, every new vehicle will have DBW steering. Many vehicles have had DBW brakes for some time and customers don't even realize. I'm just curious what it feels like when you hit an irregularity in the road while in the middle of a hard corner - normally this gets translated back to the driver via the steering wheel. I was just curious if you noticed any artificial feedback during your test. The Korean's (KIA) in particular are tearing the EV van/small truck picture out of the same book but I would rather buy a product produced in the US if it's competitive. I have a commercial Canoo truck pre-order (which I don't expect to see become available for years - if ever :D)
@ivantuma
When was the last time you had "a small piece of Rebar" puncture a Radiator?
Never?
I am glad you made this positive video because most of the videos I see are made negatively to bash the Canoo and stock.
Thank you! My focus is the vehicle and the difference it can make for the market if successful. I want to give people reasons to be optimistic 😇👍
I would buy one
I've invested in Canoo, still waiting and hoping its not vaporware... The "American Bulldog" pickup will the vehicle that gets my $$!
Use case - Nail the 8 by 4 sheet on edge challenge and you’ve got on to my list for sure
But having watched another video on the company looks like it’s got poor management and cash problems
Take a shot every time he says vehicle 😂🎉
I'd like to see it a passenger Van. I have 2 seniors in thier 90s. I'd like to add seating that can be converted to a bed (like Aircraft Pods).
Like it.
Been in Canoo for 3+yrs now...hope they make it to the roads! Management has been pathetic on execution...
I hope they make it. A pickup truck would work for me.
The pickup is a beast!
@@electricvanman Having worked with high powered electric motors almost all of my adult life, I can appreciate the instantaneous torque generated by said motors. I don't need a race truck. Four wheel drive and the ability to haul a good load will work for me. Leave the SS monstrosity for others to play with.
The concern I would bring up is that with it being that configurable would be parts availability.
In the real world, things happen and things get broken and down time is money.
As stated it's a concern; I haven't heard it being brought up so I'm mentioning it.
I think initially it wil have focus on specific fleets where there will be many of a few and that will build everything out
Interesting. Needs a frunk for access to the space . Needs better battery tech for more range.
Can see a great camper version .
Indeed and that has been a topic of conversation… could become a reality… keep an eye out 👍
The coffin 😂!
I would love a people carrier version of this for personal use.
It is a great looking people carrier both inside and out.
@@electricvanman I love the glass panel that lets you see down through the nose of the cabin. Wouldn’t mind a steering wheel that is actually a wheel though. Sometimes things are a shape for a reason.
I want it as a camper van…
Love this concept. Though the absence of a physical connection between steering wheel and wheels is a big no go for me: can't imagine what an impact an electrical failure would have, and at some point there will be an electrical failure. Also very curious about the range when loaded.
There won’t be a failure. There is redundancy in the system
They have a number of contingencies to make sure that it’s never in a situation of an electrical failure.
@@electricvanman Thanks for the feedback, but I’m now very curious how this is done. I have encountered lots of issues with cars that suffered from weird electrical gremlins often caused by corroded connections, microcracks in soldering or fuses, and so on. So for me, it’s not reassuring to rely on something like that. Still a great van though.
I thought these guys had gone bankrupt. Glad to see they're still fighting.
going i hear cant get cash ?
Can u fit 8x4 sheets in it?
Can I fit an 8 x 4 sheet inside ? Otherwise I will stick to my Toyota hiace .
I want one......or two
Canoo is borderline bankrupt. Hope they can raise some cash.
They'll collect your deposit
Then run silently away
Very good point chap🫡
Campervan ? Might be good, especially if it has two side doors to access the sleep area 🤔
I'm wondering how much it would be
Not been agreed yet as cost for the UK will vary the base price
Its time to invest in Canoo
0:36 "Taking the specifications from America and understanding what they are in English". LOL
Bring them to NZ and AUS as well please
You are not the first to say this! I was speaking to a Kiwi only yesterday who said exactly the same!
@@electricvanman I’m in the market for a new van next year. This van would suit my business perfectly. I really don’t want to buy another diesel.
the first video on my feed next to this one is from the wall st journal about canoo and its imminent bankruptcy if it doesnt secure more funding, it doesnt bode well for potential buyers.
That lower windscreen will be definitely a distraction while driving and see all front space by the windshield just as waste space suitable just for coats, shoes and receipts.
I thought the window was an odd audition at first. I have to say having driven it for a few hours you quickly get used to it and see the value of it. As mentioned in the video they can change that for steel or and make the space more usable.
Not really a review, more of a long infomercial. It looks great and has done for all the years its been coming. Lets get it here. I think it has loads of potential. Be good to understand the price v competitors. For sure it will be much cheaper to run. Not sure how practical a oblong wheel is weaving down our residential estates, negotiating mini roundabouts and 3 point turns. An easy fix for them if it's not practical though.
At this stage it has to be that! We can’t drive it out in the real world so I just pass on the info and my experience 👍 the steering is great in that you don’t have to turn it beyond one lock therefore making it much easier to navigate mini roundabouts etc
Canoo and Arrival may fit together in that Practicality of Build them in Micro Factories.
UK should check other ways of manufacturing
Cool vehicle but why have they put the Union Jack upside down 😮
Wow the guys did mention that but I said (as a passionate and Patriotic Brit) that I didn’t know that you could do that and not to worry if it was wrong…. Seems I was wrong!! My bad (as the kids say)
@@electricvanman great reply 😎👍
Literally nobody but the ruddiest gammon cares
That flag will annoy a lot of people. Has it been printed backwards ?
@@jimpackard8059 no it was just put on upside down. I am 55 and this is the first I knew it could be upside down! 🙃 don’t let it spoil your enjoyment of the vehicle 🙏
I don't like the A/C vents so high up above the visors. Seems like that would constantly give you a draft on your head.
When are they actually going to bring this to market... Been wanting to buy one, but I'll end up likely doing an Edison drive on an older van bc I can't wait any longer :-/
Stateside my understanding is they are meeting orders from Walmart and USPS and similarly in the UK they will be targeting larger fleet/workhorse orders
Been watching the company for years now. My wife holds stock. If they would put this thing out to the public it would sell like crazy... I think anyway.
But it always seems to be another 24-36 months out for sales to the public.
@@RandomlyRich agreed but they need a firm foundation based on simple repetitive specifications in short term or they won’t be able to move to the mass market approach with it’s complexity and cost.
Not normally a fan of big electric vehicles because i think less vehicles (or smaller ones) are better in the long run - it's why I'm sad XBUS went bust. However, this looks like it was made really well for the purpose they had in mind - great for tradies, a new gen of white van men, the rest of it. I'm worried that they'll sell it as a vanity pickup, though
The intention is exactly to sell it into the working world and large fleets. Making a difference for drivers that have to really use the vehicle and make the vehicle an extention of the business
How much and when is it available in the UK ?
Good questions both. Reality is mid 25 for full UK deployment (or thereabouts) and pricing will come as they understand the changes required for the UK market 👍
All this is in the future tense, with tons of if and questions marks.
Make it come to Europe (better suited to the european market IMHO) and, more importantly, start building it.
It is in the future tense as it has only just arrived. It is important to consider the possibilities so that people will give them a try!
if only there was AWD or FWD option it would be perfect
There is an AWD version currently available in the US and may come to the UK
'Canno' might be an unfortunate misspell. 'Cannot'?? Design looks great. Functional case too disconnected from market?
I can’t spot the spelling mistake… anyway, I think they are very connected to the market and are listening hard to hear the needs. Certainly the way they are coming across here
Just more Promotion, something we don't need. What we really need is PRODUCTION!!!!!!!!!!! GET YOUR ASSES IN GEAR!!! STOP TALKING ABOUT CANOOS, START BUILDING CANOOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would be good if they made a version that had a tall roof so people could walk in and out with ease without crouching to get inside it make manual handling inside the vehicle much more faster and productive thats the only really downside apart from that it looks like a good product for uk roads
This has been thought about. Particularly the manual handling element - the vehicle is quite adaptable 👍
@electricvanman thats amazing this would be great for the uk market i can only think of ease of getting in and out the vehicle without bending as its bad for the back especially for the business use intended for these vehicles great work buy the company
HUD tells you what gear you are in?? F or R any more??
P … what more do you need?
So battery chemistry? Charge rate?
Panasonic Batteries which I believe are LFP and 150kw DC (11kw AC I think)
Cute van, but I wouldn’t wanna get into an accident in one of them. Tesla will be releasing their van in the next year or so and I’d much rather wait for Tesla quality over canoo experimentation.
The quality bar is high with this Van! Tesla should have done a Van ages ago!!
Is there a press release from Royal Mail about this new deal?
There is no “deal” with Royal Mail that has been done
when is it being shipped to the UK?
It will likely hit the market properly in 2025. There will be some to view at company Car in action in June.
How much for the swb your testing. Thanks
We do not have UK pricing yet.
When will it be on the market?
It will likely hit the UK market in 2025
Can the 190 take a pallet load?
For sure!
As much as I like the Canoo concept....... Just what the UK PO need. French PO have been using e-tricycles for years. But......
That square wheel. How do you spin the wheel in 3 point turns with buttons where your hand goes? And anyway, it probably only works on the corners and only 2 of them. And does lock-lock ratio on the steer by wire actually change with speed? Fast action at fast speed is not what is needed.
The lock to lock is much shorter so you don’t need to spin the wheel. It is like steering a go kart and the steering response is instant. There is a short familiarisation period but you soon get used to it!
@@electricvanman you haven't seen how my girlfriend drives! Farmer's daughter, learned on tractors with deadzone in the centre. She is not alone! Tesla opted for variable rate tied to speed. Go Kart driving is not a good example.
200miles.. not enough range. I need 350 at least. 200 miles, I can't get from Leeds to Cramlington and back or Leeds to Huntingdon and back. normal distances for me. plus, diversions etc.
How much is that going to cost?
Fewer parts, not less parts.
I am quite sure you are correct 👍
But what sort of a price ?
The one thing I thought when you got into the US version was how much wasted space at the front! Wow.
Well when you consider the fact that this can become useable space vs the space that is entirely lost under the bonnet of many an electric Van!
@@electricvanman and yet they have so much space in front of the driver instead of in the payload bay behind.
@@SirHackaL0t. there are often safety requirements that force manufacturers to have space in front of the driver. I am not sure why in this case but it would be my guess