How NYC's CHOPPED CHEESE has Changed
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The chopped cheese as we know it has existed one way for the last 25 years. But in recent years, the chopped cheese has changed. This is a battle of the classic "OG" chopped cheese invented by Frankie Frank of Hadjii's Deli in Harlem vs the Ocky way invented by Rahim Mohammed of the Red Hook Food Corp in Red Hook Brooklyn. Which would you choose?
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Chopped Cheese: The “OG” vs The Ocky Way
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Thank god. So many chopped cheese recipes online don't actually chop the cheese into the meat. Literally what is the point, its called a "chopped" cheese. The cheese has to be chopped.
thought it was the meat that had to be chopped.
thats because nyc bodegas do not chop the cheese. they chop the burger patty and top it off with cheese.
The beef is supposed to be chopped up and cooked first before u had the cheese because if you put cheese on it too soon your gonna burn the cheese , Then it would be a Burnt Choppy Chop
@@kizzlestacks The funny part is that nobody outside NYC cares. It's a cheaply made sandwich, cheapest ingredients one can find, thrown together like a sloppy joe.
@@silvermediastudio I do. I live in europe. You can't find food like this in my country
I do make it st home, fried chicken, choped cheese, grilled cheese, Mac and cheese, burgers...
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I feel like I am just from watching him make that 😂
Not like stoners would make it. 🤣😂
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Steve, if you make a slurry of xanthan gum with a neutral oil (any oil so just a cheap one), then mix that into the sauce, it'll dissolve much better. Alex did a video on it ages ago, xanthan gum clumps easily in water (or a water heavy sauce like almost every sauce) but it works much better in oil.
I would try your "Ocky Way" yes - but would always order the OG Chopped Cheese every time - Nice job
I would go OG, I don't like messy sandwiches or sandwiches that I have to hunch over and unlock my jaw to eat.
Or food made for a 10 year old. Lmaoooo at 43 I just can’t eat shit like this anymore without suffering 😂. OG with just lettuce tomato
U can go without the cheese. Its literally just a burger but slightly messier.
@@Teach_1ne Cheap ingredients, thrown together, basically a sloppy joe with some cheap latin market spices. Nobody outside a handful of annoying new yorkers even know about it, let alone care. They try to act like it's on par with a Philly Cheesesteak, Boston Lobstah Roll, Bawlmer Softshell or crab cake sandwich, Texas brisket sammie, or a Nawlins Po'Boy. Just ain't gonna happen.
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Interesting. A sandwich has to be messy for me. If I have to hunch over to eat it, I know it’s good.
I was raised on chop cheese. I lived a couple blocks from hajisz for sure it happened before 99. I been eating it since 96/97.
Never had one. I live in Las Vegas lol
I live up in the Heights but did work riding around in a truck all day in 2019. Every now and then wed go stop at hajjis for lunch and get some big ass sandwiches
I live in Atlanta, we eat lemon pepper wings all flats no dressing
Nobody cares about chop cheese outside of a two mile radius. It's a trash sandwich, to be frank, on the level of sloppy joe.
@@silvermediastudio ahh you mad
I've never had a chopped cheese before, so I would have to try it both ways! When trying your Ocky Way, though, I would ask for pickled jalapeños chopped into the meat and please add a little adobo juice to your sauce--YUM!
People from New York get so offended when you say a chopped cheese is literally just a chopped up burger on a bun/roll like that’s not accurate lmaooo
I mean besides the seasoning what's the difference??? 😂😂😂
@@oscarmanuelayala7638 there is no difference lmao. But for some reason telling them it’s a cheeseburger on a roll will get them upset quickly lmao
Ik brotha i was just laughing with ya. I make it without the seasonings its still a fucking chopped burger nonetheless. New yorkers just have to be different or its an oncoming aneurism.
@@oscarmanuelayala7638 The place near me adds sliced green peppers along with the onions, so it ends being a little between a cheeseburger and a cheese steak. There's also a texture difference. On a cheeseburger you get a crunchy crust on the patty but the interior is softer. A chopped cheese has no "interior" so all of the beef is crunchier and seared.
It's a cheeseburger, made like a cheese steak, with meat from a taco.
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I love Rahim's attitude and culinary balls! I want to go to NYC just to experience his shit.
Your Ockham way looks delish! I would go with the OG way, though. I would struggle to get my little mouth around that. LOL. Love your channel. You’re my new addiction!
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Me: Could I get that without onions?
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Thank you for posting this video! I watched the video with Frankie Frank that you included in this one. It took me about five minutes, but I was able to do a freeze frame showing the first seasoning he used. I’m 99% certain that it’s the Goya adobo seasoning with the blue cap. They make about five others with different color caps that are different from each other. I knew that FF used something else because he had another jar of seasoning, but it was impossible to read the label on it. I’m going to guess that the Goya Sazonadzor Total (which is amazing) is equivalent to the Badia Complete that you used. I’m going to get some of the seasoning in the packet you used. I will hit my next chopped cheese with all three. I really appreciate this video because the chopped cheese I made before with just the Goya adobo blue was disappointing and I felt like I was missing something. You may have explained how to get from “meh” to “magnificent”.
i dunno bro the chop cheese for me was discovered in E Tremont in the Bronx and everytime I put other people on in New York, no one knew it existed before.
Facts, but us real ones can’t fight the media.
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OG all day only had a chopped cheese once at a random bodega but it was amazing
I use an equal mix of mayo, mustard, ketchup, and sweet pickle relish for my spread on the rolls. Amazing sandwich and much better than any hamburger.
Sweet relish 🤮
Is anyone else spazzing on the the fact that he hit a nice-ass lateral cut on the mozz stick?
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Its so funny. I've lived in NY my entire adult life, and this was a great video. I'm going to make a chopped cheese tomorrow. But I showed a buddy of mine who lives across the country.... So many questions! What's a bodega? What is a chopped cheese? What's Adobo? What's Sazon?
Gotta say, now that I've lived in NY for 30 years, I can honestly say that I eat much, much better than all my old friends.
bro. Bro. The french fries and the mozzarella sticks at the end. BRO.
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Thanks a lot for your videos. Over the last weeks i cooked one of your recipes every week and my family loves it. Real streetfood with a lot of flavour.
The ocky way be costing 20+.
This channel is rather fantastic!
I've said it before I'll say it again. The chopped cheese is the bastard offspring of a burger and a cheesesteak
and it is sooooo good. especially after a night of drinking. perfect post alcohol food.
I've found chopped cheese just tastes exactly like a cheese burger, it's just a looser texture.
Cheese steak on the other hand is shave ribeye, provolone, mushrooms, onions, roasted red peppers, and it's just a bomb of flavor
Im glad the abobo, completa, and sazón inspired you to make a creation. Those 3 are the main things that make our beef stew different than normal (among other things) Check box they have different kinds. Con azafrán had a yellow base, con culantro and achiote have a red and cilantro base etc. now go make a carne guisado brother 💪🏽
This reminds me of some of the concoctions I saw in New Orleans when I was there for a travel nursing job. I tried a lot of different combinations of things that I never would have dreamed of before. One thing there, though, the messiesr, the better! 🤣 To answer your question, I would probably come up with my own version of the "Ockey Way!"
Blossom end!! Another awesome video! Thank you!!
Both look great! Never had one but I am thinking ground lamb, feta, onion, garlic, oregano, lemon.....help me!
Your version looks amazing !!
THX a lot
Dissolve the Xanthan Gum by stirring it into a little neutral oil first. Helps distribute without clumping, as it is oil soluble.
When building I'd switch the order of the lettuce & the tomatoes
I remember when I was growing up, American cheese was available in bricks from Kraft. I believe most deli counters still have American cheese, possibly just the white version, but it takes me back whenever I get it.
I've gotta admit, that first, original version - hold the tomato is more my taste.
I don’t use the badia complete seasoning anymore. I use Goya sazonador total. Less sodium and gives you more room for flavor and keep the sodium down. The secret is just achiote y culantro lol. That’s just color. Doesn’t add flavor. My gf is from Nicaragua and I use that all the time. It’s just for color but adds sodium. Goya will keep the sodium down. Especially when using adobo. Goya adobo is the best!!
New York has the Chopped Cheese
Pennsylvania has the Philly Cheesesteak
Louisiana has the Po Boy
good shit
I see you with that bandaged index finger, bro. Love knowing you're doing it for real. I always enjoy your videos.
I went into this thinking it was gonna be a complaint against "non traditional" chopped cheese but instead I got love for both
Looks bomb thank you for the video
Ocky is too busy for me.
Both sound good and I like that you can figure out what ingredients you could add I'm such a NEARly thrown together sort of list of ingredients. That could have wild and exciting effexts
OMG he's great I am starving for his last sandwich he made thanks for recipe. You are so talented and lovable. I'm 90 and going to ask my daughter to try and copy. That seasoning sauce looks yummy. God Bless
I can't wait to get back to NYC and get myself a chopped cheese! As always great content man
The whole point of the Ocky way is that Ock is the only one that can do it. So by definition this is not the ocky way. Plus people usually tell Ock what they want it on, some people choose sweet things like pop tarts and honey buns others will choose Jamaican patties, and its really whatever the customer can dream of. If I ever go to NYC its a Dream of mine to get a chopped cheese from the legendary General Ock
I try to tell people not to cut sandwiches in foil it causes little bits of foil to get in the food only do that with the paper wrap. Wrap in paper cut then add the foil if desired. I spotted atleast 1 foil piece in the first chopped cheese u made on the tomatoe
When I was in NYC I went to blue sky deli to try a chopped cheese. I can see why it’s a staple in NYC
2:25 his solution was jack phila
I can't wait to make my own version of this. Great Idea Steve!! You must wrap it up!! It's a must!
All you had to say was Sazon and you know ITS ON!
I don’t know the science behind it but iceberg lettuce levels way up when shredded.
The ocky way seems inspired by "fat" sandwiches popular in NJ, especially college towns.
I've wanted to try an authentic NYC bodega chopped cheese - but never quite sure where to go around midtown. Any suggestions? And I think I might take the Ahka way to Buffalo and mimic their Stinger Sub - chopped cheese w/ buffalo chicken fingers on top. Man. Now I'm hungry.
Nice Sandwich gonna start with The OG way b4 I try the Ahki way but they both look Awsome!
Any recipe that calls for mustard, switch out your plain old yellow for a stuff called Herlockers Dipping Mustard. It adds a whole new layer of flavor.
Oh, man, I'm with you on dill relish vs sweet. Dill, every time.
Speaking as someone that has had their fist, second, and third chopped cheese over the past week from 3 different food carts and delis, (I'm in NYC on a business trip - one from a food cart outside the Natural History museum, a deli near my hotel on 26th, and from another deli outside the WTC subway), I find that the closer it gets to a cheeseburger, the better it is for me: ie, chopped hamburger + american cheese + onion, toasted bun, a bit of ketchup and mayo on the roll, lettuce and tomato.
The ones that I had that got away from that (mainly throwing in different sauces, additional vegetables, different meats) made it taste....off, at least to my pallate.
However, I found it to be closer related to a "neat" Sloppy Joe, honestly - most of the ones I had didn't actually have lettuce or tomato....and I could really notice it was missing. I was all "y'know, this could really use some crispness and cold sweetness".
Absolutely fantastic 😂
id go classic but mozz sticks sounds like a banger addition.
I wouldn't have a problem with either but the OG is old school American and has been around since the patty melt (even though it was chopped they called it a patty) or cheddar melts. The OG looks like a Big Bacon Classic from Wendy's minus the Bacon so I would eat that often! The sauce you made was a fancy McDonald's secret sauce for the Big Mac, I like Sriracha instead of Frank's though. I make chopped Cheese Street tacos with that sauce instead of the smash burger version that you see on youtube. It's quick and easy.
The Ocky Way is more of a lunch/dessert combo more than anything. The OG chopped cheese will not be dethroned.
why 720p?
As a local 914 resident you are such a weschester dude and I respect it.
Probably OG, though if you cut out the fries and the mozz out I would go with yours. I think the sauce would be perfect and the peppers in the chop would work great. Keeps the sandwich easy to bite into.
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Sazone!😂
Classic chop, on a long roll. Perfection as it is.
On the Jersey side of NYC, sometimes you get a Portuguese roll instead of a kaiser roll.
Woah. Watching a video about a New York sandwich, and this dude pulls out the cheddar cheese made in my West Coast area! Tillamook is a Local Staple here in Oregon.
Without the press it's not the same, you don't toast in the inside of the bread you toast the outside. The inside is supposed to be soft and fluffy. Still probably good, but without that serious crunch when you bite down on the bread it don't feel like a chopped cheese.
You are incorrect Lora Deli on 5th street and Avenue D in the Lower East Side was the Original….
Now I know how to make a classic NY style chopped cheese! YES!
I love chopped cheese
That’s what I tried first 5 years when I came to the US.
This reminded me of my white castle order , 6 bacon cheeseburgers a bag of chicken rings and hot sauce to taste. Fit a ring into each burger and fill the holes with hit sauce. ✌️
We cannot say this is good for the heart, but dang does it look good for the soul
I gotta try both tbh. but then again I watched this while I'm hungry....
720P?
Very similar to a maid rite in midwest
I like your version a lot. I'm a sandwich guy, and this looks like one of mine. I'm getting hungry. 😁
Also garlic butter is a goat move.
Definitely want the Ocky Way. Looks amazing
Both look good AF and the OG is definitely fire but Steve's Occy way is most definitely for the "Big Back" or the 420 community no doubt!!!
Maybe you can unravel the mystery of the New York mozzarepa for us next. I saw it in little Italy when on vacation but was too full to try it. I have yet to find a recipe online that looks anything like the street vender.
Love this but… do the orange Goya sazón packet with adobo how the bodegas do it, you’ll love it my brother. You the man though.
Gotta go with the OG, but I would try yours without the mozz sticks and chips (they’ll get too soggy) but leave the steak fries.
Question from a Canadian - is "American Cheese" like Kraft Singles? Or regularly made cheese like a Mild Cheddar?
Gentlemen, we are witnessing the evolution of food made manifest.
I’m Puerto Rican!!! What in the world is super secret Sazon? I’ve eaten sazon and adobo all my life. He is just seasoning it like any Spanish house hold
I want a sweatshirt like that. It makes a statement like no other shirt can make a statement. I mean, if you’re in the house where everybody’s cooking everybody’s having fun
New Yorkers really chop up a cheese burgers patty and pretend they're culinary masters lmaooo
I have been putting off seasoning my new cast iron for months. Definitely gonna do it to make this. Looks insane.
Throwing moz sticks and fries into that starts to give New Brunswick Grease Trucks vibes
best steak and cheese ive ever had was in hudson, New Hampshire... little shack called Cahill's Super Subs
classic cus when there's too many condiments it's hard to eat...can't even open mouth wide enough to take a bite and the flavors get muddled.
Gotta put the onions on when u put the meat down!! Makes a difference
If you wanna killer spin on a chopped cheese come to twisted fiddler in upstate ny
OMG finally chopped cheese!!!! yesssss
it seems like new york people love their sandwhiches, i almost never see a sandwhich shop like this where i live besides subway
I tend to go for the OG, but I'd give the Ocky way a try
Grew up eating bodega steak sandwiches (which is how I know them) they are so freaking good
Chop Cheese on a hero with bacon, eggs and chipotle sauce.👌
Classic all the way for me.