Regarding DTS support on Blu-ray and UHD discs... the Sonos Arc supports multichannel LPCM audio. So if your TV is equipped with HDMI eARC or you have the HD Fury Arcana, you can set your Blu-ray or UHD player to convert DTS to PCM and you should get lossless multichannel PCM audio to play out of your Sonos Arc which sounds just as good as DTS-HD Master Audio.
Thanks so much for the contribution. I realised shortly after upload I should have mentioned this but thanks for pointing this out as it's a great update! I will pin your comment so other people can see.
Some of the most popular high end bluray players like the Panasonic UB820 / 9000 can't actually output LPCM to some of the most popular high end TV's like the LGC9 / CX due to a HDMI handshake issue. The best you can get out of these is Stereo PCM which is then passed though to the ARC. The HD-Fury Arcana is a band aid for this issue be it a $200 band aid. Hopefully the manufacturers of these devices can somehow correct this issue, or better yet Sonos can support DTS.
@@smarthomesounds thank you i really apreciate it i have been with this doubt since the first time i have the sonos arc when i realize that i cannot play atmos bec my tv doesnt support it and some say that hd fury arcan can solve it but im not sure if it will function in only native apps like netflix directly to the tv without using a external box like apple tv thank you so much
@@juanvalera7272 The HD Fury Arcana will only allow external media devices to bypass your TV's audio limitations. So if you cannot get Atmos from your TV's native Netflix app now, you will still not be able to get it with the Arcana. But the Arcana works great with the Sonos Arc. I am using an Apple TV 4K, Roku Ultra, and Panasonic UB820 UHD player and I can get Dolby Atmos from all three devices because of the Arcana. And my Panasonic Plasma is 8 years old.
@@asmrpages6657 If I am using Plex on my Shield Pro to feed my Arc, can I use the Arcana in between to give me surround with DTS audio? I have a ton of DTS audio files (as well as lots of Atmos ones) so it would be worth having this box if it gives me that capability.
Hello something that happened to me was I had to change the cable that came with the sonos arc. I changed it for a HDMI 2.1 and now my tv recognize the sonos arc as a Atmos sound bar. Very important***!!!☀️
Another very informative and well answered video - thank you for that 1 -- I would like to add my thoughts and my experience with Sonos - I started with just a sonos beam paired with my LG 55inch OLED and was very pleased - then upgraded and went to a 65 inch OLED . when the Arc was realised by sonos I waited to see the reviews , eventually took the plunge & purchased it since then I have slowly added the sub and last month the rears complete with the dedicated SONOS stands -the upgrade was definitely costly but in my opinion 100% totally worth it . starting with just the Arc and slowly building up got better and better , my advice would be , - try to Demo the full system and see for your self the difference from just the Arc to the whole system i'm sure it will blow you away .. just this weekend we watched outside the wire on Netflix -WOW the rain storm scene was amazing my while room literally filled with the sound of the pouring rain from every speaker while the dialogue was pin sharp.!! you really must see and hear this clip to fully appreciate just how good it sounded . ALSO i am using the Arc with Sky Q with NO lip sync issues at all .
I'll definitely find that show and scene you're referring too.. unlike you I just dived right in and went the whole hog on the 5.1 sonos set up with the arc after watching the reviews from Jonathan. Absolutely agree whilst pricey well worth it. I'm excited about watching movies again.. just today I bought Hans Zimmer live in Prague, it's in atmos which I'm yet to upgrade the player and tv to, but as this moves down to 5.1 the sound is amazing, so clear and crispy. I also finally got my hands on my wife's I-phone today and did the trueplay calibration. Again the system went to another level!!! But be sure to give the Hans Zimmer concert a watch!!
@@stuartmills7481 great to hear mate. I always get worrier when making recommendations as people's taste can be different... I recently purchased the hdfury arcana and now I'm pushiout atmos bloody amazing!!!!
Reading the AV forums, so many people are having trouble with EARC handshake issues, dropouts, some manufacturers refusal to pass through LPCM, etc., it’s a wonder ANYONE gets this thing to work reliably.
I swapped my old sky q box to the newer HDR box (£25 upgrade) no lip sync issues compared to the old one. Regarding bluray DTS you can output LPCM to arc and let the player do the decoding I believe. I use xbox series x as a blu ray player and that outputs the dts signal as Dolby Atmos signal to the arc.
I also upgraded to the HDR box from Q silver and I still had the lip sync issues, the only way to resolve this was to change the hdmi audio out to normal and not Dolby digital or Dolby +, so looking forward to any update from either sky or Sonos
Had my Sonos Arc for 5months, been disappointing for me, I previously had a Samsung Q90r. Movies came alive with that soundbar, especially Atmos content. The ARC just sounds very underwhelming with a lot of content, can sound very tinny. Sonos need to release some upfiring rear speakers to give the ARC a bit help with the Atmos. I have a flat ceiling and have never heard any overhead effects. Also Sonos need to open up there app to let you control all the speaker sound levels, the amount of times I feel I need to up the centre channel to hear speech etc, even with speech enhancement on and truplayed.
I just wish these had Cast support to play directly from RUclips Music on my phone, if it's possible from Spotify it should be possible from any other service.
i currently have a Sony ST5000. I just received a my Sonos Arc to replace it. I did this because I have SONOS throughout my house, Garage and Backyard. Its a great system and I wanted to match it and also have the soundbar controlled through the app. My question is how do I attach multiple pieces of equipment that require an HDMI port? The ARC only has one port, and I have a Bluetooth player, Direct TV box, and a Firestick plugged into a HDMI port on the back of the SONY. I currently have Direct TV and a firestick for TV watching. Thank you
Hi there-having a lot of lip sync probs and significant audio delay with PS5 games. 4K blu rays working very well from PS5, just games. Sonos support weren’t and had no idea why...tried everything possible. No other lip sync issues with fire tv or tv app streaming.
I think it’s only an issue with cheaper TV models, seen some people on r/Sonos mention it. Personally I have no issues and my TV is a 2020 LG 4K HDR 75” TV, with eARC.
@@callumfrost8967 Yes, I have a 2019 Sony tv with e arc, the only issue I had was that I could not change back to the tv speakers from the arc ( not that you would want to ) but it turned out it was a Sony issue which was fixed with a recent update.
Great video, I bought an ARC based on your videos and also purchased a HD Fury Arcana for atmos support on my non eARC TV. Works perfectly! I think you should do a video on which scenes/demos from movies demonstrate atmos the best :)
Dean connoly hello sir my set up is same as yours but i dont have hd fury does it get atmos on native apps like netflix and amazon prime video?i mean without a sound box like APPLE TV?thank you in advance sir im also thinking in buying the arcana if it get atmos on netflix directly from the tv without APPLE TV..
I was about to send my Arc back due to the lip sync issues with my LG B7 but eventually sussed it out. It was just on Atmos movies on Netflix, Prime and Disney + when using my Apple TV 4K. If I watch directly from the apps on my TV the lip sync issues go away. No lip sync issues when watching Atmos content though on Apple’s own services ie Apple TV+ and iTunes.
Great video, thanks for taking the time to produce it. I'm thinking of slowly upgrading to the Sonos Arc system, and I already have wired in-ceiling speakers. My questions is would I be better investing in the Sonos Amp and using the n-ceiling speakers or does the Sonos work better with the One SL's for the surrounds? And if the in-ceilings are better should I invest in the Sonos in-ceiling speakers or will the ones currently installed be good enough? I believe you can only use the auto-tune function if you have the Sonos speakers. Again, many thanks.
Hello John, thank you for your comment and it's a great question. I wouldn't say the in-ceiling speakers necessarily do a better job than the One SLs but it is a slightly different experience as the sound is coming from above your head rather than at listening height. We tend to suggest just going for the One SLs as rears to save on the cost unless you really favour in-ceiling speakers for aesthetic purposes or if your sofa is in the middle of the room where finding space for speakers at the back may be difficult. Both do a great job though! Hope that helps
Not confident in Sonos fixing Sky Q lip sync issues anytime soon. Had this problem ever since the Beam came out. Excellent video. Are you confident that they will fix it?
The official wall mount certainly affected the sound quality for me. Dialogue tinny and empty sounding, like the arc was massively over compensating once wall mounted. Would recommend Peter Pee's video about this if anyone else having problems.
How about the huge volume difference when going from tv to music or visa versa. When I go to music can’t hear it ,have to turn volume way up.then when going back to tv it will blast you out of the place.
Another top video!! I wish you had store's in Australia!!! I know your intention was to answer questions but I know have a question after watching this. With the arc not being DTS compatible, when switching to the Dolby digital track, will this be 5.1 still?
Hi there, thanks for the comment. Yes this should still be 5.1 so you'll benefit from the surround channels however another person in the comments pointed out something I forgot to add to the video which is about the addition of LPCM back in November 2020 and that means as long as your TV has eARC, the Arc can use LPCM to give multichannel audio from DTS discs which sounds about as good as DTS. I hope this helps!
@@smarthomesounds cheers mate. I did see that comment about the upgrade in November. I'm currently limited to an arc only port on my TV. I'll check the specs for atmos and other capabilities but not confident.... the TV might need to have an "accident" so I can upgrade it.
I only have an Android phone and I've already downloaded the Sonos app in anticipation of buying this unit. If I create an account on the app and then use a friend's I Phone to use the True Play portion, will there be a conflict in accounts? Will his I Phone need to create a new account to connect to MY ARC sound bar?
Hi Jim, no this will be fine and we would actually recommend this. You can always toggle the Trueplay off & on with the your android device after Trueplaying with your friends iPhone which is good.
I have a sonos arc and sub and i dont plan on getting surrounds and im curious if i should run trueplay alone with the soundbar or both the arc and sub? thank you!
Hi great videos, any update on the Lip Sync issues between Sky Q and Sonos ARC soundbar? I'm interested in buying the system if this is not an issue. Many thanks
hello friend i would like some advice? i have money to buy either the sonos beam plus two sonos sl or the sonos arc alone, what do you recommend? thanks
Good video, I’m still not convinced of the atmos sound coming from the arc, I never really hear a soundstage above me, I have tru-played it 🤔, can anyone recommend a certain scene in a movie where it’s really apparent
Depends on the room you’re in, if your ceiling is slanted or very high then you won’t get the full effect. Try getting some dual Sonos One SL’s they make a big difference.
Yeah I agree, the atmos is still not convincing to me either with the ARC, hear much better Atmos from other sound bars. Sonos really need release some upfiring rears.
So, just to confirm, if I play 5.1 Dolby (Which is the vast majority of what I will listen too) the ARC will use all of the speakers to create a fuller surround sound. I know its not true Atmos but if I am going to drop the cash, I want it to use all of its drivers. I know that the Samsung & Sony Atmos bars will do this with the Surround setting.
I'm having issues with the atmos on my xbox one X. Delay is very noticeable even if I switch to dolby digital, dts, etc. Uncompressed stereo is the only safe choice. Any suggestions?
I Have a vaulted ceiling and I’m thinking a buying a sonos amp with in wall speakers instead of the Sonos Arc. Do you think it’s a good idear or should I still buy the Sonos Arc. I will also buy the Sonos Sub.
Hi Stephan, great question. The in-wall speakers with Sonos Amp are a great option if you prefer the built in aesthetic but still want to achieve top quality sound. You get a really nice wide soundstage with the in-wall speakers as you have a dedicated left and right but do note, you won't be able to get Atmos through the Amp, it's a maximum of Dolby Digital. The Amp offers a phantom centre channel though and does a great job of mixing the left and right channels to create a centre. If you don't mind having a soundbar and want to benefit from the latest Atmos codec, then the Arc would probably be the better option. Hope that helps!
I have a Sony 900e Bravia and it the Sonos app says I’m receiving Atmos from the movies anywhere app but my tv doesn’t support Atmos. Is this true Atmos or is it a glitch in the matrix.
Wow. I have quite a collection of bluray so this really is a no go for me. That took me by complete surprise to be honest. I think I will take the plunge on the sony hta9 and a sub upon release as they support dtsx. Do you think you will be reviewing those? Thank you for your videos.
Hi there, Sonos have just released an announcement that DTS support for Blu-rays will be coming to all Sonos TV speakers on Sonos S2 app very soon via a software update which is great news! We will certainly be reviewing more Sony products in the future though so stay tuned :)
I notice in the video you show the Sub placed horizontally to the wall -- I have my sub facing me, perpendicular to the television. Is this not the correct placement?
Hi Mike, I wouldn't worry too much about the placement as the Sub is non-directional so wherever you position the Sub, it shouldn't result in a difference in sound quality. The only think I would say is try to keep it away from the corners to reduce reverb. Hope that helps!
My Arc is on an eArc capable LG tv, and the lip sync is perfect on ALL apps except one: HD Homerun. So when I correct for that one, Netflix, Disney, Hulu, etc are now out of sync. This is unacceptable.
Hi I’ve got the arc, sub and two Sonos ones as surrounds. My question is about stands on the Sonos ones, are the official Sonos stands worth it or are the third party options worth considering?
Hi there, great question. The Sonos stands feel a little more sturdy and well-built than other manufacturers and the difference with these is the speaker sits at the front of the pole rather than the middle of the pole, which we see in other manufacturers, so that comes down to personal taste. However, other brands like Flexson and Nova do it well and these are options on our site that we feel offer a floor-standing solution at a fraction of the Sonos prices.
I’m confused why you didn’t sing about the newer Multi Channel PCM support that allows playback for DTS encoded discs? Firmware updates in November 2020 made it possible for E-ARC TV customers to run DTS encoded discs with full multi channel sound results. Personally I didn’t even have to change any settings but I am sure that part is manufacture and model dependent on each part of your signal chain. It’s like my 2020 Sony TV, 4K player and Sonos realise DTS is not possible, but multi channel PCM is and it just works automatically like magic and sounds really good too! No longer do my DTS discs play back in stereo. If the DTS disc is encoded in 7.1 the Sonos App tells me I am playing back in 7.1. Alternatively with DTS 5.1 the app will confirm I am playing back 5.1 sound. So the app might not label the sound play back as DTS but my ears tell me it sounds very good just like DTS 🙂 This development appears to benefit gamers too. See the link below to Reddit comments on the subject... www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/jrmtjq/122_includes_multichannel_pcm_out_now/?
Hi there, thanks very much for the contribution. You're absolutely right about the addition of LPCM and I made a bit of an oversight on this update so apologies about that. Thanks again for the input, appreciate it.
Is it possible to discern a difference between the lossy DD+ Atmos using the ARC connection( supported by tvs that are a few years old) vs the lossless TrueHD atmos using the latest eARC connection(on new tvs only) with the sonos home theater setup? (E.g. sonos arc, sub, two sonos one SLs). In other words, if you are getting atmos via DD+ on your tv with an ARC connection, is it worth upgrading your TV to get uncompromised dolby atmos with eARC components on newer tvs?
Sound quality and is it worth it questions are something only you as an individual can determine. It can also be very much dependent on your own room/environment. But in my opinion, objectively speaking, the true lossless versions through my full Sonos cinema setup with rear Play:5/Fives and sub are a clear level up. The DD+ derivative sounds good as does any digital surround experience, but the lossless version of playback REALLY comes alive. It’s like moving from a good HiFi to a great HiFi. But as I said, different rooms and maybe even different E-ARC TV’s could yield different results. No need to rush the E-ARC expense, but if you are into the world of HiFi, I am sure you will give yourself a BIG smile when you do upgrade :-) Plus you will be able to get multi channel surround sound from DTS discs something which I will comment separately about in the comments, as for some reason they totally missed this important change for E-ARC customers...
I think there’s definitely an improvement it’s difficult to explain but it’s just a much cleaner sound. If you only have an ARC TV I’d recommend a HD fury Arcana. It allows you to get lossless atmos without an eARC connection. I got one a few weeks ago and it works perfectly!
Hi. Loving your content on Sonos products, it's what led me to my current setup that totals 2 play 1, 2 play 5, one SL, one move, and an Arc. I do however have an incredibly annoying issue that neither Sonos nor Sony were able to find a solution for. I've paired my Arc with a Sony 65XH9077, and for the most part, it works excellent. There are however situations when I don't want to use the Arc but rather the TV's speakers, on account of actually being too loud at the lowest volume of 2. However, this is not possible. As soon as any content starts playing, the output is automatically switched back to the Arc, so unless I actually unplug the Arc from either HDMI or power outlet, I'm stuck with using it all the time. Sonos suggested I'd volume limit the Arc to about 65-70% so that volume goes lower, but I honestly feel that's not really a solution and I'd be really throwing away 30-35% of the product. Also having to use the mobile app for quiet mode is really not ideal, and really against the "no extra remote" concept of Sonos. Do you have any suggestions on how to "fix" this and be able to not use Arc without extra devices (such as a smartphone) or having to physically disconnect the Arc? Thank you!
Hi Nikkolai, the HD Fury Arcana can be picked up from online retailers. Not many sell it so it's only 1 or 2 but they can definitely be found online if you search for it. I hope that helps.
Hi buddy,,I’ve just set up my arc but not sure what sound I’m getting because when I go on the Sonos app,it’s not telling me,,it just says tv,,I’m on the bit where you are at 2:39 in your video
Hey mate, are you still having this issue? I was having it but seems a recent upgrade of either the app or arc fixed it for me. If you're still having the problem you can find the audio type in the app still you just have to navigate to settings > system > about my system and it show in the first bit of information if you scroll down a fraction.
@@jb7753 ni mate,,I’ve not got a sub yet just the arc and 2 ones,,ive noticed when I play some movies or play some music from the Amazon music app,,I’ve noticed the bass is really poor and it sounds like standard crappy standard tv speakers and I can hear the bass really struggling,,don’t no what I’m doing wrong
@@explorewithant8263 I'll have a tinker with mine today with the sub off and see what happens. What tv do you have? And what does the app say re: sound being output? PCM, Digital etc what is the source playing amazon music? Off the TV or Bluetooth from phone?
Hi Gaz, yes you can indeed but I wouldn't say they are necessary. The One SLs will do the job just fine unless you have a massive room! Hope that helps.
My friend has an arc and uses a pair of fives for his rears….along with two subs in his bedroom. He’s got one of them super duper LG CX OLED tvs too. He doesn’t have a huge room, Just a huge budget. The living room has B&W towers and center, my borrowed onkyo and sunfire xteq8, ATI 5ch and Sony projector. Makes Saturday night UFC fights more enjoyable.
Why would an audio company who has a home theater collection that supports lossless audio not support every audio format?? Lossy audio is not as good as lossless..
why would I want to purchase more of these expensive SONOS systems ? when like my first SONOS system after 8-10 years there not supported and rendered useless. Please convince me.
I have a vaulted ceiling and have done trueplay but to be honest Atmos is a waste of money especially if you look at how bad film producers are at adding the Atmos channel effects and ambiance. It would be nice if you could configured in ceiling speakers as Atmos channels and even better if Sonos actually created a set of wireless in ceiling speakers instead of the current solution.
Yeah I think it’s quite gimmick like unless you have the perfect box room at home for the relevant sound reflections. That said, I find the lossless playback through E-ARC in a full Sonos cinema setup with rear Play:5/Fives and sub(s) absolutely awesome in terms of clarity and power. It just comes alive sooo much more to my ears, in my room at least. If you hear a great surround experience that makes you smile then you know you’re happy with your investment. Always go separates and spend the big bucks if you really want all the gimmicks working at a professional level. Have fun with your movies 🙂
Unfortunately stock is very limited at the moment but we are due a handful in the next few weeks. We also offer a 6 year warranty for free if that helps ;-)
lmao can't support DTS because of licensing fees - jesus. Sonos should not consider their system home-theater oriented or theater driven as it can't support a blu-ray player nor DTS audio. That's going against a home-theater oriented system. we all know DTS has always had a higher bit-rate than Dolby since day one including DTS:X even if the audible difference is hard to discern between Atmos and DTS:X. Being a nerd, higher is better - take all that you can to make the best system.
Regarding DTS support on Blu-ray and UHD discs... the Sonos Arc supports multichannel LPCM audio. So if your TV is equipped with HDMI eARC or you have the HD Fury Arcana, you can set your Blu-ray or UHD player to convert DTS to PCM and you should get lossless multichannel PCM audio to play out of your Sonos Arc which sounds just as good as DTS-HD Master Audio.
Thanks so much for the contribution. I realised shortly after upload I should have mentioned this but thanks for pointing this out as it's a great update! I will pin your comment so other people can see.
Some of the most popular high end bluray players like the Panasonic UB820 / 9000 can't actually output LPCM to some of the most popular high end TV's like the LGC9 / CX due to a HDMI handshake issue. The best you can get out of these is Stereo PCM which is then passed though to the ARC. The HD-Fury Arcana is a band aid for this issue be it a $200 band aid. Hopefully the manufacturers of these devices can somehow correct this issue, or better yet Sonos can support DTS.
@@smarthomesounds thank you i really apreciate it i have been with this doubt since the first time i have the sonos arc when i realize that i cannot play atmos bec my tv doesnt support it and some say that hd fury arcan can solve it but im not sure if it will function in only native apps like netflix directly to the tv without using a external box like apple tv thank you so much
@@juanvalera7272 The HD Fury Arcana will only allow external media devices to bypass your TV's audio limitations. So if you cannot get Atmos from your TV's native Netflix app now, you will still not be able to get it with the Arcana. But the Arcana works great with the Sonos Arc. I am using an Apple TV 4K, Roku Ultra, and Panasonic UB820 UHD player and I can get Dolby Atmos from all three devices because of the Arcana. And my Panasonic Plasma is 8 years old.
@@asmrpages6657 If I am using Plex on my Shield Pro to feed my Arc, can I use the Arcana in between to give me surround with DTS audio? I have a ton of DTS audio files (as well as lots of Atmos ones) so it would be worth having this box if it gives me that capability.
Hello something that happened to me was I had to change the cable that came with the sonos arc. I changed it for a HDMI 2.1 and now my tv recognize the sonos arc as a Atmos sound bar. Very important***!!!☀️
Another very informative and well answered video - thank you for that 1 -- I would like to add my thoughts and my experience with Sonos - I started with just a sonos beam paired with my LG 55inch OLED and was very pleased - then upgraded and went to a 65 inch OLED . when the Arc was realised by sonos I waited to see the reviews , eventually took the plunge & purchased it since then I have slowly added the sub and last month the rears complete with the dedicated SONOS stands -the upgrade was definitely costly but in my opinion 100% totally worth it . starting with just the Arc and slowly building up got better and better , my advice would be , - try to Demo the full system and see for your self the difference from just the Arc to the whole system i'm sure it will blow you away .. just this weekend we watched outside the wire on Netflix -WOW the rain storm scene was amazing my while room literally filled with the sound of the pouring rain from every speaker while the dialogue was pin sharp.!! you really must see and hear this clip to fully appreciate just how good it sounded . ALSO i am using the Arc with Sky Q with NO lip sync issues at all .
I'll definitely find that show and scene you're referring too.. unlike you I just dived right in and went the whole hog on the 5.1 sonos set up with the arc after watching the reviews from Jonathan. Absolutely agree whilst pricey well worth it. I'm excited about watching movies again.. just today I bought Hans Zimmer live in Prague, it's in atmos which I'm yet to upgrade the player and tv to, but as this moves down to 5.1 the sound is amazing, so clear and crispy. I also finally got my hands on my wife's I-phone today and did the trueplay calibration. Again the system went to another level!!! But be sure to give the Hans Zimmer concert a watch!!
@@jb7753 I've Just ordered the Hans Zimmer concert from Amazon - Big thank you for the heads up !!
@@stuartmills7481 Hey Mate, how'd you go with the Hans Zimmer BD?
@@jb7753 Ohh its totally fantastic , I really love it - its now my go to Demo show off ! Every one that hear's it can't believe how good it is !
@@stuartmills7481 great to hear mate. I always get worrier when making recommendations as people's taste can be different... I recently purchased the hdfury arcana and now I'm pushiout atmos bloody amazing!!!!
Reading the AV forums, so many people are having trouble with EARC handshake issues, dropouts, some manufacturers refusal to pass through LPCM, etc., it’s a wonder ANYONE gets this thing to work reliably.
I swapped my old sky q box to the newer HDR box (£25 upgrade) no lip sync issues compared to the old one.
Regarding bluray DTS you can output LPCM to arc and let the player do the decoding I believe.
I use xbox series x as a blu ray player and that outputs the dts signal as Dolby Atmos signal to the arc.
I also upgraded to the HDR box from Q silver and I still had the lip sync issues, the only way to resolve this was to change the hdmi audio out to normal and not Dolby digital or Dolby +, so looking forward to any update from either sky or Sonos
Thanks for info on the New Sonos ARC Sound Bar Replacement for the Sonos Play bar
Had my Sonos Arc for 5months, been disappointing for me, I previously had a Samsung Q90r. Movies came alive with that soundbar, especially Atmos content. The ARC just sounds very underwhelming with a lot of content, can sound very tinny. Sonos need to release some upfiring rear speakers to give the ARC a bit help with the Atmos. I have a flat ceiling and have never heard any overhead effects.
Also Sonos need to open up there app to let you control all the speaker sound levels, the amount of times I feel I need to up the centre channel to hear speech etc, even with speech enhancement on and truplayed.
I just wish these had Cast support to play directly from RUclips Music on my phone, if it's possible from Spotify it should be possible from any other service.
i currently have a Sony ST5000. I just received a my Sonos Arc to replace it. I did this because I have SONOS throughout my house, Garage and Backyard. Its a great system and I wanted to match it and also have the soundbar controlled through the app.
My question is how do I attach multiple pieces of equipment that require an HDMI port? The ARC only has one port, and I have a Bluetooth player, Direct TV box, and a Firestick plugged into a HDMI port on the back of the SONY. I currently have Direct TV and a firestick for TV watching. Thank you
Hi there-having a lot of lip sync probs and significant audio delay with PS5 games. 4K blu rays working very well from PS5, just games. Sonos support weren’t and had no idea why...tried everything possible. No other lip sync issues with fire tv or tv app streaming.
I have the 2 tb sky q box and the arc, I have had no lip sync issues whatsoever.
I think it’s only an issue with cheaper TV models, seen some people on r/Sonos mention it. Personally I have no issues and my TV is a 2020 LG 4K HDR 75” TV, with eARC.
@@callumfrost8967 Yes, I have a 2019 Sony tv with e arc, the only issue I had was that I could not change back to the tv speakers from the arc ( not that you would want to ) but it turned out it was a Sony issue which was fixed with a recent update.
@@callumfrost8967 same here no issues at all. Perfect combo. Along with my Xbox series X
When I had Sky I had a minor lip sync issue. It was noticeable to be annoying for me. My TV is a LG C8.
Thanks for that . You've answered a lot of the questions I had
Great video, I bought an ARC based on your videos and also purchased a HD Fury Arcana for atmos support on my non eARC TV. Works perfectly!
I think you should do a video on which scenes/demos from movies demonstrate atmos the best :)
Dean connoly hello sir my set up is same as yours but i dont have hd fury does it get atmos on native apps like netflix and amazon prime video?i mean without a sound box like APPLE TV?thank you in advance sir im also thinking in buying the arcana if it get atmos on netflix directly from the tv without APPLE TV..
@@juanvalera7272 Hi, it doesn’t work on native apps unfortunately you do need to pass a HDMI device through it for it to work
I get Atmos via my LG B7 OLED but not lossless. I assume it’s not really worth the cost and hassle of getting the Fury Arcana?
I was about to send my Arc back due to the lip sync issues with my LG B7 but eventually sussed it out. It was just on Atmos movies on Netflix, Prime and Disney + when using my Apple TV 4K. If I watch directly from the apps on my TV the lip sync issues go away. No lip sync issues when watching Atmos content though on Apple’s own services ie Apple TV+ and iTunes.
Great video! Btw...the wooden wall behind the tv...where and how? Thank you:)
Great video, thanks for taking the time to produce it. I'm thinking of slowly upgrading to the Sonos Arc system, and I already have wired in-ceiling speakers. My questions is would I be better investing in the Sonos Amp and using the n-ceiling speakers or does the Sonos work better with the One SL's for the surrounds? And if the in-ceilings are better should I invest in the Sonos in-ceiling speakers or will the ones currently installed be good enough? I believe you can only use the auto-tune function if you have the Sonos speakers. Again, many thanks.
Hello John, thank you for your comment and it's a great question. I wouldn't say the in-ceiling speakers necessarily do a better job than the One SLs but it is a slightly different experience as the sound is coming from above your head rather than at listening height. We tend to suggest just going for the One SLs as rears to save on the cost unless you really favour in-ceiling speakers for aesthetic purposes or if your sofa is in the middle of the room where finding space for speakers at the back may be difficult. Both do a great job though! Hope that helps
@@smarthomesounds Thanks for the reply, and yes it has answered my question. I'll progress up to the One SL's.
Sonos arc sound output louder than JBL 5.1 surround sound bar?
Not confident in Sonos fixing Sky Q lip sync issues anytime soon. Had this problem ever since the Beam came out. Excellent video. Are you confident that they will fix it?
Great information as always! Thank you.
Expecting dedicated upward firing rear speakers for Sonos arc instead of SL,is this possible???
Hopefully we see this in the future!
You can get surround with dts by letting your blueray player converting it to lpcm.
Can you advise if the sky Q/ Sonos lip sync issue been resolved as of December 2022?
Does the sonos arc support Samsung Q Symphony??
The official wall mount certainly affected the sound quality for me. Dialogue tinny and empty sounding, like the arc was massively over compensating once wall mounted. Would recommend Peter Pee's video about this if anyone else having problems.
Great review, Thank you!
I’m considering if I should upgrade from my playbase to arc, even without a ATMOS supported TV. What do you think?
How about the huge volume difference when going from tv to music or visa versa. When I go to music can’t hear it ,have to turn volume way up.then when going back to tv it will blast you out of the place.
Another top video!! I wish you had store's in Australia!!! I know your intention was to answer questions but I know have a question after watching this. With the arc not being DTS compatible, when switching to the Dolby digital track, will this be 5.1 still?
Hi there, thanks for the comment. Yes this should still be 5.1 so you'll benefit from the surround channels however another person in the comments pointed out something I forgot to add to the video which is about the addition of LPCM back in November 2020 and that means as long as your TV has eARC, the Arc can use LPCM to give multichannel audio from DTS discs which sounds about as good as DTS. I hope this helps!
@@smarthomesounds cheers mate. I did see that comment about the upgrade in November. I'm currently limited to an arc only port on my TV. I'll check the specs for atmos and other capabilities but not confident.... the TV might need to have an "accident" so I can upgrade it.
@@jb7753 My LG only has ARC and the WEB OS apps produce ATMOS (at least the Apple TV+ app), No go for the Apple TV4k though.
@@SafariNZ interesting.... I'll have to do some trials over the weekend with the TV based apps. Cheers mate 👍
I only have an Android phone and I've already downloaded the Sonos app in anticipation of buying this unit. If I create an account on the app and then use a friend's I Phone to use the True Play portion, will there be a conflict in accounts? Will his I Phone need to create a new account to connect to MY ARC sound bar?
Hi Jim, no this will be fine and we would actually recommend this. You can always toggle the Trueplay off & on with the your android device after Trueplaying with your friends iPhone which is good.
I have a sonos arc and sub and i dont plan on getting surrounds and im curious if i should run trueplay alone with the soundbar or both the arc and sub? thank you!
My 77" lg doesnot give sound to the arc.hours online with support from Sonos,but no succes.
System plays sonos radio,but not tv sound.What can I do?
Hi great videos, any update on the Lip Sync issues between Sky Q and Sonos ARC soundbar? I'm interested in buying the system if this is not an issue. Many thanks
I had exactly the same issues.... solution... download and update the latest software onto the Sky Q box..... end of problem !
Ikea Symfonisk sounds great as surround speakers at half of the price compared to “real” sonos speakers.
Does it work with PC?
How can i connect with PC (Video card 3080)?
hello friend i would like some advice? i have money to buy either the sonos beam plus two sonos sl or the sonos arc alone, what do you recommend? thanks
So, has the sky Q syncing issue been fixed yet?
Good video, I’m still not convinced of the atmos sound coming from the arc, I never really hear a soundstage above me, I have tru-played it 🤔, can anyone recommend a certain scene in a movie where it’s really apparent
Depends on the room you’re in, if your ceiling is slanted or very high then you won’t get the full effect. Try getting some dual Sonos One SL’s they make a big difference.
Getting surrounds definitely help. And then turn your TV level to +5 or 7 in the Sonos app
Try Jack Ryan, Season 1. The very first scene has jets flying overhead and dropping bombs. Its pretty dramatic.
@@steveodian6008 cheers 🍻 I’ll give it a go
Yeah I agree, the atmos is still not convincing to me either with the ARC, hear much better Atmos from other sound bars. Sonos really need release some upfiring rears.
So, just to confirm, if I play 5.1 Dolby (Which is the vast majority of what I will listen too) the ARC will use all of the speakers to create a fuller surround sound. I know its not true Atmos but if I am going to drop the cash, I want it to use all of its drivers. I know that the Samsung & Sony Atmos bars will do this with the Surround setting.
Hi Jason, Yes thats correct. Thanks for watching.
@@smarthomesounds thanks for the reply. I can't understand why others I have asked say otherwise.
I'm having issues with the atmos on my xbox one X. Delay is very noticeable even if I switch to dolby digital, dts, etc. Uncompressed stereo is the only safe choice. Any suggestions?
I Have a vaulted ceiling and I’m thinking a buying a sonos amp with in wall speakers instead of the Sonos Arc. Do you think it’s a good idear or should I still buy the Sonos Arc. I will also buy the Sonos Sub.
Hi Stephan, great question. The in-wall speakers with Sonos Amp are a great option if you prefer the built in aesthetic but still want to achieve top quality sound. You get a really nice wide soundstage with the in-wall speakers as you have a dedicated left and right but do note, you won't be able to get Atmos through the Amp, it's a maximum of Dolby Digital. The Amp offers a phantom centre channel though and does a great job of mixing the left and right channels to create a centre. If you don't mind having a soundbar and want to benefit from the latest Atmos codec, then the Arc would probably be the better option. Hope that helps!
I have a Sony 900e Bravia and it the Sonos app says I’m receiving Atmos from the movies anywhere app but my tv doesn’t support Atmos. Is this true Atmos or is it a glitch in the matrix.
Wow. I have quite a collection of bluray so this really is a no go for me. That took me by complete surprise to be honest. I think I will take the plunge on the sony hta9 and a sub upon release as they support dtsx. Do you think you will be reviewing those? Thank you for your videos.
Hi there, Sonos have just released an announcement that DTS support for Blu-rays will be coming to all Sonos TV speakers on Sonos S2 app very soon via a software update which is great news! We will certainly be reviewing more Sony products in the future though so stay tuned :)
@@smarthomesounds Thats fantastic news. The ARC is my first choice. TY
I notice in the video you show the Sub placed horizontally to the wall -- I have my sub facing me, perpendicular to the television. Is this not the correct placement?
Hi Mike, I wouldn't worry too much about the placement as the Sub is non-directional so wherever you position the Sub, it shouldn't result in a difference in sound quality. The only think I would say is try to keep it away from the corners to reduce reverb. Hope that helps!
@@smarthomesounds Okay, thanks
My Arc is on an eArc capable LG tv, and the lip sync is perfect on ALL apps except one: HD Homerun. So when I correct for that one, Netflix, Disney, Hulu, etc are now out of sync. This is unacceptable.
Hi I’ve got the arc, sub and two Sonos ones as surrounds. My question is about stands on the Sonos ones, are the official Sonos stands worth it or are the third party options worth considering?
Hi there, great question. The Sonos stands feel a little more sturdy and well-built than other manufacturers and the difference with these is the speaker sits at the front of the pole rather than the middle of the pole, which we see in other manufacturers, so that comes down to personal taste. However, other brands like Flexson and Nova do it well and these are options on our site that we feel offer a floor-standing solution at a fraction of the Sonos prices.
I’m confused why you didn’t sing about the newer Multi Channel PCM support that allows playback for DTS encoded discs? Firmware updates in November 2020 made it possible for E-ARC TV customers to run DTS encoded discs with full multi channel sound results. Personally I didn’t even have to change any settings but I am sure that part is manufacture and model dependent on each part of your signal chain. It’s like my 2020 Sony TV, 4K player and Sonos realise DTS is not possible, but multi channel PCM is and it just works automatically like magic and sounds really good too! No longer do my DTS discs play back in stereo. If the DTS disc is encoded in 7.1 the Sonos App tells me I am playing back in 7.1. Alternatively with DTS 5.1 the app will confirm I am playing back 5.1 sound. So the app might not label the sound play back as DTS but my ears tell me it sounds very good just like DTS 🙂 This development appears to benefit gamers too. See the link below to Reddit comments on the subject...
www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/jrmtjq/122_includes_multichannel_pcm_out_now/?
Hi there, thanks very much for the contribution. You're absolutely right about the addition of LPCM and I made a bit of an oversight on this update so apologies about that. Thanks again for the input, appreciate it.
Is it possible to discern a difference between the lossy DD+ Atmos using the ARC connection( supported by tvs that are a few years old) vs the lossless TrueHD atmos using the latest eARC connection(on new tvs only) with the sonos home theater setup? (E.g. sonos arc, sub, two sonos one SLs). In other words, if you are getting atmos via DD+ on your tv with an ARC connection, is it worth upgrading your TV to get uncompromised dolby atmos with eARC components on newer tvs?
Sound quality and is it worth it questions are something only you as an individual can determine. It can also be very much dependent on your own room/environment. But in my opinion, objectively speaking, the true lossless versions through my full Sonos cinema setup with rear Play:5/Fives and sub are a clear level up. The DD+ derivative sounds good as does any digital surround experience, but the lossless version of playback REALLY comes alive. It’s like moving from a good HiFi to a great HiFi. But as I said, different rooms and maybe even different E-ARC TV’s could yield different results. No need to rush the E-ARC expense, but if you are into the world of HiFi, I am sure you will give yourself a BIG smile when you do upgrade :-) Plus you will be able to get multi channel surround sound from DTS discs something which I will comment separately about in the comments, as for some reason they totally missed this important change for E-ARC customers...
I think there’s definitely an improvement it’s difficult to explain but it’s just a much cleaner sound.
If you only have an ARC TV I’d recommend a HD fury Arcana. It allows you to get lossless atmos without an eARC connection. I got one a few weeks ago and it works perfectly!
Netflix dialogue is softer at time, can it increase volume just for dialogue tone ?
Yes, the Arc has a Speech Enhancement feature so will enhance the vocals of the content you are watching. Very useful feature for that purpose!
Can I play a turntable through the src
Hi. Loving your content on Sonos products, it's what led me to my current setup that totals 2 play 1, 2 play 5, one SL, one move, and an Arc. I do however have an incredibly annoying issue that neither Sonos nor Sony were able to find a solution for. I've paired my Arc with a Sony 65XH9077, and for the most part, it works excellent. There are however situations when I don't want to use the Arc but rather the TV's speakers, on account of actually being too loud at the lowest volume of 2. However, this is not possible. As soon as any content starts playing, the output is automatically switched back to the Arc, so unless I actually unplug the Arc from either HDMI or power outlet, I'm stuck with using it all the time. Sonos suggested I'd volume limit the Arc to about 65-70% so that volume goes lower, but I honestly feel that's not really a solution and I'd be really throwing away 30-35% of the product. Also having to use the mobile app for quiet mode is really not ideal, and really against the "no extra remote" concept of Sonos. Do you have any suggestions on how to "fix" this and be able to not use Arc without extra devices (such as a smartphone) or having to physically disconnect the Arc? Thank you!
Good video! Where can I get a HD Fury Arcana?
Hi Nikkolai, the HD Fury Arcana can be picked up from online retailers. Not many sell it so it's only 1 or 2 but they can definitely be found online if you search for it. I hope that helps.
Great info. Could I use two Sonos Play:1 as surrounds?
Yes, that is possible :)
@@smarthomesounds thanks for replying. Subscribed!
Hi buddy,,I’ve just set up my arc but not sure what sound I’m getting because when I go on the Sonos app,it’s not telling me,,it just says tv,,I’m on the bit where you are at 2:39 in your video
Hey mate, are you still having this issue? I was having it but seems a recent upgrade of either the app or arc fixed it for me. If you're still having the problem you can find the audio type in the app still you just have to navigate to settings > system > about my system and it show in the first bit of information if you scroll down a fraction.
@@jb7753 hi,,yea the new update says it now,,just added 2 ones but it’s struggling for base on most stuff
@@explorewithant8263 do you mean struggling for bass sound out of the sub?
@@jb7753 ni mate,,I’ve not got a sub yet just the arc and 2 ones,,ive noticed when I play some movies or play some music from the Amazon music app,,I’ve noticed the bass is really poor and it sounds like standard crappy standard tv speakers and I can hear the bass really struggling,,don’t no what I’m doing wrong
@@explorewithant8263 I'll have a tinker with mine today with the sub off and see what happens. What tv do you have? And what does the app say re: sound being output? PCM, Digital etc what is the source playing amazon music? Off the TV or Bluetooth from phone?
Can you use play 5 speakers as rear speakers?
Hi Gaz, yes you can indeed but I wouldn't say they are necessary. The One SLs will do the job just fine unless you have a massive room! Hope that helps.
My friend has an arc and uses a pair of fives for his rears….along with two subs in his bedroom. He’s got one of them super duper LG CX OLED tvs too. He doesn’t have a huge room, Just a huge budget.
The living room has B&W towers and center, my borrowed onkyo and sunfire xteq8, ATI 5ch and Sony projector. Makes Saturday night UFC fights more enjoyable.
Can you help me to get one in India ?
Anybody else have issues with their Arc cutting in and out periodically?
Does the Philips Hue sync box works perfectly in combination with the sonos arc ? Thanks for the answer.
Yes it does for my tv with the apple tv4k the arc and the hue sync box you may need to get a good hdmi cable that is made for eArc.
Why would an audio company who has a home theater collection that supports lossless audio not support every audio format?? Lossy audio is not as good as lossless..
Try Roger Waters “Us and Them” on Atmos. Blimey, the bombs are real! Any chance to put Floyd on🤣 I’ve not heard anything from above yet though.
why would I want to purchase more of these expensive SONOS systems ? when like my first SONOS system after 8-10 years there not supported and rendered useless. Please convince me.
I have a vaulted ceiling and have done trueplay but to be honest Atmos is a waste of money especially if you look at how bad film producers are at adding the Atmos channel effects and ambiance. It would be nice if you could configured in ceiling speakers as Atmos channels and even better if Sonos actually created a set of wireless in ceiling speakers instead of the current solution.
Yeah I think it’s quite gimmick like unless you have the perfect box room at home for the relevant sound reflections. That said, I find the lossless playback through E-ARC in a full Sonos cinema setup with rear Play:5/Fives and sub(s) absolutely awesome in terms of clarity and power. It just comes alive sooo much more to my ears, in my room at least. If you hear a great surround experience that makes you smile then you know you’re happy with your investment. Always go separates and spend the big bucks if you really want all the gimmicks working at a professional level. Have fun with your movies 🙂
I can't stand when anyone is talking about borrowing a apple device, like sonos should by now be compatible with some android devices
EXACTLY
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I want an arc but Curry's have sold out.
Unfortunately stock is very limited at the moment but we are due a handful in the next few weeks. We also offer a 6 year warranty for free if that helps ;-)
Who’s still watching a lot of blu rays ?
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lmao can't support DTS because of licensing fees - jesus. Sonos should not consider their system home-theater oriented or theater driven as it can't support a blu-ray player nor DTS audio. That's going against a home-theater oriented system.
we all know DTS has always had a higher bit-rate than Dolby since day one including DTS:X even if the audible difference is hard to discern between Atmos and DTS:X. Being a nerd, higher is better - take all that you can to make the best system.