Logistics and Why “RECCE” LMG
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Trigger warning! I say “RECCE” a lot in this video. All kidding aside, in this video we discuss the origins of the name of our flag ship product, the RECCE LMG upper, and the thoughts and logistical considerations to why it exists in it’s form. All the details on our Auto-Rifle uppers can be seen on our website!
I was a supply sergeant and HQ PSG in a LRSC unit. Studying unit tactics that are used to operating with minimal support during missions is the best option for civilians. From a logistical standpoint Recon, Surveillance, etc are more analogous for civilians than SF type units or Infantry Rifle PLT’s or larger.
Can you and your mates carry everything you need for at least a week of movement and operations.
Welcome to getting in touch with your inner Marius Mule savages….stay frosty.
I already own the Klein Machine ARRPK upper with the 24" barrel, which I love in a similar role, but I'm giving your Recce LMG upper a hard look as well. If I could have a blend of their 24" super heavy profile, your integration of the Riflespeed gas block (which they don't even make for a .936" gas block journal), their inconel gas tube but a straight version to support the Riflespeed block, and your heat mitigation system for both barrel and tube, I think that'd be the most feature rich solution. Admittedly though, it might also be beyond the point of diminishing returns on weight and unit cost.
I had the exact same thought, but i think its the exact overkill im looking for.
For me, I would love to see a Klein machining 24” barrel with the H.M.S cooling fins on the barrel and a .936 piston system and an M60 bipod. Too bad that don’t make a bull barrel piston system.
@@desertpinoy5616 this makes perfect sense to me as well.
Better train your dog to carry ammo for your crew😂😂
Heroic design!
Small Team Supply handle feels awesome, thanks for that recommendation and the great service.
RPK is awesome. Rhodesian SAS used many RPD's on external operations. Some with cut down barrels. Excellent video.
Thank you!
Oh 100% The modded RPDs where super common as well! The two platforms where heavily employed by those units.
Mac sog did it first in viet nam the RPD's with the cut down barrels i mean
@@lobo-uh2tb MACV SOG with their LARP units also employed many similar tactics and weapon mods in Vietnam for sure!
Many folks don't remember the Rhodesian Bush war against communism waged during the same time as Vietnam. (1964-1979).
@@redrighthandllc damn i did not now the Rhodesian war was at the same time that the viet nam war i thought the Rhodesian war came after viet nam 🤦. thanks for the info bro 👍
@@lobo-uh2tb History classes don't teach what they use to for sure. Theres a lot of parallels to the conflicts as well, but behind the scenes a lot of geopolitics and domestic politics lead to having that conflict ignored in the west for the most part. And that was pretty much by goal of some major allied nations, who where actively battling communism like us, but they made sure Rhodesia was left out. Interesting time in history for sure, Highly recommend reading into it.
What trigger would you recommend?
Cant wait until the next batch ships out!
I think it would be fun to build a 5.56 ar15 lmg. Id run a 18" bull barrel maybe fluted, side charger upper, bipod and vertical grip, and a double drum mag with a binary
You can do it on the cheap by getting it from bear creek or psa. Its like 250 for a fluted upper with bcg! Crazy. For something that is just for fun and will likely never see real action its cool to have a company that has el cheapo stuff so we can live out our dreams of being a cool guy😂😂
@@Darthdoodooright, not everytihng has to be DOOTY rifEL
I suggest you avoid side charging handle uppers. My friend has one and we needed to take it apart but we didn't have a wrench with us to take off the charging handle. Standard uppers are simple stupid.
If I order one, is there an option for rhodie camo?
one of the most interseting ar15's so far in 2024. love it guys...
Thank you!
We launched this product in 2022 🫡 and after two years of support, 2024 is shaping up to be a huge year! Make Auto-Rifles Great Again 🇺🇸
@redrighthandllc sell your heat sinks and gas tube coils and you'll REALLY blow up the auto rifle market
What’s that bipod? I already have an M-16 A4 “clone” that I’m intending basically for the same role, but I’m looking into bipods for it because I don’t have one yet. 🤔
ruclips.net/video/4dxZESfb-Bo/видео.html
Model 1 Versa-pod, here our review on it.
@@redrighthandllc gonna check that out 👍🏻
@@redrighthandllc EDIT: NVM I found their website finally.
ok I’ve watched the review and I’m convinced, but I’m having trouble finding it on offer anywhere. Where’d y’all get yours? 😕
I have the Versa Pod with the skis. Awesome bipod for an Ar-RPK.
I understand it's not the focus of the design but what kind of accuracy are you getting?
These have been holding MOA with 77gr match ammo. Our 14,000rd full auto demo is holding at 1-1.2 MOA still with Federal 77gr Gold metal Match.
@@redrighthandllc thanks for the reply! That's really impressive. You guys have a really cool system. No pun intended.
@@maker_greg Thank you! 🤙🏻
2 Months later and I have to ask, what about non-disintegrating links? Can non-disintegrating links be reused reliably? I was thinking if non-disintegrating links can be reused multiple times reliably someone should make an American RPD that takes non-disintegrating links and also accepts stanag magazines as a backup. If the NFA and the huges amendment got repealed it would be very cool for the minutemen to have some sort of 5.56 RPG with non-disintegrating links.
We love disintegrating links but they take a belt system thats designed for that. Not impossible to come up with, just a huge feat to accomplish monetary wise as a small company. Not that that cannot happen in the future.
@@redrighthandllc What I meant to ask was what do you guys think about non-disintegrating links in terms of logistics for minutemen? Lets say hypothetically there was a 5.56 RPD that uses non-disintegrating links and also accepts stanag magazines. Would non-disintegrating links make more logistical sense for minutemen as appose to disintegrating links?
Thanks. I have written down your contact information and am looking forward to picking up an auto rifle from you if my stocks moon. Merry Christmas.
@@khaanadian9648 I think its a great logistic if you have re-useable links like a rpd or pkm, especially if they’re only 50 links long and can be attached to more sections. Link catchment be a good idea as well so you’re not loosing too many or tripping/catching the links on the environment. Minuteman and small squads could handle feeding such a link system better then running the m27 links for i feel resupply of belted m27 linked ammo be non-existent once resources began to dry up within small ops like those.
"Non-disintegrating" links have been around for over 140 years and are very reliable. The early MGs used cloth belts which did not disintegrate. Those were reloaded but depending, could have issues with moisture.
The Com Block has long used non-disintegrating links and their weapons have been very reliable.
Rpd stinks, many problems with those guns. Pkms are worth it if you're abroad because you can get hot ap ammo in some places. Belts are a waste of time up unless you're in the US military and get your ammo delivered pre loaded in belts. Even rus mil don't get that.
Any plans for an upper with a quick change barrel system?
Kinda defeats the purpose don't you think?
If we design a belt fed, sure, but for the role of a "Auto-Rifle" a Quick Change type barrel system is rather pointless.
@@redrighthandllc Will you guys do a "meltdown" video to demonstrate how much rounds an upper can take before failure?
@@weaponized_saltiness Meltdowns really don’t prove much, everything eventually burns up… even high end guns die rather fast, look at the golden webb videos. The system will last a long time and do its job, but it’s inevitable we reach cook off temperatures and the testing becomes unsafe in that regard. We plan to film such abuse, likely the testing will take a more realistic form of firing schedule where we get to a set round count, cool, and continue, hit that round count again, cool, and repeat. Thats more purposeful data compared to just shoot it till it’s super un-safe and burned up. All in all expect those videos here in the short future regarding high round counts.
What model of suppressor is that, that looks like it's designed to clip toollessly onto an A2 birdcage?
Its a Griffin Armament M4SD-II Gate lok silencer and it attaches right onto a2 birdcages.
Another option is the B&T Rotex-X if you have an A2 flash hider.
That’s what I went with months ago. Just waiting for F Troop to do their thing and issue my stamp. 🫤
@@batou1976 We are waiting on our A2S-QD to arrive from Griffin Armament. We love mounting directly to A2s here!
@@redrighthandllc I was originally going to buy the Griffin GP-N suppressor; i hadn’t heard of B&T, somehow. Guy at the shop showed me the Rotex and I bought that. 🤑
What kind of accuracy are you seeing with that upper? I am very interested
I have the IARv1 and get 2-3 MOA with ball ammo and 1 MOA with 77gr SMK.
@@FierceDeity95 I really appreciate you telling me
I can't wait to get an Ar-RPK
What are some of the books that you speak of?
The book series on the SAS by Hannes Wessels are great.
Do you have a video showing it without the handguard?
Watch our Introduction to the Heat Mitigation Video on our channel. We also have photos on the website.
Can you do a video on tripod use?
Nightfighter will be dropping some tripod use videos at one point.
I haven’t got one in the shop just yet. We do have a BOG but its not a true “tripod” for machine gunner type use.
Nightfighter will be dropping some tripod use videos at one point.
I haven’t got one in the shop just yet. We do have a BOG but its not a true “tripod” for machine gunner type use.
How much does the upper weigh? I am trying to get a comparison between this and the IAR.
This will weigh in more than the IAR, the LMG’s barrel is 3.3lbs, the lmg upper complete with no accessories is pushing 5.5lbs.
The full LMG rifle build seen in this video for example with optics, the lower, bipod is 12.9lbs adding the silencer pushes it to 14lbs.
The RECCE IARs on average fully kitted are 8-11lbs depend on how you kit them out, but the IAR uppers on their own are about the weight of a standard Block II upper.
@@redrighthandllc thanks! So the LMG is going to feel more like a target AR10 which isn’t too hefty.
@@joshuadeanb It also has a pretty good balance, it doesn’t feel as heavy as it is long as you kit it out in a manner that feels good to you.
Just for reference an unloaded RPK is 10.5lbs.
@@redrighthandllc it can’t be much different than a DMR/high power upper either. Very manageable. My AR10 isn’t bad either.
Somebody needs to combine this upper with Desert Tech Quattro lower.
Yes.
We did, and it's awesome. Check out our channel for the video.
Oh hell yeah!
What bipod is that and do you recommend it?
It is the Versa-pod Model 1 all steel bipod. If you are use to the Bipod on the M249 it will be very similar in function. Its not bad, I still think the GGG XDS HD is a better bipod for most folks, and its still my favorite one.
Thank you
How tight are the groups, are we talking 2 moa?
The auto-rifle concept is judged by a Cone of fire in terms of shooting bursts.
However with good ammo and a good shooter, the uppers can hold MOA in semi-auto pretty easily since its a HBAR barrel and lends itself to a tight shooter.
Can install on Mil-spec lower receiver?
Yes, Our uppers are mil-spec and will fit to any properly made mil-spec lower.
Has anyone run the Devil Dog side charging handle on one of these yet?
Do these run well with steel ammo?
Yes, they are gassed in a manner they can run lower pressure ammo such as wolf and tula.
@@redrighthandllc sorry about all my comments, you can ignore them. Thanks for the response
What bipod is that?
It is the Versa-pod Model 1 all steel bipod. If you are use to the Bipod on the M249 it will be very similar in function. Its not bad, I still think the GGG XDS HD is a better bipod for most folks, and its still my favorite one.
You mean the carrying handle is actually a carrying handle??
I dig the shit out of this.
I hope you guys are so successful, that you will end up building a short-stroke(AR180 style) system(which is the best system to run suppressed)and eventually designing something in 7.62 NATO. But this is definitely a great game changer. Good luck guys and great job 👏🏻👍🏻🤝
Thank you 🇺🇸 We offer a 7.62 Nato Upper now 🤙🏻
@@redrighthandllc yeah I saw that, you guys are the best! Any plans for a short stroke system?
What kind of stock is that..🤔
Magpul PRS Lite
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SPR LMG when
Keep a eye out on Contingency Co this spring 😉
Still no meltdown video.....
As I have said in the past, It's very expensive for lil return and no ability to monetize that video, all just to do a "pure for entertainment" video like that. We have taken steps to make something like that happen but thats still a while out if it happens.
@@redrighthandllc just go over to faith outdoors I’m sure they will donate the ammo 😂
@redrighthandllc well, one thing a video like that could do is attract more customers once they see that it can really resist heat like it says it can. I personally love the weapon and I'm saving up for the recce iar myself, but you know how people are, they need to be convinced this is better than an lmg. Find a way to make or get a reliable hi cap mag and you may just attract the attention of the military since the ngsw is so up in the air.
Auto Rifle would be a more appropriate name.
That's really a classification of weapon type, not really a name, but Call your build whatever you like though!
@@redrighthandllc I was thinking that automatic rifle avoided not being able to change the barrel and not being belt-fed, i.e. bar, rpk, et al. Enjoying your channel