First time using 4K, HDR and FreeSync! Worth it? Ft BenQ EW3270U
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I'll post any updates and FAQ here! So the Monitor is back-lit, I'm not sure how I messed this up, it's written on the box. The monitor has scaling options, so for low resolutions you can fill the entire screen, keep the aspect ratio, but also have 1:1 pixel mapping which is nice. It does take a bit long to detect a new signal when you turn on your PC.
Phil, thank you for showing the important highlights of this display. For what you get, I think the price is very reasonable.
I wanna buy exactly same monitor, but only 30 hz at 10 bit 444 dp? Benq pdf from their website state support uhd monitors 4k 444 10 bit 60 hz input for displayport, and no support 60 hz for hdmi. However, other table shows 60 hz available through 'pc timing' and not available through 'video timing'.
Could it be cable/drivers related issue in your case?
(sorry for my english)
I'm getitng this monitor, but saw this review after buying and got worried about the 10bpc @ 30hz thing. Looking into it, this was an issue on AMD cards, and was fixed with a driver update on May 15th 2019. Everyone should be able to get full 4k 10bpc 444 at 60hz now on this monitor.
@@Ohmz27 thank you for this, i was worried also
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From what I know about the Freesync Low Framerate Compression is that you should be able to bring down the Freesync Range using CRU to around 30Fps, which then enables it.
It's a shame that many manufacturers actually have panels that support a Freesync Range this low, but it has to be done manually. My Dell Monitor (Only 1080p) works fine like this, but otherwise I'm stuck with a similar 40-75Fps Range for Freesync.
I've been seeing a lot about this Benq Monitor so cheers for the very in-depth review... Hopefully I can find a cheap one used eventually and then i may end up with one.
Thanks, that gives me something to try out :) I did quite a bit of online searching, but you know that often goes with lots of dead-ends. AFAIK the max range must be 2.5x of the min range for LFC to work, so with a 60 Hz panel that makes it difficult. I will try it out with my next project, the monitor is now deployed in my lab :D
I have a 144hz panel that supports Freesync up to 90 hz.
I find it is the best of both worlds, I use 144hz when I can maintain a very high framerate, otherwise I drop it to 90hz and enable freesync. You should cap the framerate to 1 frame less than your refresh rate, otherwise it may cause issues, like flickering(depending on manufacturer).
@@rich1051414 I thought it was 3 frames below?
so is the freesync/gsync can be 30-60hz now?
@@wallmachine8780 It depends. Keep backing it off if you have flickering. Usually 1 frame lower works, sometimes I need more.
About the small text issue, i think its really with the resolution X monitor size. This seemed to work well with both windows and linux.
I made a rule to define the "ideal" resolution of a monitor for reading text (for people who dont have any vision problems), and its like that:
The first digits of the resolution define the size of monitor in inches:
1920x1080 (19, so between 18 to 20 inches is ideal, smaller the text starts to get small, and if larger than 21, things start to look less sharp).
1366x768 (13, so from 12 to 14 inches is ideal, 15 it starts to loose sharpness, and lower it becomes too small)
So a 15inch laptop would have the ideal resolution at around 1600x900. A 4k monitor should be something like a 40 inches television.
I could be wrong or this be too based on my personal taste, but everybody i asked seemed to agree after some tests, and for example showing my 1080p 13inch zenbook prime Ux31a wich is awfull to read stuff, then showing my 768p 15.6 inch dell 15r 5537 wich look bad and really stretched out, not sharp..
Just got this monitor, absolutely stunned by it, I have to admit I was very sceptical buying a name like BenQ, but wow, im so glad I did, one thing I did pick up on was, it was running at 59hz out of the box, and like you said it wouldnt do 10bit colours at 4:4:4 format, however, if you go into your display settings and change it to 60hz, it will do 10bit at 4:4:4, via display port and one of the HDMI ports too, you can also change the freesync range using CRU software, free download.
Good to hear that you're happy. It's my main monitor and I edit all videos with it.
How were you able to do this? I had no luck changing the range and crashed my computer.
He disagrees with you on video!
@@philscomputerlab Are you agreeing with him? If so, you should edit the video.
@@philscomputerlab Wow, you said you preferred IPS.
You are all over the place regarding viewing angles and whether a problem if just one person looking direct? If one person, then viewing angles ok? At what angle do colors begin to shift? Thanks.
Biggest problem with this is your problem with color shifting? Why is that a problem if not viewed at an angle? Thanks.question never addressed.
Please clarify? Thanks!
Why did you need to go out and buy a display port the cable?! You just said a few seconds earlier it came with a display port cable. Did you misspeak? Thanks.
Hi Phil! This would be a great opportunity to test DOS games (320x200, etc) scaled on a 4K panel. I'm hoping that good scaling options and very high resolution will make 4K panels the best choice over aging CRTs for retro enthusiasts.
Doesn't have VGA >< RIP
@@philscomputerlab You can try an upscaler with a displayport output.
I have a 55" 4K HDR, 200 Local dimming zones, Sharp (brand) VA panel coming tomorrow. Stupid excited. My PC is that of a living room setup, and this is a full 12 inches larger than the standard 43" panels I've been used to. The HDR and local dimming zones has me really geeked.
Very nice!
Finally a reviewer who talks about streaming and RUclips!!! (But then confusong whether he is referrig just to watching YT via XBOX app and not brower from desktop!! This is so confusing!)
I agree with your brother. I still have a "old" plasma TV for the same reason. It's not only the awesome black. You have a wide greyscale variation in dark content. On most tv i have seen this greyscale content gets just black...
I have the 65" Samsung 8500F. Was awarded best TV by AVSFORUM for two years in a row. Panasonic shut down its plasmas about a year before Samsung. Tech at Best Buy said it was as good as OLED. Not sure carries over to PCs. Is the better blacks offset by color shifting even if in front of the PC? So many different opinions!
Hello is this monitor any good with photo editing via photoshop etc ? Good review btw !
Can't wait for the follow up video. Thin client retro gaming / multimedia in 4K. Please already! I've had a few problems here and there with retro gaming and the biggest one, as you said, tends to be text scaling - I'm talking to you Kingdoms of Amulur (I love that game).
I think I'll ask for help with emulators. Been out of the game and would love someone to zip me up a test package of current emulators to try out, which are ready to go.
I am willing to spend over a grand for a good monitor, but is there another montior besides this that has better image quality for surfing the web and streaming? Thanks!!!
Time to test some retro gamings on it.... Quake/duke 3d... 😎
Duke Nukem in 4K - HAIL TO THE KING BABY! :D
no Phil, thanks to you for not using fortnite in those tests, I don't like that game for benchmarks because It doesn't give me a good idea of the capabilities of a PC, the game looks cartoony and I don't know which other games I can play based only on that game
Want to play Fortnite?
not at all
LOL! It bloody sucks but so does that pubg.
Good review, I don't really care about HDR or freesync, but was wondering how bad the colour shift is when head-on ( I have a calibrator ). I am looking for a 4k monitor for Unity, blender, and perhaps Photoshop. I already have an IPS screen that I can use for colour correction in a dual-screen set-up, I am looking for screen real estate...How are the greyscales on this monitor?
I've got a 31.5" 2.5K IPS (16:10) screen, and an expensive one at that, and the black level/contrast are definitely a noticeable downside. On the plus side, I went from a 10 year old 24" 2K IPS (also 16:10) screen with CFL backlight to this and was blown away at the difference. The tube was definitely wearing out, so colour rendition and brightness were definitely suffering. And I was glad the higher pixel density didn't make text and stuff annoyingly small - to get a similar PPI on a 4K screen, you'd need a 46" panel, which would way too huge for most people (although a friend does use a 55" 4K TV as his main monitor, but he's really old and has both driving and reading glasses, so I guess he has an excuse... kinda).
Look at how dark the screen is when turned off. No IPS panel regardless of cost can beat the image quality of this monitor.
Yea contrast and blacks is clear strength of VA.
You are EVERYWHERE
Sadly I sold off my cheap 4K 40"+ tv (by Sony .. had great gaming specs of all things .. $499 CAN) and GTX 1080 Ti for so called fun and well I regret the decision but understand why I did it at the time. 4K gaming is awesome .... Just Do It! Will be doing it again in the future.
Hey man great review! I'm planning to buy this monitor and this will be an upgrade for me from 1080p so can you clear a few of my doubts?
Q1) Can I use this monitor with a GTX 1050ti. I know sounds dumb but I don't primarily plan to use it for gaming. It's mainly for graphic designing and some video editing. So since Photoshop and Premiere mainly rely on CPU and not GPU, will I face any problems running it on my GTX 1050ti?
Q2) I don't plan to game a lot but I may use it sometimes for gaming. So I was wondering if I can set the resolution of games to 1080p and fullscreen because my gpu can handle 1080p. Can you try this setting on a few games on your monitor and let me know if the games look normal or is there some kind of blur due to downscaling or 1080p on 32 inch screen...if there's any issue do let me know if it looks decent or just unplayable.
That would be it. I would really really appreciate it if you could answer my questions. Thank you :)
Yes it works just fine with the 1050 Ti! You can set resolution to 1080 to get better gaming performance. The image looks fine, but a little bit blurry because the panel is 4K.
@@philscomputerlab oh okayy thanks man!
@@philscomputerlab He is upgrading from 1080p!
The lack of consistent display scaling (also an issue in Linux) is a major reason why I probably won't get a 4K monitor for quite some time. It sort of amazes me actually that Microsoft hasn't fixed it yet given how obviously bad it is.
Of course the other part is simply that I'm very cheap and can't imagine spending over ~$150 for any monitor and wouldn't buy it exclusively for entertainment. Also the space I have available really limits the display to the 17"-20" range. Thankfully, ebay and Amazon both sell used 17" monitors, and you're likely to find someone locally who just recently upgraded and is willing to part with it for $5-$20.
I have a ryzen 1700x with 2 gtx 1080s, 16gb 3200 ram, on an x370 board hooked to a 55" 4k60 tv. The computer uses 400-670 watts when gaming, and there are still a lot of games I own (~30%, mostly newer fps games) that are better played scaled back to 1440p with higher texture detail. If you want to get the best performance in games at 4k, you have to leave windows scaling at 100%. It is impossible to read anything, and the taskbar becomes a 1/2" stripe at the bottom of the screen lol. Unless you have something like 1080ti cards in sli, or a new rtx 2080ti, reliable 4k gaming is unachievable. Even at that, win10 scaling sucks ass, and microsoft needs to fix their shit if they want to stay relevant. My rig is very respectable, but even then... Decent, reliable, affordable 4k60 is still a ways away.
Monitor versus PC? Are they not the same thing? Please explain. Thanks.
The pc is your Computer, the mainboard and so on. The Monitor is the where you look at.
@@MrBreakdancer97 thanks. Gets confusing when throw in monitor, console and pc.For example, you talk about disadvantages of turning on HDR on PC because then HDR in content not HDR. I take it just. It turn off HDR on PC, just turn on in monitor and great? And have read where this monitor will actually auto switch on HDR when such content appears. Also confusing is early on you mention advantages of a VA panel....just not for group of people, and how Netflix. and streaming video looks great, then later in video you have concern with color shifting! Polar opinions to me. Could you clarify? Thanks!
@@MrBreakdancer97"regarding HDR, tested with PC and XBOX, and expereince with console was excellent, on the PC not so much, but that not a problem with the montior, more an issues with Windows" Wow, that is really confusing for me. Could you or others translate using just the term monitor, computer, and XBOX? Is he saying that HDR is good for XBOX, but not for video on PC; e.g., watching RUclips video with brower is bad, but if download app to XBOX and watch from XBOX, then great? Is he just talking games on PC, or video in general? Nextlfix looks great on console but not so much with PC? What does that mean? Then he states that HDR being on is not good because picture bad for nonHDR content. I thought that HDR only came on when it detected an HDR signal? So you should not enable HDR on Windows excpet when watching HDR content, and you turn off HDR on monitor because will come on only when HDR content is present? Then he talks steep hardware requirements, Is he talking computer or XBOX? Wow, appeciate context! At 8:45, what is he talking about? Is he just referrng to games? Want to use RGB 4:4:4? Huh? I thought this monitor used DCI-P3? if web surfing or if download video for playback then not 10 bit color? Then he talks AMD but my PC has NVIDIA....so does not appy? Or is he talking about XBOX? This is so confusing! Thanks!
I agree with you on the black reproduction. Makes a HUGE difference in image quality in my opinion. As for the monitor overall, I'll freely admit that it's much less expensive than what I was expecting. But it's still not quite there yet for me. I'm not saying it's overpriced at all, I'm just not quite comfortable to make that kind of a drop on a monitor yet. But they are starting to get there. Anyway, great review! Thanks for putting it out there.
Thanks for the feedback!
I have an LG ultrawide Freesync monitor, 2560x1080 with a Freesync range of 48Hz to 75Hz and an RX480. I do wish I had gotten a 2k monitor but they were too expensive at the time. The biggest advantage would be having DOSBox running in a window at perfect aspect ratio. (You should do a video and show that off with the Sound Canvas emulator off to the side). My ultrawide is on a monitor arm that I slide out of the way to access my 1600x1200 monitor for DOSBox or retro DOS/Win9x gaming because it has a VGA port and my ultrawide does not. Freesync works great for me. I can run Rise of the Tomb Raider at ultra with the shadow quality one tick lower from the top and even though it dips below 60FPS and floats around mid-50s, you would never know it thanks to Freesync.
Wait! not making sense now. You are saying seeing color shift when right in front rather than the side? Did you mean to say that? Thanks!
VA panels show accurate colours when viewed straight on. But as you look into the corners, the colours can change a bit.
@@philscomputerlab Even if looking straight on? If so, how bad? Great picture quality is my concern.... for web sites; RUclips; streaming and seems IPS too washed out and have glow problems. Better VA panel for me? VA panel out there that more expensive that has better HDR; e.g., at least 500 nits brightness? Thanks!
@@philscomputerlab but you concluded would for IPS because of color shifting! Do you either not sit in front of the monitor or have group of viewers? Thanks.
Then you say bad on PC? So web surfing not good? Please clarify.
Are the Blacks really good in this monitor? I'm so fed up with ips glow (greyish blacks)
Yes, VA panels have higher contrast with better blacks. OLED is even better.
I wanna buy it for the PS5 and wanna Play Call of Duty and Wazone but also GTA or Assassins Creed and Spider Man. Is This Monitor the right one?
It should work well with the PS5! The video is now 2 years old, so best to check if there any updated models...
@@philscomputerlab No, none there.
@@jeffzest8393 there’s benq ew3280u
@@bigjawcat9605 No, that is an IPS panel; therefore, inherently inferior image quality. The 3270u has the best image quality of any monitor at any price for entrainment purposes. I bought it.
@@jeffzest8393 anyways i wanna buy a 32 4k monitor, what do u recommend
I'm also still rocking a 65" panny plasma in my living room... only thing that I've seen come close are the new OLED panels but those are mega $$$
Great review! Quick question: how does 1080p content look on a 4K screen? I'm thinking of RUclips videos in particular.
It looks ok, but not as razor sharp as native resolution material.
its a 2 to 1 change, should be ZERO difference
rasz Yea unfortunately it doesn't quite work like that.
Which 32 " inch would you suggest for many hours of music production?
Thanks for sharing.
F8500 plasma owner myself. Phosphor 4 life!!!
Though I will admit, Dolby Vision and HDR movies on those Sony OLED panels has me enticed.
Also have the Samsung F8500 plasma. Best Buy rep said its picture quality is as good as OLED.
It all looks amazing on my 720p laptop!
Lol... let alone with RUclipss compression...
My 24" Eizo FG2421 with VA panel has over 5000:1 contrast and is really this good, tftcentral test and review confirmed it. And that makes it a problem, I want to upgrade to a 32" but they're all just 3000:1 contrast, so it will feel like a downgrade in that regard sadly...
This monitor doesn’t support freesync? It’s the reason why i just purchased the monitor. It’s promoted on the website.
Who says that?
So... This review is a retro-review in 20 years? :P
It will be remember when we only had 4k way back in the day.
10 years
Sad to hear about the color shifting issues. Is there any way you could film them? I wonder if that's why a lot of VA panels today are curved. Maybe that helps with the gamma shift issues.
Just do not look at from an angle. Should not be a problem unless multiple people watching.
@@jeffzest8393 Or you like to look at your screen from multiple positions around your room which I often do while exercising.
I'm very happy with my BenQ monitor - - a XL2730, 1440p -- which is ideal for retro-game scaling and resolutions; the one I wrote a review for on Vogons. It was only about 100$ cheaper than this 4K one when I purchased it a few years ago. I'm surprised that some of the great features like the S-Switch"Puck/Scroll Wheel" for navigating the OSD and creating macros. Also the XL2730 has a very flexible stand with tilt AND height adjustment -- I expected to see this on a premium 4K monitor.
Yea I tried a 1600x1200 game, and it was tiny in 1:1 pixel mode :D
It can't go 10-bit 4:4:4 60 Hz? BenQ fucked something up seriously, it's a true 10-bit panel and it should be able to go 60 Hz trough Display Port.
Do you noticed on it vertical banding on grayscale backgruonds ?
Do you plan to test a 144hz monitor?
I want to use it with mac mini m1,want to run on 4k .should i go for benq pd2700u or buy this ew3270u?
i now have a similar model which is ew277HDR,it feels nice to use
I am using 1440p 144hz Gsync and will probably stick with that until well past the point GPU's can actually run every game at 144fps with max settings (still can't do this with a 1080ti). I think a good monitor is a worthwhile purchase, as I think most of us go through several PC upgrades with the same monitor so may as well get a good one!
I think G-Sync is a good investment. It costs more, but it seems to "just work" and without compromises.
PhilsComputerLab yeah seems to be from what I have seen. I have a Nvidia card so had to go with Gsync of course. I used to get sore eyes on a 60hz panel after a while but 144hz seems to be much easier on my eyes so I can play games for much longer. A good monitor is well worth the expense if you enjoy gaming!
A bit late to the party, but what about USB C? does the monitor support 10bit over USB-C?
I couldn't test as I don't have a device with such an output.
Lack of 10 bpc in 60 Hz 4k RGB is a bummer, but I guess it's the same with most displays at the moment. Also, I wonder what's talking so long with OLED.
LG is a monopoly in big OLED panels and pretty munch all go to TV's. Samsung not believed in big OLEDs and never invested in to them - now they have to market their QLEDs.
Mini-LED is coming - will be better than OLED, without organics degradation and way better G2G times.
VA is supposed to have IPS equivalent viewing angles / colour shifting. Are you sure you're not refering to brightness shifting / uniformity? It sounds more likely since this is edge lit.
I think that's splitting hairs over terminology. Look I have screens with each technology, apart from OLED and it stood out to me right after turning it on.
@@philscomputerlab Yes, but only at an angle, right?
Another contradictory item in video.
Well 2 years later, do you still recommend this monitor or find other at this price range?
I have sold it since! Used it for a while and was happy with it :) I don't know about the current market.
@@philscomputerlab Was your main montior, even though you said preferred IPS. All over the place on viewing angles. Not clear on diffrence between using XBOX and browsers. Confusing on color depth ansd AMDS versus NVIDEA. At first I thought this video was good; now I think it is just confusing, contradictory and really needs a lot of clarifying. Then recommend lower resolution and 27" monotor!!! Talk about apples and oranges. What monitor are you now using?
Would you have a link of the demo video you are showing?
Will you test some retro games on that monitor someday?
As it happens, I have a BenQ monitor right in front of me, and it's a decent enough budget model, and at 24" the biggest that will fit in the available space. I don't think I've even played a game at 1080 resolution, yet. This 4k unit would be way overkill for my needs, but I appreciate the detail you go into.
This is the exact screen I have in my crosshairs, let's hope the review is positive. And yes I'm writing this before watching.
3:49 to 3:58 Is this top gear? For some reason it kinda remember's me of it.
Kindly share your cpu compilation like, the processor,RAM,HDD/SDD graphics????
Extraordinary review.
I might be your brother, I still use my old 50" Panasonic Plasma TV. I won't ever upgrade, I'll repair this thing before I buy new.
You're putting yourself at a disadvantage.
@@youwhatmadeidk that's okay
Do you have a racing wheel?
I don't! I think I have that PC XBox controller somewhere, I should try it out some day. For the filming, I just use that wireless keyboard.
so that HDR button is only for non-HDR content to emulate it? If I have a HDR game or just want windows to display HDR all the time do I need to turn anything on besides Windows HDR in Display Settings and in the game?
It auto detects a HDR signal and the On Screen Display will show an icon!
@@philscomputerlab so no need to turn on hdr on pc?
@@philscomputerlab Not what you said in video. You complained that when turned on HDR in Windows bad picture. So what do you mean? What do you put in Windows? You can turm off in Windows and montior will autodect wtih button off? Please clarify.
Please clarify.
I'd love too use atrise lutcurve with this
The button is for non HDR content so if I'm playing a game that is actually HDR should I just leave the button off?
Yup!
@@philscomputerlab My understanding is leave off since do not want emulated HDR. When the monitor detects HDR it will turn on for you? Correct? Thanks.
and my benq monitor died few days ago :(
there is external program that manage font scaling(since win10 one is trash)
Can free sync works on nvidea graphic cards and how much hdr does this monitor has
please reply to grow your channel
john smith Yes but only on Pascal cards or higher. Its called adaptive sync and its works great
Monoprice makes the best cables. You can get a quality 4K HDR 60hz HDMI cable for like $5.
Their Wii cables are hot trash compared to Madcatz. I haven't bought another monoprice cable since
I'm trying to figure out why it needs DP 1.4. You can accomplish 4k HDR on a 1.2 port.
Only 4K 24hz on 1.4 i think no?
@@assassin3003 ? You can do 8k 60hz on DP 1.4. 1.2 can handle 4k 60hz.
@@DruuzilTechGames Not what he is asking.
Use display port to get 10 bit rgb full with hdr ;)
@Rich 33 No, he said he went out an bought a new display port cable.
I'm under the impression that this monitor is made more for content creators than gamers really, but why BenQ put freesync in it makes this product a little confusing. How accurate are the aRGB and sRGB calibration out of the box? 5 ms response time is good tho, but the freesync range really blows 😓 if a panel is made for media consumption and content creation, film filmed in 25 FPS is the norm so that should be the lowest frame rate of the monitor and the lowest target for freesync IMO
I can address the issue with watching movies, which often are 23.xx or 24 FPS, but PAL stuff can be 30 FPS or even 50. What I do is simply set this refresh rate in Windows. That gives you smooth video. AFAIK I don't know if media players can even work with FreeSync. The 50 Hz FreeSync support does come in handy with PAL Emulators, like an Amiga for example. With the colors, I can only refer to the reviews I read, and the consensus is that only small tweaks are required if you calibrate it with a professional device.
I, for one, know that i'd LOVE a couple of these in my home recording studio :)
RGB is old; rely on DCI-P3 which is superor and this at 95%.
comming soon: Retro Gaming on 4K
Yea that's quite possible. Half-Life 2 and Dirt 3 looked so good in 4K, so I have to try out some more games.
ThyBonesConsumed True, this is likely an issue with most older games.
Doom using GZDoom?
I have a samsung ue65mu7070 to view youtube in 4k on. to
Question Does xbox actually render in 4k while gaming or is only capable of playing 4k content? :) same goes for ps4
The One S doesn't. It just upscales to 4K. But it will play Netflix or Blu-Ray in native 4K.
Some current console games use adaptive resolution, that means internally the rendering engine changes resolution on the fly depending on how demanding a scene is so while the display will always receive a 4K signal, it's partly upscaled. The YT channel Digital Foundry has detailed videos about that topic, search for "digital foundry dynamic resolution".
What is the diffrence between 4K gaming and playing 4K content?
@@philscomputerlab upscales what?
seen a few people unbox this the last few days
You're right, I can see 6 videos in the last week. Must be a large campaign they are running.
Are you a German who has spend a little while in Australia?
Nein :)
You can extend free sync range(33hz-75 or more ), there is a complete guide.... Google it'
Just tried 35 and it blanks out as soon it touches 40.
Why no information about response time?
Whow much those it cost the Ben Q ?
can you play in 1ms with 4K&HDR?
Still can't believe we haven't gotten decently priced OLED monitors yet. (And it feels like I've made this comments for 3 years now...)
thanks for the really detailed video. it was a great support for my decision. the BenQ is ordered :-)
Did you order this same model? How is it?
@@arjunup617 I can recommend IT for Work and gaming. But If you are more gaming you have to think about another one. For me its the best Mix and price/Performance joice
@@topf2903 Thank you Tobias! Yes, I was looking for rare moderate gaming (Xbox series X). And sometimes office work stuff, when i have a need for two screens to make work easy. And mostly in the long run use it as a Secondary or additional TV(with firestick) for any small room. With this screen size i don't think we have any other much options in the market.
If you enable Vsync you wont have tearing at frame cap 60fps mate :D freesync range therefore works in between (40,60] Hz.
No that's not quite how it works.
Lol
I went with Samsung U32H850 - VA panel with QLED backlight, no HDR but it has better colors and angles (got video of that on my channel). One con: it's quite more expensive as positioned as pro monitor.
but want HDR...why pay more for less?
@@jeffzest8393 better colors, HDR outside of movies don't work how it should - Windows is still not fixed.
@@LordAlacornReviews say 4k HDR on RUclips look fantasic!!
Don't buy this monitor for HDR. Only hits 300 nits, which ain't worth it. If you can at least get a monitor that hits 550 nits in HDR. That should be the bare minimum.
Appreciate the feedback!
recommend us a model
@@adriannasyraf3534 Well for console gaming I've had two monitors in mind. The Acer PE320QK or LG 32UD99. Both are 4k @60hz and have HDR 10 support (550nits max). Went with the LG because I found it cheaper. Already on its way.
the acer, lg, and the reviewed benq are in totally different price bracket...
The LG is in a completely different league here in the uk, its nearly twice the price of the Benq, £450 for the benq and £850 for the LG
My FreeSync also go from 40 to 60 which is simply not low enough to be useful IMO
Awesome
Picture settings for this monitor? I use xbox one x
I use the default settings. And HDR Cinema for HDR
@@philscomputerlab ok... i use custom mode for sdr and cinema hdr for hdr... for me is a good monitor an d you what do tou think about it?
FYI, you can modify the Freesync range of a lot of monitors using CRU (Custom Resolution Utility).
I have a video here that shows how: ruclips.net/video/zwkuPM4HM50/видео.html
Not sure how well it'll work with this monitor, but you may want to try it. I've been able to increase the FreeSync range on a couple other panels.
hello someone who can tell or give some details of your configuration for Xbox one X ..
This is a terrible monitor for HDR, please don't judge HDR content based on this monitor. It's horribly inaccurate in HDR mode and can't produce nearly enough brightness.
@Logic I guess all the movie and game studios want to burn your eyes out then because they're aiming for 4000nits or 10000nits. I strive for an accurate image, and an accurate image requires the amount of nits that film/game studios are coding into their films/games. Now, there's practically nothing on the market that hits those numbers yet, but 1000nits is very achievable. This crappy thing, however, only gets up to a paltry 300nits.
Some expensive monitors only have 300; 1000 is too bright for many.
Professional reviews disagree. At normal viewing distance, do not want brighter. Further, almost all monitors around 300-400 nits, even those that cost $2,00O. Monitor at 1,0000 nits is way to bright. And even if the IPS panel is 1,000 nits contrast is way, way, way below what need for true HDR.
@@Diwwah Professional reviews disagree. At normal viewing distance, do not want brighter. Further, almost all monitors around 300-400 nits, even those that cost $2,00O. Monitor at 1,0000 nits is way to bright. And even if the IPS panel is 1,000 nits contrast is way, way, way below what need for true HDR.
Yuck, when I put my monitor in 4:2:2 mode, when I look at text, my eyes bleed from color fringing... that is unacceptable.
Yea that's exactly the issue!
@@kush1000ful Yea it was configured for 1.4!
@@philscomputerlab Huh? Is that a problem even if viewing head on?!
Were you looking at an angle? Review conflicting. Says fine when not viewing at an angle, and then says problems, but does not clarify if this was just at angles.
@@jeffzest8393 No, not just at angles. It's like the color separates out from text on the edges. You should be able to force your own monitor into 4:2:2 if you want to see how it looks yourself.
When I use pendulum my screen goes black
On a side note for retro gaming on newer screens, I picked up one of these cheap vga+audio to HDMI (not this one exactly but it was similar off ebay) www.amazon.co.uk/Topop-Adapter-Convertor-Converter-support-New-Version-VGA-HDMI/dp/B00K808RVQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1542544210&sr=8-6&keywords=hdmi+adapter+vga. If nothing else it makes swapping the cables easier and playing those old games on the big screen a cake walk.
tfw you have a 34" 3440x1440p Freesync monitor but have a 1080ti and can't use Freesync. #firstworldproblems-_-
If you used the Xbox to test 4K gaming you were not seeing a 4K resolution. The Xbox One S is not capable of 4K. You need the Xbox One X for 4K gaming
Yea for gaming you're right. I mostly used it to test with a Blu-Ray and also 4K Netflix.
@@philscomputerlab What were you using for RUclips? You seem to be very inforemd, but you really need to redo this video to make a ton of things clear, and to correct some admitted mistakes.
HDR seems not to spec with this monitor.
Is this a true 10 bit or 8bit+frc?
Hmm didn't I mention this in the video? I can't remember but I believe it's 8 Bit + FRC.
@@philscomputerlab So at least does it have multizone backlights?
Almost EVERY monitor, even very expensive ones, are 8bit+frc.
@@philscomputerlab Yes you didm but your comments do not relect what you said in the video. Please edit. BenQ just released a ton of these, and best VA panel on the market. Best monitor, period, for 2018 for PC Magazine.
So 10bit on this monitor is actually useless then? Kind of a selling point for me
Yea for content creation it is. But works great with BR movies.
@@philscomputerlab what about for gaming?
@@crushingit5128 Like explained in the video, you have to be in the right colour mode, then you will get 10 bit.
@@philscomputerlab Could you define content creation? I am only looking for what best for surfing net and streaming and reading text. Thanks.
@@kush1000ful Yes, on the color shifting he is all over the place. And monitor vs. PC? Do not know what he is talking about.
Half Live 2 at 4K with a RX 579? What about Forza 4? No way can that card play that game at 4K with decent frame rates.
It actually ran quite well with Medium Details preset! Around 30 to 40 FPS if I recall correctly.
Crank it up to max/ultra, and your probably hitting below 20.
Well of course...
Was a suggestion......... And perhaps a few other games for another video......
I'm able to run Forza 4 with Ultra settings - average of 46 FPS on my RX480, here is a benchmark result: imgur.com/a/HUKUXm6
So yes you can play modern games with decent enough framerate. :)
What's up Phil?
The light bleed on the right hand top side tho
Well then do not get IPS panel because worse.
@@jeffzest8393 I just got the ips version last week and I'm finding it to be perfect with zero light bleed!
@@rosco3866Ok, thanks. Which model did you get, and are you happy with it. Like the deep blacks but wary of reported color shifting on this model. Is the contrast in the IPS and it’s inky blacks ok with you? Thanks.
they achieved 10 Bit color Depth on the expense of 4:2:2 chroma subsampling?
... great ...
it's like buying a $1000 pair of headphones, only to use it with a cheap smartphone ಠ_ಠ
300 nits HDR!!1
It's a true 10-bit panel surprisingly, they fucked something up with the rest of the monitor.
It's a limitation of HDMI 2.0. Can only do 8-bit at 2160p at 60hz with 4:4:4 chroma subsampling.
@@kush1000ful Wow, another problem with this video. Do you have source? Do you have at 4:4:4 or 4:4:2? I take it 4:4:2 to give 10 bit color? Thanks!!
4:40 and then 0:16 - This Monitor is Backlight so
:O I have no idea how I got that mixed up. I meant that it doesn't have this full array back-light technology.
@@philscomputerlab Perhaps one or two monitors do, and they have own problems; being too bright. You are watching only from a a foot or two.