Mammotion Luba 2 (affiliate discount link) 👉 mikeobrienmedia.com/RobotMower So what do you think? Would you ever replace your lawn mower or lawn care provider with a robo mower?
Hrmmm... I like the _idea_ of a robot mower, but this sounds a bit like an alpha version. Also, how could you talk about 'is it loud?' and not let us hear the sound? 😂
I actually did. But hell, no mammotion. Got a husqvarna. I activate it in spring and take it back inside just before winter. I never ever have to touch my grass except on a couple of spots where it cannot go. Perfect lawn, zero lines in the lawn every single day. Whenever it breaks, I will buy another one in a heartbeat (since I love new technology, there is a bit of a problem there as Husqvarna ones tend to rarely break unless you wait for 10 years or so)
The cut on the lawn looks like hot garbage, inconstant and lumpy. Not enough vacuum to cut the lawn evenly. Ill sick to my R72 JD or my Honda Harmony 1011.
I bought the 1000 model initially. The area coverage prediction is the only thing I have an issue with. My lawn is 220sqm and it couldn't quite complete that without a recharge. Although the customer service was helpful it appears that the area claimed is very optimistic. Whilst it doesn't matter that it takes longer to complete by including a recharge, I decided to upgrade to the 3000 model. They accepted a return and refund with a free return using FedEx so no complaints with customer service. If they had been a little more realistic about the coverage capability to each model I would have gone for the 3000 model straightaway. Remember to keep the packaging as it is very necessary should you need to return it. Overall a brilliant product. My lawn has never looked better. PS. Refund paid within 4 days of pickup by FedEx so very good customer service.
i mean, as someone who been buying Electric mowers, etc last few years. i always went in assuming they were overshooting their range, and or run times..... i just feel if you are an adult...... you would, should do your homework. know these things. that said yes i do wish that all these companies and lets be real car dealerships too. would put avgs not just peak ranges..... very miss leading for the un informed. still nice to hear they worked with you. i really interested in something like this. 700, 800 for lawn care service gets old. be nice to have something like this pay for itself
I never expected the ranges (area covered) to be accurate but to claim 1000sqm and need a recharge at the 200sqm stage was a long way short. Subsequently the 3000 model managed to complete my 220sqm with 60% SOC remaining. This was adequate for my requirements but there is still a huge difference between quoted and achieved area covered.
I highly recommend staying away from mammotion. I have owned a version 1 Luba 5000 for a year now. The rubber seals around the cutting motors disintegrated within 6 months. I contacted mommotion. They wanted pictures, I sent ten pictures taken at different angles showing that the rubber seals are all shredded and disintegrating. That was over three months ago. I have tried connecting them again. By phone, I get put on hold and they NEVER come back after being on HIOLD for over THREE hours. I email them, no reply from a live person, only their automated reply system. I have been willing to buy the rubber seals, just cannot get anyone to talk to or reply to my emails. What good is saying you have a two year warranty and good C/S when there I absolutely no warranty and no customer service. So I am back to pushing a lawn mower and have a $3000 luba 5000 for a door stop for my shed. Luba is junk, stay way from this company, you will be throwing your monaway.
Sue them in your local small claims court. They won't even show up. But at least you can make them criminals when they don't pay. All EV companies are going to go belly up, no matter what they make. I'm shocked at you, you're supposed to be an adult. I mean really, razor blades for grass cutting blades? You'd of been better off using a brush hog line trimmer. This 3 grand was on you. Wow, you gave them 3 grand? Thanks for the post, it's exactly what I expected.
Are you serious? So they just ignore you? That means the warranty is useless. Can you take it back to the retailer and ask for a refund so they ship it back to the manufacturer to claim a full credit. Some retailers accept refunds and just RMA the unit back. The other option if they won't is can you try to repair it buy some replacement o rings as the rest of the unit still works. The engine and battery are still good so no reason to throw it out. Mechanically it's fine.
Wow! Possibly the best reviewer I have seen on RUclips. Mike has the rare talent to explain his thought process concisely and in a authentic manner. The Luba 2 review was terrific. So many questions I have thought were addressed in a direct and comprehensive manner. I am close to purchasing a robot mower. There seems to have been an burst of mowers that have come to market in the past 12 months. I'm anticipating a shake out both in quality and pricing within the next 1-2 years. This is a huge market waiting to explode. The company that gets just a little bit better can own this market. It seems there are a couple good contenders.
I checked out the price and seriously, I’m shocked. It’s cheaper than most wired mowers! Their tests seem pretty legit, but I already have one at home.
I've been using the first gen for 2+ months. Set up is tedious but once it's done, it works really well. I fired the landscape company since they destroyed my grass with the 800 Lbs zero turn mowers. Sod does not tolerate compaction... Yard maintenance companies are hugely incompetent in my experience. This allows you to fire them.
Yeah those industrial grade mowers are huge and heavy so they drive it around and definitely compact soil. But they also do aeration core removal so that should help.
Thank you for making this video. I may purchase one. If the mower is on the opposite side of the house from the RTK station then does it still get a signal? That is my main concern. Thanks again, Tom.
Their Support is non-existent. We’ve tried for weeks to get help for a Brand new Luba 2-there has been no email ticket response, nor any call backs by phone. The in-app Support offers no help either. Early Adopters: Dont Buy a Luba now they are still full of bugs and give no help
My experiences with the Luba 2 is that the robot is pretty awesome, but the app is clunky and has issues. I've also had some issues with my Luba not working as it should (not charging reliably, not resuming jobs after charging during a job), and trying to get tech support for it has been one of the most frustrating experiences of my life. I do believe they are working on both of these things, so hopefully they will continue to improve, but for now your experiences may vary greatly depending upon who you manage to get in contact with. After finally getting some help I'm hopeful that I can get my Luba working as it should but still not sure.
How much tree coverage do you have? With the original Luba, they recommended a pretty open lawn, but with the camera on the 2 i heard it handles the overhead cover better, and so far this is what I'm waiting to hear since i have a few bigger trees
This is the successor to my venerated "Yard-2 D2" (Worx Landroid) that served me fairly well for over 3 years. As soon as this hit the market, I bought it, and I can say it is better in every way. That old perimeter wire was the bane of my existence. Mine probably had 20 patches in it between utility workers digging and neighbors' mowers and even animals digging etc. Plus it took me almost a full day to install. Once I got the base station up, this took me less than an hour to "train." It almost never gets stuck where my old 2wd landroid would lose traction and just dig with the wheels until the battery died. Since I could only run the old perimeter wire through expansion joints in my driveway it left a large portion unusable for myself and guests, lest the dumb thing gets stuck under a car and run over. Now I designate a narrow corridor for it to cross the driveway, freeing it up for its intended use. Pattern mowing is a game changer. Its not some dumb random pattern that eventually catches everything. It's properly mowed and looks the part. While not perfect, I can't see anything wrong with my Luba2 "C-3P-Mow" that can't be fixed in software. Very pleased with mine
I hear and agree with you. I have Landroids with the perimeter wire and they served me well but it's time to move on. The Landroid Vision looks interesting, but that even requires more "wire" to prevent it from going into a neighbor's yard unlike this one.
Just bought one as our ride on needed replaced , hopefully works well 🤞🏻 for cost of fuel, maintenance vs time saved its a no brainer if you have a large lawn
The cost is nothing. just consider two things. 1.) if you buy a new riding zero turn radius mower you are paying 3-7k. 2.) If you buy a riding mower, you just bought a job every weekend for the summer.
I agree. If you can afford this, it's great! And far cheaper than riding mowers. For someone on a tighter budget though, a $350 push mower would make a strong argument against this (assuming the lawn is less than 10k square feet)
I have the Luba 1. I could never get it working effectively last summer, but after lots of software updates and moving my RTK it’s a lil champ this season so far.
@@tjones2002 I originally had my RTK mounted on the back of my house and routinely lost signal on the sides of my house. It’s now on my roof and I don’t lose signal at all.
⚠ CAUTION ⚠ Purchased new LUBA 2 AWD 10000 for $4178 Worked for 6 weeks, then stopped Support ticket created on May 20th Issues remain unresolved by Mammotion (45 days so far) Mower not able to complete a task properly. Mammotion not responded to warranty request for replacement Buyers beware, I’m certainly not the only one with this experience
6:35 Those blades appear to be reversable, so after a few months then they're blunt, unscrew and turn them around and you have a new sharp blade again. I have the same on my Moebot mower (which of course I named Moe!). Most robot mowers absolutely can run at night. If yours isn't returning home properly then it sounds like something is wrong, either software or maybe the mapping setup. The Moebot is priced from AUD $1000-1200 (USD 640-770) depending on the battery you choose which is based on the size of your yard (6,400-27,000 sq feet). Edges are more accurate with the boundary wire but you still have to whipper-snapper the last few inches if there's a vertical wall etc, tho if you have a garden or concrete you can avoid that. These last for years - so long as they're looked after. There's no oiling etc but you will need to change the blades at least annually. Mine runs daily in summer and weekly in winter and is into its 4th year.
Great review, thanks. The one thing it lacks, is the ability to mark an area, in an area, for it to mow. Most robot vacuums have this feature, but not the Mammotion Luba. The blades also jam and you have to spend a lot of time freeing them up.
Thanks for the video. I just purchased the Luba 2 AWD after seeing one that a neighbor owns and it seems to do a phenomenal job. It’s still in the box and I intend to set it up this weekend. The main question that I have is where can you get real instructions? The manual has great pictures and almost no words. For instance, where is it recommended that I set up the wall mount? Seems like yours is high near the roof (which makes sense) but still if they would describe a preferred location it would be nice
This was a super great video describing the lawnmower. I currently have a word landroid. It sounds like a combination of an edge wire and the lubo to get a really tight edge.. I like being able to adjust the edge by moving the wire and it lets me have a tight boundary, to stop the need to line trim.
Any idea of how the Luba 2 compares to the Orion X7 ?? Any idea of how good Mammotion Customer Service is? What do you do if it breaks? Are there local repair shops or does it have to be shipped to a central location?
Very good and informative video. You're making me consider getting one, even though I have guys doing my lawn. Now, if they only can invent an automatic fertilizer dispenser to even out your lawn… No offense 😊
Regarding "Stealing" .. the Luba-2 has a build in LORA chip for communication with the LORA network. which makes it trackable for the vendor. You can see that chip in the app. This is also described in the support options - in case it get's stolen you could contact Mammotion and they will try to figure out where it actually is. Of course if somebody sell's it a spare parts .. it would be gone anyway ;-)
Thank you for this great review. I have a large property with lots of steep hills and tree cover and two separate lawns. This could be a huge time saver for me, but I am concerned about signal coverage. Can you have multiple RTK units for one Luba? I am debating purchasing their largest units, or two smaller ones (one for each lawn) or waiting another year.
Have an electric cub cadet XT2 sit on mower with a failed cutting deck and a common error, some electronic fault. The warranty ran out and the lazy repair place just wants to charge for two new motors around 1800 dollars. I don't feel like paying that for equipment that barely lasted two years. So now I'm looking at alternatives for the surface area I have... You're right, I think if the robot lasts 2-3 years, it pays for itself.
I would like to have one. Not sure if it would work for me. I can dream for one but can’t justify the purchase. I now cut my grass every 3 days. Thanks for your info.
I can’t believe there’s a wireless robot mower for that price on Kickstarter. Kinda sketchy, but their video actually made it look real. Still debating if I should go for it.
Cool. But it´s useless unless it´s 100% hands-off, which it isn´t. There´s almost as much work involved as with a classic mower. Still need to trim the edges. I can push my gas mower completely flush with the wall, and it has enough power to ´´suck in´´ the grass, no need to trim. It can suck up small debris, there´s no need to pick that stuff up. It has a mulching function too. And those little razor blades on robot mowers dull fast, you constantly need to keep replacing them because they don´t spin fast enough to cut the grass with dull blades. And with almost $3000, i could just pay a landscaping company (or a local kid) $100 a month for 3-4 years to do it all for me and be truly hands-off. I don´t expect the lifespan of these devices to be much longer either. Anyway, pushing a lawnmower around is a great way to get my daily steps in, so i´ll just keep doing it :)
>sucks in grass No, trimming the edges is always needed. Also, this runs frequently for a consistent lawn. Good luck paying someone $100 a month for 8+ mows. Exercise? I prefer to burn my calories (and time) in more fun forms like BJJ.
If you edit a task, you can select path configuration and modify the cutting path angle to 45 degrees. If you don't see that option, perhaps your app needs to be updated?
Don't waste your money. Virtually they have no customer support and they don't honor warranties. My power supply is dead and it has been months no solution.
Battery life - I would rather have the mower recharging fully to 100% than recharging to a smaller % and having to replace the battery in 12 months time. Security - there is a dedicated storage space for an AirTag. Hope that helps?
Here are my comments you didn't talk about: 1. It is better not to do the lawn when it is raining as the grass builds up around the blades under the deck and you will get a stuck cutting motor or the performance will degrade. 2. The fact it does not pick up the cut off grass, it means when you walk through the lawn, you always have grass clippings that will stick to your shoes, and you will bring it back home. 3. Better don't cut the grass before it is noon time as the dawn makes the grass wet and you are back to point number 1. 4. The robot is unable to handle very small area's. 5. It is not only branches that are a problem, also mole hills. They can make the robot get stuck. 6. The software is not multi user. If someone logs in with the same account, the other one will be kicked out or will see something that the robot has lost connection. Why not make it multi user and if you change anything, the other user will go into read only mode. 7. You better have a very good wifi coverage all over the lawn area. If not, you will need a sim card to compensate the loss of signal. It means extra charges and costs 8. It is not wild life friendly as it will kill eagles and other animals. This could be avoided if the front camera would also detect warm blood animals and has a thermal camera sensor 9. The Luba cuts the lawn very slowly. I have the 5000 version, but my lawn is only half of this size. I thing their 5000m² claim is overrated. 10. What about battery life. What is the cost of a new battery. Knowing that a li-ion battery has a lifespan of 500 recharge cycle. So if you have a 2500 m² lawn for a 5000m² luba version, I suppose you will need a battery replacement every year and a half. I haven't seen any information yet regarding replacement batteries. 11. They should have used non sticky, water repellent coating on the robot and under the deck. 12. The blade disk and the blade are not protected! I have see the ones of Husqvarna having a metal disk that spins independently from the main cutting disk. So the blades get full impact when it drives over branches, stones, or other obstacles. 13. Due to the fact there is no protective disk under the cutting disk, the screws heads of the screws might tear off and you end up to have issues to remove these screws when a replacement needs to be done. 14. The cost price of electricity is a fraction of the cost price of the fuel you have to spend on a traditional combustion lawn mower or tractor. 15. The front bumper has a cover and the bumper itself. A fence wire might get stuck between the white front bumper plastic and the bumper itself. I am not sure what is the durability of this white section of the front bumper. I'm surprised they haven't thought of having the white cover of the font bumper not going all around the edges of the main front bumper so a fence wire would not get stuck in between. 16. Keep in mind, the RTK needs a 160° horizon view to get it working correctly. If you have a tick tree garden, you might get into issues. Also keep in mind it is better to take the RTK inside during winter season or if there is a storm. This means, remapping your lawn again. 17. Keep in mind, your mower also need a very good satellite view. So if you are surrounded with many houses, apartments, or other objects, it might not work efficiently. If it has low positioning, the mower STOPS working Overall, I love my Luba, but I think there are some improvements in design. The software can also improved, but overall, it is the best robot lawn mower out there and I hope they will keep on improving the design but also the software
Those grass button and home button works but you have to press start button afterwards for it work. Ex. If you press home button then start button it will go to charging station
Hi. I'm not sure if I'm just not seeing the info somewhere. But which model did you get exactly? You mention around @8:15 that your lawn is around 7000-8000 sq ft. As such, did you got for the 1000 model, which is supposed to cover ~10800 sq ft. ? Or did you go for the 3000 model to give yourself some extra margin? I would think the 3000 model would be capable of doing your entire lawn in one pass. That might also answer my own question. I have 33000 sq ft., which is 0.758 acre. That's slightly above the 3000 range. So would I be stretching the limit of the 3000? I'm thinking I might just suck it up and spend an extra $300 to buy the 5000.
@@MikeOBrienMedia Wow. Ok. And it still needs charging to finish the job! I pulled the trigger today, and I now wonder if I made a mistake in ordering the 3000 myself, given my property is 3080m2. If your 3000 still needs charging for a 745m2 lawn, I might need like 3 changes to do mine!
@@enriquebenedicto9429 Looking at the mow time and charge time, the 3000 model and up all have the same battery. The only difference seems to be a software limitation (possibly hardware) in the amount of memory storage for pathing. I think you made the right choice, but it is disappointing that it takes so long to mow and can't do it at night, and not even spending more money (on a bigger model) can avoid the problem.
It is a pity that the camera does not have night vision. I currently own an Husqvarna (since 2015) robot mower with perimeter wire. Very happy about it but it is getting old. We really like the mower to operate 6pm to 9am so that during the day we can be outside without it disturbing us (does not have a camera and will not avoid obstacles unless bumbing into them). Next one will be a no perimeter wire one, but would still prefer it to work at night.,
I think they have some more expensive models with infrared so it can see in the dark or low light. It also depends on the terrain. If it's a simple rectangular lawn that's fairly well maintained then it should be pretty easy even without light.
Can you check out airseekers Tron robotic mower. I'm thinking about it. It's fairly new but it's fairly well thought out. I do like your reviewing style.... Thank you Steve
Product might be good, but their idea of customer service is awful. They took payment and are now refusing to ship because they want more money first! An extra £350 after purchase! It's just an insane situation
I've had mine for 3 weeks. Does have GPS. if someone tries stealing it, the app should let you know it's leaving your designated area. To use the physical buttons you have to press home then start. They do this, so something bumps the buttons it won't automatically go home. I am 50/50 on this unit and think it fits a more suburban back yard. I don't think there is much of a reliability difference between luba 1 and 2. I feel as if the cameras don't do anything. It's slow to cut. I have the 5000h and my backyard is 2/3rd of an acres it takes 1 full day plus some of the next to cut. I can sacrifice the cut quality to speed up mow time. The problem I really have is when it rains for 2 days on and off let the grass dry for a day. The luba barely can cut the lawn again at my desired height. I have to mow the same area multiple times, lower the height each time to get the desired height. It could take most of the week to do just my back lawn. I think for people under .5 acres or your typical suburban backyard. When you start getting into bigger yards for the price I think it is starting to slack a little. I think battery life and cutting speed/power should be a bit more than what you get. I pulled mine off the charger to do a 5 minute perimeter line change it took 15% of the battery. I think this unit is 80% there to being in everyone's lawn. For the price I think you should get more. 1k to 1.5k I'd be happy with it. For 3k after taxes and what not I am not 100% satisfied. If I was on the fence about one, I'd wait 1-2 more years. Seems like technology is moving fast with robot lawn mowers. I had one of the first robot vacuums. Thing would roll down my stairs. Now I have one that mops, Cleans itself, and is 200 times better at cleaning the floors. That was in 10 years ish.
As of today, 7/22/2024, the Mammotion app will not open on Android. That means nothing can be mowed. We reinstalled the app and it still will not open. Any ideas?
Question I have is this...I have 3 big dogs. You talk about having to pick up sticks and pine cones, what about dog poop? What will this Luba 2 do when it runs into a large #2 from a dog? If I like the answer to my question, I'm gonna own another robot. I have 2. One for in ground pool, and vacuum for the house!
Indeed, in my area I can have a professional lawn service mow my small lawn for several years (probably longer than the life of this device) for the same price of one of these.
@@billkissick6268 I dont know. I have a lawn with a lot of elevation change. 4000m2. My 2 hand movers cost 7k together and with two people i have to work 3 hours. This just does it. A riding mower is not able to cut most of my lawn because if the elevation change. This thing doesnt care. Idk if its worth it, but honestly 2999€ for the Luba 2 awd is cheaper than a riding mower🤷🏽♂️ or the same price. And every time i mow i use 10 € worth of gas. Sure its a risk and i am still jot sure if i want to buy it, but it is very promising and i feel like the price is decent.
Maybe just me, but it did not look on the video to be mowing the lawn. Very cool item though, kindof reminds me of a turtle (which would make a cool name for a battery automated mower).
I really want to buy this, but at $3K, I need to make sure it actually does what I want. I currently have a Worx Landroid L and the thing is a nightmare. Rarely does it cut more than an hour before getting stuck somewhere. This seems to be a lot better with its AWD and omni wheel.s The heavy weight, to me, is a benefit. I want something sturdy mowing my lawn. I'll do more research, but I may pull the trigger on this.
No, it continued to get lost in the middle of a properly mapped area, presumably because the house blocked the signal. Other robo mowers did not have this issue
Product might be good but there idea of customer service is awful, they took payment and are now refusing to ship because they want more money first! An extra £350 after purchase! Just an insane situation
The downside of these short term reviews is they don’t detail the battery life after 1-5 years. I would say that’s my biggest fear with these (my robot vacuum doesn’t inspire confidence)
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So what do you think? Would you ever replace your lawn mower or lawn care provider with a robo mower?
Hrmmm... I like the _idea_ of a robot mower, but this sounds a bit like an alpha version. Also, how could you talk about 'is it loud?' and not let us hear the sound? 😂
Your lawn is lumpier than a giant bag of nuts!
I actually did. But hell, no mammotion. Got a husqvarna. I activate it in spring and take it back inside just before winter. I never ever have to touch my grass except on a couple of spots where it cannot go. Perfect lawn, zero lines in the lawn every single day. Whenever it breaks, I will buy another one in a heartbeat (since I love new technology, there is a bit of a problem there as Husqvarna ones tend to rarely break unless you wait for 10 years or so)
The cut on the lawn looks like hot garbage, inconstant and lumpy. Not enough vacuum to cut the lawn evenly. Ill sick to my R72 JD or my Honda Harmony 1011.
Lubas are nothing but a piece of junk to STEAL your money.
I bought the 1000 model initially. The area coverage prediction is the only thing I have an issue with. My lawn is 220sqm and it couldn't quite complete that without a recharge. Although the customer service was helpful it appears that the area claimed is very optimistic. Whilst it doesn't matter that it takes longer to complete by including a recharge, I decided to upgrade to the 3000 model. They accepted a return and refund with a free return using FedEx so no complaints with customer service. If they had been a little more realistic about the coverage capability to each model I would have gone for the 3000 model straightaway. Remember to keep the packaging as it is very necessary should you need to return it.
Overall a brilliant product. My lawn has never looked better.
PS. Refund paid within 4 days of pickup by FedEx so very good customer service.
So they ripped you off once, and you happily stood in line to be ripped off again. I'm curious, did you take the vax too?
i mean, as someone who been buying Electric mowers, etc last few years. i always went in assuming they were overshooting their range, and or run times.....
i just feel if you are an adult...... you would, should do your homework. know these things.
that said yes i do wish that all these companies and lets be real car dealerships too. would put avgs not just peak ranges..... very miss leading for the un informed.
still nice to hear they worked with you. i really interested in something like this. 700, 800 for lawn care service gets old. be nice to have something like this pay for itself
I never expected the ranges (area covered) to be accurate but to claim 1000sqm and need a recharge at the 200sqm stage was a long way short. Subsequently the 3000 model managed to complete my 220sqm with 60% SOC remaining. This was adequate for my requirements but there is still a huge difference between quoted and achieved area covered.
@@NotHappening-b8t Try paying for plowing snow. 800 for lawn care is cheap.
I think these things are good for small lawns. I don't think it can handle large areas.
I highly recommend staying away from mammotion. I have owned a version 1 Luba 5000 for a year now. The rubber seals around the cutting motors disintegrated within 6 months. I contacted mommotion. They wanted pictures, I sent ten pictures taken at different angles showing that the rubber seals are all shredded and disintegrating. That was over three months ago. I have tried connecting them again. By phone, I get put on hold and they NEVER come back after being on HIOLD for over THREE hours. I email them, no reply from a live person, only their automated reply system. I have been willing to buy the rubber seals, just cannot get anyone to talk to or reply to my emails. What good is saying you have a two year warranty and good C/S when there I absolutely no warranty and no customer service. So I am back to pushing a lawn mower and have a $3000 luba 5000 for a door stop for my shed. Luba is junk, stay way from this company, you will be throwing your monaway.
Sue them in your local small claims court. They won't even show up. But at least you can make them criminals when they don't pay. All EV companies are going to go belly up, no matter what they make. I'm shocked at you, you're supposed to be an adult. I mean really, razor blades for grass cutting blades? You'd of been better off using a brush hog line trimmer. This 3 grand was on you. Wow, you gave them 3 grand? Thanks for the post, it's exactly what I expected.
Are you serious? So they just ignore you? That means the warranty is useless. Can you take it back to the retailer and ask for a refund so they ship it back to the manufacturer to claim a full credit. Some retailers accept refunds and just RMA the unit back. The other option if they won't is can you try to repair it buy some replacement o rings as the rest of the unit still works. The engine and battery are still good so no reason to throw it out. Mechanically it's fine.
@@dannysdailyswow you really typed yourself into a tizzy there😂 was your blood sugar low?
@@cheefussmith9380 Oh I don't know. I just hate being ripped off. What do ya thank.
@@jonfreeman9682 It uses razor blades for lawn cutters!
Wow! Possibly the best reviewer I have seen on RUclips. Mike has the rare talent to explain his thought process concisely and in a authentic manner. The Luba 2 review was terrific. So many questions I have thought were addressed in a direct and comprehensive manner. I am close to purchasing a robot mower. There seems to have been an burst of mowers that have come to market in the past 12 months. I'm anticipating a shake out both in quality and pricing within the next 1-2 years. This is a huge market waiting to explode. The company that gets just a little bit better can own this market. It seems there are a couple good contenders.
Comprehensive review, thanks. I've been waiting for the Luba2 - think this has made my mind up.
I checked out the price and seriously, I’m shocked. It’s cheaper than most wired mowers! Their tests seem pretty legit, but I already have one at home.
I've been using the first gen for 2+ months. Set up is tedious but once it's done, it works really well. I fired the landscape company since they destroyed my grass with the 800 Lbs zero turn mowers. Sod does not tolerate compaction... Yard maintenance companies are hugely incompetent in my experience. This allows you to fire them.
Yeah those industrial grade mowers are huge and heavy so they drive it around and definitely compact soil. But they also do aeration core removal so that should help.
Thank you for making this video. I may purchase one. If the mower is on the opposite side of the house from the RTK station then does it still get a signal? That is my main concern. Thanks again, Tom.
Their Support is non-existent. We’ve tried for weeks to get help for a Brand new Luba 2-there has been no email ticket response, nor any call backs by phone. The in-app Support offers no help either. Early Adopters: Dont Buy a Luba now they are still full of bugs and give no help
My experiences with the Luba 2 is that the robot is pretty awesome, but the app is clunky and has issues. I've also had some issues with my Luba not working as it should (not charging reliably, not resuming jobs after charging during a job), and trying to get tech support for it has been one of the most frustrating experiences of my life. I do believe they are working on both of these things, so hopefully they will continue to improve, but for now your experiences may vary greatly depending upon who you manage to get in contact with. After finally getting some help I'm hopeful that I can get my Luba working as it should but still not sure.
Got a Gardena 750 at the end of last year… best time saver and lets me look after the rest better 😊
How much tree coverage do you have? With the original Luba, they recommended a pretty open lawn, but with the camera on the 2 i heard it handles the overhead cover better, and so far this is what I'm waiting to hear since i have a few bigger trees
This is the successor to my venerated "Yard-2 D2" (Worx Landroid) that served me fairly well for over 3 years. As soon as this hit the market, I bought it, and I can say it is better in every way. That old perimeter wire was the bane of my existence. Mine probably had 20 patches in it between utility workers digging and neighbors' mowers and even animals digging etc. Plus it took me almost a full day to install.
Once I got the base station up, this took me less than an hour to "train." It almost never gets stuck where my old 2wd landroid would lose traction and just dig with the wheels until the battery died. Since I could only run the old perimeter wire through expansion joints in my driveway it left a large portion unusable for myself and guests, lest the dumb thing gets stuck under a car and run over. Now I designate a narrow corridor for it to cross the driveway, freeing it up for its intended use.
Pattern mowing is a game changer. Its not some dumb random pattern that eventually catches everything. It's properly mowed and looks the part.
While not perfect, I can't see anything wrong with my Luba2 "C-3P-Mow" that can't be fixed in software. Very pleased with mine
I hear and agree with you. I have Landroids with the perimeter wire and they served me well but it's time to move on. The Landroid Vision looks interesting, but that even requires more "wire" to prevent it from going into a neighbor's yard unlike this one.
Just bought one as our ride on needed replaced , hopefully works well 🤞🏻 for cost of fuel, maintenance vs time saved its a no brainer if you have a large lawn
The cost is nothing. just consider two things. 1.) if you buy a new riding zero turn radius mower you are paying 3-7k. 2.) If you buy a riding mower, you just bought a job every weekend for the summer.
I agree. If you can afford this, it's great! And far cheaper than riding mowers. For someone on a tighter budget though, a $350 push mower would make a strong argument against this (assuming the lawn is less than 10k square feet)
facts yeah... And it will get better with software updates
I have the Luba 1. I could never get it working effectively last summer, but after lots of software updates and moving my RTK it’s a lil champ this season so far.
Hi. What issues did you have with the RTK? I am curious if it will still communicate with the mower when it is on the opposite side of the house?
@@tjones2002 I originally had my RTK mounted on the back of my house and routinely lost signal on the sides of my house. It’s now on my roof and I don’t lose signal at all.
@@blondy2061h thank you for your reply. That information is very helpful in considering what type of a robot mower is practical.
⚠ CAUTION ⚠
Purchased new LUBA 2 AWD 10000 for $4178
Worked for 6 weeks, then stopped
Support ticket created on May 20th
Issues remain unresolved by Mammotion (45 days so far)
Mower not able to complete a task properly.
Mammotion not responded to warranty request for replacement
Buyers beware, I’m certainly not the only one with this experience
I don't have a lawn; why am I watching this video? Anyway, nice review
Hahaha I appreciate it! Thanks for watching the video!
You could just take it for a walk 😀
buy it and rent it out to a neighbor, friend, family member. easy money lol
And that's why you need to buy a lawn to try out this bad boy.
6:35 Those blades appear to be reversable, so after a few months then they're blunt, unscrew and turn them around and you have a new sharp blade again. I have the same on my Moebot mower (which of course I named Moe!).
Most robot mowers absolutely can run at night. If yours isn't returning home properly then it sounds like something is wrong, either software or maybe the mapping setup. The Moebot is priced from AUD $1000-1200 (USD 640-770) depending on the battery you choose which is based on the size of your yard (6,400-27,000 sq feet). Edges are more accurate with the boundary wire but you still have to whipper-snapper the last few inches if there's a vertical wall etc, tho if you have a garden or concrete you can avoid that. These last for years - so long as they're looked after. There's no oiling etc but you will need to change the blades at least annually. Mine runs daily in summer and weekly in winter and is into its 4th year.
When they get this mower fully sorted out I will be buying one.
Great review, thanks. The one thing it lacks, is the ability to mark an area, in an area, for it to mow. Most robot vacuums have this feature, but not the Mammotion Luba. The blades also jam and you have to spend a lot of time freeing them up.
Does it remember where it last mowed? So if it needs to charge or the yard is too large, will it continue from the spot it left off at? Thank you.
Thanks for the video. I just purchased the Luba 2 AWD after seeing one that a neighbor owns and it seems to do a phenomenal job. It’s still in the box and I intend to set it up this weekend. The main question that I have is where can you get real instructions? The manual has great pictures and almost no words. For instance, where is it recommended that I set up the wall mount? Seems like yours is high near the roof (which makes sense) but still if they would describe a preferred location it would be nice
This was a super great video describing the lawnmower. I currently have a word landroid. It sounds like a combination of an edge wire and the lubo to get a really tight edge.. I like being able to adjust the edge by moving the wire and it lets me have a tight boundary, to stop the need to line trim.
I have a lot of pine straw / grass borders for 15 flowerbeds …. Does it do well following curved pine staw / grass borders ?
Any idea of how the Luba 2 compares to the Orion X7 ?? Any idea of how good Mammotion Customer Service is? What do you do if it breaks? Are there local repair shops or does it have to be shipped to a central location?
Very good and informative video. You're making me consider getting one, even though I have guys doing my lawn. Now, if they only can invent an automatic fertilizer dispenser to even out your lawn… No offense 😊
Regarding "Stealing" .. the Luba-2 has a build in LORA chip for communication with the LORA network. which makes it trackable for the vendor. You can see that chip in the app. This is also described in the support options - in case it get's stolen you could contact Mammotion and they will try to figure out where it actually is. Of course if somebody sell's it a spare parts .. it would be gone anyway ;-)
The Luba 2 also has a dedicated spot for an AirTag
What model is this? You said $2800 so I assume a AWD 5000.... It took 8-10hr for 8000 sqft?
Thank you for this great review. I have a large property with lots of steep hills and tree cover and two separate lawns. This could be a huge time saver for me, but I am concerned about signal coverage. Can you have multiple RTK units for one Luba? I am debating purchasing their largest units, or two smaller ones (one for each lawn) or waiting another year.
Thanks for the review! Still looking for something a bit more affordable.
Have an electric cub cadet XT2 sit on mower with a failed cutting deck and a common error, some electronic fault. The warranty ran out and the lazy repair place just wants to charge for two new motors around 1800 dollars. I don't feel like paying that for equipment that barely lasted two years. So now I'm looking at alternatives for the surface area I have... You're right, I think if the robot lasts 2-3 years, it pays for itself.
Can you use this if you are out of town? ie does the app on the phone and the mower need Sri be in the same place?
I would like to have one. Not sure if it would work for me. I can dream for one but can’t justify the purchase. I now cut my grass every 3 days. Thanks for your info.
I have a robot mower, but it requires a boundary wire. It' a LanDroid and I just haven't gotten around to laying the wire.
currently in the market there are some lidar models, is it better than RTK?
Is the deck of this mower made of metal or plastic. I was wondering about the longevity of the mower. And how much are the replacement blades?
Will it avoid dog shit??
What are the exact dimensions out of the box? Need to know if fits in a big luggage
Yeah, I saw that too! Can it really be that cheap?
I can’t believe there’s a wireless robot mower for that price on Kickstarter. Kinda sketchy, but their video actually made it look real. Still debating if I should go for it.
Cool. But it´s useless unless it´s 100% hands-off, which it isn´t. There´s almost as much work involved as with a classic mower. Still need to trim the edges. I can push my gas mower completely flush with the wall, and it has enough power to ´´suck in´´ the grass, no need to trim. It can suck up small debris, there´s no need to pick that stuff up. It has a mulching function too. And those little razor blades on robot mowers dull fast, you constantly need to keep replacing them because they don´t spin fast enough to cut the grass with dull blades. And with almost $3000, i could just pay a landscaping company (or a local kid) $100 a month for 3-4 years to do it all for me and be truly hands-off. I don´t expect the lifespan of these devices to be much longer either.
Anyway, pushing a lawnmower around is a great way to get my daily steps in, so i´ll just keep doing it :)
>sucks in grass
No, trimming the edges is always needed. Also, this runs frequently for a consistent lawn. Good luck paying someone $100 a month for 8+ mows. Exercise? I prefer to burn my calories (and time) in more fun forms like BJJ.
How do you change to diagonal cut? I can’t figure it out on mine 🤷🏻♂️
If you edit a task, you can select path configuration and modify the cutting path angle to 45 degrees. If you don't see that option, perhaps your app needs to be updated?
Don't waste your money. Virtually they have no customer support and they don't honor warranties. My power supply is dead and it has been months no solution.
What happens if there is leaf and three branches ?
I just wonder where the grass was cut? How it collects the grass it cut?
It doesn't, essential mulch
That's a big lawn! How do u empty the mower?
There is nothing to empty. The mower only cuts about a quarter inch of grass at a time so the blades never need to be collected
Battery life - I would rather have the mower recharging fully to 100% than recharging to a smaller % and having to replace the battery in 12 months time. Security - there is a dedicated storage space for an AirTag. Hope that helps?
Here are my comments you didn't talk about:
1. It is better not to do the lawn when it is raining as the grass builds up around the blades under the deck and you will get a stuck cutting motor or the performance will degrade.
2. The fact it does not pick up the cut off grass, it means when you walk through the lawn, you always have grass clippings that will stick to your shoes, and you will bring it back home.
3. Better don't cut the grass before it is noon time as the dawn makes the grass wet and you are back to point number 1.
4. The robot is unable to handle very small area's.
5. It is not only branches that are a problem, also mole hills. They can make the robot get stuck.
6. The software is not multi user. If someone logs in with the same account, the other one will be kicked out or will see something that the robot has lost connection. Why not make it multi user and if you change anything, the other user will go into read only mode.
7. You better have a very good wifi coverage all over the lawn area. If not, you will need a sim card to compensate the loss of signal. It means extra charges and costs
8. It is not wild life friendly as it will kill eagles and other animals. This could be avoided if the front camera would also detect warm blood animals and has a thermal camera sensor
9. The Luba cuts the lawn very slowly. I have the 5000 version, but my lawn is only half of this size. I thing their 5000m² claim is overrated.
10. What about battery life. What is the cost of a new battery. Knowing that a li-ion battery has a lifespan of 500 recharge cycle. So if you have a 2500 m² lawn for a 5000m² luba version, I suppose you will need a battery replacement every year and a half. I haven't seen any information yet regarding replacement batteries.
11. They should have used non sticky, water repellent coating on the robot and under the deck.
12. The blade disk and the blade are not protected! I have see the ones of Husqvarna having a metal disk that spins independently from the main cutting disk. So the blades get full impact when it drives over branches, stones, or other obstacles.
13. Due to the fact there is no protective disk under the cutting disk, the screws heads of the screws might tear off and you end up to have issues to remove these screws when a replacement needs to be done.
14. The cost price of electricity is a fraction of the cost price of the fuel you have to spend on a traditional combustion lawn mower or tractor.
15. The front bumper has a cover and the bumper itself. A fence wire might get stuck between the white front bumper plastic and the bumper itself. I am not sure what is the durability of this white section of the front bumper. I'm surprised they haven't thought of having the white cover of the font bumper not going all around the edges of the main front bumper so a fence wire would not get stuck in between.
16. Keep in mind, the RTK needs a 160° horizon view to get it working correctly. If you have a tick tree garden, you might get into issues. Also keep in mind it is better to take the RTK inside during winter season or if there is a storm. This means, remapping your lawn again.
17. Keep in mind, your mower also need a very good satellite view. So if you are surrounded with many houses, apartments, or other objects, it might not work efficiently. If it has low positioning, the mower STOPS working
Overall, I love my Luba, but I think there are some improvements in design. The software can also improved, but overall, it is the best robot lawn mower out there and I hope they will keep on improving the design but also the software
What if there's a branch in the way
Those grass button and home button works but you have to press start button afterwards for it work. Ex. If you press home button then start button it will go to charging station
Good to know. I always just use the app anyway
1:23 "Why am I inside? This feels weird!" -Dug.
Is it worth it?
Great job on the review! 👏
Awesome review! Just wish it was a bit cheaper for my budget right now. 😅
Hi. I'm not sure if I'm just not seeing the info somewhere. But which model did you get exactly? You mention around @8:15 that your lawn is around 7000-8000 sq ft. As such, did you got for the 1000 model, which is supposed to cover ~10800 sq ft. ? Or did you go for the 3000 model to give yourself some extra margin? I would think the 3000 model would be capable of doing your entire lawn in one pass. That might also answer my own question. I have 33000 sq ft., which is 0.758 acre. That's slightly above the 3000 range. So would I be stretching the limit of the 3000? I'm thinking I might just suck it up and spend an extra $300 to buy the 5000.
I have the Luba 2 AWD 3000 H
And you are correct, I forgot to mention that in the video. Thank you!
@@MikeOBrienMedia Wow. Ok. And it still needs charging to finish the job!
I pulled the trigger today, and I now wonder if I made a mistake in ordering the 3000 myself, given my property is 3080m2. If your 3000 still needs charging for a 745m2 lawn, I might need like 3 changes to do mine!
@@enriquebenedicto9429 Looking at the mow time and charge time, the 3000 model and up all have the same battery. The only difference seems to be a software limitation (possibly hardware) in the amount of memory storage for pathing.
I think you made the right choice, but it is disappointing that it takes so long to mow and can't do it at night, and not even spending more money (on a bigger model) can avoid the problem.
Sooo… does it detect 🐶💩?
It is a pity that the camera does not have night vision. I currently own an Husqvarna (since 2015) robot mower with perimeter wire. Very happy about it but it is getting old. We really like the mower to operate 6pm to 9am so that during the day we can be outside without it disturbing us (does not have a camera and will not avoid obstacles unless bumbing into them). Next one will be a no perimeter wire one, but would still prefer it to work at night.,
I think they have some more expensive models with infrared so it can see in the dark or low light. It also depends on the terrain. If it's a simple rectangular lawn that's fairly well maintained then it should be pretty easy even without light.
Can you check out airseekers Tron robotic mower. I'm thinking about it. It's fairly new but it's fairly well thought out. I do like your reviewing style.... Thank you Steve
Product might be good, but their idea of customer service is awful. They took payment and are now refusing to ship because they want more money first! An extra £350 after purchase! It's just an insane situation
I've had mine for 3 weeks. Does have GPS. if someone tries stealing it, the app should let you know it's leaving your designated area. To use the physical buttons you have to press home then start. They do this, so something bumps the buttons it won't automatically go home. I am 50/50 on this unit and think it fits a more suburban back yard. I don't think there is much of a reliability difference between luba 1 and 2. I feel as if the cameras don't do anything. It's slow to cut. I have the 5000h and my backyard is 2/3rd of an acres it takes 1 full day plus some of the next to cut. I can sacrifice the cut quality to speed up mow time. The problem I really have is when it rains for 2 days on and off let the grass dry for a day. The luba barely can cut the lawn again at my desired height. I have to mow the same area multiple times, lower the height each time to get the desired height. It could take most of the week to do just my back lawn. I think for people under .5 acres or your typical suburban backyard. When you start getting into bigger yards for the price I think it is starting to slack a little. I think battery life and cutting speed/power should be a bit more than what you get. I pulled mine off the charger to do a 5 minute perimeter line change it took 15% of the battery. I think this unit is 80% there to being in everyone's lawn. For the price I think you should get more. 1k to 1.5k I'd be happy with it. For 3k after taxes and what not I am not 100% satisfied. If I was on the fence about one, I'd wait 1-2 more years. Seems like technology is moving fast with robot lawn mowers. I had one of the first robot vacuums. Thing would roll down my stairs. Now I have one that mops, Cleans itself, and is 200 times better at cleaning the floors. That was in 10 years ish.
Very well said
I. NEED. IT.
It's a good year to buy one. They're finally getting good and it's so nice to have fresh lawn lines everyday
This thing is cool. An irobot for your lawn.
Yeah I have been watching the development of these things for the past six years and I am glad they are finally good enough to use and recommend!
@@MikeOBrienMedia Oh yeah for sure. It was only a matter of time before somebody came up with the idea of a robot for your lawn.
As of today, 7/22/2024, the Mammotion app will not open on Android. That means nothing can be mowed. We reinstalled the app and it still will not open. Any ideas?
Question I have is this...I have 3 big dogs. You talk about having to pick up sticks and pine cones, what about dog poop? What will this Luba 2 do when it runs into a large #2 from a dog? If I like the answer to my question, I'm gonna own another robot. I have 2. One for in ground pool, and vacuum for the house!
I have lawns all around my house so it won't work. There is no way to get line of sight for more than 2 sides.
$599 for a wireless robot mower on Kickstarter? That’s wild if it’s true!
These things are still way, WAY, WAAAAAY too expensive for what they do (and what they leave for YOU to do.)
Indeed, in my area I can have a professional lawn service mow my small lawn for several years (probably longer than the life of this device) for the same price of one of these.
If you have a big lawn then this should pay for itself.
@@jonfreeman9682 sorry, but no. It never will, and that's a silly assertion.
@@billkissick6268 I dont know. I have a lawn with a lot of elevation change. 4000m2. My 2 hand movers cost 7k together and with two people i have to work 3 hours. This just does it. A riding mower is not able to cut most of my lawn because if the elevation change. This thing doesnt care. Idk if its worth it, but honestly 2999€ for the Luba 2 awd is cheaper than a riding mower🤷🏽♂️ or the same price. And every time i mow i use 10 € worth of gas. Sure its a risk and i am still jot sure if i want to buy it, but it is very promising and i feel like the price is decent.
are they? How much for a normal lawnmower?
I have waterfront... would it fall in the water ?
Hopefully not. As long as you map it to stay about 6-12" away, it should stay dry
What chelsea boots are you wearing?
Blundstones
👍🏻
Maybe just me, but it did not look on the video to be mowing the lawn. Very cool item though, kindof reminds me of a turtle (which would make a cool name for a battery automated mower).
This is the best review hands down of the Luba 2 so far!
I really want to buy this, but at $3K, I need to make sure it actually does what I want. I currently have a Worx Landroid L and the thing is a nightmare. Rarely does it cut more than an hour before getting stuck somewhere. This seems to be a lot better with its AWD and omni wheel.s The heavy weight, to me, is a benefit. I want something sturdy mowing my lawn. I'll do more research, but I may pull the trigger on this.
Aww, you should have done an audio example of how loud it is
We have one, it is very quiet. Almost silent…
I'm waiting for Toro's smart mower - no boundary wire and no GPS and R-thing
Interesting, I may wait a year longer because the tech is moving so fast!
TORO is da shit! Did they announce it?
Do a review of oneplus buds 3 please
Thanks for the recommendation! I will see if I can find a spot in my video queue
I actually think all of your complaints or concerns you had have all been fixed or was form not knowing how to use the mower properly.
No, it continued to get lost in the middle of a properly mapped area, presumably because the house blocked the signal. Other robo mowers did not have this issue
Product might be good but there idea of customer service is awful, they took payment and are now refusing to ship because they want more money first! An extra £350 after purchase! Just an insane situation
The downside of these short term reviews is they don’t detail the battery life after 1-5 years. I would say that’s my biggest fear with these (my robot vacuum doesn’t inspire confidence)
for almost 3k, all the drawbacks are deal breakers.... for that kind of money you'd expect a decent finished product
Bernier Extension
Excellent example of how robotics and AI is coming for everyone’s job.. even the gardener
Not mowing at night is an absolute dealbreaker.
Put it on solar and this should be in every lawn. Internal combustion is obsolete and problematic.
Neat info.
Thanks!
Darrell Street
How do you choose which model to buy? Luba 2 awd 100000 vs Luba 2 awd 5000. What is the difference? Why can't I just get the 5000 and mow say 3 acres?
I would guess the 10000 has a bigger battery
Intriguing but still too expensive.
Grazie :)
Why the name is LUBA 2 ??
It's the second generation of the Luba
so cute
Mine works fine at night. Camera isn't required.
Moore Extension
There’s a spot for an AirTag under the camera.
Do a review of Ecovacts goat g1, thx :)
Willard Walks
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I guess the question is. how long until someone steals it.
I had a robot a few years ago and it got attacked by an alligator. 😢