Great vid! As an ‘83 QV 308 owner (approx same miles) I loved seeing this and would love a carb’d car. I can’t believe they started it with 34 year old timing belts! Gutsy! Looking forward to seeing the paint and refresh.
Fascinating discovery. 20 years ago when I bought my 1977 308 GTB the vetro cars commanded about a 30-50% price premium and the gap has only gotten bigger. Some good historical information on this video. Thank you for sharing.
In love with the 308 since I saw it for the first time in Magnum PI. A man's got to have dreams....For all you Ferraristi's out here: have an original in box, unopened kit of the Testarossa by Robbe for anyone that's interested. Including all the options like the 480S tuned motor and the lights-set.
The first car poster on my bedroom wall was a 308GTB. And seeing these old classics still alive reminds me of how much I still love them. It's a subconscious thing I suppose. Great vid.
I love the way these are now ‘Veteroresina’ 308’s... they were always ‘fibre glass’ and as I remember mostly unloved. Now they are exotic and rare... and as one of the previous comments says ... rust wrapped in plastic!! I’m being an old cynic. Beautiful car! Needs love !! Arrivederci... as they say...
Yes the whole 'vetroresina' thing is quite recent. I have been looking at adverts for 308s for years and only fairly recently has that word become common in English magazines.
You mean design by Pininfarina, Scaglietti built I think and another Interesting classic Ferrari find video, thank you! (Another Modena serviced car...)
The one at Ian Tyrell's was good from afar but far from good! Lets hope this one was cared for and shows less rust beneath the surface. Both project will be great to see once completed.
After seeing Tyrell’s classics workshop restoration on one of these I’d definitely remove the front section of bodywork and check for rust what they found on one of these was truly scary as a lot of the main structures were rusted and it was a potential death trap also rust showed on the exact same part of the door pilar apart from that it looked sound 😳
The front end where the radiator sits is probably all rusted out and under the fiberglass is probably rusted out too, thanks to the Iain tyrell video I learned that the other day
thats where my Boxer has rusted to. The rad is out of this 308 so I will check closely tomorrow. Fortunately it was stored inside so hopefully the frame survived better.
@@a1topdog after seeing Iain tyrells video I’m surprised too after seeing how rusted the steel frame was on that car and how many repairs had to be made
As a previous poster mentioned Ian Tyrrell has a very rusty one in at the moment, but I would hope this one having been dry stored for so many years is a completely different story. I have yearned for one of these most of my life and think the owner is a very lucky guy!!!. If it were mine I would do exactly the same thing as him and also get some waxoyl or similar injected into the chassis tubes to preserve it. I think its best to preserve as much originality as possible with these pieces of Ferrari history. Then I would use it sparingly on nice sunny days. These things have to be driven;-]
Recently one of these fiberglass 308s was featured on Tyrrell's classic workshop. It was shocking how much structural rust the car had under the fiberglass body panels.
I remember 40 odd years ago sitting in a traffic jam in Liverpool city centre, behind a Hillman Hunter or similar and thinking to myself "That number plate has got to be worth something". The plate was... GTB 308F. Back in the day when number plates had proper numbers. Oh, and letters! have searched for it since, but it no longer appears to exist on the Gov.uk database
I’d do exactly what the owner is doing on this one. Frame and fiberglass spot repair, good repaint, make it beyond good but not a garage queen, it shouldn’t be nut & bolt resto. Love it.
The joint on the A pillar is the tell tale sign to tell the difference from the fiberglass cars to the steel cars , you would think that Ferrari would have done a better job hiding that Damn tires from 85 depending on the month they might be older than me
Funny little note, that line down the side, that sort of C channel type thing, that was a molding line between the two halves of the car for the fiberglass, and theirs actually another one in canada, the cold war motors guy was working on getting it running for a customer, also look how inset the bumpers are at 1:30, like their non existent and I hope that's not a habit at 7:37, like I dont know what the laws are in that location, but here, double lines mean do not pass, and theirs no run off if that goes wrong. but still what happened that this well loved car got put away like this, did he buy an 87 Quatrovalve, as one of the funniest things I've heard is that actually, the latter quattro cars are better than the early fiber ones as the weight balance is better, and the cars are faster and more powerful. as both James May and Harry Metcalf had, and sold both of them, Harry bought the testarossa, and loves the hell out of it, even though it was down on half a bank with its worn distributor for the longest time, including when it was on the grand tour which means it didnt get a fair test of how it would have been when new and james well, he had an old overthink crisis and put the thing fully back to stock, including the 14 inch wheels, instead of the upgraded 15's which makes a hell of a difference in how well they drive apparently and then was like, well this cars not that good and I'm kinda bored with it like preversely, ferrari actually made the 308 better as time went on lol still though the other thing is, these cars, well, each one is different, maybe this one has more power than both their glass fiber cars, as per the nature of handbuilt cars. if it was me, honestly the icon for me is the targa model, so I'd have to go with your black beater that you bought from the set of the hidden over it and sell it for that, also from 1987 ish lol although I probably wouldnt say that after driving it lol or either really lol as this one, I gotta say gives off good vibes, weirdly just even looking at harry's and James I had the feeling they were both mingers, this one, evidently might be a good one. I mean look at that mileage, and its condition, 80K miles and it was kept up this well, someone REALLY loved this thing, and you dont love a piece of junk like that.
My grandpa buy a 308 quattrovalvole from factory back in the day.. she was california blue ( pretty rare ). He sold it in 2015 to an scotish collector. Oh i forgot to say it but the car was in Switzerland (my country) and has 23’099km. ;)
2:26 Even the cutaway diagram has a broken popup headlight! I guess Ferrari was trying to give owners a hint at what they should expect :-) Kidding aside; I'm happy to see this 308 getting some much needed love.
What a great find! Didn’t know the first 308 were fiber glass. Awesome engine sound also, can’t you get that sound out of your own 308 with throttle bodies or something? I’m so looking forward to see the BBI finished too. Enjoying every video ;)
We can’t help but think, the steel chassis needs investigating and redoing at least with some modern day protection before contemplating throwing money at the exterior, interior and engine. As always, love the Chanel Scott. ✌🏼
I'm surprised at the amount of miles on it with no cracks in the fiberglass. That alone is amazing as with the old fiberglass Corvettes you have way more cracking and spidering on those bodies with far less mile examples than this. With the type of restoration the owner is doing it's obvious it's going to be enjoyed again maybe not as much miles on it but what he's chosen to do is the right redo.. not full restoration with that amount of miles.
I recognize the road around Lake Garda I live not far from there, they filmed the opening scene of Quantum of Solace. Great roads for driving although full of slow German tourists in summer!
The 308's have been one of my favourite car models scince i got a model one as a kid. Just checked and the later steel body ones aren't unrealistically priced, might own one in the future :D
Tyres - Plenty of tread but now fully age hardened to be deadly - will pass an MOT but likely end up in a hedge backward if ever driven in anger. A visit to longstone is a must
A full restoration it deserves it , I just like my cars pristine I now there only original once but a sympathetic restoration is still a restoration I restored my 911 a few years ago body work respray wheels and just tidied up inside and everytime someone got into her they would say when are you doing the inside
I knew someone called Harry that owned one of these in the 80s in the Notts area, I noticed this one was service on Loughborough road. Be interested to know if this was his.
How's the chassis? I think I'm falling in love with the older version of this car from the 70s. Really nice. I think doing right by it and drive it here and there.
The fibreglass cars around around 300 lbs lighter than the steel cars.. that was the reason that they started getting more popular.. Ferrari Club racers wanted the light weight bodies.. unfortunately, that means that a lot got Turned into race cars and damaged,
Yes tyrrell have one..its rotten underneath all that fibreglass. Shockingly dangerous that one. They pointed out the rot by the screen. It lead them to properly investigate. Not that I am saying these guys haven't checked.
Thats not rare at all lmao. 206/246 gt dino had transverse engine transverse transaxle. Same for all 208 models (208 gtb , 208 turbo , gtb turbo), all the 308s (308 vetro , 308 gtb , 308 gtbi , 308 qv), all the 328s. 348 and 355 had longitudinal engine layouts but still kept the transverse transaxle , with the 360 it finally became longitudinal engine and longitudinal transaxle
I have an honest question about that VPN. When you shop parts in the US via VPN, how do you get them over to the UK? I think those additional offers didn't show up initially because the do not ship them, or how does this work? Apart from that, it is a stunning car. I would drive it, since I hate it when cars just sit around, flat-spotting their tyres.
Ian Tyrrell is restoring one of these. A tale of rust under fibre glass!
i bet this one is too
So like an old Corvette?
Hope this one is beter....
Rusty steel rails under the fibreglass !
I came here to say the same, I think that fibreglass might be hiding some horrors
One of the most beautiful designs. Ever.
I agree. It’s always been right up there for me, design-wise.
@Graham ARE YOU SERIOUS????????????
Great vid! As an ‘83 QV 308 owner (approx same miles) I loved seeing this and would love a carb’d car. I can’t believe they started it with 34 year old timing belts! Gutsy! Looking forward to seeing the paint and refresh.
it proves the point, these engines are pretty solid. rubber belts though risky
however the belts on my boxer having been outside for 13+ years felts fine
That 308 must be driven as much as possible. It is a true pearl. Wish it was in my garage👍
👍👍 up to the first owner who wasn't shy driving it .
Only found your channel about a week ago, and I been absolutely binge watching. Great stuff
Welcome aboard!
Fascinating discovery. 20 years ago when I bought my 1977 308 GTB the vetro cars commanded about a 30-50% price premium and the gap has only gotten bigger. Some good historical information on this video. Thank you for sharing.
In love with the 308 since I saw it for the first time in Magnum PI. A man's got to have dreams....For all you Ferraristi's out here: have an original in box, unopened kit of the Testarossa by Robbe for anyone that's interested. Including all the options like the 480S tuned motor and the lights-set.
The first car poster on my bedroom wall was a 308GTB. And seeing these old classics still alive reminds me of how much I still love them. It's a subconscious thing I suppose. Great vid.
I love the way these are now ‘Veteroresina’ 308’s... they were always ‘fibre glass’ and as I remember mostly unloved.
Now they are exotic and rare... and as one of the previous comments says ... rust wrapped in plastic!!
I’m being an old cynic. Beautiful car! Needs love !!
Arrivederci... as they say...
yes, I remember them being rejected by 'purists' and cheap as chips
@@davidstuart4915 if only we’d have known!! 😂😂
Yes the whole 'vetroresina' thing is quite recent. I have been looking at adverts for 308s for years and only fairly recently has that word become common in English magazines.
You mean design by Pininfarina, Scaglietti built I think and another Interesting classic Ferrari find video, thank you! (Another Modena serviced car...)
The one at Ian Tyrell's was good from afar but far from good! Lets hope this one was cared for and shows less rust beneath the surface. Both project will be great to see once completed.
I’d love to do a full restore on it. Back to factory showroom. Love the reverse light tip on the early cars too. That’s the stuff I nerd out on..
Super interesting, loving these videos in between the progress on the bbi
Overtaking on double lines. Perfectly acceptable in a classic Ferrari. Bring it.
After seeing Tyrell’s classics workshop restoration on one of these I’d definitely remove the front section of bodywork and check for rust what they found on one of these was truly scary as a lot of the main structures were rusted and it was a potential death trap also rust showed on the exact same part of the door pilar apart from that it looked sound 😳
The front end where the radiator sits is probably all rusted out and under the fiberglass is probably rusted out too, thanks to the Iain tyrell video I learned that the other day
thats where my Boxer has rusted to. The rad is out of this 308 so I will check closely tomorrow. Fortunately it was stored inside so hopefully the frame survived better.
@@Ratarossa hopefully, the one he showed one of the cross braces was missing about 2 inches from the end where it’s welded to the rest of the frame
Surprised the owner is not having the bodywork removed to check the condition of the steel frame
@@a1topdog after seeing Iain tyrells video I’m surprised too after seeing how rusted the steel frame was on that car and how many repairs had to be made
@@a1topdog my thoughts exactly, and before paint !
I’ve read somewhere that older fiberglass actually absorb moisture. Should explain bubbling.
As a previous poster mentioned Ian Tyrrell has a very rusty one in at the moment, but I would hope this one having been dry stored for so many years is a completely different story. I have yearned for one of these most of my life and think the owner is a very lucky guy!!!. If it were mine I would do exactly the same thing as him and also get some waxoyl or similar injected into the chassis tubes to preserve it. I think its best to preserve as much originality as possible with these pieces of Ferrari history. Then I would use it sparingly on nice sunny days. These things have to be driven;-]
7:40: double overtake over double yellow lines in a tunnel 😬
(Was that from an ad or promotion from Ferrari?)
A pass in a Ferrari is a pass!
And in Italy, those driving a classic Ferrari usually also get a pass from the Rozzers (Carabinieri)!
They adore their nation's "Prancing Pride"! 🐎
@@MasterSandman ahah i never heard before "rozzers" usually they call them even caramba or "gli sbirri"
For a min I thought I see a car guy sitting on the rear of a Ferrari with shoes on the paintwork 😱😱😱😱😡
@@riccardopastro6451 It's British slang for the boys in blue. James May used it several times during his tenure at TG! 😊
Thank you! Love 308s!
Recently one of these fiberglass 308s was featured on Tyrrell's classic workshop. It was shocking how much structural rust the car had under the fiberglass body panels.
Woah...i never knew they made 308 in fiberglass in the early years. Thats a real valuable gem
Thanks for sharing, on the down note I heard the early 308’s like this one have framing issues, lots of rust as we know..
Great find,car and video😀🇳🇴
Love the sound👌
A terrific video, and a simply beautiful Ferrari.
Not a ratarossa but a rarerossa 👌
I remember 40 odd years ago sitting in a traffic jam in Liverpool city centre, behind a Hillman Hunter or similar and thinking to myself "That number plate has got to be worth something". The plate was... GTB 308F. Back in the day when number plates had proper numbers. Oh, and letters! have searched for it since, but it no longer appears to exist on the Gov.uk database
That tunnel part brought back memories of going through Mont Blanc in 74 in my Dads 73 V12 E type
In my opinion I never repainted this car. This is a history from the car.
Great car & great video, thanks for sharing the history.
I’d do exactly what the owner is doing on this one. Frame and fiberglass spot repair, good repaint, make it beyond good but not a garage queen, it shouldn’t be nut & bolt resto. Love it.
The joint on the A pillar is the tell tale sign to tell the difference from the fiberglass cars to the steel cars , you would think that Ferrari would have done a better job hiding that
Damn tires from 85 depending on the month they might be older than me
What a beauty! Wouldn’t have wanted to touch that engine @4:29 though-see the spark arcing from the lead to the block😂
Funny little note, that line down the side, that sort of C channel type thing, that was a molding line between the two halves of the car for the fiberglass, and theirs actually another one in canada, the cold war motors guy was working on getting it running for a customer, also look how inset the bumpers are at 1:30, like their non existent
and I hope that's not a habit at 7:37, like I dont know what the laws are in that location, but here, double lines mean do not pass, and theirs no run off if that goes wrong.
but still what happened that this well loved car got put away like this, did he buy an 87 Quatrovalve, as one of the funniest things I've heard is that actually, the latter quattro cars are better than the early fiber ones as the weight balance is better, and the cars are faster and more powerful.
as both James May and Harry Metcalf had, and sold both of them, Harry bought the testarossa, and loves the hell out of it, even though it was down on half a bank with its worn distributor for the longest time, including when it was on the grand tour which means it didnt get a fair test of how it would have been when new
and james well, he had an old overthink crisis and put the thing fully back to stock, including the 14 inch wheels, instead of the upgraded 15's which makes a hell of a difference in how well they drive apparently
and then was like, well this cars not that good and I'm kinda bored with it
like preversely, ferrari actually made the 308 better as time went on lol still though the other thing is, these cars, well, each one is different, maybe this one has more power than both their glass fiber cars, as per the nature of handbuilt cars.
if it was me, honestly the icon for me is the targa model, so I'd have to go with your black beater that you bought from the set of the hidden over it and sell it for that, also from 1987 ish lol
although I probably wouldnt say that after driving it lol or either really lol as this one, I gotta say gives off good vibes, weirdly just even looking at harry's and James I had the feeling they were both mingers, this one, evidently might be a good one.
I mean look at that mileage, and its condition, 80K miles and it was kept up this well, someone REALLY loved this thing, and you dont love a piece of junk like that.
Cheers for the video mate 😎 👌
Love geeking out over the minute differences twixt the vet and the later cars, looking forward to the next one mate
My grandpa buy a 308 quattrovalvole from factory back in the day.. she was california blue ( pretty rare ).
He sold it in 2015 to an scotish collector.
Oh i forgot to say it but the car was in Switzerland (my country) and has 23’099km. ;)
They probably changed the design of the rear engine cover as it’d wouldn’t work and be too heavy in steel.
My only hope is that when an article gets written up (the journalist) realises which country the car is found. Ref: BB.
And in 30 years time, they will be saying the Lexus LC500 V8 was the last orgasmic normal aspirated sounding car.
Ha! I watched Lost Boys on the weekend with the kids. We also watch the Never Ending Storey. I like that you divert from the regular show for this.
After seeing the damage Ian Tyrrell found on the fiberglass 308 he's working on, I'd at least want every panel taken off to check for rust.
I hope he's blueprinting the engine while it is out.
Gorgeous find!
Nice car, amazing find . That one in the mountain road sounds like what Jack @Number 27 wants his 308 to sound, as his is a carburetted too.
great video and information mate! well done! thanks for sharing!
2:26 Even the cutaway diagram has a broken popup headlight! I guess Ferrari was trying to give owners a hint at what they should expect :-) Kidding aside; I'm happy to see this 308 getting some much needed love.
My pop up lights (308 GT4) have been faultless since at least 1995.
@@RBMGT4 Nice!!! You are one of the lucky ones.
I saw the one on Tyrell's garage yesterday. Under the body work it was all rust.
checking this one closely tomorrow
@@Ratarossa please let us know the outcome of the chassis condition. Great channel 👍👍
And hidden rust ‘in’ the fibreglass bodywork too.
Nice rare barn find. Keep us update 💪
What a great find! Didn’t know the first 308 were fiber glass. Awesome engine sound also, can’t you get that sound out of your own 308 with throttle bodies or something? I’m so looking forward to see the BBI finished too.
Enjoying every video ;)
What a beauty. Id do exactly what the owner is doing and then drive it and enjoy it! thanks for sharing!
We can’t help but think, the steel chassis needs investigating and redoing at least with some modern day protection before contemplating throwing money at the exterior, interior and engine. As always, love the Chanel Scott. ✌🏼
Great find.
Well done son.
Great video, love seeing these. Too many adverts though.
I'm surprised at the amount of miles on it with no cracks in the fiberglass. That alone is amazing as with the old fiberglass Corvettes you have way more cracking and spidering on those bodies with far less mile examples than this. With the type of restoration the owner is doing it's obvious it's going to be enjoyed again maybe not as much miles on it but what he's chosen to do is the right redo.. not full restoration with that amount of miles.
I recognize the road around Lake Garda I live not far from there, they filmed the opening scene of Quantum of Solace. Great roads for driving although full of slow German tourists in summer!
The 308's have been one of my favourite car models scince i got a model one as a kid. Just checked and the later steel body ones aren't unrealistically priced, might own one in the future :D
yes they are great car, good fun and quite easy to maintain
Tyres - Plenty of tread but now fully age hardened to be deadly - will pass an MOT but likely end up in a hedge backward if ever driven in anger. A visit to longstone is a must
A full restoration it deserves it , I just like my cars pristine I now there only original once but a sympathetic restoration is still a restoration I restored my 911 a few years ago body work respray wheels and just tidied up inside and everytime someone got into her they would say when are you doing the inside
That Ferrari garage is now the cooperative food store.
You gpt your Pininfarina and Scaglietti the wrong way round! Good video
Nut and bolt with sympathetic tones on the resto
Straight out of Charnwood - probably seen this at Graypauls.
i was 23 when this car was last on the road... i could do with a restoration too....
I think I’m suffering from some hidden, structural rust ‘n’ all.
That camaro is a killer
I knew someone called Harry that owned one of these in the 80s in the Notts area, I noticed this one was service on Loughborough road. Be interested to know if this was his.
Great video
These things suffer rust far more than is commonly assumed....
My skin is itching just watching them sand that fiberglass.
I want a 308GTS, this video makes me want one more.........
Cheers Scott lovely and rare car ( I never knew about this 308!!) 🚒👍
Yes V8 starts up from a long long sleep !
Very cool! I’ve always loved the 308
How's the chassis? I think I'm falling in love with the older version of this car from the 70s. Really nice. I think doing right by it and drive it here and there.
“Lunch is for wimps” 😂 haven’t seen Wall Street in ages. Interesting project car to follow through the workshop👍.
Man I would love to see someone Resto mod one of these and drop a modern Ferrari engine in it!
Great car. Please share some of it's history. looks she was the queen. waited so long. . Thanks.
Obviously, they have not checked out the under chassis which is probably hiding some really bad rust - as previously mentioned - re Ian Tyrrell
Hey Scott do you know the weight saving the fibreglass version has?
The fibreglass cars around around 300 lbs lighter than the steel cars.. that was the reason that they started getting more popular.. Ferrari Club racers wanted the light weight bodies.. unfortunately, that means that a lot got Turned into race cars and damaged,
I have a friend with a 512 Boxer and a 246 Dino have been sitting in a garage since about 35 years. Look great but have mechanically been sitting.
I’d watch the Terry’s garage vid on that one before going any further.
Harry's Garage?
@@realMaverickBuckley Ian Tyrrell?
Barry's carport?
@@rob1984p 😂
Yes tyrrell have one..its rotten underneath all that fibreglass. Shockingly dangerous that one. They pointed out the rot by the screen. It lead them to properly investigate. Not that I am saying these guys haven't checked.
Owner watches Iain Tyrrell's video and calls garage to halt everything and reassess. That's my guess
im going to check rust today
Yep, all over but definitely the front frames
Why can’t I find one of these dream cars damnit!!
I grew up with Magnum PI and the 308/328 is my Unicorn car.
Sympathetic restoration all the way please. Keep it as original as possible
Is that a custom 1st gen. Camaro beside the car?
Another channel had one of these in for refurbishing and almost everything under the fiberglass was rotted. Hopefully they checked out.
Vetroresina in italian means vetro-glass ,resina-resin (fiberglass).
The correct pronounce is vètrorèsina
That’s no Fiero kit car. It’s beautiful!
They don't fool around at that garage!
Does the solid double line on the road mean do not cross in Europe like here in the States ? Not criticizing just curious
yes it does !
@@Ratarossa thanks
not in Italy...just don't get caught but when you drive a Ferrari you are expected to overtake.
Of all of the Ferraris, this is rare, particularly the way the engine is configured like a Honda.
Thats not rare at all lmao. 206/246 gt dino had transverse engine transverse transaxle. Same for all 208 models (208 gtb , 208 turbo , gtb turbo), all the 308s (308 vetro , 308 gtb , 308 gtbi , 308 qv), all the 328s. 348 and 355 had longitudinal engine layouts but still kept the transverse transaxle , with the 360 it finally became longitudinal engine and longitudinal transaxle
I don't remember many Hondas with mid mounted V8s
@@RBMGT4 You're not wrong ... lol. Why are you comparing Honda to Ferrari? That's not my main intent
turn/lights is a Jaeger like on Alfa 105 GTs, only one plastic end is different
What happened to the original owner? That caused it to be left in the barn for so long?
One of the last few imported to uk in '77.does it have the lightweight spare wheel? Worth doing it right.Rosso Chiaro?
yes it does the slim 'dino' wheel
Oh yeah! More contents
Love this channel. Always keeps me interested. Question is it me or is the audio a little off?
Think the frame and body outrigger may need reviewing to check for rot.
that road looks like the chase scene from quantum of solace
I have an honest question about that VPN. When you shop parts in the US via VPN, how do you get them over to the UK? I think those additional offers didn't show up initially because the do not ship them, or how does this work?
Apart from that, it is a stunning car. I would drive it, since I hate it when cars just sit around, flat-spotting their tyres.
good question. Generally i have found for example with ebay if you message the seller normally you can sort out shipping
@@Ratarossa Ah, I see. Thanks for that!
i think you have it backwards (2:00) I think Pininfarina designed the car and Scaglietti built it.
Yes that's the right way around.
I'm dyslexic .... thats my excuse