everythign you do at work is already under purview of your employer - and they might even have tracking stuff installed already, or a screen watcher. Its a work computer, you dont have privacy on it and you never did.
Nothing is stopped companies from doing this today (and they absolutely log everything you do). What's new here is that AI makes that information easily searchable.
Every micromanager that saw this just high-fived their imaginary friend and started writing business cases to their IT department for upgrading every user to take advantage of recall.
@@Hausedj2 You're right! The best news out of this report about Microsoft's latest nightmare fuel is the fact we have Samsung Dex...and Linux. I guess Microsoft WANTS to die... This news is simply horrendous.
@@fspeshalxo69 because it's an easy way to access the Internet and most things that are blocked at work. All you have to do is connect it to a docking station and you have your phone turned into an android pc with keyboard and mouse. That's not being tracked by anything, and you can use your own 4G/5G connection to browse everything that's blocked by the IT.
Sadly every features that ads any convince is in some form. Anything that reads emails to recommend calendar additions or recommends replies or recommend next steps Anything that indexes your system so you can search it better. Always being connected with all your files and the whole internet at your fingertips. It's hard to add features that in some form cant potentially be an issue. When it was the 80's and 90's we saw TV shows and demos that showed off cool future interfaces and things we couldn't wait for the future, but now that those are in some form possible, and we understand technology better we realize what goes into them and how they may not be the great cool thing we thought they were and are possible just a nightmare waiting to happen.
@@puzzardosalami3443 nah, they dont care when Apple or Google does it - they statistically are likely to have posted it from a fucking Android device, of all places. Its corporate fanboyism, not an actual care about privacy.
@@xBINARYGODxyeah totally. RUclips historial and algorythm actually is spying you, but they're fine. Microsoft is the devil because we're still in the 90's.
Microsoft Windows is a virus with documentation... But he talks about new version of Windows but talks about hardware - Surface is NOT Windows - it RUNS Windows. They may have put hardware into it to allow for new features in Windows to run efficiently.
Jesus, imagine getting this laptop from your IT department. Locked settings. I bet it will be able to report to your manager about what you did during your working hours. Who you talked to. What you wrote in your personal email to your friend during lunch. And the best part is that most people won’t even know that their new shiny work laptops, with those nice bright displays, can do all those things.. I’m sure that no company ever will abuse this technology..
If your company issues you the hardware, then you have no expectation of privacy. Don't use your work device to access/use personal services. Also, companies already do this using other 3rd party applications, because legally they are well within their rights to do so.
@@interceptor001 From what I could find it isn't illegal there, but informing and gaining consent and a legitimate reason for doing so are almost always required with what seems like a few exceptions for some countries that are part of the EU. To be honest the legality of it here is kind of a gray area but would most likely require suing your employer to make it stop. The truth is it is always a best practice to not access your personal services on a work provided device.
I get the privacy concern but this ain't it bro, why would you ever do something personal on a work device? If your biggest privacy concern is your employer and not Microsoft, that's entirely your issue lol
Easy solution is to not use your work laptop for personal use, especially for high income jobs. For those with average jobs, use your cellphone if a keyboard isn't needed.
@@MadafakinRio I still don't want it, it's not useful to me and wastes resources I rather spend on other things. Plus it's not like it's guaranteed to be unhackable, so yeah, it's absolutely warranted to be concerned (though maybe not to declare that the sky is falling). Time will tell I guess.
@@Whocaresssssssss yes, but you can still limit the risks and what they can access by not recording everything. It's about mitigating risks. It's the same reason sandboxing is used and we are told not to put passwords in text documents. Recall imho doesn't really fo something anyone needs, but it's a massive security risk, so in my assessment it's not something I would want. Either way, if you think it's worthwhile that's fair enough. But that doesn't mean there is no reason for concern, there absolutely is.
I'm sorry but I simply do not believe microsoft is just going to turn a blind eye to an avenue of constant surveillance. That is WAY too lucrative for them to not abuse.
They are already tracking everything for decades. Even Chrome itself searches trough all your files for "safety" reasons for a long time now. At least the spy is now helping you with your daily tasks!
I'm pretty sure that technically Recall will wind up being local, but they could still extract value from your data either through aggregating use pattern data through telemetry, or by having Recall store data in your OneDrive folder (in that case Recall would technically be operating completely locally, but Microsoft would still get the data when OneDrive backs it up)
Tech savvy and disciplined will just turn it off. However, most people are tech basic and undisciplined. Too easy for any tech savvy people to find dirt based on their laptop.
Guess we'll see how good that encryption works over time. My biggest concerns are how long until Microsoft changes something and goes "now you'll also get the benefit of the cloud" and then millions of peoples stuff was auto opted in after an update. I don't trust it. Not to mention your request already are going to the cloud. So they can't see your screenshots but the can see what you're trying to do with them. Its a no from me through and through. The processors are cool though.
@@nasabiraphillbert8220 I read that it doesn't hide sensitive information such as financial information or passwords. Even if it is encrypted, it's still a very possible method of attack for hackers. Imagine if someone managed to break the encryption of a high ranking executive's laptop. They would get access to so much information about the person and company.
@@larko2933 Its done locally yes . but your now part of an interconnected network of big brother programs. Did you know your system is in constant communications with Servers that you have know Idea what there doing with your information.
@albertkovtoun662 Done locally, nothing saying it won't be uploaded after you reconnect to the web. It is not open-source like Linux Mint, there's is not many ways to tell.
@@arcadeportal32 Mainline Linux Mint is good, but as a long time Linux user, I've moved away from Debian based distros for ones based on Arch like Manjaro Gnome which is my main, independent ones like Solus w/Budgie DE, or Debian ones Linux Mint DE. Ubuntu to me has become the Microsoft of the Linux world trying to force things like insecure SNAP packages, and in the past tried to kill 32bit libs still needed for many programs to work like games, and has even shoved Amazon search right onto the desktop till it was called out. Move away my friend move away.
mint is cool tho, i run it for my mini home server made using my old ass pc that was collecting dust. fedora is cool too but gnome is annoying out of the box every time i have to run like at least 3 or 5 commands to make it better@@RomvnlyPlays
I have zero trust in recall staying local. Companies are caught doing these scandalous things all the time, and I feel a feature like this is not worth the risk. Ill continue running windows LTSC and cut out every feature by force if I need to. At this rate, Ill end up switching to linux once its anticheat support is fully there.
Dual booting is the way. I only turn windows on to play a game and then I'm out. Kubuntu mint and fedora all feel close enough to windows. Its not hard you just have to do it.
yes, the recall feature is definitely one to turn off as soon as you get the device, it will use resources and ssd space for something that would almost never be useful to me, besides all the privacy concerns
It is supposed to run on the NPU, so it won't disturb CPU performance... allegedly. However, the files Recall stores on you will affect your SSD over the long term.
18:18 shame on Austin for not mentioning that leagally that action cannot void your warranty. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act disproves as the manufacturer has to prove that damage was done by the consumer, anything else like upgrading the laptop does not void your warranty.
Terrible, so I have to ask a server for permission to use on device processing, not to draw something "nefarious"? Who defines nefarious? This is truly dystopia.
Um, no. You have to ask a server for permission to use on device processing for MS paint, which is a MS product. This is to reduce MS's liability if anything nefarious is trying to be created. Also, we all know what he means by nefarious and that would be things like deep fakes.
@@wairgald They don't care about deepfakes in general I imagine(not until law starts stepping up and making it illegal the world over to produce deepfakes of celebrities and 'normal' people). They DO care about underaged deepfakes though, and that's probably what they're gonna be searching for. People start using it to do C*P* deepfakes, they are gonna be VERY screwed-a PR nightmare and possible litigation.
So if a device with the recall feature gets stolen and is accessed, the thieves now have access to almost everything you've done on that device which can include sensitive data and personal information, who at microsoft thought this was a good idea?
It is illegal - Federal Law - to void the warranty for upgrading the unit. It is on the manufacturer to prove that you broke it. They are counting on you not trying so they don't have to repair a faulty unit. Asus had this issue very recently.
You can turn off Recall today... I give them a year before they make it mandatory after how much data they farm from it. Sure the images remain local, but doesnt mean what is detected on them isn't sent over.
AI is literally Skynet’s Trojan Horse. Remember “Genesis” in the more recent Terminator movie reboot? Genesis was launched and marketed EXACTLY like this. To the point that it’s ominous.
1. Can it run Steam 2. Can I play games with Anti-cheat like COD or Destiny 2 3. Do the fans run doing mundane tasks like checking email or a web call? 4. Can I turn off Recall, how can I make sure it's off and not running in the background? How easy is it for a remote actor to turn it back on?
for #2, anticheat requires pretty low-level access to the system, wc means no emulation and you'll have to wait for the developers to port the game to ARM
This is simply to max life expectancy to pretend they are competing with Apple and AMD and having new and trendy ARM cores, Qualcomm will disappoint them just like Intel did.
...I'm no data privacy expert, and I really don't care that much about it... But if Microsoft doesn't get sued for Recall, then I'm just completely gonna lose hope about privacy in general.
I’m fine with Windows, I rarely experience problems at all, when “Copilot” comes, I just turn it off and that’s it, if not in the system, then through the code.
if for corporate, who cares? your work computer is not your computer and you already dont have any privacy on it. Its the person use stuff you should care about, and you should care about it all teh time, not just when you hear "MS".
@@xBINARYGODx I would think every worker would care. Literally gives every manager the ability to stand over that all of their employees shoulders in an efficient way so that they can actually do it to all of their subordinates.
@@tboatrig um, many corporate entities already use keyloggers and various types of trackers to keep tabs on what their employees are doing on company devices. This would just remove the necessity to use 3rd party applications to do so.
You lost me at "Windows will still cut down performance when on battery". That's a big, underrated advantage the Mac has had for years now. Aside from that, and aside from the fact that Windows/Qualcomm are 4 years late (compared to Apple), the new laptop looks awesome at $999.
Really the blame should be with Intel and AMD. After 4 years since the release of the M1 neither company have even tried to emulate Apple silicons performance efficiency. At least Qualcomme are making a genuine effort but it will take a year or two for them to emulated what Apple achieved.
Features sound great, but until those features are 100% able to run on system not connected to the Internet, forget it. Not that I am planning on doing anything "nafarious" but I don't want some nanny state AI telling me what is and what is not a problem.
My take is that this feature was specifically created for companies who hired people for Remote work, so they can basically access that data via management apps…
You are right. I was offered a remote job the other day. They were going to give me a corporate computer and I found out they were going to us AI to video me all day. I told them no way and I would rather be unemployed.
@@diamondlion47 gaming is a fair point but between the ads they want to put in windows 12 and all the recall feature that will "definitely be on device only" spying on you for database building and marketing purposes seems like it will be what windows 12 is best at.
Spyware? Made by Microsoft, so you know it's buggy and insecure right off the bat? Shipped on every new PC? On by default? I love this for Microsoft, they're actively killing what used to be their cash cow.
Snapdragon X and Prism is exciting. I won’t be sold until the reviews, but I want to believe that Qualcomm can keep up and offer good iGPU for a 780M-like equivalent As for Recall, not only do you have to make sure to delete your browsing history you now need to make sure your windows drive get wiped too in case you get mistaken for a Boeing whistleblower Upgrading the SSD on the laptop voids the warranty? Time to get Louis Rossmann here
Recall is a privacy nightmare. I'm going to post this on social media that has every bit of my life on it. Using my phone that tracks my location down to the block. I want my privacy!!! Siri, Alexa, you hear that.
If microsoft doesn't allow high end gpus to be in place of an npu, people are gonna be mad. Nvidia and amd have spent the last few gens adding AI cores and systems to their hardware. To not be able to use that and to require a dedicated npu within the cpu will be a huge waste
@@Chemzborgor their for anything that wants to use them. I've done plenty of LLM, image gen and other AI workloads with my gpu. Plus currently FSR doesn't use any form of AI, DLSS does
I love the idea of everything being processed on device, but after the whole Eufy camera debacle, we can't really trust that companies are actually keeping up their end of the bargain.
LOVE how suddenly everyone is so worried about their privacy and they voice it through a social media owned by one of the biggest tech firms in the world who DEFINITELY values their privacy.
Why is everyone worried about this? We all know companies respect their employees' privacy and ability to independently get their work done without the need for additional surveillance through software. Right?
Ok recall, while a bit “creepy” would actually be a game changer for me. I’m super disorganized, and think “oh I’ll remember the name of that website or video when I am ready to buy/do it in a week” and totally forget it, then to avoid that I will make tons of bookmarks or shortcuts or notes etc that get lost and make no sense. I really like the idea personally.
@Anonicus that's because the idealism comes to play. People who ignore this tech will left behind. Corporate is chasing efficiency. AI really improves productivity. Like it or not. AI will be a mainstream. I don't even like it. But can't deny. Your linux will be on demand to be more powerful. Or your boss who doesn't care except money will start comparing worker with non-AI and worker with AI. unless government really do something
@@rizkipuruzebest part is that if you don’t want it you can make an operating system without it if you have Linux. Windows and Mac don’t allow people to modify their app list let alone the operating system. Your comment made clear your ignorance about the nature of Linux which is why I took the time to make clear the point that Linux is in itself a clear winner in terms of privacy.
Because we don't own Windows PCs anymore, Microsoft merely permits people to use them and they decide what we can and cannot do. The best solution is to ditch Windows and use any alternative OS.
Because there's TOS for every app and feature? What kind of brain-dead question is this. Ofcourse MS won't appreciate the news headlines "Kid kills 3 in home-made bomb blast made using step-by-step guide from Microsoft copilot"
They aren't? They are limiting what you can use their product, MS Paint, to draw. I'm sure there will/are plenty of 3rd party options that won't/don't have these limitations. If that isn't good enough for you then you can try using a different OS. You own the hardware, but Windows has always been a licensed product and was never something to technically owned.
Theres a secret 32gb & 64gb ram option direct from Microsoft that other dealers wont carry, the downside is that it comes in black only. Other thing to note is that some of these Snapdragon devices have the cringe feature known as "no headphone jack". The surface Pro is one of those the new yoga is going to be as well. Dell tried it and they flopped in sales for the XPS13 idk why companies continue to do this cringe trend.
How well encrypted, and how secured is the decryption mechanism for recall? If its all on device, what's stopping malicious actor to pretend to open it as a user to then have it decrypted and a bunch of data stolen?
Whats stopping a malicious actor from stealing your data now, without recall? It's not like you always log off every website, encrypt your local data with third party encryption software etc. do you? What i'm saying is, if someone got access t your machine and login information, it's game over anyways lol.
Why not just give us a simple windows that is not filled with Bloatware, Spyware, eating half of your ram, useless AI, a normal right click, & letting users to have fun with it? Ya know, like Windows 98, Windows XP, & Windows 7.
I am really enjoying the tech arms races that have been springing back to life. Screens are getting brighter and with better displays, chips are getting more performant but with greater efficiency, battery life is getting big leaps. Starting to feel like what I wanted out of the laptop space in like 2015-2019 is finally catching up.
No wonder windows 11 is losing marketshare to windows 10. This whack ass os is getting more restrictive and bloated wiith each update. Id rather jump ship to linux than upgrade to 11
My takeaway- Macs are still better than Windows for laptops. Praying for a viable new OS that isn't a janky distro that only appeals to a specific user-set.
Just would like to add: Prism is not an “emulator” for x86 to ARM, but a translation layer that allows for apps to still run natively on that processor while converting x86 instruction calls to their ARM equivalents. This is a lot more efficient than an emulator would be, but it would still be optimal to have a native ARM app as compared to using a translation layer.
I don't think the majority want copilot or AI built inside windows. I want windows 11 to operate like windows 7, the Ai and copilot should be optional especially when they are always trying to force you to use an edge browser.
Windows: Spyware Edition. No thanks. As someone who works in cyber security, this takes data exfiltration possibilities to new levels. Everyone that cares about privacy and security should vehemently reject this.
as someone who used to do IT, i saw this coming ten years ago. it was super clear after windows 8, that Microsoft was trying to make windows more 'simpler' in operation. heck windows server 2008 was basically easy mode compared to Linux.
I'm getting really tired of all this AI stuff tbh. I'm not really feeling the spirit of this AI boom. I don't care about future promises or what it "could" help me with. Especially for stuff like art, I'd rather commission stuff made by real people with real feeling behind it and is exactly what I want.
Oh look, another thing that Microsoft jumped into as an afterthought, spent way too much time and money on, and will ultimately drop support for because they didn't understand their customer base.
No normal human is going to use the "Copilot + PC" moniker. Even if it is not uploading or processing the screenshots on Microsoft's servers, does it still send any metadata related to it? If so, then it is still the same level of yikes as uploading your desktop. These devices are no longer yours. Imagine a piece of paper and pen refusing to write or draw because your creativity might disagree with Microsoft's interests.
Sure, recall definetely wont be abused by companys mistrusting their employees
Tracking the sheets out of their employee...
As if there was not existing software that could do this today
everythign you do at work is already under purview of your employer - and they might even have tracking stuff installed already, or a screen watcher. Its a work computer, you dont have privacy on it and you never did.
Well, Austin is the boss here, so.....
Nothing is stopped companies from doing this today (and they absolutely log everything you do). What's new here is that AI makes that information easily searchable.
Every micromanager that saw this just high-fived their imaginary friend and started writing business cases to their IT department for upgrading every user to take advantage of recall.
Samsung Dex will grow in popularity.
@@Hausedj2 You're right! The best news out of this report about Microsoft's latest nightmare fuel is the fact we have Samsung Dex...and Linux. I guess Microsoft WANTS to die... This news is simply horrendous.
@@Hausedj2 why is that
@@fspeshalxo69 because it's an easy way to access the Internet and most things that are blocked at work. All you have to do is connect it to a docking station and you have your phone turned into an android pc with keyboard and mouse. That's not being tracked by anything, and you can use your own 4G/5G connection to browse everything that's blocked by the IT.
@@Hausedj2But samsung tablet can't run all windows/laptop apps
That recall feature sounds like a data privacy nightmare
Truly.
Well we know what to turn off first
if it can be truely turned off
Sadly every features that ads any convince is in some form.
Anything that reads emails to recommend calendar additions or recommends replies or recommend next steps
Anything that indexes your system so you can search it better.
Always being connected with all your files and the whole internet at your fingertips.
It's hard to add features that in some form cant potentially be an issue. When it was the 80's and 90's we saw TV shows and demos that showed off cool future interfaces and things we couldn't wait for the future, but now that those are in some form possible, and we understand technology better we realize what goes into them and how they may not be the great cool thing we thought they were and are possible just a nightmare waiting to happen.
Your data wont ever be used against you…. Promise….
@@RickDSanchez hehe
"Microsoft can't see it, it's all encrypted". Yeah, encrypted by microsoft. It's like entrusting a thief with your money.
WhatsApp is encrypted by Facebook. iMessage by Apple. It may be a bit late for the sassy remarks on privacy.
@@puzzardosalami3443 nah, they dont care when Apple or Google does it - they statistically are likely to have posted it from a fucking Android device, of all places. Its corporate fanboyism, not an actual care about privacy.
@@xBINARYGODx couldn't have said it better
@@puzzardosalami3443 And I don't believe those either.
@@xBINARYGODxyeah totally.
RUclips historial and algorythm actually is spying you, but they're fine.
Microsoft is the devil because we're still in the 90's.
*Before Windows 11:*
Adware = Virus
*Windows 11:*
Adware = Feature
stop downloading dodgy porn and you won't get adware
This is why we should hate modernization
i love ads.
Microsoft Windows is a virus with documentation...
But he talks about new version of Windows but talks about hardware - Surface is NOT Windows - it RUNS Windows. They may have put hardware into it to allow for new features in Windows to run efficiently.
I'm waiting for the first AI virus.
Jesus, imagine getting this laptop from your IT department. Locked settings. I bet it will be able to report to your manager about what you did during your working hours. Who you talked to. What you wrote in your personal email to your friend during lunch. And the best part is that most people won’t even know that their new shiny work laptops, with those nice bright displays, can do all those things.. I’m sure that no company ever will abuse this technology..
If your company issues you the hardware, then you have no expectation of privacy. Don't use your work device to access/use personal services. Also, companies already do this using other 3rd party applications, because legally they are well within their rights to do so.
@@wairgald Depands where you are. Here in Europe it is not legal.
@@interceptor001 From what I could find it isn't illegal there, but informing and gaining consent and a legitimate reason for doing so are almost always required with what seems like a few exceptions for some countries that are part of the EU. To be honest the legality of it here is kind of a gray area but would most likely require suing your employer to make it stop. The truth is it is always a best practice to not access your personal services on a work provided device.
I get the privacy concern but this ain't it bro, why would you ever do something personal on a work device? If your biggest privacy concern is your employer and not Microsoft, that's entirely your issue lol
Easy solution is to not use your work laptop for personal use, especially for high income jobs. For those with average jobs, use your cellphone if a keyboard isn't needed.
'Windows constantly keeps taking screenshots of my screen'
How are people even excited about this? 😂
It's like the worst nightmare
@@MadafakinRio I still don't want it, it's not useful to me and wastes resources I rather spend on other things. Plus it's not like it's guaranteed to be unhackable, so yeah, it's absolutely warranted to be concerned (though maybe not to declare that the sky is falling). Time will tell I guess.
@@the-answer-is-42 If they can get access to this then they already have complete access to everything on your pc so what point are you trying to make
@@Whocaresssssssss yes, but you can still limit the risks and what they can access by not recording everything. It's about mitigating risks. It's the same reason sandboxing is used and we are told not to put passwords in text documents. Recall imho doesn't really fo something anyone needs, but it's a massive security risk, so in my assessment it's not something I would want.
Either way, if you think it's worthwhile that's fair enough. But that doesn't mean there is no reason for concern, there absolutely is.
It's hard for me to believe that people are optimistic about this... It's kinda scary...
@@MadafakinRio dude by this time you should know that privacy is a myth.
I'm sorry but I simply do not believe microsoft is just going to turn a blind eye to an avenue of constant surveillance. That is WAY too lucrative for them to not abuse.
lol every website tracks your activities
every single time with the ownership thought crime class
They are already tracking everything for decades. Even Chrome itself searches trough all your files for "safety" reasons for a long time now.
At least the spy is now helping you with your daily tasks!
@@mavisiu1387Most websites don't get to track all of your activities on every other website, and also your entire computer though
I'm pretty sure that technically Recall will wind up being local, but they could still extract value from your data either through aggregating use pattern data through telemetry, or by having Recall store data in your OneDrive folder (in that case Recall would technically be operating completely locally, but Microsoft would still get the data when OneDrive backs it up)
Recall will be loved by LEO Forensics ... its basically **BROWSING HISTORY FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO ON THE COMPUTER** 🤣🤣🤣
Exactly. I used to work forensics and it was fairly easy already. This is going to give them that extra time for a burrito party and a smoke break 😂😂😂
Tech savvy and disciplined will just turn it off. However, most people are tech basic and undisciplined. Too easy for any tech savvy people to find dirt based on their laptop.
Yeah......the AI Recall sounds absolutely terrible for cyber security.
if it stays on device it shouldn't be a big issue but if goes to the cloud then damn
This is something some startups already sell to companies. Micromanaging heaven.
@@nasabiraphillbert8220 even if its local it can be hacked or used for forensics
Guess we'll see how good that encryption works over time. My biggest concerns are how long until Microsoft changes something and goes "now you'll also get the benefit of the cloud" and then millions of peoples stuff was auto opted in after an update. I don't trust it. Not to mention your request already are going to the cloud. So they can't see your screenshots but the can see what you're trying to do with them. Its a no from me through and through. The processors are cool though.
@@nasabiraphillbert8220 I read that it doesn't hide sensitive information such as financial information or passwords. Even if it is encrypted, it's still a very possible method of attack for hackers. Imagine if someone managed to break the encryption of a high ranking executive's laptop. They would get access to so much information about the person and company.
"constantly taking screenshots that it then submits to the servers for "analysis" ... sounds like a perfect way to leak secrets."
Government spy agencies love this one neat trick.
This is a surefire way to make sure no corporation buys your devices for their employees
did you even watch the video? its done locally
None of the Recall data ever leaves your device AFAIK
@@larko2933 Its done locally yes . but your now part of an interconnected network of big brother programs. Did you know your system is in constant communications with Servers that you have know Idea what there doing with your information.
Sounds like a security nightmare for anyone who has it on
its done locally ?
@@SkylineGamingStudios Are you going to trust a company like Microsoft on that?
@albertkovtoun662 Done locally, nothing saying it won't be uploaded after you reconnect to the web. It is not open-source like Linux Mint, there's is not many ways to tell.
@@arcadeportal32 Mainline Linux Mint is good, but as a long time Linux user, I've moved away from Debian based distros for ones based on Arch like Manjaro Gnome which is my main, independent ones like Solus w/Budgie DE, or Debian ones Linux Mint DE. Ubuntu to me has become the Microsoft of the Linux world trying to force things like insecure SNAP packages, and in the past tried to kill 32bit libs still needed for many programs to work like games, and has even shoved Amazon search right onto the desktop till it was called out. Move away my friend move away.
@@arcadeportal32block the Internet access to see if it works
How often have weve been told that you can "turn it off"
And then they turn themselves back on the second you do anything
@@YoungMrBlue nice fud
Just like Meta AI, right?
What reason do companies have to lie? If they say you can turn it off then you can turn it off.
I can’t believe Linux advocates were right even decades ago. Closed source is there to pry on users.
..are you ready to try Linux Mint? the cult is still accepting new initiates lmao
@@NotTheGaslighterLinux mint? How about you stop recommending soy boy distros and go with something else like Fedora
mint is cool tho, i run it for my mini home server made using my old ass pc that was collecting dust. fedora is cool too but gnome is annoying out of the box every time i have to run like at least 3 or 5 commands to make it better@@RomvnlyPlays
Clash of the Cults.
@@RomvnlyPlays LMFAO did you seriously just put Fedora on sort of pedestal ?
I have zero trust in recall staying local. Companies are caught doing these scandalous things all the time, and I feel a feature like this is not worth the risk. Ill continue running windows LTSC and cut out every feature by force if I need to. At this rate, Ill end up switching to linux once its anticheat support is fully there.
Dual booting is the way. I only turn windows on to play a game and then I'm out. Kubuntu mint and fedora all feel close enough to windows. Its not hard you just have to do it.
Recall sounds creepy as shit, I'm going to be immediately disabling that on any Windows PC I own.
All I hear is more ways Microsoft collects my data and slows down my PC performance even more.
yes, the recall feature is definitely one to turn off as soon as you get the device, it will use resources and ssd space for something that would almost never be useful to me, besides all the privacy concerns
It is supposed to run on the NPU, so it won't disturb CPU performance... allegedly. However, the files Recall stores on you will affect your SSD over the long term.
Coming to a future near you:
You: "Recall, give me that series I was watching on Netflix yesterday."
Recall: "I can't do that, Dave. It's DRM."
18:18 shame on Austin for not mentioning that leagally that action cannot void your warranty. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act disproves as the manufacturer has to prove that damage was done by the consumer, anything else like upgrading the laptop does not void your warranty.
This entire video looks like an advertisement to me, not like an actual review, so...
Remember! Austin is CANADIAN. He may not know that this is a consumer protection in the United States
Terrible, so I have to ask a server for permission to use on device processing, not to draw something "nefarious"? Who defines nefarious? This is truly dystopia.
Um, no. You have to ask a server for permission to use on device processing for MS paint, which is a MS product. This is to reduce MS's liability if anything nefarious is trying to be created. Also, we all know what he means by nefarious and that would be things like deep fakes.
legit said those processing are gonna happen on device.
Apple scans all your photos on iCloud for nefarious content BTW. They just hide it really well and tell you it's for your own good.
@@wairgald They don't care about deepfakes in general I imagine(not until law starts stepping up and making it illegal the world over to produce deepfakes of celebrities and 'normal' people). They DO care about underaged deepfakes though, and that's probably what they're gonna be searching for. People start using it to do C*P* deepfakes, they are gonna be VERY screwed-a PR nightmare and possible litigation.
yeah totally Anti sex art there! this is terrible
I love ARM but all that AI bores me to death.
If someone does a lot of PPP and R&D, those features are seriously gifts. Especially when I will start my PhD in Law (300 pages minimum…). 😅
I wonder if the AI push would go the way of 3D entertainment?
I just want these chips to live up to the hype and perform well
@@Jaypro128 I Hope it does
AI has improved my productivity as a software engineer a lot as I can do much better documenting as well as some basic coding.
ROFL at 'just adjusting settings' for the creepy spyware.
Because MS _NEVER_ rolls back what people "request" MS stop doing.
im still waiting for a taskbar comparable in features to windows 10 and a loosened hardware requirement
@@jokeletsplay Same... never gonna happen.
So if a device with the recall feature gets stolen and is accessed, the thieves now have access to almost everything you've done on that device which can include sensitive data and personal information, who at microsoft thought this was a good idea?
Why are you surprised? It's already well known that Windows itself is both Malware and Spywrare.
The steal your data and resell it team.
Does Windows not come with default system encryption? Like Apple FileVault? BitLocker?
@@sloanNYC it does, however that does literally nothing if a bad actor has the physical machine with an admin password
dude don't you think if your physical machine is getting stolen you are already fucked in that regard.
Of you listen to the recall feature and don't instantly know that now you're being spy 24/7 you are naive af.
Who is spying? Do you mean that for every citizen there is another person watching? That sounds silly
@@johnnyWL how old are you?
@@johnnyWL No. Just Microsoft.
@@hardwire666toono there not
It is illegal - Federal Law - to void the warranty for upgrading the unit. It is on the manufacturer to prove that you broke it. They are counting on you not trying so they don't have to repair a faulty unit. Asus had this issue very recently.
You can turn off Recall today... I give them a year before they make it mandatory after how much data they farm from it. Sure the images remain local, but doesnt mean what is detected on them isn't sent over.
the lawsuite will flow fast, if from no where else, than the EU, and that will expose a way for us to do it ourselves in the US.
@@xBINARYGODx just like how apple did right?
I give it 6 months before corporations will lock you out from turning it off, so they can see what you have done on your work computer.
@@TENGILL They can already see what you're doing.
AI is literally Skynet’s Trojan Horse. Remember “Genesis” in the more recent Terminator movie reboot? Genesis was launched and marketed EXACTLY like this. To the point that it’s ominous.
Yup
Hollywood gave them ideas!
Windows is officially a spyware ☠️
This Update in a nutshell
1. Can it run Steam
2. Can I play games with Anti-cheat like COD or Destiny 2
3. Do the fans run doing mundane tasks like checking email or a web call?
4. Can I turn off Recall, how can I make sure it's off and not running in the background? How easy is it for a remote actor to turn it back on?
I'm sure there's a registery/services edit to force it off
1. yes
2. probably not, the gpu is pretty much only as good as an amd apu
3. subject to testing
4. yes
for #2, anticheat requires pretty low-level access to the system, wc means no emulation and you'll have to wait for the developers to port the game to ARM
This is simply to max life expectancy to pretend they are competing with Apple and AMD and having new and trendy ARM cores, Qualcomm will disappoint them just like Intel did.
Apple's like: "fans? What fans? You mean that you guys don't just boil your processors under some tin foil and call it a day?"
I can’t wait for everyone to hate this.
Please
except for when apple introduces something similar, then everyone will love it
Just what I expected, yep, here they are.
@@Fals3Agenttrue 😂
@@Fals3Agent “innovation”
law enforcement community spoke
Microsoft listened 😂
Echoing the rest, DATA PRIVACY NIGHTMARE!
You tried so hard to make this sound normal and not like an absolute nightmare.
Yeah Austin is oblivious to fancy 2020 tech
Him going over the Series X/S is a good example of that personally
I hope that's a PERMANENT DISABLED feature for the Recall Feature.
Yeah, "Recall" won't be misused by someone remote
You look at a cat video 16 years ago when you first started. Your fired. Employer replaces the person with an AI chatbot
It is spy on employees.
Thanks, I hate it. This is a privacy nightmare and feels completely dystopian.
Just block an app from phoning home to Microsoft or to the app maker.
@@NormanF62 it's incredibly easy for MS to disable the app if it can't phone home. I have zero trust in them.
...I'm no data privacy expert, and I really don't care that much about it...
But if Microsoft doesn't get sued for Recall, then I'm just completely gonna lose hope about privacy in general.
The recall thing....... NO WAY! 👎😬
Austin, how can anyone possibly be anything but annoyed with anything Windows
I’m fine with Windows, I rarely experience problems at all, when “Copilot” comes, I just turn it off and that’s it, if not in the system, then through the code.
This sounds horrible when hackers can SEE EVERYTHING YOU DO
Coming soon: MS Keylogger for corporate deployment. Manage every keystroke in your organization, see what they make and see where they put it.
if for corporate, who cares? your work computer is not your computer and you already dont have any privacy on it. Its the person use stuff you should care about, and you should care about it all teh time, not just when you hear "MS".
@@xBINARYGODx I would think every worker would care. Literally gives every manager the ability to stand over that all of their employees shoulders in an efficient way so that they can actually do it to all of their subordinates.
@@tboatrig um, many corporate entities already use keyloggers and various types of trackers to keep tabs on what their employees are doing on company devices. This would just remove the necessity to use 3rd party applications to do so.
@@wairgald Yes.. So, are you saying that that is the tech you want to see making giant leaps forward?
You lost me at "Windows will still cut down performance when on battery". That's a big, underrated advantage the Mac has had for years now. Aside from that, and aside from the fact that Windows/Qualcomm are 4 years late (compared to Apple), the new laptop looks awesome at $999.
Really the blame should be with Intel and AMD. After 4 years since the release of the M1 neither company have even tried to emulate Apple silicons performance efficiency. At least Qualcomme are making a genuine effort but it will take a year or two for them to emulated what Apple achieved.
Features sound great, but until those features are 100% able to run on system not connected to the Internet, forget it. Not that I am planning on doing anything "nafarious" but I don't want some nanny state AI telling me what is and what is not a problem.
Microsoft really needs to fire their entire product naming department. They've been terrible since "Xbox One".
Forced AI integration? Man am I happy I jumped ship to Linux when I did
still nice hardware for linux
I have pretty much jumped ship too to Linux Mint. Play TF2 on it on the daily.
Yeah… I’m not updating to copilot anything
I want to use Linux too.
But im stuck to windows since i play Multiplayer Games.
Linux has its place but this is pretty cool tbh
why would it void the warenty? ( Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act ) says that you are allowed to open your device.
The sooner we can all get off WINDOWS the better.
There aren't any better alternatives so you may as well just get over that dream.
@@SintaxBSD Did someone mention Arch Linux?
@@SintaxBSD Give Linux Mint a shot
My take is that this feature was specifically created for companies who hired people for Remote work, so they can basically access that data via management apps…
You are right. I was offered a remote job the other day. They were going to give me a corporate computer and I found out they were going to us AI to video me all day. I told them no way and I would rather be unemployed.
Microsoft is really trying to sell me a mac!
Yeah, no thanks, I'm sticking w/ x86 so I can game and not get spied on.
@@diamondlion47 gaming is a fair point but between the ads they want to put in windows 12 and all the recall feature that will "definitely be on device only" spying on you for database building and marketing purposes seems like it will be what windows 12 is best at.
How to disable windows recall.
Trending video on youtube when this launches.
Spyware? Made by Microsoft, so you know it's buggy and insecure right off the bat? Shipped on every new PC? On by default? I love this for Microsoft, they're actively killing what used to be their cash cow.
Was this a review or a paid promotion?
Privacy is no longer a feature either 😊
Austin must not be privacy focused lol
They are just doing it for money. He probably runs Linux on his own private machine lol.
Hard. Freakin. Pass.
The New Windows is still a nightmare...
Snapdragon X and Prism is exciting. I won’t be sold until the reviews, but I want to believe that Qualcomm can keep up and offer good iGPU for a 780M-like equivalent
As for Recall, not only do you have to make sure to delete your browsing history you now need to make sure your windows drive get wiped too in case you get mistaken for a Boeing whistleblower
Upgrading the SSD on the laptop voids the warranty? Time to get Louis Rossmann here
Recall is a privacy nightmare. I'm going to post this on social media that has every bit of my life on it. Using my phone that tracks my location down to the block. I want my privacy!!! Siri, Alexa, you hear that.
If microsoft doesn't allow high end gpus to be in place of an npu, people are gonna be mad. Nvidia and amd have spent the last few gens adding AI cores and systems to their hardware. To not be able to use that and to require a dedicated npu within the cpu will be a huge waste
Not really, aren't the ai cores for dlss and FSR?
@@Chemzborgor their for anything that wants to use them. I've done plenty of LLM, image gen and other AI workloads with my gpu. Plus currently FSR doesn't use any form of AI, DLSS does
I love the idea of everything being processed on device, but after the whole Eufy camera debacle, we can't really trust that companies are actually keeping up their end of the bargain.
Can't wait to remove Co pilot from my windows pc 👍🏻
im stayin with windows 10 till it dies.
Don’t have long
what a luddite
@@YoungMrBlueenterprise version has many years left.
Won't it lose support next year?
@@Fals3Agent Not wanting the fertiliser that Windows 11 is selling doesn't make you a Luddite.
Recall means I have to let Windows know what I’m doing on my PC. Sounds like a privacy nightmare.
LOVE how suddenly everyone is so worried about their privacy and they voice it through a social media owned by one of the biggest tech firms in the world who DEFINITELY values their privacy.
@RJpkFire google is a multi-billion company but you got your extensions, I guess you are fine
Why is everyone worried about this? We all know companies respect their employees' privacy and ability to independently get their work done without the need for additional surveillance through software. Right?
Ok recall, while a bit “creepy” would actually be a game changer for me. I’m super disorganized, and think “oh I’ll remember the name of that website or video when I am ready to buy/do it in a week” and totally forget it, then to avoid that I will make tons of bookmarks or shortcuts or notes etc that get lost and make no sense. I really like the idea personally.
Microsoft really doing the best advertisement for Linux.
Your linux also will chase AI to compete for sure.
@Anonicus that's because the idealism comes to play. People who ignore this tech will left behind. Corporate is chasing efficiency. AI really improves productivity. Like it or not. AI will be a mainstream. I don't even like it. But can't deny. Your linux will be on demand to be more powerful. Or your boss who doesn't care except money will start comparing worker with non-AI and worker with AI.
unless government really do something
@@rizkipuruzebest part is that if you don’t want it you can make an operating system without it if you have Linux.
Windows and Mac don’t allow people to modify their app list let alone the operating system.
Your comment made clear your ignorance about the nature of Linux which is why I took the time to make clear the point that Linux is in itself a clear winner in terms of privacy.
Dang. I typed a lot to reply here but it gets deleted. What a wrong with this.
@@rizkipuruze No worries..you can try again later..
Why is Windows deciding what I can and can't draw with my laptop?
Because we don't own Windows PCs anymore, Microsoft merely permits people to use them and they decide what we can and cannot do.
The best solution is to ditch Windows and use any alternative OS.
Because there's TOS for every app and feature? What kind of brain-dead question is this.
Ofcourse MS won't appreciate the news headlines "Kid kills 3 in home-made bomb blast made using step-by-step guide from Microsoft copilot"
They aren't? They are limiting what you can use their product, MS Paint, to draw. I'm sure there will/are plenty of 3rd party options that won't/don't have these limitations. If that isn't good enough for you then you can try using a different OS. You own the hardware, but Windows has always been a licensed product and was never something to technically owned.
@@wairgald stop using Windows? bet
Theres a secret 32gb & 64gb ram option direct from Microsoft that other dealers wont carry, the downside is that it comes in black only. Other thing to note is that some of these Snapdragon devices have the cringe feature known as "no headphone jack". The surface Pro is one of those the new yoga is going to be as well. Dell tried it and they flopped in sales for the XPS13 idk why companies continue to do this cringe trend.
How well encrypted, and how secured is the decryption mechanism for recall? If its all on device, what's stopping malicious actor to pretend to open it as a user to then have it decrypted and a bunch of data stolen?
Whats stopping a malicious actor from stealing your data now, without recall? It's not like you always log off every website, encrypt your local data with third party encryption software etc. do you? What i'm saying is, if someone got access t your machine and login information, it's game over anyways lol.
Why not just give us a simple windows that is not filled with Bloatware, Spyware, eating half of your ram, useless AI, a normal right click, & letting users to have fun with it?
Ya know, like Windows 98, Windows XP, & Windows 7.
first thing i do when i get it is to disable all that is AI. And if i cant, i simply wont use it.
It all should be disabled default honestly.
Why can't they make they make a NPU that attaches like the GPU for older PCs?
hope this means arm for windows is now actually kicked off, and not that scuffed earlier variant
Excellent video explaining everything. I’m loving the competition!
So if I don't have NPU in my laptop I won't get the AI fluff or I will, but It will just be slowing down my CPU or GPU?
Us users: Use this in gaming.
Microsoft: Takes screenshot in middle of gaming match (makes you lag in middle of a round)
Us Users: Windows 11 is trash
Windows 11 literally gets worse everytime i hear about it: needs a microsoft account, removing built in android emulation and now adding awful AI
the amazon store was handy but lacked apps, if playstore was on the android emulator it would be used alot more.
You could load any apk manually.
awful AI oke twitter user
I am really enjoying the tech arms races that have been springing back to life. Screens are getting brighter and with better displays, chips are getting more performant but with greater efficiency, battery life is getting big leaps. Starting to feel like what I wanted out of the laptop space in like 2015-2019 is finally catching up.
I'm not. They are racing to make things worse.
Well, time to SWITCH TO LINUX!
I guess
" it's a 100% encrypted on your device" like I'd trust them that they don't have the decrypter of that encryption
No wonder windows 11 is losing marketshare to windows 10. This whack ass os is getting more restrictive and bloated wiith each update. Id rather jump ship to linux than upgrade to 11
lol windows normies getting upset in 2024. Thats a good laugh
As soon as my appplications stop supporting Windows 10, I'm gonna jump ship to Fedora (A Linux distro).
My takeaway- Macs are still better than Windows for laptops.
Praying for a viable new OS that isn't a janky distro that only appeals to a specific user-set.
Takes a screenshot every time something changes … not Orwellian at all 🤦🏻♂️
Just would like to add: Prism is not an “emulator” for x86 to ARM, but a translation layer that allows for apps to still run natively on that processor while converting x86 instruction calls to their ARM equivalents. This is a lot more efficient than an emulator would be, but it would still be optimal to have a native ARM app as compared to using a translation layer.
Imagine being excited for adware.
I don't think the majority want copilot or AI built inside windows. I want windows 11 to operate like windows 7, the Ai and copilot should be optional especially when they are always trying to force you to use an edge browser.
this making windows 10 look so good rn...........
Windows: Spyware Edition. No thanks. As someone who works in cyber security, this takes data exfiltration possibilities to new levels. Everyone that cares about privacy and security should vehemently reject this.
Windows has been spyware since Windows 10.
I just want M3 levels of battery life and performance wirh more than 8GB of ram for $1000 ffs
Yeah, no thanks. Spyware surveillance pad I can live without.
as someone who used to do IT, i saw this coming ten years ago. it was super clear after windows 8, that Microsoft was trying to make windows more 'simpler' in operation. heck windows server 2008 was basically easy mode compared to Linux.
And this is why hackers and scammers use Linux
Don’t care windows 11 was enough to make me never want to touch windows again, will be sticking on win 10 and Linux
I'm getting really tired of all this AI stuff tbh.
I'm not really feeling the spirit of this AI boom. I don't care about future promises or what it "could" help me with.
Especially for stuff like art, I'd rather commission stuff made by real people with real feeling behind it and is exactly what I want.
another reason to use linux
Oh look, another thing that Microsoft jumped into as an afterthought, spent way too much time and money on, and will ultimately drop support for because they didn't understand their customer base.
I'm sticking to Windows 10 till the day I die.
No normal human is going to use the "Copilot + PC" moniker. Even if it is not uploading or processing the screenshots on Microsoft's servers, does it still send any metadata related to it? If so, then it is still the same level of yikes as uploading your desktop. These devices are no longer yours. Imagine a piece of paper and pen refusing to write or draw because your creativity might disagree with Microsoft's interests.
Nerd glazes microsoft in 4k
Windows Server managers having a nightmare RN