Hey, just an FYI you may want to do an update or comment insert on your video. I followed this video for installing the HSM conversion on my 2017 F250. I made a couple trips around town, all OK. Then I headed out on a 180 mile trip over a mountain pass. About 20 miles out of town engine suddenly shut down and I was fortunately able to pull off right away. What I discovered was that the HSM supplied fuel line hose pulled off of the barbed fitting which was on the HSM hose side (not the side of OEM smaller hose with supplied clamp). HSM now advises there should be a clamp on the other side as well. Your video is excellent but shows the old version (11:25 - 11:55) and can be a problem if the supplied hose pulls off. HSM claims they are supplying two clamps now. Mine only came with one and instructions did not indicate a second one was needed.
GREAT VIDEO, appreciate your time. , Noticed at 12:03 in video, it appears that HS forgot to install the clamp on opposite side of small barb fitting where you cut and attached Ford hose. My HS upgrade small hose arrived with a compression clamp installed on one side of the small fuel line and they supplied a clamp for use during installation on the opposite side of the barb fitting to the small fuel line. Hope you are no having leaks or adding something after shooting the install video.
I did not have to cut the small 5/16 line. There was plenty of pipe to reach the far right connector on the HSM block. I kept all the factory connectors. I used Earls AT949064ERL Earls 90 Degree -6 AN Male to 7/16"-20 Swivel and a Torque Solution Quick Connect Fitting Male 5/16" to -6 AN Female.
Small fuel tank? Go to Titan Tanks. I replaced the 35 gal with a 55 gal underneath in my 2018 F-250 superduty. I also put a 50 gal Titan tank in the bed with a transfer pump. That gave me 105 gal fuel capacity. It costs over $300 to fill up completely but what a trade off for the range. Do a video on the tank swap. And, the guys at Titan are super cool. Great company.
So how do you get around having to buy the upper and lower fuel filter together since they're only sold that way? Have you found a way to buy just the lower fuel filter by itself?
Been there done that won’t do it again. I did this modification on my 2012 450 because the engine fuel filter was a bastard to install and remove. The little koozie thing lasted one filter change interval. When I went to change the filter 10k miles later it came off the filter in two pieces. Plus it never set in the holder correctly, kept riding up and almost out. Only thing holding it in place was the fuel lines. Also good luck finding just the frame mounted filter. The only manufacturer I could get one from for the 2012 was aFe Power.
If there was a fuel system related failure or the fuel system caused a failure,...you can bet Ford will say the modification voids the warranty. Then it’s your lawyers versus Ford lmao. Just keep it stock, there is no problem with the stock inline filter, it’s the morons who don’t know how to remove and install correctly.
Don't listen to the manufacturer's suggested services. Services need to be done a lot more often if you want the truck to last. The manufacturers main concern is about making money off of us, not so much at building something that's going to last without any issues. I been dealing with diesels my whole life and I can reassure you, changing fuel filters often is a must. I wouldn't go past 15000 miles one bit. You really shouldn't go much past 10000 in my opinion. Especially with the cp4 pump. On my 21 I'll be changing every 8000 to 10000 miles. Might be over kill, but it's a heck of a lot cheaper then a completely new fuel system, or engine.
What's the advantage of this? It's just like the factory plugs of the plastic filter, they too can pop off. Is this just for looks or is it a better filter?
The plastic caps are defective and get a pinhole in them. It will cover the inside of your engine bay with fuel. I had mine do it with 28k miles on my f250 platinum.
Is there enough slack in the fuel lines to change the spin on filter without disconnecting the lines? If not, there is nothing accomplished with this "upgrade"
Every aftermarket part company has warnings or fine print on their products. It’s to cover them in case something goes wrong the end user doesn’t come after them in a lawsuit. Pretty straightforward stuff in the aftermarket auto industry... Don’t like it, don’t mod it. I bet FASS has similar verbiage somewhere on their site.
@@moostang09 Wrong, it states it does not void warranty. The other aspect of the H & S is it don't improve filtration. So what is the real point of doing it?
Why on earth would you install that filter? How many microns does this filter? Here are the warnings listed on the H & S website. The stock filter works down to 4 microns that's why I asked what this filter does. I'm installing FASS fuel system which will filter down to 2 microns and that system has many other benefits.
Yeah I’ve probably done like 30 passes or so with it at the track. It’s an MT82 car best I’ve done so far is 10s but I’m on 93 and the lowest boost pulley. Trapping 130mph so I can’t imagine what it would run with a 6r80
The brown clip has a small plastic barb in it that can easily snap off under routine oil changes. There is the safety aspect in that but also the Baldwin filter is supposed to be of much higher quality than the OEM stuff. Not sure the specifics on that, I guess I more so took the internets word on it..
@@billrector it’s not perfectly good, a lot of people have had serious problems with broken fuel filters, fuel filter connectors breaking, that have even led to trucks burning to the ground.
On the fence on doing this mod- as much as I don't want to ever experience a fuel line issue causing my truck to burn- this scenario in my mind shows me this: -Modification is easy and not expensive (either DIY or indy shop install), makes sense better than plastic....but then the what if happens...a leak and a fire -Truck is a total loss and (for this scenario) you and your family are lucky survive (feel free to change your scenario to worst case here). ME in court: I chose to do this mod as a preventative maintenance/safety issue FORD lawyers: "well- the thing is- it was no longer OEM after the modification- and we have not issued any recalls- therefore not our problem...So sorry, have a nice day"
@@DaRoach5882 BMP design? A year ago you mentioned it. And for those like me that are challenged, what does BMP stand for so I can research. Thank you in advance.
Hey, just an FYI you may want to do an update or comment insert on your video. I followed this video for installing the HSM conversion on my 2017 F250. I made a couple trips around town, all OK. Then I headed out on a 180 mile trip over a mountain pass. About 20 miles out of town engine suddenly shut down and I was fortunately able to pull off right away. What I discovered was that the HSM supplied fuel line hose pulled off of the barbed fitting which was on the HSM hose side (not the side of OEM smaller hose with supplied clamp). HSM now advises there should be a clamp on the other side as well. Your video is excellent but shows the old version (11:25 - 11:55) and can be a problem if the supplied hose pulls off. HSM claims they are supplying two clamps now. Mine only came with one and instructions did not indicate a second one was needed.
I just purchased a 2018 F250 with 25,580 miles, This will be my first small modification I'm ordering this now.
I use the maintenance log on the Ford app for my iPhone iPhone. It has all your vehicle info, door locks, engine start/stop, dealer info, etc.
GREAT VIDEO, appreciate your time. , Noticed at 12:03 in video, it appears that HS forgot to install the clamp on opposite side of small barb fitting where you cut and attached Ford hose. My HS upgrade small hose arrived with a compression clamp installed on one side of the small fuel line and they supplied a clamp for use during installation on the opposite side of the barb fitting to the small fuel line. Hope you are no having leaks or adding something after shooting the install video.
I did not have to cut the small 5/16 line. There was plenty of pipe to reach the far right connector on the HSM block. I kept all the factory connectors. I used Earls AT949064ERL Earls 90 Degree -6 AN Male to 7/16"-20 Swivel and a Torque Solution Quick Connect Fitting Male 5/16" to -6 AN Female.
Small fuel tank? Go to Titan Tanks. I replaced the 35 gal with a 55 gal underneath in my 2018 F-250 superduty. I also put a 50 gal Titan tank in the bed with a transfer pump. That gave me 105 gal fuel capacity. It costs over $300 to fill up completely but what a trade off for the range. Do a video on the tank swap. And, the guys at Titan are super cool. Great company.
Been missing your truck videos. 2017 F350 King Ranch and pretty much do every mod you do. Love your videos!
Thanks for watching Roger!! 🙌🏼
I just purchased a 2017 f250 diesel I love it!!!! I’m watching all your videos bro!
Thanks dude! Congrats on your truck!
So how do you get around having to buy the upper and lower fuel filter together since they're only sold that way? Have you found a way to buy just the lower fuel filter by itself?
Good point
Yeah! that would be a cool book
FYI
I like the fact that you show in your videos step-by-step details when working on you truck.
Moostang!!!! Glad to see a truck vid
Thanks brother!! 🙌🏼
Been there done that won’t do it again. I did this modification on my 2012 450 because the engine fuel filter was a bastard to install and remove. The little koozie thing lasted one filter change interval. When I went to change the filter 10k miles later it came off the filter in two pieces. Plus it never set in the holder correctly, kept riding up and almost out. Only thing holding it in place was the fuel lines. Also good luck finding just the frame mounted filter. The only manufacturer I could get one from for the 2012 was aFe Power.
Same upgrade i am doing my fitting broke. Keep up the good content.
Can you buy just buy the water serperator filter by its self or does it also come as a package deal ( both filters together) ???
You should look into a 60 gallon fuel tank upgrade
SPE billet drain valve for your tank filter is also a good upgrade.
They have been out of stock everywhere for a while now. I check back like once a month. Bummer...
Just ordered mine! They’re available now!
Make the Book!!! Date, Fuel , Def, Performance Mods.....and the Dreaded Ford Factory Recall :) Great Vid....
Valstar361 R and check engine lights
I guess I missed it but what was the advantage of changing the secondary fuel underhood & what is it's micron rating? Thanks.
No fire
I’ve had the shitty oem plastic ones crack and spray fuel everywhere. This upgrade seems legit.
3 years later do you still recommend this?
First mod I’m doing when I get home
Shaun O’Connell it’ll take 10m...
Rethink this mod. Literally, rethink the shit out of it.
@@Thamac15 curious why?
Glad to see another truck video....I want to do the filter mod... but keep hearing it voids the warranty. Have you heard anything regarding warranty?
If there was a fuel system related failure or the fuel system caused a failure,...you can bet Ford will say the modification voids the warranty. Then it’s your lawyers versus Ford lmao. Just keep it stock, there is no problem with the stock inline filter, it’s the morons who don’t know how to remove and install correctly.
@@Thamac15 @ 52k miles, he’s way past any warranty there may be.
@@chriswalters8110 my 2019 has 60k mile 5 year warranty
@@YaMonBaitCo your talking power train warranty only which is correct. However, what what he did is beyond the warranty of 3 years 36k.
@@chriswalters8110 some have extended warranties out to 100k fyi.
nice video
Great install vid!
Can you purchase just the frame filter by it self?
Hello, I really enjoy your videos, where I can bought the conversation kit, it is a website, thanks AG
Just curious as to why HS doesn't make a fitting so you (we) dont have to cut our fuel line? Seems that it would be easy to do.
Exactly my thought.. Seriously! They made the other bung plugs to accept the plugs but require you to cut the third one makes no damn sense..
They do that because that last fitting is notorious for breaking. I agree there has to be some other options, but the stock fitting is garbage.
@@nickwawok8115mine broke yesterday
When should the baldwin filter be changed out?
Definitely getting this ASAP!
When are you going to do all the chrome delete.?? Yes make that book it will be really handy
Are you still liking the filter conversation?
Awesome video! Learned a lot.
Don't listen to the manufacturer's suggested services. Services need to be done a lot more often if you want the truck to last. The manufacturers main concern is about making money off of us, not so much at building something that's going to last without any issues.
I been dealing with diesels my whole life and I can reassure you, changing fuel filters often is a must. I wouldn't go past 15000 miles one bit. You really shouldn't go much past 10000 in my opinion. Especially with the cp4 pump.
On my 21 I'll be changing every 8000 to 10000 miles. Might be over kill, but it's a heck of a lot cheaper then a completely new fuel system, or engine.
Greats stuff pal👍🏻
I'd like to get one of those books with your logo on it
Awesome man, I’m going to look into it.
@@moostang09 I've only been watching your videos for a short while.but I check to see if you upload everyday.mustang vids or truck.
I think I’ll keep mine stock for now
Thanks big dawg!!!!
What's the advantage of this? It's just like the factory plugs of the plastic filter, they too can pop off. Is this just for looks or is it a better filter?
The plastic caps are defective and get a pinhole in them. It will cover the inside of your engine bay with fuel. I had mine do it with 28k miles on my f250 platinum.
@@show2ime how you like it. Any problems?
Same, I’ve had it happen as well.
What is the micron difference between the motorcraft and the Baldwin.
motorcraft upper filter blocks 5 microns while the baldwin blocks 4.
@@cameronparke9712 thank you!
Is there enough slack in the fuel lines to change the spin on filter without disconnecting the lines? If not, there is nothing accomplished with this "upgrade"
Anybody use a disaster prevention kit with this
Check the warnings on the H & S website.
Every aftermarket part company has warnings or fine print on their products. It’s to cover them in case something goes wrong the end user doesn’t come after them in a lawsuit. Pretty straightforward stuff in the aftermarket auto industry... Don’t like it, don’t mod it. I bet FASS has similar verbiage somewhere on their site.
@@moostang09 Wrong, it states it does not void warranty. The other aspect of the H & S is it don't improve filtration. So what is the real point of doing it?
@@moosergs did you even fucking watch the video?
Why on earth would you install that filter? How many microns does this filter? Here are the warnings listed on the H & S website. The stock filter works down to 4 microns that's why I asked what this filter does. I'm installing FASS fuel system which will filter down to 2 microns and that system has many other benefits.
Still liking the conversion kit?
Will it void your factory warranty
its not pressurized?
I think u need prime 6 times !
Would this fit a 2012 Ford F-350
Well done
I do my fuel filters every other oil change
Do they have this for gasoline engines aswell?
Not needed on gas. This filter is only on diesels.
We have the same vehicles, 5.0 mustang and 17+ powerstroke haha
Now way, that’s dope!! What’s all done to your 5.0?
Just a procharger, id1050x, BAP and tuned by Lund
Haha, super casual with the just a procharger. Nice man do you race at all?
Yeah I’ve probably done like 30 passes or so with it at the track. It’s an MT82 car best I’ve done so far is 10s but I’m on 93 and the lowest boost pulley. Trapping 130mph so I can’t imagine what it would run with a 6r80
Come come the blue line goes on first where the brown line was
So, what's the advantage over the stock filter ?
My stock filter leaked out of the little round nipple on the top. Pissing diesel straight up.
The brown clip has a small plastic barb in it that can easily snap off under routine oil changes. There is the safety aspect in that but also the Baldwin filter is supposed to be of much higher quality than the OEM stuff. Not sure the specifics on that, I guess I more so took the internets word on it..
Baldwin filters are junk
I guess I’m gonna beat a broken record. Why change these when fords proven that motor craft is best for your fords? Especially their filters for them
Oh I'm sure they did, since they want your money. Literally every big company uses baldwin.
Pretty simple, that plastic housing can break...
The money people spend replacing perfectly good parts on these trucks is astounding!
@@billrector my EOM motorcraft filter cracked on me yesterday and there was fuel all over the engine bay.
@@billrector it’s not perfectly good, a lot of people have had serious problems with broken fuel filters, fuel filter connectors breaking, that have even led to trucks burning to the ground.
I don't see how the problem of them popping off is solved because you used the same factory lines. 🤔
because the actual problem is the plastic fuel filter not the connections themselves the one he cuts is the only line that normally has the issues
For a 2016
Why? I don't get the point of making that mod for an aftermarket filter.
The plastic filter can leak and burn your truck down
This video could have been 10:12 shorter
Love your F250 videos, but I don’t see the point in this mod.
Siiiiiiiick
That 90• fitter leak like a shit
On the fence on doing this mod- as much as I don't want to ever experience a fuel line issue causing my truck to burn- this scenario in my mind shows me this:
-Modification is easy and not expensive (either DIY or indy shop install), makes sense better than plastic....but then the what if happens...a leak and a fire
-Truck is a total loss and (for this scenario) you and your family are lucky survive (feel free to change your scenario to worst case here).
ME in court: I chose to do this mod as a preventative maintenance/safety issue
FORD lawyers: "well- the thing is- it was no longer OEM after the modification- and we have not issued any recalls- therefore not our problem...So sorry, have a nice day"
Why would Ford be involved, or any lawyers for that matter?
Why not just cut all 3 conecters off if that's the problem to begin with? Put a clamp on all 3.😏
Does not appear to be much of a reliable design. Time will tell.
Agreed!
The BMP design is quite a bit better IMO. It actually mounts to the truck and not with a cuzie!
@@DaRoach5882
BMP design? A year ago you mentioned it.
And for those like me that are challenged, what does BMP stand for so I can research.
Thank you in advance.
Gg