My Report: I Can't Believe The Amount of Hate GRAVEN Gets

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @ZlimBratSki
    @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +16

    Thank you for watching! Hope you enjoy the video, a bit longer than my regular reviews, but there is a lot to talk about and a lot of Zlim that wants to charm you to forever be subbed to the channel
    Know this going in to the review though.
    This game will not hold your hand, it wont show you the ropes. It expects you to experiment, read and solve. The magic of the game is Discoverability and the sense of reward, meaning take your time, don't feel rushed and soak it in, slowly.

  • @fwv-gx8pj
    @fwv-gx8pj 7 месяцев назад +7

    Hey zlim. Just wanted to say that your video's are very nice. I love this genre of games and i have been looking for a long time for a channel dedicated to it!

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you so much! Very happy to hear that! :)

  • @anttrax
    @anttrax 7 месяцев назад +3

    Great review! I bought this in early access like two years ago and finally got to play 1.0 today for a bit after work. Only 20-30 minutes in and am sick of breaking barrels! 😂. But I know this will be a long, fun ride so it’s worth it!

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks man! Ah man the barrels!!!!! I've come to realize that it is worth using your fire spell on them, even though you drain some mana, you keep your sanity haha

  • @lechiffre5078
    @lechiffre5078 7 месяцев назад +3

    “GRAAAVEN”. Sounds badass.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      I know!! More video game things like that in video games please! 😄

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn 7 месяцев назад +6

    I like game areas with shortcuts that you can open as you progress. Neat crossbow too ps and the graphics are way gooder rhan i thought

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +2

      Considering the Blood West right now Thommy, I think this is either the perfect game to jump into right after or the worst thing imaginable. Both the games require a lot from you but this one even more so but not combat wise instead exploring and thinking wise :D

    • @ThommyofThenn
      @ThommyofThenn 7 месяцев назад

      @@ZlimBratSki there's almost a kind of puzzle vibe im noticing. There are wide open areas and little outposts with enemies patrolling. Then you have to decide to either fight, stealth attack or avoid fighting entirely and use only sneak. I used a combination of the three approaches in a barn type structure earlier. Saw a bunch of enemies in the front yard, so I pulled back and circled around. Turned out there was a narrow staircase in the back, so I snuck up there and got some great items (some very cool potion effects) then I waited for an enemy to come close and lured them into the barn where I was waiting with the revolver loaded with cursed gold rounds :D

  • @jeremyroberge1570
    @jeremyroberge1570 7 месяцев назад +6

    This game looks beautiful! I see what you're saying about the diablo vibes. It's missing pack density and faster cast rate though. 😅

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Oh yeah def! Gameplay wise it doesn't feel much like Diablo, but at mere glance and just sucking in the atmosphere I couldn't help but get the Diablo vibes :D

  • @Shaman1
    @Shaman1 7 месяцев назад +9

    this reminds me so much of hexen, wrath aeon of ruin was amazing too, looking forward to this one. if you like these hub style worlds with quests and puzzles, i can recommend hedon as well (crystal heart & bloodrite)

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +2

      Oh yeah it def reminds a lot of Hexen, but to me the Diablo feeling was just out of this world. I couldn't shake the feeling :D
      I played some Hedon, I love it :D

    • @ThommyofThenn
      @ThommyofThenn 7 месяцев назад +1

      After Wizordum was constantly called a "Heretic" style game, it's nice to see a game that more truly embodies the vibe of Hex/Heretic

    • @jedimindtrickonyou3692
      @jedimindtrickonyou3692 7 месяцев назад +2

      Shout out to Hedon Bloodrite, more people need to try that game. Its amazing.

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn 7 месяцев назад +4

    Zlim saying "graven," is like the new "PURGING PURGE PURGE," in the Bratski fandom

  • @kalmath_
    @kalmath_ 7 месяцев назад +3

    Huge shoutout for your content, creativity and your presentation of Graven (*Graaaaaaven.*)
    I think I'd love this game :D

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks man! I appreciate that!

  • @speedincooper
    @speedincooper 7 месяцев назад +2

    Glad you liked it Zlim. I remember trying the EA release a few months back and honestly wasn't very impressed. Combat was dull and AI dumb. The weapons didn't feel right and the levels were open and boring. And the godamn barrels man. Really breaks the pace

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      It's a lot more polished then the EA version, but I totally understand how the can wont appeal everyone :) the open world, general pace and so on is still the same, so if those things were not for you I'd say skip this one :)

  • @Szederp
    @Szederp 7 месяцев назад +2

    Retitled? Very ambitious project indeed. Starts out like Heretic 1 / 2 but then evolves into something else. Too bad the Devs did not listen to a word we players said about the saving system and the game is already rated as "mixed" on Steam. I had so much hope for this game, let's see if it delivers.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, people didn't really understand I meant the atmosphere and feel of the game with the Diablo reference. So I added it in the description as well. Been getting numerous messages of people stating it does not play like diablo lol

  • @keanmccracken7638
    @keanmccracken7638 7 месяцев назад +1

    I remember when graven was revealed, it became one of my most anticipated games and has remained so. I personally really liked the ea even though I know many didn't.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Same, seems like in the minority, but I had a danm good time with this game

  • @MasterSoto
    @MasterSoto 7 месяцев назад +2

    Been following this one since the demo. Been waiting so long! Looks awesome, hope it's better than other Slipgate Ironworks releases of late!

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      It's def not without it's fair share of jank, it's there but it's nothing that ruins the experience imo. Best thing 3DR released since it re formed in denmark

    • @MasterSoto
      @MasterSoto 7 месяцев назад +1

      @ZlimBratSki I can handle a bit of the jank. 😉 Worse is a game-breaking bug or some softlock that leaves you standing there like an ass and not being able to progress in a game. 😂

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@MasterSoto There were softlocks in certain review copies mine included, but as late as yesterday I again got confirmation that it has been re solved. Thats why I never mention them in the review, because it's not reflecting the experience you will have :)

  • @jackdoobie
    @jackdoobie 7 месяцев назад +2

    That one looks fun... thanks again Zlim.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for your comment and checking the vid out 🤜🤛

  • @nescumzwei
    @nescumzwei 7 месяцев назад +2

    I got this on release and, I have to be blunt and honest, the first Early Access version was kinda crap. It is likely one of the reasons the reviews on Steam are mixed. A very Slipgate Ironworks moment where their first showing to the public was not particularly fantastic *coughKingpinPhantomFurycough*. From everything I've seen (and from reviewers like you) it looks like they have really polished this up. Can't wait to give it a shot!

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I totally agree on this, no denying that at all. But what they managed to craft in the end is a great experience, could use a bit more polish but nothing broke the experience the way it did in EA :)

  • @evadum4149
    @evadum4149 7 месяцев назад +1

    The multiplayer was not working on Graven and i wrote slipgate ironworks, and this morning y e a h ! It works ;) fantastic

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      Awesome! :) You can see some coop footage in my review so it was working for me, but I read there was some issues I could have been lucky :)

  • @MrMadXenomorph
    @MrMadXenomorph 7 месяцев назад +1

    Are you going to cover Get To The Orange Door and Splitgate? My inner perfectionist cries a little when seeing you review basically every modern indie shooter except for these two 😅

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      Get to the orange door is on my list, at this point I'm just waiting for the 1.0 release. Splitgate might get a live community night but not a review :)

  • @obatzda
    @obatzda 7 месяцев назад +1

    Very good review, great quality video overall. Definitly a game for my wishlist.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks man! ❤️🤘

  • @mirkociapponi964
    @mirkociapponi964 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hello, for you its a good game? I loved Hexen 2 and Heretic 1 and 2

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hey! Yes if you love Hexen this will be right up your alley! :)

  • @danielx1224
    @danielx1224 7 месяцев назад +2

    Zlim does the game have difficulty settings? I'm the type of gamer that likes to usually pick the hardest difficulty otherwise I don't feel challenged.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      It does, I explain it in the video. the difficulty does not change health or damage numbers but the amount of enemies on the map and the death penalty :)

  • @KaoshiSan
    @KaoshiSan 7 месяцев назад +2

    I remember playing an alpha/beta of this years ago and quite liked it, was holding on for the full release but seeing that it has multiplayer made me want it right now XD
    Have they said if this will get a Big Box edition? or did I miss it already? still waiting for the Wrath one...

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Awesome to hear that! The 1.0 is def an even better experience then the EA :)
      Hmm no I haven't heard anything of a big box for this one unfortunately

    • @KaoshiSan
      @KaoshiSan 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@ZlimBratSki Thank for the quick reply! also I'd like to add that I do see it having the same atmosphere as Diablo since I read some of the other comments misinterpreted it.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      @@KaoshiSan Glad to hear that! 😁

  • @thekillingjoke8982
    @thekillingjoke8982 7 месяцев назад +2

    The only criticism i share is that the game is overbarreled 😁No, seriously, they should have put one or two more waysigns up and put more resources into barrels and then reducing their amount per level. In the EA it felt very tedious to break them all. And i had to, because why should i skip resources? Other than that everything i saw looked good. Great even. Some of the levels even have a cautiously cozy look. i can imagine sitting in that library for some hours.
    ---
    Now i can see why you said you want to take more time for the videos, that was a good idea for sure. Quality went up, together with the charm and editing work.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      There is no skipping resources in my brain, I constantly walk over ammo I'm full on and as soon as I see a barrel my barbarian brain goes "SMASH" :D
      Oh man it's so cosy, that's what I mean with calm stress free moments to actually just read, it's done thanks to it's incredible atmosphere and environments :)
      Thanks man I appreciate that, I'm being extremely self critical towards the video right now, but thanks man

  • @Holy_Light65
    @Holy_Light65 7 месяцев назад +1

    I got this game in a humble bundle awhile ago,
    When was still in early access

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      Sweet!! Will you jump in to the 1.0?

    • @Holy_Light65
      @Holy_Light65 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ZlimBratSki well I mean sure, I haven't try it yet, I will get to it some day maybe. Just i have too many games to play 😅

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      @@Holy_Light65 no rush, jump into this one when you have time, it will require your full attention 😁

  • @Rastloese
    @Rastloese 7 месяцев назад +1

    Looking forward to go exploring!

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Don't forget to grab your Indiana Jones Boots! :D

  • @Mauser_.
    @Mauser_. 7 месяцев назад +2

    Such a gorgeous game! Thanks for the fantastic video 😍😍

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it 😁

    • @DSPsWifesBF
      @DSPsWifesBF 6 месяцев назад

      Loved the aesthetics and dark fantasy aspects, but the gameplay didn’t live up to the hype I heard

  • @AndrewD8Red
    @AndrewD8Red 7 месяцев назад +2

    Really looking forward to getting this one... bugs and kinks notwithstanding.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      I honestly think you will enjoy this one, just remember this: This game will not hold your hand, it wont show you the ropes. It expects you to experiment, read and solve. The magic of the game is discoverability and the sense of reward, meaning take your time, don't feel rushed and soak it in, slowly.
      Understand this and you will see the magic of the game, it was not clear as day to me in an instant. But I did get to me, and it got me good!

    • @AndrewD8Red
      @AndrewD8Red 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ZlimBratSki
      That kind of game is absolutely my jam, thank you for your expert eye as always!

  • @danielx1224
    @danielx1224 7 месяцев назад +1

    Not able to watch the full video atm, but quick question, what are the important improvements from early access? Been excited for this one but I heard mixed reviews from the early access version.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      The most important of them all is less bugs, other than that the map is gone, some puzzles a little easier, a little more hints :)

  • @morkgin2459
    @morkgin2459 7 месяцев назад +1

    This game feels like a fantasy boomer shooter role playing immersive sim to me after looking gameplays

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      Yupp, a pretty good way of putting it :)

  • @freemanuseruser
    @freemanuseruser 7 месяцев назад +1

    in GRAVEN, in GRAVEN, in GRAVEN
    it sound in style like FATALITY from MK

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      GRAVEN Fatality, I like it!

  • @SinaelDOverom
    @SinaelDOverom 7 месяцев назад +1

    Huh. I don't remember it having stats, randomised loot or procedurally generated locations, AKA the key features that make Diablo out of Diablo?

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +3

      I mean the atmosphere, I tried making it clear in the video, but perhaps its not clear enough :)

  • @trobriandstorm
    @trobriandstorm 7 месяцев назад +1

    Just bought it before 1.0, most of the fuzz is about the lack of map and its weird inventory system. Not a big deal if the level design and the shooting mechanics are good.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +4

      Oh a word of warning, with the 1.0 update your save files run the risk of getting corrupt, so don't play to much until the 1.0 update tomorrow! Also totally agree, the inventory has it's function of being a risk/reward system and it works. It's not a hassle by any means, and the map is not needed as each area is so distinct from another you do recognize where you are and the name of the location pops up every time you enter it :)

    • @trobriandstorm
      @trobriandstorm 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ZlimBratSki Good to know, i just don't touch it until tomorrow then.

  • @ZFCaio
    @ZFCaio 7 месяцев назад +2

    For me this is like the spiritual successor of HEXEN
    What do you think?
    I never played the first HeXen (maybe tried on N64, but I am not sure), but I had a ton of fun on HeXen II on PC, a hell of a game...

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      Def a lot of Hexen DNA in the game! But I just couldn't shake the insane strong Diablo vibes the game gave off :D

  • @anonytuser711
    @anonytuser711 7 месяцев назад +1

    There's no map and I have no idea where to go. The weapons are redundant and kind of lame. And the barrels. So many barrels.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Read the journal and do some exploring and I'm sure you will figure it out, if I can I'm positive anyone can. But I agree at times the game needs better guidance, its exhausting playing for long sessions.
      Each weapon serves a purpose, experiment, don't be afraid and you will start putting them to good use. (Think video game logic)

  • @Lulasz
    @Lulasz 7 месяцев назад +1

    Nice to hear a positive take! Game has been garnering a lot of criticisim....

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      I lay down some criticism at the end of the video but overall, the game is not deserving of the amount its received imo. Not the best game out there but far, far from the worst.

  • @gtrzmbe9390
    @gtrzmbe9390 7 месяцев назад +2

    I love these imm sim/boomer shooter hybrids. Also........Graven.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Haha nice, graven is deserving of loved imo

  • @Osh_93
    @Osh_93 7 месяцев назад +1

    8 hours in now.. gosh! amazing gaem!

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      Someone get's the game! And let me tell ya it just get's better and better! :D

  • @samv2023
    @samv2023 7 месяцев назад +2

    Something I love about your reviews man is your positivity and enthusiasm - you really help to stir up excitement for a game so that's really cool!
    Your video seems incomplete though ...? It ends really abruptly at 16:17 - was that intentional? It doesn't seem like it was.
    About the game, though, it looks amazing and fills me with wonder and wanting to explore - and I love that in a game
    No map, and instead you have to learn the level, use the journal and play detective ... - that sounds awesome! But certainly means the level design and the journal entries have to be really well designed - sounds like they almost are - I suspect I'll still have to use walkthroughs
    The AI does look kind of bad though right? - like they've all got zombie AI or something
    The stamina bar, weapon swapping, spells against enemies and weapon bar are all a shame - I hope they get patched or modded
    The physics seem kind of strange eh? Like you're in low gravity or something - not sure if that's a plus or a minus though, maybe it's fun :D
    The barrel issue sounds funny haha! I usually have to completely pillage every area to go into when I'm playing a game so too many barrels could annoy me also!

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks man! If I like something and I genuinely had a good time I want that to show, so I'm glad it is! 😁 The video ends abruptly as an experiment, to test the retention, the 10 seconds of showing other videos hurts that a lot :/
      This game really trusts you the player to figure things out, I mean everything, at times the amount of guidance is just enough and perfect, other times it lacks, and you do get exhausted after a while. But the sense of reward and discoverability is absolutely insane. At first I doubted i'd even get through the game seeing as there are no guides when I played, but hekk I made it!
      The A.I is at times very stupid, yupp. But it works, it will offer a challenge.
      The physics are not bad apart from smashing the barrels 😂

    • @samv2023
      @samv2023 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ZlimBratSki cool! I'm looking forward to trying it out

  • @iamvigant
    @iamvigant 7 месяцев назад +1

    Digging the visual style and diablo-like music! I think I'll grab this on a sale when it's fixed up :)

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      Sweet! Check my latest youtube community post for fixing up :)

  • @danielx1224
    @danielx1224 7 месяцев назад +1

    GRAAAAAVEN!!

  • @ghost085
    @ghost085 7 месяцев назад +1

    You saying this is like Diablo makes me think of looter shooters, which is a turn off. Mechanic-wise is it more like Diablo or more like Hexen?

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Oh no no no! Not a looter shooter by any means at all! much more like Hexen, I'm aware it's a bit unclear, my apologies. The atmosphere, music and ambience is a lot like diablo, gameplay wise not so much

    • @newportbiden
      @newportbiden 7 месяцев назад +3

      he meant diablo in terms of atmosphere the gameplay is more similar to hexen

    • @ghost085
      @ghost085 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ZlimBratSki Great! I'm really looking forward for this game coming out this week, its like Hexen made in the Unreal 1 engine. BTW, is this the final build or will it remain in Early Access?

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ghost085 this is the final build :) roughly 15-20h long depending on amount of exploration and puzzle skills

    • @ghost085
      @ghost085 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ZlimBratSki Thanks for always answering our comments 👍

  • @t0mbst0neyt
    @t0mbst0neyt 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm about to start Rantin' and (g)RAVEN'!

  • @olivergarcia2304
    @olivergarcia2304 7 месяцев назад +2

    Can't wait for full release.
    I wonder what happened to a game I really want called: Wrath: Aeon of Ruin.
    Do you, by any chance, have any news on this game?

    • @beastlybeast2716
      @beastlybeast2716 7 месяцев назад +4

      Full release comes out at the end of next month bro

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +4

      Oh yeah it drops in 1.0 on feb 27 I will talk more about it in my next video dropping :D

  • @AndroidFerret
    @AndroidFerret 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why are they hating on this game ?

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      I think a lot of people fail to see what type of a game it is, and that makes them not like it because it's not what they expect :/

  • @cjak4682
    @cjak4682 7 месяцев назад +1

    Först Pörson Shooter

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +1

      Färst Pärson Shuuter

  • @arkgaharandan5881
    @arkgaharandan5881 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is the most anticipated game of 2024, because you know, 2024 looks dull in terms of games. I hope its better than blood west the swamps in that game put me off, they should have been less empty like how this game does them. i would compare it to hexen 2 not diablo, there is a doom mod that is basically diablo from first person view.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад

      The environments and overall level design is a whole different story in this game, but instead of empty, too much barrels lol.
      The game is fantastic, not without it's jank here and there but nothing that breaks the experience. Read my pinned comment, I feel like many people missunderstands the game and the comment/review helps.
      The Diablo reference is mostly due to the atmosphere, I mean the act 2 music is more or less straight influenced by Diablo. In terms of gameplay it's hexen, but I didn't mention that as either you don't know what it is, or you do know and that this game takes a lot from it.

    • @arkgaharandan5881
      @arkgaharandan5881 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@ZlimBratSki yeah, it reminds me of shadow warrior and BioShock infinite that i had to pick up every single dime i found just to have as much money as possible for upgrading.

  • @TravisTheRudyFox
    @TravisTheRudyFox 7 месяцев назад +4

    Paid review, the game is absolute mess 3/10 at max.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +4

      Lol not paid and no

    • @ZeroHxC07
      @ZeroHxC07 2 месяца назад +1

      Furry opinion detected, opinion dejected.

    • @TravisTheRudyFox
      @TravisTheRudyFox 2 месяца назад

      @@ZeroHxC07 *rejected

    • @ZeroHxC07
      @ZeroHxC07 2 месяца назад

      @@TravisTheRudyFox thanks dog man

  • @thomasneal9291
    @thomasneal9291 7 месяцев назад +2

    for a modern game, it actually looks terribly pixelated without being intentionally so. even your attempts at salesmanship do little to cover this. no wonder you always use such short clips.

    • @ZlimBratSki
      @ZlimBratSki  7 месяцев назад +7

      It's very much intentional to look that way lol.. I didn't try to hide it for a second, it looks gorgeous with its retro styled pixelated graphics. The short clips are for other reasons.

    • @eternalfaeri1415
      @eternalfaeri1415 7 месяцев назад +6

      You can’t seriously think that lol. It looks good and it’s definitely intentional.

    • @thekillingjoke8982
      @thekillingjoke8982 7 месяцев назад +3

      Are you feeling okay? Short clips? There's no minimum or maximum requirement.