*THANK YOU for watching!* I’ve been wanting to make a video like this for years! And this is probably the closest I can get to it. I love this console and I hope you enjoyed my video about it and some of the best games! What are your favorites?
*NOTE:* Something I forgot to mention in the video is that I haven’t played ALL of the Jaguar games. Just most of them. So there’s a chance a few gems may have missed the list because I haven’t played them. This is just based off of my personal experiences. 😊
@@Nintenguy128 potentially. The motivation would be much different than with this one. So it wouldn’t be quite as fun and exciting for me. But maybe one day I do that. I have ranked Wii and Wii U games in the past however. So those ones do exist. 😊
Doom does have music, not just in end scenes, but technically in game too. The music was disabled as the DSP is being used mostly for decompression, and the Music slows down the game. However a simple hack can reenable the in-game music., thus at a slower frame rate.
Wow, that's an eclectic top 10. This would be my top 10 and I was an original Jaguar console owner: Doom (Carmack programmed it himself and loved the Jag version), NBA Jam: Tournament Edition (the best TE version of all the older consoles), Tempest 2000, Rayman, Iron Soldier, Iron Soldier 2, Alien vs Predator, Power Drive Rally, Wolfenstein 3D, Cannon Fodder. My honorable mentions would be Super Burnout, Val d'Isère Skiing and Snowboarding, International Sensible Soccer, and Atari Karts.
@@goofydufus I never got to play Raiden but it did look good. Dino Dudes didn't do it for me. Flashback was near the end and hard to buy. I got jaguar stuff when it was truly out. I bought the console at launch. A lot of Jag fans were fans after the Jag was essentially gone.
@@onlysublime Your list above was a great list and backs up my statement to people that "there are at least 15 good games for the Jaguar." I remember wanting a jag in the 90's (due to the advert for Rayman in EGM magazine). I ended up getting one about 10 years ago just before the prices sky-rocketed. I always liked games like Lemmings and The Lost Vikings, and Evolution Dino Dudes is in that genre (with 32bit graphics and great music). Most people don't know that E.D.D. is actually "The Humans" (the latter which received huge success on PC's in its day). I am proud to say that I beat all 80 stages on Hard Mode. Flashback is only "slightly better" than the SNES one, but at least it's still a great game. Thanks again for your great list above (which together with my list puts the grand total of great games to at least 17)!!!!.
Great video, I have owned a Jaguar since the 90’s have almost a complete collection.. when I pull out the old Jaggy my go to titles are AVP , Tempest, IS2, Powe Drive Rally, Rayman, NBA Jam, Battlesphere and Protector. With a house full of consoles guess I gravitate to exclusive or my favorite ports. Jaguar homebrew scene never ceases to amaze me considering the system was a commercial failure.
I was only just too young to know about this at the time, but you do a great job fleshing out the history and substance of the Jaguar! Always love to see you hyped about stuff! Thanks for this!
Dude, the soundtrack to Tempest 2000 on the Jag is so good, it beats the remade audio on the subsequent Tempest releases on CD/Blue-Ray based game consoles. IMO it's also the best gameplay version of Tempest, too. Really glad it was included on Atari 50th Anniversary Collection.
Great video! Sadly I never got a Jaguar until well after it's death. I picked up a complete console at a flea market for $30 way back in 1999. The only game I found for it at the time was the awesome AvP game. And yes, I still think it's pretty good for the time it was released.
Lets just say posting a Pic here is beyond my limitations, however I think Carl Forhan, and 5 of my new friends at that time where there:) They know who they are. Alzheimer's sucks;) however I do make new friends every day:)
This video took me back to my Commodore Amiga days Rob with the CD 32 and Amiga 500. I think this period of gaming history is very interesting and there were some great games around. I used to play Zool, Chaos Engine, Diggers, James Pond, Oscar and Simon the Sorceror on my console.
Around 2014, I showed my teenage son, Tempest 2000, on the Jaguar. His jaw dropped, as he watched with amazement! And to this day, he comments on how impressive AvP is! Now understand, my son is a pretty serious gamer, so this is quite the compliment!
Fun list. Iron Soldier was a game I think a lot of people don't give enough credit to. One game not on your list but which I really loved was Power Drive Rally. It was just an amazing, beautiful overhead rally game. And Tempest 2K really was the best Jaguar game (Defender 2K was good as well and one of the last Jaguar releases).
Im in the uk got a jag back when it launched and loved it was a truly great console which sadly never got the chance it deserved, and i still play jag games today i do wish it’d been a cd console to begin with
I found an atari jaguar and the cd attachment with 2 or 3 controllers a few cart games a few disc games at a pawnshop ive gone to for years all for the low low ridiculously low price of 500$ i have high hopes the cd attachment works but very expectations on it actually working but holly cow dude congrats on having a working one
I still have the Jaguar I bought right when it first came out. My brothers and I played _AvP, Iron Soldier,_ and _Tempest 2000_ a lot, as well as a number of other games, including _Evolution: Dino Dudes_ and even _Cybermorph._ I never felt that _Cybermorph_ was a _Starfox_ clone at all. _Starfox_ was a rails shooter, while _Cybermorph_ was a mission based free roaming flying game. The graphics may have been superficially similar, but the atmosphere and feel were entirely different. There were a lot of missions in _Cybermorph,_ and I beat it more than once back in the day. The bus of the Jaguar was 64 bits, and that was what they used to proclaim it a 64 bit system. Of course neither Tom nor Jerry was a fully 64 bit processor (though there were 64 bit parts of Tom), and you had to use both chips to fully load the bus. It wasn't an easy system to take full advantage of. A number of third party developers took the shortcut of programming their games almost entirely using the M68000 16-bit processor and didn't use any of the extra power at all. The Turbografx 16 / PC Engine somewhat similarly had two 8 bit CPUs on a 16 bit bus.
Great video, I miss my Jaguar! I'm surprised nobody ever mentions the different light effects when playing a music cd. I must be the only person that liked Trever Mcfur.
Top 10 games 1. Rayman 2. Tempest 3. Alien vs Predator 4. NBA JAM 5. Doom 6. Battle Sphere Gold 7. Protector se 8. Power Drive 9. Iron Soldier 2 10. Rebooteriods Special mention Atari Karts, Wolfenstien 3D, Primal Rage, Burnout and Skyhammer
I definitely remember this time. Such a great time and the Video game Industry was full of energy. It was great up until mid 2000s. I still have my Jaguar and Virtual Boy.
As a teenager in the 90s, I loved buying video game magazines. I speak French, but English video game magazines didn't bother me. During the summer holidays, my friends and I slept outside at night in the tent in the courtyard of my house. Looking at these magazines, the new games, but especially the next consoles to come with images of the games for these consoles.
Blame the strange architecture for some titles missing music. Some, like Cannon Fodder, relied on ambient sounds in their original form, then you have things like Native, which sadly was canned very early on, the limited Ram available on the system was an issue. AVP was intended to have a full orchestral soundtrack, but the cartridge, bigger as it was than the Tramiel's originally intended, didn't have room to include it. Also, sources within HMS stated the sound hardware was nothing like Atari had promised. The source said: “I was promised this amazing music system from Atari for KN on the Jaguar so I wrote loads of cool music and then it turned out the system couldn’t handle it and Atari’s code was dreadful.”..t
I really wanted a Jag back in 93ish, im so glad i went with the Amiga 1200 instead. Theres some great games on the jag - especislly Zool2 (The only version you can turm off inertia), makes the game more playable. Glad to have found you here on youtube. Ill look at more of your vids and decide if to subscribe. Thanks.
Well technically it began as a 16-bit game (I think focused on SNES?). Then they started making the Jaguar version of the final product. But to be fair when I say “Jaguar port” I really mean “Jaguar version”. I didn’t mean it in the most literal sense. Hopefully that makes sense.
@@Ruleof2ReviewRayman started life as a simple animation demo on the Atari ST, the game itself started life proper for the ill - fated SNES CD, then it moved to Jaguar etc
Ah the early to mid-90s, what a wild time. I feel like lots of gamers had at least one weird system that kind of flopped. You had the Atari Jaguar, I had the 3DO. Fun memories!
I recently found a Jaguar game that I actually really like: Cannon Fodder - at first i was like "finally, a cool exclusive good Jaguar game!", but then i saw it was on a ton of other platforms, including Genesis & SNES lol I do like Zool 2 though as well. I still have plenty to check out though, thanks to the relatively new Jaguar emulator that can actually run every game perfectly, including the CD games! I'm determined to find at least a couple of Jaguar exclusives to get excited about; i'll definitely be checking out all of these recommendations. I hear Syndicate is really fun, will check that out next
I remember when Jaguar was coming out. It was enticing. Extremely powerful for that time and a cool looking controller but just didn't have the support, or a company behind it with enough credibility left, to go head-to-head with Genesis and SNES.
Man, here is the thing about making games for a console. If you are a video game company and you plan to release a console, you have to have several dedicated teams making games for that console all the time. The games may take a year or two an order to even make, so you have to consider that too. You can't just release a console without tons of great games for it.
And you have to assign flagship games to development teams with experience in the genre. Rebellion had never made a Polygon 3D Racing Game.. HMS and Beyond never made a 2D fighting game. You also have to leave dev teams to it, don't demand texture mapping, when you know the system can't handle it, but the Tramiel's did just that and as they were paying the bills, the devs had to comply.
I have never owned a jaguar. But being a teenager in the 90s I was really impressed by the alien VS predator box and screenshots on the box. I knew if I was ever to get a Jaguar I ve got to get this game.
Exactly the same here, loved the original on Jaguar (later tried 32X Metal Head, hated it) then years later picked up I. S III on PlayStation, way too difficult I found.
Completely agree on Alien vs. Predator, Rayman, Doom, Iron Soldier, Iron Soldier 2, Wolfenstein 3D, and Atari Karts. I would probably include Power Drive Rally, Baldies, Evolution: Dino Dudes, Towers II: Plight of the Stargazer, and Super Burnout. Maybe Cybermorph and Cannon Fodder too.
Great vid, Rob! Probably never gonna have the hardware myself, but if the console ever comes to something like NSO I'll be sure to reference your list to see what I should check out first ;)
Thanks, Parker! That means a lot. It’s not really a console I would recommend in 2022 unless you actively collected and played retro stuff. But fun fact: there is Atari Collection releasing soon that will feature some Jaguar games. So that will be your shot!
Completely agree with you hands down best game on the Jaguar was Aliens Vs Predator. But did also like Iron Soldier. Doom and Wolfenstien was also great. Never like Tempest and Rayman. Still have my Jaguar and Jaguar CD. One game you missed that I really like Cannon Fodder.
Pretty strong list! I have all but Fight for Life and Attack of the Mutant Killer Penguins on this list, and enjoyed them all. I'm not as much of an Iron Soldier fan. I think I played it too close to Cybermorph that the gameplay felt pretty same-y, and also tok much like Metalhead on 32X for me. I'm a bigger fan of Tempest 2000, NBA Jam Tournament Edition (I was a big fan of NBA Jam in the '90s, and it's still fun!), Wolfenstein 3D, Cannon Fodder, Evolution Dino Dudes, and Brutal Sports Football. If it weren't for the other versions (especially the PS1) being better, I'd say Braindead 13 as well. As FMV games go, it's hard, but gives you a lot of freedom and feels more like an actual video game than most. That game is slept on pretty big in my opinion.
@@Ruleof2Review I really like it. I do think that the PS1 and 3DO versions are way better. The video quality on the Jaguar CD is sadly the worst of the bunch.
Lol, naturally. Sadly Protector isn’t a game I’ve played yet but I hear decent things. Great to see you here! Thanks for stopping by! I’m a fan and consumer of your work. 👍❤️
I always wanted to play Protector. I felt it was the closest thing to Defender. I really wanted to like Defender 2000 but Jeff Minter really messed up the formula.
A few of them in this video I did not like but most I did. I was only able to rent or buy what was available at stores near me. Raiden, blue Lightning, Theme Park, Kasumi ninja are a few others I found fun to play when I was bored
I like all these videos who try their best really, to convince everyone that the Jaguar was a great console. It was a garbage, with NOTHING even close to what the Saturn and the PS1 could propose at the same period, same generation. Even a Dreamcast, still has today strong arguments to defend itself against the OG XBOX.
If these games were available at launch, the Jaguar would have been a success. Fight for Life was unfinished - it would have been way better if Atari did not screw it up.
Nice list. One thing I’m going to have to disagree with you on though is Rayman’s music. I actually love the Jaguars version of the music more.. it just had a really unique sound to it.
Thank you! For what it’s worth I do agree with you that overall it does sound god or what it is. For me it’s just when you compare it to the insanely high quality, orchestral sound of the Playstation and Saturn versions that it falls apart. It just doesn’t compare. Thanks for watching!
@@Ruleof2Review totally agree, went to PlayStation Rayman after Jaguar Rayman, PlayStation music is far better. It's an odd one on PlayStation though, Japanese version has different sound fx in it's levels.
Great video. Never played a Jag but have considered it although prices are so high at the moment. Would love to play Skyhammer, wolfenstien, AvP and Iron Soldier. I also like the look of hover strike. Is it my imagination or are the textured pollygons smoother on the jag than the N64?
Jag can be played under emulation on multiple systems , the carts can be very expensive. . Jag doesn't have built in texture mapping , so it uses software - which is why it has better textures
the jaguar would be special if it were released before the 3do but unfortunately it didnt. but for some strange reason this system seemed more desirable at the time. like it was peak 90s premium ware
How is Jaguar emulation? Its a console i havent messed with much but ive been getting more curious about it lately. Always found it kinda funny one of the 32 bit processors (lovingly known as 'Jerry') was for audio, yet a bunch of the games have no music 😂. Such a weird console.
The fight for life footage is so funny 😂 reminds me of when i found a way to cheese darkstalkers revenge by forward strong kicking all the way up the ladder beating everybody along the way
Howdy. I own one of the few working jaguar CD systems. I remember hover strike being a good game for me and a friend in 2 player coop as one would gun and the other move. I don't think we managed to finish the cd version.
You're brave putting Fight for Life in your top 10. It seems that's a game everyone is expected to hate. I actually do like it, although it wouldn't be in my top 10. Two games I'd argue on behalf of are Missile Command 3D, simple but so much fun, and Zero 5... Maybe. I loved Zero 5 but it became insanely, unreasonably hard half way through.
Thanks for watching! Zero 5 is a game I’ve meant to play for years and haven’t yet gotten my hands on. It’s good to hear your recommendation. And yes I 100% stand by Fight for Life. It’s great!
Atari made a bunch of mistakes with Jaguar. Mainly they failed to develop a franchise character like Mario or Sonic. The next serious issue is they never had any display demo consoles set up. You could go into a game store and demo a SNES or SEGA but nothing else. I have a strange love of Pilot Wings and Altered Beast because they were on demo.
The Jaguar does not have a software problem, but hardware bugs more than any other system. People praise how on the original IBM PC nothing is really flawed. One could argue about home-computers, but for example on Amiga I would only complain that Paula has 4 DACs , yet can’t do stereo. Yamaha made fully digital synthesisers. Jaguar was announced in June 1991 to have 64 bit, yet a large part of the system does not utilize it. Then parts which don’t really need it do. 1989 Intel introduced the 486 with burst access to memory. FPU, integer, and code all profit from this. Jet, Jaguar cannot burst on its system bus. MIPS CPU from 1985 made clear that memory takes a cycle to return a value. At the time of the Jaguar this grew to 2 cycles, jet no pipeline! The bus stalls for everyone while memory does it’s thing.
Skyhammer, Battlesphere, I. S II are probably pushing the 3D side of the system near the max, i don't think we saw anything like it's true 2D potential, as Atari marketing didn't want 2D titles.
Cool! Don’t think I wanna play any of these games though. Well not on the Jaguar. Ports are kinda arguable when they don’t offer anything different than the original.
I’m glad to see doom I never could have guessed that it was this popular weirdly. I recently played doom 1993 on switch and god I don’t regret it. I’ve played doom 2016 a little and doom eternal (up until the gore nest haha) a lot and I genuinely liked doom 1993 more than those seriously the less contextualized design just gives so much creative and fun challenging levels I love seeing it here honestly. I gotta get doom 2 I hear they contextualize the levels better apparently so idk if I’ll like it more but I’m excited to give a sequel to a classic amazing game a try
Yea never saw much discussion about it growing up oddly I even avoided seeing much discussion about the reboot weirdly too haha. But hey I’m just glad I got to experience it though I was born almost a decade after it came out to know it released not long after something like super Mario world as a 3d game is just amazing a true piece of history forever
Don't agree at all. I have a full set, but my list would be very different. Let's see: NBA Jam, Tempest 2000, Wolfenstein, Rayman, Power Drive Rally, World Tour Racing, Battlemorph, Vidgrid, Highlander, Cannon Fodder.
Pretty cool video, I see the jaguar cd and I can only think about the avgn comparing it to a toilet xD. I would love to see a list of nintendo 64 games since you said it is your favorite console, but with a twist, no nintendo games allowed, maybe rare is allowed, but no nintendo games, there are a lot of obscure games that are pretty good, I'm recently been playing hybrid heaven, and I don't care what anyone says but castlevania 64 is my guilty pleasure xD
Glad to see some Jaguar love again. Did not expect to see Attack of the Mutant Penguins on here. One of the strangest games ever made, for sure. And always remember, Do the Math!
I'm gonna beg to differ with AvP. It's got an awesome premise and is creatively laid out but it's just...boring. What do you do in the game? Move around (and usually get lost in) identical looking hallways and air ducts and shoot the occasional enemy. Is it scary in parts? Sure, but they could've cut those air duct mazes waaaaaaay down. WAY down.
@@XV250 Looks very nice. I've noted it for the future. My current system is OLD and won't run it. I hope to change that situation in the not too distant future, but for the time being, I'm stuck not being able to run new emulators like this. :( Thanks for telling me about it though. :)
I would have liked to have seen more arcade and PC ports on Jaguar. Perhaps less clunky polygon games, more games relying on scaling. I don't think that would have saved the Jaguar, but it would have given the system a stronger library.
for the record, the jaguar cd version of primal rage is one of the worst ports, if you're going to look for that game, might as well get it for the saturn because it's a better version apparently. Just wanted to point that out since it's not a jaguar exclusive, it's been ported to like 10 systems so you might as well get one of the best versions you can
It really wasn't that expensive. $250 was more than SNES, but it was cheaper than any of the the other 5th gen systems (except N64). Of course if you made the same disasterous decision as me, buying the CD add on, that raised the total price to $400, same as the Saturn.
I remember that Aliens vs Predator was the only game that really stood out at the time in magazines but overall I wasn't seeing games that I had much interest in when I already had an SNES and even the Sega CD had more to it that intrerested me. Glad I never got a Jaguar, I would've been bored with it quite quickly. Even the Atari Lynx had a lackluster library that just didn't offer much depth or fun.
*THANK YOU for watching!* I’ve been wanting to make a video like this for years! And this is probably the closest I can get to it. I love this console and I hope you enjoyed my video about it and some of the best games! What are your favorites?
*NOTE:* Something I forgot to mention in the video is that I haven’t played ALL of the Jaguar games. Just most of them. So there’s a chance a few gems may have missed the list because I haven’t played them. This is just based off of my personal experiences. 😊
@@Nintenguy128 potentially. The motivation would be much different than with this one. So it wouldn’t be quite as fun and exciting for me. But maybe one day I do that. I have ranked Wii and Wii U games in the past however. So those ones do exist. 😊
Doom does have music, not just in end scenes, but technically in game too. The music was disabled as the DSP is being used mostly for decompression, and the Music slows down the game. However a simple hack can reenable the in-game music., thus at a slower frame rate.
Wow, that's an eclectic top 10. This would be my top 10 and I was an original Jaguar console owner: Doom (Carmack programmed it himself and loved the Jag version), NBA Jam: Tournament Edition (the best TE version of all the older consoles), Tempest 2000, Rayman, Iron Soldier, Iron Soldier 2, Alien vs Predator, Power Drive Rally, Wolfenstein 3D, Cannon Fodder. My honorable mentions would be Super Burnout, Val d'Isère Skiing and Snowboarding, International Sensible Soccer, and Atari Karts.
Just my personal opinion, but I also adore Raiden, Evolution Dino Dudes (also know as "Humans"), and Flashback.
@@goofydufus I never got to play Raiden but it did look good. Dino Dudes didn't do it for me. Flashback was near the end and hard to buy. I got jaguar stuff when it was truly out. I bought the console at launch. A lot of Jag fans were fans after the Jag was essentially gone.
@@onlysublime Your list above was a great list and backs up my statement to people that "there are at least 15 good games for the Jaguar." I remember wanting a jag in the 90's (due to the advert for Rayman in EGM magazine). I ended up getting one about 10 years ago just before the prices sky-rocketed. I always liked games like Lemmings and The Lost Vikings, and Evolution Dino Dudes is in that genre (with 32bit graphics and great music). Most people don't know that E.D.D. is actually "The Humans" (the latter which received huge success on PC's in its day). I am proud to say that I beat all 80 stages on Hard Mode. Flashback is only "slightly better" than the SNES one, but at least it's still a great game. Thanks again for your great list above (which together with my list puts the grand total of great games to at least 17)!!!!.
Great video, I have owned a Jaguar since the 90’s have almost a complete collection.. when I pull out the old Jaggy my go to titles are AVP , Tempest, IS2, Powe Drive Rally, Rayman, NBA Jam, Battlesphere and Protector. With a house full of consoles guess I gravitate to exclusive or my favorite ports. Jaguar homebrew scene never ceases to amaze me considering the system was a commercial failure.
I was only just too young to know about this at the time, but you do a great job fleshing out the history and substance of the Jaguar! Always love to see you hyped about stuff! Thanks for this!
Dude, the soundtrack to Tempest 2000 on the Jag is so good, it beats the remade audio on the subsequent Tempest releases on CD/Blue-Ray based game consoles. IMO it's also the best gameplay version of Tempest, too. Really glad it was included on Atari 50th Anniversary Collection.
This is a great video for historical significance, now we just need a top Neo Geo games video I've always been interested in that consol
1. Alien vs predator
2. Wolfenstein 3D
3. Tempest 2000
4. Super Burnout
5. Power Drive
6. Rayman
7. Nba Jam
8. Pitfall
9. Raiden
10. Iron Soldier
Great video! Sadly I never got a Jaguar until well after it's death. I picked up a complete console at a flea market for $30 way back in 1999. The only game I found for it at the time was the awesome AvP game. And yes, I still think it's pretty good for the time it was released.
Always loved the jaguar logo! So cool that you have the CD accessory as well
I also used to enjoy Super Burnout, Pitfall, NBA Jam and Chekered Flag back in the day
"You cannot deny how kick butt the opening theme song is.." ~ no, you can, actually. You can.
Jaguar VR was real - I saw it function and be played at Jagfest 2001
To be precise, there are two known fully working prototypes, one IIRC with twice the resolution of the other.
R u serious, please elaborate, was it like "Checkered Flag "VR thats what I'd imagine 😊
Me too, I will try to post a Pic, I am not FB friendly:)
Lets just say posting a Pic here is beyond my limitations, however I think Carl Forhan, and 5 of my new friends at that time where there:) They know who they are. Alzheimer's sucks;) however I do make new friends every day:)
Clint Thompson, Kevin Manne, Farhood?? Sorry if I mispelled anyone's names but it's all coming back to me now...kind of.
This video took me back to my Commodore Amiga days Rob with the CD 32 and Amiga 500. I think this period of gaming history is very interesting and there were some great games around. I used to play Zool, Chaos Engine, Diggers, James Pond, Oscar and Simon the Sorceror on my console.
Awesome! You were right in the thick of the 90s console race. What a great time it was!
Around 2014, I showed my teenage son, Tempest 2000, on the Jaguar. His jaw dropped, as he watched with amazement!
And to this day, he comments on how impressive AvP is!
Now understand, my son is a pretty serious gamer, so this is quite the compliment!
I'm a fellow Jaguar fan, and this was a great video!
Great top ten video, as a huge Jag fan I really enjoyed this 💪
Great video Rob. And much love to the Atari Jaguar
I still have my Jaguar. AvP is still one of my favorite games. I also think that the story in it would make a good movie.
Fun list. Iron Soldier was a game I think a lot of people don't give enough credit to. One game not on your list but which I really loved was Power Drive Rally. It was just an amazing, beautiful overhead rally game. And Tempest 2K really was the best Jaguar game (Defender 2K was good as well and one of the last Jaguar releases).
Im in the uk got a jag back when it launched and loved it was a truly great console which sadly never got the chance it deserved, and i still play jag games today i do wish it’d been a cd console to begin with
I found an atari jaguar and the cd attachment with 2 or 3 controllers a few cart games a few disc games at a pawnshop ive gone to for years all for the low low ridiculously low price of 500$ i have high hopes the cd attachment works but very expectations on it actually working but holly cow dude congrats on having a working one
A working Jag CD is rare, but a copy of Primal Rage for Jaguar CD is even rarer! Bravo!
I still have the Jaguar I bought right when it first came out. My brothers and I played _AvP, Iron Soldier,_ and _Tempest 2000_ a lot, as well as a number of other games, including _Evolution: Dino Dudes_ and even _Cybermorph._
I never felt that _Cybermorph_ was a _Starfox_ clone at all. _Starfox_ was a rails shooter, while _Cybermorph_ was a mission based free roaming flying game. The graphics may have been superficially similar, but the atmosphere and feel were entirely different. There were a lot of missions in _Cybermorph,_ and I beat it more than once back in the day.
The bus of the Jaguar was 64 bits, and that was what they used to proclaim it a 64 bit system. Of course neither Tom nor Jerry was a fully 64 bit processor (though there were 64 bit parts of Tom), and you had to use both chips to fully load the bus. It wasn't an easy system to take full advantage of. A number of third party developers took the shortcut of programming their games almost entirely using the M68000 16-bit processor and didn't use any of the extra power at all.
The Turbografx 16 / PC Engine somewhat similarly had two 8 bit CPUs on a 16 bit bus.
Great video, I miss my Jaguar! I'm surprised nobody ever mentions the different light effects when playing a music cd. I must be the only person that liked Trever Mcfur.
Top 10 games 1. Rayman 2. Tempest 3. Alien vs Predator 4. NBA JAM 5. Doom 6. Battle Sphere Gold 7. Protector se 8. Power Drive 9. Iron Soldier 2 10. Rebooteriods Special mention Atari Karts, Wolfenstien 3D, Primal Rage, Burnout and Skyhammer
I definitely remember this time. Such a great time and the Video game Industry was full of energy. It was great up until mid 2000s. I still have my Jaguar and Virtual Boy.
As a teenager in the 90s, I loved buying video game magazines. I speak French, but English video game magazines didn't bother me. During the summer holidays, my friends and I slept outside at night in the tent in the courtyard of my house. Looking at these magazines, the new games, but especially the next consoles to come with images of the games for these consoles.
Really good video dude. I never knew much about the Jaguar. Weird that there seems to be a few games without music...
Blame the strange architecture for some titles missing music.
Some, like Cannon Fodder, relied on ambient sounds in their original form, then you have things like Native, which sadly was canned very early on, the limited Ram available on the system was an issue.
AVP was intended to have a full orchestral soundtrack, but the cartridge, bigger as it was than the Tramiel's originally intended, didn't have room to include it.
Also, sources within HMS stated the sound hardware was nothing like Atari had promised.
The source said:
“I was promised this amazing music system from Atari for KN on the Jaguar so I wrote loads of cool music and then it turned out the system couldn’t handle it and Atari’s code was dreadful.”..t
I really wanted a Jag back in 93ish, im so glad i went with the Amiga 1200 instead. Theres some great games on the jag - especislly Zool2 (The only version you can turm off inertia), makes the game more playable. Glad to have found you here on youtube. Ill look at more of your vids and decide if to subscribe. Thanks.
As an ex Jaguar owner myself, you made a wise choice, the CD32 had games I would of killed for on the Jaguar
Just received my atari jaguar today. Can't wait to get playing and collecting games for it.
Awesome! Enjoy it! It’s a great snapshot of that era in gaming.
Rayman was not a port! Look it up. That was the original console release
Well technically it began as a 16-bit game (I think focused on SNES?). Then they started making the Jaguar version of the final product. But to be fair when I say “Jaguar port” I really mean “Jaguar version”. I didn’t mean it in the most literal sense. Hopefully that makes sense.
@@Ruleof2ReviewRayman started life as a simple animation demo on the Atari ST, the game itself started life proper for the ill - fated SNES CD, then it moved to Jaguar etc
Thank you for this Exident episode
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Ah the early to mid-90s, what a wild time. I feel like lots of gamers had at least one weird system that kind of flopped. You had the Atari Jaguar, I had the 3DO. Fun memories!
Good times!
3do here
32x was my flop of choice 😂
I recently found a Jaguar game that I actually really like:
Cannon Fodder - at first i was like "finally, a cool exclusive good Jaguar game!", but then i saw it was on a ton of other platforms, including Genesis & SNES lol
I do like Zool 2 though as well.
I still have plenty to check out though, thanks to the relatively new Jaguar emulator that can actually run every game perfectly, including the CD games!
I'm determined to find at least a couple of Jaguar exclusives to get excited about; i'll definitely be checking out all of these recommendations.
I hear Syndicate is really fun, will check that out next
I remember when Jaguar was coming out. It was enticing. Extremely powerful for that time and a cool looking controller but just didn't have the support, or a company behind it with enough credibility left, to go head-to-head with Genesis and SNES.
Man, here is the thing about making games for a console. If you are a video game company and you plan to release a console, you have to have several dedicated teams making games for that console all the time.
The games may take a year or two an order to even make, so you have to consider that too. You can't just release a console without tons of great games for it.
And you have to assign flagship games to development teams with experience in the genre.
Rebellion had never made a Polygon 3D Racing Game..
HMS and Beyond never made a 2D fighting game.
You also have to leave dev teams to it, don't demand texture mapping, when you know the system can't handle it, but the Tramiel's did just that and as they were paying the bills, the devs had to comply.
I have never owned a jaguar. But being a teenager in the 90s I was really impressed by the alien VS predator box and screenshots on the box. I knew if I was ever to get a Jaguar I ve got to get this game.
I love the jaguar I'm trying to go for a complete game collection, total carnage is also a good game
Wow Doom looks awesome on it, and I loved SNES port cause this was the only port I could play.
I never got to play Iron Soldier 2, but 1st and the 3rd on the PS1 (also on Nuon😁) are really fun action games.
Iron Solider 2 is really awesome. Recommend getting your hands on it.
Exactly the same here, loved the original on Jaguar (later tried 32X Metal Head, hated it) then years later picked up I. S III on PlayStation, way too difficult I found.
No mention of my favorite, Super Burnout... :( A great racing game.
Sadly it’s one of the few games I’ve not played on the Jaguar. But I hear it’s good!
I'm proud to say I own a working Jaguar CD; thanks to the Jaguar CD whisperer. Pink Floyd + VLM = total relaxation.
Good vide we should work together on a video. But wolf 3D is the best game for the system.
Completely agree on Alien vs. Predator, Rayman, Doom, Iron Soldier, Iron Soldier 2, Wolfenstein 3D, and Atari Karts. I would probably include Power Drive Rally, Baldies, Evolution: Dino Dudes, Towers II: Plight of the Stargazer, and Super Burnout. Maybe Cybermorph and Cannon Fodder too.
The logo of AvP still reads as “Aloen” to me 😅.
Great vid, Rob! Probably never gonna have the hardware myself, but if the console ever comes to something like NSO I'll be sure to reference your list to see what I should check out first ;)
Thanks, Parker! That means a lot. It’s not really a console I would recommend in 2022 unless you actively collected and played retro stuff. But fun fact: there is Atari Collection releasing soon that will feature some Jaguar games. So that will be your shot!
So much power now available on the switch! Happy birthday Atari 50. ❤
Great vid! Subscribbled to the max, bell too!
It had a 64 bit data bus apparently.
Indeed, that’s what makes it 64-bit :-).
@@Htbaa and other bits of it*s architecture being able to handle 64-bit operations.
Completely agree with you hands down best game on the Jaguar was Aliens Vs Predator. But did also like Iron Soldier. Doom and Wolfenstien was also great. Never like Tempest and Rayman. Still have my Jaguar and Jaguar CD. One game you missed that I really like Cannon Fodder.
Im 40 & have never seen a Jaguar in person. I didnt even know these existed back then
Pretty strong list! I have all but Fight for Life and Attack of the Mutant Killer Penguins on this list, and enjoyed them all. I'm not as much of an Iron Soldier fan. I think I played it too close to Cybermorph that the gameplay felt pretty same-y, and also tok much like Metalhead on 32X for me. I'm a bigger fan of Tempest 2000, NBA Jam Tournament Edition (I was a big fan of NBA Jam in the '90s, and it's still fun!), Wolfenstein 3D, Cannon Fodder, Evolution Dino Dudes, and Brutal Sports Football.
If it weren't for the other versions (especially the PS1) being better, I'd say Braindead 13 as well. As FMV games go, it's hard, but gives you a lot of freedom and feels more like an actual video game than most. That game is slept on pretty big in my opinion.
Braindead is one of the very few games I’ve yet to try. Good to hear that you stand by it. I’ll try to get my hands on it.
@@Ruleof2Review I really like it. I do think that the PS1 and 3DO versions are way better. The video quality on the Jaguar CD is sadly the worst of the bunch.
Great video! Personally I would include Raiden and Super Burnout in my top 10 Jag games. And Protector, of course. 😄
Lol, naturally. Sadly Protector isn’t a game I’ve played yet but I hear decent things. Great to see you here! Thanks for stopping by! I’m a fan and consumer of your work. 👍❤️
I always wanted to play Protector. I felt it was the closest thing to Defender. I really wanted to like Defender 2000 but Jeff Minter really messed up the formula.
A few of them in this video I did not like but most I did. I was only able to rent or buy what was available at stores near me.
Raiden, blue Lightning, Theme Park, Kasumi ninja are a few others I found fun to play when I was bored
I like all these videos who try their best really, to convince everyone that the Jaguar was a great console. It was a garbage, with NOTHING even close to what the Saturn and the PS1 could propose at the same period, same generation. Even a Dreamcast, still has today strong arguments to defend itself against the OG XBOX.
The other consoles were not available in EU or UK. Just consider Need for Speed on 3do .
If these games were available at launch, the Jaguar would have been a success. Fight for Life was unfinished - it would have been way better if Atari did not screw it up.
Nice list. One thing I’m going to have to disagree with you on though is Rayman’s music. I actually love the Jaguars version of the music more.. it just had a really unique sound to it.
Thank you! For what it’s worth I do agree with you that overall it does sound god or what it is. For me it’s just when you compare it to the insanely high quality, orchestral sound of the Playstation and Saturn versions that it falls apart. It just doesn’t compare. Thanks for watching!
@@Ruleof2Review totally agree, went to PlayStation Rayman after Jaguar Rayman, PlayStation music is far better. It's an odd one on PlayStation though, Japanese version has different sound fx in it's levels.
Nice vid. The word is "addictive" not "addicting", though
what is the game at 1:38 i have been trying to find the name of it
Zombie Dinos from Planet Zeltoid
Fingers crossed we'll eventually get an Atari Jaguar+
I want that SOOOOOOOOO badly!
No super burnout and brutal sports?
I love Brutal Sports! Burnout on Jaguar is sadly one of the few games I still haven’t played. I hear it’s okay.
@@Ruleof2Review It's one of the best on the system.
Great video. Never played a Jag but have considered it although prices are so high at the moment. Would love to play Skyhammer, wolfenstien, AvP and Iron Soldier. I also like the look of hover strike. Is it my imagination or are the textured pollygons smoother on the jag than the N64?
Jag can be played under emulation on multiple systems , the carts can be very expensive.
. Jag doesn't have built in texture mapping , so it uses software - which is why it has better textures
MY PARENTS BOUGHT ME JAGUAR ON MY B DAY. I HAD ULTRA VORTEX, CYBER MORPH, KASUMI NINJA, TEMPEST, AND A FEW OTHER GAMES
the jaguar would be special if it were released before the 3do but unfortunately it didnt. but for some strange reason this system seemed more desirable at the time. like it was peak 90s premium ware
Great video
I see I’m not big enough to do a Jaguar video with. I just reviewed every game for the system. 😮
How is Jaguar emulation? Its a console i havent messed with much but ive been getting more curious about it lately.
Always found it kinda funny one of the 32 bit processors (lovingly known as 'Jerry') was for audio, yet a bunch of the games have no music 😂. Such a weird console.
On windows its solid, on android its garbage
The fight for life footage is so funny 😂 reminds me of when i found a way to cheese darkstalkers revenge by forward strong kicking all the way up the ladder beating everybody along the way
Howdy. I own one of the few working jaguar CD systems. I remember hover strike being a good game for me and a friend in 2 player coop as one would gun and the other move. I don't think we managed to finish the cd version.
I don't have Atari karts unfortunately. It would have probably been a blast for me when I was younger.
You're brave putting Fight for Life in your top 10. It seems that's a game everyone is expected to hate. I actually do like it, although it wouldn't be in my top 10. Two games I'd argue on behalf of are Missile Command 3D, simple but so much fun, and Zero 5... Maybe. I loved Zero 5 but it became insanely, unreasonably hard half way through.
Thanks for watching! Zero 5 is a game I’ve meant to play for years and haven’t yet gotten my hands on. It’s good to hear your recommendation. And yes I 100% stand by Fight for Life. It’s great!
Atari made a bunch of mistakes with Jaguar. Mainly they failed to develop a franchise character like Mario or Sonic. The next serious issue is they never had any display demo consoles set up. You could go into a game store and demo a SNES or SEGA but nothing else.
I have a strange love of Pilot Wings and Altered Beast because they were on demo.
I always wonder how good the games could have been if more developers would have been on board. And really push the system to it's absolute limit.
The Jaguar does not have a software problem, but hardware bugs more than any other system. People praise how on the original IBM PC nothing is really flawed. One could argue about home-computers, but for example on Amiga I would only complain that Paula has 4 DACs , yet can’t do stereo. Yamaha made fully digital synthesisers.
Jaguar was announced in June 1991 to have 64 bit, yet a large part of the system does not utilize it. Then parts which don’t really need it do. 1989 Intel introduced the 486 with burst access to memory. FPU, integer, and code all profit from this. Jet, Jaguar cannot burst on its system bus. MIPS CPU from 1985 made clear that memory takes a cycle to return a value. At the time of the Jaguar this grew to 2 cycles, jet no pipeline! The bus stalls for everyone while memory does it’s thing.
Skyhammer, Battlesphere, I. S II are probably pushing the 3D side of the system near the max, i don't think we saw anything like it's true 2D potential, as Atari marketing didn't want 2D titles.
Rayman was no port for the Jaguar. It was developed for it. All other versions was ports.
Rayman started life as a simple animation demo on the Atari ST, it began life on the SNES CD, before being moved to the Jaguar, then other systems.
I stopped watching the SECOND you said Cybermorph wasn't so bad. I understand you were a Jaguar fan, but that is just defending the indefensible.
Cool!
Don’t think I wanna play any of these games though.
Well not on the Jaguar.
Ports are kinda arguable when they don’t offer anything different than the original.
I’m glad to see doom I never could have guessed that it was this popular weirdly. I recently played doom 1993 on switch and god I don’t regret it. I’ve played doom 2016 a little and doom eternal (up until the gore nest haha) a lot and I genuinely liked doom 1993 more than those seriously the less contextualized design just gives so much creative and fun challenging levels I love seeing it here honestly. I gotta get doom 2 I hear they contextualize the levels better apparently so idk if I’ll like it more but I’m excited to give a sequel to a classic amazing game a try
Really? Interesting. Doom is widely known to be one of the best games ever made! It’s a classic! I’m glad you enjoyed it. 😁
Yea never saw much discussion about it growing up oddly I even avoided seeing much discussion about the reboot weirdly too haha. But hey I’m just glad I got to experience it though I was born almost a decade after it came out to know it released not long after something like super Mario world as a 3d game is just amazing a true piece of history forever
Don't agree at all. I have a full set, but my list would be very different. Let's see: NBA Jam, Tempest 2000, Wolfenstein, Rayman, Power Drive Rally, World Tour Racing, Battlemorph, Vidgrid, Highlander, Cannon Fodder.
Highlander, are u high??
@@davidortiz6284 it takes some getting used to. But I think it is quite fun!
A top 10 list without playing all the games?
Where did you learn to fly?
oh yeah, i can see it, jaguar vr vs virtual boy, that will be epic
I played the VR once. It was garbage. But had much possibilities.
That makes me sad to hear, but so cool that you got to try it in person. Super jealous!
Cybermorph crying in the corner watching the real console flagship: Tempest 2000 and Alien vs Predator
Pretty cool video, I see the jaguar cd and I can only think about the avgn comparing it to a toilet xD. I would love to see a list of nintendo 64 games since you said it is your favorite console, but with a twist, no nintendo games allowed, maybe rare is allowed, but no nintendo games, there are a lot of obscure games that are pretty good, I'm recently been playing hybrid heaven, and I don't care what anyone says but castlevania 64 is my guilty pleasure xD
I love Tempest 2,000!!!
Glad to see some Jaguar love again. Did not expect to see Attack of the Mutant Penguins on here. One of the strangest games ever made, for sure.
And always remember, Do the Math!
Thank you! Yeah I love that weird ass game, haha. Do the math indeed!
Possibly my favorite on the console after i learned how to actually play it
I'm gonna beg to differ with AvP. It's got an awesome premise and is creatively laid out but it's just...boring. What do you do in the game? Move around (and usually get lost in) identical looking hallways and air ducts and shoot the occasional enemy. Is it scary in parts? Sure, but they could've cut those air duct mazes waaaaaaay down. WAY down.
And had the acid blood puddles dissappear after a set time..
I hear there's now a decent Jaguar emulator for the cartridge games. Maybe in another decade, we'll have working Jaguar CD emulation...
BigPEmu does a great job of emulating Jaguar CD.
@@XV250 Looks very nice. I've noted it for the future. My current system is OLD and won't run it. I hope to change that situation in the not too distant future, but for the time being, I'm stuck not being able to run new emulators like this. :(
Thanks for telling me about it though. :)
I would have liked to have seen more arcade and PC ports on Jaguar. Perhaps less clunky polygon games, more games relying on scaling.
I don't think that would have saved the Jaguar, but it would have given the system a stronger library.
Holy smokes I just wanted to see the top ten. Feels like a bait and switch
Go jaguar
Got my one when really little kid and got AVP doom b4 I had pc I loved it but hard to find good games naw love AVP still
for the record, the jaguar cd version of primal rage is one of the worst ports, if you're going to look for that game, might as well get it for the saturn because it's a better version apparently. Just wanted to point that out since it's not a jaguar exclusive, it's been ported to like 10 systems so you might as well get one of the best versions you can
And anothe4 world? ;)
The Top Ten??? Lmao! There were only 16 Jag CD games made. Might as well do a Top 16....lol
Edit - Wait....is this a Jag or Jag CD game ranking?
It’s one list spanning both consoles combined.
I didn't know anyone who had a Jaguar. It was just too expensive.
Funnily enough the 3DO launched around the same time for like twice the price. That was like $700!!
It really wasn't that expensive. $250 was more than SNES, but it was cheaper than any of the the other 5th gen systems (except N64). Of course if you made the same disasterous decision as me, buying the CD add on, that raised the total price to $400, same as the Saturn.
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Had them all
That controller is an abomination.
I remember that Aliens vs Predator was the only game that really stood out at the time in magazines but overall I wasn't seeing games that I had much interest in when I already had an SNES and even the Sega CD had more to it that intrerested me. Glad I never got a Jaguar, I would've been bored with it quite quickly. Even the Atari Lynx had a lackluster library that just didn't offer much depth or fun.