Graven Full Release Review - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @Jarekthegamingdragon
    @Jarekthegamingdragon  11 месяцев назад +15

    Buy Graven Here! bit.ly/Jarek_GRAVEN_Steam
    I have a lot of fun streaming, if you want to hang out, follow my twitch! www.twitch.tv/jarek4gamingdragon

  • @Gggmanlives
    @Gggmanlives 11 месяцев назад +47

    I love how we both had the exact same experience with the library ghost haha

    • @Jarekthegamingdragon
      @Jarekthegamingdragon  11 месяцев назад +17

      So many people have told me the same thing haha

    • @shannonbayley3684
      @shannonbayley3684 6 месяцев назад

      Gman! My dude. My fav reviewer 🇦🇺 you should be reviewing more current releases to get that view count up, even though I prefer your nostalgia reviews.

  • @masterchief44004
    @masterchief44004 11 месяцев назад +54

    I appreciate you being honest despite the sponsor.
    This level of transparency is pretty rare on youtube and is one of the reasons your channel remains one of my favorites

  • @johannlabertaler6095
    @johannlabertaler6095 11 месяцев назад +43

    Just a quick shoutout again to Zortch, a cheap oldschool shooter that ticks all the right boxes and genuinely feels like it came directly from late 90s/early 2000s! Not just the graphics, but gameplay and gamedesign as well. It's just 5$ and is really worth your money. I absolutely love it and it definitely needs more coverage, it's really, really good. If any of you is a fan of this kind of games, try it, it's absolutely worth your time.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 11 месяцев назад +2

      I enjoyed what I played of it but dropped it to play Cultic which I liked a lot.

    • @FairyRat
      @FairyRat 11 месяцев назад +1

      Zortch is brilliant.

  • @sebs-shenanigans
    @sebs-shenanigans 11 месяцев назад +63

    Fun fact about Betrayer: It was made by some of the FEAR devs.
    I actually really like that game, its unique, its wierd and at some moments - scary

    • @sebs-shenanigans
      @sebs-shenanigans 11 месяцев назад

      @@8AIGHT8 Uhm
      Why is this individual having what appears to be a full on mental breakdown in my reply section?
      Everything alright?

  • @ShadesMan
    @ShadesMan 10 месяцев назад +2

    I like Graven and Wrath, and am playing both concurrently. I still get stuck in Graven sometimes but ah well, I'll look online if that happens. I go in fully understanding it plays more Diablo-like, with an inventory and 'belt' for your on-hand weapons (and health).

  • @g-rantfederal
    @g-rantfederal 11 месяцев назад +4

    I appreciate how transparent you are about the sponsorship

  • @TheMC1102
    @TheMC1102 11 месяцев назад +21

    "Graven is a game that's been in early access for quite a while"
    And maybe it should still be there.

    • @DARK_DEEP
      @DARK_DEEP 11 месяцев назад +1

      Why. I dont get it, ppl just keep quote that "eraly access as a bad thing", but they just never played good games that have had released after, subnautica for example

  • @cepheus3d
    @cepheus3d 11 месяцев назад +16

    I played the game back in it's demo form, and it's unfortunate that they haven't touched up the combat or level design. It felt like the game tried to be both Dark Messiah: Might and Magic and Heretic, while not quite getting right either. I instantly noticed problems with the spells, their limited amount, and being ONLY used for puzzles. They should've given players more creative choices in handling problems and enemies alike, instead of giving you so many versions of a crossbow. Kudos to whoever did the art direction though, cause the game looks fantastic and really captures the vibe of a cursed swamp backwater with gothic elements.

  • @nescumzwei
    @nescumzwei 11 месяцев назад +10

    I would say give Blood West a shot if you want something like Betrayer. That is the closest game I've seen to that.

  • @astrea555
    @astrea555 11 месяцев назад +10

    I wish it was an immersive sim. Back when it was announced it really looked like an immersive sim to me. Instead, you just get a few generic puzzsles and bad combat

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 11 месяцев назад

      Maybe check out Blood West if you haven't.

  • @Zappieroth
    @Zappieroth 11 месяцев назад +5

    Oh I have been eyeing this for years.
    Had no idea it was close to release.
    Hope the issues get fixed and will buy the game when they do.

  • @spankymagee
    @spankymagee 11 месяцев назад +32

    That thimbnail upset me highly. It looked just like Soul Reaver and made me excited for a split second beleiving there was a new sequel finally after 2 decades.

    • @Lord_Deimos
      @Lord_Deimos 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't trust them at all to deliver a good LoK game

  • @Tribalquake
    @Tribalquake 11 месяцев назад +3

    I REALLY hope the devs patch these issues. I've been waiting to buy this game for years, but in this state it's unplayable.

  • @Tarquin47
    @Tarquin47 11 месяцев назад +9

    Was this review made using the post-EA build of the game? Hopefully if it is they'll take your criticisms on board and put out a combat rebalance, seems to be the biggest issue so far aside from the maps being a bit too expansive.

  • @Badhero4
    @Badhero4 11 месяцев назад +11

    I'll pick this up AFTER I finish Wrath.

    • @cyborgparrot1996
      @cyborgparrot1996 11 месяцев назад +5

      I hope Wrath will be good.

    • @Badhero4
      @Badhero4 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@cyborgparrot1996 If the 1st hub is the baseline, then I'm sure it will be fine.

    • @MaitreMechant
      @MaitreMechant 11 месяцев назад

      @@cyborgparrot1996 wrath went through devlopment hell with a part of the team leaving and new devs aboard so I really don't expect anything from it either

  • @jeffwilson9712
    @jeffwilson9712 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you so much for making an honest review even though it is sponsored. This is why you are one of my top favorite game review channels! Keep up the great work Jarek!

  • @RichterBelmont12
    @RichterBelmont12 11 месяцев назад +1

    I don't comment much but 13:27 I wholeheartedly agree with this. Its one of the main reasons I've quit my LP Project on this game its very very annoying having to start at the HUB every single time you stop to take a break from recording and all that progress gone. Hexen never had this problem. honestly its the first time in years that I felt very annoyed.

  • @nescumzwei
    @nescumzwei 11 месяцев назад +4

    As someone who got it on release, the mixed is most likely from its first Early Access version. That was, bluntly started, rather crap. The complaints you have? They were there, but almost everything in it was busted.
    This 1.0 version sounds like it has still has a bunch of bugs. The big swamp zombie boss was not like that when I battled it, so something sounds amiss.
    I'm going to guess give it a month or so for the devs to iron out the bugs that are still in the game. Well, provided they can fix the bugs if Embracer don't close them down.

  • @Maggerama
    @Maggerama 11 месяцев назад +2

    I think I could look past the flaws? Dunno, I'd prefer to wait in case they'd fix them eventually. So far, looks like they've wasted (again, not forever) a perfectly fine setting and fantastic visuals on several poorly implemented or outright bad ideas. Thanks a lot, Jarek! You told me exactly what I wanted to know.

  • @Fregler
    @Fregler 11 месяцев назад +1

    This sounds almost entirely like Hexen 2, the good and the bad, mostly.
    Might check it out after a few patches since I love Hexen 2.
    Also, a huge thanks for telling about Betrayer I did wonder where that game went.

  • @agbrenv
    @agbrenv 11 месяцев назад +5

    I'm surprised you covered this game (I know you explain why you did), fantasy FPSs didn't seem like the kind of games you would normally check out, since to my knowledge you haven't covered Amid Evil which is actually amazing, the game I mean, not the fact that you haven't reviewed it :P

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 11 месяцев назад

      Good to hear, I bought a friend Cultic so he got me Amid Evil for Xmas. Haven't played it yet.

    • @agbrenv
      @agbrenv 11 месяцев назад

      @@Gatorade69 it's awesome believe me, if you got it for this Xmas, that means it also includes the Expansion Pack, which is also great :)

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 11 месяцев назад

      @@agbrenv If you haven't checked out Cultic I would also highly recommend Cultic. Like Blood meets Resident Evil 4. And yeah, it has the expansion.

  • @ufuk5872
    @ufuk5872 11 месяцев назад

    I got the turtle key and couldnt find what ever what to open it with and gave up.

  • @robertfilomeo346
    @robertfilomeo346 11 месяцев назад +1

    the physics actually look more painkiller than halflife 2

  • @R3GARnator
    @R3GARnator 11 месяцев назад +5

    Definitely a game I will sit and wait to be patched as a patientgamer. Good video.

  • @kivie13
    @kivie13 8 месяцев назад

    After playing it I think you give a pretty fair review. I personally enjoyed the game immensely but understand the criticism of some of the design flaws/choices. My Biggest complaint is the lack of support fixing major bugs post launch and according to the Devs on Discord it sounds like there isn't much of as plan to do that. I suffered the Mystic bug and could only do a work around to proceed further.

  • @andrewstencel
    @andrewstencel 11 месяцев назад +3

    Yeah... doesn't look like something I'd enjoy. But if you are looking for some change of pace, I'd recommend checking out No One Lives Forever 1 and 2. They're abandonware, and their modernizer patches work pretty well, so it's an accessible experience.
    I played them both last week, and they're such forgotten gems!

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 11 месяцев назад +2

      Oh ? I owned the first game and I think I torrented the second game but didn't get far into it. Always enjoyed the first one.

  • @16mopey
    @16mopey 11 месяцев назад +3

    Jarek is the vtuber model your new way of presenting now or more something you might switch between I am just curious if you care to answer

    • @Jarekthegamingdragon
      @Jarekthegamingdragon  11 месяцев назад +6

      Full vtube. Was the plan for years. Struggled to find a good 3d artist til recently.

    • @demon-goat
      @demon-goat 11 месяцев назад

      @@Jarekthegamingdragon finally living up to your name

    • @admanwhitmer
      @admanwhitmer 11 месяцев назад

      @@JarekthegamingdragonI think it’s to hide your trailblazers gear after this awful season

    • @Jarekthegamingdragon
      @Jarekthegamingdragon  11 месяцев назад

      @@admanwhitmer ???? It's a tanking year. Did you expect them to do any thing else? This year is no where near as bad as the last 3 or so given the context. I'm glad they're finally rebuilding.

    • @admanwhitmer
      @admanwhitmer 11 месяцев назад

      @@Jarekthegamingdragon nah I’m just joking haha scoot will be better once he has guys around him. As a suns fan I do feel bad that y’all have to deal with Aytons lack of consistent effort

  • @Mattsidious
    @Mattsidious 11 месяцев назад

    I feel this needs the Quake 2 remastered compass, or something like it. Maybe some kind of navigation tome that gives you a general direction to go in.

  • @retroinspect
    @retroinspect 11 месяцев назад +3

    I enjoyed the early access version but I do think the game is confused between whether it wants to be Doom or Dark Souls/King’s Field and Embracer fired everyone who could fix it.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 11 месяцев назад

      Let me embrace you... With the hug of death.

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt 11 месяцев назад +5

    The game looks good at least. Thanks for covering it

  • @barney10240
    @barney10240 11 месяцев назад

    It's feel like the dev had a change of heart and add the skeleton (frost zombies) from serious sam on late game.

  • @viktext-o5508
    @viktext-o5508 11 месяцев назад

    Nice vid, had this game on my radar for quite some time, will definitely wait some more but I already really really love the setting, the vibes & the atmosphere it delivers.
    It was also a great pleasure to leave the 666th Like on this video, mwahahaha! 😈😈😈

  • @globbb11
    @globbb11 11 месяцев назад

    3:10 -- i laughed probably more than i should have.

  • @Calypso694
    @Calypso694 11 месяцев назад

    got it in early access for pretty cheap and for what it is i think its fine but the overly troubled development behind the scenes definitely hurt it.

  • @cipherstormwolf14
    @cipherstormwolf14 11 месяцев назад

    I own Betrayer on Steam! Good to hear it still is available.

  • @JimsMusicDungeon
    @JimsMusicDungeon 11 месяцев назад

    Woah, I didn't even notice Betrayer being removed from steam, that game was so much fun, FEAR 1 devs did a great job on it. Thank you for mentioning it's free on GOG, I and countless other people can play it again :)

  • @milos2478
    @milos2478 11 месяцев назад

    I love this channel, please do review for these unofficial commercial Quake 1 and 2 addons.:
    Malice for Quake (1997)
    Shrak for Quake (1997)
    Quake 2 Zaero (1999)
    Quake 2 Unseen ( This was a cancelled third party commercial add-on for Quake II later released online as a free mod)
    Juggernaut: The New Story for Quake II (1998)
    Nobody did youtube review for Quake 2 addons, you could be first one

  • @TheUnaBoomer
    @TheUnaBoomer 11 месяцев назад

    I saw someone review this without using any critical thinking skills and just tried to say its good, Thank you for being up the points of criticism about the game lmao.

  • @choongweijie5851
    @choongweijie5851 11 месяцев назад

    Hello again Jarek! I have another FPS game in alpha for you to review: Astro, a COD Infinite warfare-inspired multiplayer-only game. Will you review it?

    • @Jarekthegamingdragon
      @Jarekthegamingdragon  11 месяцев назад

      I mainly only cover single player games with a few exceptions. I also REALLY didn't like the advanced movement cods and tuned out of cod entirely until MW19 when old cod came back so I'm probably not the best person to cover it.

  • @enricopaolocoronado2511
    @enricopaolocoronado2511 11 месяцев назад

    "The game's not supposed to be fast."
    Give it a week or so, Oyff will somehow make Graven as fastpaced as Ultrakill and make a montage about it.

  • @soulslider5117
    @soulslider5117 11 месяцев назад

    One day, Jarek will cover Clive Barkers Undying. It has been foretold. (It's a $1.49 on gog)

  • @dylanterry3767
    @dylanterry3767 11 месяцев назад +1

    Blood west 👀👀

  • @granvillecupido9971
    @granvillecupido9971 11 месяцев назад

    Hi my brother granville here amazing video

  • @Falloutrip
    @Falloutrip 11 месяцев назад

    I played this game months ago and for me all the bad heavily outweighed the good. It's a game with an identity crisis - they need to pick a direction and lean into it 100% along with still fixing a ton of bugs and bad design.

  • @dennisdavidov782
    @dennisdavidov782 11 месяцев назад +1

    The game looks pretty good but the combat balance and save system is a major turn off for me so I'll give it a pass for now.
    BtW, another slower paced shooter worth checking out is Blood West which seems much better balanced than this game.
    You should review it given the opportunity.

  • @ShootingStar1313
    @ShootingStar1313 11 месяцев назад

    Well, even bad publicity is still publicity, am I right? 😅

  • @guard1an839
    @guard1an839 11 месяцев назад +1

    Yo, this video came out at the same time that Gman lives posted his video on the same game. Did you two coordinate that?

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 11 месяцев назад +3

      Ever hear of review embargos ?

  • @davitsk1
    @davitsk1 11 месяцев назад

    Doesn't look bad. But for me this doesn't look like a 25 euro game unfortunately.

  • @fennecfox7845
    @fennecfox7845 11 месяцев назад

    hello jarek

  • @MidasImperius
    @MidasImperius 11 месяцев назад +2

    I got this game when it first entered early access. Back then, the steam reviews were positive almost across the board.
    First few updates and devblogs came out in fairly quick succession, and the devs were seemingly very eager to keep the playerbase in the loop and up to date on what was happening and when new things would be released.
    But it didn't take long before they started missing deadlines, and taking longer and longer between updates and community posts. People started getting worried, cause the devs seemed to get really reluctant to to let people know.. anything.
    The longest lull in updates was over a year, during which time there was complete and utter radio silence from the devs. Not even any words from them in the steam discussions board. Around this time, people (me included) started to think this game was some sort of elaborate scam, that the studio had taken the money and effed off. The positive ratings on the steam store dipped into the negatives during this time, and the devs still kept quiet, as if nobody was there any more.
    My initial steam review was positive, and i flipped it to negative during the year of deafening silence. Although I flipped my review back to positive after, I see the ratings haven't improved much since then.
    This debaucle aside, I loved this game since it entered early access. And every content drop since then has been phenomenal. It looks fantastic, it sounds fantastic, and for the most part, it plays pretty well. At least up until the final update, which I haven't played yet.
    (The only problem I ever had in the library was that ghost boss thing that chases you around the place. There was no feedback on whether or not I did any damage to it, so I assumed it was invincible, until I got pissed at it and unloaded nearly all my ammo into it, at which point it actually died. Be nice if they made that boss fight more obvious.)

    • @MidasImperius
      @MidasImperius 11 месяцев назад

      Ah glad to see I wasn't the only one having problems with that library ghost.
      And I'm sad that the devs didn't learn from that boss' problems, and seemingly made the swamp boss even more annoying. Fun.

    • @Daniel__Nobre
      @Daniel__Nobre 11 месяцев назад

      The game needs to be user tested. Not just taking the community feedback, which taken literally will take development to extreme and sometimes opposite directions even, but actually invite people to play it while watching over the shoulder and asking the player to think aloud.
      Because it reminds me a lot of mods, which are done in a limited way and resources, so usually the devs can only infer how players are going to interact based on their own experience of their own levels and systems (meaning if you don’t match their mental model as a player you’ll probably struggle to find the puzzle solutions or navigate the levels).

  • @Boildroid
    @Boildroid 11 месяцев назад

    after fast paced boomer shooter sometimes soul wants slow paced shooter for example Graven or Sniper