Jim Cornette on Referee Aubrey Edwards' Thoughts On Legal Tags
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- From Episode 186 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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She trained herself watching indy trash, that's the only explanation.
Actually she won't bite the hand that feeds her is the more likely explanation
Actually not to defend her but I remember seeing this whole tagging someone with any part above their waist thing for the first time wayyy back in WWE with Jericho and Big Show. They did it a whole lot from what I recall.
@@andreelmatacoronavirusquin1322 Actually Actually Actually
I remember her taking a couple of DDTs from Jake The Snake at a JCW show.
She learned it at Pro Wrestling Guerrilla.
AEW marks hate Cornette for wanting realism, when it was Cody and Tony Kahn who initially said over and over how they wanted their company to be more like sports lol
This 1000%
What was there claim? Oh yea, wins and loses matter here!! I call bullshit!! It’s just shitty!!!
True but these people grew up on this Vince McMahon concept of what wrestling is since 2002 they look at you like your crazy if you present pro wrestling with a realistic approach
@@dontabaltimore1974 what’s realistic about refs letting talent do whatever they want?
@@marvingamez9057 that's like when they say though the rough knows how important this matches that's why they're not counting on what are disqualifying but that's not their job right
Either they don't understand the psychology, or they don't respect our intelligence. Wait, which promotion am i talking about??
Shit - great point!
At this point, it's interchangable.
Take your pick lol
Lol
AEW don't respect the psychology
WWE don't respect the intelligence as they try to appeal more to children
"Fuck it. There's no rhyme or reason to any of this shit." Says it all
Yep. The world is also like that right now.
yup
true that
“Knew a girl from Virginia we called her Virgin for short but not for long”
I love you Jimmy lol
Didn't even ask for permission.
@@itsyourenotyour9101 ?
I remember Corny saying that.LOL
@@bradpaton3927 by any chance do you remember which promo that was from? 😂
I can’t and I wanna hear it word for word
I could remember an Eddie Guerrero tag match where he kept interfering and the ref walked him back to his corner and made him hold the white rope.
Or when he loosened the rope to make it longer 🤣🤣
Eddie was the best.
It's 2021 and Jim Cornette still has to explain the basics to AEW
It's not wwe aew thing Everyday there is new comers or some are just watching for fun don't care about rules. People need to stop this behaviour ooh you should know this bla bla.
@@yooanto9465 Its not fun to watch when they don't know what they're doing
That said it's better than a lot of what the WWF is putting out now.
It's 2024 and still no one understands AEW.
My favorite would be Taker waiting to get tagged in pacing back & forth like a rabid dog stomping the ring mat punching the turnbuckle
Yep
With Roman Reigns @ Extreme Rules or back when his matches could ALL still be good?
Was that when he poured the whole bottle
Of water over himself? Lol
@@bradpaton3927 No, it was at a House Show.
@@brothernero2310 👌
Who else remembers FTR having a special contract that would make their tag opponents have to follow the rules of tag wrestling, like holding onto the tag rope? That was a thing... but it's been missing for a long ass time.
Outlaw mud shows don't have rules obviously
She was trained at the performance center
The worst is when you have more than two tag teams in the match and a person from a different team hits a backslap tag on somebody in the ring. Why the fuck would that be legal lol
I remember back in the Attitude Era, they’d put two people in a team that were feuding and they’d tag themselves in with the backslaps. Maybe that’s where people thought it was legal?
@@Meatwad00 well WWE legitimized the backslap. oh well.
Yeah, okay. I was legit confused when Jim said back slaps were not legal. Like Ive been seeing back slaps for years.
@@Hillthugsta Yeah it's become normal for sure
Even the instagram guy knows more than the aew refs
You know a wrestling company ran by millionaires and smarky wrestling fans doesn’t work when they don’t know the proper basics of tag team rules. All those tag teams and yet don’t know how the rules work. Take it as an example with the 2001 Lakers. A stacked team but if they didn’t know how to play they would look bad
@@angelyaluhhhh9130wasn’t that the playoff series where the Kings were completely robbed by crooked refs?
What is it with AEW employees and wanting to change things in wrestling that have been there for decades?
First it was Cody saying "faces and heels are passe terms", probably the stupidest thing ever said by someone in the business, his Dad would have slapped him around the head 15 times if he was still alive to hear that, now it's this.
ECW at least had in their name that they were extreme so the normal rules of wrestling didn't apply.
@James No, internet marks created the term.
There are no tweeners. There are faces and heels. And their actions decide which they are.
Austin was a face. Not a white meat but still just a baby.
We don't have faces and heels, except when we do- aew..
@@MrThundaro Austin wasn't exactly a face. 'White meat', baby or anything. He never acted like a face nor bothered to be liked.
I dont care about faces and heels either, I want the product to be good and consistent. Sadly AEW was horseshit from the jump. At least other promotions start strong and decline over time. AEW started off like a joke and is getting less and less funny.
@@bajula4444 austin was more of a face than a heel. He performed a ton of heel tactics yes but he also performed just as many face tactics
I remember the 10 second changeover rule at AEW, mostly because they had JR mention it a bunch of times when the criticism started about there being too many guys in the ring too much of the time. The thing is that the changeover time wasn't the big problem. It was guys running in without tagging several times a match and staying in for long enough to do any number of moves while the ref gently waved in the background. It happened to the point where you wondered why anyone bothered waiting for a tag at all.
Any tag team match where you can't remember who the legal men are is a shit match.
It would be great if just occasionally teams were disqualified for too many run-ins too - that could easily be worked into an angle.
Any match with Death Triangle/Lucha Bros. I love PAC but I feel like him in a tag team hurts him. Too many multi-men tag matches and it'll be 5 vs 5. At the climax, you're rocking for the conclusion and then too much stuff happens to where you forget who's legal. Illegal person/people are in the ring too long to where you get confused. Example: Death Triangle vs House of Black. They had a 6 man staredown for 10 seconds before brawling in the ring for what felt like another 10 seconds before 4 of them went to the outside.
"He gave just a ice cold tag. For which I would have fired him" - Jim Cornette
😂😂😂
best example: Stunted Growth
Do they even need refs anymore? Every match is basically a 10 minute flip contest judged by Dave Meltzer.
Most are closer to 20, even if it's a champion vs someone who's never been on tv before.
😂😂
@@CockyBalboa Thats Dynamite's main event every week
I thought the Seth Freaking Rollins commenter was an attention seeking sad act but this ref takes the utter piss in attention seeking. Also noticed you can't criticise her or aew you end up blocked and the marks start giving you shit saying things like "you don't understand what wrestling is" or the famous one "go watch wwe then"
She is a good referee tbh though. The rules for tag teams and such is dumb asf though in AEW.
@Marty 2.0 I called a “wwe shop fan” because somebody said that Cody vs Dustin match was the greatest of all time 🤣 I told dude not even top 20 ever
@@thesupervisor3270 even cornette said that was a pretty good match said it was their best match
@@7ngel surely the best match either guy has had
I think she’s a wonderful person. That being said my biggest gripe is that any match she refs(that I’ve seen) she seems so animated to a comical degree. I miss the refs that would understand the technicality of wrestling and how it coincides with the pro wrestling world. Shoulder blades must be on the Mat before a count can be initiated, tags must be visually seen before the new legal man may enter, etc it felt more grounded back in the golden age and towards the attitude era with some of the best work by refs in my opinion. Aubrey again is such a wonderful person and such a hard worker but she seems to fit right in with the comical approach aew has taken which is something I can never get behind
There's literally zero rules in AEW they do what they want. The refs are absolute garbage as well. I've literally seen Adam page roll in the ring to break a count yet the ref isn't counting numerous times.
Isnt their a rule that you can break a tag 2 times in a match, If you do it more then twice it is a disqualification. or something like that?
A friend and I always joke about the refs wanting respect and just giving up when no one listens to them. Is there any reason they are even there, at this point they just count the pin and that's it. Might as well just make every match a no dq at this point.
That shit with twinkletoes and the good bros with the bucks the other day was ridiculous. They didn't even kick the illegal men out of the ring
@@Lenoxygen I swear! The Dumb Fucks were in the ring together for the longest time and a friend and I were just like "wtf count that ref"? Literally even look at the NXT refs who worked that same night in their show, they were counting people, yelling at a wrestler to stop doing some illegal hold or whatever, basically doing the job. Like might as well just have tornado tags at this point too now.
@@popo0129 ahhh the good old tornado tag, haven't heard that since smackdown here comes the pain lol.
I wouldn't mind if they explained the rules.
Maybe like loading screens on games
Perhaps even if you had an expert on wrestling doing commentary. One who did things other then shout out move-names. One who painted a picture of things like "These heels are working smart keeping that baby face on the mat so he can't reach his partner's hand. Teammate can't reach through the ropes or it won't be legal tag so he must somehow, someway, fight through and get up to tag his partner." ... Nah, that's just silly of me. Never mind.
Dont give aew any ideas bro lol
@@ItsTrinton
Problem is if u missed that episode and he doesnt repeat himself every week were still bound to miss the rules.
@@bowhite783
I think people would argue that AEW does need outside ideas or help.
@@ItsTrinton
I think simple text info before and or after they come from commercials,
Or even scrolling text at the bottom of the screen would go a long way.
No need to disturb the match saying things most wrestling fans already know anyway.
Remember when people were saying she was one the best refs of all time? I still nearly p!ss myself laughing every time I remember that. She's one of the worst 🤣🤣🤣
I love the facial expressions she does
she's kween, y'all gaze
B - ''I wanted Jim to give his option on AEW referee Aubrey Edwards''
J - **'very quiet disappointed sigh'** ...
Cornette's amazing!
I remember when the only time a back tag was used was when the tag partners were kayfabe pissed off at each other & it was more of a slap to screw with the other guy.
That used to be the most common usage, though I have seen a few matches where a team will the back-tag as a tactical move, where they do a tag-out in such a way that the opposing team doesn't see or notice but the referee does, so the opponent continues to focus on the former legal man so the new legal man can take advantage of the distraction.
I seem to remember Steve Austin once tagged in HHH by slapping him across the face lol
Bill alfonso is a better Refree than Aubrey Edwards
You got that right Daddy!
Damn right daddy! *blows whistle*
The Manager Of Champions and The Man Who Calls It Right Down The Middle DADDY!
@@EnforcerX71 LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@GraveMemories HUGE POP!
The blind tag on somebody's back has been a thing for as long as I can remember and that's almost 30 years of wrestling. Not sure where Jim gets that it's only been around for 5 years
Commonly seen with Partners who do not want to tag with one another but have to
She wasn't technically trained. She started out in the Seattle area as a fan who had been watching wrestling for a year (give or take).
She then decided to start being a ref at local indy shows with no training. She had never seen any wrestling before 2015 at the time. And by virtue of being a slightly above average competent female referee got advantages & opportunities given to her that male referees with 10+ years experience and way more in ring skill will never be given those opportunities. She was actively hated within her own 'home' locker room in Seattle because of her 'know it all' attitude towards a sport she had known about's existence for less than 2 years.
Also she looks like Jim Varney.
OH SHIT 🤣
Hey Vern, It’s Aubrey 🤣🤣🤣
Interesting. How do you know this stuff ?
Nice to see wrestling slowly eroding all the little ways they had to generate audience interest. Good job it couldn't possibly backfire, with decreasing viewership and ticket sales.
This is the same ref that holds down a table so it can break upon missed impact by an AEW Stunt Diver😂
Undertaker was always the most interesting person awaiting a tag. He knew how to get you to pay attention and look forward to the tag.
I have to agree with Corny on the tagging thing. It should be hand only. And I like it when they have to hold a string, too.
Seriously
@@flashpointblank4914 yes because the tag rope opens up for heels to get heat by manipulating it, or not using it.
Also a tag should be hand to hand, it opens up for more exciting tags where his partner has to work to get the tag, not just a slap on the body.
If Jim released the tag team commandments in the 90s as a song, he cudda been biggie smalls
this song needs to happen
❗❗
The ten tag commandments 😂😂😂
“Thou shall not fuc with nor see Poppa”
@@defaultusername123 Jimmy from the south with the racket in a bag.
commandment number 1's never make a cold tag .
One of the old NWA rules I thought was cool was that each team could only enter the ring to break up one fall opportunity. If you did it a second time, they'd award the fall automatically. It basically made tag matches 2-out-of-3 falls because you knew your first fall was likely to get interrupted. Now they dive in on nearly every pin and there's no flow to the match
That was indeed an awesome rule.
I remember Moxley, back when he was Dean Ambrose, saying this on commentary when he was special guest during a match, and it made so much sense.
Wwe wwf had done back tags for years.
They might as well just put one of those cleaning robots in to count the fall. Ref basically does nothing but count now.
Referee Romba
Make it a Roomba with a dancing cat in a referees outfit on top of it and I'm in.. just think of all the hilarious RUclips videos that would ensue. Might be the most entertaining thing in pro wrestling for the last few years. As an additional bonus they wouldn't even have to pay any ring monkeys to clean the ring between matches...
Nothing worst than the ref thinking she's the star of the show.
Lol, I love Jim's tag team commandments. They make sense, and you don't see enough tag matches where they actually go by these rules.
Worst referee in history of wrestling.
Sure if dont know much history lol
This comment is wack.
She’s not even the worst ref on that show.
lol you can tell who winning the match by how she count the pin just watch her when she counts
@@CASHGOTJUICE
U can tell whos gonna win just by the match up before they even fight lol
@@CASHGOTJUICE What I don't like and almost every ref in AEW and WWE does this, is when they're counting and when it's about to get to 3 and it's not the end of the match yet, they curl their arm to their chest. It becomes easy to spot before they do it and takes some of the excitement out of the match. Mike Chioda is one of the worst at doing that.
She is a pantomime ref, she waves her arm around like she's the star of the show, needs to stop distracting from matches, way too over the top.
wears enough makeup to be Marcel Marceau
*daydreams nostalgic memories about when women were just used as sexual objects in wrestling*😍
@James
Mike Stoklasa: A Star Wars story on youtube, except replaced with Wrestling.
@James
'Mike Stoklasa: A Star Wars Story' on RUclips.
@James no don’t search it. It literally has nothing to do with this conversation and is just a random reference to another RUclipsr.
@@evilsWa
I said "Mike Stoklasa: A Star Wars Story" on youtube except with wrestling. What this means is that I'm daydreaming of a better time like Mike Stoklasa does in the video. I can't believe I have to explain this.
@KaneMagus I understand why you feel that way, I personally don't even like the term "women's wrestling" because in wrestling the only fundamental difference between men and women is size, but I'd also personally have no women wrestling than have women wrestling badly. That includes the "sexy" mud pit matches, bra and panties, water contests, whatever. If the participants lack psychology, athleticism and technique they are better off as managers, and if they have no charisma then they should just be valets.
My standards aren't as high as Cornette's, but the AEW women's division wasn't good when I was watching it. It involved women I've seen have good matches before, but caused my opinions on many of them to drop. It also involved many rookies simply doomed to failure. WWE's women divisions 2004-2009 were similarly awful. Raw was at its best when they were all taken off entirely. There were exceptions. Mickie and Melina did well with competent opponents, Trish and Lita maintained Raw's regular viewership rating in the main event, but none of that excused the viewership hemorrhage women were otherwise causing. Then there was that shit they called NXT season three. That was a best example of people watching a bad wrestling show for the sole purpose of laughing at it besides Dramatic Dream Team. DDT's entire purpose is parodying American wrestling and NXT 3 was taken off TV; lows serious sports based presentation wrestling promotions should avoid at all costs.
Yet AEW's women's division is headed by a man who spent the bulk of his career in DDT, who allowed recruitment from DDT/TJP for a women's title tournament(as opposed to say, Oz Academy/LLPW). If I wanted to laugh at bad wrestling, I'd just watch DDT. If a serious sports based promotion isn't going to do it well, maybe it should just stick to arm candy. I'm fine with women wrestlers. When AAA reduced Dark Angel to a sign carrier she jumped to CMLL and became recognized as one of the greatest luchadoras ever. I personally loved her matches with Amapola. Marcela was a joy to watch when she got away from the garbage matches of BJ. But few women in AEW have managed to prove or redeem themselves to that extent. Dark Angel had to leave AAA, Marcela BJ. AEW may not be the company to do it in. I don't know why, but the women matches in SHIMMER are almost always better than those the same people have in ROH. ROH used to tell fans who wanted to see women wrestlers to just watch SHIMMER. ROH tried again 2011-2019, but it's women's matches mostly remained lackluster.
AEW is a Parody of Professional Wrestling so their opinions must be treated as such ...
I’m an AEW Fan,and yes I admit there’s stuff that I think could be a lot better...but if AEW is a parody of Professional Wrestling, I’m curious what your opinion of the current WWE is?
WWE is boring as hell and that Bray Wyatt bullshit is constantly embarrassing, but the rest of the program is at least professional and not making fun of their own business
@@LemoncookieTV I agree with you about Bray Wyatt...but if you think WWE is professional and not making fun of themselves...they haven’t had this many cartoon gimmicks since 93-95 and you know how AWEFUL that was lol
@@charlesgreen8703 Time to move on from the whataboutism (WWE). In earnest, people wanted AEW to rival and truly compete. To give the fans a genuine alternative. To even make WWE better in those regards. Why do you think the lot of them are throwing shade?
It's called disappointment.
@@memorydrain7806 honestly I think it’s hilarious that I’m on RUclips arguing about athletic theater...which is what professional wrestling really is if you think about it...I’m a fan and I enjoy it..it’s entertainment...no need to be too critical and take it too seriously like Corney does...just watch, enjoy and have fun with it... or if you don’t like AEW don’t watch it...and I’m done...Be Safe...Peace ✌️
Someone should point out to Cornette that Rhea Ripley did a head tag to Asuka this week on Raw.
Corny doesn't care about his preferred people adhering to the mysterious rules of wrestling, he never has.
That wasn't even a real tag match so you pointing that out is moot, Ripley only wanted that match to try and take out Asuka. It had nothing to do with teaming up with her, but doing damage before WersteMania.
@@jennifermurray6941 It was absolutely a real tag match. There was competitors tagging in and out with a decisive pinfall finish. So therefore the point isn't moot. Think before you type.
Sure, Rhea wanted to do damage to Asuka to soften her up and she got to do that... at the end of a 12 MINUTE MATCH you are claiming isn't real lmao. If it's not real, why did they go that long? Don't worry, I'll wait.
@@jennifermurray6941 Regardless of what answer you give, Rhea still tagged Asuka on the top of her head in a 12 minute tag match.
I think Jim already knows Raw is trash and they don't teach wrestlers how to do tag matches in NXT.
What else do you expect from AEW?
Both the WWF/E and WCW did it too. If the rules were as enforced as Cornette claims, how do you explain the odd couple tag teams?
This happens in an angle were usually a heel and a face team up or two faces that don't respect each other and both of them slap each others back to tag in disrespectfully. So, why have refs allowed it in the past?
Blind tags are usually a heel move and refs have also allowed it in the past not just in AEW.
A “sports based presentation”?
@@EliC09 that's what I thought too Tony Khanman almost had me before i peeped the bs
I expected a whole lot, too bad we get noting in return. I tried to get into AEW and I ordered some pay per views in the first year. But AEW sucks so bad now. I highly doubt that the win loss records that they keep matter anymore. Couple that with lazy booking, an mediocre talent that should nowhere be near a goddamn wrestling ring let alone be on TV, and you have a promotion that fucks it up for everybody.
Half of Cornette's life is a Promo...I love it!
I like the "above the waist" rule because it allows for aggressive tags from partners who dislike one another. I remember Rock and Undertaker slapping each other on the chest to make their tags.
Corny is attempting to rewrite history here. Ignore him.
Makes sense.
@@franklinrichards6559 Except he's not. There have obviously been cases in every company/promotion of people not sticking to the rules 100%, but do you honestly think people care that much when the likes of Rock + Undertaker (at one of WWE's most viewed points in history) are slapping each others chests to tag eachother for the sake of heat? Meanwhile, check the likes of Ronda's debut (which also had some weird situations) - they're respecting the corner/tag rules (including a corner rope), except that one broke the rules in different ways numerous times.
Point he's making is that said no-real-rules happen ALL THE TIME now, so there may as well be no rules to begin with.
@@RopeDrink except he is. This isnt some sport with unified rules. He literally trying to shit on shit like hand to hand tags when palm to back hand and palm to chest have happened frequently all the way back to the 80s. Yes maybe they didnt do it in the 1920s. But let's not set that as the standard as much as corny and the boomers try.
@@franklinrichards6559 Jim.Cornette has always thought WWE/WWF at the time didn't do wrestling properly but had the proper spectacle and over talent. I don't believe he's referring to WWE/F when he talks about keeping to the rules.
Somebody needs to troll Corny and make the turnbuckle rope 10 feet long. 😂🤣
aubrey edwards has never looked more intelligent than in this artist rendering.....
Shes one of the best mimes I ever seen in the ring
Jacqueline was a better referee in her brief WWE (ref) tenure
FUNNY CUZ JIM USE TO PRAISE HER AS THE BEST!!!!
@@xxtravdamanxx jus like America used to be a beacon of hope for democracy
@@xxtravdamanxx hitler was time magazine's man of the year in 1938. opinions change when new information becomes avalible.
Kentucky Dankmaker made some great points on the actual post on Instagram.
Did he now? 😂😂
@@jordanking5067 do you not have a life
Best thumbnail yet. To be fair, the backslap tag was popularized by wwe, no? I don’t have so much a problem with it if the ref sees it and dignifies it. Makes for those dramatic pauses between teammates that hate each other.
I agree on that. After all, there's times when a tag team does a quick tag when their opponents don't notice for a sudden tag combination.
Congratulations lazy fan hype.
There’s always the “ghost” tag
finally....the rules!!!!!
This used to be part of the story (ATTITUDE ERA) like when somebody was with a person they didn't want to tag with, they'd end up slapping them and just running in.
Yeah, I remember seeing that all the time. It was a great way to show that they're a bad team. Like somebody would hit their finisher and their partner would tag themselves in and make the pin because they're a selfish turd.
You know I forgot about that. I wonder if that was why it became like it is.
Right! I'm trying to think back who would do that sometimes maybe Kane and Xpac but ya, glad somebody gets it!
@@thesundog8833 ya i saw this happen often even in modern day wwe.
Yeah the key part being PART OF THE STORY...not just the standard way they do things.
Aubrey Edwards was super over as a referee, and now became just another referee overexaggerating the officiating.
Damn, the shade from Jim here 😂
Being a good ref means no one even notices you, unless its a predetermined spot. And even those should be kept to a minimum.
Wwe does the same thing.. seen plenty of times the secret tag when two guys are locked up in corner and partner outside tags on back. The angry partner tag in ,on back or shoulder.
What kinda miss seeing is the heel blind tag..where ref is dealing with face trying to get in n help his partner while hes held in middle of ring then heel partner comes in gets a kick in takes over and his partner goes back and he just claps his hands as if they tagged.
That derpy female AEW ref design is bruuuuutal 🤣
The sarcasm is great.
Tagging people in towards the end of a match used to be an art form. Now it's just hacks slapping each other.
I would argue the backslap tags are the least of the worries in the AEW Tag division if they start following the rules about only 1 man in the ring.
Can't stand Aubrey Edwards as a referee. She's so attention seeking, something a referee shouldn't do. If she wants attention, become a wrestler.
She actually is a wrestler, and recently got her wrestling name or something trademarked. I fully expect her to drop the referee thing one day and attack a fellow female wrestler.
Now I understand why WWE let Aubrey go.
Great art per usual
Her screen presence is an F
I hate her reaction to every blow delivered between opponents.
*EITHER YOU WORK THE "TAG" GIMMICK OR IT'S 2 SINGLES MATCHES*
How about the count of five to get in and out of the ring? They don't do that either. I learned the rules from Jesse Ventura. Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat.
I think Joey Ryan would challenge the "tag-above-the-waist rule".
It would be near impossible for Marko Stunt then.
Hmmm, Allowing below the waist tags in intergender matches... Pretty much daring the cancel culture people to come after you, lol
@@johngori9477 they never came after Ryan until after the speaking out thing happened.
I have never seen a ref try to put themselves over more than this broad.
This 👆👆
Aubrey and Cody are on Cornette's list now.
I've seen plenty of times in the WWE where somebody will have their opponent in a headlock and back their way into the corner and their teammate smack their back or somebody gets shot into the ropes close to the corner and the teammate will slap his back for a hot tag and then the opponent doesn't know attack was made and tries to go for a 10 10 and it's not the legal man
It even use to happen in Crockett promotions, hell I've seen the Midnight Express do it. Jim is just selective with his memory.
There was a POINT when it happened then it wasn’t just the standard way of tagging in. That’s the point you simps.
I remember when they were doing the 10 count switch. They made a big deal about it and said it would be enforced. That lasted about 15 minutes.
When you're making up the rules as you go, they can be whatever you want them to be.
She's a certified professional wrestling referee. Do you think just anyone can walk in off the street and become a referee?
Some one defending why they should get a pay check regardless of qualifications - Dont try to reason with the unreasonable
Seriously.....who gives a shit if a tag is made to a shoulder or hand???
Tags on the back are legal for storyline purposes to advance heat between partners as one of them tags himself in against the other's will.
I remember one match with the Hart Dynasty in WWE where Tyson Kidd was the legal man but was in some standing hold, and he reached out at Smith who just shook his head, so Tyson put his arm down and went to bounce off the rope to break free, and _then_ Smith did a "back-slap tag" as Tyson bounced off the opposite rope to make him legal, but then Tyson continued pretending to be the legal man during the 5-second window to distract the opponent for Smith to hit his finisher. I remember being impressed with that spot, because of how effective a team it made the Hart Dynasty look-- Smith's refusal to go with the typical tag in and subsequent covert tag-in made them look super intelligent and tactical, while Tyson's immediately accepting of Smith's refusal and working to break free on his own instead of acting all confused and dismayed really demonstrated the level of trust and camaraderie between them. It's those subtle pieces of psychology that can really make a difference in making a tag team look like a truly formidable force.
I just watched Night 1 of WRESTLEMANIA 37 and during the Women's Tag Team Turmoil Match I saw one woman smack her partners ass and the ref counted it as a legit tag. It was the team of Mandy Rose and Dana Brookes and one of them was in their corner standing on the turnbuckle and the other was on the outside trying to make the tag and her partner wasn't paying attention so she reached out and smacked that ass to make the tag. I liked it
There outfits were nice too. Her and Dana looked hot.
Lol that picture of Aubrey is great 😂
She seems like a sweetheart, they just need to go back to when rules fucking mattered. This shit makes no sense
I’ve seen backslap tags but it’s usually for odd couple teams and a sign the two partners are not on the same page. Are they really doing it for actual tag teams?
The "Young Buck-ization" of wrestling has caused tag team wrestling to become such a mess in today's wrestling.
In sports the best ref are the ones you don't notice bc they just do their job and just call the game\match whatever. Ref Aubrey is the opposite always doing over the top stuff making dumb faces. I don't even know the names of the female refs in WWE
Big john is the best mma ref and hes well known. I toss your logic out with that 1 example.
Everything I saw about her outside of his referee role screams Douchebag to me. But it's just my opinion
Rhea tagged in Asuka by tagging her head
Corny holding the ten commandments is priceless 😂😂😂😂😂
The rules make the story. In a Hollywood film you can’t just write ‘the hero flew on a rocket pack to the bad guy and shot him in the head the end’. You need to follow certain conventions, so when the rules are broken it’s shocking. There has to be struggle, and the feeling of injustice that eventually is made right. And if the heels cheat twice, then the third time they get their comeuppance.
It’s not wrestling logic, it’s storytelling logic.
I want to see that movie. 🤣
@@zaodedong9935 The Rocketeer
@@EldestSauce saw it as a kid, and never again. 🤣
I was joking mainly about how much filler is in movies nowadays.
It seems like every single movie has to have a love story, and multiple side stories that are never fledged out.
Travis is a master of his craft
I remember the babyfaces trying to lean as far in to save their buddy without falling in and the heels using the rope to choke the opponent ebile the ref was distracted. Not having that little rule in there loses so much good story telling bits
Not to mention having the baby face tag denied because of the refs distraction,continuing the drama until that hot tag was finally made and all hell broke loose.That is what made the price of a front row ticket and a few days wait worth it.
Corney needs to sell collections of these thumbnails on his collectibles site
I recall seeing guys tag their partners back, but they still were holding the tag rope so it made it seem legit. Like those times when I guy is in a headlock and they get backed up into the ropes so the partner tags their back or something before as a surprise tag for the opponent who didn’t see it.
AEW and it’s fans. Where if logic doesn’t apply we make it up until it does.
4:43 A Ten Count break between tags? That's basically the match equivalent of a segment beatdown.
Her referee college should revoke her degree
Rules in AEW are suggestions.
I think someone said "Hey when I was a kid, and we played tag, we just touched shoulders, back, let's do that"
Tag teams of people who don't like each other have been slapping on the back for the "i want in even though you don't want to tag me' since at least the 1990s and probably earlier.
i was about to comment something similair, idk why jim and others think this is an Aew problem when its been going on for over 20 years.
i can remember shawn Michaels and steve Austin doing this when they were tag champs for a short while.
idk why jim has such a hard on for this very specific thing all of a sudden.
@KaneMagus I get what you are saying, but this so petty. As if every single sport hasn't evolved or removed rules over time. It's about as stupid as being inches short to tag your partner, yet your toes are the only thing left on the ring.
@Ihate RUclips ive never heard jim make that argument though, he just straight up says its illegal to backslap.
theres a difference between saying its overused because it used to be a heat spot and saying its illegal.
and im not saying he is wrong but its been done for over 20 years at this point , so its not like this is a new "problem" or only a aew problem.
Interesting thing about the tag rope, in one match Sid was able to hold the tag rope, and still tag in despite his partner being over half way across ring when they hit the ropes.
I absolutely despise her as a ref. She's awful. Has no clue what she's doing in there. Has all these ridiculous movements like she's some kind of an orchestra conductor.
I said a the start they have no good refs in aew. They get them on occasionally for big events but the ones they have are useless
Omfg. Foot on mat. Hand on rope. Palm to Palm only. When did this "tag yourself in" stuff start? Just have a duos match if they want to do this.
Where does it says Palm to Palm only?
@@WazKoOL it started at a tournament in Brazil
@@WazKoOL Legitimate wrestling schools.
these caricatures are aces EVERY time.
any tag above the waste is legal!
gtfoutta here