To be honest I could watch you disassembling and reassembling the ring-field motors all day. I learn as you show. I remember seeing this beauty in action in its day it was so amazing and different to anything around at the time. Right, I am off now to look at my Mallard having been inspired to try to repair. Wish me luck.
Another repair job done by the Model equivalent of Springburn Works. I hope when the folk bid for 92220 Evening Star, it comes with a OO Bill certificate of health. The bubbling on the number can just be put down as a bit weathering whilst in service and adding the etched plates, just enhances the loco. Excellent as usual Bill. Thank you for sharing.
I think what happened, back in the day when there were no OOBill videos to show us the way, people - myself included - had a little knowledge of loco motors and, realising the loco needed some attention (due to poor running etc), did the only thing we were capable of: lubricate. Then when that didn't work, we just lubed it some more! As they say, "The past is another (non internet/RUclips) country"! It just runs superbly now around your increasingly impressive layout. Your shooting locations/angles are great. PS: I now use Silver Tay. Excellent products & service.
It seems fitting for me that you feature a video of servicing a 9F Evening Star in the week we learn that Hattons is closing up shop. My first overseas purchase of locomotives was a 7F Morning Star and a 9F Evening Star from Hattons. I was looking at 9F's on eBay the other day, and It's strange that the secondhand Evening Stars available, and there are a lot of them, would cost me more now than those two locomotives cost me new back in those days.
Brilliant! Another Save from the Grave - Fantastic Valve Gear Action on this Iconic Beast - Looks Good and Strong now, pulling that Rake with Ease. Awesome Job yet Again 👏🏻🙏🏻✨
@oobill, your pug seems to run well over those Hornby points. Steve's donations are pretty good tbf, kudos to him for sending them your way, he could have made a fair amount selling them.
I can see that you had plenty to sort out with that engine i donated to you, none of these engines were touched by me all were purchased together so previous owner was guilty All the best. Steve
The contrast between the silky smooth, all-action movement of the 9F and the complete opposite from the 37 is remarkable. Both locos are favourites of mine, but for sheer visual pleasure the 9F wins hands down.
I don’t mind watching a Ringfield being re-built for the 100th time. We don’t watch this to see something new and unusual. We watch it to see something relaxing and constructive, which doesn’t involve a conflict in the Middle East, or corrupt politicians, or devastation to people’s homes, or insane culture wars. So, it definitely doesn’t matter if it’s the same old Ringfield motor, because it’s still infinitely better than what we’re avoiding.
Without knowing the provenance of the model, but I would say that this is a mid-1970s Fleischmann copy powered Evening Star paired with a much later end 1990's/early 2000's made Chinese tender. You cant put a 5-pole armature into a 3-pole housing, its not a direct replacement. The pinion is either one less, or one more tooth at 10T or 11T, and the gears are the right lighter grey colour of Chinese made models. The faceplate is also the correct pattern with the screwdown retainers, rather than the fold-over springy arms. The 2-1980's style plain wheels on the non-traction tyred side are a bit of a mystery, should be the same as the other, driven side with the spoked effect, which was another early Chinese improvement
Definitely a Bitsa, good spot smithge. Shaft diameters are also different between 3 and 5-pole armatures. The Fleischmann copy had current collectors on all driving wheels, but this one may not have any, relying on axle contact and so the loco provides one polarity and the two (only) metal tender wheels the other. Part of the Hornby shoddification process of a formerly excellent model. The attractive matt green body with picked out white pipes to the manifold is from the later model. Total reliance on the contacts on the drawbar and short wheelbase tender wheels meant poor running and subsequent Chinese production had a move back to collectors on the loco insulated wheels, and horizontal and vertical sliding contacts on the drawbar, hence pin and plate on the tender front. The old 9F had many excellent features, brass bearings in the chassis and enough clearance to get the wheelbase round tight bends, unlike the prettier Bachmann! I wonder whether the new £250 version will still be running in fifty years' time?
I'm just wondering.... what would you do or use if you didn't have the sonic cleaner?..... You use it a lot I have noticed.. but not all of us have one of those... Another great repair job as always...
Clock cleaning fluid. It's what I use in the sonic cleaner and what I used before I had it. The sonic cleaner speeds up the process though. Used to take 4 hours minimum to clean stuff whereas now it's half an hour.
The whole of the tender looks a bit of a botch, you have some spoked wheels and some bog standard disk wheels, looks like a mixture of a couple of drives.
To be honest I could watch you disassembling and reassembling the ring-field motors all day. I learn as you show. I remember seeing this beauty in action in its day it was so amazing and different to anything around at the time. Right, I am off now to look at my Mallard having been inspired to try to repair. Wish me luck.
They always run so well at the end of the video! Great service on a beautiful looking model.
Another repair job done by the Model equivalent of Springburn Works. I hope when the folk bid for 92220 Evening Star, it comes with a OO Bill certificate of health. The bubbling on the number can just be put down as a bit weathering whilst in service and adding the etched plates, just enhances the loco. Excellent as usual Bill. Thank you for sharing.
I think what happened, back in the day when there were no OOBill videos to show us the way, people - myself included - had a little knowledge of loco motors and, realising the loco needed some attention (due to poor running etc), did the only thing we were capable of: lubricate. Then when that didn't work, we just lubed it some more!
As they say, "The past is another (non internet/RUclips) country"!
It just runs superbly now around your increasingly impressive layout. Your shooting locations/angles are great.
PS: I now use Silver Tay. Excellent products & service.
Well done, OO Bill - the loco appears to be running really well following your servicing.
Great work bill 👏 👍 nice little loco . Keep up the good work 👏
Another brilliant repair. I love the running shots.
It seems fitting for me that you feature a video of servicing a 9F Evening Star in the week we learn that Hattons is closing up shop. My first overseas purchase of locomotives was a 7F Morning Star and a 9F Evening Star from Hattons. I was looking at 9F's on eBay the other day, and It's strange that the secondhand Evening Stars available, and there are a lot of them, would cost me more now than those two locomotives cost me new back in those days.
Brilliant! Another Save from the Grave - Fantastic Valve Gear Action on this Iconic Beast - Looks Good and Strong now, pulling that Rake with Ease. Awesome Job yet Again 👏🏻🙏🏻✨
Good thorough job Bill, valve gear looks fantastic when shes running.😊
Sunday morning, packing my new camping gear into my new rucksack and you post a video restoring my favourite ever loco. Perfect. Cheers, Bill 🍺🍻
you got her running beautifully, great job
That greasy ringfield definitely competes with a Bachmann one in a PCC tram I serviced last year. Ballbearing grease everywhere!
@oobill, your pug seems to run well over those Hornby points. Steve's donations are pretty good tbf, kudos to him for sending them your way, he could have made a fair amount selling them.
Nice job Bill, that thing was messed up in so many ways. Another one saved
I can see that you had plenty to sort out with that engine i donated to you, none of these engines were touched by me all were purchased together so previous owner was guilty
All the best. Steve
Well done 00 Bill🎉, Love your channel
Gosh, does that look the business pulling that rake of coaches!
The contrast between the silky smooth, all-action movement of the 9F and the complete opposite from the 37 is remarkable.
Both locos are favourites of mine, but for sheer visual pleasure the 9F wins hands down.
I don’t mind watching a Ringfield being re-built for the 100th time. We don’t watch this to see something new and unusual. We watch it to see something relaxing and constructive, which doesn’t involve a conflict in the Middle East, or corrupt politicians, or devastation to people’s homes, or insane culture wars.
So, it definitely doesn’t matter if it’s the same old Ringfield motor, because it’s still infinitely better than what we’re avoiding.
Long live steam and model railway.
Hi Bill, I'm not sure if it's just me but your recent videos seem to be a little quiet . Like always great video and informative :)
I thought that too
Mine says no 2 under the tender as well . Maybe there were different types of tender?
Looking at that wiring i wonder if that has had a DCC chip In it in the past, hence the poor wiring after removal.
Without knowing the provenance of the model, but I would say that this is a mid-1970s Fleischmann copy powered Evening Star paired with a much later end 1990's/early 2000's made Chinese tender. You cant put a 5-pole armature into a 3-pole housing, its not a direct replacement. The pinion is either one less, or one more tooth at 10T or 11T, and the gears are the right lighter grey colour of Chinese made models. The faceplate is also the correct pattern with the screwdown retainers, rather than the fold-over springy arms. The 2-1980's style plain wheels on the non-traction tyred side are a bit of a mystery, should be the same as the other, driven side with the spoked effect, which was another early Chinese improvement
Definitely a Bitsa, good spot smithge. Shaft diameters are also different between 3 and 5-pole armatures. The Fleischmann copy had current collectors on all driving wheels, but this one may not have any, relying on axle contact and so the loco provides one polarity and the two (only) metal tender wheels the other. Part of the Hornby shoddification process of a formerly excellent model. The attractive matt green body with picked out white pipes to the manifold is from the later model. Total reliance on the contacts on the drawbar and short wheelbase tender wheels meant poor running and subsequent Chinese production had a move back to collectors on the loco insulated wheels, and horizontal and vertical sliding contacts on the drawbar, hence pin and plate on the tender front. The old 9F had many excellent features, brass bearings in the chassis and enough clearance to get the wheelbase round tight bends, unlike the prettier Bachmann! I wonder whether the new £250 version will still be running in fifty years' time?
I'm just wondering.... what would you do or use if you didn't have the sonic cleaner?..... You use it a lot I have noticed.. but not all of us have one of those... Another great repair job as always...
Clock cleaning fluid. It's what I use in the sonic cleaner and what I used before I had it. The sonic cleaner speeds up the process though. Used to take 4 hours minimum to clean stuff whereas now it's half an hour.
Ok great thanks... Ill see if I can find some here in Australia...
Should the cylinders on the Evening Star be Black? Could it be that the chase is a replacement from a standard 5F?
5 pole ringfields are a nightmare to work on due to wiring, i prefer 3 pole
Apologies if this has been asked before but which ultrasonic cleaner do you use?
Do you know what happened to Barrie David ?
Nearly a two towel job.
Actually it was. Just different days.
I'm buying some shares in WD40 looking at the amount that the 00bill channel gets through 😂
The whole of the tender looks a bit of a botch, you have some spoked wheels and some bog standard disk wheels, looks like a mixture of a couple of drives.
Another great repair Bill. How do you do all that and still find time to build Shug a new kennel?🐕🦺🐕🦺