@@d3xmeisterThey will never ever compete with a professional camera for sure, but they are very good for taking punchy nice looking snaps and videos for social media or just capturing life's special moments. They have come a long way from the days of the first camera phones. (Mine was a Nokia 6020) Now they truly WERE awful but we loved them in the day and they did their job. Pitifully...😂😂😂
I gave up my iPhone for Sony Xperia and I do not regret it. The iPhone is good, but I hated the overprocessing of the pictures, even RAW photos were processed. I get better and more natural Photos from Xperia. The Menu was not a big deal because I am good familiar with Sony Menu from Sony cameras.
I gave up on an Xperia phones years ago, after having several models the software bugs and stability issues just became too frustrating. Sony must have known this as they popped up a notification telling me to manually reset the phone every week! I moved to Samsung and then to iPhone and got fed up with all the over processing. I now carry a Fuji X-100F in my bag which produces far better images than any of these phones, I mainly just use the phone for video and the occasional snap now.
@@MrSamoDudeYou do realise that Xperia phones now are very different from Xperia phones from "years ago" when you used them? Since then the Xperia division (which used to be a wholly seperate division within Sony) has been fully integrated with audio, Alpha cameras, Bravia TVs etc.....put under new management/leadership. And the entire Xperia line was rebooted. If your experience of Xperia phones was from years ago then your information is woefully out of date and no longer relevant to the conversation.
@@Sabundy Nope, it’s still perfectly relevant. The end result is still the same, once bitten twice shy, I wouldn’t buy a Sony phone again due to my poor past experience, and a dedicated camera with a bigger sensor will still produce remarkable better images than any small phone sensor. Whether the end user would notice that difference is debatable though, especially if they’re only ever viewed on a small phone screen. For everyday snaps the manufacturers color science and processing tend to have more impact, and the reviews and samples make it clear that Sony’s is far from the best even on the latest models.
before i started photography, i never thought that phones look oversharpened and unnatural. Since im a photographer, i think smartphone stuff looks absolutly awfull unrealistic :D Props for the sony beeing more natural!
That's the case with most people. It's why most people think and believe that the iphone camera is "the best" 😂😂😂😂. Good marketing by Apple as well as the average person's lack of knowledge about photography has convinced them of it.
All you have to do is to turn on manual mode and it will turn off most of the processing - the way they tested cameras here is just so invalid, like comparing back camera with front camera video footage. That's just insane from testing point of view
Tony’s words weren’t aligning with the examples they were showing. The Sony faces were more saturated for a lot of the examples. And a blown out sky isn’t more natural, it’s just more natural to what a normal camera would do (but not what your eyes see).
Side by Side Comparison 4:23 Front Facing Camera Video 5:20 Front Facing Camera Video ( Iphone) Vs Rear Camera (Sony) 6:20 Wide Angle Photo (Raw) 7:19 Super Wide Photo 7:40 Macro Video 7:58 Potrait Mode 8:22 Potrait Mode 2 8:40 Tele Photo 9:47 Low light Photo, Main Lens 10:44 Low light Video, Main Lens
Northrup always pushes for this "Android Camera" thing and am definitely on their side, I hope your predictions about Sony's next move by the Xperia "experiment" is true.
It’s not android or IOS, Sony has real optical zoom and real colors. iPhone colors are fake and processed. It’s like eating processed food daily lol. I’ve owned Sony 1 IV and ordered the V now. It’s a video makers future
You are the supreme hypocrites and marketing like reviews ever! How to say about Sony is bad when you have only a probe?! And how to say about Sony when you s*ck Cook's crap?! Shame!
I really like what Sony does with it's high end phones. The range of pro tools they offer can't be beat. And Apple really need to sort out the over-sharpening and colour science.
also, all the shadows are blue in my iphone, i always have to manually edit the photos and dial the warmth to 30-60, and so many peoples just post with that wrong white balance, usually cold, so cold images and yet somehow the faces are orange...., and they don't even realize, it has become a norm
I got my Xperia 1 V a month ago or so from adorama as well. Best phone I've ever had. Speakers, screen resolution, and the camera and video are awesome to play with. Best phone by far. Threw my S23 ultra in the drawer
To be more accurate it was an Android thing. Now big manufacturers like Samsung are upping their game for software support with their latest offerings. Sony has to follow up with that because the price has to be reflected in everything. We are talking about the most expensive of all the offerings.
Android updates are in most cases useless. I have a phone with android 7 which is working perfectly today, without glitches. The most important updates are those made by OEMs that improves the phone's performance on different capabilities (camera, system, battery etc).
@@alxdava2004 Well Alex some apps dont work anymore with android 7, that's another reason why i switched my Xperia Z5 compact (Android 7) to get a Xperia X compact (android 8). For example i had to withtdraw an order from an amazon locker, the amazon app is supposed to connect to the locker via bluetooth....seems it needs android 8 and above to do that...
I had such high hopes when I saw you guys were reviewing this phone. I was expecting to see you work the photographer angle a lot harder. I am VERY interested in seeing how well the DNGs from the 1 V respond to torture in Lightroom. How much headroom is there in highlights and shadows, including if you expose for the phone's strengths? How well do the colours respond to curves manipulation? Do any of the colours clip? etc etc etc This device, with all the manual controls it offers, is clearly meant for this kind of enthusiast/pro workflows. All you guys did was just pixel peep!! Also, in what universe were the vlog test skin tones of the Sony better than the iPhone's?
The SD card option makes my old desktop relevant again and it won't need an expensive hardware upgrade i had been planning. Great phone and will be my next, when it is released late July in Australia. Also now plan to buy a decent set of wired headphones thanks to Sony.... earbuds and bluetooth 5.0 just don't cut it for me.
I've been a Samsung user for as long as I can remember. Currently have a Note 20 Ultra. I won't use a phone that doesn't have an SD card slot. As Samsung has decided to be the Apple "B" Team, it looks like I'm moving to Sony.
Only the Audio jack and micro sd card slot is all ready a destroyer of the iPhone. If you use the best settings for the lowlight video situation I believe it will be better then the iPhone. iPhone no micro sd card slot a very important thing for creators. Iphone no audio jack a very important thing for creators, iPhone no special button to shoot and focus on objects,Sony all having it. For me I’m waiting for the successor of the xperia pro i mk2 there are rumors sony is planning to use dual one inch sensors.
Barbary, I agreed with you. In addition, the Sony camera Menu (user interface) is also better than those confusing smart phones camera menu. For camera/video users, Sony is a winner here. But if people concerned too much about quality and details of video or pictures... Get themselves an APSC or FF camera. You just can't have everything in one piece. That's why I'm owning a Samsung Note20ultra and a Sony A74 with 35mnGM.
I like this review as they have a low light test but do not use it as reference. Too many reviews turn the lights off and compare cameras just based on night vision. So many of us will never shoot photos or video under candle light. That said the Iphone has a really good balance for the average user but If ATT had the Sony My pre order would be in already. Gonna have to wait for the inevitable price cuts and snag unlocked version then.
Yeah, that was a huge difference. The iPhone actually looks very good in low light video whereas the Sony looks like a crappy old camera. I prefer the iPhone cameras generally but refuse to switch to the Apple ecosystem. I like every other feature of the Sony Xperia 1 V so I'm going to go with it. Hopefully some updates will make their cameras better.
I compared the Xperia Pro I with the new Xperia 1 V. The Pro I was clearly a lot stronger for the wide and zoom lens. I think with more updates, the 1 V camera will get better (that's what I've noticed with the Pro I and the Xperia 1 ii). If they made an Exmor T 1” sensor, that would be a game changer.
Appreciate the video. It’s Mark 1 five not “V”. I know you guys do mostly pics but for video makers Sony is the real deal. It has real optical zoom and true colors unlike an iPhone.
Some very good evolutions that I was waiting for since a decade, Sony seems to finally understand what year we are. They should go further and get rid of the face cam and integrate a small built in backscreen.
Besides the phone review, I love the way you two present 😃. It's so natural and calm, with no exaggeration, and the filming is amazing as well. You've got a new follower here 😅. Keep it up
5:20 the Sony looks way oversaturated (and/or the iPhone overexposed) in the Vlogging comparison, but the exact opposite is observed at 8:38 for the Portrait mode. Does this happen consistently (i.e., is it a video vs stills thing)??
It is not oversaturated in sony vlog but he just change the shutter speed rule which darkened the video a little bit to stop from overexposed and the iPhone cannot do that in the video so it is overexposed
How could sony do that worse in the low light video? It's impossible for me to believe, i assume something must went wrong in the sony, like it have cropped heavily in active stabilization or 4k@120fps mode. Or it had recorded in 48mp mode instead of binned 12mp, or something is wrong within this unit.
Probably used Photo Pro (not great for videos) with wide dynamic range turned on (which shoots at 120 FPS). Video Pro will result in much better footage as it unlocks longer shutter speed, higher ISO and better noise reduction algorithm.
iPhone wins 1 or 2 results - iphone fanboys, I told you iPhone is the greatest camera on earth. It doesn't matter if Sony wins 99% of the time. That 1% is more important.
iPhone 14PM user here. There will be no comparison between the two. Sony make there own sensors, lens and camera software. I love my iPhone, but the Sony is going to be much better for photography.
Record video via a cable?? We need a video on this feature! Will it use the connected camera as a camera in apps like facebook live, instagram and TikTok?
@@JoeGillian0 yes, but i think only 30 seconds max, which is enough for some astro, however, i remember, they do capture like big stars but that's it :( still good, i had one photo with the phone with the tent having the inside lamp on, and the mountain on the back and a few stars in the sky, that was a pretty photo i will never forget, taken with a huawei p9 leica dual :) and i do remember the s7 edge had this option too, up to 15 seconds max i think
@@thelensguy6050 it s also 30s max on Xperia 1 IV (to shoot at very dark night or use a ND filter) but Samsung has now added astrophotography mode (I have not tested since I live in a city)
I don't understand how Tony can take the Xperia for 1 day and get drastically different results than every other reviewer out there. There is absolutely no chance the iphone can produce a better night shot than the Sony at double the light hitting the sensor. Its like they didn't want to shame Apple too hard, so they can still get sponsorships I dunno
Hey, Chelsea! Next time Tony reviews the Xperia 1 VI and slaps the vlogging monitor on its back to make fun of your iPhone's front camera, just put your Apple Watch on the back of your iPhone and boom! You have a video monitor, you can use the main camera AND you don't need a cable.
Just got my Xperia 1 V and updated to android 14! Could not be more happier and certainly glad I did not get a Samsung or an Apple. Focus Peaking is really handy and as for S-Cinetone=wow!
"He's still trying to figure out his camera." "The Sony is made for professional content creators and gives me a lot of options." LOL It is a joy to watch you two interacting and having - obviously - a blast doing it. Marriage and relationships aren't easy - but, you make it look like it is. Excellent review. I, personally, can't stand Apple or anything Apple so will never even consider an iPhone. The Xperia, I find very interesting but - if I am serious about shooting something I would use a real camera because, let's face it, though the phone cameras are admittedly extremely good; fact is if you want true quality you have to bite the bullet and use a real camera.
@@Ortopedija1989 I, myself, am not into analog - if you mean film cameras - anymore. I realize there are results they can yield that digital can't. But, it gets to the point where there's only so much time and with the adroit use of Photoshop etc. I find there's virtually no "look" I can't achieve. It is, of course, a refined artistic distinction I would imagine you are referring to. No?
Not everyone can take their larger camera everywhere with them. I would prefer that the next best thing accessible to me, in essence, my phone, would be as close an experience as possible to my camera in situations like that.
@@LoganSLRLockwood my 35mm OM10 is just suitable and what i need for traveling and shooting, but for real project i use my RB67 which force me to visit fitness 🙂. And also use iphone8 if my wife wants me to shoot her😜.
@@LoganSLRLockwood I agree. I don't think one need spend $1,300.00 though to achieve superior results. If one had, for instance, the Google Pixel Pro 7 and was well versed in Photoshop / Lightroom etc. there is little one could not achieve - to a certain degree. And for all the rest - there are real cameras to press into service that are up to the task at hand - instead of second best! Lol
One thought that I have had for a while now is that Sony's phone cameras are more balanced to the oriental market, and mainly Japan. I have noticed that Japan in particular tends to like color accuracy. I think that tends to also be the case throughout Hong Kong and S. Korea, but it is probably strongest in Japan. Oddly, the Samsung look seems to me about as highly processed as Apple, but differently. The Sony look can be very subtle. I remember an ad for a Japanese product that pointed out that Japan was a major center for graded pearls. Was that a Fujifilm ad? I'm not sure. But yeah, subtlety, accuracy -- I tend to see these in Japanese photography. When I look at the Sony phones (like my Xperia 10 iii), these are what I find. I wonder what I would see if I looked at other Japanese phones? There are phones in Japan that we do not see in North America. I wonder if they are closer to Sony's in some ways?
Xperia 1V and I phone 14 pro literally have the same camera specs on the wide angle 24mm main camera lens which is 48MP. Probably compare the lens modes of each phone to get a close comparison? Ultra wide vs ultra wide, telephoto vs telephoto, and 24mm vs 24mm. i Phone 14 pro max's ultra wide is also 12MP but Sony Xpreia 1V's 24mm is also 48MP similar to the i phone. When it comes to the macro capability, both have the same 20cm minimum focus distance by using the 24mm lens so technically they have the same or similar macro capabilty. The sony camera has better telephoto than the iphone but the iphone has slightly wider focal length with the ultra wide. All in all in my opinion if we compared each lens respectively on their own specific focal lengths, xperia would hands down be better. Thanks for the review.
s-cinetone Tony, you missed it in the vlog section, that was going to be so much more better for the sony :)) i wondered why so orange on sony, well, you used the standard sdr
Does it overheat as much as the Xperia Pro-1 because mine overheats like crazy during 4K video shoots and it has to shut down or pause to cool down. This is one thing I hate about the Sony Xperia Pro-1. Other than that, it takes great videos and pictures.
A lot of reviewers have remarked on that Sony has really fixed the overheating issue. It is actually a general problem for phones using the last generation of Qualcomm chips so Qualcomm has improved power management dramatically on the new chip used, which carries over into Sony's new line of phones this year. I am sure Sony has made some tweaks as well to ensure this is improved significantly since they really got hammered on this issue in the reviews last year on the Xperia 1 IV.
you forgot to blame samsung for that, samsung desing the 888 and 888 gen 1 chips. blame THEM for the over heating eeven samsungs ownn 22 ultra had the same issue
Sony is the only company still making flagships with headphone jacks and sd cards... truly the only company catering to people who truly use their phones. Everyone else is like "nah you use it the way we tell you to. And please buy pointless accessories."
I remember when Apple ditched the 3.5mm jack and introduced the bluetooth earbuds for £120 extra on top of the ridculous price of the phone - and STILL idiots wouldn't ditch Apple. It's like they cast a magic spell.
#1:37 Please explain to me, Why is it good that a phone focus when you halfpress the shutter button? Is not most smart phone cameras focusing constantly without the need of pressing a button?
Pretty good comparison. But I think the best thing for Sony would be to add also the photo / video form the camera you are filming the video with, to show how wrong the Apple or Samsung are in oversharpening and other tricks they are doing. Edit: It's showing anyway, and you did a great job of pointing this out.
6:35 that’s not more details on the iPhone, that’s word processing, basically adding details that do not exist (in this case the letters it has detected) using ML algorithms “Deep fusion”, it fails in certain scenarios (finer details) like in the back the wood lines on the house are better and naturally represented by the Sony.
They didn't warn us about anything not being ready to review, so I think you can expect consistent results. Often they will tell us that some features aren't complete, but that wasn't the case.
They keep saying that Sony is built to do something different but let's be honest just because something aspires to be something doesnt mean it's different because of it's aspirations
Can you record external audio in main video app or you need to use open camera app. I have Motorola mobile and I can only record with external microphone using open camera app that doesn't work with all my mobile lenses and resolutions.
Fun fact, the low light image combined thing that all phones use these days was created by a Sony engineer who works at Sony PlayStation on videogames. :)
I think they may have went wrong somewhere, either with the app or settings. Because in other reviews Sonys low light modes are incredible on the Mark V. Ollie Nilsson and Kohki Yamaguchi's videos really showcase what this device is capable of!
Fun review/comparison. As a photography enthusiast, my main selection criteria for a smartphone is for it to take the best photos in the market at the time of purchase. I am not convinced the Sony does that, at least not better than the P60 Pro, but I'll wait for DXOMARK to have their say.
DxOMark is a consultation company. They sell advices and test kits. Product that had high score in DxOMark are those that bought the test kit and tune their product specifically to get high score in DxOMark. None of them were tuned for real life application.
for me its not competing with iphone, but my note 20 ultra. I wish they'd put a stylus in the sony, and I'd buy it right now. You could take quality photos and edit with pressure sensitivity all in the same compact form factor of a phone. Though I must say it made your skin look quite orange in that early footage.
The very last bit about the low light performance in video determined the winner for me. If Sony could be on par with the iphone here, it would be a no-brainer.
Maybe Sony could release an update allowing the full resolution of the main sensor for it's RAWs. And I want to make two criticism of the Xperia because it appears Sony is finally listening! For years I complained to reviewers of the past models that they should test the "Pro" modes. Finally this time finally everyone is doing that, but I was hurt by the monkey paw. With the V Sony finally started doing a bit of "computational photography", but it only shows on Basic/Auto mode. The Dynamic Range is that in the Pro/Manual modes seems very limited is actually very good, even exposing the lights correctly during the night, but only in Basic/Auto mode. Couldn't Sony keep this processing when using manual controls too? The other things is... personally, I don't think that variable zoom camera is doing much. The range is too limited and the less very blurry with low contrast. I don't think is work the cost, not at this quality. Apart for that, it's perfect! And I think that despite the bad result in night video seems in Tony and Chelsea test, you can get dramatically better results adjusting the shutter speed correctly.
I personally don't like these super-tall aspect ratio because the user interface is generally poorly designed in landscape mode. It takes up far too much space and the content is limited to a thin strip. Examples: browsing the web, using the quick menu or even the keyboard. I'm not saying that the phone is terrible, but the interface really needs to be improved for these screen formats.
i was brought here because been searching for Sony 1V. great content suited for photographer curiosity, but i need to know this. starting from 4:00 timestamp, what camera is used to film that ??? awesome outdoor color and autofocus !!!
You Can also take pictures of the moon with both yes the Sony phone would be able to zoom in farther, but if you bring the exposure down with the iPhone after zooming in all the way, you tap on the moon and then bring the brightness all the way down or at least as close to the bottom as you want, you can get a good moon shot same with the Sony phone except I don’t think you can move the exposure down. Maybe you can but either way both phones are great for moon shots also, has anyone ever noticed that if you Flip the pictures of the moon after taking them and then turn the picture two times or so you get the same craters that are on the Earth globe, and it looks identical like a mirror, and all of the same areas that the Earth has in the green and blue globe part of the earth. You also get on the moon if you do this it’s an exact replica
An iPhone is also not a benchmark for the best smartphone cameras. So it's not a big deal that Sony is significantly better here than the IPhone 14 pro. The currently best camera smartphone is the Huawei P60 pro. That would be much more interesting as a comparison.
Interesting video! I found myself looking more at the footage from the camera that was filming most of the video instead of the iPhone or Sony. On a personal level I think it is like trying split atoms comparing those two photos. People who get the Sony I believe know what they want, period. AS far as the iPhone I believe many people eyes are trained for that so they like that picture. Personally I take both phones since both are wonderful but when I return to my senses probably the iPhone since the phone is good and I am in their ecosystem (like a happy jail where they keep taking my money since I keep giving it to them). You video was pretty funny as well.
I noticed that too, so many people posting blue shadows from their iphone and orange faces that it became the norm, when i edited a photo i received from a friend, on spot, and dialed the warmth to +40 compensate that wrong white balance, dialed down the saturation, added more brilliance to cure orange face, and sent it back, the person was in shock, she never knew photos can look so good with her phone.... she said it looks like it was taken with a pro camera, well it would be great if they can make for this poor souls the adjustments automatically so they get better photos and its easy, they provide the editing tool with the phone, also for the video, its nuts! but people don't want additional work and spend time learning how to do it, so lazy, we are going to end-up like in the Wall-E movie
When you connected the Nikon to the Xperia for external monitoring/recording, could you use focus peaking and false color functions on the Xperia, or is that exclusive to alpha cameras?
Can you connect the Nikon to the Xperia for external monitoring/recording or use focus peaking and false color functions on the Xperia? Or is that exclusive to alpha cameras?
Did I notice On the studio At the end of the video When Chelsea turns her head and look towards Tony, the camera focussed on Tony's eyes perfectly and the other way around??
The iPhone is NOT fine with its extreme over-sharpening, red tomato face, and yellow white balance. Why is nobody talking about this?
To me they all phones look basically the same. Awful. But fine for normal people documenting their life
@@d3xmeisterThey will never ever compete with a professional camera for sure, but they are very good for taking punchy nice looking snaps and videos for social media or just capturing life's special moments. They have come a long way from the days of the first camera phones. (Mine was a Nokia 6020) Now they truly WERE awful but we loved them in the day and they did their job. Pitifully...😂😂😂
Red Tomato face' 😆
Had this same opinion on every pics that i had seen ... Now i got the best comment!
Many get paid not to talk about this. Apple has a lot of influence. So do other mobile manufacturers though.
He said it at 4:30
I gave up my iPhone for Sony Xperia and I do not regret it. The iPhone is good, but I hated the overprocessing of the pictures, even RAW photos were processed. I get better and more natural Photos from Xperia. The Menu was not a big deal because I am good familiar with Sony Menu from Sony cameras.
Same here. After the manual control of an Experia I don't think I could ever go back
I gave up on an Xperia phones years ago, after having several models the software bugs and stability issues just became too frustrating. Sony must have known this as they popped up a notification telling me to manually reset the phone every week! I moved to Samsung and then to iPhone and got fed up with all the over processing. I now carry a Fuji X-100F in my bag which produces far better images than any of these phones, I mainly just use the phone for video and the occasional snap now.
@@MrSamoDudeYou do realise that Xperia phones now are very different from Xperia phones from "years ago" when you used them? Since then the Xperia division (which used to be a wholly seperate division within Sony) has been fully integrated with audio, Alpha cameras, Bravia TVs etc.....put under new management/leadership. And the entire Xperia line was rebooted. If your experience of Xperia phones was from years ago then your information is woefully out of date and no longer relevant to the conversation.
@@Sabundy Nope, it’s still perfectly relevant. The end result is still the same, once bitten twice shy, I wouldn’t buy a Sony phone again due to my poor past experience, and a dedicated camera with a bigger sensor will still produce remarkable better images than any small phone sensor. Whether the end user would notice that difference is debatable though, especially if they’re only ever viewed on a small phone screen. For everyday snaps the manufacturers color science and processing tend to have more impact, and the reviews and samples make it clear that Sony’s is far from the best even on the latest models.
My LG V60 takes similar pictures to the Sony. Lg always made one of the best cameras.
before i started photography, i never thought that phones look oversharpened and unnatural. Since im a photographer, i think smartphone stuff looks absolutly awfull unrealistic :D Props for the sony beeing more natural!
Yeah, phone pics have that overly crispy look
true sometimes people feel underwhelmed when they look at pictures from a camera compared to a mobile phone hahahaha
That's the case with most people. It's why most people think and believe that the iphone camera is "the best" 😂😂😂😂. Good marketing by Apple as well as the average person's lack of knowledge about photography has convinced them of it.
All you have to do is to turn on manual mode and it will turn off most of the processing - the way they tested cameras here is just so invalid, like comparing back camera with front camera video footage. That's just insane from testing point of view
Tony’s words weren’t aligning with the examples they were showing. The Sony faces were more saturated for a lot of the examples. And a blown out sky isn’t more natural, it’s just more natural to what a normal camera would do (but not what your eyes see).
Side by Side Comparison
4:23 Front Facing Camera Video
5:20 Front Facing Camera Video ( Iphone) Vs Rear Camera (Sony)
6:20 Wide Angle Photo (Raw)
7:19 Super Wide Photo
7:40 Macro Video
7:58 Potrait Mode
8:22 Potrait Mode 2
8:40 Tele Photo
9:47 Low light Photo, Main Lens
10:44 Low light Video, Main Lens
Thank you 🙏
Thanks
Northrup always pushes for this "Android Camera" thing and am definitely on their side, I hope your predictions about Sony's next move by the Xperia "experiment" is true.
It’s not android or IOS, Sony has real optical zoom and real colors. iPhone colors are fake and processed. It’s like eating processed food daily lol. I’ve owned Sony 1 IV and ordered the V now. It’s a video makers future
@@MR-AK you probably haven't watched their last video about Sony huh?
Nokia pureview was also going to be great.
You are the supreme hypocrites and marketing like reviews ever! How to say about Sony is bad when you have only a probe?! And how to say about Sony when you s*ck Cook's crap?! Shame!
@@MR-AK Sony 1 IV is a bit crappy
I really like what Sony does with it's high end phones. The range of pro tools they offer can't be beat. And Apple really need to sort out the over-sharpening and colour science.
also, all the shadows are blue in my iphone, i always have to manually edit the photos and dial the warmth to 30-60, and so many peoples just post with that wrong white balance, usually cold, so cold images and yet somehow the faces are orange...., and they don't even realize, it has become a norm
I can't stand Apples photos. I think their colour science sucks.
@@Sabundy probably started about the time they went to Sony sensors!
@@hautehussey they're been using Sony sensors probably since before you were born, so no, it's not the sensors fault
@@angeljaimes9703 uh, no.
I got my Xperia 1 V a month ago or so from adorama as well. Best phone I've ever had. Speakers, screen resolution, and the camera and video are awesome to play with. Best phone by far. Threw my S23 ultra in the drawer
Thanks!
The weak point with Sony smartphones has unfortunately always been the short two year update period.
To be more accurate it was an Android thing. Now big manufacturers like Samsung are upping their game for software support with their latest offerings. Sony has to follow up with that because the price has to be reflected in everything. We are talking about the most expensive of all the offerings.
Android updates are in most cases useless. I have a phone with android 7 which is working perfectly today, without glitches. The most important updates are those made by OEMs that improves the phone's performance on different capabilities (camera, system, battery etc).
@@alxdava2004 Yes, all software developers working on Android updates are idiots wasting their time and you know better.
@@alxdava2004 Well Alex some apps dont work anymore with android 7, that's another reason why i switched my Xperia Z5 compact (Android 7) to get a Xperia X compact (android 8).
For example i had to withtdraw an order from an amazon locker, the amazon app is supposed to connect to the locker via bluetooth....seems it needs android 8 and above to do that...
This is absolutely unacceptable damn
I had such high hopes when I saw you guys were reviewing this phone. I was expecting to see you work the photographer angle a lot harder.
I am VERY interested in seeing how well the DNGs from the 1 V respond to torture in Lightroom. How much headroom is there in highlights and shadows, including if you expose for the phone's strengths? How well do the colours respond to curves manipulation? Do any of the colours clip? etc etc etc
This device, with all the manual controls it offers, is clearly meant for this kind of enthusiast/pro workflows.
All you guys did was just pixel peep!!
Also, in what universe were the vlog test skin tones of the Sony better than the iPhone's?
The SD card option makes my old desktop relevant again and it won't need an expensive hardware upgrade i had been planning.
Great phone and will be my next, when it is released late July in Australia.
Also now plan to buy a decent set of wired headphones thanks to Sony.... earbuds and bluetooth 5.0 just don't cut it for me.
Is it going to be sold in Australia? I thought Sony did not sell them in Australia anymore
I've been a Samsung user for as long as I can remember. Currently have a Note 20 Ultra. I won't use a phone that doesn't have an SD card slot. As Samsung has decided to be the Apple "B" Team, it looks like I'm moving to Sony.
@@SabundyYou can still but retailers still offer them (eBay, amazon, kogan etc)
Only the Audio jack and micro sd card slot is all ready a destroyer of the iPhone.
If you use the best settings for the lowlight video situation I believe it will be better then the iPhone.
iPhone no micro sd card slot a very important thing for creators.
Iphone no audio jack a very important thing for creators,
iPhone no special button to shoot and focus on objects,Sony all having it.
For me I’m waiting for the successor of the xperia pro i mk2 there are rumors sony is planning to use dual one inch sensors.
Barbary,
I agreed with you. In addition, the Sony camera Menu (user interface) is also better than those confusing smart phones camera menu.
For camera/video users, Sony is a winner here.
But if people concerned too much about quality and details of video or pictures... Get themselves an APSC or FF camera. You just can't have everything in one piece.
That's why I'm owning a Samsung Note20ultra and a Sony A74 with 35mnGM.
Great video. I'm shocked to see how great the iPhone 14 Pro handles low light video. I prefer optical bokeh that the 1V creates.
I like this review as they have a low light test but do not use it as reference. Too many reviews turn the lights off and compare cameras just based on night vision. So many of us will never shoot photos or video under candle light. That said the Iphone has a really good balance for the average user but If ATT had the Sony My pre order would be in already. Gonna have to wait for the inevitable price cuts and snag unlocked version then.
Yeah, that was a huge difference. The iPhone actually looks very good in low light video whereas the Sony looks like a crappy old camera. I prefer the iPhone cameras generally but refuse to switch to the Apple ecosystem. I like every other feature of the Sony Xperia 1 V so I'm going to go with it. Hopefully some updates will make their cameras better.
I compared the Xperia Pro I with the new Xperia 1 V. The Pro I was clearly a lot stronger for the wide and zoom lens. I think with more updates, the 1 V camera will get better (that's what I've noticed with the Pro I and the Xperia 1 ii).
If they made an Exmor T 1” sensor, that would be a game changer.
Heard that the next Pro-i is coming with 2 1" sensors. Just can't wait to see it
Technically apparently there will be a Pro I Ii with 2 exmor T 1 inch sensor
@@RedstoneinventeArmoredGuy guess it's around the horizon
Bcz in pro -1 sony uses sony imx 989 1 inch sensor
Is 1V still hv this issues?
Record a video a few minutes n the video app forcedto stop? Mine 1ii have that issue
Appreciate the video. It’s Mark 1 five not “V”. I know you guys do mostly pics but for video makers Sony is the real deal. It has real optical zoom and true colors unlike an iPhone.
No, it is Xperia 1 Mark 5
@@Ken-vl4wk the point is, it’s a 5 not a V. SMH
It is xperia 1 V. Read as xperia 1 mark 5 (as per sony) "1" is the model and "V" is the generation. "V" in roman numerals is 5.
true colors?!?!?! - looooooooooool - so Chelsea and Tony are naturally orange?
@@doctormarazanvose4373 that’s color grading. If you know anything about color palette and white balance you wouldve know. Smh
11:25 APPLES AND ORANGES SITUATION
WAIT WHAT LOLLZ 😂😂😂😂
This was such a calm and enjoyable video to watch. Thank you.
You would like FroknowsPhoto ASMR video 😁
I gasped when I saw that dead pixel on my oled in the low-light test section. Glad that's yours, not mine :)
4:31 What`s wrong with your face skin tone on Sony shot? It`s Sony`s natural colors? 7:58 And why overexposed backround means better?
why you compared the front camera of Iphone with rear camera of sony?
Some very good evolutions that I was waiting for since a decade, Sony seems to finally understand what year we are. They should go further and get rid of the face cam and integrate a small built in backscreen.
Bad idea, I hope they put back face unlock
Its my first time passing by this channel! its amazing what u do guys. You've got the knowledge, Good luck!
Thank you guys for the review. Needed to hear this kind of review from professional photographers
Besides the phone review, I love the way you two present 😃. It's so natural and calm, with no exaggeration, and the filming is amazing as well. You've got a new follower here 😅. Keep it up
5:20 the Sony looks way oversaturated (and/or the iPhone overexposed) in the Vlogging comparison, but the exact opposite is observed at 8:38 for the Portrait mode. Does this happen consistently (i.e., is it a video vs stills thing)??
It is not oversaturated in sony vlog but he just change the shutter speed rule which darkened the video a little bit to stop from overexposed and the iPhone cannot do that in the video so it is overexposed
Probably accidentally left it at VV (vivid) preset
Among all of the plusses, the biggest advantage of the Xperia is that it has Android
How could sony do that worse in the low light video? It's impossible for me to believe, i assume something must went wrong in the sony, like it have cropped heavily in active stabilization or 4k@120fps mode. Or it had recorded in 48mp mode instead of binned 12mp, or something is wrong within this unit.
Probably used Photo Pro (not great for videos) with wide dynamic range turned on (which shoots at 120 FPS). Video Pro will result in much better footage as it unlocks longer shutter speed, higher ISO and better noise reduction algorithm.
Apple use as default 4K@60 with frame stacking.
Sony does not.
Definitely performs much better in low light than in their tests. Not sure what settings they used.
iPhone wins 1 or 2 results - iphone fanboys, I told you iPhone is the greatest camera on earth. It doesn't matter if Sony wins 99% of the time. That 1% is more important.
Thank you! Great video, but can we see Sony Xperia 1 V vs Galaxy s23 ultra?
Did anyone else see the orange skin tones from the Sony and think "Oompa Loompas"?
hi guys
don't shoot the messenger, please 😅
9:15 in low light I noticed your camera is filming with having few dead pixel
id like to know the video settings for that last test 👀👀
Will that screen work on the back of the 14 pro max? Surly it would?
Can that Sony external screen be rigged up to work with the iPhone too?
No. Not even all sony phones can use.
Only pro-i, 1iv, 5iv , 1v can use.
1iii cannot
I appreciate how you two are still in the game
iPhone 14PM user here. There will be no comparison between the two. Sony make there own sensors, lens and camera software. I love my iPhone, but the Sony is going to be much better for photography.
Much better than MKNHD review phone 😂
Who's MKNHD?
What external screen was that you used with the sony?
The Sony makes you look like you rubbed Cheetos all over your face. - Chester Cheetah approves.
5:05 Why does both your skins color look like oranges, is this default Sony settings?
Record video via a cable?? We need a video on this feature! Will it use the connected camera as a camera in apps like facebook live, instagram and TikTok?
You can stream, yes, so long as the RTMP protocol is supported.
@@SupremelyBX Thanks, but the connected camera showing up as a native camera in app is what I’m looking for. How the Yolobox instream does it.
@@JeffSpeers There is a specific app for the external screen function. You cannot use this function in third party apps.
I've been wondering when a phone was going to release a camera with shutter control. I wanna take long exposures on my phone at some point!
since xperia 1 mk II you have that option , it can be set to bulb if you want so too
@@thelensguy6050 my xperia 5 mark 1 has that option too.
and my samsung before Xperia 1 too...like the Galaxy S9 with dual aperture
@@JoeGillian0 yes, but i think only 30 seconds max, which is enough for some astro, however, i remember, they do capture like big stars but that's it :( still good, i had one photo with the phone with the tent having the inside lamp on, and the mountain on the back and a few stars in the sky, that was a pretty photo i will never forget, taken with a huawei p9 leica dual :) and i do remember the s7 edge had this option too, up to 15 seconds max i think
@@thelensguy6050 it s also 30s max on Xperia 1 IV (to shoot at very dark night or use a ND filter) but Samsung has now added astrophotography mode (I have not tested since I live in a city)
I don't understand how Tony can take the Xperia for 1 day and get drastically different results than every other reviewer out there. There is absolutely no chance the iphone can produce a better night shot than the Sony at double the light hitting the sensor. Its like they didn't want to shame Apple too hard, so they can still get sponsorships I dunno
The Sony needs a few adjustments to get the best results. Way better than the iPhone though.
Just came across your channel and wow well done good informatiin and wellcut. All the best to you too from Switzerland
You can just swipe from right to left on iphone to launch the camera, no need to hold the camera icon.
Hey, Chelsea! Next time Tony reviews the Xperia 1 VI and slaps the vlogging monitor on its back to make fun of your iPhone's front camera, just put your Apple Watch on the back of your iPhone and boom! You have a video monitor, you can use the main camera AND you don't need a cable.
Just got my Xperia 1 V and updated to android 14! Could not be more happier and certainly glad I did not get a Samsung or an Apple. Focus Peaking is really handy and as for S-Cinetone=wow!
Thank you Tony / Chelsea for the review. This is such a fun informative review..
"He's still trying to figure out his camera."
"The Sony is made for professional content creators and gives me a lot of options."
LOL It is a joy to watch you two interacting and having - obviously - a blast doing it.
Marriage and relationships aren't easy - but, you make it look like it is.
Excellent review. I, personally, can't stand Apple or anything Apple so will never even consider an iPhone. The Xperia, I find very interesting but - if I am serious about shooting something I would use a real camera because, let's face it, though the phone cameras are admittedly extremely good; fact is if you want true quality you have to bite the bullet and use a real camera.
adding; real analog camera.
@@Ortopedija1989 I, myself, am not into analog - if you mean film cameras - anymore. I realize there are results they can yield that digital can't.
But, it gets to the point where there's only so much time and with the adroit use of Photoshop etc. I find there's virtually no "look" I can't achieve.
It is, of course, a refined artistic distinction I would imagine you are referring to. No?
Not everyone can take their larger camera everywhere with them. I would prefer that the next best thing accessible to me, in essence, my phone, would be as close an experience as possible to my camera in situations like that.
@@LoganSLRLockwood my 35mm OM10 is just suitable and what i need for traveling and shooting, but for real project i use my RB67 which force me to visit fitness 🙂. And also use iphone8 if my wife wants me to shoot her😜.
@@LoganSLRLockwood I agree. I don't think one need spend $1,300.00 though to achieve superior results. If one had, for instance, the Google Pixel Pro 7 and was well versed in Photoshop / Lightroom etc. there is little one could not achieve - to a certain degree.
And for all the rest - there are real cameras to press into service that are up to the task at hand - instead of second best! Lol
in low light you have to film in hdr to get good results
What's the model of the little monitor? Does it come with the magnetic mount?
One thought that I have had for a while now is that Sony's phone cameras are more balanced to the oriental market, and mainly Japan. I have noticed that Japan in particular tends to like color accuracy. I think that tends to also be the case throughout Hong Kong and S. Korea, but it is probably strongest in Japan. Oddly, the Samsung look seems to me about as highly processed as Apple, but differently. The Sony look can be very subtle. I remember an ad for a Japanese product that pointed out that Japan was a major center for graded pearls. Was that a Fujifilm ad? I'm not sure. But yeah, subtlety, accuracy -- I tend to see these in Japanese photography. When I look at the Sony phones (like my Xperia 10 iii), these are what I find. I wonder what I would see if I looked at other Japanese phones? There are phones in Japan that we do not see in North America. I wonder if they are closer to Sony's in some ways?
are you kidding me? - did you not see those 2 orange people in the Sony video?
Been waiting for this!!!
Xperia 1V and I phone 14 pro literally have the same camera specs on the wide angle 24mm main camera lens which is 48MP. Probably compare the lens modes of each phone to get a close comparison? Ultra wide vs ultra wide, telephoto vs telephoto, and 24mm vs 24mm. i Phone 14 pro max's ultra wide is also 12MP but Sony Xpreia 1V's 24mm is also 48MP similar to the i phone.
When it comes to the macro capability, both have the same 20cm minimum focus distance by using the 24mm lens so technically they have the same or similar macro capabilty. The sony camera has better telephoto than the iphone but the iphone has slightly wider focal length with the ultra wide.
All in all in my opinion if we compared each lens respectively on their own specific focal lengths, xperia would hands down be better. Thanks for the review.
Does it overheat?
9:17 There are seven dead pixels on your A7S III. What happened? One on the top right and the rest on the left of the sensor
The Xperia’s are wonderful for consuming content. Watching 4K movies and listening to Hi Res audio are sublime experiences on a smartphone.
On a toilet at that!
@@Kobrar44 😂
love the video great video always
Which camera you are using for video shoot
Sony a7S III
s-cinetone Tony, you missed it in the vlog section, that was going to be so much more better for the sony :)) i wondered why so orange on sony, well, you used the standard sdr
Does it overheat as much as the Xperia Pro-1 because mine overheats like crazy during 4K video shoots and it has to shut down or pause to cool down. This is one thing I hate about the Sony Xperia Pro-1. Other than that, it takes great videos and pictures.
Dramatically improved
A lot of reviewers have remarked on that Sony has really fixed the overheating issue. It is actually a general problem for phones using the last generation of Qualcomm chips so Qualcomm has improved power management dramatically on the new chip used, which carries over into Sony's new line of phones this year. I am sure Sony has made some tweaks as well to ensure this is improved significantly since they really got hammered on this issue in the reviews last year on the Xperia 1 IV.
Xperia 1 V still overheats while.shooting but much much less than the previous models...so you should be fine this year
you forgot to blame samsung for that, samsung desing the 888 and 888 gen 1 chips. blame THEM for the over heating eeven samsungs ownn 22 ultra had the same issue
@@theSFCchannel and it s also sony's fault as well .. because the software is not optimized and Xperia has bad cooling
“Selfie cameras on all phones are garbage” finally someone understands 😅
great video, thanks
Sony is the only company still making flagships with headphone jacks and sd cards... truly the only company catering to people who truly use their phones. Everyone else is like "nah you use it the way we tell you to. And please buy pointless accessories."
I remember when Apple ditched the 3.5mm jack and introduced the bluetooth earbuds for £120 extra on top of the ridculous price of the phone - and STILL idiots wouldn't ditch Apple. It's like they cast a magic spell.
#1:37 Please explain to me, Why is it good that a phone focus when you halfpress the shutter button? Is not most smart phone cameras focusing constantly without the need of pressing a button?
You can set it to AFS which allows you to lock the focus with a half press
I like how these 2 introducing the phones compared to others who talk in exaggerating voice, overexcited, cocky etc kinda tone...
No user-friendly Update Policy, no success. It's that simple
Pretty good comparison. But I think the best thing for Sony would be to add also the photo / video form the camera you are filming the video with, to show how wrong the Apple or Samsung are in oversharpening and other tricks they are doing.
Edit: It's showing anyway, and you did a great job of pointing this out.
REALLY AMAZING AND INTERESTING VIDEO AS WELL AS INFORMATIVE
Is this challeng is for iPhone face camera vs Sony main camera?
what about when editing the raw files though do you have more data and freedom with the sony files?
Jeepers, screen wipes for phones and hand cream for Tony. Chelsea, you're perfect.
6:35 that’s not more details on the iPhone, that’s word processing, basically adding details that do not exist (in this case the letters it has detected) using ML algorithms “Deep fusion”, it fails in certain scenarios (finer details) like in the back the wood lines on the house are better and naturally represented by the Sony.
Why the 48mp mode on iPhone vs the 12mp on Xperia for stills? You could have put the iPhone in its default 12mp mode
consider that you are running PRE RELEASE software on the Sony-imagine how much better it will be when you have the final version?
They didn't warn us about anything not being ready to review, so I think you can expect consistent results. Often they will tell us that some features aren't complete, but that wasn't the case.
@@TonyAndChelsea Yes it's a pre release software as the final version will come out next month.
They keep saying that Sony is built to do something different but let's be honest just because something aspires to be something doesnt mean it's different because of it's aspirations
What camera were they using on the dock by the water, that was amazing for video!! Anyone know??
Can you record external audio in main video app or you need to use open camera app. I have Motorola mobile and I can only record with external microphone using open camera app that doesn't work with all my mobile lenses and resolutions.
On the Sony yeah you can do this. You can even set the sensitivity of the mic in VideoPro
You have microphone controls within video pro and cine pro.
Also wind filter function.
Fun fact, the low light image combined thing that all phones use these days was created by a Sony engineer who works at Sony PlayStation on videogames. :)
holy crap the difference in the low light video was shocking, especially with Sony's "new" sensor.
Both are Sony sensors
I think they may have went wrong somewhere, either with the app or settings. Because in other reviews Sonys low light modes are incredible on the Mark V. Ollie Nilsson and Kohki Yamaguchi's videos really showcase what this device is capable of!
Isn't the main camera on the Sony the only one with the new DL sensor?
Yes, only the 24mm has new tech
Fun review/comparison. As a photography enthusiast, my main selection criteria for a smartphone is for it to take the best photos in the market at the time of purchase. I am not convinced the Sony does that, at least not better than the P60 Pro, but I'll wait for DXOMARK to have their say.
DxOMark is a consultation company. They sell advices and test kits. Product that had high score in DxOMark are those that bought the test kit and tune their product specifically to get high score in DxOMark. None of them were tuned for real life application.
None beats Sony. None.
there will be other colours?
i wan to buy Platinum Silver
if there will be tell me please
Thanks for comparing!
for me its not competing with iphone, but my note 20 ultra. I wish they'd put a stylus in the sony, and I'd buy it right now. You could take quality photos and edit with pressure sensitivity all in the same compact form factor of a phone. Though I must say it made your skin look quite orange in that early footage.
The very last bit about the low light performance in video determined the winner for me. If Sony could be on par with the iphone here, it would be a no-brainer.
Adorama doesn't ship to India... 😢
Damn Sony is getting there 👍👍
Maybe Sony could release an update allowing the full resolution of the main sensor for it's RAWs.
And I want to make two criticism of the Xperia because it appears Sony is finally listening!
For years I complained to reviewers of the past models that they should test the "Pro" modes. Finally this time finally everyone is doing that, but I was hurt by the monkey paw. With the V Sony finally started doing a bit of "computational photography", but it only shows on Basic/Auto mode. The Dynamic Range is that in the Pro/Manual modes seems very limited is actually very good, even exposing the lights correctly during the night, but only in Basic/Auto mode.
Couldn't Sony keep this processing when using manual controls too?
The other things is... personally, I don't think that variable zoom camera is doing much. The range is too limited and the less very blurry with low contrast. I don't think is work the cost, not at this quality.
Apart for that, it's perfect!
And I think that despite the bad result in night video seems in Tony and Chelsea test, you can get dramatically better results adjusting the shutter speed correctly.
A7s3 is 48MP quadbayer , sony blocks this option.
Obviously xperia will never have as well.
I personally don't like these super-tall aspect ratio because the user interface is generally poorly designed in landscape mode. It takes up far too much space and the content is limited to a thin strip. Examples: browsing the web, using the quick menu or even the keyboard. I'm not saying that the phone is terrible, but the interface really needs to be improved for these screen formats.
They are not meant to be used in landscape on this phone for sure.
Why are you using any smartphone in landscape mode for browsing the Internet?
Sony is soo underrated
i was brought here because been searching for Sony 1V. great content suited for photographer curiosity, but i need to know this. starting from 4:00 timestamp, what camera is used to film that ??? awesome outdoor color and autofocus !!!
SONY ❤️ 🇯🇵 👍 🥇 🏆 👑
You Can also take pictures of the moon with both yes the Sony phone would be able to zoom in farther, but if you bring the exposure down with the iPhone after zooming in all the way, you tap on the moon and then bring the brightness all the way down or at least as close to the bottom as you want, you can get a good moon shot same with the Sony phone except I don’t think you can move the exposure down. Maybe you can but either way both phones are great for moon shots also, has anyone ever noticed that if you Flip the pictures of the moon after taking them and then turn the picture two times or so you get the same craters that are on the Earth globe, and it looks identical like a mirror, and all of the same areas that the Earth has in the green and blue globe part of the earth. You also get on the moon if you do this it’s an exact replica
Swiping left to open the iPhone camera from the lock screen is so hard. I understand.
An iPhone is also not a benchmark for the best smartphone cameras. So it's not a big deal that Sony is significantly better here than the IPhone 14 pro. The currently best camera smartphone is the Huawei P60 pro. That would be much more interesting as a comparison.
Huawei isn’t allowed in the USA market, though!
Interesting video! I found myself looking more at the footage from the camera that was filming most of the video instead of the iPhone or Sony. On a personal level I think it is like trying split atoms comparing those two photos. People who get the Sony I believe know what they want, period. AS far as the iPhone I believe many people eyes are trained for that so they like that picture. Personally I take both phones since both are wonderful but when I return to my senses probably the iPhone since the phone is good and I am in their ecosystem (like a happy jail where they keep taking my money since I keep giving it to them).
You video was pretty funny as well.
I noticed that too, so many people posting blue shadows from their iphone and orange faces that it became the norm, when i edited a photo i received from a friend, on spot, and dialed the warmth to +40 compensate that wrong white balance, dialed down the saturation, added more brilliance to cure orange face, and sent it back, the person was in shock, she never knew photos can look so good with her phone.... she said it looks like it was taken with a pro camera, well it would be great if they can make for this poor souls the adjustments automatically so they get better photos and its easy, they provide the editing tool with the phone, also for the video, its nuts! but people don't want additional work and spend time learning how to do it, so lazy, we are going to end-up like in the Wall-E movie
When you connected the Nikon to the Xperia for external monitoring/recording, could you use focus peaking and false color functions on the Xperia, or is that exclusive to alpha cameras?
Can you connect the Nikon to the Xperia for external monitoring/recording or use focus peaking and false color functions on the Xperia? Or is that exclusive to alpha cameras?
Can the Xperia be an external monitor for a Lumix s5 camera ?
Did I notice
On the studio
At the end of the video
When Chelsea turns her head and look towards Tony, the camera focussed on Tony's eyes perfectly and the other way around??