Marvels Darkest Story Ever Made
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2022
- Marvel Ruins written by Warren Ellis and Art by Cliff Nielsen Terese Nielsen and Chris Moeller
Marvel Ruins covers a What if take on the Marvel universe where everything went horribly wrong and a Reporter feels as though the world could’ve been Greater.
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goddamn the art in this comic is insane
I wonder why there is a sudden change in styles tho but i agree
It's the one thing I can say without a doubt is great about the comic.
Reminds me of Max Payne
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@@UltimateSpiderMan naah its like the boys but more realistic
okay you’re right
it is max payne 1
I do think it's interesting that there actually appears to be no magic in this universe. All the magic based heroes are just insane people.
i would definetly like to see what happened to doctor strange in this video
@@theshakespearencow1945 I can come up with a simple yet effective one - Doctor Strange in the RUINS universe is a doctorate of phyiscs and upon inventing interdimensional travel, he accidently exposes himself to the field inadvertently proving teleportation but killing himself via quantum displacement.
@@theshakespearencow1945 he probably just is the same as he was in his backstory, a sad, broken surgeon who cant do what he loves anymore because his hands are destroyed
I'd be willing to bet that in ruins, Nepal is in a religious purging and completely ruined the school of mystic arts cause of heresy and witchcraft, or that the school of mystic arts is some king of murder sect that completely brainwashed strange or straight out killed him.
@@MAGNUSWAKERS or he just dies in his car crash like how Daredevil got killed by his radioactive truck.
The reason why Galactus body is just floating in space its because after Silver Surfer ripped himself appart, he didn't have someone to help him finding new worlds to eat and died of hunger
Why he didn't just eat Earth tho? There was nobody to protect it, no Avengers, no X-Men, no Fantastic Four
@@looniemoonie5955 didnt the silver surfer find earth first and tell galactus? So then without his help galactus wouldnt have been able to find earth in time
@@shanbogard9361 Yeah, maybe by the time he came to the solar system he became just a floating dead body in space
That's not how that works
This befuddles the absolute shit out of me because Galactus is one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse (depending on the iteration/ issue/ author and on how satiated he is). Furthermore, Galactus literally cannot die, sure, Thor killed him, but he was revived. Galactus cannot die. He is "fated" to see the end of the universe and be reborn in the next. During his fight with Odin, he was able to fight telepathically and telekinetically: he could find Earth using his mind even if he was on the other side of the universe. HE CAN FLY SEVERAL TIMES FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT. There is no way that he wouldn't have been able to find Earth and consume it before he died.
I feel if Thanos existed in Ruins his attempt at doing the snap just ends in the entire universe being destroyed.
Probably this Thanos became a leader of a death cult and either went in a goose chase for the infinity stones that don't exist or he finds them but upon getting them all together in the gauntlet vaporized him and his cult due to a power serge or something.
Tbh with the theme of Ruins in mind when Thanos was born his society probably didn’t accept him and his differences like they do in the main continuity. They probably studied and experimented on him just like the government with banner.
I imagine he would find the stones with no resistance, but the energy they emit when he uses them kills him before he puts this world out of its misery
Or his mother succesfully killed him.
"I call it a mercy."
Its so creepy how peters disease is meant to look like his spider suit in a way.
There's actually a canonically reason for that
Jjaden1277, what’s the reason?
I just noticed that on his arm and when his hand is in the same gesture when he’s about to shoot a web.
@@marcussantos4816 yeah I realized that to. Weird
@@lucky_shot5989 yeah
I love how fundamentally wrong the world of Marvel Ruins are. Whenever someone almost achieved greatness and become either superhero or supervillain, they instead become something else that could, realistically, go wrong if depicted in more realistic lenses.
lol I don't know why early marvel writers thought radiation was a power up, it would horrifically rot you from the inside out period
@@MGrey-qb5xz must likely because at the time it was the easiest way to explain powers without saying that they were an alien or something.
Pretty much lol, quicksilver literally went so fast his limbs fell apart
@@MGrey-qb5xz Now gamma radiation is a magic power granted to those who attained it by basically Satan, it's as funny as it sounds
@@aydenroman6329 True, realistically speedster is so fragile even running at the speed of top speed car will destroy their body in a matter of seconds. Maybe it's the reason why they required a secondary power to mitigate the side effects
Warren Ellis. The man who hates superheroes more than almost anyone else on earth.
Also, Silver Surfer wasn't destroyed from the inside out. He felt like he was suffocating because he no longer needed to breathe, so he ripped his own chest open in a desperate attempt to get air in his lungs.
This book is grim as hell.
Funny thing is, that Charles had no problems with his powers, he just can control them and become President, but Erik cannot. Also, scene in prison is very heartbreaking, my poor boy Quicksilver got his hand and legs cut off.
@@TawakeBaka He and Kitty were heartbreaking.
@@stevencooper564 Yep. That was hard to watch. Also Jean and Logan. Like, slowly decaying, hardcore shit. I think worse of this is Bruce destiny. He is a giant tumor, but still alive.
Garth Ennis is worse
I don't really think he hates superheroes that much. There are writers who have done worse things to superheroes just because they had the chance to write them. Garth Ennis is the classic example, but his time on the Punisher and Nick Fury caused a lot of controversy with Marvel, to the point where George Clooney had to say no to a Nick Fury movie because of the horrible things Fury did in the comic.
I don't know why, but galactus floating in space dead is the funniest thing ever.
Like let him hill god damn
Peak comedy 😄
Eh hem Marvel Zombies Dark resurrection
is THAT a JoJO REFERENCE
Honestly ye, like Silver Surfer really fucked up missing all those planets lmao
Just for some people's information:
Ruins was actually released as a sort of dark reflection, a parody, of the Comic Miniseries "Marvels", which is a magnificent 4-issue short story depicting the entire 616 Marvel Comic Universe from the point of view of a regular civilian, a reporter named Phil Sheldon. it's actually a really great miniseries and I always recommend that all fans should read this at least once in their life time.
So yeah, if you're thinking, this is just so obviously trying to be edgy and dark, you're right! it's just supposed to be a sort of joke story parodying a better story. Ruins didn't even get 4 issues like Marvels did, it only got 2 issues. that should tell you how seriously you should take this story.
I've read Ruins (friends recommendation), but never read Marvels (I'm a bit more of a DC guy), so I guess I'll search for it.
Sounds like Marvel's response to Kingdom Come.
@@DarkPascual actually funny thing, Kingdom Come and Marvels' Art were both handled by Alex Ross! so if you loved Kingdom Come, You'll love Marvels.
also: if anything, Kingdom Come is DC's answer to Marvels, as Marvels was Published in 1994 and Kingdom Come was in 1996. but they're both amazing comics.
The Main Difference between the two is more of how the story is laid out, as Marvels is more of a throwback to the history of Marvel, while Kingdom Come is like looking forward, since it deals with the future.
@@RaixsOreh i think i will
take this comic very seriously, think you for the information bro 👍
@@DarkPascual Other way around. Marvels came first, Kingdom Come rode the coattails.
Okay, if this is the case then it's a VERY important piece of context that OP should not have missed when describing the story. Poor research it seems.
The horrific art style adds to the tragedy. The stencle shading and realistic detailed faces are distorted in the worst possible way making it seem like everyone is in the maximum amount of discomfort. This was really depressing to watch but I always have had the thought of what Marvel heroes would look like if they had the "bad ending".
good lord,imagine just getting out of bed then u saw a DEAD galactus floating out of space
Start a go fund me to send people to space to fetch his body so that we may feast on his cosmic flesh.
I would definitely hate to live in the Ruins if that ever happened. Time to hop off to another universe.
@@God-vl8qo Bro didn't Marvel Zombies prove that exploring mysterious Galactus Corpses only leads to what can universally be classified as bad news bears?
Typical day in Ohio
Remind us so much of his upcoming future corpse later seen in Marvel Zombies Resurrection.
Fun fact the wiki states
It's implied that Ben Grimm's refusal to pilot Reed Richards' spaceship to study cosmic rays, the event that would've created the Fantastic Four, was the catalyst for this dark Earth. Though judging by Nick Fury's comments about Captain America teaching him to eat human flesh (i.e. "cannibalism") during World War II, this may also have been the event that created this dark reality/Earth.
FF were the first hero family so them being the catalist for it all to go wrong makes sense IMHO.
@@obsidianfrost9514 captain america events was first than ff. your comment makes no sense.
@@wolvewick4414 it's implied but who knows how and when or even why.
The universe was wrong, and even with a rogue cap the FF could of been the nail that sealed the universes fate. Hell Galactus died and floated in space
@@wolvewick4414 It wouldn't make much sense in continuity, but it would make meta sense. The Fantastic Four made Marvel exist, and while Captain America was successful in the golden age of comics, he wouldn't have come back if Marvel hadn't been saved by the Fantastic Family.
Still, as I always say, never trust the wiki *too* much.
@@wolvewick4414 Captain was first…but it’s the FF that Marvel owes everything to
Marvel ruins would make for the perfect stand alone R rated movie
@@christianosanjo if the writing is good this could work
Remember that one show
Yeah It could be awesome and Dark In the same time
you don't even need the same actors. just similar ones
@@Skullei yeah lol
disney would never
I find it fascinating that Ben was the only hero in this story that didn't went insane or died terribly, kinda contrasting with his fate in the 616 universe where he was the only one of the Fantastic Four who had his appearance permanently altered by the cosmic radiation and was the one that suffered the most with his powers out of the group
There's also a Valkyrie flying by the window when Phil is on the plane with Mystique. That is perhaps the single little bit of hope for this desperate and hurting universe
And then she gets eaten alive by crows.
Based on the fact that Valkyries are supposed to lead people back to the afterlife so they can fight another day, I don't think that's really a good sign as it is a "well, this is shitty, but at least we can pull people out of the rubble and get them to somewhere nicer."
@@greenpiersystem Accept in this universe, they actually drag them to hell.
@@iamthemouse4483 They're all on drugs. The hallucinations are making them bring back the worst possible people. At the final battle of Valhalla, all there is is a bunch of elderly women and cancer patients with swords. Every Norse god is eaten by Yggdrasil, and this reality falls apart. Meanwhile, The Batman Who Laughs suffers a massive rectal prolapse, and his last words are "I loved you, Two-Face."
Weird how things like mutations, Galactus, Silver surfer, etc. are adapted pretty faithfully but simply had sad endings while characters like Thor and Ghostrider are these weird real world edge lord adaptations. There's some interesting ideas here but the inconsistency is kind of distracting and makes me wonder what the point of it all is. The art is nice though.
Also, no mention of how Phil Sheldon is the protagonist of Kurt Busiek and Alex Ross's Marvels series? It's a really great read
It is a mirror image of the 616 universe. If everything is fine there, the heroes win, and mutations give amazing super-abilities, then everything is bad here, mutations bring only suffering and painful death.
There was even a phrase, for every light there is darkness. The meaning of the comic is to show this mirror world and it is so terrible precisely because of the way the original universe is.
Interestingly, being a reflection, this universe is the most realistic.
@@user-ux4pf7bw8w No I get the idea, I'm saying that the execution is inconsistent and cheapens it. Thor is just a mentally insane normal man but Galactus is still a giant planet consuming purple space-being, he's just dead?
There's nothing wrong with making a "dark" version of these stories, but it feels like they didn't put more thought into it than that
@@samuelshaw7730 One of the first painels has Thor's hammer. I think some painels also show Valkaries, so it is possible that there is more than one Thor in this incarnation.
@@samuelshaw7730 The most edge part of the comic is the Nick Fury, he shoots some people just because and then commits suicide. These things apart, I was invested in the world and I wanted to know why that universe 'went bad.' (I don't think Ellis has an answer, though. He probably just made the concept and went from there.)
@@samuelshaw7730 i think it might be the same origin story as the MCU, with Thor being banished from Asgard and forced onto Earth. It would make sense that people would just think he's crazy in that case. Even darker, we can assume Loki took the throne
This is literally if Garth Ennis was allowed to make a Marvel Comic
This is actually darker and more depressing than The Boys and even Marvel Zombies.
Didn't he write the Punisher kills Marvel Universe?
@Zer0 just make every superhero a racist/pedophile and boom, it's a Garth Ennis story
Correction
He would just make another The Boys
Ive read both this and a mix of good and bad ennis comics, this comic is written nothing like any ennis comic ive read lol
I was really hoping that Phil would make the story. That was such a twist and sad ending.
Same it made me sad
And its even sadder that no one stopped and read his notes either
Although this world is designed to be a mirror image of the original 616 universe, it is also the most realistic. All these bites by mutated animals, exposure to gamma radiation, and exposure to cosmic radiation could not lead to anything but a painful death ... Or suffering worse than death.
I'm glad for Ben (the thing), at least somewhere he was lucky and he remained a man and did not suffer ... unlike the others. And all because he thought of refusing to fly with them on this crazy mission.
It does somewhat seem to imply that if Ben was there they would have become the normal fantastic four.
@@willnorman-bargo Or he would have died a horrific death just as well. The question here is not whether they would become the classic Fantastic Four with Ben, but whether they would escape the rays of cosmic radiation. If not, I'm sure nothing good would come of it anyway. Here the whole irony is that Ben in the original universe, due to his transformation, turned into a monster and suffered from it. Of course, this is not Banner turned into an abomination with a bunch of cancerous tumors, but the fact is that where the miraculous abilities of other heroes turned into a terrible nightmare, he avoided it and remained normal. Good for him.
He is suffering survivors guilt daily, you can tell he thinks he could have prevented it had he been there.
@@user-ux4pf7bw8w the whole reason they OD'd on cosmic rays with Doom was because he couldn't do it in time, Doom was a fucking nerd. Grimm was an airforce pilot with lots of experience, it's heavily implied that the reason everything went to shit was because Grimm had common sense.
Seems like an awful read. Like it’s comical the level of bad things happening in it. Really try hard, like “the Hulk got irradiated then he blew up all over a bunch of orphans and gave them aids then the orphans grew up to be meth heads and blew out their brains. I started laughing when it went from Cap feeding Fury human meat then hooker Jane came out then Fury shot himself
The spookiest part about Galactus floating around Mars is that he was so close to Earth before he evidently starved to death.
I thought that he was just headed our direction and then died halfway, leaving his body to just float towards us but that seems alot more grim and I luv it lol
I woulda expected the punisher to be kinda the same in ruins. His life was already fucked up
I'm not shocked by it. He had so many enemies. And in reality its really easy to get shoot.
He had it better in this timeline if anything. He was finally put out of his misery.
i love dark comics but this one genuinely feels way too edgy, art is amazing though
the edgy parts are bast moments in this comic in my opinion
Yeah, it felt a little tryhard.
Idk I wouldn't call it "edgy"(it is) but some parts felt kinda boring and predictable
Some of its good but stuff like iron man just becoming a serial killer is a bit out of the blue and seems like it was just trying to be edgy
"By the way, captain America made me a canable"
*shoots Jean Grey who is a prostitute *
Refuses to elaborate *
Kills self
This feels AI generated
The scene with the punisher shot dead,
while tragic is shockingly realistic and not too far off thematically. Here you have is a man of the law who had lost his family from the mob and now he devotes his life on a violent path of vengeance, vowing to destroy all those who "wronged" him. Even when he eventually eliminates his enemies his continues on his futile quest for "justice" and due his past and his current actions he can never even attempt return to a normal life. By abandoning his principles and disregarding due process and innocence till proven guilty, he becomes the very thing he is trying to get rid of. A broken man like Frank Castle is more of less destined to die like that.
Wanda being a soul survivor of the avengers after being granted immunity is the scariest thing knowing that her brother is out there mutilated and dying
And people thought the Ultimate Universe (Earth-1610) was depressing.
Fr man this universe is the most depressing and disturbing. Specially Hulk and Spiderman.
Hulk had became a huge collection of tumors and still alive suffering pain. And Peter who was a normal happy kid student and the cancer he got was painful asf and also changed the way he looked and made him look horrible and SCARY as a demon. Imagine the pain both physically and mentally. imagine being thrown from house and people avoiding you because you look like a monster but once looked like normal humans living life
@@mythomniverse to add insult to injury he literally looks like his suit
@@miracon000fez Which made it much more disturbing it's like the suit melted onto his skin
@@DioBrando-ej6gb plus the way he holds that sheet around him makes his hands look like he's shooting webs, I feel like the creator of the comic just put that there to completely traumatise Spider-man fans
@@miracon000fez true lmao
So, in this universe:
Captain America: Eats human flesh.
Iron man: Became a Serial Killer.
Wolverine: Gets a bone disease and is destined to die.
Punisher: Gets killed.
Silver Surfer: Exploded.
Galatcus: Died of hunger.
Cree Warriors: Living in the worst conditions.
Black Panther: Sent to jail.
Hawkeye: Executed in public.
Nick Fury: Gave up in everything.
Dark Pheonix: Becomes a hooker.
Bruce Banner: Becomes a tumor monster, destined to suffer.
Darkholme: Kills herself.
Magneto: Becomes a hippie.
Professor X: Tortures mutants.
Cyclops: Got his eyes burned, getting tortured.
Nightcrawler: Getting tortured, most likely dying of hunger.
Quicksilver: Got all his limbs cut off, being tortured.
Thor: is just a crazy doctor.
Jhonny Blaze: Died by putting his head on fire, screaming as he used the motorcycle.
Reeds: Died of cosmic radiaton, wich made him stretch to death.
Jhonny Storm: Got burned to a molecular level.
Suzan Storm: Died of cosmic radiaton.
Peter Parker: Got a disease from the spider, that will eventually kill everyone that touches him.
I thought that Zombies and Ultimate were alr dark asf, but this universe is something else. Everything is destined to fail.
Emma frost : still Emma frost
Princess python: does illegal stuff with her python
Rick jones and Marlo Chandler : Morphine addicts
Daredevil: died from chemicals that blinded him
Bucky,Sabertooth, and Nomad: are fascist cannibals
Kingpin: warden of a mutant prison
Daimon Hellstrom: has a fistula
Marvel could definitely write a horror story if they wanted to. It's nice to see a dark take on the marvel universe done right. That being said who tf hurt these writers like they got to be really messed up.
*DareDevil seen marval ruin matt* DareDevil saying: holy shit we both Dead marval ruin matt: hehe my Timesline my Frank ls Die too DareDevil saying: Nooooooooooo
And remember kids: Darkness on its own doesn't automatically make your story any good, it just makes you look like an edgy teenager.
Like my 😅🥺
I think I've been like this forever, pray for me please 🥺❤️
I think The reason this universe is interesting is because we know what It COULD have been like, but yeah it's pretty edgy
Coughcough the Bois coughcough
@@spidey5558 The comic for sure but the show has moments of people being good and giving hope that things will get better.
to think that the ending of infinity Wars destroyed me, to see this story come to life would break my heart even more
Utter man child
If everything goes wrong in that universe, how’d they even get past the stone age?
Thrugg invent wheel, get run over.
Mung invent farming, die of food poisoning.
Wurt invent pants, get super cancer.
Funny cause its the opposite story of MARVEL written by kurt busiek and penciled by the legend itself alex ross so even the way the panel are made are kind of a reflection of what marvel look like. (Amazing book btw). Really interesting concepts on the marvel. Great video! Keep it up!
This is a very Souls-like story. Everything is as bad as possible. The whole world is dying. It’s all slowly collapsing into decay. It’s all gradually succumbing to madness. And there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it.
Thanos would be working overtime if he saw this earth
Thanos would probably never stop vomiting if he saw this.
Thanos is probably dead because he most likely managed to bone lady death. Comic Thanos have no chill about saving life, he just want to kill to impress lady death.
@@Some2somewhere He most likely didn't, death does not like him in the slightest. She even tried to kill him
In this universe, Thanos is just some alien bodybuilder that ate too much purple food coloring, did a load of "Infinity" drugs, and went into a catatonic state after committing a terrorist act or something.
The result: Thanos snaps away one half of every organism in the universe, finally killing it, slowly and painfully.
Ironman becoming a serial killer feels like a cheap cop-out tbh, it would have made sense that when Tony escaped he’d increase his weapons production to wipe out the terrorist that captured him, but it inadvertently leads to another nuclear arms race.
Actually what happened to iron man is never clarified, all we know is he got betrayed by scarlet witch and then went up in smoke
Ironman was wounded trying to deescalate the Californian successionist and the us by the us. Due to this he back up the successionist and and their scientists making the avengers a terrorist organization. Hence why they were shot down
Him being a serial killer is so out of nowhere it would be more believable if he was wanted for selling weapons to terrorist groups
I read this comic for the first time today. I’ve read my dad’s trade copy of Marvels many times throughout my life, so upon learning that there was a What If story for it, I had to read it. I expected something dark, but I didn’t expect this. This makes Marvel Zombies look like Adam West era Batman. It was just flat out depressing, seeing all the heroes I grew up with reimagined as withered, rotting, hollow shells of beings. And the returning art style of the original story made the body horror elements all the more horrifying. While I found this to be an interesting read and recommend it to anyone who’s a fan of Marvel, Marvels, horror, and alternate universe story’s I felt emotionally drained after reading it. I may re-read Marvels again as a palate cleanser.
There isn’t really a story here. It’s just a tour through the writer’s edgy Marvel AU.
That’s exactly what this is. It doesn’t feel like it’s trying to actually tell a story or make a point. It just feels more like an excuse to be as ridiculously dark, edgy, graphic, and depressing as possible, and I don’t like that mentality.
@@nicholasmahoney7820 the artwork is fuckin baller though
@@lesshuman00 except the book was never finished due to him getting Radioactive AIDs. So yes, there is no story to it aside seeing misery porn of your favorite heroes.
@@joshwist556 yep
The art style is absolutely incredible, the begginning of the comic being cleaner as we've not been introduced to the terrors of this world, but as the story progresses and the more and more we learn, the more grotesque the art style becomes.
this story is how i feel about the current state of marvel.
Except this comic is great
@@alexkyrylivk5102 he's referring to the part that everything is dying and in shambles
Yeah cheap adaptions of famous comic story lines for mcu fans and general comic story line of woke marvel.
@@MGrey-qb5xz "woke" doesn't have anything to do with marvel's downfall. Bad writing isn't "woke". Grow up.
@Rainbow Rattle Twerking isn't really woke either.
I actually didn't like this comic qnd this is coming froma guy who loves reading dark comics. This comic is just dark for the sake of being dark
I agree with you here man,it’s like the ending of The Boys’ comic,it feels dark just to be dark and sorta seems spiteful
Yeah I agree it was somehow to dark
It’s a great premise but it’s like the comic version of DCs apocalypse war movie
Yeah, it just seems like it's going for shock value rather than trying to make any meaningful point
The only thing I think would give it meaning is if Phillip got to write his book. But nope, it's clear that the writers just want to create the embodiment of despair
"god found dead in space"
I find it interesting that this is the world where Ben Grimm avoids his fate of becoming the Thing. Imagine the psychological toll seeing yourself in that form everyday and being called by the codename "The Thing." Truthfully, every other universe is the one where Ben suffers. In this one, he laments how all his friends perished.
I'm just curious about the Captain America and eating human meat part, like, what? Was he a POW and forced into cannibalism and kept going after?
I figured it's something like the cartels doing cannibalism- to fuck around and cause damage
Awesome video. I’d love some more longer videos like this. You always cover great stories. I especially like the depressing/dark ones. Keep sticking with what you think is good. You got good taste 🤙🏻
Another universes heros should get transported there and see if they can make a difference for however long they are there
They woudl 1: die 2: can't make a difrence 3: they do somethink
I wonder how that would go.
That universe is dead. So I doubt they would make it
@@obsidianfrost9514 well the universe never had actual heroes so if it had actual Thor and people like that I'm sure it might have been better. Or worse who knows it could be good or bad if they went there and a third felt like going punisher on someone after he sees how hopeless it is.
Just like our universe, we kill all our heroes.
"Now Washington D.C. is known for drugs, crime, and havoc" my man it's always been that way, D.C. has always been the city where the poor get poorer and the rich make a penny off it. Its rough as hell.
Maybe the Deadpool of this universe, just looks like himself from X-Men Origins.
Truly a fate worse than death.
"hey you know this character what if their power: but it killed them and they were a bad person."
My theory is that Donald Blake was actually Thor, but nobody believed him and he ended up as a wretch as a result...
Or it was Loki who caused that. Or maybe it was because Odin banished him to Earth, and Thor developed amnesia
That’s actually the hardest ending of all time. This universe was so messed up that the story wasn’t even told in the first place 😂
I honestly think this one is really tryhard. It feels like marvel were really trying to ape the style of Grant Morrison’s Arkham Asylum with the hand painted style and the whole dark, psychological tone but it just doesn’t really work for me. It tries to be really serious and gritty but it just comes across as over the top, the Alien Gulag and the cannibalism just felt like too much to me.
Yeah, tryhard really is the best description. Even Dark Knights Metal wasn't this edgy lol, and even the Kingdom Come and that one batman comic (Arkham Asylum ) make sense with regard to the characters and their motivations, this just feels like Marvel's attempt at DKM but they only had the budget for one comic
Curious about the fate of Dr Strange in this universe, though it's probably going to be him performing horrific experiments on his patients to achieve his "third eye" ala Hellraiser or red skull
Agreed, it seemed like it was this dark just for the sake of being dark
I mean... it's called "Marvel Ruins"
Fr like you’re Marvel Comics not Stephen King
Either "tryhard" or "exploitative"
It's a world with no plot armor.
If I had read this as a child, probably even as a teen, chances are I would have been scarred by it. This is such a twisted story but it's the art especially that drives it home. Looks like Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark.
This is hitting levels of edgy i didn't think exist. Maybe if it was done down a couple of levels it would be so much better
The art is insane though
You don't know what edgy means and how to use is properly
@@anontwentytwo1380 cope
@@anontwentytwo1380 enlighten me please
@@Ahmadabdal_ define "edgy"
@@clnblk7773 anon twentytwo
I believe that the doctor is actually Thor whom was stripped of his powers and forced to live a life as a feeble civilian with a has been past and had gone crazy not being able to pursue his destiny.
There was one thing that always kinda bugged me. Why would Peter need to take a job at the Bugle in a world where Ben was still alive? In most continuities, the only reason that job even stuck out to him was that they wanted pictures of Spider-Man.
Also I wish Ellis had taken the time to hint at what was going on with Xavier. Like, I've read enough X-Men to take a guess and feel pretty confident in it, but still.
Probably just took the job because, yknow, it's a job, and he was unemployed. There wasn't mention of his uncle Ben having passed, but it's Marvel and one of the golden rules is "if there's a Peter Parker, there's a dead uncle Ben"
Isnt xavier become president?
There is still hope for this timeline. Doctor Doom(no way he's down that easy), the infinity stones, the watchers, and, if there lucky, someone from another universe will find them.
Even as a bundle of minerals in a world where nothing does or should go right, Doctor Doom will find a way. Doctor Doom *always* finds a way.
Doom was in the F4 trip. The reason why things went wrong was because Ben refused to go and Víctor took his place
doom died
huh?
Honestly, if Galactus is really dead the universe is fucked. There's no reincarnation, no chance to fix their mistakes, once the universe explodes, that's it. Everything's over. In fact, since Galactus is the only thing that separates Eternity and Death, the ruins universe is probably already dying. Which explains Philip Sheldon's feelings of impending death and destruction.
I like how no one’s talking about the way one of the soldiers was able to pick up Thors hammer like nothing
I think it's because in this world he doesn't exist and it's just a hammer
@@Lilmonky69 think that was the actual thor just without any powers and hes just holding that 'normal' hammer
@@rey_2860 epic sauce
@@rey_2860 He literally says that it isn't actually Thor, just some doctor
@@kadenbaio9758 Thor is a doctor who got powers in the comics.
the only downside of this is that is feels... forced? I get the concept is what if everything went wrong, but for it all to happen so close together that one reporter can be there for all of it... idk
but a cool world is there
Like Jean, Mystic just casually die in front of him
This is just typical day in Chicago
This comic is so edgy I got a papercut just from watching a video about it
😂😂😂 good one 🤣
Quicksilver had me in shock like wtf
I mean it make sense how his legs and arms couldnt handle his very fast speed.
Basically this is what Garth Ennis wanted to do for the boys but realized he wanted to tell a story that instead humiliated them.
The amount of effort and detail that went into every page is inspiring
bro just hit us with the darkest marvel story ever and then asked if we liked it.
Yes. Yes I did.
Oh I remember this... this is one of the worst Universe.. ever in marvel right after Zombies and Ultimate Universe.. but there could be worse and that's interesting
And also punisher kills marvel
In fact, this is the worst universe only for those who should become heroes, miracles. In the same marvel zombies humanity was slaughtered, in many parallel universes the apocalypse happened.... But here, without any superheroes and supervillains, the world lives as it used to live, even Galactus himself died a step away from salvation. This world doesn't need heroes, it's fine as it is. And it is not much worse than ours.
@@user-ux4pf7bw8w the world is literally dying bro wdym 💀
@@videoms1271 No. This world is no different from ours in general terms. The only thing that dies are those who were supposed to be heroes and villains. From the fact that Magneto, Spider-Man and many others died painfully, the world has not changed in any way. Even the problem with aliens like the Kree and Galactus invaders was resolved without heroes.
@@user-ux4pf7bw8w not only humanity, the entire universe died.
The comic is absolutely crushing just seeing your favorite superheros mistreated and in constant pain and agony everything that was supposed to go wrong just went wrong
The most soul crushing scenes were that of Peter. A very friendly and helpful student in one panel brightly smiling and in the other he's just a skinless cancer. That look of despair on his face and how he's holding that blanket will just stick with me for a while it's kind of traumatic to see
“Welp, like that’s ever gonna happen.”
*Closes book£
Somebody once told me-
I like how the one time Ben Grimm (The Thing) finally doesn't suffer an awful fate, it's in a world of pure chaos for everyone else. The single instance you could say he caught a break, it HAD to be in a world where everyone else suffered. Love the poetic shift there.
Thank you for finally talking about marvel ruins
This is the most depressing one I've ever seen....
This is what the Marvel Heroes would be like in our world.
Very well done man, thanks for taking time to share the story
I get what the story is doing, but you know when somebody says: without evil there is no good?
The same goes for this story. Its ONLY torture and suffering and it makes it all...repetative. And it doesn't impact the same way when every single character is tragic and suffers.
It's just too much, too often.
It knows what it is though. It works for a two issue story
Good job. Based on your video and the more realistic outcomes of mutants based in the story I'm going to add this comic to my collection.
I always got the impression that this is only part of some cosmic horror story. Something like that episode of the twilight zone where astronauts survived against all odds and slowly they’re erased one by one with no trace by a force beyond their understanding.
Hell I maintain a theory about ruins that there is a beyonder whispering thoughts into people and making things worse, and that beyonder would look like warren Ellis.
Warren Ellis wrote this soon after his Hellstorm run and it was marvel's attempt to make it's own Vertigo type imprint. The Last Avengers Story was another from this imprint
I can not get enough of the art from this series. It's twisted in a gorgeous way
I smiled when you said he dreamed of the heroes they could have been
The art reminds me so much of scary stories to tell in the dark!
the beautiful style of this really adds so much depth to the story
‘I couldn’t help but tear up a little bit’. That was unintentionally funny.
This just feels really weird, some heroes are given super powers normally while others are just straight up diseased. What’s with the inconsistency, they want to use the common backstories, but then don’t go all the way and instead make up some overly gruesome scenario which occurs instead. It’s just so unnecessarily edgy and doesn’t really care about who the characters are, they just wanted to make a cliche ‘superheroes aren’t really heroes’ story where everyone dies because ‘death is cool’.
Just goes to show that in an alternate universe, that you, yes you. Could be like these people i take this story as a be thankful for what you got kinda story
Agreed.
damn this one hell of a story, just hearing it summarized and with the hint of its imagery it almost
makes me want to cry.
That handsome looking Hulk has been haunting me in my dream for a few days
The art for this was INCREDIBLE.
Imagine this is a plot twist where it's revealed that none of any marvel thing happened and it's all just dreams this guy has been having after wishing for wondrous marvels that make the world a better place.
Man the art is terrifying and beautiful
This is literally Marvel but written by George Orwell
I love dark and gritty stories as much as the uplifting ones and I'm a big fan of Warren Ellis' work.
But this one particularly strikes me as misery p*rn, depressing for the sake of depressing.
The art is great, but the story is not for me.
Couldn't agree more. I loved Castlevania so I was excited to hear Warren Ellis wrote this but this wasn't it.
I’ve always thought this comic would be awesome if we got it in the MCU!!A stand-alone 1 shot/what if?
That’d be so sick, but the MCU would completely ruin the comic and tone down a lot of it. Maybe some day :/
No
Too dark for MCU. They couldn't make a serious Marvel Zombies episode, it was filled with jokes.
@@looniemoonie5955 bruh the actual marvel zombies from the comics still gives me nightmares as an adult, the imagery , the voices , the horrific distortions of your beloved heroes haunts me.
The same MCU which awkwardly shoehorns jokes every 10 seconds in its films? Yeah I'd rather they didn't touch this, they would just ruin it.
Honestly this story doesn't even have a plot it's just a showcase of "How fucked up is fucked up". the art is good but its not enough to care the whole thing
I've seen this story adopted by some of the best....you gained a sub
The way the Mutants are kept in a prison for experiments is sadly the most realistic part of the comic
this is literally so morbid and dark and I love it
Kinda depressing to
Great video, appreciate you sharing it!
Great show guys, thank you
comic so edgy in needed to be printed in four dimentions
Let's face it, if mutants actually existed in our world, _this_ is what reality would be.
we never know
i mean some might try to use there powers for robbery and stuff but others will try and solve them but our population would definitely decrease due to mass destruction
The U.S would try to weaponize them, hell, MK ultra was a real thing and no mutant gene was needed for that shit to happen.
Nah not that much of hell 💀
@@lainhikaru5657would probably backfire tho just look at Manson and TK
Geez that art is amazing!!
that going insane because of all the shapeshifting is brilliant