@@Gen7486In general, don’t generalize. Anyone can lose on any day. I’ve seen this battle & absolutely give it to Shufflo! They’re probably the most practiced duo (in English anyway) in battle rap. They killed it here.
Yo Avo, I am NOT a horror fan, nor a professional in any parallel field like you my dude. What I AM is a psychology major, and that’s why I loved Hereditary. When a film puts people in a supernatural situation & they still actually act like humans, I’m impressed. That movie is so brilliantly acted, and the family dysfunction is so extreme yet so believable.
I've come back to this battle a few times. I appreciate rex and raptor more and more with each view. The villain duo angle is original in battle rap and it was executed perfectly.
Illmac was spot on talking about fans only looking for the punches. This has been rampant for a long time in battle rap now, where people don't appreciate all the other elements to battling and rapping. If you stop looking at the punch itself, and actually listen to how excellent writers build up to the punch, you'll be able to uncover so many more layers. Along with how it rhymes, how relevant it is to your opponent etc.
Really appreciate Avo running that Raptor vs Red Flag clip real quick - been out the loop on UK battle rap for time now, so not heard that before and that ish was ARRRRD!
I think the comedy act worked for Scapegoats. Raptor has felt kind of one note for a long time so its cool to see him pull off something else so easily
@@reaperj550lol, they're just waiting on a league to book it, it's pretty much the only 2 on 2 they'd take. Their 2 on 2 record is 51-1-1 in judged battles, the loss is the most disliked video in KOTD history, and the leagues only judged battle they didn't show the judgement on video. All that said, they can afford to be picky.
Personally loved this battle the whole way through but I do understand and kinda agree with Illmac and Avo. At the end of the day, Raptor flat out said they're trying to be Shufflo 2.0, rather than forging a style for Scapegoats, so vs Shufflo it's gonna feel like something's missing. Raptor and Rex are still incredible battlers in their own right, but I could've had a better argument for them winning if they'd leaned more into their strengths here
I think there's alot of UK battle rap context people are missing here. It's the fact that it's rex and raptor, two let's say "unpolished" working class rappers, considered proper rappers, doing the shufflo style skits, and doing it to such a high standard, which would've been completely unpredictable at the time. The skits coming from these two have an extra quality precisely because it's these two and the history they have in the UK scene, sprinkled with in jokes "are you aware that everything just rhymed" for example. Their angle was the whole battle, breaking down shufflo by mimicking them, basically we can do your style if we want to, you can't do ours
“I get it! He said something wrong!” Oh, Illmac. You’re too entertaining. He’s got an excellent point, too! A lot of battle rap fans DON’T care about people’s ability to… rap. Ill goes on to say that “…everyone sounds the same…” which is one of my biggest complaints about this artform. I PERSONALLY give tons of credit for originality. People call A. Ward (for example) “corny” for using the Christian theme. That doesn’t appeal to me personally, but I appreciate it because he’s doing his own thing. When a battle rapper has a unique & unmistakeable style, they automatically get my respect. Too many people rapping the same way about the same subjects. The coolest part of BR is the diversity. What people come up with in a functionally infinite creative space.
How have you guys still not reacted to Shufflo vs Dialect & Zen? Classic! DNA was on stage and judged. Shufflo vs Joker Starr and Verb T also a classic
'we're in your city but just ask who they've come to see' with the big crowd popoff and 'your reason for existing is Marlo and Shuffle T' win the battle right there
Well it can't be the same because we don't operate on dollars over here.. plus we can pay £20 for 3.5 or we can pay like £90 for a 3.5 of that good good but the typical rate for a gram is £10. But I still don't get your comment.
@@grabbityI now know he's on about cocaine. The original comment doesn't make any sense.... OK well in the uk it's typically 50 for a gram or you could quite easily get a gram for 40 if you know the guy
Talking about how we pronounce words when theres so many words you americans slant to make fit a rhyme. Hanging becomes heynging to rhyme with ranging.. just a recent example i heard
Well I've heard them mention it way more than once. Lush thinks we change how words sound so they rhyme... we explicitly do not do that and it's something we hear Americans do all the time so it's hypocritical. Maybe I was wrong bringing it up in this instance but they still believe it
@@reaperj550 there def are people who think that, but Lush and Illmac def don't. They give a lot of respect to how good the top British battlers are at rhyming shit - there's a reason you'll hear Illmac shout out Shufflo, Soul, Frankie Phraser, and a bunch more UK battlers than almost anyone else from NA. It's just a reaction of "there's no way I could've made that work" that they're trying to make entertaining since they're on camera
@@Nihaas I understand your point but it's still hypocritical as Americans do the same thing all the time stretching words and bending how they sound in ways we could never do it, its just one of those.
He's not a goat at all lol, is that you unanimous? Side note they don't care what you want to have watched which sucks tbh they are only interested if you pay for it
@@Rambo007-_- add shuffle and marlo, add cee major, add shox da rebel and finally add oshea that's 10 battlers from just England that are better than unan
A highly requested 2 on 2 battle out of the exciting UK scene! 🇬🇧
Which team did you have winning???
Shufflo all day!
No 2 on 2 team can beat them 👀
@@Gen7486In general, don’t generalize. Anyone can lose on any day. I’ve seen this battle & absolutely give it to Shufflo! They’re probably the most practiced duo (in English anyway) in battle rap. They killed it here.
Yo Avo, I am NOT a horror fan, nor a professional in any parallel field like you my dude. What I AM is a psychology major, and that’s why I loved Hereditary. When a film puts people in a supernatural situation & they still actually act like humans, I’m impressed. That movie is so brilliantly acted, and the family dysfunction is so extreme yet so believable.
I've come back to this battle a few times. I appreciate rex and raptor more and more with each view. The villain duo angle is original in battle rap and it was executed perfectly.
Salute for all the uk watches lately, much appreciated
Illmac was spot on talking about fans only looking for the punches. This has been rampant for a long time in battle rap now, where people don't appreciate all the other elements to battling and rapping. If you stop looking at the punch itself, and actually listen to how excellent writers build up to the punch, you'll be able to uncover so many more layers. Along with how it rhymes, how relevant it is to your opponent etc.
This is kinda only American problem.... Americans don't know their own language well enough to catch anything but a straight spoon fed punch...
Totally agree with Mac, Scapegoats tried too hard to be comedic and you cant go joke for joke with Shufflo, theyre too good man!!
For jaded battle rap fans, you know it’s good when you react while watching it alone.
Those two crack me up.
Ye but it was still really good if they did it against anyone other 2v2 it would have come across a lot better
Really appreciate Avo running that Raptor vs Red Flag clip real quick - been out the loop on UK battle rap for time now, so not heard that before and that ish was ARRRRD!
I think the comedy act worked for Scapegoats. Raptor has felt kind of one note for a long time so its cool to see him pull off something else so easily
When illmac said its in the town square i lost it 😂😂😂
WE NEED ILLMAC THESAURUS VS SHUFFLO.
PLEASE....
Why, I'm sure illmac and saurus would rather not face that embarrassment ;)
@@reaperj550 True but still. I wanna watch Illmac and Thesaurus vs Shufflo.
That'd be a great battle.
Make it compliment battle
@@reaperj550lol, they're just waiting on a league to book it, it's pretty much the only 2 on 2 they'd take. Their 2 on 2 record is 51-1-1 in judged battles, the loss is the most disliked video in KOTD history, and the leagues only judged battle they didn't show the judgement on video.
All that said, they can afford to be picky.
Thanks to you guys ive been bingeing shuffle T and Marlo. Thanks!
It's one thing to have an idea, but what rex and raptor (that's hilarious) did was perfect execution
You and illmac are good guys, yall are like my friends i never met lol
Personally loved this battle the whole way through but I do understand and kinda agree with Illmac and Avo. At the end of the day, Raptor flat out said they're trying to be Shufflo 2.0, rather than forging a style for Scapegoats, so vs Shufflo it's gonna feel like something's missing. Raptor and Rex are still incredible battlers in their own right, but I could've had a better argument for them winning if they'd leaned more into their strengths here
"you can't sell the dream Adele dazeem the name just isn't right" was hella slept on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love this battle and ill always has a level of insight that adds a layer of appreciation and understanding
Shufflo, too damn good. Always fun to watch 🙌🏻
I new Illmac would recognize the rhyme scheme switch.👊
I think there's alot of UK battle rap context people are missing here. It's the fact that it's rex and raptor, two let's say "unpolished" working class rappers, considered proper rappers, doing the shufflo style skits, and doing it to such a high standard, which would've been completely unpredictable at the time. The skits coming from these two have an extra quality precisely because it's these two and the history they have in the UK scene, sprinkled with in jokes "are you aware that everything just rhymed" for example. Their angle was the whole battle, breaking down shufflo by mimicking them, basically we can do your style if we want to, you can't do ours
"you're a negotiation legend" fkn ruined me LMAO
Damn that song up top was crazyyyyy...illmac is too dopeee
Ill kept cracking avo up and vice versa. And all of it had us rolling. Maybe my favorite watch ever.
The fact that the conversation in Bobby’s 2nd is about camera angles is all that needs to be said 😂
“I get it! He said something wrong!” Oh, Illmac. You’re too entertaining.
He’s got an excellent point, too! A lot of battle rap fans DON’T care about people’s ability to… rap.
Ill goes on to say that “…everyone sounds the same…” which is one of my biggest complaints about this artform. I PERSONALLY give tons of credit for originality.
People call A. Ward (for example) “corny” for using the Christian theme.
That doesn’t appeal to me personally, but I appreciate it because he’s doing his own thing.
When a battle rapper has a unique & unmistakeable style, they automatically get my respect.
Too many people rapping the same way about the same subjects. The coolest part of BR is the diversity. What people come up with in a functionally infinite creative space.
That illmac track at the beginning GOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
That one higher up, separate from the paw is called a dewclaw.
Can i recommend Unanimous vs Whispers?
How have you guys still not reacted to Shufflo vs Dialect & Zen? Classic! DNA was on stage and judged.
Shufflo vs Joker Starr and Verb T also a classic
Who was singing the chorus on illMac song? Chase? Illmac?
"Posh, fat, and ugly? What will they say about me?" CRYIN bro
RIP
Ben!!
New "Watch" let's gooooooo!!!!!
Illmac should battle Cruger tho
Scapegoats make so many references to things Shufflo have said and done, you appreciate their material more of you know Shufflo's battles well.
Shufflo was too good for those Mancs 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
'we're in your city but just ask who they've come to see' with the big crowd popoff and 'your reason for existing is Marlo and Shuffle T' win the battle right there
Ill bro hahahahaaaaa man said they did go to film studies with joseph king joe king aside 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Avo cracking at chicken satay and corn 😂😂😂
How do I join the channel?
Illmac 🔥
BEN FOREVER
SKATERS SUPPORTING SKATERS 1000%
Loaded Hollows
Imagine being a smoker and thinking $50 a gram in England is same as $60 for an eighth ie 3.5 grams in USA
Imagine caring enough to write out that comment.
Well it can't be the same because we don't operate on dollars over here.. plus we can pay £20 for 3.5 or we can pay like £90 for a 3.5 of that good good but the typical rate for a gram is £10. But I still don't get your comment.
Imagine thinking he's talking about weed.
@@grabbityI now know he's on about cocaine. The original comment doesn't make any sense.... OK well in the uk it's typically 50 for a gram or you could quite easily get a gram for 40 if you know the guy
Trashy/average cocaine is around £50 a g, with ganja still at £10 a g.
😂😂😂😂😂
illmac, pet the damn dog
Talking about how we pronounce words when theres so many words you americans slant to make fit a rhyme. Hanging becomes heynging to rhyme with ranging.. just a recent example i heard
You should listen to that part again. He didn't say people from the UK, he said fans of bad rappers like it when people mispronounce words.
Well I've heard them mention it way more than once. Lush thinks we change how words sound so they rhyme... we explicitly do not do that and it's something we hear Americans do all the time so it's hypocritical. Maybe I was wrong bringing it up in this instance but they still believe it
@@reaperj550 there def are people who think that, but Lush and Illmac def don't. They give a lot of respect to how good the top British battlers are at rhyming shit - there's a reason you'll hear Illmac shout out Shufflo, Soul, Frankie Phraser, and a bunch more UK battlers than almost anyone else from NA. It's just a reaction of "there's no way I could've made that work" that they're trying to make entertaining since they're on camera
@@Nihaas I understand your point but it's still hypocritical as Americans do the same thing all the time stretching words and bending how they sound in ways we could never do it, its just one of those.
Raptor is so fire but his delivery isn't it. Dude top 3 in uk when it comes to bars.
JGlaze!!!!!
Can we get a Unanimous battle watch please ...... Show the EU goat
He's not a goat at all lol, is that you unanimous?
Side note they don't care what you want to have watched which sucks tbh they are only interested if you pay for it
Unan vs raptor is a great battle. Unan flips the scheme raptor uses against red flag shown earlier in this upload.
@@reaperj550 I guess that's your opinion but I don't know 5 other EU battlers better than him
@@Rambo007-_- lmao I can give you 5 instantly. Tony D, Lunar, Shotty, soul and raptor. Are you even from Europe?
@@Rambo007-_- add shuffle and marlo, add cee major, add shox da rebel and finally add oshea that's 10 battlers from just England that are better than unan