Just spit balling here, but I think the next give away should include a hunt with Brandon, what do you guys think?? Hit a thumbs up if you think he should!!!
I'm trying to get a good pig place to hunt in Alabama. If I can get one I'd totally be up for taking people. I may try to organize a 3D shoot in Nashville in the early spring as well.
I really appreciate your approach and thought process. I have been into archery for about 8 months now, so the timing of your information in perfect. Thank you thank you thank you.
I'm finally getting my Revolt X set up so I re-watched this video again as I shop for stabilizers. Even on the second viewing... still a great video. Useful information and a few chuckles along the way. Thank you (again) for the service and education you are providing us. Your efforts are greatly appreciated!
Ok, got rid of my sight and went with Black gold and now I am running with Cutter 12” out front 10” out back, love these stabilizers!!! Pull my pack/bow up into my stand, 25’ up with the self climber, pull out my sight slide it on, pull out the cutters pop them on and I am good to go. Thanks for always trying new gear for our benefit!!!!
I’ve found that the weight*Arm(length)=Moment formula has come in pretty handy in the archery world. Whether it’s calculating the rear stabilizer weight, or determining what the FOC would be if I added a larger broadhead.
Great explanation of stabilization! I think this is the most mis-understood equipment in archery. I spend more time explaining this than anything in my archery shop. I have noticed the best weight distribution to achieve the most stabilization is a ratio of 2-3 times the weight on the back bar vs. the front bar. 90% of the VXR's we have setup have been on average of 6-9 oz. on back bar and 2-5 oz. on front bar. I'm also using the same size 15" front bar and 12" back bar on my personal setup. We have been primarily using Bee Stinger bars but I will check out the Cutters. Great video man........keep on keeping on!
@@brandonmcdonald6121 One thing I do is hang my bow from an overhead hook from the top cam and look at my sight bubble. I will swing my back bar in and out and add weight to get that bubble in line. Of course, this is only accurate if your third axis is set correctly.
Man i watched so many videos abt trye stabilization and you always hear “its a feel thing” (which is true) but no breaks it down like that! Man you give some awesome content and i LOVE how you give measurements and statistics for actual feed back! You can tell you take alot of you personal time to help others which is amazing esp for all of us archers/bowhunters! I would love to see you have your on TV show one day! Great content brother GREAT CONTENT!
Brandon Mcdonald - im honored you read my comment out loud! Let her know you have helped MANY and your videos are game changing and the way you make them! You can tell your truly committed and a true archer/bowhunter!!! Thank again man and ill always be a subscriber!!!!
The Conquest Smackdown Pro .500 is as close to what your wanting . I haven't seen a set that thin and that stiff. Thin as a sharpie marker and stiff as the blue pill! The are pricey but I love them... Great video all things I do as well. Weight is heavy unless its balanced.
...ugh.... where was this video 3 weeks ago. I just bought a stabilizer because I was getting quite a bit of sway issues at longer ranges (70 yards). I did get a longer stabilizer and it does help... but im wishing I went to a longer one yet. The way you've explained the sway switching between bars is exactly what my issues are. Another awesome good dry humored video. Some of the best content around. Not much for visual stimulation because its most shots of you speaking, but with the actual meat content keeps me hooked.
if you don't have a back bar I highly recommend getting a back bar before making your front bar any longer. I think it'll probably make a big difference
Best video I have seen on stabilizers. Well timed because I have been messing with mine just before hunting season. Pro tip: always mess with as much of your dialed in bow setup just before you leave hunting. Equipment confidence is overrated. 😂
First time I’ve ever really and truly understood why stabilizers work. That magnet demonstration was clutch. Guess I’m buying a longer front and a new rear stabilizer. Thanks? Haha
I never really considered the back bar to be so pivotal in terms of bow balance. One thing you could have touched on with the back bar is the angle too. If folks arent the biggest fans of stacking weight back there to better balance, changing the angle to be a bit more protruding also affects the bows balance. Good stuff, will be checking out Cutter Stabs!
True. I think I will talk a little bit more about it in a quick video that I'm going to do soon where I talk about my actual hunting setup. I felt like a video was already getting so long!
@@brandonmcdonald6121 I enjoy the longer videos, but I'm sure analytics say you're in the sweet spot for duration. Ordered my back mount after this video. Excited to play with it. Chat next video!
Great vid. I also watched that vid that Levi had put out. I just got a VXR a month or so ago, and when I put the tight spot on it, it immediately fell over to the right. I put a Bee Stinger on the front with 1 oz and a back bar with 4 oz. the back was moved out two notches and down 3. Sits pretty much dead straight up and down but I am no where near as capable a shot as you. Keep the vids coming.
Brandon Mcdonald I have a regular detachable Mathews one and it works good upside down. Can take it off in the tree. Not sure about the tight spot. Never looked into it
I can tell at full draw that it's unquestionably a fact that I need a back bar with a front bar just so I'm not using my muscles to influence the pin to stay on target 💯
I can honestly say I look forward to Brandon's videos more than any other RUclips videos. I know it's gonna be instructional, I know the video and audio will be top notch and most of all I know I will be spending more money...LOL!! BTW Brandon I received my brand new Traverse last week and I can not believe how great this bow is. Now the decision needs to be made if I will hunt with the VXR 28, VXR 31.5 or the Traverse? The draw on the Traverse is some very special and holds like a stone just like the 31.5. No wonder this bow was such a sleeper last year!!
Thanks for the compliment. I've got my traverse turned down to 66 lbs and the draw is so dang nice. Still love shooting that bow. Have one of the ultraview grips coming to try it out. We will see how that goes.
Yeah, that's a great idea. That back mount I've got was almost $200! It'll be tough for them to make something that's actually a adjustable in the rear.
Also how is the dampening in the cutters? They look solid. I will give them a look. Love when every day people make something nice to find a niche in a market they love just because. If you can make a living out of it, that's the dream!
Thoughts on the quivalizer then Brandon? For the exact reasons you brought up, lighter weight, more weight being farther out at front. I absolutely love mine. Significantly lightened up my load
I've never tried one but since you can adjust it from horizontal to vertical I can see why it would be useful. The only issue is if it's windy and you want the stabilization you've basically got a giant sail on the front of your bow. The crappy thing about where I live is we are down in the valley so I don't get much wind here to test archery gear!
Had a look at Cutters website, couldn't find the diameter of their stabilisers. I shoot target and use Atomic Rods - Alpha Series stabilisers. 1/2 inch diameter, Ultra high modulus carbon, Ultra stiff and light.
I'd love to see your review on a front and rear stabilizer setup from crossroads archery the crossover stabilizers look awesome im on a budget so haven't purchased a set yet but just a thought. Love your videos! Thanks
Rewatching this again. This year I'll get my bow balanced. Since I knew any added weight was a good thing for stability, I threaded some chunks of steel and slapped them on... After a year of shooting, I weighed them. The front weight is 16oz on a 10" Octane bar.. The chunk I bolted on the bottom riser hole was 18oz!!! Severely front heavy setup... I'll get it right, with your help. Everyone I ask says the weight you use is "personal preference". AKA: I can't help you. Finally at Big Sky I had a guy to give recommendations... He said take all that weight off and just use 6oz out front. That should be my starting point. What say you?
Great vid 👌 I have a 12" cutter in the front and a 10 incher for the back. Great set up I now have, my bow shoots🎯nice pimped out with cutter stabilizers . Also great customer service, Earl gave me good advice via messenger on my set up😃
Are you still running cutters ? If so long term thoughts? Was considering cutters or Axcel antler ridge on my new set up (Mach 30 ds)… You already helped my decision on the uv slider so I’d love your opinion. Thanks
I’ll never shoot without a back bar again. Also it must be properly weighted. I do the whole close my eyes deal and check the bubble and it’s night and day difference.
Hey Brandon I am from Bowling Green Kentucky just north of Nashville and I am looking for a good bow shop that will allow me to shoot all of the major brands in one place so I can find which one fits me the best any suggestions. We have a good Mathews and PSE dealer in Bowling Green. Thanks and love the channel.
Brandon, good video. The improvement in accuracy from the 6 and 8 inch setup and the 10 and 12 was much more significant than the improvement from that to the 12 and 15. Would have liked a little more information on the difference there and if you think that the diminishing returns are worth the extra length and why. Great stuff and thanks.
I like the 15 because when I'm out in the woods hunting I can lean it against a tree in a way that my scope isn't touching the ground. Since I'm tall I can also tuck it under my arm in a way that the bow kind of wedges itself in my armpit and hold the end of the stabilizer with the 15. I think the biggest takeaway for me was getting up to at least 12 in on that front bar
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Thank you again for the information. BTW - I was tweaking my Hoyt (new strings, timing, etc) and I went into the local shop and shot the Mathews (mistake #1). My Hoyt is now hanging in the shop for sale and I am hunting with the VXR this year. It truly is an amazing bow thanks for your info on the bows for this year. I am learning a lot from you.
I wonder how much of the experience was a placebo affect, compared to actuality. Wifey should have put a random set up on, blindfolded you and had you draw then pull the blind fold off to shoot. I'd like to see the results then. Great older video I enjoyed revisiting...
Would be an interesting test. Ive been messing with bars on the news bows again this year and still feel like the biggest jump is from 10 to 12, but I really like running a 15
He was super excited and thankful..I'll try and get him on a call this week and post the video. Young guy with a bear bow. Whisker biscuit and no stabs. It'll be a great upgrade for him.
I have the vxr as well and I love the bow. Could you tell me exactly what you ordered from cutter. Would like to try the same setup as you. I’m also the same draw length and have the 31.5. Thanks and I really like your channel! 👍🏼👍🏼
Brandon you should check out Quattro Archery and their stabilizers. They are a lot bigger than the cutters but what Hanno is doing is super impressive. So far from what little but I’ve messaged him he is a super great guy. Company is based out of South Africa.
What’s the lengths of your stabilizers? And what weights are you running? I’m gonna pick some up but I wanna know a ballpark of how much weight to get.
I've got 12 oz total right now. 3 out front and 9 in the back. I think I've settled on a 15" front and an 8" back but with longer narrow weights so it's probably more like a 10"
Hi Brandon! Great video...as always! My question is at what length is the stabilizer not “worth it?” 10F/8R stabile enough generally speaking or is the incremental gain better to comfortably go to 12F/10 or 8R? Is a 6” rear even worth it?
Brandon I have a pretty good stabilizer set up I thought 10” front and 8” back. I recently just bought the VXR and I’m still wondering a lot. What do u recommend. I do like the Cutter system
@@brandonmcdonald6121 well it’s to late. You convinced me to buy a 12 and 10 cutter system. I emailed the company to see about shipping to Canada. The owner email me back right away. Awesome service. He assured me my picks will help a lot. Please hurry and put the third video out on arrows. We’re getting impatient
Good video ... again. I am playing with stabilizers as well with my 31.5, NTN, and Mach 1. What weight on each did you end up feeling the best with on your VXR?
What weight did you need on the 15" front and the 12" back to balance your VXR 31.5? Also, do you think you'll get to your Traverse vs. VXR shoot off before Mathews discontinues the Traverse? I'm hoping for a VXR 33 or 35 this year but guess that if that happened the Traverse would be gone. Thanks.
Ended up with 3oz out front and 11 out back with a full quiver. Truthfully I could have probably added another 5-6 out back to offset the quiver. My left to right point of impact changed with the quiver by 6-9" at 100 yards. The weight changed my grip ever so slightly.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Thanks for the response. Wow, a full pound out back (w/ the 5-6 more you mentioned)?! I had no idea (that's why I asked) but somehow I'm still shocked.
Brandon Mcdonald Dude .. I have watched almost all your videos ..like the game of thrones. I'm not going to gush ...but bruh... I appreciate all the camera work you put into your videos! and you have that uncanny ability to talk to people like we are all your best friends ...good shit keep em coming ..thanks you're youtube friend ..lol Jim ...ps ..did you still have plans to test out the new HHA sight ?
Thanks for the compliment! It's been fun making the videos. Glad to hear people are liking them. If I get a Kingpin I'll make a review about it for sure. I just ordered another black gold 5 pin for 3d hunter class.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Awsome your very welcome ... oh you have to do a video comparing your Black golds. after you get some time on it ..I've ran 5 pins for years coming from the 7 pin spot hog I really like that black gold sight ..any thoughts on the Garmin Xero A1 man I'm intrigued...Peace Jim
If you step back to your max distance and take your stabilizers off, put them back on and then start messing around with the weights you will definitely notice the difference.
Brandon Mcdonald love your videos man! I’m just now getting into bow hunting and you’re videos have provided me with tons of info and keep me interested!
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Hey - maybe we're on to something here. Graphene bows!!! Let's talk business offline. Legal Notice: This idea is copyrighted and patent pending by the OP :)
Hey I've got a GOOD one for you Or anyone else Shooting an SR-6 with Gold Tip Hunter Pro's and Kinetic Pierce Platinum at 60 yds the K P P shoot 10 clicks left and 100 yds 20 clicks left ??? of where the Hunter Pro's WHY !!!!!
Just spit balling here, but I think the next give away should include a hunt with Brandon, what do you guys think?? Hit a thumbs up if you think he should!!!
I'm trying to get a good pig place to hunt in Alabama. If I can get one I'd totally be up for taking people. I may try to organize a 3D shoot in Nashville in the early spring as well.
That's exactly what I was thinking!
I'm totally down. Hog hunt ! Gator, elk, antelope, muley, whitetail. Hell squirrel even !! Let's do this.
Brandon Mcdonald not sure how but if I can help in some way let me know. 👍🏻
@@brandonmcdonald6121 I'm in Franklin - happy to help with that.
I shoot Conquest control freak stabilizers 12 on the front wt 3 oz and a 10 in the rear wt 3 oz. They are the 500 series. Wt the smacwrap tech.
I’ve been shooting for 15 plus years and am 25 now. This is the first time it has made sense. Thank you!
Easily the best explanation of why stabilizers are important. Makes shipping my Quattros all the way from South Africa totally worth it!
I really appreciate your approach and thought process. I have been into archery for about 8 months now, so the timing of your information in perfect. Thank you thank you thank you.
I'm just going to keep helping you spend money! Just wait for my next video on arrows and broadheads
I'm finally getting my Revolt X set up so I re-watched this video again as I shop for stabilizers. Even on the second viewing... still a great video. Useful information and a few chuckles along the way. Thank you (again) for the service and education you are providing us. Your efforts are greatly appreciated!
I really liked learning about everything for this video. Physics is fascinating and there’s a ton of it in archery.
This channel has honestly showed me so much about archery in the short few days I have watched, one of the best channels for this subject out there!
I’ve always questioned how I’d know if I need a back bar. This helped make more sense of it. Great video like usual!
As soon as you put one on youll never want to take it off. Thanks for watching.
Ok, got rid of my sight and went with Black gold and now I am running with Cutter 12” out front 10” out back, love these stabilizers!!! Pull my pack/bow up into my stand, 25’ up with the self climber, pull out my sight slide it on, pull out the cutters pop them on and I am good to go. Thanks for always trying new gear for our benefit!!!!
I do the same thing! Everything breaks down nice and goes back together quick. Good choices
I bought a 12” Cutter bar because of this video. I think it is fantastic! I will be buying a Cutter back bar soon. I appreciate the insight Brandon.
Nice! Still very happy with mine
Best explanation of stabilizers and their importance. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks for watching!
Another good video, looking forward to the upcoming broadhead tests.
It'll be an arrow/ broadhead video. Got some good info for that one coming.
Simple an object at rest tends to stay at rest ...takes out some of the error we cause great explanation btw I love the content
I have to dumb it down for myself, so if I can understand it, anyone can!
@@brandonmcdonald6121 I know what your saying haha
I’ve found that the weight*Arm(length)=Moment formula has come in pretty handy in the archery world. Whether it’s calculating the rear stabilizer weight, or determining what the FOC would be if I added a larger broadhead.
Fellow nerd!
Great explanation of stabilization! I think this is the most mis-understood equipment in archery. I spend more time explaining this than anything in my archery shop. I have noticed the best weight distribution to achieve the most stabilization is a ratio of 2-3 times the weight on the back bar vs. the front bar. 90% of the VXR's we have setup have been on average of 6-9 oz. on back bar and 2-5 oz. on front bar. I'm also using the same size 15" front bar and 12" back bar on my personal setup. We have been primarily using Bee Stinger bars but I will check out the Cutters. Great video man........keep on keeping on!
I've got 3 out front and 9 out back so we are in agreement!
@@brandonmcdonald6121 One thing I do is hang my bow from an overhead hook from the top cam and look at my sight bubble. I will swing my back bar in and out and add weight to get that bubble in line. Of course, this is only accurate if your third axis is set correctly.
Man i watched so many videos abt trye stabilization and you always hear “its a feel thing” (which is true) but no breaks it down like that! Man you give some awesome content and i LOVE how you give measurements and statistics for actual feed back! You can tell you take alot of you personal time to help others which is amazing esp for all of us archers/bowhunters! I would love to see you have your on TV show one day! Great content brother GREAT CONTENT!
I just read this out loud to my wife so she knows I'm at least helping a few folks! Thanks for the compliment.
Brandon Mcdonald - im honored you read my comment out loud! Let her know you have helped MANY and your videos are game changing and the way you make them! You can tell your truly committed and a true archer/bowhunter!!! Thank again man and ill always be a subscriber!!!!
Yet again another masterpiece of a video!
Haha! Thanks for watching!
I think a back bar changed my game for sure. With my Fast Eddie XL sight I needed much more back bar than front to compensate for that big sight.
Those suckers are heavy!
The Conquest Smackdown Pro .500 is as close to what your wanting . I haven't seen a set that thin and that stiff. Thin as a sharpie marker and stiff as the blue pill! The are pricey but I love them... Great video all things I do as well. Weight is heavy unless its balanced.
I'll look into those. Thanks for the recommendation
Bmac you’re the man! I love the videos and the way you explain things is just perfect thank for what you do!
Appreciate the compliment!
You dropped one of your plastic washers at 2:35 just lookin out. But yet Another Great Video Brandon!
Haha. I got it back!
Another great Video. I've been diggin' your content! And thank you & Cutter for the opportunity!
Thanks for watching
It now makes perfect sense after you explained it that way.
Glad I could help
...ugh.... where was this video 3 weeks ago. I just bought a stabilizer because I was getting quite a bit of sway issues at longer ranges (70 yards). I did get a longer stabilizer and it does help... but im wishing I went to a longer one yet.
The way you've explained the sway switching between bars is exactly what my issues are.
Another awesome good dry humored video. Some of the best content around. Not much for visual stimulation because its most shots of you speaking, but with the actual meat content keeps me hooked.
if you don't have a back bar I highly recommend getting a back bar before making your front bar any longer. I think it'll probably make a big difference
Best video I have seen on stabilizers. Well timed because I have been messing with mine just before hunting season. Pro tip: always mess with as much of your dialed in bow setup just before you leave hunting. Equipment confidence is overrated. 😂
I leave Wednesday and just ripped my site tape off this afternoon to start over. Who needs confidence!
First time I’ve ever really and truly understood why stabilizers work. That magnet demonstration was clutch. Guess I’m buying a longer front and a new rear stabilizer. Thanks? Haha
Shoot with your current setup then switch and it'll blow your mind.
I never really considered the back bar to be so pivotal in terms of bow balance. One thing you could have touched on with the back bar is the angle too. If folks arent the biggest fans of stacking weight back there to better balance, changing the angle to be a bit more protruding also affects the bows balance. Good stuff, will be checking out Cutter Stabs!
True. I think I will talk a little bit more about it in a quick video that I'm going to do soon where I talk about my actual hunting setup. I felt like a video was already getting so long!
@@brandonmcdonald6121 I enjoy the longer videos, but I'm sure analytics say you're in the sweet spot for duration. Ordered my back mount after this video. Excited to play with it. Chat next video!
Man my wife’s gonna kill me now I tell her I have to go and get a back bar lol 🤣! These new stabilizers you got look sweet!
Legit, it's a game changer. Just make sure you get at least 6oz of weight for the back bar to mess with.
Great vid. I also watched that vid that Levi had put out. I just got a VXR a month or so ago, and when I put the tight spot on it, it immediately fell over to the right. I put a Bee Stinger on the front with 1 oz and a back bar with 4 oz. the back was moved out two notches and down 3. Sits pretty much dead straight up and down but I am no where near as capable a shot as you. Keep the vids coming.
I've liked more weight out back too. I've got 3 upfront and 9 outback right now and I think that's what I'll go out with.
Some great info. The newbies need to pay attention to this video for sure.
If you flip your quiver upside down and run the broadheads at the bottom of your bow it balances better than with them at the top
I'm still trying to figure out the tight spot quiver. Not in love so far...
Brandon Mcdonald I have a regular detachable Mathews one and it works good upside down. Can take it off in the tree. Not sure about the tight spot. Never looked into it
I can tell at full draw that it's unquestionably a fact that I need a back bar with a front bar just so I'm not using my muscles to influence the pin to stay on target 💯
My bow leans into my hand away from my thumb just a bit. That way I'm balancing with my entire arm, not just my thumb.
when im at full draw i have a hard time keeping the pin on target and always below the bullseye
Brandon, do the quick releases come with the Cutter or did you get them somewhere separately? If they are separate, what are they?
Shrewd Archery makes most of these.
I can honestly say I look forward to Brandon's videos more than any other RUclips videos. I know it's gonna be instructional, I know the video and audio will be top notch and most of all I know I will be spending more money...LOL!!
BTW Brandon I received my brand new Traverse last week and I can not believe how great this bow is. Now the decision needs to be made if I will hunt with the VXR 28, VXR 31.5 or the Traverse? The draw on the Traverse is some very special and holds like a stone just like the 31.5. No wonder this bow was such a sleeper last year!!
Thanks for the compliment. I've got my traverse turned down to 66 lbs and the draw is so dang nice. Still love shooting that bow. Have one of the ultraview grips coming to try it out. We will see how that goes.
Brandon Mcdonald so do you still prefer the 31.5 overall?
Agree. Axcel Antler Ridge baby.
The first bow company that incorporates quick disconnects into the riser will have an advantage over the competitors.
Yeah, that's a great idea. That back mount I've got was almost $200! It'll be tough for them to make something that's actually a adjustable in the rear.
Also how is the dampening in the cutters? They look solid. I will give them a look. Love when every day people make something nice to find a niche in a market they love just because. If you can make a living out of it, that's the dream!
I put them against my ramrods, bee stingers and flatlines and I couldn't tell the difference. So I'll say it seems adequate.
Thoughts on the quivalizer then Brandon? For the exact reasons you brought up, lighter weight, more weight being farther out at front. I absolutely love mine. Significantly lightened up my load
I've never tried one but since you can adjust it from horizontal to vertical I can see why it would be useful. The only issue is if it's windy and you want the stabilization you've basically got a giant sail on the front of your bow. The crappy thing about where I live is we are down in the valley so I don't get much wind here to test archery gear!
Love my Cutter!! And the owner is a great guy!!
Had a look at Cutters website, couldn't find the diameter of their stabilisers.
I shoot target and use Atomic Rods - Alpha Series stabilisers.
1/2 inch diameter, Ultra high modulus carbon, Ultra stiff and light.
I think it’s 1/2”‘from what I remember
I'd love to see your review on a front and rear stabilizer setup from crossroads archery the crossover stabilizers look awesome im on a budget so haven't purchased a set yet but just a thought. Love your videos! Thanks
I'll look into them. Thanks for recommending.
As a hunter I run a 13 inch front and 9 inch back bar
Rewatching this again. This year I'll get my bow balanced. Since I knew any added weight was a good thing for stability, I threaded some chunks of steel and slapped them on... After a year of shooting, I weighed them. The front weight is 16oz on a 10" Octane bar.. The chunk I bolted on the bottom riser hole was 18oz!!! Severely front heavy setup... I'll get it right, with your help. Everyone I ask says the weight you use is "personal preference". AKA: I can't help you. Finally at Big Sky I had a guy to give recommendations... He said take all that weight off and just use 6oz out front. That should be my starting point. What say you?
I generally run 3-4oz out front and 10-12 out back. Never ran heavier but sometimes lighter.
Great vid 👌
I have a 12" cutter in the front and a 10 incher for the back. Great set up I now have, my bow shoots🎯nice pimped out with cutter stabilizers . Also great customer service, Earl gave me good advice via messenger on my set up😃
Seems like a good dude. Glad he helped you out.
Are you still running cutters ? If so long term thoughts? Was considering cutters or Axcel antler ridge on my new set up (Mach 30 ds)… You already helped my decision on the uv slider so I’d love your opinion. Thanks
I’ll never shoot without a back bar again. Also it must be properly weighted. I do the whole close my eyes deal and check the bubble and it’s night and day difference.
I also like it for laying my bow down in the woods. Not laying it down on the cams cables or string is pretty handy.
Awesome video! Thanks for taking the time to put it together.
Thanks. Makes this easy to understand!
Success!!
are you gonna do any videos on straight disconnects vs 8° or 10°? just curious on you thoughts and why you are using what you are
Hey Brandon I am from Bowling Green Kentucky just north of Nashville and I am looking for a good bow shop that will allow me to shoot all of the major brands in one place so I can find which one fits me the best any suggestions. We have a good Mathews and PSE dealer in Bowling Green. Thanks and love the channel.
Brandon, good video. The improvement in accuracy from the 6 and 8 inch setup and the 10 and 12 was much more significant than the improvement from that to the 12 and 15. Would have liked a little more information on the difference there and if you think that the diminishing returns are worth the extra length and why.
Great stuff and thanks.
I like the 15 because when I'm out in the woods hunting I can lean it against a tree in a way that my scope isn't touching the ground. Since I'm tall I can also tuck it under my arm in a way that the bow kind of wedges itself in my armpit and hold the end of the stabilizer with the 15. I think the biggest takeaway for me was getting up to at least 12 in on that front bar
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Thank you again for the information. BTW - I was tweaking my Hoyt (new strings, timing, etc) and I went into the local shop and shot the Mathews (mistake #1). My Hoyt is now hanging in the shop for sale and I am hunting with the VXR this year. It truly is an amazing bow thanks for your info on the bows for this year. I am learning a lot from you.
Great video gonna check out these stabilizers for sure
They make good stuff. Might be back ordered a bit right now.
Damnit! It’s Sunday and my bow shop is closed and won’t be open till Tuesday! I hate waiting.
I've been there... One of the reasons I stopped setting up full dozen arrows so I have something to play with on days like today.
Great video thanks! Just placed an order with Cutter. Brandon, which quick releases and mount are you using, recommend?
I've got a shrewd 10 degree down in the front and a Bowfinger in the back
I wonder how much of the experience was a placebo affect, compared to actuality. Wifey should have put a random set up on, blindfolded you and had you draw then pull the blind fold off to shoot. I'd like to see the results then.
Great older video I enjoyed revisiting...
Would be an interesting test. Ive been messing with bars on the news bows again this year and still feel like the biggest jump is from 10 to
12, but I really like running a 15
Good informational video and congratulations to the winner
He was super excited and thankful..I'll try and get him on a call this week and post the video. Young guy with a bear bow. Whisker biscuit and no stabs. It'll be a great upgrade for him.
I have the vxr as well and I love the bow. Could you tell me exactly what you ordered from cutter. Would like to try the same setup as you. I’m also the same draw length and have the 31.5. Thanks and I really like your channel! 👍🏼👍🏼
15" front bar with 3oz of weight and the 8" back with 10oz. Back will be lighter without my quiver on.
Brandon Mcdonald Thank you sir!
What brand of quick release did you use? What back bar mount do you use?
Brandon you should check out Quattro Archery and their stabilizers. They are a lot bigger than the cutters but what Hanno is doing is super impressive. So far from what little but I’ve messaged him he is a super great guy. Company is based out of South Africa.
Cool. I haven't heard about them but I will give them a look
I shoot with some what of a cant anyway seems it just falls in place when I do
Thanks for sharing. What brand Quick Release are you using?
Shrewd 10 degree down in the front and Bowfinger out back. I really like both so far.
You need to try TAP
What’s the lengths of your stabilizers? And what weights are you running? I’m gonna pick some up but I wanna know a ballpark of how much weight to get.
I've got 12 oz total right now. 3 out front and 9 in the back. I think I've settled on a 15" front and an 8" back but with longer narrow weights so it's probably more like a 10"
Hi Brandon! Great video...as always! My question is at what length is the stabilizer not “worth it?” 10F/8R stabile enough generally speaking or is the incremental gain better to comfortably go to 12F/10 or 8R? Is a 6” rear even worth it?
Brandon I have a pretty good stabilizer set up I thought 10” front and 8” back. I recently just bought the VXR and I’m still wondering a lot. What do u recommend. I do like the Cutter system
Sounds like you've got a pretty Kick-Ass system already. What specifically are you wondering about?
@@brandonmcdonald6121 well it’s to late. You convinced me to buy a 12 and 10 cutter system. I emailed the company to see about shipping to Canada. The owner email me back right away. Awesome service. He assured me my picks will help a lot. Please hurry and put the third video out on arrows. We’re getting impatient
Has anyone noticed a difference in balance of the bow depending on whether your quiver is full of arrows vs empty?
cutter is a amazing company know the owner the majority of my life great guy and amazing product
Seems like a good dude.
Good video ... again. I am playing with stabilizers as well with my 31.5, NTN, and Mach 1. What weight on each did you end up feeling the best with on your VXR?
The shorter the bars the heavier I've liked. I've got 3 out front and 9 out back right now with a quiver full of arrows
Hey Brandon, this may have been mentioned above, but where’d you find those quick release pieces?
Look at Bowfinger archery
Great Video Brandon!
Thanks for watching!
yup you making me want to spend some money, more specifically, buy a backbar system.
It's helpful, just make sure you get enough weight
What weight did you need on the 15" front and the 12" back to balance your VXR 31.5? Also, do you think you'll get to your Traverse vs. VXR shoot off before Mathews discontinues the Traverse? I'm hoping for a VXR 33 or 35 this year but guess that if that happened the Traverse would be gone. Thanks.
Ended up with 3oz out front and 11 out back with a full quiver. Truthfully I could have probably added another 5-6 out back to offset the quiver. My left to right point of impact changed with the quiver by 6-9" at 100 yards. The weight changed my grip ever so slightly.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Thanks for the response. Wow, a full pound out back (w/ the 5-6 more you mentioned)?! I had no idea (that's why I asked) but somehow I'm still shocked.
Brandon Mcdonald Dude .. I have watched almost all your videos ..like the game of thrones. I'm not going to gush ...but bruh... I appreciate all the camera work you put into your videos! and you have that uncanny ability to talk to people like we are all your best friends ...good shit keep em coming ..thanks you're youtube friend ..lol Jim ...ps ..did you still have plans to test out the new HHA sight ?
Thanks for the compliment! It's been fun making the videos. Glad to hear people are liking them. If I get a Kingpin I'll make a review about it for sure. I just ordered another black gold 5 pin for 3d hunter class.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Awsome your very welcome ... oh you have to do a video comparing your Black golds. after you get some time on it ..I've ran 5 pins for years coming from the 7 pin spot hog I really like that black gold sight ..any thoughts on the Garmin Xero A1 man I'm intrigued...Peace Jim
Not sure how you don't have a half million followers, the video is awesome, your commentary is ok...lol..jk...info is great love the vids keep it up
Who makes your quick disconnects for your front and rear bars and you think they will bolt up to my bow Tech realm sr6
A reply I saw elsewhere said he uses the shrewd 10 degree in front and the bowfinger quick disconnect for the back.
Would more weight on a shorter stabilizer be equal to less weight longer stabilizer?
Yes, but it takes something like 4x the weight on a 6" vs 12". If you can get to a 12" front bar it'll make a huge difference.
How much weight did you add in each stabilizer? Btw. Great video!
3 our front and 10 out back right now. Without my quiver I'd lighten up the rear a bit more.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 truly appreciate the reply. I'm new in archery and I find your videos very interesting. Thanks!
Good video. I’ve never used a stabilizer on my bows but I’ve thought about it. This is making me think more. Lol
If you step back to your max distance and take your stabilizers off, put them back on and then start messing around with the weights you will definitely notice the difference.
What is your opinion on Crossover Stabilizer?
Haven't used one.
Ok so I have been making my own stabilizers would you be interested in testing them out also in the near future.
That's pretty cool! Message me some pictures on Instagram. I'd like to see what you're doing. Brandonmcdonald_archery
What’s your favorite release to use??
Stan Perfex.
Brandon Mcdonald love your videos man! I’m just now getting into bow hunting and you’re videos have provided me with tons of info and keep me interested!
Thank you again for putting out good content. Shit! Here we go!
Spend that $$$!!!
Another great video!
Thanks for watching
Why is that light out over the computer?
Glares off the bigger monitor
10-4, good video by the way.
What phone case is that? 🤷🏼♂️
Spigen ?? Has a little stand that folds out on the back. I don't know that I can recommend it though because my phone is broke as crap
Oh...you spelled stabilizers incorrectly at the end. ;-)
Hahaha!!! I'm the worst speller in the world so I'm not surprised
Awesome video!
Thanks for watching!
Will 100% post
Well, a graphene stabilizer setup ought to get you as close as possible to your “invisible” idea. It’ll just cost $2 million bucks.
I'll take 2!
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Hey - maybe we're on to something here. Graphene bows!!! Let's talk business offline. Legal Notice: This idea is copyrighted and patent pending by the OP :)
Ohhh Yessssss!!
Those look sweet
Great Video 👏🏻
Thanks for watching!
Hey I've got a GOOD one for you Or anyone else Shooting an SR-6 with Gold Tip Hunter Pro's and Kinetic Pierce Platinum at 60 yds the K P P shoot 10 clicks left and 100 yds 20 clicks left ??? of where the Hunter Pro's WHY !!!!!
Sounds like your axis needs tweaked on your scope more than the bow. What scope you using?
@@brandonmcdonald6121 CBE Teck hybrid we did fix the axis some one said it could be the spine ? both are 400 but the grains are different
Is your mic messed up? So much left channel audio when you are talking. for the quality of your videos its extremely odd.
I even panned it over to the right for y'all this time!! For some reason it's coming out of the camera left heavy...
And here you go again explaining something I've seen, but never understood. Yup... I'm going to spend more money. LOL!!
Do it!
Never head of this brand of stabilizers
Online distribution only that I know of. Young guy just wanted to start making cool, American made stuff for archery!
Based in Colorado and a great guy!! Makes killer stabilizers!!
And now ..... Come on #ramrodstabalizer lol
Haha, it'll get there!
do i actually need a back bar when I dont shoot with a quiver?
@Brandon Mcdonald what do you think about an offset front bracket for the front stabilizer Like mathews makes, so then you can counter the quiver.
Prime black 5 Brandon. Come on buddy
Decided to buy a new pack instead... Maybe next year!