My iPhone Camera FAILED me!

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    Tony and Chelsea talk about their vacation and how they chose the WRONG cameras for travel, including their iPhone cameras. Hear about how and when the iphone fails as a camera and which cameras they would bring on a casual family trip.
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  • @TonyAndChelsea
    @TonyAndChelsea  8 месяцев назад

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  • @brandon___styles
    @brandon___styles 9 месяцев назад +7

    4:26
    iPhone camera settings can be saved to your preferences:
    -Settings
    -Camera
    -Preserve Settings

  • @conradjalali
    @conradjalali 9 месяцев назад +29

    I took my A7r4 to Italy this summer and didn't have any trouble. I think the key is not making yourself a target by bringing lots of gear. I traveled light, just bringing my 35mm lens and using my camera strap and no bag. I'm so glad I brought a real camera with a fast lens. It helped me capture things I would have otherwise missed.

    • @jimbolic0809
      @jimbolic0809 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes. I brought my Nikon Z7II with 24-120mm lens and had no problems in Italy.

    • @michaellee3903
      @michaellee3903 9 месяцев назад

      I came close to being robbed in Florence back in 2019 and I think the one single gear that made me stand out was my tripod. I carry around a RRS TV-24 which is a great tripod but at the same time it's rather large and bulky and it does indeed stand out. I'm not sure why Italy has such a problem with this but it is a real issue and in the future my plan is to bring my Z bodies instead. Both my Z6 and Z7 are small enough to gather too much attention whereas my D810 and D850 with their respective lenses really really does stand out.

    • @ramblr5900
      @ramblr5900 9 месяцев назад

      I have sony a7iv should I just bring the 24-70mm Kitless with me when I travel internationally?

    • @ramblr5900
      @ramblr5900 9 месяцев назад

      @@michaellee3903 what do you mean can you described the situation. Like run and snatch or something violent?

    • @zurgmuckerberg
      @zurgmuckerberg 8 месяцев назад +1

      Italy is more and more becoming like Haiti.

  • @philbrown5516
    @philbrown5516 9 месяцев назад +4

    This is the best technical and philosophical discussion on this subject I have ever seen! Thank you.

  • @yajhil8143
    @yajhil8143 9 месяцев назад +32

    When I went to Italy and met up with my Italian friend, he didn't even want me opening the trunk of the rental car to search for something in my suitcase because of theft. I was shocked honestly at how stern and paranoid he was about me showing even a whiff that I was there on vacation. I had to use my phone which sucks because we went to Rome, Pompeii and others places in Sicily. I own the R5 so better to be safe and paranoid than sorry I suppose. When the locals say beware, you listen or go in a big group.

    • @TomasRamoska
      @TomasRamoska 9 месяцев назад +9

      That is ridiculous. If you go to Eastern Europe like Poland, or Lithuania you have no such problems.
      To many illegal immigrants in Italy.

    • @yajhil8143
      @yajhil8143 9 месяцев назад +17

      @@TomasRamoska He never said anything about illegal immigrants. He said it was because of the mafia actually. Also, not trying to tell you how to live, but I really hope you are not stereotyping immigrants and throwing all the problems of a country on them. Maybe I am misunderstanding your intent with your comment.

    • @ColinRobertson_LLAP
      @ColinRobertson_LLAP 9 месяцев назад +8

      I've been robbed before... in a nice neighborhood in Los Angeles. And it was out of my car, that I neglected to lock. Theft sucks, but this is why it pays to have insurance. ESPECIALLY if you're a professional. But even after that miserable experience, I would absolutely bring my R5 to Italy for vacation photos. Actually, it'd probably be WORSE if my phone was stolen while I was traveling...

    • @yajhil8143
      @yajhil8143 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ColinRobertson_LLAP Yeah I need to look into insurance for my camera for sure. I mainly use it at my job so I never think about that till I have to travel outside of my bubble. My friend was just so adamant about hiding my suitcase, and anything that could be seen as valuable. He actually gave me a look as if he was yelling "Are you insane?!" because I wanted to open my suitcase in public. He was the one that told me to just to use my cellphone to take pictures. At that point we were in Naples which he said is horrible when it comes to theft. He reminded me once again in Sicily. I just had no idea it was that bad.

    • @bme7491
      @bme7491 9 месяцев назад +5

      Pickpockets are everywhere in Italy, and some of them are VERY good at their craft.

  • @chuckgt7715
    @chuckgt7715 9 месяцев назад +12

    Bring back the photo review show. I miss that era of Chelsea and Tony

  • @Costinvlad
    @Costinvlad 9 месяцев назад +15

    Most cities in Europe are safe and you will see a lot of ppl with expensive cameras ! Just take your camera and enjoy it at full potential , this is what was built for , it will be obsolete in 5-10 years anyway ! I had the same problem before going to Italty this summer and after a full week in Rome walking and taking the public transportation everywhere I can tell you " TAKE YOUR CAMERA" , put the camera bag in front of you in crowded places and you will be more than fine ! This is the main purpose of a CAMERA shooting, do not keep it locked in closet !

    • @Abakaschi
      @Abakaschi 9 месяцев назад +1

      I agree (I'm from Germany). Europe is generally safe with a few risky spots. But good luck trying this strategy in Brazil.
      I was robbed countless times over the past 10 years. I stopped taking any equipment on the streets (no watch, no fancy clothes either). My camera only comes out on day trips and in group settings etc.

    • @Costinvlad
      @Costinvlad 9 месяцев назад

      @@Abakaschi never been to Brasil so i dont know but i take your word on that 👍

    • @bretthickman
      @bretthickman 8 месяцев назад

      Physics won't ever be obsolete, and neither will large sensors and big glass.

    • @Costinvlad
      @Costinvlad 8 месяцев назад

      @@bretthickman I agree with you on physics but …. I would not take on a trip my Sony A100 or 5d Mk 1 nowadays … they are collecting dust for at least 10 years in my “hall of fame” closet ! They still work but the card used in them, the focus system , the MP count … you get my point …there are just so much better alternatives to use right now !

  • @RUFFSTUFFMEDIA
    @RUFFSTUFFMEDIA 9 месяцев назад +4

    Great and useful discussion. You guys never disappoint!
    I often get frustrated with having to use my phone in places where I can't bring a camera (like indoor sporting events). I need to get some media passes... :)

  • @paulhornbogen980
    @paulhornbogen980 9 месяцев назад +1

    T and C. You always have great content. Getting back into photography after a long hiatus. Keep up the good work.

  • @jackconboy3013
    @jackconboy3013 9 месяцев назад +7

    On a recent trip I took an inexpensive Canon RP and an old EF 28-200. I generally shoot with a Canon R5, which I find too heavy and big to lug while traveling,and too expensive to risk. In the past my travel camera was an APSC, but the RP is lighter, smaller and it is full frame. Theft or damage of the RP is more tolerable compared to the R5. The RP with a single lens was also less of an annoyance for my travel companions. So far this seems a reasonable choice. The RP was bigger and heavier than my iPhone 14 Pro Max, but it got much better results. Thanks for a very practical discussion.

    • @kingronald1
      @kingronald1 9 месяцев назад

      Ok, good. I’ve been waiting for someone to bring this up. I have a canon rp, bought it because of the compact full frame potential it has for street. And would constantly use it if it wasn’t for the…..very annoying loud shutter sound it makes ! Not conducive to candid street photography at all. Have you had this problem? I mean, I’ve contacted canon about this and there is almost nothing to do to make it silent. Except put it on automatic, thereby limiting its function. Or bracketing, which takes several photos. Not practical !

  • @brenolad
    @brenolad 9 месяцев назад +15

    I loe how practical and candidly you speak about camera tech, as a photographer! (And not as just another tech channel.) You speak so personally and openly about dilemmas and ideas, reasons for doing XYZ etc.. This is why I trust your opinions over others.

  • @johnpollock6996
    @johnpollock6996 9 месяцев назад +2

    I completely agree with your disdain of phone cameras. My most frequent and practical use for my phone camera is when I do the shopping and I need more info than just a list, so I shoot a label of anything in the pantry when I need that info. Thanks for the great video.

  • @tc7486
    @tc7486 9 месяцев назад

    Always informative!

  • @drtod
    @drtod 9 месяцев назад +4

    Your experience is exactly why the OMDS OM-5 with 12-45mm F4 (24-80mm FF) is a seller for travel. Simply look past opinions that MFT is "dead": the IBM Mainframe has been "dying" for the past 30 years, and today in 2023 the IBM Mainframe is still strong. MFT is still here in 2023 with new products solving the issues outlined in your video at the size and weight one desires for travel.

  • @simpletraveltech
    @simpletraveltech 9 месяцев назад

    You guys are the sweetest and the best mom and dad camera nerds possible right now! :D

  • @ryanfitzsimons547
    @ryanfitzsimons547 9 месяцев назад +5

    Pretty sure the IPhone raw is still a stacked multi image file

    • @ChrisClayton
      @ChrisClayton 9 месяцев назад +2

      It is. And you don’t have to select it every time. Theres a setting to remember the format. The premise of this entire video is incorrect.

    • @Techno_Rama
      @Techno_Rama 9 месяцев назад

      @@ChrisClayton Maybe the 48MP HEIF that can now be used(which I assume are stacked multi image too) would have helped some of their complaints

  • @LadyTracyOfTheDisk
    @LadyTracyOfTheDisk 9 месяцев назад +18

    Thanks, both of you, for this video, and special thanks to Chelsea for your appreciation of the viewfinder. I feel that the lack of a viewfinder is a deal-breaker when I'm shopping for a new camera. I too like that feeling of blocking everything else out. I also like the added stability of being able to brace the camera against my body.

  • @455LT1
    @455LT1 9 месяцев назад +11

    I took my camera gear to Brazil and ended up shooting all the beautiful scenery with my phone in fear that my gear would get stolen. Sucks to travel so far and be stuck with a phone for image capture so I understand your pain.

    • @Davesaintgold
      @Davesaintgold 9 месяцев назад

      not a really good country to take like example. You're had just lucky

    • @mikldude9376
      @mikldude9376 9 месяцев назад

      Perhaps this is where a good travel camera might be a good happy medium , plenty of the decent less expensive travel cameras have lenses that actually telescope and have most of the usual settings a proper serious camera has way better than a crappy smart phone.

  • @mikegelongfield
    @mikegelongfield 9 месяцев назад +6

    I think you make some really good points and confirm my view that the smartphones are still way off the quality that a photographer can achieve with a camera. I do have to leap to the defence of Italy however. I have been there many times on vacation over the years and I have never even contemplated leaving my cameras at home. I have never been robbed either.

  • @mike969696
    @mike969696 9 месяцев назад +19

    There's a format called Micro 4/3 which is extremely portable and unobtrusive if you choose carefully. I can cover almost anything with a tiny Laowa 7.5mm ultrawide, a Lumix 20/1.7 pancake lens, and a tiny Olympus 45/1.8 prime which I use on a tiny camera. If I want to shoot longer there are very small 35-100 and 45-150 zooms. The dilemma is reduced in size along with the equipment.

    • @realmadera
      @realmadera 9 месяцев назад +1

      Tony said M43 was dead.

    • @DestinyTerraria
      @DestinyTerraria 9 месяцев назад

      Olympus is basically dead in the water, the Olympus corporation sold off the camera division to japanese corporation JIP after a massive scandal uncovered decades of covered up losses. There will never be another camera made with the Olympus name, and along with it, Micro 4/3 will likely follow the same fate.
      Which is a shame, because I started shooting with an Olympus e-520(?) from 2008 and it definitely has it's own style. My 300-600mm compact 4/3 lens is also now pretty much junk.

    • @mike969696
      @mike969696 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@DestinyTerraria Yes! And yet, weirdly, my Olympus cameras continue to work perfectly! Isn't it uncanny?!

    • @DestinyTerraria
      @DestinyTerraria 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@mike969696 Whether you find it canny that quality cameras continue to work as advertised, that's up to you. The point is that replacement OEM parts and new cameras and lenses will not be made. Are you willing to continue buying existing products from a company that is discontinuing support and exiting the market?

  • @sgpork
    @sgpork 9 месяцев назад +5

    Italy is not safe to bring camera? What?.. no its ok i guess.. i brought 2 a7 cameras and afew gm lenses. Out in the street whole day. Nothing happen to me. Nobody came to me. (Of course i avoid eye contact and back alley at night). During the trip ive see many using their camera too and nobody got approach by theif or anything. Its ok. Just becareful and aware of your surrounding and dont do silly thing/choice.

  • @brucealan4725
    @brucealan4725 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video.

  • @JoeAnshien
    @JoeAnshien 9 месяцев назад +3

    You are so right with the GPS tagging. I found the best combo for me on vacation. I now have a Sony RX10 IV and my S22. I have a small leather sling bag with the camera water bottle and anything else I need with my phone in my pocket. I use a USB hub to copy the days photos to another SD card for backup using the S22. As an additional benefit I can use the hub with HDMI to look at photos or watch movies on the hotel TV. No laptop needed.

  • @tonymurphy9112
    @tonymurphy9112 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for letting me know about the raw processing of the iphone, I wasn't aware of the limitations 👍🏻🙏 Love your podcast

  • @ContraGrain
    @ContraGrain 9 месяцев назад +10

    Honestly, this is why I have travel cameras, and they aren't expensive ones either. Just get something that is maybe 1 or 2 gens back from any brand really, for me it's the Fuji X-E3. Just use that to fill that space.

    • @catlike1
      @catlike1 9 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly. This is where cropped sensor APSC or Micro 4/3s cameras shine. And a used camera is the way to go. I take my Fuji XT20 and the kit 18-55 level with me when I travel.

    • @ContraGrain
      @ContraGrain 9 месяцев назад

      @@catlike1 always loved the XTs they probably make amazing travel kit! I used to use a M4/3 as my travel kit it’s actually my recording kit now, the stabilization in body is amazing on M4/3

  • @nicolasmorgan9418
    @nicolasmorgan9418 9 месяцев назад +7

    It seems like for a lot of the issues mentioned a good compromise would be to use an apsc or a m43 set up. You wouldn't have all the benefits of full frame but the gear would be easier to carry and its less expensive if something does happen to it

    • @realmadera
      @realmadera 9 месяцев назад

      Tony started the M43 is dead movement 4 years ago.

    • @nicolasmorgan9418
      @nicolasmorgan9418 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@realmadera and I think a lot of the issues in this video shows why a lot of people still like them

  • @RCBOSS1969
    @RCBOSS1969 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you!

  • @mmarzett
    @mmarzett 9 месяцев назад

    First, I appreciate both of you guys so much for everything you do for the photography community. 2nd, It blows my mind that you guys were in Italy recently. I was in Veniuce at the end of August and had a really good time in spite of some REALLY rainy weather.

  • @bd7190
    @bd7190 9 месяцев назад

    Great video thanks. I hope we hear your comments about the iphone 15 pro soon.

  • @darrenambler9431
    @darrenambler9431 9 месяцев назад +42

    As someone who lives in London U.K. and regularly travels around Europe, I have had no issues at all. European cities mostly only have low-level crime (such as pickpockets) but if your sensible it’s not an issue.
    This year I’ve travelled to Italy, Hungary and Czechia and have always felt safe and comfortable carrying a camera - I would never leave home without one! I love my iPhone, but it doesn’t hold a candle to my Canon R7! 🙂

    • @delpinsky
      @delpinsky 9 месяцев назад +3

      I was in Venice in 2021 with my friend (I'm Italian), and I have to say pickpockets can be a real pain in the ass, but especially in bigger train and metro stations. Not too many people in that November period. I took with me my old Canon 450D camera, but not the whole package of lenses (too many things to carry). I have to say I took much more photos with my cameraphone eventually.

    • @holgerkrieg8213
      @holgerkrieg8213 9 месяцев назад +3

      Especially I was wondering from an American perspective. If you have ever been in San Francisco downtown recently, almost every place in Western Europe seems to be a safe area. But of course Europe has many no-go areas as well.

    • @darrenambler9431
      @darrenambler9431 9 месяцев назад +3

      I agree that you wouldn’t want to take loads of lenses just for the inconvenience of having to carry them around. I generally only take two - a wide angle 10-18mm for inside shots of cathedrals etc. and an 18-150mm for external shots (and of course I have my iPhone Pro-Max too!). You can get amazing shots on the iPhone, but where the camera excels are for those late evening sunset, twilight and nighttime landscapes/architecture shots (long exposure low light and I love a sun-star!). I do take a reference shot with the phone for GPS purposes, and I do wish cameras had GPS!
      Safety wise I think Europe / USA / world are no different - there are rough places and safe places. I felt safe with a camera in NYC, and in Dubai. Just research the location. I’m going to Egypt in a few weeks, and South America next year so researching what’s/where’s safe or not!

    • @jeejbeej
      @jeejbeej 9 месяцев назад

      There's safe and unsafe places everywhere, but Europe on average is definitely much safer compared to the US.

  • @Millzlane
    @Millzlane 9 месяцев назад +1

    Glad I found you guys. Now I kno to only use the 3 camera focal lengths and to not zoom into anything; to just move closer or further. Also to save my money and put the settings back to 12mp instead of the default 24mp they set so that I'll have to buy more icloud space. Thievery 🙄.

  • @marcomarcon5802
    @marcomarcon5802 9 месяцев назад +7

    I have used smartphones, in an addition to pro gear, for several jobs, and nobody ever noticed, not even the designers who in fact often preferred the smartphone files. Of course, there are things smartphones can't do well (sport, wildlife) and their ergonomics is terrible, you are 100% correct about that, which is why when I travel, I pack a RX100VII (I took some of my best pictures with that camera) but there is NO WAY I would lug a DSLR + lenses!

    • @UnconventionalReasoning
      @UnconventionalReasoning 9 месяцев назад

      We need to train clients to stop preferring the smartphone images.

    • @definingslawek4731
      @definingslawek4731 8 месяцев назад

      Why did they prefer the smartphone images?

    • @marcomarcon5802
      @marcomarcon5802 8 месяцев назад

      @@definingslawek4731 They thought they were more interesting images, they didn't know I took them with a smartphone

  • @lucas_92
    @lucas_92 9 месяцев назад +5

    These experiences make the Sony APSC cameras so appealing. Take one of them with a sigma 18-50mm lens and you’re covered in most situations. So easy to carry it around and get photos that won’t disappoint you.

    • @whereismylife
      @whereismylife 9 месяцев назад

      you mean a gx9 + pana-leica 12-60mm 2.8-4 right? fingers crossed a mark II follows the new g9 II release. would be the ultimate travel shooter w/ hybrid PDAF/CD.

    • @bubbles581
      @bubbles581 9 месяцев назад +1

      I agree! Even an old add NEX3 or a5000 or something still can do quite nice photos with a halfway decent lens and with much less financial risk than even losing a cell phone.

  • @storyofthings
    @storyofthings 9 месяцев назад

    Great video as always, by the way for suns and sunsets i always shoot DHR in Lightroom mobile, the merged exposures will give you all the control afterward with the resulting DNG to have a great looking sunset.

  • @zufarmul
    @zufarmul 9 месяцев назад +1

    100% agree, but would be great it you showed more examples. not too difficult to come up with

  • @hdwblade
    @hdwblade 9 месяцев назад +2

    You guys really should try that phone that has the 1" sensor and variable aperture. I think it's a Huawei phone, not positive. But I'd be interested in your thoughts on it in raw and otherwise. It goes from f1.4? To f4 (relative ofc) with 10 STOPS BETWEEN THEM ALL! I'd LOVE to see that video!!! I think it's the Mate 50 Pro but don't quote me!

  • @amirfatehi3425
    @amirfatehi3425 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks so much for bringing up the topic. But I think x100v does have a tilt screen and the focal length is 35 not 24

  • @dickbong7499
    @dickbong7499 9 месяцев назад +1

    You can change the camera settings to remember what format it used last

  • @Almarillion
    @Almarillion 9 месяцев назад +1

    I recommend using the extension lenses with the x100v. They both are easy to carry around. They turn my x100f from a street photography camera in to a travel camera.

  • @p.VAZ.
    @p.VAZ. 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you. Always enjoy hearing your perspective cuz its legit honesty of frustration of how we really feel about Apple. Also the wanting to carry your pro rigs even on vacation…. Its hella scary taking gear out now at days though. So rather enjoy the time where i’m going than being in constant stress.

  • @sabaruza321
    @sabaruza321 9 месяцев назад +2

    So glad I stumbled upon this video! I'm literally leaving for Italy in a week and was debating whether or not I should just use my phone for taking pictures or if I should take my Canon R6 Mark II (which I just bought), an EF 24-70 F2.8 II, and an RF 35mm 1.8. I was more worried about the size and weight and having to carry it all around while walking miles everyday.
    I think it ultimately came to asking myself, "Do I want my pictures to look different and have a sense of depth/feel to it, or will I be satisfied with the all too conmon "smartphone" look?"
    Grateful for T&C's insight and all of your comments! 🤓

  • @agimos_art
    @agimos_art 8 месяцев назад

    Sehr ehrlich und danke für die Worte 😊Chapeau 👋🏼

  • @stelorone
    @stelorone 9 месяцев назад

    I bought a Fujifilm X100V specifically for travel as I really don't like taking my main gear with me (Nikon D810, etc.). Used it last year in Europe and other trips and it works great! I couple that with my iPhone 13 Max and I am usually very well covered. I don't usually have a ton of issues with photos when I travel.

  • @robertwhitemoto
    @robertwhitemoto 9 месяцев назад +1

    Really like this channel T&C... very long time subscriber.

  • @tintin69rr
    @tintin69rr 9 месяцев назад

    Going on our 1st ever cruise in March and heading around the Caribbean and I’m in 2 minds as I’ll be going on a few catamaran trips and stuff which I still want to take the R6ii for landscape photography from off the boats but then I’ll be leaving the gear on the boat while I go snorkelling which the idea of leaving the gear is doing my nut in I do have my gear insured but still it’s a daunting thought of risk loosing it all

  • @scottgmaclean
    @scottgmaclean 9 месяцев назад +5

    I really relate to Chelsea’s comments about enjoying a moment through my photography. I’ve been watching you guys for years, you’ve helped my photography so much. I just wanted to say thanks and keep up the good work!

    • @UnconventionalReasoning
      @UnconventionalReasoning 9 месяцев назад

      When I'm taking pictures at a relative's wedding, people sometimes tell me to put the camera down and enjoy myself. They have trouble understanding that taking the pictures helps me immerse myself in the moments of the day.

  • @ianjohnstone1061
    @ianjohnstone1061 9 месяцев назад

    Hey Chels, When needing to shot overhead I use the "V"upside down overhead with the screen fully out using Touch Screen shooting then flip the photo in camera or leave as for post editing.. I'm sure u'd know this.. !! Cheers from AU🙃

  • @bobgerac
    @bobgerac 9 месяцев назад

    This is music to my ears!

  • @mem5922
    @mem5922 9 месяцев назад +12

    Chelsea, I am shocked you dont carry a Sony RX100 VII in your purse to avoid ALL the reasons you guys poo-pooed on the smartphone. I have felt the same way about the shortcomings of smartphone cameras since 2017. I only use my smartphone camera for simple 'necessity' shots but almost never for photos I care to appreciate later.

    • @leemarkowitz4709
      @leemarkowitz4709 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes! I use an RX10 IV for my all-purpose photography. It is a lot bigger and would make me standout more but I can appreciate the IQ you get from these Sony 1” sensor cameras with Zeiss lenses. Although there may be benefits, you don’t really need a larger sensor for most circumstances.

    • @boronk
      @boronk 9 месяцев назад

      This. I own a Panasonic zs200 for travel..

    • @dalejones146
      @dalejones146 9 месяцев назад

      @@leemarkowitz4709

    • @dalejones146
      @dalejones146 9 месяцев назад

      The RX10 is a much larger camera than the RX100 though and they use the same sensor.@@leemarkowitz4709

  • @Bokehmo
    @Bokehmo 9 месяцев назад +7

    I've been using my Pixel 6 to take raw images and editing them in post, and have actually been pleasantly surprised. They merge a lot of the stacked image data into the raw, so you have great dynamic range there. I'm curious if iphone does the same thing. Hell, I'd love to see a phone raw file comparison video to see which phone's raw files edit best in post.

    • @bingbong4848
      @bingbong4848 9 месяцев назад +3

      Remember T&C have daily access to the very best cameras available. So their reference point may be relative to that.

    • @henriklantzhedstrom6709
      @henriklantzhedstrom6709 9 месяцев назад +2

      There are a number of test on RUclips showing that iPhone 14 in raw is indistinguishable from good DSLRs in many situations. The pixel 6 is probably at least equal.

    • @leemarkowitz4709
      @leemarkowitz4709 9 месяцев назад

      Two of their biggest complaints were lack of telephoto reach and aperture control.

  • @praveen4ification
    @praveen4ification 9 месяцев назад

    Had same issue with my Iphone 14pro, specially night shot, so happy I had R6 mark II with 50mm f1.2

  • @SteveHartmanVideos
    @SteveHartmanVideos 9 месяцев назад

    I bring my Ricoh GRIII on trips to solve this issue with my iPhone. APS-C sensor in ultra compact. Only down side is not great for portraits or if you need to zoom in.

  • @Mike0193Azul
    @Mike0193Azul 9 месяцев назад +1

    Appreciate this video. Theft is horrific in many of these travel destinations. Have to be careful. You can set preserve settings in the settings menus to, for example, not have to choose raw every time. Though otherwise the camera settings are still super annoying to try to get to get to. Even turning on/off flash takes too long and is iffy. I wish it was always there, but you have to click a dropdown menu that is slow. And if you open the camera app from locked then you can’t freely go between photo and video settings. Thankfully 3rd party apps are good

  • @samhardy2038
    @samhardy2038 9 месяцев назад

    All well said.

  • @Topgunphoto
    @Topgunphoto 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great discussion Tony, have you two ever had issues going into NYC and getting skyline shots at night? That's one of my fears of heading dowm from NH and not really knowing the area at night. I have a friend that just brings their Nikon P1000 with them on vacations instead of their Nikon pro gear. He had stuff stolen at the Golden Gate Bridge when they stopped over from Hawaii

  • @DaM.1
    @DaM.1 9 месяцев назад +8

    Italy is definitely the place you want to bring a real camera 😅

  • @maxweinhold867
    @maxweinhold867 9 месяцев назад +1

    I can fully understand the struggle for shooting photos with a phone, when you are used to a camera. I just went to Sweden and took wonderful pictures with my D780 and when I went to Stockholm I only had my IPhone 12 and I actually got a picture that really comes close to a perfect picture. But it only works with a phone when it’s already an overcast sky and not too much direct sunlight

  • @alexhudsonq
    @alexhudsonq 9 месяцев назад +4

    Hope you had a lovely trip to Venice! I'm currently in Palma, Mallorca and the iphone stay's in my pocket. However the Canon G7x ii is capturing some great shot's and is playful enough for me to think about what kind of shot i want. Maybe a relatively inexpensive, small, light weight portable camera is the answer for long days abroad and pixel peepers alike? 😆

    • @Chris-NZ
      @Chris-NZ 9 месяцев назад +2

      With you 100%, I have the same pocketable Canon , not quite the Swiss Army knife my R5 is but hellish good for its price point and creams my phone every time and of course is actually has a built in flash that makes those phone ones look like toys. 😀

  • @Benjamin_Jehne
    @Benjamin_Jehne 9 месяцев назад +9

    Because a big full frame camera isn’t ideal, as a Smartphone isn’t good enough, I take a RX100VII with me. I also have the the GX5 MKII with it’s 24-120mm F1.8-2.8 and these both little cameras getting the job done in most situations.
    Especially the RX has such a nice, sharp lens. The 1“ is good enough and combined with LRs AI denoise, these little cameras are just perfect.
    I don’t have any fear to get a theft victim, as no one cares for these little cameras.
    So next time, maybe you should give them a try.

    • @ryandetert450
      @ryandetert450 9 месяцев назад +2

      RX100 is the GOAT. I even use it for sports when I’m too lazy to bring the full frame.

    • @henriklantzhedstrom6709
      @henriklantzhedstrom6709 9 месяцев назад +3

      I would bet IPhone 14 pro in raw outperforms RX100 in most situations.

    • @E6MND
      @E6MND 9 месяцев назад

      Why not take the real camera and use insurance/ be careful?

    • @Benjamin_Jehne
      @Benjamin_Jehne 9 месяцев назад

      @@henriklantzhedstrom6709 The iPhone has backed in denoise with hard sharpenig etc. the files from the RX are mostly real, with some lens correction.

    • @Benjamin_Jehne
      @Benjamin_Jehne 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@E6MND Of course, you can do it if you want to. I personally don't want to carry heavy gear , when I'm on vacations. Thats why I have gone for the 1" cameras for my private stuff. The RX100VII is very comparable with mFT in terms of max quality, as mFT has no ISO100.

  • @aarong311
    @aarong311 9 месяцев назад +2

    I thought that’s what proraw was for. You shoot raw but also get the computational editing applied. Also, there is a setting for the camera app to remember what you previously used. So if you shot raw, it will still be set to raw the next time you use the app.

    • @stevelitchfield
      @stevelitchfield 9 месяцев назад

      What he said. I’m afraid this is wrong in the podcast. Sorry.

  • @dj_laundry_list
    @dj_laundry_list 9 месяцев назад

    ~9:00 Only having three prime lenses and not being able to zoom meaningfully is a good reason to be creative with the scene and recompose using what you have. I've been enjoying my results when forced to use the 120mm equivalent FL

  • @possisvideos
    @possisvideos 9 месяцев назад

    yes, its to painful C said. you are right. I thougt to get the new 15pro, but I will save the money and keep my 8max, and go with my trusty Sony a1.❤

  • @NeilImmortal
    @NeilImmortal 9 месяцев назад

    RAW, levels the playing field :)

  • @robbie.rambles
    @robbie.rambles 9 месяцев назад +1

    It's funny...I just got back from Italy too, we could have run into each other in Florence or Venice! I wanted to pack light, so I just took a GX9 + 12-60 & 20mm f/1.7. All fit in a cross-body pack that I had slung around the front, so I wasn't too worried about theft. I used my iPhone 14 Pro Max for dinner pics and ultra-wide (in RAW). This combination worked as good as I could have hoped and I didn't feel too encumbered on the go.

  • @Snezhana_ph
    @Snezhana_ph 9 месяцев назад +6

    Tony&Chelsea thank you so much for this video, I am an old school photographer and it is important for me to experience the tactile sensations of the lens rings, the viewfinder and the shutter release, it is important for me to use a real camera and not the software contained in the iPhone, for me the camera in the iPhone is just a way to capture what needs to be written down on paper and nothing more, but when I want to be creative in photography, I take the camera and enjoy the pleasure of creating a photo and the iPhone pictures it really has nothing to do with that.

  • @icyjaam
    @icyjaam 9 месяцев назад

    I was really waiting for someone to make this video. It was for the best that you guys made it. I dont like the way my phone take s pictures, I have outgrown it and I need more control over my process, because no matter what you do, a phone photo will always looks like a phone photo even though you try putting expensive lenses on top of it.

  • @rphandler
    @rphandler 9 месяцев назад

    Think Tank Rotation 22 pack with camera in the belt compartment and both the waist belt and chest strap buckled. Your gear is safe. The belt pack can be rotated forward for immediate accessibility while walking. What's in mine? A Sony a7Rv (or my Riv) w/ either the Tamron 28-200 or the Sony 4/70-200 Macro. If it's the 70-200, then on a neck strap I'll have either my Fuji x100v or my other 61mp Sony w/ the 4/16-35 PZ G.

  • @dj_laundry_list
    @dj_laundry_list 9 месяцев назад +1

    "Marketing math"... I like it!

  • @DaneRThomas
    @DaneRThomas 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm an American living in Europe since 1998, and I've done travel photography in many countries, both in cities and out in the wildlands. While in cities, I usually hide my Canon R6 in a Peak Design 6L sling, as the bag does not look like my Lowa or other camera bags, and it is not big enough to peg me as a tourist carrying potentially valuable stuff. Also, no selfie stick, no trucker cap, no Hawaiian shirt, no t-shirt with a huge logo on it, no backpack with a big water bottle, and no big fancy tripod with garishly anodized parts that scream "steal me!" The whole idea is to blend in with the locals rather than sticking out.
    The PD 6L sling bag is large enough to carry the camera body with the RF 70-200 f/2.8L mounted, but that lens will attract more attention than I want in some cities, so I usually make do with the RF 24-105L or RF 100-400 (non-L). For additional security when shooting with my iPhone, I have it in a Peak Design Everyday Case with an Anchor Link that keeps my phone attached to one of their Cuff straps around my wrist.
    I'll be taking those items to the heart of Mafia-land (Naples and Sorrento) in a few weeks and again to Porto soon after that. Hoping that it goes well, as it has on every other trip over the past several years.
    PS: I did some bird photography last week in Stockholm with a borrowed, uninsured Canon R3 with their RF 1200 f/8 L lens. $25000 worth of perhaps the least discreet rig I have ever used while on a public walking path at a city park. About 10 of us were trying out ALL of the big whites and switching between all of their current mirrorless camera bodies. No need for security guards. We were honestly much more worried about dropping the big heavy equipment than we were about theft.

  • @martinkarlsson9278
    @martinkarlsson9278 9 месяцев назад +2

    Regarding shutter speed, there are 3rd party Camera apps that do more than the standard Apple camera app. Good call on the viewfinder, that is a BIG help for us with glasses. Fun closing: I love the phone camera more than my old Nikon D3100. 😊

  • @AndrewOzete-ui5fs
    @AndrewOzete-ui5fs 9 месяцев назад

    Are you publishing your iPhone 15 Pro Max camera review soon?
    I know a lot of other bloggers have talked about it, but Tony does such a great and thorough job, I think of him as the modern “Consumer Reports” for camera reviews. And I say that with the highest praise.
    As always, you guys did a great job with this tvideo.

  • @gonzaloleviatanh
    @gonzaloleviatanh 9 месяцев назад

    On holiday, I take my A7III all the time. I also bring a 2.8 28-75 and 70-180. Forgot to mention the a flash with a a mini softbox

  • @r.oltramare515
    @r.oltramare515 9 месяцев назад

    Best overall and travel camera: Leica Q3. I just love it

  • @sylvaindupuis5595
    @sylvaindupuis5595 9 месяцев назад

    I just came back yesterday from 2 weeks in London and Ireland. I had my camera and lenses but I didn't even got my lenses out of my suitcase. There where only 2 days without rain in the whole trip and on those days I was so afraid of rain that I didn't use the different lenses. I used my camera only on 2 days, the rest of the pictures where just the phone.

  • @catlike1
    @catlike1 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think a relatively cheap, used cropped sensor camera is good for travel when you’re a bit worried about theft. They are also quite compact and light.

  • @ArneSaknussemm1
    @ArneSaknussemm1 9 месяцев назад +1

    I can't believe you would not take your camera such a significant location, as a photographer I also see the world through my camera in a very different way than through my phone or my eyes. I live in Tenerife - Spain with relatively little crime and travel to Barcelona a few months ago where I was told things were drastically worse; but I never left my camera out of my hands always kept a close to my buddy and since I was taking pictures most of the time it wasn't uncomfortable at all, also out of common sense I avoided going to the worst neighborhoods in the city us advice by people all over I. I have some of the best memories not just from the photos with the little extra time I took this covering the details in the architecture just because I paused to focus and compose my photos. I believe photography made me enjoy my visit a lot more, and I only use my photos in restaurants where I cared more for the delicious Catalan food anything else. And when I got back home editing brought all this wonderful moments in Barcelona.

  • @zoonabar
    @zoonabar 9 месяцев назад +1

    13:44 it’s probably been mentioned but the x100v has a tilt screen 🤷‍♂️

  • @DennisFahlstrom
    @DennisFahlstrom 8 месяцев назад

    I carry my R6 with several lenses when I’m going somewhere that either the place, wildlife or people are subjects I’ll probably never see again but I’ve used my iPhone’s going back to an iPhone 5 for photos and none have failed to provide good to very good results. Not as good as a $3000 full frame body paired with a $1200 f1.2 lens but much more convenient. I just temper my expectations.

  • @LionRunner
    @LionRunner 9 месяцев назад

    More than the image quality my biggest issue with iPhone(s) were images and videos getting stuck in the phone not been able to copy for editing. It gives device not responding when copying. After switching to Android I love how they work like a external drive when copying files. Manual controls on the camera app is very good for me.

    • @DaneRThomas
      @DaneRThomas 9 месяцев назад

      I've taken thousands of photos with iPhones from the 4 to the 13 Pro and never experienced the problem you describe. AirDrop or send if needed, or share via iCloud photo drive and I edit directly on one of my Macs.

    • @LionRunner
      @LionRunner 9 месяцев назад

      @@DaneRThomas I'm a PC guy. I need data transfer via cable for PC and backup drive system.

  • @user-uj5jm5mj7v
    @user-uj5jm5mj7v 9 месяцев назад

    Sounds like a good advertisement for M4/3 and the Lumix G9Mk2 with a leica pancake lens me thinks! I have all of the pro Canon gear and love the iPhone - waiting to buy the iPhone15 Pro! But, my old G9 and 15mm lens seems like a good prime?? camera to take along with the iPhone?? The most fun I had on holiday was during a Baltic cruise - I took the G9 and 3 lenses - even the 200mm prime looks small and took great photos!!

  • @rubbrdux
    @rubbrdux 9 месяцев назад +3

    When I'm traveling, particularly out of country, I take my phone (Samsung S22 Ultra right now) and a Sony RX100-VA which are both pretty easily hidden or disguised to make them less tempting to thieves as well as being extremely easy to take with me. I'm very fond of the VA due to its size, the 24-70 lens (1.8-2.8f), and 1" sensor, tile screen and tiny popup viewfinder. Photos are quite good with both. Of the two, I strongly suggest the RX100 series with the accessory leather case that comes with a neck strap. Putting the strap around my neck makes it very easy to slide the camera under a jacket flap to hide it until I'm ready to take a photo. I would love to send you a couple of sample photos from each so you could see how well they both do their jobs. My other cameras are Sony apsc 6000 and 6500 with several different lenses both of which I've had for several years and also enjoy. Even though they both serve me well and are fairly small, they are still quite obvious to everyone around me.

    • @dalejones146
      @dalejones146 9 месяцев назад +1

      I have the Sony RX100Vii 24mm-200mm zoom f2.8-4.5 and the leather case like you have. Yours is certainly better in low light than mine but I love the reach the Vii has and using Clear Image Zoom (only in JPEG), I can reach a 400mm equivalent for both photos and videos while still maintaining good image quality. I've considered selling it many times but it's just great to have a feature-rich, pocketable camera that I can take with me anywhere.

    • @rubbrdux
      @rubbrdux 9 месяцев назад

      @dalejones146 I picked the VA for the low light as a used camera. It has clear image zoom also, so gets to abour a 135mm equiv. We visit a lot of interiors ( cathedrals, etc.,) so the lens works out well. I've also considered getting the longer lens model just for the extra flexibility you mentioned. I must say, though, that this RX100 series is an excellent travel and under the radar camera. I'm happy with it.

  • @Funktrainer
    @Funktrainer 9 месяцев назад

    I just bring my Leica M8, M9-P and a bunch of lenses in two small bags with me on vacation plus a Rolleicord Model I Art Deco, tried my XPERIA 5 Mark III for photography and got around ten pretty o.k. shots as soon as the bright sun went away there was no information in the images plus there are no aperture blades in a smartphone plus you have more time and ergonomics to take better images on a real camera.

  • @GenericPast
    @GenericPast 9 месяцев назад +2

    When I had to use my phone in RAW for a few weeks after my camera died from a fall into a lake, I realized moreso how limited phone cameras are.

  • @blessedjunior6989
    @blessedjunior6989 9 месяцев назад

    Whatever camera you used to shoot your video the quality is great. The way your skin colour is showing is amazing. I dont know if you have a video showing your lighting set up but i think it will be nice to show us. I started watchng your videos when i wanted to buy myself a camera and i like them. Still havent bought one yet coz im still trying to save up money and i will. After i watched your previous video about the iphone 15 camera there is a video im going to post and i hope you watch it

  • @justin.mitchell
    @justin.mitchell 9 месяцев назад +1

    The X100V does have a tilt screen, it just tucks in so nicely to the body that you forget it tilts.

  • @skkane
    @skkane 9 месяцев назад

    You should try the Huawei P60 Pro if you want to adjust the aperture.

  • @duns7800
    @duns7800 9 месяцев назад

    I would like to know what you think about the GRiii if you could review please. Pocketable little camera great for vacations.....

  • @mizachs
    @mizachs 9 месяцев назад

    I'd probably use my Nikon Coolpix cameras for the holidays. Small sensor but zooming is easy. I have a W300 and a B700. If it rains, W300. For Zoo visits, B700. Both small and light cameras.

  • @sunlit777
    @sunlit777 9 месяцев назад +1

    You don't have to "reselect RAW every time" you use iphone - the setting sticks. Nobody's shooting live photos for anything serious, iPhone RAW edits pretty well in Lightroom, so yeah, just shoot raw and you'll be fine (so long as you remember is a tiny garbage sensor which pulls off decent shots due to multiple exposure stacking)

  • @darrylm79
    @darrylm79 9 месяцев назад

    Hey guys. I'm only 5 mins in, but when I had an iPhone 12, I purchased the Camera + and then Camera +2 app. IIRC, you could shoot RAW with that natively and it would remember. The details elude me on the standard one, but I think that would be the better option? It used to be pretty inexpensive back in the day, NOW, it looks to be over $24.99 USD on the app store. Yikes.

  • @ModulerDrone
    @ModulerDrone 9 месяцев назад

    I brought my 3 little Ricoh GR cameras on my vacation and had so much fun with them. Having 3 prime focal lengths pretty quickly accessible (GXR around the neck and the GR II and GR IIIx in my pocket or camera pack) was not that more cumbersome to snap away
    Also some of the pictures of a sun behind a hill I got with the GXR A12 with a small telephoto were insane. Impossible with a phone
    Still loved the 4k 60fps mode on the iPhone 14 for family moments though
    Overall really happy with the flexibility and results having “real” cameras on me, even though it’s not as easy peasy as with just a phone… definitely worth it

  • @gfly3
    @gfly3 9 месяцев назад

    please do a video on how to calibrate your monitor for prints.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @MrSamoDude
    @MrSamoDude 9 месяцев назад

    The x100v does have a tilt screen, perhaps you were shooting in portrait? Also on iPhone under the settings app, go to camera, then preserve settings, and you can toggle on Apple ProRAW and it will no longer keep turning back off every time you close the camera app.

  • @simpletraveltech
    @simpletraveltech 9 месяцев назад

    About the GPS tagging, at least with Canon you can use Canon Connect app on the iPhone to share GPS to the camera so that every picture taken can get GPS coordinates from the phone. I use that all the time and all my Canon pictures are geotagged. I am sure it's the same for Sony and Fuji even I am not experienced with this but the smartphone can compliment the camera. Also there is an app that you can use to take pictures from the camera directly to the phone live at the moment of shooting without any action (export/import). It's called Capture One but it requires a subscription.

  • @guyjordan8201
    @guyjordan8201 9 месяцев назад

    I think there is a strong place for a travel camera with superzoom. I’d love to see you actually compare and contrast a compact like HX99, or even an OM5 with 14-140 glass, to a top end phone camera. Smaller than your “full rig” but are they worthwhile over a phone?

  • @roberts2714
    @roberts2714 9 месяцев назад

    I travel with a low cost mirrorless DX camera and a cell phone. I use the cell phone for selfies or photos of my spouse in the shot, great for screens and the mirrorless camera for my creative photos to be edited and printed. The $1000 DX mirrorless cots the same as the cell phone so no more costly to have stolen. As a Nikon user the Z50 works for me for travel. Other brands also have $1000 mirrorless cameras.

  • @MartyTheZebraa
    @MartyTheZebraa 9 месяцев назад

    These pods need to be longer !!

  • @Mandt6
    @Mandt6 9 месяцев назад

    Take the camera and a travel telephoto zoom lens and you're set! The Tamron 18-400mm was awesome to use - not sharp at all but so much sharper and easier to edit than iPhone.

  • @kbarrett1844
    @kbarrett1844 9 месяцев назад +1

    For another perspective on utilizing mobile phones for travel photography check out the work of Jefferson Graham, Rick Sammon and Scott Kelby.

  • @eahughey
    @eahughey 9 месяцев назад +1

    Whenever I travel with my wife I leave the big-rig camera at home because I already know she's not going to be happy with me fiddling with it and getting the perfect shot. Samsung S22 Ultra to the rescue. The zoom is great and its good enough for memories.