I'm no expert when it comes to the differences on the variants (most the differences are probably label printing differences or pressing differences), but it's easy to see that the value of that collection is close to priceless. Also, each variants will most likely have interesting stories behind them. My copy of this is either the same or a minor variant of the last copy you showed, the remastered version, at least that's what my label looks like (not the traditional Harvest label like the others). Very cool, looking forward to the next video.
Thank you, I very much appreciate your contribution to the discussion and note your comments about the label. I will be doing more videos soon so stay tuned. All the best.
If they are UK editions, you also have another indicator on the inner sleeve. There are usually codes or patent numbers there that tend to vary, and they are probably not all the same.
Great to see those variants, appreciate you showing them. I was never a big fan of The side long title track, but the second side has some of my favourite Floyd songs, particularly Rick Wrights' Summer '68..elegiac and strange.
My Friend, Great video, the vinyl is excellent, start with “Atom Heart Mother “ variants are very interesting, this is a fantastic collection of Pink Floyd, it must’ve taken them time to collect the different variants, My Friend Takecare, Besafe, I’ll see you on the next selection of this fine collection, Steve
That collection is impressive. I think £5K is a pretty good cost for that amount of sound jewels. On the Pink Floyd Archives web site you find information on each of the known Pink Floyd variants of their vinyl releases. The first vinyl is a third pressing (which is the one I have in my collection). All the vinyls with the 1G/1G matrices correspond to first pressings. Looking forward to continuing to browse the collection for more hidden treasures.
You can pretty much find out all you want to know about these pressings on the Vernon Fitch Discographies page and also Discogs. Those '1G' pressings are all from the first issue. My earliest UK pressing is from the second issue. I also own the UK Quadraphonic and the Mobile Fidelity Anadisq. Most of the UK pressings I have from the '70s & '80s were mastered by Harry Moss (HTM) and I think they were all pulled from the same tapes because they don't sound vastly different and are mostly excellent. If any of your 1G copies are up for sale, let me know.
Looking forward to seeing the Piper variations. Hopefully you have a true 1st press mono in there without the 'pop group' shown on the flip back. I'm sure there'll be a few stereo versions in there as well. Their best lp for me as I prefer their psych period with Syd Barrett. Chemical Brothers sample a guitar riff off Let There Be More Light on Saucerful Of Secrets btw. I'm sure you'll recognise it when you hear it. Cheers Nigel
The first copy you show is a post 1973 issue. Reason: it has "EMI Records Ltd." on the rim text. The Gramophone Co. Ltd. changed to EMI Record Ltd. in 1973. So cannot be earlier than that.
Interesting. I believe the earlier Harvest labels had no boxed EMI logos and stated 'Gramophone Record Company' NOT 'EMI Records' on the rim. I have Kevin Ayers and the Whole World on that earlier label.
@@thevinylvault especially for a mediocre and fairly common lowish value album such as AHM, no way. Just one near mint uk first pressing will surely suffice, ie no EMI at 9 O'clock, gramophone rim text and 1G matrices. A dozen copies is ridiculous unless used as investment for good profit
Thanks for the follow up. I am doing my best to keep up but I am still not fully up to grips with it all. I don't fully understand your comments relating to the "no EMI at 9 O'clock, gramophone rim text and 1G matrices" It's not you I am just trying to get my head around if the ones I have are first presses or not.
What a nice collection. I have been in this game for 40 years and have never met a lady collector who has been interested in purchasing so many different pressings (of the same LP) because of the stamping codes and matrix numbers. Collections like this normally turn up when someone has sadly passed away. I really do think you know far more than you make out. I wonder if your Hip Hop past is totally true or this was a collection you have made up.
I did not count the number of copies of 'Atom Heart Mother' but it must have been a dozen. I still like the title track. But I know that the story of writing and arranging it in 1970 was a torture to Roger Waters, but a peak but troubling experience for Richard Wright. Perhaps the version that draws the listener in best in 2024 is a 2008 live rendition led by David Gilmour and supported by co-writer Ron Geesin. enjoy... ruclips.net/video/EzpSWU8rpx4/видео.html
Realistically would someone who by their own constant admissions knows very little about records just pull out £5000 for a collection. A lot of money to spend if you’re not sure what’s what. It’s a nice collection no doubting that but it all doesn’t add up to me if I’m honest.
@@thevinylvaultI think I was the first message on here yesterday, it's happened before tho, I think I may have made a post somewhere and RUclips are deleting my comments if key words appear? God knows but it's a pain in the neck 🙄
Merry Christmas
Same to you!
Many thanks to The Vinyl Vault for a peek into this killer collection ✌️🤘
Thank you sir, Salute!
I'm no expert when it comes to the differences on the variants (most the differences are probably label printing differences or pressing differences), but it's easy to see that the value of that collection is close to priceless. Also, each variants will most likely have interesting stories behind them. My copy of this is either the same or a minor variant of the last copy you showed, the remastered version, at least that's what my label looks like (not the traditional Harvest label like the others). Very cool, looking forward to the next video.
Thank you, I very much appreciate your contribution to the discussion and note your comments about the label. I will be doing more videos soon so stay tuned. All the best.
If they are UK editions, you also have another indicator on the inner sleeve. There are usually codes or patent numbers there that tend to vary, and they are probably not all the same.
@soymartin07 Thank you, I need to investigate that.
Great to see those variants, appreciate you showing them.
I was never a big fan of The side long title track, but the second side has some of my favourite Floyd songs, particularly Rick Wrights' Summer '68..elegiac and strange.
Thanks, I need to listen the the rest of the LP.
My Friend, Great video, the vinyl is excellent, start with “Atom Heart Mother “ variants are very interesting, this is a fantastic collection of Pink Floyd, it must’ve taken them time to collect the different variants, My Friend Takecare, Besafe, I’ll see you on the next selection of this fine collection, Steve
Thanks Steve, I appreciate your comments and yes, I will see you on the next selection. All the best.
That collection is impressive. I think £5K is a pretty good cost for that amount of sound jewels. On the Pink Floyd Archives web site you find information on each of the known Pink Floyd variants of their vinyl releases. The first vinyl is a third pressing (which is the one I have in my collection). All the vinyls with the 1G/1G matrices correspond to first pressings. Looking forward to continuing to browse the collection for more hidden treasures.
Thanks, I appreciate your nice comments and for sharing the info about the pressings.
You can pretty much find out all you want to know about these pressings on the Vernon Fitch Discographies page and also Discogs. Those '1G' pressings are all from the first issue. My earliest UK pressing is from the second issue. I also own the UK Quadraphonic and the Mobile Fidelity Anadisq. Most of the UK pressings I have from the '70s & '80s were mastered by Harry Moss (HTM) and I think they were all pulled from the same tapes because they don't sound vastly different and are mostly excellent. If any of your 1G copies are up for sale, let me know.
Thank you very much for writing a comprehensive reply, it is really appreciated. I will check those sites. Many thanks!
Looking forward to seeing the Piper variations. Hopefully you have a true 1st press mono in there without the 'pop group' shown on the flip back. I'm sure there'll be a few stereo versions in there as well. Their best lp for me as I prefer their psych period with Syd Barrett. Chemical Brothers sample a guitar riff off Let There Be More Light on Saucerful Of Secrets btw. I'm sure you'll recognise it when you hear it. Cheers Nigel
Me too. Fingers crossed I have some good ones, wont be long and I will listen out for the guitar sample you mentioned.
I would look for Quadrophonic recordings,Half Speed Masters, Original Master Recordings and of course the 1st Press UK vinyl.
Thanks for your comments.
The first copy you show is a post 1973 issue. Reason: it has "EMI Records Ltd." on the rim text. The Gramophone Co. Ltd. changed to EMI Record Ltd. in 1973. So cannot be earlier than that.
Cool, thanks for clarifying. Much appreciated!
Interesting. I believe the earlier Harvest labels had no boxed EMI logos and stated 'Gramophone Record Company' NOT 'EMI Records' on the rim. I have Kevin Ayers and the Whole World on that earlier label.
Thanks, I will take a look at the labels. Many thanks.
What sort of Trainspotter would have bought so many copies of AHM etc?
It think it's fairly normal in the vinyl community to collect multiple varients, issues and versions.
@@thevinylvault especially for a mediocre and fairly common lowish value album such as AHM, no way. Just one near mint uk first pressing will surely suffice, ie no EMI at 9 O'clock, gramophone rim text and 1G matrices. A dozen copies is ridiculous unless used as investment for good profit
Thanks for the follow up. I am doing my best to keep up but I am still not fully up to grips with it all. I don't fully understand your comments relating to the "no EMI at 9 O'clock, gramophone rim text and 1G matrices" It's not you I am just trying to get my head around if the ones I have are first presses or not.
What a nice collection. I have been in this game for 40 years and have never met a lady collector who has been interested in purchasing so many different pressings (of the same LP) because of the stamping codes and matrix numbers. Collections like this normally turn up when someone has sadly passed away. I really do think you know far more than you make out. I wonder if your Hip Hop past is totally true or this was a collection you have made up.
It's a nice collection, I know a little but not loads and Hip Hop is still in my blood. Peace!
The various matrix numbers might represent the country they were pressed in .
Really, I had no idea. Thanks!
The label denotes which country the record is from not the run out stamps/etchings
Thanks, that adds to the debate.
Two questions - are you going to sell some and would you ship across the pond!
Sorry. Unfortunately I will be keeping them but thank you for the interest.
@@thevinylvault that’s actually amazing that you’re keeping the collection together.
It would be a shame to split it up.
I did not count the number of copies of 'Atom Heart Mother' but it must have been a dozen. I still like the title track. But I know that the story of writing and arranging it in 1970 was a torture to Roger Waters, but a peak but troubling experience for Richard Wright. Perhaps the version that draws the listener in best in 2024 is a 2008 live rendition led by David Gilmour and supported by co-writer Ron Geesin. enjoy... ruclips.net/video/EzpSWU8rpx4/видео.html
Thanks for sharing that information, I jumped over and had a listen but I need to look again when I have more time. All the best.
No EMI Logo increases the value.
I best check again. Thank you.
Realistically would someone who by their own constant admissions knows very little about records just pull out £5000 for a collection. A lot of money to spend if you’re not sure what’s what. It’s a nice collection no doubting that but it all doesn’t add up to me if I’m honest.
I know enough not to miss out and leave it behind.
Fair play mate. Keep finding the good stuff 👍
Totally agree. It's a large wedge to pay for something you know little about. Good luck to you.
@JamesSmith-ru7mm Thank you, It looked so good especially with the sold blue triangle I went for it.
@TVHistory-hg2ex It was a large wedge but the blue triangle had me hooked especially as I had seen one go for around 3K.
My message has vanished lol i dunno who i pished off on RUclips lol...
Which one?
@thevinylvault I posted on this one yesterday afternoon
I am still not sure how they disappear. Maybe if it was in response to someone else, could they have deleted the thread?
@@thevinylvaultI think I was the first message on here yesterday, it's happened before tho, I think I may have made a post somewhere and RUclips are deleting my comments if key words appear? God knows but it's a pain in the neck 🙄
Also anytime I say something about sending me a message it vanishes lol