The unofficial OSMS servers all allow multi-client, so half the server is full of afk players getting leech, and the other half are arch-mages selling leech. Despite how populated they are, there is very little activity in them. Artale, at least in it's current state, requires you to actually play!
I don't really want to support Nexon products and what you are saying is true. Playing on revival which doesnt allow multiclient is scratching that itch, although the trade off is peak population Ive seen is around 24 players. The interesting part is I have interacted and made more friends and overall felt less lonely than in popular servers like legends or royals.
honestly unofficial servers gave the full maplestory experience already. I don't see a reason to play artale and the like. Leeching being a major issue not fixed in ANY maplestory server, I don't see it fixed in these old school servers and bishops giving more exp in a party than alone enables leeching more and more. The game has problems and until now I don't see sane people fixing them.
Artale also has a leech limit too. You need to be within 5 levels of a player, or the monster, to leech, and you need to be actively attacking monsters, otherwise you don't get any leech.
I actually love it, with like 1,000 channels or more. with 50 max, means the best maps in the game dont have 30 people on each channel. I can farm for hours on the best maps solo and its wonderful. And unlike 2004, discord is a thing now. So you can still find parties to do content if you want to without sacrificing having that.
The change to punching as a ranged character is purely a good thing. Yes, it makes it so those classes don't go to suboptimal maps and can now go to the maps other players use. But also, the only reason archers had to use those maps is because this mechanic forces them there. No archer or assassin went to those maps because they liked to be there. They went there because there was no alternative.
From a balance standpoint it's highly debateable, whether you personally think it's purely a good thing or not. The tradeoff was always that there are also many, many maps where ranged classes excel at over melee due to the fact that they can sit in safe locations and clear platforms. Monkey Forest, Lost Time, Ghost Ship, countless other spots. You can debate both sides and it really comes down to your personal thoughts on balance. And I say all of this as someone who heavily played(plays) bowmaster and assassin.
There are a lot of issues with Artale, but the community for Maple worlds (mostly OSMS enjoyers) from what I have seen has got to be one of the worst I've seen in a pretty long time. People constantly demanding them to fix this fix that, yelling at them about how the game feels janky or how it isnt a true old school experience when hardly anyone can even agree on what features are important to the experience. Additionally, things like the custom worlds avatars are so minor and help support artale via their free pass in a very non intrusive way, so I hope they keep that. Also, OSMS, in general, is quite awful. I really like that artale is doing their own thing, like fixing atrocious skill functionality and hopefully making bosses more interesting. there are certain janky things like not being able to drop items but overall I feel like Artale is in a position where they have to appease some of the most ungrateful people I've ever seen and anything they can do is pretty cool.
The only reason people are playing artale is because it's an official Nexon adjacent server. Objectively it's a poorly made server with tons of bugs and exploits, limitations. Defend it all you want but that's the objective truth. Compared to some of the other more modern private servers still in alpha like Maple Odyssey that aims to completely balance the skills and classes, Artale doesn't hold a candle. It doesn't even let Buccaneers, the shortest range class with zero damage reduction, s. Try playing a Bucc here. It's extremely clunky and pot heavy because of the lack of s. Not to mention the meso seller spammers and hackers. It's clear the Devs want to capitalize on the Global hype for a cash grab because the game in its current state is unacceptable.
@kienmaple you're acting like the devs are an established corporation. Is Artale perfect? No. Does it have to be? Also, no. It will improve over time, and it's still very early on in its lifeline. Maple worlds no doubt also poses its own set of challenges. Private servers are less restricted and have had way more time to develop. If you want to try your hand at that and risk the servers getting taken down or whatever else happens, be my guest. However, no one is forcing you to play Artale, and the staff there have 0 obligations to satisfy your nastalgia
I'm following this up closely, watching videos every day waiting for the jank and UI to get fixed, before I start playing. but I want the party quest haha.
It definitely has some good characteristics. I think all but the most hardcore OSMS players know the game needs some tuning. Private servers and Artale both have positive changes. Auction house, auto loot, ways to get NX/gach for free, are all great changes IMO. That being said calling Artale 'official' seems disingenuous to me. Its something, and something is better than nothing, but alot of the charm/nostalgia people are desiring is coming from the old assets and artale at least currently falls flat IMO. Lastly yes HP washing being gone is a good thing but can we really say "they fixed it" before people are fighting end game bosses, to me its hard to say its fixed if eventually people get to zakum and get one shot. Thats not to say they should add Washing back, there should definitely me more quests/items that boost flat hp, so that end game gear gives you the defense/HP needed to live.
Hey there, Are still doing dexless, a thing for some of the classes like Warrior , or Full dex bowman necessary in Artale as to maximum the damage output? Thanks!
The secondaryless stat builds revolve around certain equip availability to cover the stat requirements you need normally, specifically maple weapons, and provide most of the benefit of increased power in 1 to 3rd job ranges. there are no maple weapons currently in the server, ive heard mixed things on whether or not they will be released. Mage is the only one that does Lukless, I believe using yellow umbrella, but you can also transition into low luck. You can do low SS early on using certain weapons, and gear which provides secondary stat bonus to be able to equip your weapon without investing too much AP regularly. Which does give damage boost I know it's used on assassin using the Meba. Also pirate, not sure about archer. Warrior just just needs enough dex for accuracy to actually hit mobs, in combination with other accuracy sources. Dexless build would likely not work because there is not enough equips available that give outside accuracy bonuses.
The pay to win you mentioned although may make some uncomfortable, does encourage a healthier economy as long as there is an exchange between players. I play enough to have the meso to buy a AP reset token from a player. If by ugly truth you mean a more active player base then yes. You are correct. It allows casuals to feel like they can keep up in the game, and allows hardcore players to have access to the paid items for free. That just makes a better experience for everyone. I wouldn't wish any online game that has a precedence to keep up or be competitive to not allow a very affordable way to exchange gold from hardcore players into the hands of casuals VIA 2 dollar purchases.
There is an argument for that it's slightly pay to win. People are allowed to trade world coin for meso or items. Honestly it's not necessary unless you're trying to make an OP assassin from the start. I'm finding as a page that scrolls are really affordable and I can find 60% for only a couple k. It's a good experience playing so far I haven't seen any over powered players that have obviously paid to win.
It's not happening, the success of MapleLand in Korea is the nail in the coffin for any official made by Nexon osms server. Maplestory Worlds is as official as you're going to get.
@@SheepyMcSheeperton then I, personally, won't play. I just want the OG experience and I want to start around the same time as everyone else, ish. I feel like private servers are always trading one thing for another, etc.
Admittedly I'm not an OSMS fan. But it makes me laugh how much some people go on about how they want OSMS because the game has changed so much but then like how Artale isn't a straight up OSMS remake 😂
For now, Artale is all the west has. We don't even know for sure if we're getting Maple Lands. OSMS was a rocky experience, so if you're wanting to play it consistently, some QoL changes aren't insane.
@SmokeyEdits imt not interested in OSMS at all. I like modern MS alot more. Just making an observation about people that want OSMS but don't actually want OSMS.
@@TejashPatel-z2r Good for you, I don't care. OSMS and modern MS are two completely different games, it's a lot more than just a couple things people miss. The experience is a lot more focused and small-scale, and that's what a majority of people I've talked to miss about OSMS. It doesn't have to be a mirror image to be the same experience, just look at any unofficial server.
Because most liked other aspects of OSMS, for me it's basic exploration. Modern Maple got NO exploration, all maps are just glorified henesys hunting ground and and no puzzles/hidden maps/small details to be found.
I think that the identity of punching a monster when they are too close is horrible I hated it in WOW and hate it in osms it's an unnecessary restriction and a bad identity for aclass to have and is good it was removed
@@BakaReviews a ranged class is supposed to do ranged damage. Having them do that melee range as well makes no sense. You wanna talk about identity? That's identity. Look up the word in a dictionary
@ but why wouldn’t they just allow it to make everyone a ton of money and happiness? It’s a lot less work for them. It’s generally better to keep customers playing and make them happy, especially if it’s way easier as a business
eh, saying its the worst is a bit much I dont think it'd be that easy to make a game in whats basically a maplestory version of roblox, run exact servers as the original I think maplestory world has an extremely limited amount of players you can see at once, where as the real server is pretty much infinite. I think its pretty impressive how this allows you to straight up copy and paste old ms in the first place. I think that artale/mapleland will be will be a message to nexon about whether or not they should make an osms server. based on how popular itd actually become, it very possible.
The unofficial OSMS servers all allow multi-client, so half the server is full of afk players getting leech, and the other half are arch-mages selling leech. Despite how populated they are, there is very little activity in them. Artale, at least in it's current state, requires you to actually play!
I don't really want to support Nexon products and what you are saying is true. Playing on revival which doesnt allow multiclient is scratching that itch, although the trade off is peak population Ive seen is around 24 players.
The interesting part is I have interacted and made more friends and overall felt less lonely than in popular servers like legends or royals.
honestly unofficial servers gave the full maplestory experience already. I don't see a reason to play artale and the like. Leeching being a major issue not fixed in ANY maplestory server, I don't see it fixed in these old school servers and bishops giving more exp in a party than alone enables leeching more and more. The game has problems and until
now I don't see sane people fixing them.
@@S.O.N.E Glad to see a fellow Revival player here!
Howdy :>
Artale also has a leech limit too. You need to be within 5 levels of a player, or the monster, to leech, and you need to be actively attacking monsters, otherwise you don't get any leech.
50 player limited per channel is enough of a dealbreaker not to start
This is the most fun iv had on Maple since 2008.
Im so addicted!
true, im so addicted to Artale now
50 player limit per channel is enough of a reason not to play Artale
I've really been enjoying people making Artale content! ❤One thing i really hope for is to expand the servers. 50/50 is way too small. 😅
@@RickySama240 Ik that’s horrific. Defeats the entire purpose
I actually love it, with like 1,000 channels or more. with 50 max, means the best maps in the game dont have 30 people on each channel. I can farm for hours on the best maps solo and its wonderful. And unlike 2004, discord is a thing now. So you can still find parties to do content if you want to without sacrificing having that.
The change to punching as a ranged character is purely a good thing. Yes, it makes it so those classes don't go to suboptimal maps and can now go to the maps other players use. But also, the only reason archers had to use those maps is because this mechanic forces them there. No archer or assassin went to those maps because they liked to be there. They went there because there was no alternative.
From a balance standpoint it's highly debateable, whether you personally think it's purely a good thing or not. The tradeoff was always that there are also many, many maps where ranged classes excel at over melee due to the fact that they can sit in safe locations and clear platforms. Monkey Forest, Lost Time, Ghost Ship, countless other spots. You can debate both sides and it really comes down to your personal thoughts on balance. And I say all of this as someone who heavily played(plays) bowmaster and assassin.
There are a lot of issues with Artale, but the community for Maple worlds (mostly OSMS enjoyers) from what I have seen has got to be one of the worst I've seen in a pretty long time. People constantly demanding them to fix this fix that, yelling at them about how the game feels janky or how it isnt a true old school experience when hardly anyone can even agree on what features are important to the experience. Additionally, things like the custom worlds avatars are so minor and help support artale via their free pass in a very non intrusive way, so I hope they keep that.
Also, OSMS, in general, is quite awful. I really like that artale is doing their own thing, like fixing atrocious skill functionality and hopefully making bosses more interesting. there are certain janky things like not being able to drop items but overall I feel like Artale is in a position where they have to appease some of the most ungrateful people I've ever seen and anything they can do is pretty cool.
The only reason people are playing artale is because it's an official Nexon adjacent server. Objectively it's a poorly made server with tons of bugs and exploits, limitations. Defend it all you want but that's the objective truth. Compared to some of the other more modern private servers still in alpha like Maple Odyssey that aims to completely balance the skills and classes, Artale doesn't hold a candle. It doesn't even let Buccaneers, the shortest range class with zero damage reduction, s. Try playing a Bucc here. It's extremely clunky and pot heavy because of the lack of s. Not to mention the meso seller spammers and hackers. It's clear the Devs want to capitalize on the Global hype for a cash grab because the game in its current state is unacceptable.
@@kienmaple I'm having fun with Artale. I'm sorry mom burned your tendies.
@kienmaple you're acting like the devs are an established corporation. Is Artale perfect? No. Does it have to be? Also, no. It will improve over time, and it's still very early on in its lifeline. Maple worlds no doubt also poses its own set of challenges. Private servers are less restricted and have had way more time to develop. If you want to try your hand at that and risk the servers getting taken down or whatever else happens, be my guest. However, no one is forcing you to play Artale, and the staff there have 0 obligations to satisfy your nastalgia
@@KaiserPlays-rp1gn doesn't change the fact that it's a buggy, botter filled mess boo. I said the truth.
@SmokeyEdits I think it was actually your mom boo. My D was fire that night.
I'm following this up closely, watching videos every day waiting for the jank and UI to get fixed, before I start playing. but I want the party quest haha.
It definitely has some good characteristics. I think all but the most hardcore OSMS players know the game needs some tuning. Private servers and Artale both have positive changes. Auction house, auto loot, ways to get NX/gach for free, are all great changes IMO. That being said calling Artale 'official' seems disingenuous to me. Its something, and something is better than nothing, but alot of the charm/nostalgia people are desiring is coming from the old assets and artale at least currently falls flat IMO. Lastly yes HP washing being gone is a good thing but can we really say "they fixed it" before people are fighting end game bosses, to me its hard to say its fixed if eventually people get to zakum and get one shot. Thats not to say they should add Washing back, there should definitely me more quests/items that boost flat hp, so that end game gear gives you the defense/HP needed to live.
Hey there, Are still doing dexless, a thing for some of the classes like Warrior , or Full dex bowman necessary in Artale as to maximum the damage output? Thanks!
Dexless warrior is not fun...
@@hido...Lmao! Right? I’ll rather stay as a Beginner.
The secondaryless stat builds revolve around certain equip availability to cover the stat requirements you need normally, specifically maple weapons, and provide most of the benefit of increased power in 1 to 3rd job ranges.
there are no maple weapons currently in the server, ive heard mixed things on whether or not they will be released.
Mage is the only one that does Lukless, I believe using yellow umbrella, but you can also transition into low luck.
You can do low SS early on using certain weapons, and gear which provides secondary stat bonus to be able to equip your weapon without investing too much AP regularly. Which does give damage boost
I know it's used on assassin using the Meba. Also pirate, not sure about archer.
Warrior just just needs enough dex for accuracy to actually hit mobs, in combination with other accuracy sources. Dexless build would likely not work because there is not enough equips available that give outside accuracy bonuses.
The pay to win you mentioned although may make some uncomfortable, does encourage a healthier economy as long as there is an exchange between players. I play enough to have the meso to buy a AP reset token from a player. If by ugly truth you mean a more active player base then yes. You are correct. It allows casuals to feel like they can keep up in the game, and allows hardcore players to have access to the paid items for free. That just makes a better experience for everyone. I wouldn't wish any online game that has a precedence to keep up or be competitive to not allow a very affordable way to exchange gold from hardcore players into the hands of casuals VIA 2 dollar purchases.
if artale just fixes there ui its a great server.
It says mobile PC and that mobile worlds launched on 16th global but can't find it did not launch mobile?
Needed to download the apk of maple worlds plus vpn to play it on mobile... U might be in a region mapleworlds isnt available like me
I'm trying to play but the game keeps dcing me :/
I'm connected with a ethernet cable and I don't have a VPN so i I don't know what bug could be.
How do i play Artale?
Yeah the changing channels thing and taking forever and them being full is kinda meh. But other than that the game is fun
Great video
id be in big trouble if nexon made an official old school maple with no ptw and only cosmetics. good bye all my time and money to look cute
Someone Answer Me Pls
Is It P2W?
Nope and pet is buy once for life.
There is an argument for that it's slightly pay to win. People are allowed to trade world coin for meso or items. Honestly it's not necessary unless you're trying to make an OP assassin from the start. I'm finding as a page that scrolls are really affordable and I can find 60% for only a couple k. It's a good experience playing so far I haven't seen any over powered players that have obviously paid to win.
@@ghazisalman1884 you can buy mesos with WC. So yes in the end it is p2w
Yes,
I'll wait for an official version. If it doesn't come, it doesn't come!
It's not happening, the success of MapleLand in Korea is the nail in the coffin for any official made by Nexon osms server. Maplestory Worlds is as official as you're going to get.
Even if OSMS officially comes back. There needs to be no p2w and the anti cheat client needs to be better
@@SheepyMcSheeperton then I, personally, won't play. I just want the OG experience and I want to start around the same time as everyone else, ish. I feel like private servers are always trading one thing for another, etc.
@@godsu that a myth
hp washing is not a bug lol
Do you know if they plan to make it actually multiplayer and not a giant cockblock?
private servers are better tho
Thr problem is they ARE private tho
@@iTrapa I don't get it? You can log in and play, right? So it's not privately hidden from you, lol.
Admittedly I'm not an OSMS fan. But it makes me laugh how much some people go on about how they want OSMS because the game has changed so much but then like how Artale isn't a straight up OSMS remake 😂
For now, Artale is all the west has. We don't even know for sure if we're getting Maple Lands. OSMS was a rocky experience, so if you're wanting to play it consistently, some QoL changes aren't insane.
@SmokeyEdits imt not interested in OSMS at all. I like modern MS alot more. Just making an observation about people that want OSMS but don't actually want OSMS.
@@TejashPatel-z2r Good for you, I don't care. OSMS and modern MS are two completely different games, it's a lot more than just a couple things people miss. The experience is a lot more focused and small-scale, and that's what a majority of people I've talked to miss about OSMS. It doesn't have to be a mirror image to be the same experience, just look at any unofficial server.
@SmokeyEdits great for you. Most people ive spoke to go on and on about how much they really want OSMS and then hate half of the original stuff 🤣🤣🤣
Because most liked other aspects of OSMS, for me it's basic exploration.
Modern Maple got NO exploration, all maps are just glorified henesys hunting ground and and no puzzles/hidden maps/small details to be found.
I think that the identity of punching a monster when they are too close is horrible I hated it in WOW and hate it in osms it's an unnecessary restriction and a bad identity for aclass to have and is good it was removed
@@BakaReviews a ranged class is supposed to do ranged damage. Having them do that melee range as well makes no sense. You wanna talk about identity? That's identity. Look up the word in a dictionary
Lots of bots
Bro this server is the worst. There’s only 50 people per channel! So even though there’s thousands of players you’ll never play with anyone, it’s solo
Cry more
😊
@ but why wouldn’t they just allow it to make everyone a ton of money and happiness? It’s a lot less work for them. It’s generally better to keep customers playing and make them happy, especially if it’s way easier as a business
@ it’s literally a Roblox maplestory. U can’t get mad at that dude.
eh, saying its the worst is a bit much
I dont think it'd be that easy to make a game in whats basically a maplestory version of roblox, run exact servers as the original
I think maplestory world has an extremely limited amount of players you can see at once, where as the real server is pretty much infinite.
I think its pretty impressive how this allows you to straight up copy and paste old ms in the first place.
I think that artale/mapleland will be will be a message to nexon about whether or not they should make an osms server.
based on how popular itd actually become, it very possible.
It is 50 players per area tho, not globally. So if you’re in Orbis there will be 50 ppl in Orbis area