Cornette is probably the only person in the world who's ever listened to that song and compared it to a pro wrestling angle. Just goes to show you how unbelievably passionate he is about the business. He was absolutely right too, it really is like a top notch wrestling angle.
@@JMFSpike it really proved his point that booking a good wrestling angle is easy too. One of my measures of whether a wrestling story is good is whether I can explain it to my girlfriend in the time it takes her to leave after she walks in, sees im watching wrestling, asks "who are these dudes"
"And a band of demons joined in" The Devil couldn't even go one-on-one with Johnny, he had to have a run in from his stable buddies behind the referees back. Cheating fucker still lost!
The Devil Went Down To Georgia rant and how effortless and spot on it was reminded me why I end up listening to him everyday, whether I agree with him or not.
When people ask me why I don't watch wrestling anymore I'm going to play them this video. The Devil Went Down to Georgia thing was simplistically brilliant.
Conservatives only acknowledge what they want to instead of what NEEDS to be acknowledged lol The republican party is just a clown car full of "patriotic" morons and conspiracy theorists! It's comical how far down the shitter that party has gone 😂 Liberals have their downfalls but at least they aren't wearing Biden flags as capes looking like grown spoiled children in red hats LMAO
@Craig Bphone Riiight, they're the lunatics 😂 Not the people that think the vaccine will turn them into lizard people and contains government microchips lmao Yeah conservatives are sooo grounded
@Craig Bphone Phew! Thank god I'm on neither side definitively 😂 How's it feel to blindly follow a washed up wanna be dictator into obscurity lol I know theres alot of BIG words there for you to understand that aren't your normal go-to "liberals" and "leftists" terms so I'll let you process that for awhile
That's not love. Its obsession. I love wrestling too but his love if wrestling gets in the way of common sense or empathy.....sometimes. Like the stuff with Sonya Deville. He was more concerned about keeping kayfabe than the fact some asshole was trying to kill her
@@madddoggnogood1491 Cornette tells it like it is, & he actually cares about the business & respects the history of it whereas Vince Russo & Vince McMahon obviously doesn't.
@@madddoggnogood1491 regarding that. These days everybody seems to think that every aspect of their personal life has to be broadcast on all social media platforms. You say that cornet is unhealthily obsessed with keeping the Mystique alive. Truthfully though, everything that happened with her, there was no reason to share it with the public. This was a police matter, it was a personal matter, and it was being handled. I'm not so much concerned about keeping the storylines alive as he is, but it baffles and kind of disgust me how people can't keep anything to themselves anymore. No one except for the impacted people and the police need to be made aware of what happened to her.
With "The Band Of Demons" joining in to help The Devil give Johnny a miserable time, it even summons up the pure villainous gangjump sadism of various Freebirds, Horsemen, and whatever Memphis Heel lowlifes Jerry Lawler had to fend off. This is beyond Genius from Jim! Incidentally, "The Legend Of Woolly Swamp" is a Charlie Daniels Heel vs. Heel Classic with greedy and conniving Lucius Clay vs. three Terry Gordy styled Louisiana brothers who meet their doom shortly after they send old man Clay to his.B.W.
While I agree with the spirit of your comment...the truth of the matter is that it's already been done. Go get Bill Watts' book, and read the middle chapters. It's as close to a textbook on how to book and present wresting as we have. Also get Jerry Jarrett's book--it has a lot of this instruction as well.
Jim’s breakdown of that song, shows what an absolute professor of the wrestling business that there’s ever been… and sadly, will ever be again. So many ppl will only know Jim as that tennis racket carrying, heel manager of the 80’s and 90’s…. Which honestly, I was guilty of thinking that. Until I started listening to these podcasts only a month or two ago. Now, it’s an everyday listen for me
Lol! The devil went down to Georgia will never sound the same way again. How awesome. I think that match took place at Starcade! You know that year that Jim came out, not with a tennis racket but, with a golden Violin? ;) But all jockes aside, Jim Cornette is a true Wrestling Scholar!
11:04 Billy Robinson and Tony Charles were both British. I grew up with British Wrestling as a kid in the 70s/80s and, over here, we knew how to make matches work between two blue-eyes (babyfaces) because it was a 70/30 split in favour of the blue-eyes, so many of them fought each other in these sportsmanly technical clean matches (there is plenty of old footage on RUclips). But there was STILL a clear blue-eye/heel schism because the way it worked was that the clean matches on World of Sport established this idea of a blue-eye purist Utopia of fine scientific matches and then the heels (or "dirty wrestlers" as most fans called them) would go and spoil this utopia either by just misbehaving or else turning on the dirty wrestling after they'd shown earlier in the bout that they could have had a technical match if they'd wanted to. So it was up to the "clean wrestlers" to try and restore the lost honour by punishing the dirty-wrestling heel either by fighting fire with fire or else by winning fairly. (Ring of Honour's whole "code of honour" was the above forced through two cultural prisms - it was their take on concepts of honour in Puroresu which was the Japaneses' take on the sportsmanly clean wrestling in Britain and the occasional villain who would spoil things.) Point was, it may have worked differently inasmuch as Yes it was a different time and a different culture and yes there was an imbalance between "clean" and "dirty" wrestlers in favour of the clean and yes, two friends (or four friends for tag matches) could shake hands and have a friendly scientific match, but you still knew who the goodies and the baddies were and why they were good and bad. Two goodies fighting each other would both stick scrupulously to the rules - the moment someone stopped doing that they were instantly the villain (if only for the night.)
At fiest i thought, what is he talking about but then as he went on it made sense. Simple booking from that song. Heel, face stip, location, match, finish. Brilliant
I Knew Cornette put the heels on one side and faces on the other but had no idea what the thumbnail was trying to say. Why the hell does he have a fiddle? Why is that such a bad Undertaker drawing? - then I listened. Classic!
I like leaving these podcasts playing in the background while I sleep, and jumped up to point out the brilliance of that comparison. Jim is a wrestling genius. That's the perfect hero v villain/ babyface v heel symbolic summary I've heard.
I've been going back & binge watching old Mid South on the WWE Network. Trying to watch every episode on there. Right now I'm just entering 1983. Great stuff, great stuff!!! "IS IT ME" - Stager Lee
Devil went down to Georgia as a metaphore for heel vs babyface pro wrestling is possibly the best wrestling metaphor I ever heard.. Gotta love Cornette
This was one of the best Cornette video that I have seen in a long time. I am not a big fan of Kaka, I thought that he was an average footballer at best.
I didn’t like kaka but he was more than an average footballer. I do however, think he benefited greatly from being in that fantastic AC Milan side in 07 and winning the champions league.
Yes!! I would love if styles came out as a flat earth heel! Trying to convince everyone why its flat! Kinda like bryan with the whole eco friendly/ eating healthy/etc and punk with the whole straight edge thing. Styles can be that kinda heel!
Bad Leroy Brown and Jim from 'Don't mess around with Jim" are heels, they get their comeuppance from Slim whom was hustled and Toomy the husband who didn't like Bad Bad Leroy messing with his girl.
@johnrevene3053: Bad Bad Leroy Brown started out in JCP as a Face then joined fellow Heel convert Ray Candy in NWA Florida as members of The Zambuie Express under the tutelage of first "Gentleman" Jim Holliday and then J.J. Dillon.🤔😉🎤🐴💎👔👞👞🌊☀️🍊🌴🤼♂️B.W.
Even literature does this. Its not that hard to understand. I like how he laid out the exceptions to the rule but that you had to reset things in order to fall back to a neutral state before you wear out and spoil the audience.
Stone Cold changed the babyface and heel dynamic. He made heels cool, thus causing an entire generation to think that heels are walking badasses. And when he switched babyface, he still kept the badass persona but the cosplayers don’t understand what got him over. So now you have babyfaces doing heel things to be edgy and have heels trying to look cool for the fans.
The Freebirds were cool heels before the nWo. It's just that when the Freebirds were the cool heels, everyone didn't feel the need to copy them...probably because there were more than 2-3 big money promotions in the US at that point. The nWo was when every other heel had to be a cool heel. A lot of those heels, up to and including most of Bullet Club, are still unlikeable dorks to me, but fans think they're cool for whatever reason.
Dutch is right, these concepts and themes are as old as storytelling itself. Look at classic, epic literature like The Iliad. In that story, there are clearly defined sides (including the gods), clearly defined personalities (some of them absolutely larger than life), and clearly stated reasons for fighting (Helen, glory, and defending their home). The spice is in how everyone feels about the reasons for fighting, the intrigue inside the groups, and the fact that there are heroes who are massive jerks and antagonists who are noble paragons (that are slightly less jerkish).
I was talking to my best friend earlier about how they turn ppl heel and face often for no reason and there is no consistency with the characters so why WOULD ppl care?
Rare it is to hear someone so analytical, so knowledgeable about facts and history, and at the same time so damn passionate about the industry he’s in, so passionate that you’d expect blood to start streaming out of his ears when he starts his ranting.
I will always support Jims idea of booking. Heels and Faces, give me a reason to care outside of the 'moves'. 90% of the fun was in the details. to me anyways. "sending monkeys in to do moves' made me seriously LMFAO
As an Oklahoman I can tell you that fortunately Jim the Myriad building is still there but it is no longer called that, its been through two different names sense then (the cox communication building and most recently the Chesapeake energy arena) it's still a beautiful buliding where the OKC NBA team The Thunder plays there and it usually looks like alot of folks can fit in that building.
That must have been why I couldn’t enjoy the Rock as much as I wanted to. He was a face but he acted like an arrogant heel. We were expected to root for him regardless because we were told he was the hero
Cornette needs to open a school or sell a Masterclass on professional wrestling. This is pure knowledge of the industry crafted from years of experience. He's seen wrestling at the best of times and at the worst of times.
I get a laugh out of it when Brian just shuts up while Jim goes off on a tangent, but goes so quiet that it throws Jim for the briefest second. I like to think that in that short amount of time, Jim has an entire conversation in his head. "The fuck, Brian? You got nothing? Well I guess it's on me, once again." Then back into the same tangent, or he goes off on another. I swear I can listen to Corny rant all day lol
I've nvr heard Mr. Cornette sing before. Been a lifelong fan of his and Mr. Charlie Daniels. And i'm 44. I loved it. Keep up the amazing work on the podcast. I love it.
It’s amazing how wrestling today misses all the basics. Every time I watch all I can think is “nice flips bro, but why should I care?” You don’t need to do backflips to establish who’s the heel and who’s the babyface.
It's 5 in the morning, I have really bad toothache and there are no painkillers in the house. Thank goodness for Jim Cornette, or I'd have lost my sanity hours ago.
There are certain people who may not do their profession better than everyone else but they understand their profession better than everyone else. Fight me if you disagree that Jim Cornette and Jerry Seinfeld are two of these people.
Travis Weberling Cornette is wrestling. Seinfeld is comedy. If you heard Jerry talk about comedy you’d hear a guy talking about his profession the same as Cornette talks about wrestling. It’s next level
Corny is just the fuckin truth bro bro!!! And not only one of the greatest wrestling historian and a legend in the business..cornette is fuckin hilarious!!! Also Travis Heckel is the fuckin man!
Jim Cornette breaking down "Devil Went Down To Georgia" as a heel versus face match may be the best thing I've ever heard.
Yeah. What a comparison. And it's so true
Cornette is probably the only person in the world who's ever listened to that song and compared it to a pro wrestling angle. Just goes to show you how unbelievably passionate he is about the business. He was absolutely right too, it really is like a top notch wrestling angle.
This is what makes Cornette so great
Lol honestly I've always thought Jim could of been a battle rapper in a different lifetime.
@@JMFSpike it really proved his point that booking a good wrestling angle is easy too.
One of my measures of whether a wrestling story is good is whether I can explain it to my girlfriend in the time it takes her to leave after she walks in, sees im watching wrestling, asks "who are these dudes"
“And The Devil uses all of his heel fiddle tactics from hell” what an incredible line
"And a band of demons joined in" The Devil couldn't even go one-on-one with Johnny, he had to have a run in from his stable buddies behind the referees back. Cheating fucker still lost!
The Devil Went Down To Georgia rant and how effortless and spot on it was reminded me why I end up listening to him everyday, whether I agree with him or not.
I agree with this statement. Lol
This is 100% accurate lol
I totally agree with this!
Honestly I thought Jim’s breakdown of the Charlie Daniels thing was just perfect.
99% accurate information
Jim is so correct.Wrestling years ago was so simple yet so entertaining. Jim explains it by using mid south was so informative.
Legendary!
Absolutely it was .
Right?!
“Heel fiddle tactics from hell” is forever my favorite term from now on
My gawd king, my gawd! Heel tactics from hell! The carnage!!
If you haven’t listened to this yet, pay attention. You’re about to spend 40 minutes inside the mind of a genius.
When people ask me why I don't watch wrestling anymore I'm going to play them this video.
The Devil Went Down to Georgia thing was simplistically brilliant.
Corny went down to Georgia! 😈🤓🎻
"Because Charlie Daniels books wrestling better than Triple H" we all sound crazy lol
Johnny even sets up the rematch like a charm.
And the rematch delivers as well. And you can’t beat Johnny Cash as your guest referee.
Charlie Daniels portion was spot on.
Not gonna lie:
When says "Holy shit Johnny is in trouble" I laughed way to hard
That breakdown of Devil Went Down To Georgia is all you need to hear, Jim Cornette is one of the greatest wrestling minds alive today, hands down.
Every prospective wrestling booker or even wrestler should watch this.
It's practically a sin not to.
In “some” promotions it’s a sin to listen. Ask FTR
Jim is giving away free wrestling lessons daily for any one who wishes to learn something.
Manuel Perez absolutely. He is a legend
I love Jim, disagree w/ him a lot, and this clip blew me away, but I'm pretty sure an arena in 1984 is not state of the art in 2020 🤣
@@dirtmcgirt8269 what does that have to do with the quality of his advice?
it's sad how much sense this made and yet how simple it is, yet wrestling nowadays don't get it
Maybe it's an outdated concept?
@@Cre8Lounge Only if you're allergic to drawing money.
308328928 Then it isn’t wrestling, it’s aew.
308328928 what specifically, that there should be a fine line between faces and heels?
The Young Bucks, killing the business.
Cody: "Facessssssth and heelsssssssth are overrated."
Sufferin' Succotash
Yea guess its too hard to make wrestling make sense 🤣
@Lloyd Bonafide Cody Rhodes.
CODY is overrated without his name and his hot wife he is nothing
Charlie Daniels: “Sit down in that chair right there, and I’ll show you how it’s done”
I don't always agree with Jim, but this was actually pretty fantastic. His analogies regarding babyfaces and heels were spot on.
Jim can turn anything into wrestling! But he's right.
It’s called the Bible good vs evil. Cornette Hates Trump but he has the same mentality which is comical
@@PhillyLeotardo25 Please explain
Conservatives only acknowledge what they want to instead of what NEEDS to be acknowledged lol The republican party is just a clown car full of "patriotic" morons and conspiracy theorists! It's comical how far down the shitter that party has gone 😂 Liberals have their downfalls but at least they aren't wearing Biden flags as capes looking like grown spoiled children in red hats LMAO
@Craig Bphone Riiight, they're the lunatics 😂 Not the people that think the vaccine will turn them into lizard people and contains government microchips lmao Yeah conservatives are sooo grounded
@Craig Bphone Phew! Thank god I'm on neither side definitively 😂 How's it feel to blindly follow a washed up wanna be dictator into obscurity lol I know theres alot of BIG words there for you to understand that aren't your normal go-to "liberals" and "leftists" terms so I'll let you process that for awhile
Find you a woman who loves you the way Jim Cornette loves wrestling.
That's not love. Its obsession.
I love wrestling too but his love if wrestling gets in the way of common sense or empathy.....sometimes.
Like the stuff with Sonya Deville.
He was more concerned about keeping kayfabe than the fact some asshole was trying to kill her
@@madddoggnogood1491 Cornette tells it like it is, & he actually cares about the business & respects the history of it whereas Vince Russo & Vince McMahon obviously doesn't.
@@TheSportsfan35 I agree.
Except in this situation.
He was just an asshole here
@@madddoggnogood1491 No he wasn't
@@madddoggnogood1491 regarding that. These days everybody seems to think that every aspect of their personal life has to be broadcast on all social media platforms. You say that cornet is unhealthily obsessed with keeping the Mystique alive. Truthfully though, everything that happened with her, there was no reason to share it with the public. This was a police matter, it was a personal matter, and it was being handled.
I'm not so much concerned about keeping the storylines alive as he is, but it baffles and kind of disgust me how people can't keep anything to themselves anymore. No one except for the impacted people and the police need to be made aware of what happened to her.
Thanks to jim I now watch tv shows & movies looking for the heels & baby faces
With "The Band Of Demons" joining in to help The Devil give Johnny a miserable time, it even summons up the pure villainous gangjump sadism of various Freebirds, Horsemen, and whatever Memphis Heel lowlifes Jerry Lawler had to fend off. This is beyond Genius from Jim! Incidentally, "The Legend Of Woolly Swamp" is a Charlie Daniels Heel vs. Heel Classic with greedy and conniving Lucius Clay vs. three Terry Gordy styled Louisiana brothers who meet their doom shortly after they send old man Clay to his.B.W.
Jim needs to come out with a Booking Pro Wrestling for dummies book asap
Yes. ASAP! It’d be more valuable than Bill Walsh’s book on coaching & personnel.
While I agree with the spirit of your comment...the truth of the matter is that it's already been done. Go get Bill Watts' book, and read the middle chapters. It's as close to a textbook on how to book and present wresting as we have. Also get Jerry Jarrett's book--it has a lot of this instruction as well.
americasevilgenius thank you kind sir
If Jim did it it wouldn't be for dummies cause Jim is smarter than most people in the business today.
Chris Lyons that’s the purpose of the book. Written by smart people to be read by not so smart people
Only 8 minutes in and this is already a f/n masterpiece
The devil went down to Georgia analogy seriously was so simple and so perfect, it made me want to quit my job, and become a booker.
Travis Heckle is an artistic genius. Having Jim dressed up as one of Penguin’s thugs from the 60’s era Batman show is the best 🤣
This was a piece of art, I've downloaded it.
Jim’s breakdown of that song, shows what an absolute professor of the wrestling business that there’s ever been… and sadly, will ever be again. So many ppl will only know Jim as that tennis racket carrying, heel manager of the 80’s and 90’s…. Which honestly, I was guilty of thinking that. Until I started listening to these podcasts only a month or two ago. Now, it’s an everyday listen for me
Cornettes breakdown of Devil Went Down To Georgia is one the greatest things you could ever listen to 😅
Cornette's devil went down to georgia analogy was masterful. You can tell just by this that he loves this business and knows it well.
Expert analysis. Plus the delivery of experience & natural talent of James E Cornette.
Tim ,so true .Promotions are sorely missing the talent and experience of James E Cornette
Lol! The devil went down to Georgia will never sound the same way again. How awesome. I think that match took place at Starcade! You know that year that Jim came out, not with a tennis racket but, with a golden Violin? ;)
But all jockes aside, Jim Cornette is a true Wrestling Scholar!
The Devil Went Down To Corny's! 🤓🎻😈
"Just 'cause you can cut your ear off, doesn't make you Van Gogh." Absolute genius.
Poor Jim can't even hear Charlie Daniel's without thinking wrestling!!
I'm thinking he might be more of a funk fan. So its only county music makes him think wrestling.
Corny went down to Georgia! Lol 😆
To this day I still believe this is the single greatest moment in Cornys podcast.
11:04 Billy Robinson and Tony Charles were both British. I grew up with British Wrestling as a kid in the 70s/80s and, over here, we knew how to make matches work between two blue-eyes (babyfaces) because it was a 70/30 split in favour of the blue-eyes, so many of them fought each other in these sportsmanly technical clean matches (there is plenty of old footage on RUclips). But there was STILL a clear blue-eye/heel schism because the way it worked was that the clean matches on World of Sport established this idea of a blue-eye purist Utopia of fine scientific matches and then the heels (or "dirty wrestlers" as most fans called them) would go and spoil this utopia either by just misbehaving or else turning on the dirty wrestling after they'd shown earlier in the bout that they could have had a technical match if they'd wanted to. So it was up to the "clean wrestlers" to try and restore the lost honour by punishing the dirty-wrestling heel either by fighting fire with fire or else by winning fairly.
(Ring of Honour's whole "code of honour" was the above forced through two cultural prisms - it was their take on concepts of honour in Puroresu which was the Japaneses' take on the sportsmanly clean wrestling in Britain and the occasional villain who would spoil things.)
Point was, it may have worked differently inasmuch as Yes it was a different time and a different culture and yes there was an imbalance between "clean" and "dirty" wrestlers in favour of the clean and yes, two friends (or four friends for tag matches) could shake hands and have a friendly scientific match, but you still knew who the goodies and the baddies were and why they were good and bad. Two goodies fighting each other would both stick scrupulously to the rules - the moment someone stopped doing that they were instantly the villain (if only for the night.)
Jim always on point..... can't wait for the All In review.......
You & me both.
At fiest i thought, what is he talking about but then as he went on it made sense. Simple booking from that song. Heel, face stip, location, match, finish. Brilliant
I Knew Cornette put the heels on one side and faces on the other but had no idea what the thumbnail was trying to say. Why the hell does he have a fiddle? Why is that such a bad Undertaker drawing? - then I listened. Classic!
Thts not Taker though! Lol Bill Dundee
I'm never going to listen to that song again without thinking of Cornette. And for some reason Macho Man is singing it in my head now.
"Holy shit Johnny's in trouble!"
I literally laughed and went awww at the same time.
My fiance's name is Johnny 🤼♂️😆
Jim ran a clinic with this, pure quality 🏴❤
This is my new favorite Corny promo. Such a great breakdown
Holy crap Jim Cornette's the best there's ever been! Gosh Damn!
Who else had to go listen to the song? Holy shit, that was spot on. Gg, JC.
PS Travis Heckel ftw.
I like leaving these podcasts playing in the background while I sleep, and jumped up to point out the brilliance of that comparison. Jim is a wrestling genius. That's the perfect hero v villain/ babyface v heel symbolic summary I've heard.
I've been going back & binge watching old Mid South on the WWE Network. Trying to watch every episode on there. Right now I'm just entering 1983. Great stuff, great stuff!!!
"IS IT ME" - Stager Lee
Grew up cheering for the Heels! Jim and The Midnight Express was my favorite. #Heel4Life
The Devil Went Down to Georgia bit was the most emotionally powerful promo ive heard in a long time...and thats bitter sweet
Only Jim could compare "Devil Went Down to Georgia" to a wrestling match 😂
"The Myriad" is indeed still standing. Saw Ozzy and Sepultura there in '96. Now it is called the Cox Convention Center
Someone please chop this and put Cornys The Devil Went Down to Georgia to the music its absolute gold!!!
Devil went down to Georgia as a metaphore for heel vs babyface pro wrestling is possibly the best wrestling metaphor I ever heard.. Gotta love Cornette
This was one of the best Cornette video that I have seen in a long time. I am not a big fan of Kaka, I thought that he was an average footballer at best.
I didn’t like kaka but he was more than an average footballer. I do however, think he benefited greatly from being in that fantastic AC Milan side in 07 and winning the champions league.
Sweet I love The Devil Went Down To Georgia. Thanks for the lesson using that song
The big problem with trying to recreate that success is that with only one or two territories across America, there’s no turnover.
God dammit JC is so good at cutting promos even now...better than everyone in the biz
I never thought about that song like that! Fantastic work, Jim!
Corny just impresses me more and more Everytime I hear his psychology of wrestling.
I want to start a wrestling promotion so I’m taking all the advice I can get from Cornette
Do it❤️
just make it as corny says how you start a promotion.
If you can get local TV, go for it. Just make sure your talent is trained and can do this stuff safely.
I usually don’t comment on JC’s vids despite listening to him basically every day, but this video motivated me to comment. Simply. Brilliant.
So damn, Big Iron vs Texas Red must be a great heel vs Face then :D
3:43 66 books actually (a little protestant humor)
Him doing the lyrics to "the devil went down to Georgia".
Now one of my all time favourite RUclips videos
Yes!! I would love if styles came out as a flat earth heel! Trying to convince everyone why its flat! Kinda like bryan with the whole eco friendly/ eating healthy/etc and punk with the whole straight edge thing. Styles can be that kinda heel!
Bad Leroy Brown and Jim from 'Don't mess around with Jim" are heels, they get their comeuppance from Slim whom was hustled and Toomy the husband who didn't like Bad Bad Leroy messing with his girl.
@johnrevene3053: Bad Bad Leroy Brown started out in JCP as a Face then joined fellow Heel convert Ray Candy in NWA Florida as members of The Zambuie Express under the tutelage of first "Gentleman" Jim Holliday and then J.J. Dillon.🤔😉🎤🐴💎👔👞👞🌊☀️🍊🌴🤼♂️B.W.
Even literature does this. Its not that hard to understand. I like how he laid out the exceptions to the rule but that you had to reset things in order to fall back to a neutral state before you wear out and spoil the audience.
“just cause you can cut your fuckin ear off doesn’t mean you’re van gough”
The guys on the right look
like Jesus and Keanu Reaves
Ummmm...it’s Dutch Mantel. He didn’t always have the “Uncle Zeb” look
@@travisheckel5576 your animations are ace bro! Keep it up!
“Undertaker was an emissary of death” this is a perfect way to explain to people what the undertaker was about
So Jim sets up a premise with a "Fiddler" early on and then a number of minutes later pays tribute to "Tradition!"? Very impressive!😏😂🎻B.W.
Damn this was good.
That last 45 seconds is the wrestling business today in a nutshell, niche entertainment for people that think they're apart of it.
Well, of course the Devil could get heat on someone. He's a natural!
Stone Cold changed the babyface and heel dynamic.
He made heels cool, thus causing an entire generation to think that heels are walking badasses.
And when he switched babyface, he still kept the badass persona but the cosplayers don’t understand what got him over.
So now you have babyfaces doing heel things to be edgy and have heels trying to look cool for the fans.
When did Austin make heels cool?
The NWO (really Hall and Nash) made heels cool before Austin.
The Freebirds were cool heels before the nWo. It's just that when the Freebirds were the cool heels, everyone didn't feel the need to copy them...probably because there were more than 2-3 big money promotions in the US at that point. The nWo was when every other heel had to be a cool heel. A lot of those heels, up to and including most of Bullet Club, are still unlikeable dorks to me, but fans think they're cool for whatever reason.
@@insupportofjunhado The Horsemen was cool heels before the freebirds.
The road warriors
I had a buddy who used to keep a [picture of the Russians in his wallet....lol Heel since the 80s
This is required listening for any aspiring booker or writer for a wrestling show.
I was waiting to see Travis do some art of this
Mind. Blown. damn, Jim.
I’ll never listen to that song the same again 😂
For those wondering the Myriad in OKC is now called the Cox Convention Center and is still there. I hate open ended comments, had to look it up....
Dutch is right, these concepts and themes are as old as storytelling itself. Look at classic, epic literature like The Iliad. In that story, there are clearly defined sides (including the gods), clearly defined personalities (some of them absolutely larger than life), and clearly stated reasons for fighting (Helen, glory, and defending their home). The spice is in how everyone feels about the reasons for fighting, the intrigue inside the groups, and the fact that there are heroes who are massive jerks and antagonists who are noble paragons (that are slightly less jerkish).
My Dad used to tell me about the Big Daddy, Giant Haystacks days where old ladies would sling their handbags at the bad guy.
I was talking to my best friend earlier about how they turn ppl heel and face often for no reason and there is no consistency with the characters so why WOULD ppl care?
Rare it is to hear someone so analytical, so knowledgeable about facts and history, and at the same time so damn passionate about the industry he’s in, so passionate that you’d expect blood to start streaming out of his ears when he starts his ranting.
"Heel fiddle tactics"
I will always support Jims idea of booking. Heels and Faces, give me a reason to care outside of the 'moves'. 90% of the fun was in the details. to me anyways. "sending monkeys in to do moves' made me seriously LMFAO
The breakdown of the Watts cards is interesting. I didn't realize that Von Erich worked in Mid-South that much.
Sister territories
As an Oklahoman I can tell you that fortunately Jim the Myriad building is still there but it is no longer called that, its been through two different names sense then (the cox communication building and most recently the Chesapeake energy arena) it's still a beautiful buliding where the OKC NBA team The Thunder plays there and it usually looks like alot of folks can fit in that building.
Devil goes down to Georgia by Jim 🔥🔥🔥
That must have been why I couldn’t enjoy the Rock as much as I wanted to. He was a face but he acted like an arrogant heel. We were expected to root for him regardless because we were told he was the hero
This is such good shit. He explains it EXACTLY as they used to present it back in the days.
One of the problems with AEW is outside of MJF no one is really a strong heel or face . It makes everyone look like a geek.
Cornette needs to open a school or sell a Masterclass on professional wrestling. This is pure knowledge of the industry crafted from years of experience. He's seen wrestling at the best of times and at the worst of times.
Jim needs to publish a new book that consists solely of Travis Heckel's artwork with the clip titles and that's it.
Your thumbnail is classic and I appreciate it
I get a laugh out of it when Brian just shuts up while Jim goes off on a tangent, but goes so quiet that it throws Jim for the briefest second. I like to think that in that short amount of time, Jim has an entire conversation in his head.
"The fuck, Brian? You got nothing? Well I guess it's on me, once again."
Then back into the same tangent, or he goes off on another. I swear I can listen to Corny rant all day lol
I've nvr heard Mr. Cornette sing before. Been a lifelong fan of his and Mr. Charlie Daniels. And i'm 44. I loved it. Keep up the amazing work on the podcast. I love it.
This breakdown was so hardboiled I started telling strangers to find this and listen
Corny just listing off random cards and gates. 😂
If Corny explaining ‘The Devil Went Down to Georgia’ doesn’t go viral, I don’t know what will. That was a straight up acting lesson right there.
It’s amazing how wrestling today misses all the basics. Every time I watch all I can think is “nice flips bro, but why should I care?” You don’t need to do backflips to establish who’s the heel and who’s the babyface.
It's 5 in the morning, I have really bad toothache and there are no painkillers in the house.
Thank goodness for Jim Cornette, or I'd have lost my sanity hours ago.
There are certain people who may not do their profession better than everyone else but they understand their profession better than everyone else. Fight me if you disagree that Jim Cornette and Jerry Seinfeld are two of these people.
I would love to see & hear Jerry Seinfeld try to talk wrestling like Cornette.
Travis Weberling Cornette is wrestling. Seinfeld is comedy. If you heard Jerry talk about comedy you’d hear a guy talking about his profession the same as Cornette talks about wrestling. It’s next level
Corny is just the fuckin truth bro bro!!! And not only one of the greatest wrestling historian and a legend in the business..cornette is fuckin hilarious!!! Also Travis Heckel is the fuckin man!