The Cambered Bar Will Change Your Chest Training
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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You can really see Pete’s ROM increase throughout the video!
Thanks for having me on!
Our pleasure! Poor Pete! - Dr. Mike
I'm jealous!
This is why I love the chest press machine. I've just got the basic one at my gym, but you can have it stretch back so far and it feels fantastic and then you just... let go and it's fine. The stretch under load concept has helped me a ton with slow eccentrics.
Machines should never be your go to.
@@mikejones9906 yup. They should be though.
@@TheKbthakur No, they shouldn't..
@@mikejones9906 you must be new to this channel? I don't have a spotter so I can't bench to absolute failure (when the time calls for it). I can with machines. Dr Mike literally put out a video explaining all of this, but okay.
@@BrofUJu A better alternative would be the smith machine if you don't have a spotter.
Beat addition to my home gym in years. How bout a camber bar bent row tutorial next?
Camber bar for bent row would make the muscle more contracted instead of stretched no?
@@gurmeharsingh5228correct. Kinda pointless
Picked up a bar exactly like this from Titan Jan 15. $200. Chrome. Have been using this as a primary movement in a double progression at 30% Incline since. I knew it would hit my chest but I am still hitting Triceps and Shoulders hard. It is all stretched. :) Pulled back scapula high chest for sure makes a difference letting the bar sink in. Getting the form down took a couple of sessions. I plan on focusing on this for a while before I bring back the straight bar and Dumbbells. Indeed I can see the real benefit here even over DBs as Mike explains. Best of both worlds.
5:43 I need "Lock it! Lock it!" as an isolated file to play on repeat in my headphones at the gym. 🤣
I do that with dumbbells. I guess I’m lucky I’m on the beginner side, because I never saw such a bar in any gym. Nice video!
Dumbbells and some chest machines allow for an amazing bottom stretch, so you're good! - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization mike, I feel like the dumbbells I use at my gym were a bit too big for my bottom today… any advice?
@@Codeman09876work on that stretch, you will open up😉
I've been using the cambered bar since you introduced it on RUclips, idk how long ago, and it is fantastic! I can't wait for my blocks of dumbbell pressing to end so I can get back to it!
Woooo!! I just got back into it recently and man... nothing really hits like it. My pecs are like "huh?" - Dr. Mike
What brand is the bar?
What brand is the cambered bar you guys used?
Still waiting for this answer
It looks like the bar sold by Ader Fitness.
It's OK, not great. Shape is perfect. The knurl is good, not great (and I'm not a guy who obsesses about knurl). It could use some cuts for hand spacing. Most importantly, it rusts easier than any bar I have ever owned. I think it arrived with rust on it. 3 in 1 oil is your friend.
That said, I don't think that there are many options out there if you are insisting on this shape.Wish Rogue or Rep would make something like this instead of the curved ones or the crazy contraptions.
@@ILruffianrogue has the seal row bar with a way deeper camber
I’ve always had trouble feeling my chest in any pressing movement. I humbled my ego dropped the weight by almost 50% and started using this and my chest has exploded
Cambered bench press is so much better for me than dumbbells. All the stretch benefits of dips/dumbbells but easier to load and more stable. My fav new toy!
If anyone wants to try this then grab some of your useless school books and do deficit push ups off them
And dips
Or use pushup handles
Or use Hexagon Dumbbells as your "Pushup Handles". I find the surface area for regular Pushup Handles too small, it really hurts when it's pressing on the hand for a long time.
Or do Ring Pushups, the king of all Chest exercises.
@@popcornto6032 ring push ups are goated
@@popcornto6032 can be circumvented by putting fat grips on them
I always thought where I hold the bar determined how much stretch I got, but I got a Kabuki strength kadillac bar which is cambered as well. I just used the handles in the medium position but I let the bar almost touch my chest on each rep. It was one of the first time in a long time I felt a little sore in my pecs the next day, and this was with much less weight than what I can do with a straight bar. From then on, I worried less about whats the most weight I can lift and focused on how much of a stretch I can get. I'm not a powerlifter, so really I shouldn't even care about how much weight I can bench press.
I'm going to ask my gym to get a cambered bar tomorrow! Awesome vid!
Good luck! - Dr. Mike
funny how i learn more from watching you and elitefts and others then I did in 4 years studying to be PT XD
Did this in the morning for the first time, love how it feels gives a great stretch to pecs and can definitely feel muscle working
Tried it today. Its a great bar.
If you have a 1 or 2 board press, using them w this bar can help you ease into the deeper ROM and provide another nice variation.
The cambered bar bench, to me, seems like a great off season accessory for powerlifers. They can keep most of the comp bench setup and still reap the benefits of the extra stretch stimulation
Is there a reason so many cambered bars are neutral grip? Is regular grip better?
Another good implement, is the arch nemesis bar, cambered and also with a neutral grip witch is great for shoulers.
Where's Charly been? Haven't seen him in a long time
I throw these in every few mesocycles. Too much and it can start to aggravate my shoulder but they are superior for building strength off the chest.
Yep, and please remember that if you get shoulder pain by going alllll the way down, you can still get amazing gains with this bar if you go down only as deep as you can with comfort. - Dr. Mike
That’s it! I’m ordering one.
Titan has a chrome one for 180... The one they use is on Amazon for 300. Ader bar.
@@TommyStarwind thanks for the heads up! Definitely getting one soon.
I like dumbell press with a neutral grip to make it easier to get to the side of the pec for a deep stretch
I'd love to try this but I've never encountered a cambered bar in the wild lol
Yes dumbbells are for experienced lifters it require much more stabilization and correct technique and is difficult to load
Indeed that’s better for muscle growth !
But what is your opinion about this exercice when it comes to shoulder health ? Do you think the extra stretch would be beneficial for « bullteproofing » your shoulders as it would make it stronger and more flexibe, or do you think this would likely put your shoulders in a potentially higher risk of injury than regular bench press ?
Thank you
If you start slow and controll the bottom part of the ROM you will improve your mobility and shoulder health and not destroy it!
Imagine going to a normal bench after abusing the cambered bar, your shoulders ROM will feel so much stronger and healthier when you use a „normal“ ROM
What's the brand for the bar you're using?
I'm wondering the same too
Ader Fitness
The editor pulling out Phutureprimitive! I see you buddy!
Do you have any idea about what causes bloated belly/ palumbolism in people who are natty? I don’t mean an insanely bloated belly just one that sticks out a bit even when fairly lean and just looks unaesthetic
could be visceral fat, which could be caused by too much alcohol or sugar intake, or your transverse abdominis is weak
Almost always genetics. My parents both have little pot bellies and have had them most of their lives even though they are super healthy. It's just how some people are shaped when they aren't flexing! - Dr. Mike
I wonder if there is a significant difference in various chest training goals using a neutral grip bar (such as the multi-grip cambered bar) instead?
The lack of this kind of bar is the exact reason i prefer dumbbells and not only for stretching but for inner chest activation and squeeze at the top and also wrist angle. Yes im not able to lift 150kg for sets but im ok doing 55kg per hand for 12 reps with good form . I am 178cm , 85kg. Still long way to be able to lift them for 20 reps lol .. and then if i achieve it i can always decrease the rest between sets or number of sets or use the 65kg ones. They are the biggest ones where i train :S Anyway i dont really need to lift 200kg on a bar to grow my chest so i take dumbbells any day over a barbell. Some day my joints and tendons will be thankful that havent gone to the super strength route.
Lol' inner chest'
An alternative to the cambered bar is if you have chains, attach some d-handles. The ROM and stretch is awesome. The contraction at the top is great too.
Will be the perfect addition to my home gym , this is amaizing
Could you also show squatting and deadlift with this type of cambered bar, please ?
Would something like a arch nemesis bar by bells of steel be a good replacement for this
Looking extra jacked today dr Mike 👍
is there a big difference between doing this and using dumbbells?
Yes dumbbells are for experienced lifters it require much more stabilization and correct technique and is difficult to load
If you had to pick one, would you recommend a bar like the one in the video or a multi-grip cambered swiss bar? I really want to incorporate it into my training, but I can afford only one of them.
You can also do push-ups with your hands on blocks or chairs and get that same deeper range of motion. And of course DBs also alow you to go deeper than a straight barbell. But when first trying the chambered bar I would use a bit lighter weight than you would use on a straight bar and do some good warm sets first starting with just the bar. Cause your really stretching those chest muscles under load. And be especially carefull if you have shoulder problems.
I wish Rogue would make this bar.
They do. It’s an option with the SEAL row bench.
My gym has one. The deficit is a little too big imo
Awesome video
Exact reason why I love deficit Ring Pushups.
I wish my gym had a cambered bar. I've always wanted to give these a go.
Guys, what kind of cambered bar would you recommend? Rather more (62 cm) space or less (40 cm)?
So I am the owner of my garage gym and want a cambered bar badly. Cant find one in Canada though. Any suggestions?
Same here, were you able to find one in Canada?
ROGUE Canada sells one, they call it the Rogue Seal ROW BAR (RA2985-BEBR), but the price (with taxes and shipping) is more than CDN$550.00 (and probably going up, not down).
@straightlevel.cruising2644 nope, best I can find is the arch nemesis Swiss bar through bells of steel.
Would this also improve tricep stimulus?
An extra 1, 2, or 3 inches can really make a difference.
That’s what she said.
Is there realy a scenario where straight bar is better?
I mean, it's better for chest and back exercises and it's the same for squats and deadlifts. I guess only narrow grip pressing is worse with cambered bar.
So, if you have to choose one for home gym, I'd say, cambered is better.
Where get bar?
What brand is that camber bar? Depth of the indent?
I see varying ones online.
Can we get a technique fix video on the pullover for lat focus? I feel like I've tried different variations but never get a good lat pump. Thank you!!
As my Gym doesn't have a cambered bar I think I'll go back to weighted deficit push-ups using a weight belt, dip bars, and box
Is Dr Mike going to be at The Arnold in Columbus?
He is! Come around to the RP booth and say whassup! - Dr. Mike
Would one use this as the main compound movement on a push focused day?
Say cambered bar bench press as seen here then chest flyes after?
yes
Would you recommend doing these or flat bench earlier in the week? Have 2 chest days and plan to do flat bench heavier and these higher reps.
Kabuki Cadillac bar is the bomb
Do you have to have a spotter to use this barbell? The safety bars in a power rack would get in the way otherwise, and you can't do a roll of shame either. Is there any other way?
I don't know if I even have that mobility. If I go wider than the rings with my pinkies it starts to hurt my shoulders.
Wish someone will figure out how to bench with a rotator cuff tear can’t find anything
I just gave up and had surgery to repair the injury. I'm 62yo and recovery has taken a while but its well worth it. Stop suffering suck it up and get it fixed. I have had the repair twice in the rt shoulder first injury caused by snow ski accident. Last injury caused by ladder collapse and 12' fall. Don't fear the knife. Fear the damage caused by shoulder instability! Shoulder is as good as a teenager now working to get my 70 pull up twice a week routine back!
@@tonysimi5763 godspeed
@@drinkinouttacups2665 Lol ill be seeing him soon enough no need for speed!
I do deficit push ups after barbell work and the pain is just insane
What kind of pain?
@@akbananachucker2441 the good one
@@akbananachucker2441 ED
What brand is this cambered bar?
Ader Fitness.
Dr Mike - would use the cambered swiss bar from REP (i.e neutral grip) be just as good as the standard grip? Experiencing shoulder instability with standard barbell and looking for good variation.
Dr Mike, how does using this type of camber bar compare to using something like the Kabuki or elitefts style camber bar??
All are great options. - Dr. Mike
I only have neutral grip cambered bars available in my country - would you recommend still going for that?
Do you thinks its a problem to train chest shoulders with little bit athroses in tje left shoulder? I am 26 and have a little bit athroses. I ask n expert which say almost everybody with 30 has this but it often doesnt give you any pain. I have sometimes a little bit pain in this area but not much
Valuable!
What’s an alternative if your gym does not have it?
No cambered bar? Fat grips can add a bit more ROM to a standard barbell. I find the thicker grip pretty comfortable as well.
that's smart, I'll try that while my bar ships👍
Isn't it injury dangerous bar?
Can you make an incline barbell, and peck fly machine vid?
Did Charly leave RP?
Never noticed Dr. Mike has the "don`t fuck with me ears"
I have a Cambered Bar, it's hard on the shoulders.
I know I’m asking for a lot but, could you do one of these on a cambered Swiss bar?
Where can I get the bar your using in the video?
Ader Fitness.
Jokes on you, my ROM is already insane because of my proportions.
Lankgang
Tried to see if it was asked but is some version of a buffalo bar going to so this as well even though it changes your grip position?
Can you explain how this would be different than a flat or incline dumbbell bench when it comes to hypertrophy and muscle activation, please?
Iti is better
When someone with a chest 5 times bigger than yours tells you, listen to what he's saying
Could you make a video about the principle of variation
It already exists ruclips.net/video/ImqXbJS5SIs/видео.html
Does this work the same as a neutral grip cambered bar?
I need one of those bars
When will we see the Korean Hulk, Charly Joung again? 😀
Is this Charlie? Hi Charlie 😂🖐
who makes decent cambered bars for bench pressing?
Just thing this bar is a time bomb for a pec tear specially at heavy loads
everyone 's talking about ROM, why not then just use dumbbells?
for the algorithms
i use a old pressmachine with a pad behind my back for extra reach, not only because there is no camberd bar, but also because less and less people spot correctly, .......i see kids behind there buddy, just waiting till he fails, than laughing before hoisting the weight of his chest dayly........maybe the importance of spotting suportively sould be explained in a video????
i got a neutral grip cambered bar because of any mobility injury from heavy benching. is this okay?
I was watching some of your older training stuff like three hours ago because what else would I do with my free time, and I was thinking, "I should get one of these camber bars. I'm just not sure if it will be worth jt." And then you posted this. Here I thought you were joking when you said you have cameras all around the country to watch people.
Anyone know what brand of bar this is? I've seen some with less than 3 inch cambered drop and ones that say 7 inch drop.
Hi would a neutral grip cambered bar do the same and straight bar at recruiting musculature?
What’s the song?
What brand is that bar?
Ader Fitness.
Barbell
Also dangerous if you put the load past where it needs to.
Damn, this is one of my weaknesses …..simply getting my elbows lower….
Anyone know where I can get that black cambered bar for my home gym?
Ader Fitness, $265. That appears to be the one Dr. Mike is using. Pretty sure it is the only black bar with chrome sleeves with that shape. I've had it for years. Shape is perfect. Build quality is average at best. Knurling is OK, not great (and I'm not a knurl snob). No hand spacing cuts. Most importantly, the coating is shit. Most rust-prone bar I've ever owned. 3 in 1 oil is your friend.
Coming from the future to say this is an awesome bar. If you need a shorter one for space reasons, Exponent Edge makes a 6' cambered barbell that they market as a rackable curl bar. Love the crap out of mine.
This feels Un good. I don’t have short arms.
Same here found the more neutral grip options to feel a bit better though
So does this only apply to hypertrophy or does it also apply to strength?
Excuse my ignorance.
They're pretty heavily correlated. A big muscle is a strong muscle.
I want to this to be me goddammit I want dr.mike to light me up