Six Zero Ruby & Black Diamond 14mm First Look
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:22 - Initial Thoughts of Black Diamond 14mm
1:59 - Black Diamond 14mm vs Hurache-X Control+ 14mm
5:20 - Ruby 14mm Initial Thoughts
9:58 - The Reasons You Usually Choose a 14mm vs Not
10:53 - J2K 16mm Vs Ruby 14mm vs AZUL 16mm
13:17 - Why You Should Compare Different Reviews
14:24 - Final Thoughts on Black Diamond 14mm vs Hurache-X Control+ 14mm
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I played with the DBD 16mm for 6 months. Now switched to the Ruby 14mm. I love the extra power and spin. Haven't noticed any vibration issues whatsoever.
Thanks for the thorough walk-through of your thoughts on these! I agree, it takes watching a few reviews to get an idea of whether a paddle might be a good fit or not for any one person.
Love these quick early looks!
Chris taking not getting his own six zero paddle personally 😮
3.5 edition J2K paddle incoming!
I dont get the vibrations issue if you primarily game an elongated a hybrid youre prob hitting off the top so no wonder they vibrate. I can play with any paddle shape and I dont ever feel vibrations. Weird.
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The J2K paddle is definitely a great paddle to try out if you’re looking for more forgiveness with your shots and looking to save money. Hats off to Six zero for making more options for those who like playing with a 14mm.
I enjoyed your first look video. I agree with you that the player will need to decide which paddle is best for them and their game. Thank you Chris and Aizec.
I appreciate the review, Chris & Aizec. People that like a 14mm will have good options here in the Black Diamond and Ruby.
Love the first look video - I was very much in the "must get Ruby" train, until the J2k popped up on my feeds, now I have one on the way. PS thought I was going crazy @12:53 with the Discord notification lol.
😭 Waaaah I’m Aizec and I felt a little vibration so I hate it (again). Dude just put 100 lbs of weight on it and you’ll love it. I’m only kidding but seriously you need to tan your arms evenly.
The Pickleball Studio discord was lit on fire after this review!
I like how you introduced these but also gave us more affordable options to consider. Thanks guys! P.S. I have the DBD 14mm, I don't care for the vibrations. Wish I had gone with the 16mm.
I still love the paddle review videos the best! Good stuff as always. Thanks :)
I'm loving the hand speed and pop on Ruby 14. Haven't noticed any vibration issues
I have the 14mm ruby, 14mm hurache Kevlar and 14mm hurache x control+ and the ruby is also my least favorite. The hurache Kevlar and control+ are amazing paddles.
Great stuff Chris! Read my mind: these are for people who really value mobility or already really liked their Ruby/BD 16 and want the increased power 👌🏼
The J2K seems like a great paddle at a really competitive price. Number 1 on my next paddle list. Waiting on my Spartus Apollo which i ordered mainly because of your review. I watched other reviewers take on it just to confirm. Subbed!
Have you tried the Chorus Shapeshifter?
Great vid Co-Host 😉
I've been contemplating the 14mm 11six24 thanks for the review. I currently own the 16mm version of these paddles and I still use both but I do favor the Hurache X
Thanks
Did you only try the j2k or did you try the j2k pro as well and is that an upcoming video
I liked Aizec's take on the 11SIX24's 14mm version of the Control+. I have the H-X C kevlar 14mm and it's heavier than you'd think (8.3 oz) with a decent twist weight so you don't have the stability and off-center hit drawbacks of typical 13-14mm paddles.
Great first look. I really appreciate giving some alternative paddles to consider like you did here. You did a nice job of reminding people that the paddles from Six are decent. It is a shame you have to do that but it is important to remove the misinterpretation of what you are saying.
Thanks for your video. Ruby is very similar to the upcoming Hudef Mage Gen 2.
I went from the 16MM to the 14MM Ruby. Definitely more hand speed and put away pop. Not experiencing any huge vibration issues. Paddle reviews are subjective. I wouldn't count this paddle out. Demo it and see if its good for you!
Any comparisons on the Hurache-X Control Kevlar 14mm and 16mm compare to the Ruby 14mm and 16mm?
What are the best alternatives to the Luxx Invicta shape? Having spray on grit problems need carbon fiber or Kevlar.
I have a Ruby 16mm and I recently played with Selkirk Power Air Invikta... Would you say it is similar pop/reset feel as the ruby 14mm or should i go for black diamond 14mm to get that same feel?
Chris double handed top spin dinks on point
Where does the different thicknesses, and CF & Kevlar huraches compare to each other for you? Love the CF 16, but do wonder what the main differences are for the other options
I have the DBD 14mm and been waiting for the Ruby 14 mm.......... but want to see who the regulatory body ends up being before investing in any new paddles. I think waiting for the paddle to be on the market for a few months before buying probably makes sense.
I honestly felt like the j2k was a fine paddle but the handle felt super short to me it wasnt comfortable for me to put 2 hands on my backhand at all. J2k really wasnt my speed but I see why everyone likes it.
I bought and returned one for that reason. It’s very subtly shorter but it made a difference with my big hands.
What about feel and control? Not mentioned in the comparisons...
It's nice that Isaac let's his brother talk some on this channel. Hopefully Isaac and Will continue to let Chris show up for the podcast as well, Chris has lots of good comments.
J2k is so good my fav paddle to use right now
Chris, in stead of j2k 16mm vs ruby 14mm, I suggest you should 😅compare Tempest tko 14.3mm to ruby 14mm. That should be more interesting 😀
I recently picked up a Black Diamond Infinity for the low swing weight and being a pain when missing the sweet spot because it's forcing me to hit more consistently.
Easy power on the BDI and so much fun to play with! Get it weighted properly though 😉
For what it's worth, the DBD 14mm has a good amount of vibration which I have been using for months now and I absolutely love that paddle. Not all paddles fit for everyone and the Ruby 14mm is a paddle I will be buying since it's basically the same paddle as the DBD but with a different surface.
Most all of that vibration goes away if you add lead tape. Helped my game go up a level especially when playing against harder hitters. And since it’s a 14mm, you won’t be losing any noticeable hand speed. You gain stability, pop and feel! Win/win!
@@simplysimplemobiledetailin529 Yup I did that and it's a game changer for sure
I thought the j2k had noticeably less pop than the 16mm ruby, so I'm not sure why it would have similar pop to the 14mm ruby
Can you review the Franklin tour paddles?
Love the Tuba and the new music is just a bit loud. Also not a fan of the feel of fiberglass and fiberglass blends.
Hoping you two guys review the THOMPSON. I'm lovin mine being a "feel" guy.
I like your crossing guard shirt
You’re missing out not adding weight to the 14mm. You get a good bit of stability back and keep the stiffer feeling face. I’d be curious to see if someone could weight up a 14mm to similar twist/swing weights as the 16mm and compare.
It’s not just the thickness that you’re noticing on the shots. It’s probably the (lack of) mass.
That part! Most people don’t realize how adding weight can/will completely enhance the play of a paddle!! And at that point you can be comparing apples to oranges. The DBD without weight is one of the best paddles right outta the box. You add weight to it and it becomes a superhero! My fave-the BD isn’t much outta the box, but you add weight to it, it’s Thanos in comparison to the Avengers!! 😎😎😎
I’ve ordered my BD 14mm and can’t wait! I usually get the weight on any of my 14mm paddles up to 8.8 🤓😎
Proxr?
Chris i heard that the J2K has a shorter handle than DBD effectively bc of wider taper. Is it long enough for 2 hands?
It is a little bit shorter. I can put two hands on it, but definitely not as comfortable as I would prefer with other paddles.
When did Pat Smith start reviewing paddles?
I ordered my J2K 9 days ago and it hasn’t shipped. They posted they are fully stocked 3 days ago 😢
Almost there, we have a ton of orders and we will get through everything before the end of the week. Thank you for being patient.
@@CEMESTEBAN thanks for the reply! The wait will be worth it I’m sure 👍
I got an email saying mine shipped...but USPS is still waiting for it.
@@btreese7 same here.
Mine was part of the May 31st pre-order. A shipping label was created and then it arrived at the post office (Edmonton, Canada) for pick-up June 14th. So maybe expect around 2 weeks? Really enjoying this paddle so far due to the lower swing weight, good pop, and more power than my Loco. I got it for playing women's doubles while my Loco is awesome for playing right side in Mixed (more control and very good at blocks and great maneuverability when I am targeted with speed-ups).
Great review and opinion. Players are going to get better as they play and practice more. Theyre going to start picking up on the subtle nuances of paddles to cater to their game. Everyone’s different and at a different stage. Its great that youre alluding to this. Its disappointing that your bro didnt wear the glasses cause they were dope as hell!
Make a review on the joola Hyperion c2 since the gen 3 got banned
Much needed
In reference to golf. The higher the level the smaller the sweet spot which forces better technique. Hitting a blade iron in golf on the edges really really sucks hitting a huge cavity golf club with huge sweet spots feel great but hide your technique
So we are just gonna ignore Aizec's skinny singles tweener past Chris?
Caught it
Chris, you need some reviews/comparisons that are NOT based on money. Also, maybe divide it further-only elongated, only carbon fiber, only 16mm, only 14mm, etc. Some can’t seem to be subjective enough to recognize the comparisons.
With Will hosting and Aizec killing it, is Chris third string on this channel now?
Just kidding, love the channel, love the content! Keep it up!
Going to stick to my 16mm ruby and pass in this . Probably will get the Apollo or the Volaire Mach 2
there's another reason ppl buy 14mm paddles: they're usually lighter so there's more room for customization w/o getting too heavy.
And I find I have more touch with them too!
It needs to become a common saying in the PB community.
IF YOUR GRIP BAND IS TOUCHING THE PADDLE, IT WILL MAKE A WEIRD VIBRATION ALMOST LIKE A SPRING IN YOUR PADDLE
Yikes. Was looking forward to this one but sounds like it’s a dud. I enjoy the 16mm Ruby and have a secondary Shogun. I’ll probably ride these out for a year or so until some new interesting power paddles come out or when Gearbox makes the pricing more reasonable.
discord notification 😆
Why is there a random discord notification sound at 12:52 lol
I thought the exact same thing lol
A bit off subject but what do you think about dbd 16 vs dbd 14?
I’m wondering the same thing
I don't have a DBD 14mm to compare. The only one we had was from a bit over a year ago and that one core crushed back when that was still a big issue.
A 14mm will generally have a tad more touch and power. If I have an option between most any paddle that offers a 16mm and 14mm I’ve always leaned in the direction of the 14mm. And if you really wanna spice it up regardless if it’s 16 or 14, add weight! 🤓😎
BTW, I’ve had both the VP Flash in 14 and 16 and the DBD in 14 and 16. Those were progressions to get me to the preference I have today.
aizec says "oh yes a very low swing weight of 117"
They are both 112 though
@@BigRed22_KC he was talking about the huarache
why does it say 16 minutes ago?
Does this mean that the co-host Chris is going to get his own Six Zero collab after this review 🤔
The Triple and a Half Black Diamond.
I thought the Black Diamond was a fiberglass/carbon fiber composite, no?
I thought so too
Now I know what it feels like to be sponsored by Selkirk, watch the reviews and still buy another Selkirk
"6.0 makes totally fine paddles"
Here is the problem with reviews it’s to hard demo paddles or return. Chris I don’t purchase a paddle without you’re review the only paddle I bought with out you giving a glowing endorsement was the Ruby because I like six zero. With great gifts come great responsibility 😂😂 you did your best to be fair and I was going to purchase these for more pop and power but with out your seal of approval I just caint do… love love all your content I play ruby and black diamond
Bruh this before a proxr review?!?
ProXR video is being edited.
If the grit on the 14 Ruby lasts as long as the 16 then plan on needing a new paddle in 2 months.
Thanks for saving me some 💰!
Wow lots of people on discord are unhappy about this review😂
Infinity Ruby when? 😂
I need a BD Infinity 14mm 🤓😎
Shitting all over six zero after they decided to go with pickleball will is crazy 😜
Mannnn these reviews are deteriorating. Like you should be encouraging people to demo paddles more not saying “THIS IS TRASH, cause I like something else.”
Not once did we say that these paddles are “trash” we are simply giving our opinions based on how we play the game to help people make a decision when buying a paddle. Not everyone has the opportunity to demo paddles, so they will seek out other’s opinions. Does that mean our opinions are absolute and accurate for everyone? No. And that’s why we stress so much that just because we aren’t fans of these paddles that doesn’t mean no one will like them. We even go as for to tell you to watch other reviews because not everyone’s play style matches ours. But for the people that do, they will now have a good idea of how this paddle might play for them.
@@AizecOlson My bad, I rewatched the video and it is very fair. I latched onto the negative stuff and that’s just me being dumb.
TLDR: There are better paddles and cheaper options. Got it
How about the Viva Pro Gen 3
Chris....stop apologizing for Six Zero....they made a paddle that is meh ....and it is not a Ruby that people who used the 16mm will want to go try
Respectfully paddles really are a case by case basis and how it feels to each individual player. I have pretty opposite feelings of Chris and I’m a 4.5. The BD 14 is really good in my opinion. I’ve been playing well with it against good comp. I don’t notice any vibrations. It’s more of a power and pop paddle so some added weight helps with stability. It’s not a bad paddle, it’s just not Chris’ kind of paddle, that’s all. Both models will sell out when they drop. An average review won’t slow 6.0 down. They have a lot of new paddles on the way. They are on the come up. Just not Chris’ style and that’s okay.
@@BigRed22_KCyou are right but on the same token, there are plenty of better paddles than 6.0 offerings and more affordable. What made 6.0 blow up was that they innovated and brought a
Paddle that was ahead of its time and if they want to stay relevant, they need to innovate and bring something new and different to the market. People will still buy and they will sell out because it has become a known brand, but that doesn’t mean that they are offering the best tech/design in paddles available… Plus the prices keep increasing.
The excitement would have been greater a year ago. Especially during his DBD phase.
@@hruntingsonyea they waited too long. I would’ve easily bought the Ruby 14mm had it come out when the Ruby was initially released. I’m glad it didn’t because it forced me to look at another option that I would’ve never looked at.
i used the DBD 14 for 6 months then got the Ruby...on a whim I grabbed the DBD after 6 months of the Ruby and I hated my DBD...I have a feeling, the 14mm Ruby will be the same as the DBD and I am not interested...sorry six zero...I have 4 Rubys so you didn't totally lose me
It depends on what you’re looking for in a paddle and why. The only thing I liked about the Ruby 16mm was the spin. I got the same spin or better in other options and setups. Just depends on your game and what you’re looking for.
Honestly terrible review. Continually saying this other brand has a cheaper version is not constructive.
Entire review about off-center hits. 😂
I’ve about had enough with all these paddle reviewers. Most is just noise. Learn to play!
Spoiler: don’t buy the paddle
I can tell you’re starting to get lazy with reviews
I wonder if adding grip tape to the 14mm paddles would help with stability? @pickleballstudio
I don’t think grip tape will do much for ANY paddle besides aesthetics. However, lead tape can drastically change ANY paddles playing characteristics.
Lot of j2k hype , bought mine and it was unplayable …. Break in period ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Unplayable how? I'm relatively new, have a J2k on the way, not sure what to look for in something that's "unplayable"
@@buffalufacus i may have not allowed a break in period for it, but i found it took a lot of swinging to generate comparable power to other paddles I have. Also had a lot of mishits and errors. Maybe an off day but whatever money I saved with it didnt make up for how it played..