Thank you for taking me on your adventure! In August I want to solo the Idaho BDR and the Wyoming BDR in my 2024 two door Jeep Rubicon. I will be camping and hiking and fortunately I really don't have any time constraints.
completed that route about week before you. You definitely had more rain than we did. It was epic, except for section 4. what a long nightmare of a day.
@@DansADV If you do it again you have to check out the fire lookout on after centennial on your way to Elk Mountain. Really awesome views from up there and it was a great place to stop for an early lunch.
from the UK we have visited Wyoming a number of times - mainly stayed at the Red Reflet Ranch in Ten Sleep. (Sold now so not possible to stay anymore ). Wyoming Is my favorite place on the planet, love the wide open space. People are friendly and normal as well. I ride an EXC 450 6 Day and an 890R Adventure. Thanks for sharing this video - absolutely epic !!! Due to be back in September if weather holds and I can find a rental maybe I can get some trail in.
Nice video. I like to see the Dad/son riding group, spending time with our kids doing what we love. I chuckled a bit on your comment about hauling too much weight....with all the videos out there (which I have watched most) many many riders talk about packing light, going light, smaller bikes and so on yet so many riders still find themselves on very heavy and loaded bikes. The "what if" and " but I might need this" tends to add up. I ride bicycles, dirt bikes, adv bikes, street bikes, long distance backpacking and these activities have helped me go very minimal and it has made my remote challenging rides way more enjoyable. I've done camping BDR's in AZ, CO, and UT on my 250 dirt bike. For me it has totally changed the experiences, making the trips a blast. It was a fun exercise in cutting my gear to really critical items only, as I did when I hike 300 to 500 miles at a go. Again, good video...thanks for taking us along.
I did the Wyoming BDR last year. Portions of it on my XR650L. Storms chased us the entire way and cut our trip short. Leaving from Fort Collins next week to do the entire BDR on my KTM 950 Adventure. I've been looking forward to this trip all year and can't wait to hit the road. Especially excited to do it on 950.
With coaching like yours I’d go to the end of the world !!! I have No skills to own a GSA(even though I do😜) but I’m starting my off road journey this week here in Arizona… New to this and wanna learn so bad cause I love being away from this worlds bs… What a better place than being on a BDR right?? Good stuff Sir!! Son might have been cussing ya the whole trio but when you’re gone he will have these memories branded in him….and that’s priceless 🫡🇺🇸🌵
Thanks! You should check out one of the guided / schooling trips put on by west38moto.com and/or go to a Bill Dragoo D.A.R.T. school billdragoo.com/. They specialize in training guys who are new to the sport to handle these big bikes off-road. All the best in your future adventures.
I like Rally setting 3 for gravel and double track. Gives me a little more slip for the climbs but keeps the tail enough in line when I hit gravel roads and forget I have 3x the HP of my 300
Great video… pretty sure you passed me on your way home in the thermopolis area … I was towing my 1290 R with my Jeep gladiator.. of course I remember your sweet ride passing me
There is so much land, but no people way out there. I think you and your son had a nice adventure even though you didn't manage to fall down. That's outstanding! I've watched several of the BDR videos and it seems like crashing is unavoidable. In a few videos, experienced riders crashed and had to be transported out by helicopter 😢. I suppose many ADV riders would retort to my comment by saying if you don't expect to crash, then just don't ride the BDR. 35:29
Drops are to be expected, crashes... hopefully not. There is certainly an elevated risk on any motorcycle trip, but keeping speeds low and putting in the hours of training before you go makes a big difference.
Great job letting us know how far you got each day and the time it took. Planning our August 2024 WY BDR trip and this information was really helpful. Thank you!
Thanks for watching. Good eye to spot Rally Mode. I keep the throttle response in sport. Not sure why, I just like to leave the bike in the same setting all the time.
I love having the transition lens.... I try not to ride at night, but I've been stuck out a few times with a tinted lens and it sucks. I need tinted + sunglasses most of the time due to sensitive eyes from LASIK
so before we get any farther in the video I have to ask. How were the Desert H/T on the big girl? I have them on my T7 and would really like to put them on my 1290SA-R for my COBDR trip next year. For me on the T7 they were really sketchy for the first 500 miles'ish. The head shake above 75 was nerve racking, but now they are fine....ON with the show and heck I may change my plans after watching this. Okay that was amazing. Thanks for the vid
My tires are actually the MotoZ RallZ's. I'm pretty happy with them. My biggest complaint is that they are very loud on the highway, but I wear earplugs so I live with it. Been very happy with them off-road. Have them on the 890 and the 1290
@@DansADV I’m sorry I thought I saw Desert H/T🤦♂️. But the RallZ would be better for the big 1290. I ran the Adventure for the UTBDR this year and they were great. Man those Desert H/T are much louder than the Adventure. I always wear earplugs as well and my son was on the T7, we were doing 75/80 and i could easily hear those tires humming away. Anyway, thanks for your time
Question, same route, but with the 1290 SAS, other than skid plate, crash bars and maybe 50/50 tires being added, or not, would you have done it with the S version or make additional changes?
I suspect the S version would be fine, provided decent tires. I did not do the expert sections due to time constraints and my sons relative inexperience so I can't speak to those. You may have to take a few sections slower with the less suspension travel and pick better lines thru the rocks with the smaller front wheel, but I suspect it will not be a major issue.
Thank you! Great question... They are actually both my bikes... My son does not own a bike and is an infrequent rider. The 890 will be easier in the technical stuff without a doubt. It doesn't lack much in comfort on road either so it's probably the more ideal BDR bike. However, I really enjoy the 1290... it was perfect for the WYBDR. I never dropped it. But we did skip the expert sections. (I'm not an expert, and my son certainly is not and we had time constraints, wanted to finish all 8 sections and get home).
@@DansADV I currently own a 22 890 ADVR & I have been thinking abut upgrading to the 1290. I just feel more comfortable on it and a little more planted. I have only ridden the 1290 SADV S model, but they are quite similar in size. Thanks again for sharing and look forward to more amazing videos.
Love the video! I to have a 23' SAR and will also be doing the WYBDR this September. If I may ask do you recall what tire pressure you ran in your tires? Did you oil your chain during the trip or do you think its unnecessary? Thanx! Cheers from Denver Colorado!
I run 25-28 PSI both front and back. I do take a chain lube/cleaner and brush, but typically only use it once in the middle of the trip. To be honest, I don't know how necessary it is, I feel like it's generally recommended every 500 to 1000 miles.
Enjoyed the video, I’d like to do it on my 1290 one day. What visor extension are you using and does it work decently? Seems like I’ve heard some don’t stay on. Thanks from Michigan
These aren't cheap, but they work well, used them on several bikes, never had them come off. Puig Clip-On Windscreen Visor SKU: 945995 Color: Clear Size: SM
Let me ask you a question: I have an 2019 Africa Twin that I lowered the suspension 50mm, which is 1.9 inches, what is the minimum amount of clearance a bike should have? The bike came with 9.8 inches and I lowered it down to 7.8 so I could easily put both feet on the ground. I'm mostly a street rider but I plan on starting off road riding this year. Comments or recommendations?
If you ride gravel roads and easy jeep trails, ground clearance will not come into the equation. If you're just getting started, my advice would be to continue to ride what you have and make sure you have a good skid plate. I'd get some training if you can't attend a class... I subscribed to "Say No Slow" by Chris Birch... he has some really great videos to help you transition to off-road riding. Once you start hitting your skid plate enough, you'll know it's probably time to raise your bike back up. Either that, or you'll find yourself bottoming out too often when hitting pot holes and rough terrain due to the limited suspension travel. Bottoming out at speed is a safety concern as it throws the bike of line and makes it hard to control. Long term, as your skills progress, being able to put both feed down will not be as big of a concern and you can probably raise your bike back up.
Great video, Dan! Lots of AMAZING views!!!
Thanks !
My favorite video this year!
Wow!! Thank you!
This is awesome to see Fater and son
Beautiful big sky country.
You are blessed guy.❤❤❤🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I am indeed!
Fun looking trip!! Makes me SO thankful for my lil CRF300L.
Wow, absolutely great footage. Thank you for the video.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thank you for taking me on your adventure! In August I want to solo the Idaho BDR and the Wyoming BDR in my 2024 two door Jeep Rubicon. I will be camping and hiking and fortunately I really don't have any time constraints.
Did the Wyoming BDR last year and gearing up to do the Colorado BDR. Loved the Wyoming one can't wait to start the Colorado BDR.
completed that route about week before you. You definitely had more rain than we did. It was epic, except for section 4. what a long nightmare of a day.
I loved the WY BDR. I will do it again soon. Good thing I don't live too far from there.
You're lucky to live so close. I'd love to do it again someday as well.
@@DansADV If you do it again you have to check out the fire lookout on after centennial on your way to Elk Mountain. Really awesome views from up there and it was a great place to stop for an early lunch.
Awesome work on this Father Son BDR Journey footage!
Thanks!
Impressive riding on those big bikes boys!
Thanks
Great video, love the scenes, music and narration. Loved it!
Thank you! And thanks for watching and commenting.
from the UK we have visited Wyoming a number of times - mainly stayed at the Red Reflet Ranch in Ten Sleep. (Sold now so not possible to stay anymore ). Wyoming Is my favorite place on the planet, love the wide open space. People are friendly and normal as well. I ride an EXC 450 6 Day and an 890R Adventure. Thanks for sharing this video - absolutely epic !!! Due to be back in September if weather holds and I can find a rental maybe I can get some trail in.
Nice video. I like to see the Dad/son riding group, spending time with our kids doing what we love.
I chuckled a bit on your comment about hauling too much weight....with all the videos out there (which I have watched most) many many riders talk about packing light, going light, smaller bikes and so on yet so many riders still find themselves on very heavy and loaded bikes. The "what if" and " but I might need this" tends to add up. I ride bicycles, dirt bikes, adv bikes, street bikes, long distance backpacking and these activities have helped me go very minimal and it has made my remote challenging rides way more enjoyable. I've done camping BDR's in AZ, CO, and UT on my 250 dirt bike. For me it has totally changed the experiences, making the trips a blast. It was a fun exercise in cutting my gear to really critical items only, as I did when I hike 300 to 500 miles at a go.
Again, good video...thanks for taking us along.
I did the Wyoming BDR last year. Portions of it on my XR650L. Storms chased us the entire way and cut our trip short. Leaving from Fort Collins next week to do the entire BDR on my KTM 950 Adventure. I've been looking forward to this trip all year and can't wait to hit the road. Especially excited to do it on 950.
With coaching like yours I’d go to the end of the world !!! I have No skills to own a GSA(even though I do😜) but I’m starting my off road journey this week here in Arizona… New to this and wanna learn so bad cause I love being away from this worlds bs… What a better place than being on a BDR right?? Good stuff Sir!! Son might have been cussing ya the whole trio but when you’re gone he will have these memories branded in him….and that’s priceless 🫡🇺🇸🌵
Thanks! You should check out one of the guided / schooling trips put on by west38moto.com and/or go to a Bill Dragoo D.A.R.T. school billdragoo.com/. They specialize in training guys who are new to the sport to handle these big bikes off-road. All the best in your future adventures.
@@DansADV thanks will do!!
Great video. I really like your narration. Thanks.
Thank you!
Great trip, great ride, great video, makes me want to ride it so much. Thanks 👍
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching and replying.
Wow thank you amazing
Glad you liked it. Thanks
I like Rally setting 3 for gravel and double track. Gives me a little more slip for the climbs but keeps the tail enough in line when I hit gravel roads and forget I have 3x the HP of my 300
Amazing video ❤️❤️,from Coral Springs FL .
Thanks for watching!
Looks like a lot of fun. Great job on that big 1290 SAR too!
Thanks
Great video… pretty sure you passed me on your way home in the thermopolis area … I was towing my 1290 R with my Jeep gladiator.. of course I remember your sweet ride passing me
That is so wild!.. I remember seeing another gladiator with a 1290 (not something you see every day).
There is so much land, but no people way out there. I think you and your son had a nice adventure even though you didn't manage to fall down. That's outstanding! I've watched several of the BDR videos and it seems like crashing is unavoidable. In a few videos, experienced riders crashed and had to be transported out by helicopter 😢. I suppose many ADV riders would retort to my comment by saying if you don't expect to crash, then just don't ride the BDR. 35:29
Drops are to be expected, crashes... hopefully not. There is certainly an elevated risk on any motorcycle trip, but keeping speeds low and putting in the hours of training before you go makes a big difference.
Great job letting us know how far you got each day and the time it took. Planning our August 2024 WY BDR trip and this information was really helpful. Thank you!
Awesome! Thanks for watching, have a great trip!
Salut ,superbe vidéo 👍,tu roule en mode rally ,et la réponse des gaz sur quel mode ?😊bravo de le faire sur une 1290👍
Thanks for watching. Good eye to spot Rally Mode. I keep the throttle response in sport. Not sure why, I just like to leave the bike in the same setting all the time.
@@DansADV I hâve thé same bike ,thé R 2023,i drive on Rally mode ,test on rally throttle,but on thé road 😁
How did you like the transitions lens on this trip?
I love having the transition lens.... I try not to ride at night, but I've been stuck out a few times with a tinted lens and it sucks. I need tinted + sunglasses most of the time due to sensitive eyes from LASIK
Really nice job. But like the BDR creators...you also hauled camping gear for one night and ballast?
so before we get any farther in the video I have to ask. How were the Desert H/T on the big girl? I have them on my T7 and would really like to put them on my 1290SA-R for my COBDR trip next year. For me on the T7 they were really sketchy for the first 500 miles'ish. The head shake above 75 was nerve racking, but now they are fine....ON with the show and heck I may change my plans after watching this.
Okay that was amazing. Thanks for the vid
My tires are actually the MotoZ RallZ's. I'm pretty happy with them. My biggest complaint is that they are very loud on the highway, but I wear earplugs so I live with it. Been very happy with them off-road. Have them on the 890 and the 1290
@@DansADV I’m sorry I thought I saw Desert H/T🤦♂️. But the RallZ would be better for the big 1290. I ran the Adventure for the UTBDR this year and they were great. Man those Desert H/T are much louder than the Adventure. I always wear earplugs as well and my son was on the T7, we were doing 75/80 and i could easily hear those tires humming away. Anyway, thanks for your time
Question, same route, but with the 1290 SAS, other than skid plate, crash bars and maybe 50/50 tires being added, or not, would you have done it with the S version or make additional changes?
I suspect the S version would be fine, provided decent tires. I did not do the expert sections due to time constraints and my sons relative inexperience so I can't speak to those. You may have to take a few sections slower with the less suspension travel and pick better lines thru the rocks with the smaller front wheel, but I suspect it will not be a major issue.
Heck of a video. Great ride and thanks for sharing. Which bike do you think did better?
Thank you! Great question... They are actually both my bikes... My son does not own a bike and is an infrequent rider. The 890 will be easier in the technical stuff without a doubt. It doesn't lack much in comfort on road either so it's probably the more ideal BDR bike. However, I really enjoy the 1290... it was perfect for the WYBDR. I never dropped it. But we did skip the expert sections. (I'm not an expert, and my son certainly is not and we had time constraints, wanted to finish all 8 sections and get home).
@@DansADV I currently own a 22 890 ADVR & I have been thinking abut upgrading to the 1290. I just feel more comfortable on it and a little more planted. I have only ridden the 1290 SADV S model, but they are quite similar in size. Thanks again for sharing and look forward to more amazing videos.
@@DevinOrr I do have a video on my channel comparing the two... if you're interested
Love the video! I to have a 23' SAR and will also be doing the WYBDR this September. If I may ask do you recall what tire pressure you ran in your tires? Did you oil your chain during the trip or do you think its unnecessary? Thanx! Cheers from Denver Colorado!
I run 25-28 PSI both front and back. I do take a chain lube/cleaner and brush, but typically only use it once in the middle of the trip. To be honest, I don't know how necessary it is, I feel like it's generally recommended every 500 to 1000 miles.
@@DansADV thanx for the reply
What type of chest pack are you using???
It's the chest rig from mosko moto that goes with their wildcat backpack.
Enjoyed the video, I’d like to do it on my 1290 one day. What visor extension are you using and does it work decently? Seems like I’ve heard some don’t stay on. Thanks from Michigan
These aren't cheap, but they work well, used them on several bikes, never had them come off. Puig Clip-On Windscreen Visor
SKU: 945995
Color: Clear
Size: SM
@@DansADV thank you very much
Let me ask you a question: I have an 2019 Africa Twin that I lowered the suspension 50mm, which is 1.9 inches, what is the minimum amount of clearance a bike should have? The bike came with 9.8 inches and I lowered it down to 7.8 so I could easily put both feet on the ground. I'm mostly a street rider but I plan on starting off road riding this year. Comments or recommendations?
If you ride gravel roads and easy jeep trails, ground clearance will not come into the equation. If you're just getting started, my advice would be to continue to ride what you have and make sure you have a good skid plate. I'd get some training if you can't attend a class... I subscribed to "Say No Slow" by Chris Birch... he has some really great videos to help you transition to off-road riding. Once you start hitting your skid plate enough, you'll know it's probably time to raise your bike back up. Either that, or you'll find yourself bottoming out too often when hitting pot holes and rough terrain due to the limited suspension travel. Bottoming out at speed is a safety concern as it throws the bike of line and makes it hard to control. Long term, as your skills progress, being able to put both feed down will not be as big of a concern and you can probably raise your bike back up.
Great trip gays. Slightly trivial question-are you using the Garmin Zumo XT2? If so, what did you think of it?
Still running the XT.
I love my xt2 and would highly recommend.
Was this standard route or expert mixed in ?
All standard
We saw a guy dragging a 20' camper through that rocky crap on section 7. I guess he just had to get to that lake.
Crazy
10,600 ft?? Dude, you're not out of shape! You just need a few days.
from Italy fantastik dad e son... one trip amazin