@@raulantunez4228 So, does that mean they mistranslated killing in the bible? Or you just want to hear what you want to hear? If you don't want to be a christian, then you're not one dw.
@@raulantunez4228 this guy really said there are multiple theories that say it's misinterpreted but still fighting when it's clearly wrong lmao. You can't just change a point in bible, don't worry ur still a sinner like it or not.
The truth we made god before we made him it's chemistry we don't know what lies before we close our eyes for ever if it's eternal darkness and we leave the pain for our loved ones, why should we judge what we create
We are ALL broken, and we all deserve to go to Hell. Thankfully the Lord Jesus Christ has given us a way out, he paid our punishment with his blood on the cross. Seek out the Lord Jesus Christ, admit to him that you are a Sinner in need of salvation. Confess your sins and then repent. Ask Jesus to give you a new heart. He loves us very much, if he was willing to pay the punishment for what we have all done...
If you see your mother being being atacked do you just stare and do nothing and wait the police to "handle it" and do their work? God works through us.
Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's views and trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and everyone's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say.
Since I was 5 years old I sought God. Couldn’t read, didn’t understand the deep stuff. But I saw how my parents loved God and I wanted in. I remember being so honest at 5 years old, I poured everything out: every fear, every frustration. But my relationship with God became an unending conversation. People must have thought I was schizophrenic lol. In this type of relationship with God, I was so caught up in seeking His will and his direction, that I didn’t even think about sexual attractions until after highschool. Funny enough, it wasn’t until I was exposed more and more to the world that my God time began to be divided smaller and smaller. I made choices I regret but I think God held onto me and reminded me of his faithfulness to me for all those years. He has now blessed me with a wife who also loves Him and 2 beautiful children:) All that to say, truly fix your eyes on him, and let him form your desires. If you fix your eyes on the world or even yourself, you will be led astray. Whether it’s being gay, or heterosexuals addicted to porn. None of it is godly. He’s the answer. It’s really that simple.
My main point here is: Many claim, that homosexuality like we know it today didnt exist back then and therefore everything the bible says against it is just wrong interpreted. But that claim is false as you cant just take the worldly views of your time and age and interpret everything into the bible, so that it fits modern Agenda. All i had to read about it was Romans 1. It describes what is happening today very well. The created today is more important for himself than the creator and everything else has to fit the createds sinful needs and desires, otherwise he and thw world will hate and abandon it.
Exactly! If you follow the world the world would lead you astray because it’s full of sin. And the world is leading us further and further away. The evil knows what it’s doing because they don’t want everyone to build a relationship with God or Jesus. That’s why people need to wake up before it’s too late.
@@SaucyCow19 Being gay is NOT a sin. And given the damage religion has done over the centuries it is good we are getting away from it. YOU need to wake up, you are delusional, demons do not exist.
@@Nonalhomophobie Reminder: You CANNOT prove God does not exist. There’s no evidence to disprove His existence. So don’t tell believers to “prove” He exists when you cannot prove He doesn’t. :) Thanks
“We love because he first loved us. Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister.” 1 John 4:19-21 NIV
@David Vanpatten I agree, and homosexuality is not a sin, nor is bi sexuality or heterosexuality. Thats the problem making something a sin when it is not.
We don't need to love someone who is the supposed reason we must all die one day. He knew Adam and Eve would eat the fruit, yet he still set them up for failure and then blamed us, children of the sinners for something we had no part in. God does not love us, he just wants to control us and that's what the bible depicts. So I'd rather be happy than live a sad life to please a psychopathic fairy tale
@@ganymede8257 God has let you live up to this day, he has given man so many chances, he even let his son die on the cross for our sins, the devil wants you to believe that god isn’t real or he doesn’t love you, he is trying harder to get people to stop following God, why do you think he doesn’t love when he has done so much for you.
@@crystalwyrm4767 I don't think someone loves me when the only confirmation I have for his existence is a 7000 thousand year old, mistranslated and factually incorrect book. He had 7000 years to give us a reason to believe in him, but he never did. Not only that, but his supporters are the biggest reason I was driven away from the religion. At this point, if he wants to blame me for staying away from Christianity he is nothing but a false idol
To the people who think that being gay is a choice, does that mean when you were young you could have chosen to be gay if you wanted to? If you answer no to that question, why would you think that someone else could or would choose to be gay? I honestly don't know why I am gay, but I do know that it had nothing to do with how my parents raised me. I was nowhere near a "momma's boy". I was actually much closer to my dad and spent more time with him than I did with my mom, and he treated me just like any "normaI" dad would treat his son. I was raised exactly the same way and in the same house as my older brother, who turned out to be straight. And I was never sexually abused when I was a kid. I never even knew anyone who was gay until I was 17. Nothing about my childhood was abnormal or out of the ordinary. If it were as easy as just being a choice, I would have chosen to be straight a long time ago, because the discrimination and hatred that many gay people face has tormented me for most of my life. Because of that, I still haven't accepted myself for being gay, unfortunately, from the time I knew that I was different from other boys when I was around 8-9 years old, all the way up until today. I thank God that there are caring people out there who support and understand the LGBTQ community.
Well sorry to burst your bubble, but repent and ask God for forgiveness and the wisdom and vision to see the truth. Trust me, after that things will get better for you! Good luck.
@@nathandiaz6951 Nathan, don't worry, you didn't burst my bubble. Thank you for the kind words and advice, I really do appreciate your concern, but what I left out of my original comment above is that I have been a faithful, devout Christian for most of my life. I have done all of the things that you suggested I do, many, many times, for a very long time. When I was just 11, I started praying and pleading to God for forgiveness and to deliver me from the same sex attractions I had always felt. When I turned 16 and was able to drive, I started going to church every Sunday. I learned I had to seek salvation in Christ through repentance and faith, and I wholeheartedly accepted Jesus as my personal savior. I'm now almost 40 years old, so unfortunately, I have been waiting a very long time for my prayers to be answered...So now, instead of continuing to wait for something to happen and being constantly disappointed, I think the best thing I could do for myself is to start working on accepting myself for who and what I am, and to try to come to terms with the fact that I will always be gay. I don't think I will ever be able to like being gay, but I guess I can accept it as it is. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop praying, as prayer is one of the keys to living the principle of repentance each day. The Lord told us we are to offer a broken heart and a contrite spirit, and that takes humility. God bless my friend.
Hello Friend. you will not be able to remove your attraction to men, because it refers to your body, not your mind. All you can do is just control it. The Lord said through the Apostle Paul: the male-bearers will not enter the kingdom of heaven. I am bisexual, of course, I have no idea what I would do if I had your body - because you are not attracted to women, that is, you have no godly substitute to satisfy your instinct. I try to nip in the bud the homosexual thoughts that sometimes come to me, because I understand that this is wrong and unnatural. If this is not the case, then in the end, not everything revolves around sex! In a kind and friendly way, I advise you to forget about sex, identifications, orientations altogether. this is all unnecessary nonsense! There is art, cultures of different peoples, technologies, literature - that's what you need to spend time on! Most likely, God did not give you a craving for a woman so that you devote yourself to creative self-realization! this is a higher goal than procreation. All the best to you, sir. I hope I expressed a useful thought for you.
“Blessed are the undefiled in the way, Who walk in the law of the LORD. Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, And that seek him with the whole heart.” Psalm 119:1-2 KJV
I love my faith...but I’m struggling with homosexuality but I’m scared to tell anyone because I feel in my church I would be looked at differently and my family would be disappointed and I’m scared I’m gonna go to hell even just for having these emotions but at the same time I’ve never even engaged in anything with a girl but I feel as if I’m gonna be alone in this and I’m very sad that I know I can’t show my emotions to the person I like and I have a brother and he has a girlfriend and I’m just look at him with her and sometimes feel as if I’ve been robbed of something that everyone else has... I truly as you said feel broken and lost and that I’m less to God
There are many churches that know homosexuality is not a sin or wrong. This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@hydrate your soul - Yes churches will help you overcome much. Homosexuality not nothing to overcome. The question stands: This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@hydrate your soul Homosexuality is NOT a mere "struggle" and cannot be "overcome". It can't and doesn't need to be. Leave people alone, stop harassing them and pushing them to suicide, asshole.
@hydrate your soul They are not derogatory terms, they're just the words you deserve. You haven't proved anything so far, except that you are a moron and a hateful hypocrite who can't accept the real world. I am much more strong-willed than you'll ever be, because I will never let myself be enslaved by lies and delusion.
@hydrate your soul - The question proves homosexuality is not a sin -- This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Practically everything he said was wrong. "God says it's wrong" is not a valid reason. Jesus said that everything is based on love God and love neighbour which gay people can do too. He conjectures it's self-worship but provides no evidence. I've known self-worshiping straight people but every gay person I've met was genuine and humble. Rom 1 doesn't even describe homoxesuality. It's not caused by idolatry, no gay man has "set aside the natural use of the female" which he never even had, and no gay person I've known has "been filled with all kinds of evil".
I think people don’t fully grasp the horrible pain our Lord Jesus Christ suffered on that day. People can say “sure, he was crucified but a ton of people went through being hung on a cross.” No, no, no. It wasn’t just that horrible pain, no, he had the all the sins of the entire world on him. That bad thing you did to your parent the other day? He carried that for you. The rude remark you made at your friend the other day? He died so you could be forgiven. Jesus took all of our sins, each, every, single, one, of, them, and DIED for us. He took those sins and paid the price that needed to be paid for the horrible actions we continue to do every day. Our Heavenly Father, the almighty Creator, our Holy God sent his only son, his beloved son, to our world, our broken, our ruined and sinful world, a world of mortality, sin and death. He became man and God, a combination of both. He lowered himself to us, he became one of us. Except, he was perfect, unlike the rest of us. He didn’t sin. He had every right to go against us. No. He came to our terrible world and taught and showed us the way to Heaven. He made it possible for us to go live with him and the Father for eternity. He brought Heaven to us. Our good works don’t get us to Heaven. The faith that the Holy Spirit inspires in us every day. And even then our Lord wasn’t done! He took all those terrible sins you committed with him as he died on that cross. He went to hell, and conquered the power of the grave, and the dead rose! He did something that is impossible for any imperfect man to do. He did what we could not, he paid the price for us. He saved us. And still, our Triune God, three in One, Father, Son, and Spirit, wasn’t done! He still isn’t done! He continues to give us chance after chance in our lives to believe in him and find the way. He gives those who have found it the ability to help others find that some path too. He nourishes us and others in our faith through us. He uses Christian teachers to spread the great message and word to young children or younger kids. He continues everyday to pull us closer and closer to him. And when we finally die? It’s not the end, we aren’t truly dead, because of him, we are able to live on, but not only that, we are able to become perfect again, like we were meant to be. We are able to become what we were always meant to be before the fall. He did that for us. He gave us the chance to become perfect again. And when you look at the numbers, so few people actually do take that chance, that opportunity he gave to us. Others right out call him names, attempt to shame him, and other terrible deeds. HE DIED FOR YOU! HE STILL LOVES YOU! All those people that attempted to stone him, or whipped him as he carried his cross? HE STILL LOVED THEM SO DEARLY! When we stone him with our harsh words or thoughts against him, what does he do? CONTINUE TO LOVE US!! HIS LOVE NEVER FAILS! IT NEVER WAVERS, THAT SAME LOVE IS THERE! Do you realize how much it must hurt for our Holy Triune God when people go and just downright insult him? Why? WHY! HE DIED FOR US, HE DIDNT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING FOR US! GOD GAVE US FREE WILLS, AND WHAT DO WE DO? WE DISOBEY HIM DAY BY DAY! WE DO HORRIBLE ACTS, CLAIMING AND SHAMING HIS NAME WITH THEM! WE ARE HORRIBLE AND SINFUL AND JUST DOWNRIGHT NASTY PEOPLE AND CREATURES WHO DOES NOT DESERVE HIS LOVE! But what does he do? He forgives us. When we confess to him our horrible acts, our horrible deeds, he pulls us close to him and tells us that we are forgiven, that our sins have been paid for on the cross that our Lord Jesus Christ died on, and took those terrible sins with him. Our perfect Lord, one who we don’t deserve at all, gave us and continued to give us wonderful gifts that we don’t deserve. Our Lord, our Holy Triune God, is just perfectly amazing. The world adorable? That world only should be used for Jesus. We should adore him. Some do, some don’t. But one thing is for certain: our Holy, almighty God loves us so much we can’t even fathom it. As far as the east is from the west he loves us. The message we all need to hear: Our God loves us so much, he did so much for us and still does. That message, is something I hope gets to many hearts and ears, and helps them realize truly how great our Lord is. Glory be to God our Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth and Creator of all things. Glory be to the Son, who died for our sins and saved us from eternal damnation. And glory to the Holy Spirit, who nourishes us in our faith and touches the hearts of many. May this message of God touch your heart and help you find him in eternal peace, Amen.
@@samanthatitus4133 no it doesn't work that way he didn't just do that for the people who were there when he was alive he did it for people in the Future to.
I've seen other videos about what the bible says about homosexuality. I've noticed a theme with other video's claiming the bible says homosexuality is okay. Only difference from your video compared to the other videos I've seen is, there were no mentions about any of of the section of the Bible you spoke on. Which really wasn't a surprise to me. The word of God is phenomenal and I appreciate you sharing what knowledge you have gathered for all to hear. God bless everyone
@equalism 42 If they really loved each other in a romantic way then God would've found way for them to be together since David is a faithful servant. God bless you! God loves you!
@equalism 42 Ok so first things first. Jesus comanded us that we should love EVERYONE as ourselves. In their generation, they only do that on their own family unit. I'm sorry but that's not what the Bible meant as you mean. David was living under King Saul's palace because he was a good servant to King Saul. Secondly, David loved King Saul's daughter. I'm quite sure that King Saul's daughter was the reward for David's good faithfulness as servant. If they were together, they're just friends. God is good! God bless you!
@equalism 42 For the last time I will say we should actually love EVERYONE as we love ourselves. That passed the love of woman means that David really loved his best friend Jonathan than any marriage including what you think. Let me explain to you one by one of the verses. This is NIV. The verse one indicates that they became one in spirit means they will serve the Israelites together. Even in the New Testament says that we should all be in one Spirit. The verse 2 indicates that they will really serve the world together since David is living under King Saul's roof. The verse 3 is the promise that Jonathan will protect David with all of his care. This is not marriage. If this is marriage, It would really say in the Bible that they are married. If you actually read most of the Bible's marriages they always indicate the word Marriage. The verse 4 indicates that this is the passing of ruling. This happens a lot on acient times. A father giving his heirs to his son but Jonathan is the one who gave it to David because he believes that David should be the next one who should take the throne. Fyi, don't curse. God is good! God loves you! May God bless you! ^-^
@equalism 42 God made sex as unity. Honestly, I have read this somewhere in Corinthians that sex in marriage is not allowed. God bless you! God loves you the very best!
um... i think its the act of rejecting lust that i think we're missing. All sexuality, regardless if you're homosexual or heterosexual, its based of physical attraction. That's it, the reason you look at a certain sex and feel attraction is based off that persons physical demeanor. Obviously not everyone is going to be attracted to the exact same physical qualities because God created us to look physically different. Being heterosexual is not automatically going to get you into heaven PERIOD; there's plenty of straight people who do sexually immoral things in the eyes of God, like having children out of wedlock & adultery. Just like there's gay people who can also commit adultery and commit sexually immoral acts. If you know God and know Jesus died for your sins you would know that worldly things do not matter. All Sexuality is worldly and can be used as another distraction from your connection with God and whats really important. As God's children we shouldn't have so much judgment because we could've easily been in another persons situation just as easily as you are in yours. The sexual lust we all share and feel is not rare and is common in all of us. Lust which is one of the sins the Bible talks about and once you recognize/denounce that your becoming more like the Holy spirit who has no need for worldly things. Initially when God created Adam & Eve they were naked and were not ashamed or aware that their physical state only until after the serpent tricked them they began to FEEL shame and cover themselves. Before that they knew no different between each-other; the devil is going to try to make you FEEL things so that ultimately you would FEEL that God doesn't love you. God just want you to drop how you FEEL & put your all/trust in HIM. I feel like that's the message and unintentional or intentional division is separating us from that, because if you think about it we were ALL born into or out of a result of sin the only one that wasn't was Jesus... just saying. God bless yall
Joshua Nicholls I wouldn't go that far. They have been brain washed bro. They live in fear and denial of common sense. But they have been brainwashed. As an escapee of the Pentecostal CULT, trust me when I say, Its VERY difficult to get out of it. Have a little more understanding in that they have quite literally been brought up in a cult that forces them to remain in fear and servitude. They are sheep, yes. But let's be grateful that we aren't them and that we were gifted with common sense.
Jonathan and David were not homosexuals though. The problem is when two males have sexual relations. God calls this an abomination to Him and a sin against one's self. If David or Jonathan had committed the sin of homosexuality, God would have disciplined them.
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Hmm, no. The Hebrew word "toevah" meant ritually taboo or culturally unclean, not deadly or sinful. For example, it would be an "abomination" for an Israelite to dine with an Egyptian, but that's clearly not an evil or immoral action. If you'd like to tell me why exactly the ritual purity laws of the Old Testament still apply to modern Christians, be prepared to go after men with long hair, shrimp-eaters, and everyone with a tattoo. All of those people commit equally "abominable" acts according to the OT.
I am a Christian and I also a gay man secretly. I got married to my wife 4 years ago and this has been incredibly one of the most challenging walks of my life. I don't know how long I can keep going on, but my family is very conservative and have been told countless times that divorce is not an option. My family doesn't know that I am gay but my wife does and she says that I am decent guy and that it would be hard for her to find someone else. I really don't know what to do. I never imagined that life would get so hard getting married and that not being attracted could consume all of me totally. I feel so disoriented many days and I totally immerse myself with work to keep me away from my thoughts and my feelings. To top it all, there is a lot of shame because we don't have children and my parents talk only about it every time we speak. I don't know what the way out is or if there is one.. I've lost my zeal, passion to even live and all I wanted was to live that one person. Share laugh. But that is perhaps too much for me to ask at this point.
I'm sorry you are going through this. The bright side is that you've got your wife's support. Maybe you can take one or more male lovers ? As for children, you can not have any. Your family has nothing to say about it.
I'd just like to point out here that as Christians we believe God to be absolutely sovereign. His word is sovereign whether we "agree" with it or not . And personally, as I came to know Christ I had to wrestle with trusting Him to be sovereign+good. I did not like a lot of things I read in the Bible at first, and I went through a period of 3 years where I basically said "Fuck you" to the Lord. Then after that I stopped pursing Him (until later). It has been 1.5 years now, and after coming to the end of my rope, I decided to try again and pursue God (who pursues us first). It took what felt like ages to finally realize His sovereignty and goodness. First, one must know He is sovereign. He has the ultimate authority. Second, they must realize that God cannot lie or be impure in any kind of way, for He is only Holy. And this knowledge is given by God. So basically If God forbids something, us as His followers recognize His absolute authority in the matter, and that is that. Reverence for God is the beginning of knowledge. Many people also do not understand the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit, there is much blindness when reading the Bible (unless God ordains sight or you ask Him directly for help understanding something). All wisdom and knowledge is His.
So The first time i watched porn ofc as a guy , i instantly tried normal ones but i couldn't watch it even after many times . It felt very dirty and unimaginable and it did not at all made me horny or excited at all . Rather grossed me out . But as i saw the other kinds it instantly burned through my blood , it was lust , attraction . That was my first encounter or discovery of that side of me I've always been Christian , had gfs too always believed i was straight cus uk that's how the world is . Men and woman . But throughout , i never even had the urge to kiss them or excited in them in any way . . So straights get to have sex with pure lust , attraction , and happiness with marriage with Ppl they are attracted to by birth , satisfaction and us the others ( if i may add who are also made this way by birth ) need to fake it ? Need to force it in the name of law ? But isn't lying or faking a sin agn . Do we stay in celibacy for the rest of our lives ? We were born with it too like all of you . And yet we have to put aside our happiness and live by law ? While the rest of the world can live in happiness ? Does the Bible teach us discrimination ? Doesn't it stand for love one love all ? Jesus loved all the children , he loved them all, all different colours . It stood for equality . Where is the equality in this ? I'm always a devoted Christian , church many times a week , sing in the churchs as well , believe in god and accepted Jesus as my saviour . But this part . I really questions our lord . Why ? How ? Where do I go from here ? I've watched so many people trying to explain but it never never is right . I won't twist the words in the Bible . I won't go against anything . But as a teen as a human , born with lust like all of you can i really keep this aside in life ? words so powerful so true so strong . Why did it prohibit it but made me born like this , doesn't that makes it go against itself ? Lemme share another fact . When i was young i was sick . Like real sick for months and after some long months i slept ..a deep sleep , filled with nightmares for days . But one night in a dream i was taken away in a dark village . And then it was this light shiloutte of a person that put his hand on my head and woke me.up . I woke.up healed and perfectly fine which amazed everyone . This is why my faith is ( or was ) soo strong . The shiloutte of light had curly hair but i didn't see the hand . I jas assumed it was god or his angels . I was a kid who prayed to him everyday . I thought he saved me cus he loved and cherished me . But then now why saved a gay kid ? Jas to be discriminated upon by the laws u set ? These unanswered qs will stay with me for life
@@SamVSwain In what way? Your bible is only 3000 years old, humans like us (homo sapiens) exist since 300,000 years. In none of the millions of artefacts, cave paintings, scriptures or any other testimony in the 297,000 years before the bible, your homophobic “one and only” god was ever mentioned. Your version of a homophobic “one and only” god is an invention only 3000 years old. One day your religion will disappear like all other religions, homosexuals then will still go on existing : ) Have a great day : )
One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria… “God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated.
I don't really understand this mentality tho. The bible is the bible. If some of its passages seem outdated and out of place in today's world that's because the bible, as a whole, is utter BS. It doesn't mean however that the bible doesn't says what it clearly says lol. Muslims got the right idea on this, 15 or so century since their guy died and they're still throwing gays off the roof lol which is certainly bad however it's what their religion commands them to do. It's best if you see religion for what it is and leave it because it doesn't make sense rather than sugarcoat the religion and its impact on the world.
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.” Proverbs 3:5-6 NIV God is higher and greater than us, we must follow his ways if we want to be saved.
"Why is homosexuality wrong?" Why is being tall wrong? Why is being left-handed wrong? Why is being blonde wrong? The obvious answer, to the rational and educated is: none of these innate traits ARE wrong.
England is my city The evidence for the biblical God surrounds us. Look around you, that's a miracle. God is so great, that proves he's real... Idk lol why're you asking me?
StaryKawaii Co Handedness and Homosexuality are actually connected genetically when it comes to the older brother hypothesis. Blanchard et al. argued that the fraternal birth order effect (the probability that a boy will be homosexual increases with the number of older brothers who have the same biological mother) appears to be limited to right-handed men.
Jazzmoji ! Hey, !!! thousands of people have changed their sexualities, just because you like to embrace your warped fetishes doesn't mean others are like you, dimwit
I'm a Homosexual, and I am laughing because half of all the people are saying that God hates us Homosexuals, and how they want us to "join" "God", and if I'm going to Hell, I'm getting a girlfriend first. - A Homosexual Girl.
Well first I think you have this all wrong, God loves homosexuals and if anyone tells you he hates homosexuals then they are wrong! God loves them but not there sin and same with me I love and respect the people but not what they believe or stand for
@KJV You have no authority to assert what the body should be used for, sociopath. IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Your brain is broken. The sexual tract is a sexual organ, starting by the mouth, as usual.
If you're offended by someone telling you something you're doing is wrong and explaining why in the most respectful and humble way, without ever implying any hatred upon you or forcing you to agree with them. You really need to sit down and ask yourself why.
***** Yes it is... Where did you get that idea? The old testament describes it as an abomination before the lord. i.e it's wrong meaning it's sinful. The word "sin" may or may not be used in reference (I haven't read all the texts. ) but wrong and sin are exactly the same in the bible. The old testament is also known as the Torah; which is jewish text. That has never changed, The Jews made a point to accurately record their texts... so..
Isaac Gukas In the OT it is idolatry that is the sin, not homosexuality. Do not cheery pick a verse without the context. Abomination has not 1 thing to do with sex - again, context. Since you like the OT let me cherry pick a few verses and let you - DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21 If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately. DEUTERONOMY 22:22 If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death. LEVITICUS 18:19 The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed. DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12 If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.
***** Wrong = sin. simple. That's what sin is.. it's anything that's wrong. at least that's the simplified explanation. It's disobeying god's commandments. Killing is not referred to as a sin in the bible. Does that make it okay?? You and I would both recognise it as sinful or wrong. I'm gonna apologize in advance for the paragraph that I may write to you now. I love that you used the word cherry pick.. That's exactly what you did. Thankyou for sharing those verse.. You haven't achieved what I can see you're trying to do. nice try though. Maybe a few years back that would have phased me. But I know much more now. You shared Leviticus 18:19... well done. But what about Leviticus 18:22. "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." (In the same way as the commandment not to kill disobeying this law means you've also sinned..) Or Leviticus 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them." Before you start to talk about the bible, make sure you've read and understand It within correct context. For example, Yes those are all laws in the bible but not all of them are relevant. Lets not forget that the OT was originally for the Jews. They were required to abide by each law. However when jesus came, He fullfilled the Law. i.e He completed everyone of those laws you point out. So they are made null and christians are not required to follow them. Futhermore we live from the perspective of the teachings and likeness of Jesus Christ.. we are christians after all so thats important when reading the OT. SO recap.. Jesus fullfiled the Law meaning christian are not required to live under those laws. However those laws that pertain to MORAL law are still relevant; right and wrong still exist. Homosexuality is under the category of moral law. You and I definitely agree on that. And the bible is very clear on whether it is right or wrong. Jesus said, "God made them male and female. For this reason a man will leave his mother and be united with his wife and the two will become one flesh" Jesus did not offer any other configuration. And Homosexuality was a thing as well then.
Isaac Gukas Your opinions are not Biblical fact - who have you stoned lately? You use the OT to say homosexuality is a sin (when it is idolatry that is the sin), then you say >"Lets not forget that the OT was originally for the Jews. They were required to abide by each law. However when jesus came, He fullfilled the Law. "< Guess Jesus only left the part of the OT that you want to still be in force - you pick and choose as I have said. Then you go and categorize what you think is moral or not - Did Jesus categorize, or even mention homosexuality - no, yet you do. Then you go back to the OT again - are you mixed up - yes. You use the parts of the Bible you want and ignore others - so typical of so call christians - I'll follow Jesus Christ. thank you. What was it Jesus Christ (God on earth) said about homosexuality - oh ya not 1 word, yet you do. You are lost - homosexuality is not a sin in the original text of the Bible. Believe as you wish, God gave you free will to be flat out wrong as you are. Know God loves you same as God loves me - there is no difference in God's love Bye
@@AVeryOldLady4397 no you don't. But you are an internet troll, and a very unintelligent one at that. You're so low, you're a disgrace to the professional internet trolls.
I am a Christian myself, and I find it so heartbreaking that many other Christians are scared that choosing not to support LGBTQ+ is wrong and they will be scared about other people's opinions, all I have to say is Do not be scared of other people's opinions while trying to follow the Bibles words, keep on following the Bibles words and it will be the best decisions of your life and God will be proud. as a Bible scripture says: Do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. - Isaiah 41:10
@@force9791 yes, adam and eve, bla bla bla. yet homosexuals still exist. god must have created them aswell, hm? there must be a good reason for that then.
He did not speak a shred of proof ; he is a moron and a monster, encouraging discrimination and violence against homosexuals, and their self-loathing and depression.
@@Nonalhomophobie He is not a moron, he is not a monster, he is not encouraging discrimination and violence against homosexuals, and their self-loathing and depression. However, there is nothing wrong with being LGBT because it is scientific and Jesus loves everyone so Homosexuality is not a sin.
@@aspiknf Of course he is a moron and of course he is encouraging discrimination and violence. He is "explaining" why being gay is "wrong. That's the first thing asked in the video.
Beth Matsuda I'm not gay. Sometimes I wish I were gay. I think it would make things easier. But I wasn't born gay, so I can't become gay. It's not like it's a choice. Also, at 5:21 he claims it's unnatural, which is clearly wrong. There have been over 500 species discovered that show homosexual behavior. At 5:25 he displays a somewhat troublesome opinion. He says that heterosexuality can be sin or holy, but homosexuality can only be sin or chaste. So he admits that the inclination to homosexuality is not a choice. But his answer basically is "though luck, god made you gay, but god hates gays, so you better come to terms with your brokenness".
Fluffymuffy Pelican So? What of it? No one forces you to be gay. Just let them live their lives in peace. After all, GOD will torture them for eternity after death. Isn't this enough? Must you hate on them as well while they're alive? Filling your heart with hate is sinfull too, you know. Also, Jesus never mentioned homosexuality once. Should make you wonder.
***** How do you know no one is born gay? Because they don't have homosexual relations? But, surprise(!), I'm going to let that stand. From what we know, even though there is surely a substantial genetic influence, the sexual orientation develops to a large part after birth. However, the sexual orientation forms at an age where children cannot make that choice.
@Viktor Petrov Denial is on your side, as usual, sociopath. It is you who are incapable to give a rational argument against homosexuality. You constantly repeat "God's commands" (without ever proving God exists) "natural order" (when there is no such thing and when homosexuality is adamantly part of the animal kingdom) and "it disgusts me" (when there is nothing more biased and immature than believing the world turns around what you like).
@Viktor Petrov I have no need to read that book when there are many more interesting and informative books to read and when this one has been debunked as nothing but crap and fairy tales with no basis in real life or science, sociopath. Homosexuality is not wrong, your viciousness and homophobia are.
If we desire to know God and serve him forever we must first accept his gospel of salvation and Trust Jesus as our savior and King. If we do this with genuine sincerity and give our lives over to Jesus, we will receive his holy spirit. Jesus accepts anyone who puts their faith in him and follows him. Gay or Straight, if we don't accept Jesus as our savior and King and give our lives over to him, we are lost, we will die in our sins and be judged and condemned. Yet, if we truly desire to know God and we put our trust in Jesus, we will be judged but not condemned. When we are saved we receive the Holy Spirit and our desires begin to change, things that were important no longer matter as much and we discover new desires that are pleasing to our Heavenly Father.
@hydrate your soul A guy who read the bible. Also, that quote was not said by god. Someone, I believe it was Paul, . wrote that, simply put what he assumed to be sin. God nor jesus said anything on homosexuality.
I am catholic and my parents brought me up that it is wrong, But I think that you love who you love and everyone should be treated with respect no matter the sexuality of the man or woman. I have 6 bi friends and 2 gay friends and they are the nicest people I know and I would never change a thing about them.
No, the bible does not say simply being straight is a sin, if it does say that please tell me where. However there are plenty of sins associated with heterosexuality, such as lust, premarital sex, adultery, and incest. All of those sins pertain to heterosexuals and that is what straight people must avoid and deal with, just as homosexuals must deal with the sin of homosexuality. Simple as that.
LMAO , stop lying you lying piece of dirtbag . You just said you'd pray for them in your previous comment . You fucking wolves in sheeps clothing . You are trying too hard be a edgy homophobe who thinks hiding behind "biology" can save your christian ass . All the psychiatrists have already proved it's not a mental disorder . Unless you have a phd & you are scientist & you have years of research & proof , you don't get to say it's a disease .
Mark Vasquez. I have feelings for my neighbor. I know he's married. I don't care. I want him anyway. I don't care who gets hurt. I like what I see. I don't care what I destroy. God loves me and wants me happy.
Thank you John. I struggle with same-sex attractions but when I struggle I look to the cross and see Jesus hanging their makes me want to fight. If Jesus sacrifice his life for me to go to heaven then I can sacrifice this sinful lifestyle for him.
+MrNwmnmtt You are so wrong. You feel the way you were created by God.... Do not feel punished by the sectarian way of a few close minded christians....
+Orlando Peccora Amen Orlando. Apostates like Piper only cause misery and leave a trail of broken souls in their wake.MrNwmnmtt, There are many resources out their that easily refute John Piper and his damnable heresy.You aren't alone.
Paul is talking about Idolatry. The context of this have to do with Gentiles rejecting the true God to pursue false gods, idolatry and the sexual behavior deceive is orgiastic, not that of a loving caring relationship. What is condemned is the worship of false gods
I wonder why John doesn't spend more time condemning the profligate consumption of pork, unconscionable work and travel on the Sabbath, and shameless mixing of fabrics we see all around us?
By his following of that book all of us nurses should be stoned to death for working on Sabbath. Never mind that people would probably die if we didn't....
One has to understand Old Testament law. John Piper is speaking to an universal moral law. Please let me break it down for you to understand. First, There are three divisions of the Law in Leviticus. A common mistake made by homosexual proponents when discussing the Old Testament, in particular Leviticus, is the failure to understand the three main divisions of the Law: civil, ceremonial, and moral. This is important because the civil and ceremonial law are not in effect now, but the moral law is. Let's take a look at these divisions within the book of Leviticus since it is the book under examination. Civil - Expired with the demise of the Jewish civil government Justice practices (Lev. 24:17-23) Law of property redemption (Lev. 25) Be just with the poor, (Lev. 19:15) Do not hate in your heart (Lev. 19:17) Retain just scales in commerce (Lev. 19:35f) Robbery, extortion, false witness, and restitution (Lev. 6:1-7)
Then, there is Ceremonial Law Ceremonial Law - Expired with the fulfillment of priestly work of Christ (Matt. 3:15) Various sacrificial offerings for sin (Lev. 1,2,3,4,5,6) Priestly duties (Lev. 7:1-37) Laws on animals for food (Lev. 11:1-47) Cleaning house of leper (Lev. 14:33-57) Law of Atonement (Lev. 16:1-28;17:1-16) Regulations for Priests (Lev. 21,22) Festivals (Lev. 23:1-25)
Last, there is Moral Law which is universal and lasting. Moral - No Expiration because it is based on God's character. "You shall be holy, for I the Lord your God am holy," (Lev. 19:2) Do not steal or lie (Lev. 19:11) Do not oppress your neighbor (Lev. 19:13) No idolatry (Lev. 26:1-13) Don't sacrifice children to Molech (Lev. 20:1-5) Don't commit adultery, incest, bestiality, homosexuality, etc. (Lev. 20:9-21) You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Lev. 19:18)
Ok so I'm bi and I know it's wrong but sense I can't change the way I feel I ask God for forgiveness every day.I make sure to pray to him and ask him for forgiveness.😇
@King James Real life 2022 : if a man lies with another man it is no abomination and nothing is worth death you sociopathic piece of shit. You are the mentally ill, fanatic, oozing with shit and hatred. You are not human.
when i was 5 i insulted my family member for being gay, i then immediately regretted it, realizing it was disgusting and wrong to do that. the fact that full grown adults, that are supposed to be rational in thinking, can completely disregard and vilify someone's basic humanity. the fact that 13 year old's on the internet have a better understanding of basic human rights and equality, than a LOT of adults ranging from young to old is, simply put, embarrassing. not to mention the hypocrisy, the plain, simple, hypocrisy. what if you were attacked, harassed, bullied and even murdered, for being a man who loved a woman? a woman who loved a man? the bible is no excuse, the lack of procreation is no excuse, homosexuality has never hurt nor ever will. homosexuals, transexuals, bisexuals and everyone else in between, want one thing, to live their lives without all this unnecessary hate.
Best explanation ever! Reading Romans does speak about idolatry and pride that eventually gives one over to a reprobate mind and makes comparisons, thank you for sharing.
I disagree. The section about Sodom sounds like the soldiers intended to sexually assault the men depending on how you read it. Also at the time the bible was written the Greeks and Romans thought it was normal for a man to sexually assault a boy a sex slave. I reckon that is what it is talking about and not 2 adults in a monogamous relationship.
It may well be true as far as the Roman-Greek world is concerned Then he would probably have written it differently! It was clear that this book would be known worldwide and even be the best-selling book! The Holy Spirit would have let the apostle Paul write it that way if it had been so. Therefore, every negation is a deliberate disregard of God's commandments. 2 Timothy 4:3-4: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
It’s so simple. If a person doesn’t believe the Bible or agree that’s absolutely ok! But don’t verbally harm those of us that Love God and his word in its entirety.
Our people have shown ill will to anyone who was different. The old ways have truly tarnished people’s outlook on us Christians. Not only that but Christians as a whole. OuR people tarnished what we stood for all along. We don’t have the best track record throughout history. No offense or anything but you unknowingly seem like a hypocrite.
No one is perfect but, you come close when you follow Christ’s teaching the right way to improve your life and don’t over analyze everything to fit your own convenience.
"Fit your own convenience" Such an ironic statement about the bible because through out centuries, the Bible was used to justify murder, slavery, r*pe and domestic abuse... who is really trying to change it for their convenience, "Christians", or non believers?
@Deleted all my comments to not hurt your feelings One must also understand that, the bible is not reliable information. Even if there is a god, how can we know the bible is his words? Isn't it more logical to try and cause as less harm to others, than to follow a misinterpreted book? Surely god would prefer a good person over wrong interpretation
For any person that is truly struggling with this issue (I write this out of love for you as a brother in Christ), I would encourage you to begin thinking of homosexuality as a secondary issue. Every single argument that I see made by a gay person, being gay is the number one thing that defines them. You have first get over that hurdle and say first and foremost I am an adopted child of God and an image bearer of the living God - without sexuality being brought into the equation. Once we are able to do this, we can join Jesus in praying for God's will to be done and HIS kingdom come in the same way as it is in heaven! This means that by denying ourself, we are able to seek God's beautiful and perfect design for how we were created. Then by God's grace when we are able to see outside of ourselves, the holy spirit can begin loosening our grips on the things of this earth, because we have a promise of a new heaven and new earth WHERE SEXUALITY WILL NOT BE IN THE PICTURE. Once at this place we can say to the living God, "Ok. I don't get it, I don't understand why your word says homosexuality is wrong and why I struggle with it, BUT I will lay it aside for more of you." And you cannot get to this place unless you first deny yourself (your desires, needs, plans etc) and follow Jesus. If you have a closed hand around your sexuality, you will admitting that it is an idol and that Jesus is not your treasure. We need to lay aside EVERY SINGLE weight and sin which so EASILY entangles us, and look to Jesus. This debate brings about so much anger in people, and Satan uses this to entangle us and to have us focused on being right about this topic than the health of our souls. I encourage you to just pray and have a open hand with this issue. Don't be defined by your sexuality, but be defined by an adopted son/daughter of the living God.
It isn't that being gay is the primary identification for LGBT people, it's that when we're talking about this subject, we're focusing on it as a topic of conversation, which means we're prioritizing that aspect of our identity (gay or straight). It's just as easy to reverse: every time I hear a straight person talk about their sexuality, it's like being straight is the number one thing that defines them!
Sorry but your posting here is seriously confused. The Bible - as understood by conservative evangelicals - seeks an immeasurably greater sacrifice from lesbians and gay men than from straight people. Straight people are allowed to marry and have children as well as the companionship, company, warmth, sex, support and intimacy such a close and loving partnership brings. I am a Christian and I am 100% homosexual. I have never had a glimmer of sexual attraction or arousal with any of the thousands of women I have met in my life. Like your sexuality, brother, it just happened, and I certainly did not ask for it, I have now decided to take the Bible at face value and I am celibate and have been for almost a year. Some Christians say that, the more they give up for Christ, the more grace they experience. Not me, Jesus has given me no help in my sexuality over the past year. I am really underwhelmed, no, disappointed. The past year has brought for me: loneliness - I have lost a lot of friends isolation shockingly poor sleep patterns depression grieving conflict anger sexual frustration which has been intense at times pain and anguish embarrassment - people think you are really weird if you tell them mood swings so bad that I am being checked out to see if I have bipolar affective disorder bewilderment I bet you do not want to be celibate all your life. Almost no man does, brother. There is a myth perhaps that someone like me has 'the gift of celibacy'. I don't and the reality is just as bad as you think it would be for you, which is why everyone hates the idea of it. All the women at my work, brother, are on diets, All they talk about is food. Well, with celibacy, the thoughts of sex are more prevalent giving that I am completely doing without. Sorry this is so negative and 'in-your-face angry'. Something in your posting filled me with anger and I had to walk away from my laptop. I am sure you are a nice guy and you mean well but your comment comes across as crass and simplistic. I feel bad having a go at you and I am sorry for that and for venting my anger in this way. If this has upset and offended you in any way, let me know and I promise I will apologise in public to you here. David from the UK
David Kennedy I have to genuinely wonder why you'd choose to remain in the faith. I found that my life was immeasurably better when I took away from it what I knew to be right and moral (love thy neighbor as thyself, remove the plank from your own eye before the mote in your neighbor's, etc.) and let go of the rest. Having to rationalize one's existence against the execrable statements made by Paul and others stopped being an exercise worth doing.
snake oil , lunacy and your would-be Lord didn't voice your opinion. But keep on making yourself sound yet more absurd by dragging his name into it . Now you get undefined by your heterosexuality, dum dum, presuming you have it!?
I came here so that I may learn how to minister to friends and family that I know or others may know who want to know about Jesus, to better help them and myself understand. To touch every walk of life and let them know they have a Home waiting in Jesus.
Can you Biblically answer these two questions? Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning? This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@@craigd9896 we are all born into sin in this sinful world. If you read Genesis you would understand that. However it is through Jesus that we can get to the father.
@@K71421 Yes and what was Jesus all about - love. Love not for just some, but for all. Jesus that dark skinned, Jew, was sent here to teach love for all, not just some. All can be with God. Stop trying to make it hard, it is not. God is in everyone of us, not just some; and God loves everyone the same...no exception, none. FYI- your idea of being born with sin, is man made, not God made as you were born in His image
@@craigd9896 Do you not remember the fall of humanity? Jesus is the way to the father and the body is the temple for the holy spirit. We were bought at a price and must honor our creator with our body and not defile it. Love everyone in Christ including your enemies. I believe with Jesus in your heart and you being on fire for God will keep you functioning how God designed us, a man and woman will become one flesh as God created it to be. Love all creatures in Christ, but that does not mean Love All Creatures sexually or all people sexually or all genders sexually. It just means love everyone through Christ Jesus in wholesome heart just like the father so loved us that he gave us his only Son to pay the price for our sins.
Um - the Bible does not say homosexuality is wrong, nor does the original text of the Bible say homosexuality is a sin. Nor did Jesus Christ (God on earth) say 1 word about homosexuality. This man is flat out wrong.
+manualLaborer I like how Christians will yell and scream that you are wrong and they are right. But their only response to good points like yours are, "Because the Bible said so,"
Matthew 22.40. God's commands boil down to 1 showing God respect, trust and gratitude and 2 doing good and not hurting other people. It has nothing to do with your orientation and who you do or do not have the capacity to love.
I'm being accused by +Issac Jones not answering his questions. For those of you that know me, I LOVE to answer questions, as long as you answer mine as well. The deal was that if he answered one of mine first I would answer 14 OF HIS! He refused to answer the question in a way that truly gave an honest answer. I asked him for a biological definition of a human male. This was his answer """Man: One whose head is Christ, one who is obedient to God's Commandments and is a descendant of Adam. Woman: One whose head is the man, one who is suppose to be submissive and to the man and keeps God's Commandments also, descendant of Eve." That would be like me asking him what kind of gas he puts in his car and he reads me a recipe out of a cook book!
““ ‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’” Acts 2:17-21 NIV
This one really puts the fear in me... I cant believe what awful lies I believed...I just read romans 1. Please Pray for me To be a better man. And to be a better example. And to Start reading my bible. God Bless
The fact that you have fear and are gullible enough to belive in this shit shows me why people like you are homophobic. Wake up, and think for yourself. Why isn't he praising slavery? The bible is all for it.... Why is he picking and choosing homosexuality? That word wasn't even put into the bible until 1946. Don't believe everything you hear from these sick people.
This is something I've struggled with. We now know that there are a lot of factors that are involved with homosexual tendencies, and it is found all throughout nature. It's just part of life itself homosexuality is found in humans and a lot of other animals. Being heterosexual you can't help but feel the way you do and it's exactly the same for homosexuality as well. Back when the bible was documented and written they didn't know this stuff. The religious will argue that God made us and gave us free will, and in their conclusion, homosexuality is a choice however we now know that it isn't. So, therefore God made us this way and the conclusion is, it's perfectly fine to be gay just as it's perfectly fine to be straight. Basically, modern problems require modern solutions and to use the bible seems counterintuitive however if you do then you must admit the former and not only that also admit that it was God that set evolution into action. By doing this you dig yourself deeper and deeper into what is true about the bible and what isn't.
Which Bible is Piper using? Malakoi In 44 Translations The Apostle Paul - AD 55 - Greek - malakoi Bible - year published - translation Wycliffe - 1380 - neische Wycliffe - 1388 - letchouris ayen kinde Tyndale - 1526 - weaklinges Martin Luther - 1534 - weichlinge Coverdale - 1535 - weaklinges Matthews - 1537 - weaklinges Great Bible - 1539 - weaklynges Swedish Version - 1541 - weaklingar Geneva Bible - 1560 - wantons Bishops Bible - 1568 - weaklinges Valera Spanish - 1602 - effeminados Rheims-Douay - 1609 - effeminat King James Version - 1611 - effeminate Portuguese - 1690 - efeminados Daniel Mace New Testament - 1729 - the effeminate Darby - 1884 - those who make women of themselves Darby French - 1885 - effemines Young’s Literal - 1898 - effeminate ASV - 1901 - effeminate Weymouth - 1903 - any who are guilty of unnatural crime Louis Segund French - 1910 - effemines Moffat - 1913 - catamites (boys who have sex with men) Lamsa Translation - 1933 - men who lie down with males New American - 1941 - sodomites Revised Standard - 1952 - sexual perverts Amplified - 1958 - those who participate in homosexuality NASB - 1963 - effeminate New American Bible - 1970 - boy prostitutes New English - 1970 - guilty of homosexual perversion NIV - 1973 - male prostitutes NKJV - 1979 - homosexuals JW-NWT - 1984 - men kept for unnatural purposes New Century - 1987 - male prostitutes Green’s Interlinear - 1986 - abusers NRSV - 1989 - male prostitutes Bible In Basic English - 1994 - one who is less than a man CEV - 1995 - pervert NLT - 1996 - male prostitute Complete Jewish Bible - 1998 - active or passive homosexuality International Standard Version - 2000 - male prostitutes The Message - 2002 - those who use and abuse each other World English Bible - 2005 - male prostitutes God’s Word Translation - 2006 - homosexuals The NET Bible - 2006 - passive homosexual partners
@@andypandy7769 Do you have proof Apostle Paul wrote anything? NO! So you picked and choose the King James version. Are yoiu saying people who read other bibles are going to hell? All educated people - you are very pompous. And nothing you said changes the fact - homosexuality is not a sin
I’m a Christian but what saddened me was when one time during the Sunday service the pastor said that even if a good person was born into this world and lived a good life - didn’t do anything gravely wrong but was not able to know God - let’s say he was born in a place where they aren’t really practicing religion; the point is it wasn’t his conscious decision to not believe in a God he was just not given an opportunity to - then he said he won’t go to Heaven and go to hell. like that’s just sad.. that’s why sometimes I like to believe there is a God but I don’t believe in religion. I’m also bi and i couldn’t understand how something so pure is a sin? murder and stealing is wrong but love? how is that wrong. i have a same sex partner for 5 years now and i can say our relationship is healthier and happier than other heteros out there
@Κύκλωπας Our homosexual relationships are love. You saying it's bad because god apparently said so, just isn't gonna cut it. I simply don't agree with your god. You and god have failed to give actual reasons on why it's bad.
@Кремль There is love in gay relationships, otherwise gay couples would not marry in the countries where they can, douche bag. God does not exist and you do not decide how we can use our bodies. You do not live in reality. You are against it. You gave virtually no argument to anything you have ever said. None.
idk if i'm late but God is fair in His judgment and can be seen in Romans 2 so what the pastor at your church said was wrong, it depends on how much the person knows about God and the truth. if a person was not given the opportunity to know the truth then God will judge without His law. I've asked a former elder in our church about it and he has told me God judges based on what we know and how much knowledge we have of Him
I agree 100% it’s annoying to see people who don’t believe in the Bible, they only believe in what they see. They don’t care about what the consequences . I couldn’t have said it better myself. Thank you kindly for your video. Amen 😊
it did, before someone changed it. 1timothy1.10 the greek word being translated is arsenal coitus which has been translated as pedophilia. 1534 German translation of Lev1822 uses the word knabenschänder. knaben for boy, and schänder for molester. 1674 Swedish and 1830 Norwegian translations of Lev1822 are the same. "18 years of age" was changed to "8 days after birth".
my comments are disappearing because someone doesn't want people to know the truth. "homosexual" did not appear in any bible until 1946. 1534 German translation of Lev1822 uses the word knabenschänder. knaben for boy, and schänder for molester. 1674 Swedish and 1830 Norwegian translations are the same.
@@juzeus9 That's right. no one knows what that word meant From what we know from history, most victims were boys. So that was the simplest way of expressing back then. Of course the modern term "homoxesual" is incorrect for multiple reasons. "boy mole-star" is closer but inaccurate. The meaning has been lost and there are only conjectures, but I would say deriving pleasure by dominating and denigrating a victim by means of secs penetration. I would translate it as "secs abuzer". It's probably too broad, but it conveys the point better.
@@MusicalRaichu the Leningrad Codex is the oldest complete manuscript of the Old Testament 1008 AD, written in ancient Hebrew, and the source texts for all modern 'interpretations' and 'mistranslations' of the Old Testament. Leningrad Codex "If there is a man who lies with a male IN HIS WIFE'S BED" ie ADULTERY... Lev1822 original Hebrew: “And with a male you shall lie down the lyings of a woman". Genesis 49:4 depicts “lyings” as INCEST, of Reuben who slept with his father's concubine... both instances have something to do with family relationships.. homosexuality was never a sin. god makes gays to care for orphans
I believe god will welcome us in to heaven and wash away all our sins. No matter if your gay or straight or if you kill someone. God will forgive us if we repent.🙏🏽
Yes that's true but that's only if we repent here on Earth. If someone lives in their sin even till death refusing to turn away from it they won't get into heaven. People who insist on keeping their sin will simply get what they chose but those who were seeking God and left their sin behind we'll get to live with God in heaven. The reason Heaven is so much better than Earth is because there's no sin in heaven. Earth even used to be like it until we sinned. But to summarize if you repent (which means turn away from sin) you'll be forgiven and washed clean but if you continue living in the sin till you die, you're going to bare the consequences. If you didn't choose God down here then He's not going to allow you up there.
Just ask for forgiveness and never do it again. If you end up doing it again, then it’s okay just keep asking for forgiveness and try your best to stop it. As long you’re not doing it all on purpose
@Кремль Love comes from real people and some other species like dogs. God does not exist. You cannot use your god as an excuse to vomit your hatred. You do not decide what abuse is. You are pure evil and hate yourself.
@Кремль God does not exist whether you like it or not you vicious fanatic. Love comes from PEOPLE. I roast you now by having all your comments deleted.
@Кремль how did you come to conclusion that gay people abuse their bodies with eachother and that they have a vile behavior, its just 2 people who love eachother idiot!
How can people say that Jesus never addressed homosexuality? “For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: these are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man” (Matthew 15:19-20). In these verses, Jesus lists some sins that defile people, among which is fornication. Fornication is any sexual activity that does not consist within scriptural marriage. Hence, homosexuality is fornication, and thus Jesus Christ condemns it. “But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh” (Mark 10:6-8). Here Jesus explains the natural order that God made in Genesis: “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh” (Genesis 2:24). God designed men to be married to women, and women to men. Sodomy between two men is therefore a perversion of nature, an abomination in God’s sight. In Romans 1:26, Paul condemns changing “the natural use into that which is against nature.”
@Boris you Sir are to love your neighbor - did you not listen to what Jesus Christ taught. What you posted is judgement and get you hell in your future....good luck
@Boris Just about everything is about loving your neighbor. So even you seem to forget what Jesus Christ taught. The problem is you do not post the truth, you post verses totally out of context and therefore judge someone is sinning. It is not I that needs help - look in the mirror. Ask Jesus Christ to help you with truth.
@Boris The Bible is crap. There is no reason to « prohibit homosexuality » which is extremely delusional to even think about. You cannot forbide us from being gay and dating the other gender. Only fanatics and terrorists think they can.
@Boris Why do you hide from answering questions about Leviticus, your brought up what Jesus Christ put to rest saying; some is still in effect...and you pick and choose, and you judge based on that. All the while homosexuality is not a sin. Answer the questions: 1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence. 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination? 7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here? 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? 9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
@@Nonalhomophobie how exactly am I homophobic and violent ? and you claiming I am is false accusation, calling names and lying about another have you thought of that ? you dont have to agree that is your freedom of choice but you are and have gone on other sites accusing people and calling them names because they don't agree with you why do you agree with everyone obviously not so why call someone names because they believe that God's word says homosexuality is a sin if you dont you dont...
5:26 he’s pretty much saying someone who is homosexual, has the same sexual struggles as a heterosexual. Then he goes on to say that someone who is homosexual can either rewire themselves into being heterosexual or not be in a homosexual relationship meaning they can’t have an intimate relationship. This makes me very upset and angry. As a lesbian, born in a highly influential Christian family with an immense amount of pressure to be straight, I know I can’t change to be heterosexual. I also know I just can’t live my whole life without love.
It’s definitely not the “truth” making me angry; it’s this opinion on homosexuality. I said my sexuality to say first hand that I know you can’t change who you love. And by living without love, I mean living without a significant other/partner/lover not a relationship with God. Also to be clear being gay won’t send me to hell, not being a Christian will (Ephesians 2:8). Like I said I grew up in a Christian home so I know my stuff. I’ve literally heard every argument there is against homosexuality and still, personally, I believe it’s definitely not wrong.
@Kosher If being gay or lesbian it’s a sin and it needs to be changed then why would God permit such people to be. Personally being raised on Christianity and also loving God with all my heart for many years and never being called out or “changed” because of my sexuality. Don’t send the wrong message to people and judge them by the bibble without knowing what God is doing or thinks. The bibble doesn’t specify details of LGBT because at that time it wasn’t known (the times of when it was written) and also because there isn’t an exact explanation for it. It’s all based on interpretation. God knows the heart and knows every single person. The sin will lie when you are not being honest with who you are and what you feel. You can’t force people into changing who they are. God will if he wants to once we ask him to, and trust me if there is no change then God is the one judging not us.
@Kosher So.... could straight people be rewired to be homosexuals ? From thousands of experiments with failed conversion therapy, you've got to admit that it's not possible to change someone's sexual orientation, even when you, homophobes, invoke god's power and make them reborn as Christians. Do you praise asexuality then? Do you know they're part of the LGBTQ+ community aswell? And why do you feel the need to tell people you're straight? Why do you walk in the street holding hands with someone from the opposite sex? Why do you talk about your wife/husband when you discuss with coworkers? Because it's part of your identity. Don't use your religion to hate people. Love thy neighbor.
The reason people have a problem with the Bible condemning homosexual is because they dont want to stop but they knownits wrong. God forgives and one day we all have to make a choice heaven or hell
as an antisocial person i know what they feel to be hated just because you aren't " normal " still, i'll never force people to accept me cause i don't want to be forced too really sorry for my broken english lol
Our concept of normality doesn't exist outside our heads. They think they know what's right and wrong but in the end, it's purely subjectice. Only you know how and what you want to be, not a god, not your parent and especially some radical christians on youtube. If you love yourself how you are then that's how you should be and if you have something you don't like about yourself then change it. And if you can't change it then you can at least try to make the best out of it. It doesn't matter who a fictional Sky Daddy wants you to be. It only matters who YOU want to be.
We are made in Gods image. He created some of us to be gay, so there could be diversity and Beauty among society. If God did not want gays on Earth he wouldn't have created gays. God loves us all he put us here for a reason. Maybe it's to stand up for gay rights or create equality. Eventually we will have the same rights as all other humans. And when we do, we will find another minority and stand up for them. So eventually the world will be at peace. God accepts everyone.
I will say that your right when Jesus tells me in person that love is a sin. Jesus will have to tell me on Earth and tell me why it happens. You are spreading negative energy, offending gays when you should be happy and telling them that they will enter the Kingdom Of God.
Arcadia Society God did not create anyone gay God create humans. And that is not the purpose of Our Lives... Jehovah did not intend for this world to be like this and he did not intend for humans to be with the same sex in the Bible it says God created man for a woman and a woman for a man... the Bible is all inspired by God himself so therefore you are lying to yourself and to others... because God obviously did not intend for gayness to be a thing... God created Eve for Adam Jehovah gave her to him and told them to fill the Earth so if it were God's intention for gay people to even exist he would have given Adam a man ... and told them to reproduce and fill the Earth( God did not)case closed
Arcadia Society and you cannot call yourself a Christian if you are doing something that the Bible obviously says you don't do...and you act as if it is right in God's eyes... You are slandering Jehovah's name because God said gayness was an abomination and detestable to him..... in the Bible it says hate what Jehovah hates and love what Jehovah loves... So if you think gayness is okay and you are lying and saying Jehovah thinks it's okay then you cannot call yourself a Christian... because the Bible says gayness is detestable to him... So who are you to say otherwise and yet call yourself a Christian?
@@stareyes453 OK, Shakira, big question I really want to have answered: Is God a "watchmaker", who did not intend for the world to be like this, and did not intend for Gayness to be a thing, and hasn't done anything about it... Or is God "always present" in our lives, and will help us if we just pray to him, and can move mountains. Like, why make certain (completely random) parts of the population more tempted to sin? That seems unfair.
Of course you can say you will deal with this brokenness so easily. But for us, it is difficult. Lifelong. Dont say easily you will deal with it. You know nothing
Remember. Every person has struggles. Heterosexuals and homosexuals. Heterosexuals can suffer from lust and sexual immorality. Everyone struggles with something. Nobody is alone or different in such a way.
Our Savior Jesus Christ please guide me right. This blasphemous sin has corrupted me and alienated me from God. I hope to become a pure and good person again like when I was a boy. Deliver me from the pit of iniquity. Help me to be a good Christian.
@@socktier6334 Well homosexuality is not only a trait that is found in humans, there are many examples of it happening in nature with animals. Also your argument is flawed, reproduction and sexuality even when they go hand in hand are two different things. And I brought up the example of homosexuality in animals as Im predicting your argument about how is something to do with lust and perversion. Animals are not driven but lust yet there are interactions with members of the same sex. If something that happens in nature is not by definition natural then I dont know what it is.
Morthan Gaming, Infanticide is quite common in the animal kingdom, does that justify it or make it natural among humans? Also the two main reasons animals engage in homosexual acts is to assert dominance or to fulfill their own needs. It hardly out of love. Animals also lack the intelligence of us humans. Humans reproduce sexually, this requires a male and a female. Sex was clearly designed to be between a male and a female.
@@whyusodumb2954 Both of them are natural occurrences yes, if you want to take it like that. However, what you are trying do here is flawed. You are trying to compare sexual orientation with infanticide to make a point of them being "irrational" behaviours. Guess what? Being gay does not hurt people. There are plenty of gay couples with kids that treat them better and are happier than their straight counterparts. So yeah good try.
your ontology is not the only one.This is why religion has the freedom to practice it's beliefs but not to establish those beliefs as laws for others in the USA. What you are doing Mr.Piper is speaking in defense of a caste system that sees itself as "The-Truth"...fine...you have the freedom to believe & practice those beliefs...& i have the freedom of speech to believe other than do you..
I’ve been struggling with the thoughts of is it a sin or not and feel very conflicted by this topic because I’m pretty sure the Bible definitely brings it up just doesn’t use the terms we use now. The thing is that I have a really close cousin who loves God and her relationship with God kinda inspires me to stop being lazy and procrastinating and grow that relationship with Him. However, she’s in a lesbian relationship, I really enjoy spending time with them both and really like her partner, she’s a real cool person and my cousin even has them read their Bible together pray, and just having God in the relationship so that really made me second guess what I’ve been told and somewhat of my beliefs. I just feel very stuck about it
@@craigd9896 Leviticus 20:13 "If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense." Leviticus 18:22 "Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin."
@@gravity4467 How many times do I need to educate people on Leviticus as they just pick and choose. 1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence. 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination? 7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here? 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? 9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging
Jesus healed on the Sabbath, pissing off the Pharisees, the rule following hypocrites. Who's to say he wouldn't allow same sex relationships under the right terms?
@Nick4578 John 3.16 tells us who will enter heaven and guess what it has nothing to do with who people happen to be naturally attracted to. And John 15.17 tells us the only commandment we have to obey. Again, nothing to do with your secsual orientation.
I am so confused this video is just causing so much hate between Christians and homosexuals why can’t we all just love each other and except our differences I am a Christian and I am not homophobic I just wanted everyone to just live in harmony and not argue which side is right god said to love one another and that is what we should do not hate one another because of our sexuality , race or gender.I just wish for a world were everyone can truly co exist in harmony.
Nothing honest, humble, patient or understanding about that bigot. He didn't speak the truth or any kind of truth, just hateful lies against a minority.
doesn't change the fact that he's wrong. it's amazing that these people who do this for a living know less about the bible than a week's worth of research. the bible has been altered
@@juzeus9 Every human being has the right to be wrong. In exercising that right they are not at fault. Nobody needs to tell me about the faults of other people. I can see them every time I take my eyes off my own.
@@juzeus9 I feel you have enough intelligence to understand that every human being has the right to be wrong. Right, as in, 'Human Right or natural privilege.' However, I could be wrong.
Those who condemn God's homosexual children, are condemning God's creation; and thus they are also condemning God. And that is nothing short of blasphemy? As a Chrisian, I am sorry for the narrow-minded, judgmental, deceptive, manipulative, actions of those who denied rights & equity to so many in the Name of God. Following Jesus does necessarily mean you convert to Christianity or join any particular version of that faith but it does mean you take a Jesus perspective of your neighbors and align your behavior to emulate what he taught. He did not teach theology or dogma. He did teach a lot of very good parables, he taught rebellion in a sense against the religious power brokers of his day, but mainly he taught LOVE & FORGIVENESS for all. Then think about this: Does it make sense to you, that an Omniscient Omnipotent Being would decide to reveal Himself and His Message to a highly superstitious people who were over 90% illiterate, in confusing stories made by fallible men over a span of almost 1000 years, to be compiled in a book, that they could not even read, restricted to 3 languages they could not speak for hundreds of years, and which even the believers of the Book have been arguing, fighting and even killing each other for, over interpretations, for thousands of years? That is how God would communicate you say? Again, what did Jesus teach - mainly he taught LOVE & FORGIVENESS for all. Additional; the books that are included in the Bible were decided upon at the Council of Nicea in 525 AD,a group of old men who could read. At this same council, a vote was cast to determine the divinity of Jesus Christ. His divinity won out by a close margin.
I love how people cherry pick which parts of the Bible say "no gay" and ignore that the context is within idolatry or gang rape or adultery or something. God made me gay and I'm proud of it, God loves me the way I am and I will honor Him with my marriage whether it's to a man or a woman. I AM NOT BROKEN. GOD DOESNT MAKE MISTAKES.
But wouldn't you say that you're cherry-picking as well? Even if someone else is doing something wrong and cherry picking does not mean it's okay for you to do. Not trying to be disrespectful or anything.
What annoys me the most, is that you come on here typing away thinking you know it all, when clearly you haven't even read one bloody page of that book!
@@ProjectCreativityGuy96 I don't really need to justify myself to you, but for any other young gay Christians who stumble across this: I have been saved for most of my life and have studied the Bible for years. The only part where God directly says "no gay" is in Leviticus, where He was establishing the Jewish law, and then Jesus said He was the fulfillment of the law and the old law was null and void. My point is that a lot of Christians cherry pick the rulebook part of the Bible, ignoring that it was written for a very different culture more than two thousand years ago, and then ignore the whole love and acceptance part which HAS to be more important.
Do you think I could get your email or discord to ask about this and the bible? I have alot of questions about god and the bible from your perspective.
@@taylorthomas2852 She came off a bit mean, a bit uncalled for. dont think the whole community is like that, though. Its important to not marginalize a whole group on one's actions.
@@rosiepie8213 You can follow your religion, and not be homophobic. Those are not mutually exclusive. Did you know there are gay Muslims for instance ?
are you really this stupid? youre comparing a fictional being with real people? im sure youre one of those idiots who are gonna say that they dont believe that my boyfriend exists just because they havent seen him. do you understand that that make your god claims even more retarded? do you understand that you have even less reason to believe in god? we have records that prove that they existed. god has the bible and its contradictions and factual errors. you cant possibly be serious.MarlowDub116
dayweed85 immaturity at its finest, i called you no names and you try and go off. You can attest to the assistance of your boyfriend. hold on, you said "we have records that prove they existed." we have over 9,000 manuscripts that say that the people of the bible existed and the writing of Josephus, St. Agustin and many more philosophers. List your contradictions and i bet you i can refute each one of them. The bible has no contradictions if kept in context.
@@wickedness_666 u should be avoiding the devils. They want YOU to stay away from God and u don't even know a lot about Him. God loves you and you should know more about Him than what u already know. It's between u and Him that u need to build that relationship. God is good, all the time!!
@@moanapooh9726 God, and I are good. We take shots, and drink beer on occasions. He's a cool dude to kick it with. All I'm saying is, he needs to not stare into anyone's soul, especially young girls, because that's unacceptable. He knows better than to do that. If that's the case, then he shall be facing rape charges. If God's like that, please stay away from him. Stay away from disgusting child predators, and rapists. Those fuckers deserve eternal hell. Always, run away from those morons reguardless. Fuck rapists! They deserve life behind bars!
@@wickedness_666 Yeah true but we should stay away from evil but doing something back to them with evil won't change the fact they'll stop being evil. We should stay away from EVIL, bc anyone can be a rapist, so we should be aware and do better to help someone keep out of that:) And no one deserves hell, bc we all can change and we All can be evil and we chose to or not but God would show us the way to understand where is better to go. He has many plans for us...If you need help getting better to know God, just go to a quiet place and pray to Jesus and say, " Jesus come inside my heart" and let it sync in. Just only think about God and his grace when u pray to him. God bless!😙
Non à l'homophobie ah thats noble cause for sure - Christians arent homophobic though so I think you’re in the wrong place 😅 we love homosexuals and all people - we just believe its wrong cos the Bible says so, if you have a problem with that, take it up with God - we dnt make the rules! 😂
My friend snitches on me because i said you cant be gay and it says that in the bible and he got angry on me but i dont care because i love god and my bestfriends say that om right
Hello siblings First of all, I'm Greek Orthodox. Second, the Orthodox church in Greece condemns homosexuality and that infuriates me the most. I tried to support those people and make them have a different image of God and His church because some do tell me awful things about Him....In this video I was a bit more confused..... If anyone's homosexual and doesn't give up to lustful things, is he going to be saved or punished? I really do try to tell them that God accepts them the way they are and that they're not going to burn..... Edit: I take back what I typed and may all homosexuals return to the loving hug of Orthodoxy, amen ☦️
Honesexuality like premarital sex and other non married monogamous sexual acts is against church doctrine and what is said in the Bible. For example while it’s natural for a straight person to lust afters multiple people of the opposite sex it’s forbidden in the Bible. Homosexuality specific may homosexual lust or partnership is against the Bible just like other non monogamous marital sexual activity.
@@TheAmericanCatholic how about homosexual love? do you think all homosexuals do is engage in sexual acts? 🙄 for your information and future reference, we love our partners and we see them as persons and not just objects to gratify us sexually.. we form emotional attachment and bond with each other, we share moments together, we fight, we cry, we make up and care for each other's well-being, in short, we love each other dear ♥️🌈 it's beautiful and don't say otherwise or say that it is just lust or sexual acts.. I hope all of you realize that and be enlightened. 😌
@@terminusadquem6981 Live how you are going to live the Bible is still against homosexuality. If your not a Christian that’s fine. But if you are a Christian the Bible is against homosexuality and many other things
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@@Nonalhomophobie I just did 😊
@@cloversp3512 Good, now everybody knows you are a fanatic ignoramus.
These people have been arguing for years in this comment section lmfao 💀💀
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it's really sad actually
but also very funny lol
It's funny
Its sad honestly. The fact that no one has come to a compromise where everyone can just live their lives i mean
I am not a christian but the fact is that you can not change any religion according to your own wishes
@@raulantunez4228 So, does that mean they mistranslated killing in the bible? Or you just want to hear what you want to hear? If you don't want to be a christian, then you're not one dw.
well whoopie woop. And what's that got to do with this vid???
@@raulantunez4228 youre not christian if you would throw it away just because youre a sinner
@@raulantunez4228 this guy really said there are multiple theories that say it's misinterpreted but still fighting when it's clearly wrong lmao. You can't just change a point in bible, don't worry ur still a sinner like it or not.
Religion is a PRIVATE matter. Don't shove it in other's troth. Gay is just fine. get over it and stop hating.
most of the people who commented didn't even watch the video
I didn't watch the video.. nor need to
100,000 subs with no vids ikr? It is like most of the recent commenters here are just trolling.
I sub to u !
No matter what kind of video it is, you should still watch the video.
The truth we made god before we made him it's chemistry we don't know what lies before we close our eyes for ever if it's eternal darkness and we leave the pain for our loved ones, why should we judge what we create
I'm broken as well. Please pray for me. I really love Jesus, and I really need him in my life. I'm asking God to send me some help from heaven.
we were all broken we all sinned but we are always forgiven by the Lord himself I'm catholic actually and hope you're also christian
We are ALL broken, and we all deserve to go to Hell. Thankfully the Lord Jesus Christ has given us a way out, he paid our punishment with his blood on the cross. Seek out the Lord Jesus Christ, admit to him that you are a Sinner in need of salvation. Confess your sins and then repent. Ask Jesus to give you a new heart. He loves us very much, if he was willing to pay the punishment for what we have all done...
@@Biggerisgoood Being gay is nothing to confess and nothing to punish.
@@Biggerisgoood YOU HAVE BROKEN THE RULES NOW ITS TIME FOR YOU TO GO TO H*LL
@@Nonalhomophobie It is against God.
i feel like my mom controls my recommendations
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Look up cross examined
@Pisteuo Boi look up cross examined
My point is, you can argue over every sin.
God can handle this his own way. Love each other, and let god handle the rest
Yes, but we can't condone abominations either. We can love them, but we can't lie to them.
@@JaakkoJohannes Your stupidity is the abomination.
@Tony Droid How old are you ? Four ?
@Tony Droid Go back to your school lessons, kiddo.
If you see your mother being being atacked do you just stare and do nothing and wait the police to "handle it" and do their work?
God works through us.
Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's views and trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and everyone's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say.
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@Ричард it's a joke dum dum
can someone make another version of this? its funny lol
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I completely agree
Since I was 5 years old I sought God. Couldn’t read, didn’t understand the deep stuff. But I saw how my parents loved God and I wanted in. I remember being so honest at 5 years old, I poured everything out: every fear, every frustration. But my relationship with God became an unending conversation. People must have thought I was schizophrenic lol.
In this type of relationship with God, I was so caught up in seeking His will and his direction, that I didn’t even think about sexual attractions until after highschool. Funny enough, it wasn’t until I was exposed more and more to the world that my God time began to be divided smaller and smaller.
I made choices I regret but I think God held onto me and reminded me of his faithfulness to me for all those years. He has now blessed me with a wife who also loves Him and 2 beautiful children:)
All that to say, truly fix your eyes on him, and let him form your desires. If you fix your eyes on the world or even yourself, you will be led astray. Whether it’s being gay, or heterosexuals addicted to porn. None of it is godly. He’s the answer. It’s really that simple.
My main point here is: Many claim, that homosexuality like we know it today didnt exist back then and therefore everything the bible says against it is just wrong interpreted. But that claim is false as you cant just take the worldly views of your time and age and interpret everything into the bible, so that it fits modern Agenda. All i had to read about it was Romans 1. It describes what is happening today very well. The created today is more important for himself than the creator and everything else has to fit the createds sinful needs and desires, otherwise he and thw world will hate and abandon it.
@@haselstrauch1688 Homosexuality is NOT a sinful need or desire !
@@Petrovvvv It is not according to reality, which disproves the Bible, vicious sociopath and psychopath.
Exactly! If you follow the world the world would lead you astray because it’s full of sin. And the world is leading us further and further away. The evil knows what it’s doing because they don’t want everyone to build a relationship with God or Jesus. That’s why people need to wake up before it’s too late.
@@SaucyCow19 Being gay is NOT a sin. And given the damage religion has done over the centuries it is good we are getting away from it. YOU need to wake up, you are delusional, demons do not exist.
“And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.”
@Enrique Irau Lagunas Perez can guys stop liking guys? its wrong asf
@@yonggeun4222 I mean some people just can't control themselves.
Hail satan
@@sav5296 Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit so that we can be guided. We have to kill the flesh, praying and fasting is a way to do this.
@@crystalwyrm4767 oh.
Psalm 78:32
*In spite of all this they still sinned*
*And did not believe in His wonderful works.*
Whose work ?
Non à I’homophobie,
Well considering “His” is capitalized we can safely assume it is God.
Again : who ? One should prove God exists first before mentioning "His" work.
Non à I’homophobie,
I told you the “who.”
@@Nonalhomophobie Reminder: You CANNOT prove God does not exist. There’s no evidence to disprove His existence. So don’t tell believers to “prove” He exists when you cannot prove He doesn’t. :) Thanks
“We love because he first loved us. Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister.”
1 John 4:19-21 NIV
thats anyone, no matter their sex or sexuality .
@David Vanpatten I agree, and homosexuality is not a sin, nor is bi sexuality or heterosexuality. Thats the problem making something a sin when it is not.
We don't need to love someone who is the supposed reason we must all die one day. He knew Adam and Eve would eat the fruit, yet he still set them up for failure and then blamed us, children of the sinners for something we had no part in.
God does not love us, he just wants to control us and that's what the bible depicts. So I'd rather be happy than live a sad life to please a psychopathic fairy tale
@@ganymede8257 God has let you live up to this day, he has given man so many chances, he even let his son die on the cross for our sins, the devil wants you to believe that god isn’t real or he doesn’t love you, he is trying harder to get people to stop following God, why do you think he doesn’t love when he has done so much for you.
@@crystalwyrm4767 I don't think someone loves me when the only confirmation I have for his existence is a 7000 thousand year old, mistranslated and factually incorrect book. He had 7000 years to give us a reason to believe in him, but he never did.
Not only that, but his supporters are the biggest reason I was driven away from the religion. At this point, if he wants to blame me for staying away from Christianity he is nothing but a false idol
To the people who think that being gay is a choice, does that mean when you were young you could have chosen to be gay if you wanted to? If you answer no to that question, why would you think that someone else could or would choose to be gay? I honestly don't know why I am gay, but I do know that it had nothing to do with how my parents raised me. I was nowhere near a "momma's boy". I was actually much closer to my dad and spent more time with him than I did with my mom, and he treated me just like any "normaI" dad would treat his son. I was raised exactly the same way and in the same house as my older brother, who turned out to be straight. And I was never sexually abused when I was a kid. I never even knew anyone who was gay until I was 17. Nothing about my childhood was abnormal or out of the ordinary. If it were as easy as just being a choice, I would have chosen to be straight a long time ago, because the discrimination and hatred that many gay people face has tormented me for most of my life. Because of that, I still haven't accepted myself for being gay, unfortunately, from the time I knew that I was different from other boys when I was around 8-9 years old, all the way up until today. I thank God that there are caring people out there who support and understand the LGBTQ community.
@@Checkpoint73 didn't you frickin read the comment dude
Well sorry to burst your bubble, but repent and ask God for forgiveness and the wisdom and vision to see the truth. Trust me, after that things will get better for you! Good luck.
@@nathandiaz6951 Nathan, don't worry, you didn't burst my bubble. Thank you for the kind words and advice, I really do appreciate your concern, but what I left out of my original comment above is that I have been a faithful, devout Christian for most of my life. I have done all of the things that you suggested I do, many, many times, for a very long time. When I was just 11, I started praying and pleading to God for forgiveness and to deliver me from the same sex attractions I had always felt. When I turned 16 and was able to drive, I started going to church every Sunday. I learned I had to seek salvation in Christ through repentance and faith, and I wholeheartedly accepted Jesus as my personal savior. I'm now almost 40 years old, so unfortunately, I have been waiting a very long time for my prayers to be answered...So now, instead of continuing to wait for something to happen and being constantly disappointed, I think the best thing I could do for myself is to start working on accepting myself for who and what I am, and to try to come to terms with the fact that I will always be gay. I don't think I will ever be able to like being gay, but I guess I can accept it as it is. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop praying, as prayer is one of the keys to living the principle of repentance each day. The Lord told us we are to offer a broken heart and a contrite spirit, and that takes humility. God bless my friend.
@@paint428 they must have deleted the comment you replied to....just curious, do you remember what they said? Thanks 🙂
Hello Friend. you will not be able to remove your attraction to men, because it refers to your body, not your mind. All you can do is just control it. The Lord said through the Apostle Paul: the male-bearers will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
I am bisexual, of course, I have no idea what I would do if I had your body - because you are not attracted to women, that is, you have no godly substitute to satisfy your instinct. I try to nip in the bud the homosexual thoughts that sometimes come to me, because I understand that this is wrong and unnatural. If this is not the case, then in the end, not everything revolves around sex! In a kind and friendly way, I advise you to forget about sex, identifications, orientations altogether. this is all unnecessary nonsense! There is art, cultures of different peoples, technologies, literature - that's what you need to spend time on!
Most likely, God did not give you a craving for a woman so that you devote yourself to creative self-realization! this is a higher goal than procreation. All the best to you, sir. I hope I expressed a useful thought for you.
the like and dislike ratio makes me sad tbh
Which one are you with disliked or liked
why im quite happy with it.more likes is great.
general viewer I’m glad there’s more likes, but the fact that the amount of dislikes compared to the amount of likes is very similar makes me sad ;-;
@@nommingmochi thats all will get in this world. be glad that at least the likes are similar.dont complain bcause the liberals are becoming abundant
because you're a snowflake
“Blessed are the undefiled in the way, Who walk in the law of the LORD. Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, And that seek him with the whole heart.”
Psalm 119:1-2 KJV
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Amen
I love my faith...but I’m struggling with homosexuality but I’m scared to tell anyone because I feel in my church I would be looked at differently and my family would be disappointed and I’m scared I’m gonna go to hell even just for having these emotions but at the same time I’ve never even engaged in anything with a girl but I feel as if I’m gonna be alone in this and I’m very sad that I know I can’t show my emotions to the person I like and I have a brother and he has a girlfriend and I’m just look at him with her and sometimes feel as if I’ve been robbed of something that everyone else has... I truly as you said feel broken and lost and that I’m less to God
There are many churches that know homosexuality is not a sin or wrong.
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@hydrate your soul - Yes churches will help you overcome much. Homosexuality not nothing to overcome.
The question stands:
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@hydrate your soul Homosexuality is NOT a mere "struggle" and cannot be "overcome". It can't and doesn't need to be. Leave people alone, stop harassing them and pushing them to suicide, asshole.
@hydrate your soul They are not derogatory terms, they're just the words you deserve. You haven't proved anything so far, except that you are a moron and a hateful hypocrite who can't accept the real world. I am much more strong-willed than you'll ever be, because I will never let myself be enslaved by lies and delusion.
@hydrate your soul - The question proves homosexuality is not a sin -- This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
It’s very hard to talk about this conversation with someone but I like how it’s explained 👍🏽🙏🏽
Practically everything he said was wrong.
"God says it's wrong" is not a valid reason. Jesus said that everything is based on love God and love neighbour which gay people can do too.
He conjectures it's self-worship but provides no evidence. I've known self-worshiping straight people but every gay person I've met was genuine and humble.
Rom 1 doesn't even describe homoxesuality. It's not caused by idolatry, no gay man has "set aside the natural use of the female" which he never even had, and no gay person I've known has "been filled with all kinds of evil".
"It's the result of sin to be broken" is absolute garbage. Maybe listen to other than religious people.
I think people don’t fully grasp the horrible pain our Lord Jesus Christ suffered on that day. People can say “sure, he was crucified but a ton of people went through being hung on a cross.” No, no, no. It wasn’t just that horrible pain, no, he had the all the sins of the entire world on him. That bad thing you did to your parent the other day? He carried that for you. The rude remark you made at your friend the other day? He died so you could be forgiven. Jesus took all of our sins, each, every, single, one, of, them, and DIED for us. He took those sins and paid the price that needed to be paid for the horrible actions we continue to do every day. Our Heavenly Father, the almighty Creator, our Holy God sent his only son, his beloved son, to our world, our broken, our ruined and sinful world, a world of mortality, sin and death. He became man and God, a combination of both. He lowered himself to us, he became one of us. Except, he was perfect, unlike the rest of us. He didn’t sin. He had every right to go against us. No. He came to our terrible world and taught and showed us the way to Heaven. He made it possible for us to go live with him and the Father for eternity. He brought Heaven to us. Our good works don’t get us to Heaven. The faith that the Holy Spirit inspires in us every day. And even then our Lord wasn’t done! He took all those terrible sins you committed with him as he died on that cross. He went to hell, and conquered the power of the grave, and the dead rose! He did something that is impossible for any imperfect man to do. He did what we could not, he paid the price for us. He saved us. And still, our Triune God, three in One, Father, Son, and Spirit, wasn’t done! He still isn’t done! He continues to give us chance after chance in our lives to believe in him and find the way. He gives those who have found it the ability to help others find that some path too. He nourishes us and others in our faith through us. He uses Christian teachers to spread the great message and word to young children or younger kids. He continues everyday to pull us closer and closer to him. And when we finally die? It’s not the end, we aren’t truly dead, because of him, we are able to live on, but not only that, we are able to become perfect again, like we were meant to be. We are able to become what we were always meant to be before the fall. He did that for us. He gave us the chance to become perfect again. And when you look at the numbers, so few people actually do take that chance, that opportunity he gave to us. Others right out call him names, attempt to shame him, and other terrible deeds. HE DIED FOR YOU! HE STILL LOVES YOU! All those people that attempted to stone him, or whipped him as he carried his cross? HE STILL LOVED THEM SO DEARLY! When we stone him with our harsh words or thoughts against him, what does he do? CONTINUE TO LOVE US!! HIS LOVE NEVER FAILS! IT NEVER WAVERS, THAT SAME LOVE IS THERE! Do you realize how much it must hurt for our Holy Triune God when people go and just downright insult him? Why? WHY! HE DIED FOR US, HE DIDNT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING FOR US! GOD GAVE US FREE WILLS, AND WHAT DO WE DO? WE DISOBEY HIM DAY BY DAY! WE DO HORRIBLE ACTS, CLAIMING AND SHAMING HIS NAME WITH THEM! WE ARE HORRIBLE AND SINFUL AND JUST DOWNRIGHT NASTY PEOPLE AND CREATURES WHO DOES NOT DESERVE HIS LOVE! But what does he do? He forgives us. When we confess to him our horrible acts, our horrible deeds, he pulls us close to him and tells us that we are forgiven, that our sins have been paid for on the cross that our Lord Jesus Christ died on, and took those terrible sins with him. Our perfect Lord, one who we don’t deserve at all, gave us and continued to give us wonderful gifts that we don’t deserve. Our Lord, our Holy Triune God, is just perfectly amazing. The world adorable? That world only should be used for Jesus. We should adore him. Some do, some don’t. But one thing is for certain: our Holy, almighty God loves us so much we can’t even fathom it. As far as the east is from the west he loves us. The message we all need to hear: Our God loves us so much, he did so much for us and still does. That message, is something I hope gets to many hearts and ears, and helps them realize truly how great our Lord is.
Glory be to God our Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth and Creator of all things. Glory be to the Son, who died for our sins and saved us from eternal damnation. And glory to the Holy Spirit, who nourishes us in our faith and touches the hearts of many. May this message of God touch your heart and help you find him in eternal peace, Amen.
Amen.
I laughed so much reading this
Ps: amen lmao
@@ciawn1218 return to the Lord seek his forgiveness.
But he died a loong time ago he can't die again so all the sins after he died are still there
@@samanthatitus4133 no it doesn't work that way he didn't just do that for the people who were there when he was alive he did it for people in the Future to.
I've seen other videos about what the bible says about homosexuality. I've noticed a theme with other video's claiming the bible says homosexuality is okay. Only difference from your video compared to the other videos I've seen is, there were no mentions about any of of the section of the Bible you spoke on. Which really wasn't a surprise to me. The word of God is phenomenal and I appreciate you sharing what knowledge you have gathered for all to hear. God bless everyone
@equalism 42 If they really loved each other in a romantic way then God would've found way for them to be together since David is a faithful servant. God bless you! God loves you!
@equalism 42 Ok so first things first. Jesus comanded us that we should love EVERYONE as ourselves. In their generation, they only do that on their own family unit. I'm sorry but that's not what the Bible meant as you mean.
David was living under King Saul's palace because he was a good servant to King Saul. Secondly, David loved King Saul's daughter. I'm quite sure that King Saul's daughter was the reward for David's good faithfulness as servant. If they were together, they're just friends. God is good! God bless you!
@equalism 42 For the last time I will say we should actually love EVERYONE as we love ourselves. That passed the love of woman means that David really loved his best friend Jonathan than any marriage including what you think.
Let me explain to you one by one of the verses. This is NIV.
The verse one indicates that they became one in spirit means they will serve the Israelites together. Even in the New Testament says that we should all be in one Spirit.
The verse 2 indicates that they will really serve the world together since David is living under King Saul's roof.
The verse 3 is the promise that Jonathan will protect David with all of his care. This is not marriage. If this is marriage, It would really say in the Bible that they are married. If you actually read most of the Bible's marriages they always indicate the word Marriage.
The verse 4 indicates that this is the passing of ruling. This happens a lot on acient times. A father giving his heirs to his son but Jonathan is the one who gave it to David because he believes that David should be the next one who should take the throne.
Fyi, don't curse.
God is good! God loves you! May God bless you! ^-^
@equalism 42 God made sex as unity. Honestly, I have read this somewhere in Corinthians that sex in marriage is not allowed. God bless you! God loves you the very best!
@equalism 42 Then why would God create woman and not man? God bless you! God loves you!
Proverbs 31:30
“Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.”
King James Version (KJV)
@Cross block777 God and Jesus still exist.
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This was really helpful thank you! I think your humble and respectful approach is really great!
No it is not. It is a bunch of nonsense encouraging hatred and persecution of a minority.
Jesus Christ GAY....never left legacy.
@@wesblood3620 nah this is crazy what u just said
@@x_ban Prove different. Gay.
Zero children because he was GAY.
@@x_ban Not only GAY....but a sexist too....see any women at his gatherings.
Any women at his last Supper?
That is because he was GAY.
um... i think its the act of rejecting lust that i think we're missing. All sexuality, regardless if you're homosexual or heterosexual, its based of physical attraction. That's it, the reason you look at a certain sex and feel attraction is based off that persons physical demeanor. Obviously not everyone is going to be attracted to the exact same physical qualities because God created us to look physically different. Being heterosexual is not automatically going to get you into heaven PERIOD; there's plenty of straight people who do sexually immoral things in the eyes of God, like having children out of wedlock & adultery. Just like there's gay people who can also commit adultery and commit sexually immoral acts. If you know God and know Jesus died for your sins you would know that worldly things do not matter. All Sexuality is worldly and can be used as another distraction from your connection with God and whats really important. As God's children we shouldn't have so much judgment because we could've easily been in another persons situation just as easily as you are in yours. The sexual lust we all share and feel is not rare and is common in all of us. Lust which is one of the sins the Bible talks about and once you recognize/denounce that your becoming more like the Holy spirit who has no need for worldly things. Initially when God created Adam & Eve they were naked and were not ashamed or aware that their physical state only until after the serpent tricked them they began to FEEL shame and cover themselves. Before that they knew no different between each-other; the devil is going to try to make you FEEL things so that ultimately you would FEEL that God doesn't love you. God just want you to drop how you FEEL & put your all/trust in HIM. I feel like that's the message and unintentional or intentional division is separating us from that, because if you think about it we were ALL born into or out of a result of sin the only one that wasn't was Jesus... just saying. God bless yall
lol
@kaliyah nazir you oke? It sounds that you have some personal/emotional problems you need to talk about with a therapist.
Interesting. I can see the lust playing and is something I had thought it before.
Gay is ok
@@user-lc2zi4dl2o according to your fleshy desires it is
I think we ALL should learn how to think and not what to think.
Antonio E boh 👏👏👏👏👏 100% agreed.
Absolutely! I wish I had a Christians "KNOWLEDGE" of God, with an atheists reasoning of it.
Joshua Nicholls I wouldn't go that far. They have been brain washed bro. They live in fear and denial of common sense. But they have been brainwashed. As an escapee of the Pentecostal CULT, trust me when I say, Its VERY difficult to get out of it.
Have a little more understanding in that they have quite literally been brought up in a cult that forces them to remain in fear and servitude. They are sheep, yes. But let's be grateful that we aren't them and that we were gifted with common sense.
I would (go that far).
We are not brainwashed we are christians because we choose to be
"Why is homosexuality wrong?"
"God"
Pretty much the entire argument, anything else he says is fluff.
Jonathan and David were not homosexuals though. The problem is when two males have sexual relations. God calls this an abomination to Him and a sin against one's self. If David or Jonathan had committed the sin of homosexuality, God would have disciplined them.
Hmm, no. The Hebrew word "toevah" meant ritually taboo or culturally unclean, not deadly or sinful. For example, it would be an "abomination" for an Israelite to dine with an Egyptian, but that's clearly not an evil or immoral action. If you'd like to tell me why exactly the ritual purity laws of the Old Testament still apply to modern Christians, be prepared to go after men with long hair, shrimp-eaters, and everyone with a tattoo. All of those people commit equally "abominable" acts according to the OT.
I am a Christian and I also a gay man secretly. I got married to my wife 4 years ago and this has been incredibly one of the most challenging walks of my life. I don't know how long I can keep going on, but my family is very conservative and have been told countless times that divorce is not an option. My family doesn't know that I am gay but my wife does and she says that I am decent guy and that it would be hard for her to find someone else. I really don't know what to do. I never imagined that life would get so hard getting married and that not being attracted could consume all of me totally. I feel so disoriented many days and I totally immerse myself with work to keep me away from my thoughts and my feelings. To top it all, there is a lot of shame because we don't have children and my parents talk only about it every time we speak. I don't know what the way out is or if there is one.. I've lost my zeal, passion to even live and all I wanted was to live that one person. Share laugh. But that is perhaps too much for me to ask at this point.
I'm sorry you are going through this. The bright side is that you've got your wife's support. Maybe you can take one or more male lovers ? As for children, you can not have any. Your family has nothing to say about it.
@Škoda God does not exist, you seek repentance, a lifetimewould not be enough to atone for your crimes.
@Škoda You roast No one but yourself, sociopath, simply by opening your mouth.
@@BlueSky-ej7xn If I knew what ?
@@BlueSky-ej7xn I don’t care. That is no excuse to post such ignominious comments.
I'd just like to point out here that as Christians we believe God to be absolutely sovereign. His word is sovereign whether we "agree" with it or not . And personally, as I came to know Christ I had to wrestle with trusting Him to be sovereign+good. I did not like a lot of things I read in the Bible at first, and I went through a period of 3 years where I basically said "Fuck you" to the Lord. Then after that I stopped pursing Him (until later).
It has been 1.5 years now, and after coming to the end of my rope, I decided to try again and pursue God (who pursues us first). It took what felt like ages to finally realize His sovereignty and goodness. First, one must know He is sovereign. He has the ultimate authority. Second, they must realize that God cannot lie or be impure in any kind of way, for He is only Holy. And this knowledge is given by God.
So basically
If God forbids something, us as His followers recognize His absolute authority in the matter, and that is that. Reverence for God is the beginning of knowledge.
Many people also do not understand the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit, there is much blindness when reading the Bible (unless God ordains sight or you ask Him directly for help understanding something). All wisdom and knowledge is His.
Gay is ok. Get over it.
Amen! The Bible speaks clearly on each sin!
So The first time i watched porn ofc as a guy , i instantly tried normal ones but i couldn't watch it even after many times . It felt very dirty and unimaginable and it did not at all made me horny or excited at all
. Rather grossed me out . But as i saw the other kinds it instantly burned through my blood , it was lust , attraction .
That was my first encounter or discovery of that side of me
I've always been Christian , had gfs too always believed i was straight cus uk that's how the world is . Men and woman .
But throughout , i never even had the urge to kiss them or excited in them in any way .
. So straights get to have sex with pure lust , attraction , and happiness with marriage with Ppl they are attracted to by birth , satisfaction and us the others ( if i may add who are also made this way by birth ) need to fake it ? Need to force it in the name of law ? But isn't lying or faking a sin agn . Do we stay in celibacy for the rest of our lives ? We were born with it too like all of you . And yet we have to put aside our happiness and live by law ? While the rest of the world can live in happiness ? Does the Bible teach us discrimination ? Doesn't it stand for love one love all ? Jesus loved all the children , he loved them all, all different colours . It stood for equality . Where is the equality in this ?
I'm always a devoted Christian , church many times a week , sing in the churchs as well , believe in god and accepted Jesus as my saviour . But this part . I really questions our lord . Why ? How ? Where do I go from here ?
I've watched so many people trying to explain but it never never is right . I won't twist the words in the Bible . I won't go against anything . But as a teen as a human , born with lust like all of you can i really keep this aside in life ?
words so powerful so true so strong . Why did it prohibit it but made me born like this , doesn't that makes it go against itself ?
Lemme share another fact . When i was young i was sick . Like real sick for months and after some long months i slept ..a deep sleep , filled with nightmares for days . But one night in a dream i was taken away in a dark village . And then it was this light shiloutte of a person that put his hand on my head and woke me.up . I woke.up healed and perfectly fine which amazed everyone . This is why my faith is ( or was ) soo strong .
The shiloutte of light had curly hair but i didn't see the hand . I jas assumed it was god or his angels .
I was a kid who prayed to him everyday . I thought he saved me cus he loved and cherished me . But then now why saved a gay kid ? Jas to be discriminated upon by the laws u set ? These unanswered qs will stay with me for life
God lied to abraham in sacrificing his son. He also lied to adam and eve, because he knew they would bite the fuit because he knows the future.
Amen
Simply yet profoundly said.....the best Christian response I've heard .
you wish
@@SamVSwain In what way?
Your bible is only 3000 years old, humans like us (homo sapiens) exist since 300,000 years. In none of the millions of artefacts, cave paintings, scriptures or any other testimony in the 297,000 years before the bible, your homophobic “one and only” god was ever mentioned.
Your version of a homophobic “one and only” god is an invention only 3000 years old.
One day your religion will disappear like all other religions, homosexuals then will still go on existing : )
Have a great day : )
@@Pro-j4q Don't u wish.
One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria… “God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated.
Wow. Absolute heretic. The Bible literally says God is unchanging.
The Bible was written by men
Sad
I'm suprised this comment is not higher on the list
I don't really understand this mentality tho. The bible is the bible. If some of its passages seem outdated and out of place in today's world that's because the bible, as a whole, is utter BS. It doesn't mean however that the bible doesn't says what it clearly says lol. Muslims got the right idea on this, 15 or so century since their guy died and they're still throwing gays off the roof lol which is certainly bad however it's what their religion commands them to do. It's best if you see religion for what it is and leave it because it doesn't make sense rather than sugarcoat the religion and its impact on the world.
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.”
Proverbs 3:5-6 NIV
God is higher and greater than us, we must follow his ways if we want to be saved.
God does not exist, I follow the freakin' ways I please and nobody is yours to save, stupid teenager.
"Why is homosexuality wrong?"
Why is being tall wrong?
Why is being left-handed wrong?
Why is being blonde wrong?
The obvious answer, to the rational and educated is: none of these innate traits ARE wrong.
But don't act on your left-handedness because that's an abomination. And when you reach the 296 sin point mark, you won't make it into heaven.
Feat. Cicero Prove heaven is real. Prove god is real.
England is my city The evidence for the biblical God surrounds us. Look around you, that's a miracle. God is so great, that proves he's real...
Idk lol why're you asking me?
Feat. Cicero Wow everyone always says this but that is simply not evidence. Try again.
StaryKawaii Co Handedness and Homosexuality are actually connected genetically when it comes to the older brother hypothesis. Blanchard et al. argued that the fraternal birth order effect (the probability that a boy will be homosexual increases with the number of older brothers who have the same biological mother) appears to be limited to right-handed men.
I’m so confused because I can’t change how I feel, I don’t like men AT ALL but women 100% and it’s not even the sex but the person :///
pine apple
Don't listen to the other person She's talking out of her ass.
You can change how you feel, millions of people have..
clover sp wdym millions have changed
pine apple
God did not make anyone a homosexual
pine apple
I mean that people have changed their sexualities. Even here on RUclips, there are thousands of ex-gay testimonies
Jazzmoji !
Hey, !!!
thousands of people have changed their sexualities, just because you like to embrace your warped fetishes doesn't mean others are like you, dimwit
I'm a Homosexual, and I am laughing because half of all the people are saying that God hates us Homosexuals, and how they want us to "join" "God", and if I'm going to Hell, I'm getting a girlfriend first.
- A Homosexual Girl.
You do you girl :)
You go girl!
Well first I think you have this all wrong, God loves homosexuals and if anyone tells you he hates homosexuals then they are wrong! God loves them but not there sin and same with me I love and respect the people but not what they believe or stand for
Broken Flame no god doesn't fucking love homosexuals. are you fucking kidding?
Dark Paladin buddy the Bible says other wise the Bible says he loves all you learn what your talking about then we can talk
He just called an entire group of people broken with a smile on his face.
@KJV No it's not, vicious sociopath.
@KJV You have no authority to assert what the body should be used for, sociopath. IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Your brain is broken. The sexual tract is a sexual organ, starting by the mouth, as usual.
@King James explain why the prostate has sexual stimuli then
If you're offended by someone telling you something you're doing is wrong and explaining why in the most respectful and humble way, without ever implying any hatred upon you or forcing you to agree with them. You really need to sit down and ask yourself why.
One cannot explain Biblically what is not there - homosexuality is not a sin in the original text of the Bible.
***** Yes it is... Where did you get that idea? The old testament describes it as an abomination before the lord. i.e it's wrong meaning it's sinful. The word "sin" may or may not be used in reference (I haven't read all the texts. ) but wrong and sin are exactly the same in the bible. The old testament is also known as the Torah; which is jewish text. That has never changed, The Jews made a point to accurately record their texts... so..
Isaac Gukas In the OT it is idolatry that is the sin, not homosexuality. Do not cheery pick a verse without the context.
Abomination has not 1 thing to do with sex - again, context.
Since you like the OT let me cherry pick a few verses and let you - DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21
If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.
DEUTERONOMY 22:22
If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.
LEVITICUS 18:19
The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.
DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12
If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.
***** Wrong = sin. simple. That's what sin is.. it's anything that's wrong. at least that's the simplified explanation. It's disobeying god's commandments.
Killing is not referred to as a sin in the bible. Does that make it okay?? You and I would both recognise it as sinful or wrong.
I'm gonna apologize in advance for the paragraph that I may write to you now.
I love that you used the word cherry pick.. That's exactly what you did.
Thankyou for sharing those verse.. You haven't achieved what I can see you're trying to do. nice try though. Maybe a few years back that would have phased me. But I know much more now.
You shared Leviticus 18:19... well done. But what about Leviticus 18:22.
"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
(In the same way as the commandment not to kill disobeying this law means you've also sinned..)
Or Leviticus 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
Before you start to talk about the bible, make sure you've read and understand It within correct context.
For example, Yes those are all laws in the bible but not all of them are relevant.
Lets not forget that the OT was originally for the Jews. They were required to abide by each law.
However when jesus came, He fullfilled the Law. i.e He completed everyone of those laws you point out. So they are made null and christians are not required to follow them. Futhermore we live from the perspective of the teachings and likeness of Jesus Christ.. we are christians after all so thats important when reading the OT.
SO recap.. Jesus fullfiled the Law meaning christian are not required to live under those laws.
However those laws that pertain to MORAL law are still relevant; right and wrong still exist.
Homosexuality is under the category of moral law. You and I definitely agree on that. And the bible is very clear on whether it is right or wrong.
Jesus said, "God made them male and female. For this reason a man will leave his mother and be united with his wife and the two will become one flesh"
Jesus did not offer any other configuration. And Homosexuality was a thing as well then.
Isaac Gukas Your opinions are not Biblical fact - who have you stoned lately?
You use the OT to say homosexuality is a sin (when it is idolatry that is the sin), then you say >"Lets not forget that the OT was originally for the Jews. They were required to abide by each law.
However when jesus came, He fullfilled the Law. "< Guess Jesus only left the part of the OT that you want to still be in force - you pick and choose as I have said.
Then you go and categorize what you think is moral or not - Did Jesus categorize, or even mention homosexuality - no, yet you do.
Then you go back to the OT again - are you mixed up - yes. You use the parts of the Bible you want and ignore others - so typical of so call christians - I'll follow Jesus Christ. thank you. What was it Jesus Christ (God on earth) said about homosexuality - oh ya not 1 word, yet you do.
You are lost - homosexuality is not a sin in the original text of the Bible. Believe as you wish, God gave you free will to be flat out wrong as you are.
Know God loves you same as God loves me - there is no difference in God's love
Bye
Talk to God about it, He's always listening 🙏
calm down stevie wonder
@@AVeryOldLady4397 no you don't. But you are an internet troll, and a very unintelligent one at that. You're so low, you're a disgrace to the professional internet trolls.
@@AVeryOldLady4397 i'll pray for you
@@AVeryOldLady4397 your most like going to hell
@@AVeryOldLady4397 You need Jesus
Proud to be a Christian❤️❤️
Meron Ashagre
Pride is a sin, But were all prideful sometimes, so do not think I’m judging you. Peace be with you, friend.
Proud to be that despicable kind of Christian ?
@@Nonalhomophobie get off your high horse
I am a Christian myself, and I find it so heartbreaking that many other Christians are scared that choosing not to support LGBTQ+ is wrong and they will be scared about other people's opinions, all I have to say is Do not be scared of other people's opinions while trying to follow the Bibles words, keep on following the Bibles words and it will be the best decisions of your life and God will be proud. as a Bible scripture says: Do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. - Isaiah 41:10
It IS wrong not to support LGBTQ+ as you support heterosexuals.
@KJV I am saying its sad that Christians are scared that following the Bibles words to not support LGBTQ+ is “Bad” because they will be judged for it.
God created Adam and eve. Male and female. How the freak there is another sex?
@@force9791 God created nothing. God does not exist. Adam and Eve are just a myth.
@@force9791 yes, adam and eve, bla bla bla. yet homosexuals still exist. god must have created them aswell, hm? there must be a good reason for that then.
I’m glad to see that this man has nothing to loose by speaking the Truth 💫
He did not speak a shred of proof ; he is a moron and a monster, encouraging discrimination and violence against homosexuals, and their self-loathing and depression.
Fake
@@Nonalhomophobie He is not a moron, he is not a monster, he is not encouraging discrimination and violence against homosexuals, and their self-loathing and depression. However, there is nothing wrong with being LGBT because it is scientific and Jesus loves everyone so Homosexuality is not a sin.
@@aspiknf Of course he is a moron and of course he is encouraging discrimination and violence. He is "explaining" why being gay is "wrong. That's the first thing asked in the video.
@@aspiknf lol
I believe we can't decide or judge who is a sinner or not. It's God who decides it
There is Bible... You know the rules and so do I!
@Sabir jeez calm down kid
@@davedarius7346 hey I agree with you, but you shouldn't call them a criminal, just simply disregard what they said and spread love like Jesus ❤️
@Sabir do u not realize u were sinning as u wrote that comment?
Romans 2:23: "For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.
Reason 3 (starting at 2:35) made me wonder, Is masturbation also considered a homosexual act? Cuz then I'd be super gay.
Marco Schaub He says there are other kinds (starting at 3:28) so you are not gay, yet anyways..
Beth Matsuda I'm not gay. Sometimes I wish I were gay. I think it would make things easier. But I wasn't born gay, so I can't become gay. It's not like it's a choice.
Also, at 5:21 he claims it's unnatural, which is clearly wrong. There have been over 500 species discovered that show homosexual behavior.
At 5:25 he displays a somewhat troublesome opinion. He says that heterosexuality can be sin or holy, but homosexuality can only be sin or chaste. So he admits that the inclination to homosexuality is not a choice. But his answer basically is "though luck, god made you gay, but god hates gays, so you better come to terms with your brokenness".
Marco Schaub Its more than unnatural it is an abomination! to GOD ! its disgusting act of perversion and depravity. Sinful in every way/
Fluffymuffy Pelican So? What of it? No one forces you to be gay. Just let them live their lives in peace. After all, GOD will torture them for eternity after death. Isn't this enough? Must you hate on them as well while they're alive? Filling your heart with hate is sinfull too, you know. Also, Jesus never mentioned homosexuality once. Should make you wonder.
***** How do you know no one is born gay? Because they don't have homosexual relations? But, surprise(!), I'm going to let that stand. From what we know, even though there is surely a substantial genetic influence, the sexual orientation develops to a large part after birth. However, the sexual orientation forms at an age where children cannot make that choice.
i searched high and low for a part of the bible that says being gay is a sin and found nothing.
@Viktor Petrov do you think i have a bible at my house or something? i just went on the online version of the bible and searched the word "gay"
@Viktor Petrov Those quotes don’t mention being gay and even if they did, sociopath, they never say WHY.
@@Nonalhomophobie Calling someone a sociopath for saying they didn't find something that related "gay" in the bible? You're a disgrace to religion.
@Viktor Petrov Denial is on your side, as usual, sociopath. It is you who are incapable to give a rational argument against homosexuality. You constantly repeat "God's commands" (without ever proving God exists) "natural order" (when there is no such thing and when homosexuality is adamantly part of the animal kingdom) and "it disgusts me" (when there is nothing more biased and immature than believing the world turns around what you like).
@Viktor Petrov I have no need to read that book when there are many more interesting and informative books to read and when this one has been debunked as nothing but crap and fairy tales with no basis in real life or science, sociopath.
Homosexuality is not wrong, your viciousness and homophobia are.
If we desire to know God and serve him forever we must first accept his gospel of salvation and Trust Jesus as our savior and King. If we do this with genuine sincerity and give our lives over to Jesus, we will receive his holy spirit. Jesus accepts anyone who puts their faith in him and follows him.
Gay or Straight, if we don't accept Jesus as our savior and King and give our lives over to him, we are lost, we will die in our sins and be judged and condemned.
Yet, if we truly desire to know God and we put our trust in Jesus, we will be judged but not condemned.
When we are saved we receive the Holy Spirit and our desires begin to change, things that were important no longer matter as much and we discover new desires that are pleasing to our Heavenly Father.
Jesus never said one word about homosexuality its not a sin
busybody1 Truth! Only one way out of here
hydrate your soul well I know because he’s right. Jesus never did mention it and I did do my research.
@hydrate your soul I can back him up. He's 100% correct.
@hydrate your soul A guy who read the bible. Also, that quote was not said by god. Someone, I believe it was Paul, . wrote that, simply put what he assumed to be sin. God nor jesus said anything on homosexuality.
I am catholic and my parents brought me up that it is wrong, But I think that you love who you love and everyone should be treated with respect no matter the sexuality of the man or woman. I have 6 bi friends and 2 gay friends and they are the nicest people I know and I would never change a thing about them.
jacob smith so being straight is not sinful at all. When did you choose your sexuality and do you think you can change it at any given time.
No, the bible does not say simply being straight is a sin, if it does say that please tell me where. However there are plenty of sins associated with heterosexuality, such as lust, premarital sex, adultery, and incest. All of those sins pertain to heterosexuals and that is what straight people must avoid and deal with, just as homosexuals must deal with the sin of homosexuality. Simple as that.
According my religion if your name starts with J then you are a big time sinner .
So you have to follow my religion & change your name Jacob .
LMAO , stop lying you lying piece of dirtbag .
You just said you'd pray for them in your previous comment .
You fucking wolves in sheeps clothing .
You are trying too hard be a edgy homophobe who thinks hiding behind "biology" can save your christian ass .
All the psychiatrists have already proved it's not a mental disorder .
Unless you have a phd & you are scientist & you have years of research & proof , you don't get to say it's a disease .
Mark Vasquez. I have feelings for my neighbor. I know he's married. I don't care. I want him anyway. I don't care who gets hurt. I like what I see. I don't care what I destroy. God loves me and wants me happy.
Thank you John. I struggle with same-sex attractions but when I struggle I look to the cross and see Jesus hanging their makes me want to fight. If Jesus sacrifice his life for me to go to heaven then I can sacrifice this sinful lifestyle for him.
Turn that cross 45 degrees, now it's an X that says no to incorrect grammar!
+Ice cream Guru
no matter how you turn the cross is the cross either way.
+MrNwmnmtt You are so wrong. You feel the way you were created by God.... Do not feel punished by the sectarian way of a few close minded christians....
+Orlando Peccora Amen Orlando. Apostates like Piper only cause misery and leave a trail of broken souls in their wake.MrNwmnmtt, There are many resources out their that easily refute John Piper and his damnable heresy.You aren't alone.
Dude don't push it away. If that's how you are then that's how you are. You should embrace it. You can't change it.
Paul is talking about Idolatry.
The context of this have to do with Gentiles rejecting the true God to pursue false gods, idolatry and the sexual behavior deceive is orgiastic, not that of a loving caring relationship.
What is condemned is the worship of false gods
I wonder why John doesn't spend more time condemning the profligate consumption of pork, unconscionable work and travel on the Sabbath, and shameless mixing of fabrics we see all around us?
By his following of that book all of us nurses should be stoned to death for working on Sabbath.
Never mind that people would probably die if we didn't....
One has to understand Old Testament law. John Piper is speaking to an universal moral law. Please let me break it down for you to understand. First, There are three divisions of the Law in Leviticus.
A common mistake made by homosexual proponents when discussing the Old Testament, in particular Leviticus, is the failure to understand the three main divisions of the Law: civil, ceremonial, and moral. This is important because the civil and ceremonial law are not in effect now, but the moral law is. Let's take a look at these divisions within the book of Leviticus since it is the book under examination.
Civil - Expired with the demise of the Jewish civil government
Justice practices (Lev. 24:17-23)
Law of property redemption (Lev. 25)
Be just with the poor, (Lev. 19:15)
Do not hate in your heart (Lev. 19:17)
Retain just scales in commerce (Lev. 19:35f)
Robbery, extortion, false witness, and restitution (Lev. 6:1-7)
Then, there is Ceremonial Law
Ceremonial Law - Expired with the fulfillment of priestly work of Christ (Matt. 3:15)
Various sacrificial offerings for sin (Lev. 1,2,3,4,5,6)
Priestly duties (Lev. 7:1-37)
Laws on animals for food (Lev. 11:1-47)
Cleaning house of leper (Lev. 14:33-57)
Law of Atonement (Lev. 16:1-28;17:1-16)
Regulations for Priests (Lev. 21,22)
Festivals (Lev. 23:1-25)
Last, there is Moral Law which is universal and lasting.
Moral - No Expiration because it is based on God's character. "You shall be holy, for I the Lord your God am holy," (Lev. 19:2)
Do not steal or lie (Lev. 19:11)
Do not oppress your neighbor (Lev. 19:13)
No idolatry (Lev. 26:1-13)
Don't sacrifice children to Molech (Lev. 20:1-5)
Don't commit adultery, incest, bestiality, homosexuality, etc. (Lev. 20:9-21)
You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Lev. 19:18)
dar win I call bullshit on your apologetics.
Ok so I'm bi and I know it's wrong but sense I can't change the way I feel I ask God for forgiveness every day.I make sure to pray to him and ask him for forgiveness.😇
It is not wrong to be bi.
@Flunky No I am not you slandering vicious slummy piece of stinking shit. Prove me wrong.
@@Nonalhomophobie yes it is don’t lie to him/her
@King James Homosexuality is not a sin you sick imbecile sociopath.
@King James Real life 2022 : if a man lies with another man it is no abomination and nothing is worth death you sociopathic piece of shit. You are the mentally ill, fanatic, oozing with shit and hatred. You are not human.
when i was 5 i insulted my family member for being gay, i then immediately regretted it, realizing it was disgusting and wrong to do that.
the fact that full grown adults, that are supposed to be rational in thinking, can completely disregard and vilify someone's basic humanity.
the fact that 13 year old's on the internet have a better understanding of basic human rights and equality, than a LOT of adults ranging from young to old is, simply put, embarrassing.
not to mention the hypocrisy, the plain, simple, hypocrisy. what if you were attacked, harassed, bullied and even murdered, for being a man who loved a woman? a woman who loved a man?
the bible is no excuse, the lack of procreation is no excuse, homosexuality has never hurt nor ever will.
homosexuals, transexuals, bisexuals and everyone else in between, want one thing, to live their lives without all this unnecessary hate.
YESSSS thank you
Well said!
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@@Solbashio true
@Κύκλωπας it must be horrible to have you as family
Well said brother, everybody comment here so that goes viral
Best explanation ever! Reading Romans does speak about idolatry and pride that eventually gives one over to a reprobate mind and makes comparisons, thank you for sharing.
There is nothing to thank that bigot for.
I disagree. The section about Sodom sounds like the soldiers intended to sexually assault the men depending on how you read it. Also at the time the bible was written the Greeks and Romans thought it was normal for a man to sexually assault a boy a sex slave. I reckon that is what it is talking about and not 2 adults in a monogamous relationship.
It may well be true as far as the Roman-Greek world is concerned
Then he would probably have written it differently! It was clear that this book would be known worldwide and even be the best-selling book!
The Holy Spirit would have let the apostle Paul write it that way if it had been so.
Therefore, every negation is a deliberate disregard of God's commandments.
2 Timothy 4:3-4: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
older translations don't even mention sex. "to know them" = interrogation.
This was amazing. I am forwarding this to as many folks as I can.
Amen🙏
may we care Lord about Your authority and order! thank You for our brother Piper and the wisdom with which he answered this question!
There is no wisdom in anything that bigot spouted !
It’s so simple. If a person doesn’t believe the Bible or agree that’s absolutely ok! But don’t verbally harm those of us that Love God and his word in its entirety.
Our people have shown ill will to anyone who was different. The old ways have truly tarnished people’s outlook on us Christians. Not only that but Christians as a whole. OuR people tarnished what we stood for all along. We don’t have the best track record throughout history. No offense or anything but you unknowingly seem like a hypocrite.
Yall have to do the same with us tho. Mind ur business and let me leave my life.
As long as you say no homo beforehand it's all ok
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No one is perfect but, you come close when you follow Christ’s teaching the right way to improve your life and don’t over analyze everything to fit your own convenience.
"Fit your own convenience"
Such an ironic statement about the bible because through out centuries, the Bible was used to justify murder, slavery, r*pe and domestic abuse... who is really trying to change it for their convenience, "Christians", or non believers?
@Deleted all my comments to not hurt your feelings One must also understand that, the bible is not reliable information. Even if there is a god, how can we know the bible is his words?
Isn't it more logical to try and cause as less harm to others, than to follow a misinterpreted book? Surely god would prefer a good person over wrong interpretation
blah blah blah
What does the Bible say about not being a virgin female when you get married? If the Bible applies to one, it applies to all.
For any person that is truly struggling with this issue (I write this out of love for you as a brother in Christ), I would encourage you to begin thinking of homosexuality as a secondary issue. Every single argument that I see made by a gay person, being gay is the number one thing that defines them. You have first get over that hurdle and say first and foremost I am an adopted child of God and an image bearer of the living God - without sexuality being brought into the equation. Once we are able to do this, we can join Jesus in praying for God's will to be done and HIS kingdom come in the same way as it is in heaven! This means that by denying ourself, we are able to seek God's beautiful and perfect design for how we were created. Then by God's grace when we are able to see outside of ourselves, the holy spirit can begin loosening our grips on the things of this earth, because we have a promise of a new heaven and new earth WHERE SEXUALITY WILL NOT BE IN THE PICTURE. Once at this place we can say to the living God, "Ok. I don't get it, I don't understand why your word says homosexuality is wrong and why I struggle with it, BUT I will lay it aside for more of you." And you cannot get to this place unless you first deny yourself (your desires, needs, plans etc) and follow Jesus. If you have a closed hand around your sexuality, you will admitting that it is an idol and that Jesus is not your treasure. We need to lay aside EVERY SINGLE weight and sin which so EASILY entangles us, and look to Jesus. This debate brings about so much anger in people, and Satan uses this to entangle us and to have us focused on being right about this topic than the health of our souls. I encourage you to just pray and have a open hand with this issue. Don't be defined by your sexuality, but be defined by an adopted son/daughter of the living God.
prove god exists
It isn't that being gay is the primary identification for LGBT people, it's that when we're talking about this subject, we're focusing on it as a topic of conversation, which means we're prioritizing that aspect of our identity (gay or straight).
It's just as easy to reverse: every time I hear a straight person talk about their sexuality, it's like being straight is the number one thing that defines them!
Sorry but your posting here is seriously confused. The Bible - as understood by conservative evangelicals - seeks an immeasurably greater sacrifice from lesbians and gay men than from straight people. Straight people are allowed to marry and have children as well as the companionship, company, warmth, sex, support and intimacy such a close and loving partnership brings. I am a Christian and I am 100% homosexual. I have never had a glimmer of sexual attraction or arousal with any of the thousands of women I have met in my life. Like your sexuality, brother, it just happened, and I certainly did not ask for it, I have now decided to take the Bible at face value and I am celibate and have been for almost a year. Some Christians say that, the more they give up for Christ, the more grace they experience. Not me, Jesus has given me no help in my sexuality over the past year. I am really underwhelmed, no, disappointed. The past year has brought for me:
loneliness - I have lost a lot of friends
isolation
shockingly poor sleep patterns
depression
grieving
conflict
anger
sexual frustration which has been intense at times
pain and anguish
embarrassment - people think you are really weird if you tell them
mood swings so bad that I am being checked out to see if I have bipolar affective disorder
bewilderment
I bet you do not want to be celibate all your life. Almost no man does, brother. There is a myth perhaps that someone like me has 'the gift of celibacy'. I don't and the reality is just as bad as you think it would be for you, which is why everyone hates the idea of it. All the women at my work, brother, are on diets, All they talk about is food. Well, with celibacy, the thoughts of sex are more prevalent giving that I am completely doing without.
Sorry this is so negative and 'in-your-face angry'. Something in your posting filled me with anger and I had to walk away from my laptop. I am sure you are a nice guy and you mean well but your comment comes across as crass and simplistic. I feel bad having a go at you and I am sorry for that and for venting my anger in this way. If this has upset and offended you in any way, let me know and I promise I will apologise in public to you here. David from the UK
David Kennedy
I have to genuinely wonder why you'd choose to remain in the faith. I found that my life was immeasurably better when I took away from it what I knew to be right and moral (love thy neighbor as thyself, remove the plank from your own eye before the mote in your neighbor's, etc.) and let go of the rest. Having to rationalize one's existence against the execrable statements made by Paul and others stopped being an exercise worth doing.
snake oil , lunacy and your would-be Lord didn't voice your opinion. But keep on making yourself sound yet more absurd by dragging his name into it .
Now you get undefined by your heterosexuality, dum dum, presuming you have it!?
I came here so that I may learn how to minister to friends and family that I know or others may know who want to know about Jesus, to better help them and myself understand. To touch every walk of life and let them know they have a Home waiting in Jesus.
Can you Biblically answer these two questions?
Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Craig D
Look at you trying to justify your sin. The bible is clear. Open your eyes.
@@craigd9896 we are all born into sin in this sinful world. If you read Genesis you would understand that. However it is through Jesus that we can get to the father.
@@K71421 Yes and what was Jesus all about - love. Love not for just some, but for all. Jesus that dark skinned, Jew, was sent here to teach love for all, not just some. All can be with God. Stop trying to make it hard, it is not. God is in everyone of us, not just some; and God loves everyone the same...no exception, none. FYI- your idea of being born with sin, is man made, not God made as you were born in His image
@@craigd9896 Do you not remember the fall of humanity? Jesus is the way to the father and the body is the temple for the holy spirit. We were bought at a price and must honor our creator with our body and not defile it. Love everyone in Christ including your enemies. I believe with Jesus in your heart and you being on fire for God will keep you functioning how God designed us, a man and woman will become one flesh as God created it to be. Love all creatures in Christ, but that does not mean Love All Creatures sexually or all people sexually or all genders sexually. It just means love everyone through Christ Jesus in wholesome heart just like the father so loved us that he gave us his only Son to pay the price for our sins.
I'LL SAVE EVERYONE 7 MINUTES: "why is homosexuality wrong?" - "because the bible says so."
Um - the Bible does not say homosexuality is wrong, nor does the original text of the Bible say homosexuality is a sin. Nor did Jesus Christ (God on earth) say 1 word about homosexuality. This man is flat out wrong.
well some believe jesus himself was homosexual. with a male foot fetish. inviting the company of boys, and associating with his harem of 12 men.
+manualLaborer I like how Christians will yell and scream that you are wrong and they are right. But their only response to good points like yours are, "Because the Bible said so,"
lol and that is a total lie and the Bible being taken out of context by these Anti Gay Christians
Right XD All I got from this is
"The bible says that..." and
"In the bible it says..."
I have a question sir if you did this sin and you stoped doing it and you changed and asked for forgiveness will you go into the kingdom
If you regret it and you regret All your sins then you should
Matthew 22.40. God's commands boil down to 1 showing God respect, trust and gratitude and 2 doing good and not hurting other people. It has nothing to do with your orientation and who you do or do not have the capacity to love.
Yes if u repent of ur sins and stop and follow Jesus
I'm being accused by +Issac Jones not answering his questions. For those of you that know me, I LOVE to answer questions, as long as you answer mine as well. The deal was that if he answered one of mine first I would answer 14 OF HIS! He refused to answer the question in a way that truly gave an honest answer. I asked him for a biological definition of a human male. This was his answer """Man: One whose head is Christ, one who is obedient to God's Commandments and is a descendant of Adam.
Woman: One whose head is the man, one who is suppose to be submissive and to the man and keeps God's Commandments also, descendant of Eve." That would be like me asking him what kind of gas he puts in his car and he reads me a recipe out of a cook book!
What your doing is wrong and you know it.
So please continue to validate yourself ❤️
You are an idiot
““ ‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’”
Acts 2:17-21 NIV
and still homosexuality is not a sin
@@craigd9896 The lgtbq community isn’t the nature of God, it’s the nature of doing whatever you want.
@@crystalwyrm4767 They why did God create lgtbq people? Did God create them for you do hate?
@@crystalwyrm4767 God does not exist, and LGBTQ is found in nature.
@@Nonalhomophobie He does exist, you can’t see it because you’re far from God.
This one really puts the fear in me... I cant believe what awful lies I believed...I just read romans 1. Please Pray for me To be a better man. And to be a better example. And to Start reading my bible. God Bless
Where you engaging in pagan secs festivals or something?
The fact that you have fear and are gullible enough to belive in this shit shows me why people like you are homophobic. Wake up, and think for yourself. Why isn't he praising slavery? The bible is all for it.... Why is he picking and choosing homosexuality? That word wasn't even put into the bible until 1946. Don't believe everything you hear from these sick people.
I prayed for you buddy. Start in the book of Matthew!
@@Vibekilla I'll cast a spell for you buddy. Fuck off.
@@chastitydusser3 hey God bless you and I hope you repent and find Jesus Christ because eternity is long.
This is something I've struggled with. We now know that there are a lot of factors that are involved with homosexual tendencies, and it is found all throughout nature. It's just part of life itself homosexuality is found in humans and a lot of other animals. Being heterosexual you can't help but feel the way you do and it's exactly the same for homosexuality as well. Back when the bible was documented and written they didn't know this stuff. The religious will argue that God made us and gave us free will, and in their conclusion, homosexuality is a choice however we now know that it isn't. So, therefore God made us this way and the conclusion is, it's perfectly fine to be gay just as it's perfectly fine to be straight. Basically, modern problems require modern solutions and to use the bible seems counterintuitive however if you do then you must admit the former and not only that also admit that it was God that set evolution into action. By doing this you dig yourself deeper and deeper into what is true about the bible and what isn't.
Which Bible is Piper using?
Malakoi In 44 Translations
The Apostle Paul - AD 55 - Greek - malakoi
Bible - year published - translation
Wycliffe - 1380 - neische
Wycliffe - 1388 - letchouris ayen kinde
Tyndale - 1526 - weaklinges
Martin Luther - 1534 - weichlinge
Coverdale - 1535 - weaklinges
Matthews - 1537 - weaklinges
Great Bible - 1539 - weaklynges
Swedish Version - 1541 - weaklingar
Geneva Bible - 1560 - wantons
Bishops Bible - 1568 - weaklinges
Valera Spanish - 1602 - effeminados
Rheims-Douay - 1609 - effeminat
King James Version - 1611 - effeminate
Portuguese - 1690 - efeminados
Daniel Mace New Testament - 1729 - the effeminate
Darby - 1884 - those who make women of themselves
Darby French - 1885 - effemines
Young’s Literal - 1898 - effeminate
ASV - 1901 - effeminate
Weymouth - 1903 - any who are guilty of unnatural crime
Louis Segund French - 1910 - effemines
Moffat - 1913 - catamites (boys who have sex with men)
Lamsa Translation - 1933 - men who lie down with males
New American - 1941 - sodomites
Revised Standard - 1952 - sexual perverts
Amplified - 1958 - those who participate in homosexuality
NASB - 1963 - effeminate
New American Bible - 1970 - boy prostitutes
New English - 1970 - guilty of homosexual perversion
NIV - 1973 - male prostitutes
NKJV - 1979 - homosexuals
JW-NWT - 1984 - men kept for unnatural purposes
New Century - 1987 - male prostitutes
Green’s Interlinear - 1986 - abusers
NRSV - 1989 - male prostitutes
Bible In Basic English - 1994 - one who is less than a man
CEV - 1995 - pervert
NLT - 1996 - male prostitute
Complete Jewish Bible - 1998 - active or passive homosexuality
International Standard Version - 2000 - male prostitutes
The Message - 2002 - those who use and abuse each other
World English Bible - 2005 - male prostitutes
God’s Word Translation - 2006 - homosexuals
The NET Bible - 2006 - passive homosexual partners
@@andypandy7769 Do you have proof Apostle Paul wrote anything? NO! So you picked and choose the King James version. Are yoiu saying people who read other bibles are going to hell? All educated people - you are very pompous. And nothing you said changes the fact - homosexuality is not a sin
@@andypandy7769 If you don't believe why are you here? Homosexuality is not a sin.
I’m a Christian but what saddened me was when one time during the Sunday service the pastor said that even if a good person was born into this world and lived a good life - didn’t do anything gravely wrong but was not able to know God - let’s say he was born in a place where they aren’t really practicing religion; the point is it wasn’t his conscious decision to not believe in a God he was just not given an opportunity to - then he said he won’t go to Heaven and go to hell. like that’s just sad.. that’s why sometimes I like to believe there is a God but I don’t believe in religion. I’m also bi and i couldn’t understand how something so pure is a sin? murder and stealing is wrong but love? how is that wrong. i have a same sex partner for 5 years now and i can say our relationship is healthier and happier than other heteros out there
@Κύκλωπας It is NOT wrong, you sociopath. God does not exist, and you have no power to prohibit anything YOU hate for no valid reason.
@Κύκλωπας Sssssshhhh, sociopath, or I'll have your comments deleted again.
@Κύκλωπας Our homosexual relationships are love.
You saying it's bad because god apparently said so, just isn't gonna cut it. I simply don't agree with your god. You and god have failed to give actual reasons on why it's bad.
@Кремль There is love in gay relationships, otherwise gay couples would not marry in the countries where they can, douche bag. God does not exist and you do not decide how we can use our bodies. You do not live in reality. You are against it. You gave virtually no argument to anything you have ever said. None.
idk if i'm late but God is fair in His judgment and can be seen in Romans 2 so what the pastor at your church said was wrong, it depends on how much the person knows about God and the truth. if a person was not given the opportunity to know the truth then God will judge without His law. I've asked a former elder in our church about it and he has told me God judges based on what we know and how much knowledge we have of Him
I agree 100% it’s annoying to see people who don’t believe in the Bible, they only believe in what they see. They don’t care about what the consequences . I couldn’t have said it better myself. Thank you kindly for your video. Amen 😊
And how is not believing in a fairy tales book and being rational « annoying » ?
SO YOU DON'T REALLY LOVE GOD YOU'RE JUST SCARED HE WILL SEND YOU TO HELL?!! MAN UP!!!
Have you ever wondered what makes the bible reliable ?
@@Nonalhomophobie its because u don't have sense
@@zenobenard1308 Same question : how is not buying your fairy tales a lack of sense ?
Why doesn't the bible nor any of the holy books have anything specifically condemning adults having inappropriate relations with children????
it did, before someone changed it. 1timothy1.10 the greek word being translated is arsenal coitus which has been translated as pedophilia. 1534 German translation of Lev1822 uses the word knabenschänder. knaben for boy, and schänder for molester. 1674 Swedish and 1830 Norwegian translations of Lev1822 are the same. "18 years of age" was changed to "8 days after birth".
@@juzeus9 It was neither homoxesuality, nor pedofilia. It's impossible to make sense of ancient documents with modern categories like that.
my comments are disappearing because someone doesn't want people to know the truth. "homosexual" did not appear in any bible until 1946. 1534 German translation of Lev1822 uses the word knabenschänder. knaben for boy, and schänder for molester. 1674 Swedish and 1830 Norwegian translations are the same.
@@juzeus9 That's right. no one knows what that word meant From what we know from history, most victims were boys. So that was the simplest way of expressing back then. Of course the modern term "homoxesual" is incorrect for multiple reasons. "boy mole-star" is closer but inaccurate.
The meaning has been lost and there are only conjectures, but I would say deriving pleasure by dominating and denigrating a victim by means of secs penetration. I would translate it as "secs abuzer". It's probably too broad, but it conveys the point better.
@@MusicalRaichu the Leningrad Codex is the oldest complete manuscript of the Old Testament 1008 AD, written in ancient Hebrew, and the source texts for all modern 'interpretations' and 'mistranslations' of the Old Testament. Leningrad Codex "If there is a man who lies with a male IN HIS WIFE'S BED" ie ADULTERY... Lev1822 original Hebrew: “And with a male you shall lie down the lyings of a woman". Genesis 49:4 depicts “lyings” as INCEST, of Reuben who slept with his father's concubine... both instances have something to do with family relationships.. homosexuality was never a sin. god makes gays to care for orphans
I believe god will welcome us in to heaven and wash away all our sins. No matter if your gay or straight or if you kill someone. God will forgive us if we repent.🙏🏽
Yes that's true but that's only if we repent here on Earth. If someone lives in their sin even till death refusing to turn away from it they won't get into heaven. People who insist on keeping their sin will simply get what they chose but those who were seeking God and left their sin behind we'll get to live with God in heaven. The reason Heaven is so much better than Earth is because there's no sin in heaven. Earth even used to be like it until we sinned. But to summarize if you repent (which means turn away from sin) you'll be forgiven and washed clean but if you continue living in the sin till you die, you're going to bare the consequences. If you didn't choose God down here then He's not going to allow you up there.
@@jeremymunyua9856 Thought you had to put your trust into Christ.
Just ask for forgiveness and never do it again. If you end up doing it again, then it’s okay just keep asking for forgiveness and try your best to stop it. As long you’re not doing it all on purpose
Hell left the chat
Some ppl even if u tell them they dont belive in god anf idk if they regret
I just don't understand how something as pure as love could be wrong
@Кремль Homosexuality is as much about love you sociopath.
@Кремль you sound so dumb
@Кремль Love comes from real people and some other species like dogs. God does not exist. You cannot use your god as an excuse to vomit your hatred. You do not decide what abuse is. You are pure evil and hate yourself.
@Кремль God does not exist whether you like it or not you vicious fanatic. Love comes from PEOPLE.
I roast you now by having all your comments deleted.
@Кремль how did you come to conclusion that gay people abuse their bodies with eachother and that they have a vile behavior, its just 2 people who love eachother idiot!
How can people say that Jesus never addressed homosexuality?
“For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: these are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man” (Matthew 15:19-20).
In these verses, Jesus lists some sins that defile people, among which is fornication. Fornication is any sexual activity that does not consist within scriptural marriage. Hence, homosexuality is fornication, and thus Jesus Christ condemns it.
“But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh” (Mark 10:6-8).
Here Jesus explains the natural order that God made in Genesis: “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh” (Genesis 2:24). God designed men to be married to women, and women to men. Sodomy between two men is therefore a perversion of nature, an abomination in God’s sight. In Romans 1:26, Paul condemns changing “the natural use into that which is against nature.”
About your second claim...
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT SEX!!!
LastTriforce agreed
That’s right. A child rapist murderer is accepted at the church, but someone who is gay is not. Makes sense.
@Boris you Sir are to love your neighbor - did you not listen to what Jesus Christ taught. What you posted is judgement and get you hell in your future....good luck
@Boris Just about everything is about loving your neighbor. So even you seem to forget what Jesus Christ taught.
The problem is you do not post the truth, you post verses totally out of context and therefore judge someone is sinning.
It is not I that needs help - look in the mirror. Ask Jesus Christ to help you with truth.
@Boris The Bible is crap. There is no reason to « prohibit homosexuality » which is extremely delusional to even think about. You cannot forbide us from being gay and dating the other gender. Only fanatics and terrorists think they can.
@Boris Why do you hide from answering questions about Leviticus, your brought up what Jesus Christ put to rest saying; some is still in effect...and you pick and choose, and you judge based on that. All the while homosexuality is not a sin.
Answer the questions:
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24.
The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9.
The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death.
Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
@Boris Shush.
I really like his response on this, very well thought out.
Not at all. It's the response of an ignorant bigot. Homosexuality is not wrong.
@@Nonalhomophobie you are here too calling people names again... if you don't think its wrong why are you here at another site again
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@@toilotoili7097 It is NOT wrong. Claiming it is is violent and homophobic.
@@Nonalhomophobie how exactly am I homophobic and violent ?
and you claiming I am is false accusation, calling names and lying about another have you thought of that ?
you dont have to agree that is your freedom of choice but you are and have gone on other sites accusing people and calling them names because they don't agree with you why do you agree with everyone obviously not so why call someone names because they believe that God's word says homosexuality is a sin if you dont you dont...
5:26 he’s pretty much saying someone who is homosexual, has the same sexual struggles as a heterosexual. Then he goes on to say that someone who is homosexual can either rewire themselves into being heterosexual or not be in a homosexual relationship meaning they can’t have an intimate relationship.
This makes me very upset and angry. As a lesbian, born in a highly influential Christian family with an immense amount of pressure to be straight, I know I can’t change to be heterosexual. I also know I just can’t live my whole life without love.
It’s definitely not the “truth” making me angry; it’s this opinion on homosexuality. I said my sexuality to say first hand that I know you can’t change who you love. And by living without love, I mean living without a significant other/partner/lover not a relationship with God.
Also to be clear being gay won’t send me to hell, not being a Christian will (Ephesians 2:8). Like I said I grew up in a Christian home so I know my stuff. I’ve literally heard every argument there is against homosexuality and still, personally, I believe it’s definitely not wrong.
@BorisEverything you say is your sick opinion, sociopath.
@Kosher If being gay or lesbian it’s a sin and it needs to be changed then why would God permit such people to be. Personally being raised on Christianity and also loving God with all my heart for many years and never being called out or “changed” because of my sexuality. Don’t send the wrong message to people and judge them by the bibble without knowing what God is doing or thinks. The bibble doesn’t specify details of LGBT because at that time it wasn’t known (the times of when it was written) and also because there isn’t an exact explanation for it. It’s all based on interpretation. God knows the heart and knows every single person. The sin will lie when you are not being honest with who you are and what you feel. You can’t force people into changing who they are. God will if he wants to once we ask him to, and trust me if there is no change then God is the one judging not us.
@Kosher So.... could straight people be rewired to be homosexuals ? From thousands of experiments with failed conversion therapy, you've got to admit that it's not possible to change someone's sexual orientation, even when you, homophobes, invoke god's power and make them reborn as Christians. Do you praise asexuality then? Do you know they're part of the LGBTQ+ community aswell? And why do you feel the need to tell people you're straight? Why do you walk in the street holding hands with someone from the opposite sex? Why do you talk about your wife/husband when you discuss with coworkers? Because it's part of your identity. Don't use your religion to hate people. Love thy neighbor.
Shut up, homophobic nerd. Love is love.
5:20 umm it's not. Every mammal species has a certain percentage of the population that performs in homosexual activities.
This is just to show female mammals the male strength
You can see dean hamer search about homosexuality in animals
@Jordan - that's why it makes no sense to use "natural" as a synonym for "good" or unnatural as one for "bad". You mark my words.
Damn... animal is ur role model!? The fuck...
Damn... animal is ur role model!? The fuck...
@@cheroshrac378 no. What I was trying to say is nature should not decide what's good or bad- morals should. (NOT religion)
The reason people have a problem with the Bible condemning homosexual is because they dont want to stop but they knownits wrong. God forgives and one day we all have to make a choice heaven or hell
It is not wrong to be gay.
as an antisocial person i know what they feel to be hated just because you aren't " normal "
still, i'll never force people to accept me cause i don't want to be forced too
really sorry for my broken english lol
Our concept of normality doesn't exist outside our heads. They think they know what's right and wrong but in the end, it's purely subjectice. Only you know how and what you want to be, not a god, not your parent and especially some radical christians on youtube.
If you love yourself how you are then that's how you should be and if you have something you don't like about yourself then change it. And if you can't change it then you can at least try to make the best out of it.
It doesn't matter who a fictional Sky Daddy wants you to be. It only matters who YOU want to be.
We are made in Gods image. He created some of us to be gay, so there could be diversity and Beauty among society. If God did not want gays on Earth he wouldn't have created gays. God loves us all he put us here for a reason. Maybe it's to stand up for gay rights or create equality. Eventually we will have the same rights as all other humans. And when we do, we will find another minority and stand up for them. So eventually the world will be at peace. God accepts everyone.
I will say that your right when Jesus tells me in person that love is a sin. Jesus will have to tell me on Earth and tell me why it happens. You are spreading negative energy, offending gays when you should be happy and telling them that they will enter the Kingdom Of God.
no one is created gay.
Arcadia Society God did not create anyone gay God create humans. And that is not the purpose of Our Lives... Jehovah did not intend for this world to be like this and he did not intend for humans to be with the same sex in the Bible it says God created man for a woman and a woman for a man... the Bible is all inspired by God himself so therefore you are lying to yourself and to others... because God obviously did not intend for gayness to be a thing... God created Eve for Adam Jehovah gave her to him and told them to fill the Earth so if it were God's intention for gay people to even exist he would have given Adam a man ... and told them to reproduce and fill the Earth( God did not)case closed
Arcadia Society and you cannot call yourself a Christian if you are doing something that the Bible obviously says you don't do...and you act as if it is right in God's eyes... You are slandering Jehovah's name because God said gayness was an abomination and detestable to him..... in the Bible it says hate what Jehovah hates and love what Jehovah loves... So if you think gayness is okay and you are lying and saying Jehovah thinks it's okay then you cannot call yourself a Christian... because the Bible says gayness is detestable to him... So who are you to say otherwise and yet call yourself a Christian?
@@stareyes453 OK, Shakira, big question I really want to have answered:
Is God a "watchmaker", who did not intend for the world to be like this, and did not intend for Gayness to be a thing, and hasn't done anything about it...
Or is God "always present" in our lives, and will help us if we just pray to him, and can move mountains.
Like, why make certain (completely random) parts of the population more tempted to sin? That seems unfair.
Of course you can say you will deal with this brokenness so easily. But for us, it is difficult. Lifelong. Dont say easily you will deal with it. You know nothing
Remember. Every person has struggles. Heterosexuals and homosexuals. Heterosexuals can suffer from lust and sexual immorality. Everyone struggles with something. Nobody is alone or different in such a way.
Our Savior Jesus Christ please guide me right. This blasphemous sin has corrupted me and alienated me from God. I hope to become a pure and good person again like when I was a boy. Deliver me from the pit of iniquity. Help me to be a good Christian.
You can stop at 0:30 when the argument is "Because the Bible says it is".
@@whyusodumb2954 Didn't read your shit, homophobic scumbag, reported it instead.
Non à l'homophobie it’s not natural, natural is man and a woman that’s how we reproduce.
@@socktier6334 Well homosexuality is not only a trait that is found in humans, there are many examples of it happening in nature with animals. Also your argument is flawed, reproduction and sexuality even when they go hand in hand are two different things. And I brought up the example of homosexuality in animals as Im predicting your argument about how is something to do with lust and perversion. Animals are not driven but lust yet there are interactions with members of the same sex. If something that happens in nature is not by definition natural then I dont know what it is.
Morthan Gaming,
Infanticide is quite common in the animal kingdom, does that justify it or make it natural among humans?
Also the two main reasons animals engage in homosexual acts is to assert dominance or to fulfill their own needs. It hardly out of love.
Animals also lack the intelligence of us humans.
Humans reproduce sexually, this requires a male and a female. Sex was clearly designed to be between a male and a female.
@@whyusodumb2954 Both of them are natural occurrences yes, if you want to take it like that. However, what you are trying do here is flawed. You are trying to compare sexual orientation with infanticide to make a point of them being "irrational" behaviours. Guess what? Being gay does not hurt people. There are plenty of gay couples with kids that treat them better and are happier than their straight counterparts. So yeah good try.
your ontology is not the only one.This is why religion has the freedom to practice it's beliefs but not to establish those beliefs as laws for others in the USA. What you are doing Mr.Piper is speaking in defense of a caste system that sees itself as "The-Truth"...fine...you have the freedom to believe & practice those beliefs...& i have the freedom of speech to believe other than do you..
I’ve been struggling with the thoughts of is it a sin or not and feel very conflicted by this topic because I’m pretty sure the Bible definitely brings it up just doesn’t use the terms we use now. The thing is that I have a really close cousin who loves God and her relationship with God kinda inspires me to stop being lazy and procrastinating and grow that relationship with Him. However, she’s in a lesbian relationship, I really enjoy spending time with them both and really like her partner, she’s a real cool person and my cousin even has them read their Bible together pray, and just having God in the relationship so that really made me second guess what I’ve been told and somewhat of my beliefs. I just feel very stuck about it
@Jin-Soo Kwon The Bible is crap, sociopath.
@Jin-Soo Kwon The preacher is the leader of a CULT, ya just follow, no questions. Homosexuality is not a sin.
@@craigd9896 Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have
committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense."
Leviticus 18:22
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin."
@@gravity4467 How many times do I need to educate people on Leviticus as they just pick and choose.
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24.
The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9.
The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death.
Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging
Here's a video that gives a different point of view
ruclips.net/video/zW5ZZtdziwU/видео.html
Jesus healed on the Sabbath, pissing off the Pharisees, the rule following hypocrites. Who's to say he wouldn't allow same sex relationships under the right terms?
A good question
This came at the right time to me. Thank you
It's okay to be gay :)
@@halid9457 you can get banned for homophobia
@@x_Arone_x Weenie lmao
@@bb1ny exactly
@Nick4578 John 3.16 tells us who will enter heaven and guess what it has nothing to do with who people happen to be naturally attracted to. And John 15.17 tells us the only commandment we have to obey. Again, nothing to do with your secsual orientation.
I am so confused this video is just causing so much hate between Christians and homosexuals why can’t we all just love each other and except our differences I am a Christian and I am not homophobic I just wanted everyone to just live in harmony and not argue which side is right god said to love one another and that is what we should do not hate one another because of our sexuality , race or gender.I just wish for a world were everyone can truly co exist in harmony.
"So much hate between Christians and homosexuals" Then what do we do about Christian homosexuals ? Are they hating themselves ?
Non à l'homophobie no christian hate homosexuals
We like the sinner and try to avoid the sin
@@2002THEBOY Homosexuality is NOT a sin. You can surgarcoat it the way you want, hating homosexuality = hating homosexuals.
When you know the Truth, you can deny it is true but you know it is. Honest, humble, patient and understanding speaker.
Nothing honest, humble, patient or understanding about that bigot. He didn't speak the truth or any kind of truth, just hateful lies against a minority.
doesn't change the fact that he's wrong. it's amazing that these people who do this for a living know less about the bible than a week's worth of research. the bible has been altered
@@juzeus9 Every human being has the right to be wrong. In exercising that right they are not at fault. Nobody needs to tell me about the faults of other people. I can see them every time I take my eyes off my own.
@@Jack-il3qv right and wrong are opposite
@@juzeus9 I feel you have enough intelligence to understand that every human being has the right to be wrong. Right, as in, 'Human Right or natural privilege.' However, I could be wrong.
Those who condemn God's homosexual children, are condemning God's creation; and thus they are also condemning God. And that is nothing short of blasphemy?
As a Chrisian, I am sorry for the narrow-minded, judgmental, deceptive, manipulative, actions of those who denied rights & equity to so many in the Name of God.
Following Jesus does necessarily mean you convert to Christianity or join any particular version of that faith but it does mean you take a Jesus perspective of your neighbors and align your behavior to emulate what he taught. He did not teach theology or dogma. He did teach a lot of very good parables, he taught rebellion in a sense against the religious power brokers of his day, but mainly he taught LOVE & FORGIVENESS for all.
Then think about this: Does it make sense to you, that an Omniscient Omnipotent Being would decide to reveal Himself and His Message to a highly superstitious people who were over 90% illiterate, in confusing stories made by fallible men over a span of almost 1000 years, to be compiled in a book, that they could not even read, restricted to 3 languages they could not speak for hundreds of years, and which even the believers of the Book have been arguing, fighting and even killing each other for, over interpretations, for thousands of years? That is how God would communicate you say? Again, what did Jesus teach - mainly he taught LOVE & FORGIVENESS for all. Additional; the books that are included in the Bible were decided upon at the Council of Nicea in 525 AD,a group of old men who could read. At this same council, a vote was cast to determine the divinity of Jesus Christ. His divinity won out by a close margin.
gay is choice not god creation :P
***** Gay is not a choice,you are wrong - homosexuality is not a sin.
***** Have no idea what you are talking about, but I do now homosexuality is not a sin, and is not wrong.
***** Any proof of what? Do you have any proof the Bible is the word of God?
***** Prove the Bible is a gift from God please.
FYI - God created homosexuals or they would not be on His earth. Why do you question God's work?
I love how people cherry pick which parts of the Bible say "no gay" and ignore that the context is within idolatry or gang rape or adultery or something. God made me gay and I'm proud of it, God loves me the way I am and I will honor Him with my marriage whether it's to a man or a woman. I AM NOT BROKEN. GOD DOESNT MAKE MISTAKES.
But wouldn't you say that you're cherry-picking as well? Even if someone else is doing something wrong and cherry picking does not mean it's okay for you to do. Not trying to be disrespectful or anything.
@@yodaonweedandmushrooms9566 Well you can't bring an argument why it's not ok.
What annoys me the most, is that you come on here typing away thinking you know it all, when clearly you haven't even read one bloody page of that book!
@@ProjectCreativityGuy96 I don't really need to justify myself to you, but for any other young gay Christians who stumble across this: I have been saved for most of my life and have studied the Bible for years. The only part where God directly says "no gay" is in Leviticus, where He was establishing the Jewish law, and then Jesus said He was the fulfillment of the law and the old law was null and void. My point is that a lot of Christians cherry pick the rulebook part of the Bible, ignoring that it was written for a very different culture more than two thousand years ago, and then ignore the whole love and acceptance part which HAS to be more important.
Do you think I could get your email or discord to ask about this and the bible? I have alot of questions about god and the bible from your perspective.
Thank you! I feel so much better! 🙏
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@@taylorthomas2852 Alright, though it's replying not texting. i'll stop.
@@taylorthomas2852 She came off a bit mean, a bit uncalled for. dont think the whole community is like that, though. Its important to not marginalize a whole group on one's actions.
@@Sashasangels what
@@dkwhattooupload3424 yeah my only character traits are angry, sleepy, hungry and gay as hell.
Muslim here, I agree with you brother and to all my brothers and sisters who are Christians I wish you the best luck.
So you are as much of a homophobic bigot as he is.
@@Nonalhomophobie Mad? LOL
@@Nonalhomophobie So, if I'm following my religion I'm homophobic now? Ok
@@rosiepie8213 You can follow your religion, and not be homophobic. Those are not mutually exclusive. Did you know there are gay Muslims for instance ?
@@Nonalhomophobie Chances of having a gay muslim is BELOW 1% Come to Somalia and any muslim country and you gonna get your head cut off
2,476 people don't care what God says...smh....church we gotta live/do better by living and breathing out God's word
demonstrate that your god exists and we will care.
demonstrate that George Washigton, Enstein, or Darwin exist and I will show you how my God exist
are you really this stupid? youre comparing a fictional being with real people? im sure youre one of those idiots who are gonna say that they dont believe that my boyfriend exists just because they havent seen him. do you understand that that make your god claims even more retarded? do you understand that you have even less reason to believe in god? we have records that prove that they existed. god has the bible and its contradictions and factual errors. you cant possibly be serious.MarlowDub116
dayweed85 immaturity at its finest, i called you no names and you try and go off. You can attest to the assistance of your boyfriend. hold on, you said "we have records that prove they existed." we have over 9,000 manuscripts that say that the people of the bible existed and the writing of Josephus, St. Agustin and many more philosophers. List your contradictions and i bet you i can refute each one of them. The bible has no contradictions if kept in context.
He's staring into my soul it's creeping me tf out
I love your profile pic |-/
@@wickedness_666 u should be avoiding the devils. They want YOU to stay away from God and u don't even know a lot about Him. God loves you and you should know more about Him than what u already know. It's between u and Him that u need to build that relationship. God is good, all the time!!
@@moanapooh9726 God, and I are good. We take shots, and drink beer on occasions. He's a cool dude to kick it with. All I'm saying is, he needs to not stare into anyone's soul, especially young girls, because that's unacceptable. He knows better than to do that. If that's the case, then he shall be facing rape charges. If God's like that, please stay away from him. Stay away from disgusting child predators, and rapists. Those fuckers deserve eternal hell. Always, run away from those morons reguardless. Fuck rapists! They deserve life behind bars!
@@wickedness_666 Yeah true but we should stay away from evil but doing something back to them with evil won't change the fact they'll stop being evil. We should stay away from EVIL, bc anyone can be a rapist, so we should be aware and do better to help someone keep out of that:) And no one deserves hell, bc we all can change and we All can be evil and we chose to or not but God would show us the way to understand where is better to go. He has many plans for us...If you need help getting better to know God, just go to a quiet place and pray to Jesus and say, " Jesus come inside my heart" and let it sync in. Just only think about God and his grace when u pray to him. God bless!😙
You creep me out
Me in this coment section: *woops I'm gay 🏳️🌈 🏳️🌈 oop- there goes my pride flags 🏳️🌈 🏳️🌈 🏳️🌈 haha oop-* Haha
Read Romans 1 plsss...pride flags arent gna help us before God 😓😩
@@rapidkid11 Your God does not exist.
Non à l'homophobie oh He doesn’t? Ah thanks for telling me that...didnt realise, my bad 😂 why are you here btw?
@@rapidkid11 To fight against homophobia, which pushes innocent LGBTs and some heterosexuals too to suicide, especially the young ones.
Non à l'homophobie ah thats noble cause for sure - Christians arent homophobic though so I think you’re in the wrong place 😅 we love homosexuals and all people - we just believe its wrong cos the Bible says so, if you have a problem with that, take it up with God - we dnt make the rules! 😂
My friend snitches on me because i said you cant be gay and it says that in the bible and he got angry on me but i dont care because i love god and my bestfriends say that om right
I thought this was all about acceptance! I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THIS!
me too, this is sad
It's about denying yourself. Jesus said pick up your cross and follow me not continue in sin and remain the same and follow me.
@@josed5441 your comment inspired me to have so much lesbian sex rn
@@josed5441 cool . Now you deny yourself of str8 sex/romance, forever, if ya like those things cos I am just that insightless as to suggest that
I thought that it was about acceptance too :(
Hello siblings
First of all, I'm Greek Orthodox. Second, the Orthodox church in Greece condemns homosexuality and that infuriates me the most. I tried to support those people and make them have a different image of God and His church because some do tell me awful things about Him....In this video I was a bit more confused..... If anyone's homosexual and doesn't give up to lustful things, is he going to be saved or punished? I really do try to tell them that God accepts them the way they are and that they're not going to burn.....
Edit: I take back what I typed and may all homosexuals return to the loving hug of Orthodoxy, amen ☦️
Honesexuality like premarital sex and other non married monogamous sexual acts is against church doctrine and what is said in the Bible. For example while it’s natural for a straight person to lust afters multiple people of the opposite sex it’s forbidden in the Bible. Homosexuality specific may homosexual lust or partnership is against the Bible just like other non monogamous marital sexual activity.
@@TheAmericanCatholic how about homosexual love? do you think all homosexuals do is engage in sexual acts? 🙄 for your information and future reference, we love our partners and we see them as persons and not just objects to gratify us sexually.. we form emotional attachment and bond with each other, we share moments together, we fight, we cry, we make up and care for each other's well-being, in short, we love each other dear ♥️🌈 it's beautiful and don't say otherwise or say that it is just lust or sexual acts.. I hope all of you realize that and be enlightened. 😌
@@terminusadquem6981 Live how you are going to live the Bible is still against homosexuality. If your not a Christian that’s fine. But if you are a Christian the Bible is against homosexuality and many other things
@@TheAmericanCatholic The Bible is not against homosexuality, it is not a person. It is you whotwist it as an excuse to hate.
@@TheAmericanCatholic knowledge , shallow as it is, and no knowing: GTHO!
Considering how big the universe is, I hope God has something more important to take care of than some homo sapiens sexual preferences.
I don't understand why religions making gender an issue when temperament and character are more important about a person not gender itself...