for the casters wondering why its not working, if the main boss silences you it stops in place to cast the spell. this lets the council catch up a bit, making the timing on re-pulling much more precise. Try a few times, hope for rng, and it will be much easier. With some practice the timing gets easier. Also, dont go to the stump until phase 2 has fully started or it will teleport you back to the ads and you will most likely die. hope this helps :]
Yeah I have been unable to pull the boss without them casting silence regardless of what I do. I went through 10 attempts before saying fuck it and just face tanking it all. Was faster to just face tank it rather than deal with the silence stupidity. I wouldn't of believed it possible to do the pull without silence being cast if not for this video. I'm guessing it's because he's rage based?
well can't get it to work and on my third try the boss doesn't reset, like it followed me to the exit. Then another try I only have the adds to kill the boss isn't there, I kill them the boss appear in phase 2 very strange.
27/04/2023 just killed it that way after watching that video.. tried several times cause boss was outrunning the other 2 but if u manage to pull add before boss full resets u will go at ph2 !! thanks a lot
it works still, but after the transition for some reason the adds often will snap back onto me after attempting to return to their native positions. this makes the solo impossible and I have to die to get another try. sometimes it works nicely on the first try and it's an easy 5 minute affair, but most often it takes multiple attempts and most recently has taken me over an hour to get it. i think it's just rng, but if not then does anyone know what exactly causes this?
Can confirm this works but for boomie the treant/rocket boot method works better. I use this method if the treant method doesn’t work right away while the trees are back on cd.
edit: I just dual box solo'd it with feral druid tank and holy paladin healer, all I had to do was use both chars stuns on the healer add and keep holy paladin far enough away to outlast the blind then run em back to my bear. Not to hard. Glitch just wasnt working out for me... having trouble with this, tried for a few hours. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, usually trying to pull the adds before the boss gets back they evade on the 2nd run back.
Tried this and the other ways (that typically work) today, but none worked. Ended up just having to kill him normally after spending an hour trying to glitch them out like I normally do.
Anyone tried again lately? Worked okay in the last weeks, but today I tried 70+ times and of those few times he did go to phase 2, he just reset after 1-10 seconds and ran back.
The guess back in the day was that by desynching the adds you would convince the boss "AI" that it's adds were dead and thus it was time to change into P2.
:edit: i have no idea what happened but i eventually just started attacking all of them down in the glitch spot and they randomly died and phased to p2 so i guess that works hahaha
This works to get the phase, but the main downside is as Rogue is you have to face tank the boss and lose a fair amount of HP, and in addition to that you'll likely need the Dirty Tricks talent for the extra Blind range to be able to reagro the adds before the boss fully resets. If you're Engi you can just use nitro boots & sprint and reagro that way but given you've taken damage, the gear requirement (or DPS, requirement) is a lot tighter. Still works though. For anyone who is saying "it doesn't work his adds didn't fully go away", it's because you *NEED* to let them fully reset, and reagro before the boss fully does. The window is not exceptionally generous, if you pull before the adds fully reset they will be present in his fight. This was the behaviour I noticed when doing it on my Fire Mage at any rate. That said as Rogue you're likely better off just doing the old pull where you body pull the two small Humanoid adds, and then kite around the stump (need to run into the wall at around a 45 degree angle facing the direction you're going to not get teleported) until the two smaller humanoids are near, then jump off the ramp and reset the boss, ideally with the Tigers being closer to you than the Humanoids. Then just run back to the boss platform and pull the two small adds again before the tigers have fully reset and run straight out, if done right (and with a little luck) the boss will phase, if it's messed up just vanish and redo the setup & try again. This way you're starting P2 with way more health as you're only (ideally) getting hit twice. Other classes can do this to I guess if you're struggling, but resetting without Vanish/Invisibility/Shadowmeld might be a nuisance.
So far he silences EVERY single time i pull him sometimes he does it twice Edit: i was able to get it by waiting for the silence when i have them grouped then run to entrance.
this is great but it seems like you can save time by skipping all the trash and just killing this boss normal. i don't kill any trash packs when i solo
@@joyuniverse1 i am a priest and did a SW:P to pull zath. i just retried to pull with SW:D (to avoid having a dot on the add). it worked out fine. the adds didn't despawn, but they just reset back to the throne. they are still kneeling there waiting for their dead high priest. i'll try to replicate this in the next id. thank you very much for the vid! ❤
You don't even have to be a caster. I did it on my paladin and after 10 tries where it cast silence every single time I gave up and just face tanked it. I tried another 20 times on the shaman and got silenced every time. Didn't matter how long I waited in the back for it. Soon as I rode away it'd cast silence.
@@ToolofSociety you can wait for him to cast silence on the place where you stack the mobs, then you start running. Also if he cast silence in the beginning of the kiting you can still glitch it. Thats how i do it with shadow priest. Wait for silence, start running. The only time he doesnt glitch is if he catches to the mobs before reset. Even if you are 0.5s faster before he resets, he will still glitch
@@ivailobozhilov6179 I wait for his silence every time, yet he casts it twice before I get out of the room. 100% rate. 30+ pulls with exact same result.
Word of caution - when he says “a little bit of rng” about the Silence, its not a little bit. Been trying for a fucking hour and had 2 pulls without him silencing me on the way. So arm yourselves with patience
Yeah I gave up after being silenced 30x (tankadin and shaman attempts combined) in a row regardless of how long I waited or what path I followed. It used to be a lot easier in TBC.
its funny to me how they are hotfixing ZG tigerboss exploits in their classic version 14 times quicker than their live game. edit: a.k.a doesnt work anymore.
@Icicleyo Incorrect, this method still works. It's inconsistent as mentioned due to the Silence casts from the boss, but I literally performed this trick on two different characters Tuesday, Jun 27th. The only thing that got "fixed" is the unrelated DOT strategy where you kite the boss around the stump at the front of the room - but like, c'mon, that's obviously unintended raid boss behavior. Not unrealistic at all to change that.
June 28th, '23 - This method STILL works, I'm able to do this on my 4.6k gearscore shadow priest and on my 4k gearscore 'sin rogue - still do it weekly. This trick IS inconsistent. Don't be discouraged if it hasn't worked for you in an attempt or two, just do it exactly like the video shows and eventually it'll work. Like others pointed out occasionally you'll have bad luck, the boss will silence you a time or two and that'll put him closer to the adds. The boss also has a better 10m time than Usain Bolt so he'll often beat the adds back to the reset point despite getting good luck with silences. Sometimes, the boss and adds don't reset, so they follow you out of the room and beat your ass. I've died a lot of times to that. The trick is a lot more difficult to perform on my rogue (since I don't have an instant cast ranged ability I can pull the adds with), and my bow is really slow (2.8 speed). What I have to do is: follow the video just like normal, but when I'm running back to the adds a second time to pull them, I'll use rocket boots to get in position quicker. That gives me enough time to queue an arrow shot on the Zealot add - and if I'm lucky it won't evade. You probably don't need rocket boots to do this if instead you have a thrown weapon and position quickly. Consider also using defensive potions/flasks, and make sure you bring a Runic Healing Potion just in case. Hope this helps someone looking for info.
Nov 28th: this method still works, if you can't get it done it means you did something wrong
May 25th, 2023. Method still works on live servers. Took a few tries, but got him to change even with a silence.
March 26 , 2024 still works
Thank YOU!!!!!, fking been trying to do this farm for a long time on my shadow priest.
for the casters wondering why its not working, if the main boss silences you it stops in place to cast the spell. this lets the council catch up a bit, making the timing on re-pulling much more precise. Try a few times, hope for rng, and it will be much easier. With some practice the timing gets easier. Also, dont go to the stump until phase 2 has fully started or it will teleport you back to the ads and you will most likely die. hope this helps :]
Yeah I have been unable to pull the boss without them casting silence regardless of what I do. I went through 10 attempts before saying fuck it and just face tanking it all. Was faster to just face tank it rather than deal with the silence stupidity.
I wouldn't of believed it possible to do the pull without silence being cast if not for this video. I'm guessing it's because he's rage based?
thank you, worked wonderfully
Very helpful
Thanks man
Got it working 2nd try with this method, thank you!
This is great, thanks!
works, did it as a boomkin. can also face tank boss in p2 so that was nice. sadly no mount tho
6th Dec: it still works! ty for the video
still works thanks for the guide !
Tried it now as a caster, works perfectly !
glad it works for you
Tried this, worked on my first try as Boomie. Make sure that the boss isnt casting spell as its stated in the video, so he keeps distance from mobs!
Can confirm this still works, as Shadowpriest. Took around 7 tries but eventually he did go in phase 2.
well can't get it to work and on my third try the boss doesn't reset, like it followed me to the exit. Then another try I only have the adds to kill the boss isn't there, I kill them the boss appear in phase 2 very strange.
27/04/2023 just killed it that way after watching that video.. tried several times cause boss was outrunning the other 2 but if u manage to pull add before boss full resets u will go at ph2 !! thanks a lot
it works still, but after the transition for some reason the adds often will snap back onto me after attempting to return to their native positions. this makes the solo impossible and I have to die to get another try. sometimes it works nicely on the first try and it's an easy 5 minute affair, but most often it takes multiple attempts and most recently has taken me over an hour to get it. i think it's just rng, but if not then does anyone know what exactly causes this?
Can confirm this works but for boomie the treant/rocket boot method works better. I use this method if the treant method doesn’t work right away while the trees are back on cd.
You can just facetank the boss as boomie, easier and faster
Is it doable with a shadow priest who just ding lvl80? Or do I need to farm some raid gear for being able to kill the boss?
it worked, thanks! as a rogue i used blind on an add to pull after the first reset.. cheers
big. nice!
Dec 11th: Still works and I got it on my first try. I'm a prot warrior if that would help.
edit: I just dual box solo'd it with feral druid tank and holy paladin healer, all I had to do was use both chars stuns on the healer add and keep holy paladin far enough away to outlast the blind then run em back to my bear. Not to hard. Glitch just wasnt working out for me... having trouble with this, tried for a few hours. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, usually trying to pull the adds before the boss gets back they evade on the 2nd run back.
How on earth do you clear out those Axe throwers solo? They stun you for an eternity and you can't even bubble out of it....
Use a wall for los when they spin
how to pull him as rogue before he gets back, am engi and the nade takes too long to travel before Thekal reaches the platform -- any tips?
use tbc rocket boots for the last portion of run back, this should allow you to pull adds in melee range
Tried this and the other ways (that typically work) today, but none worked. Ended up just having to kill him normally after spending an hour trying to glitch them out like I normally do.
That's unfortunate, don't know what happened
also could not get this to work today. Boss goes to phase 2 form but none of his adds despawn.
Same, adds stay engaged
@@joyuniverse1 its not working man, have you even tried it today?
doesnt reset now when running out for the second time
This method does not work for me. The boss transforms after the second try, but his adds are still there,
Did you use a dot to pull the adds? For some reasons, dot seems to not despawn them
Anyone tried again lately? Worked okay in the last weeks, but today I tried 70+ times and of those few times he did go to phase 2, he just reset after 1-10 seconds and ran back.
How does this method even work? Like what mechanics trigger the phase change? It just doesnt even make sense.
Something to do with the reset and phase change interaction perhaps
@@joyuniverse1 i know... lol im asking how would this even cause a phase 2 to happen? theyre all still being pulled.
The guess back in the day was that by desynching the adds you would convince the boss "AI" that it's adds were dead and thus it was time to change into P2.
seems there might've been a fix, can't seem to get aggro on the mini bosses well anymore
was doing the method posted for around 3 weeks in a row, this week I can't seem to get proper aggro
:edit: i have no idea what happened but i eventually just started attacking all of them down in the glitch spot and they randomly died and phased to p2 so i guess that works hahaha
gj
This works to get the phase, but the main downside is as Rogue is you have to face tank the boss and lose a fair amount of HP, and in addition to that you'll likely need the Dirty Tricks talent for the extra Blind range to be able to reagro the adds before the boss fully resets.
If you're Engi you can just use nitro boots & sprint and reagro that way but given you've taken damage, the gear requirement (or DPS, requirement) is a lot tighter. Still works though.
For anyone who is saying "it doesn't work his adds didn't fully go away", it's because you *NEED* to let them fully reset, and reagro before the boss fully does. The window is not exceptionally generous, if you pull before the adds fully reset they will be present in his fight. This was the behaviour I noticed when doing it on my Fire Mage at any rate.
That said as Rogue you're likely better off just doing the old pull where you body pull the two small Humanoid adds, and then kite around the stump (need to run into the wall at around a 45 degree angle facing the direction you're going to not get teleported) until the two smaller humanoids are near, then jump off the ramp and reset the boss, ideally with the Tigers being closer to you than the Humanoids. Then just run back to the boss platform and pull the two small adds again before the tigers have fully reset and run straight out, if done right (and with a little luck) the boss will phase, if it's messed up just vanish and redo the setup & try again. This way you're starting P2 with way more health as you're only (ideally) getting hit twice.
Other classes can do this to I guess if you're struggling, but resetting without Vanish/Invisibility/Shadowmeld might be a nuisance.
Tried this and while kiting behind the stump I kept getting teleported out. Seems like its patched
Shouldn't kite behind stump before glitching boss to phase 2
So far he silences EVERY single time i pull him sometimes he does it twice Edit: i was able to get it by waiting for the silence when i have them grouped then run to entrance.
Jan 17th 2023 its still work
Worked for me 18th Apr 23
this is great but it seems like you can save time by skipping all the trash and just killing this boss normal. i don't kill any trash packs when i solo
Seems impossible for a Rogue, can't get a throw off before boss reset
what do i do when the 2 adds don't despawn?
Not sure what you mean, you get boss to phase 2 but adds don't despawn?
@@joyuniverse1 yes, exactly. boss is transforming into p2, but the 2 adds do not despawn.
@@joyuniverse1 i am a priest and did a SW:P to pull zath. i just retried to pull with SW:D (to avoid having a dot on the add). it worked out fine. the adds didn't despawn, but they just reset back to the throne.
they are still kneeling there waiting for their dead high priest.
i'll try to replicate this in the next id.
thank you very much for the vid! ❤
Doesn't work for casters. The main boss will keep using silience if you're a caster
There are many casters in the comment section got it work just fine
You don't even have to be a caster. I did it on my paladin and after 10 tries where it cast silence every single time I gave up and just face tanked it.
I tried another 20 times on the shaman and got silenced every time. Didn't matter how long I waited in the back for it. Soon as I rode away it'd cast silence.
@@ToolofSociety you can wait for him to cast silence on the place where you stack the mobs, then you start running. Also if he cast silence in the beginning of the kiting you can still glitch it. Thats how i do it with shadow priest. Wait for silence, start running. The only time he doesnt glitch is if he catches to the mobs before reset. Even if you are 0.5s faster before he resets, he will still glitch
@@ivailobozhilov6179 I wait for his silence every time, yet he casts it twice before I get out of the room. 100% rate. 30+ pulls with exact same result.
Word of caution - when he says “a little bit of rng” about the Silence, its not a little bit. Been trying for a fucking hour and had 2 pulls without him silencing me on the way. So arm yourselves with patience
interesting, he only silences casters it seems
Yeah I gave up after being silenced 30x (tankadin and shaman attempts combined) in a row regardless of how long I waited or what path I followed.
It used to be a lot easier in TBC.
Any word if this is still working?
it is
may 5th this still works
this works or not?
Just tested still works
he cast every time silence on me .d
its funny to me how they are hotfixing ZG tigerboss exploits in their classic version 14 times quicker than their live game.
edit: a.k.a doesnt work anymore.
Just tested, still works
@Icicleyo Incorrect, this method still works. It's inconsistent as mentioned due to the Silence casts from the boss, but I literally performed this trick on two different characters Tuesday, Jun 27th. The only thing that got "fixed" is the unrelated DOT strategy where you kite the boss around the stump at the front of the room - but like, c'mon, that's obviously unintended raid boss behavior. Not unrealistic at all to change that.
Takes longer then killing all 3 at once
not all ppl play tank you know
My mage has issues face tanking the 3 bosses. What do you do? :)
No shot you kill all 3 faster than this method. If you prove it, ill venmo you.
@@jumpingjumping7494 my unrelenting assault war easily does it faster than this. Might be the only spec that can do it that quick ATM tho
@@wefwefwerwer1362 what is an unrelenting assault warrior?
June 28th, '23 - This method STILL works, I'm able to do this on my 4.6k gearscore shadow priest and on my 4k gearscore 'sin rogue - still do it weekly. This trick IS inconsistent. Don't be discouraged if it hasn't worked for you in an attempt or two, just do it exactly like the video shows and eventually it'll work. Like others pointed out occasionally you'll have bad luck, the boss will silence you a time or two and that'll put him closer to the adds. The boss also has a better 10m time than Usain Bolt so he'll often beat the adds back to the reset point despite getting good luck with silences. Sometimes, the boss and adds don't reset, so they follow you out of the room and beat your ass. I've died a lot of times to that. The trick is a lot more difficult to perform on my rogue (since I don't have an instant cast ranged ability I can pull the adds with), and my bow is really slow (2.8 speed). What I have to do is: follow the video just like normal, but when I'm running back to the adds a second time to pull them, I'll use rocket boots to get in position quicker. That gives me enough time to queue an arrow shot on the Zealot add - and if I'm lucky it won't evade. You probably don't need rocket boots to do this if instead you have a thrown weapon and position quickly. Consider also using defensive potions/flasks, and make sure you bring a Runic Healing Potion just in case. Hope this helps someone looking for info.