Tactical Solutions SB-X, Ruger 10-22 Takedown Accuracy Test
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Testing the Accuracy of the Tactical Solutions SB-X Barrel on a Ruger 10/22 Takedown rifle VS the factory Ruger threaded barrel.
Hogue thumbhole stock
Nightforce SHV 3x10 scope and Unimount Rings
Silencerco Spectre II Suppressor
Xsteel Ar500 targets.
CCI Standard Velocity
Power Custom Competion Magazine Release
Factory Trigger
Great your doing videos and learning. Hint shoot as a rule 200 rds breakin, then check accuracy. Don't let others down play your efforts. Learn and share, it's fun and expand your knowledge. Keep up your learning curve and videos! I'm 65 yrs old and been a master combat shooter since 1980. With that said anyone that Comments rude should be helpful instead. If your in North Georgia your invited to shoot at my range for free. I'll be glad to provide anything from 50 BMG to SPAS 12 with everything needed for free. We need to support each other, don't stop enjoying or learning. Thanks great video and fresh to see the two of you working as a team! Super!
Good fair comparison. It was nice that you kept it simple. Results are obviously in the favore of the non factory barrel.
The thing I learned about the takedown model is that you need to make sure that the adjustment knob is turned as tight as you can get it. Thats the nut that clicks as you turn it as it adjusts the tightness of the barrel to the receiver. Once I figured that out, I fell in love with that little rifle.
Exactly, that alone affects the accuracy big time. Also, it's important to charge the bolt a few times after reconnecting the barrel to seat everything properly. Love this gun and all 10-22's. My next one will be a charger, not sure on takedown or not.
Thanks for the advice
Great informative video. Don't listen to RUclips warriors who are probably air soft players in there parents basements. Keep up the good work
jesus christ, so many negative comments. I wanted to see if there was a big difference in accuracy between the two.
Thanks for the informative video. BTW, I have the same suppressor and love it!
Really enjoy your videos. You do a great job!
Wow that's the that's pretty remarkable of just out of the box and not really messing with the scope or doing anything crazy to make it more accurate Like trigger bolt stuff like that pretty neat thank you for the video
A nice weapon like that needs some high dollar ammo shot through it. Nice vid guys.
This is interesting, as I just posed the same question on the ruger forums about the 8" barrel integral gemtech and the SBX solutions 12" roughly length and accuracy. Its def encouraging.
I think you should revisit this test with some of the findings after trying different ammunition and torque settings. Otherwise I enjoyed your review...
We pretty much did but didnt video it. New Volquartsen Trigger and barrel. Shooting off a bipod with a sandbag. 10 shot groups consistently covered by a quarter and even a couple a dime could cover. The trigger and getting off of that table made a huge difference.
Fill a couple of bags with sand as a rifle rest. The Tipton vice is too flimsy to use as a shooting rest. That table may have a little too much wiggle also. Some weight added to the legs and on the table top would help. I know you already qualified the vice and table but you can improve by spending a little time getting things more stable. Both of those barrels are quite respectable. Improving on the Ruger factory barrel is a challenge. The biggest difference when replacing the Ruger barrel is usually weight or length but not a lot with accuracy.
It would be interesting to see the same test on a solid bench rest.
I have a couple Ruger 1022's and I've been running the local Spring Texas atomic arms bull barrels and they seem to be extremely accurate over the factory 18 inch little pencil barrel so I'm very happy with those the tactical solutions and kid barrels are a little pricey for me at this point
fsteddie95
what is the ballpark cost of one of these " bull barrels? )
I guess there are different manufacturers. do you recommend one?
I live in California so probably can't legally buy a threaded barrel.
I think this test is Void because I could see the whole set up move when you were shooting. The table and cleaning vise were moving.
great job!!
You don't lose accuracy with a shorter barrel. You're only loosing velocity.
Yup, i've had my 16" 10/22 ringing steel at 500 meters. These bull barrel Rugers are damn good.
the best money spent on a 10/22 is in a custom trigger then a good scope then maybe a barrel of course ammo is also a big factor as well as far as a stock goes what ever you like properly installed stocks don't have an effect on accuracy as long as they are not contacting the barrel
Well, more velocity will allow you to hold accuracy for a longer distance before going subsonic so you're kind of wrong
In a 22, you don't lose velocity as long as your barrel is 16 inches long. after that, you actually start to lose a little bit of velocity.
Until some point (14-16 in), a shorter barrel will actually give higher velocities in a 22.
Well myself I use a green mountain barrel and at 50 yards can lite a Ohio blue tip match with out any rest or table (prone positions ) get those skills up
Great video! Thank you.
Thanks for the video. I really want a 10/22 take down model in stainless steel (due to our climate). But, I'm an old retired geezer and can't be buying a gun and then dumping hundreds of dollars or more in a search for accuracy. If accuracy was the ultimate goal, I would start off with a decent bolt action rifle.
Also, your shooter there only tried one .22LR load. If I bought a new .22LR the first thing I'd do is buy up a box of about every type of ammo, and then start trying them all out. After some trial and error, I'd find the best ammo for that gun. Maybe you could find 2-3 that shot equally well. Then, I'd buy up a bunch of that, and be good to go. In a .22 LR sporter like the 10/22, I'd consider 1" or less at 50 yards to be okay.
I couldn't help but notice that when the video started you had the gun clamped down into the gun clamp, then when you started shooting he was not using it clamped. I think the groups would have been better had you taken out the human shifting errors. I would also like to know, how many types of ammo did you try? I'm sure you know different ammo gives different results. I do acknowledge you stated you just wanted to get a general comparison of the barrels and that one type of ammo. Still this is why I looked up this video and others like it. I plan on taking out my new 10/22 takedown today or this weekend with about 6 types of ammo, and am excited to see my own results. Ty for the video.
Great review thank you!
I’m really kind of surprised. No offense, but I would’ve expected something closer to one jagged hole.
So this tells me the factory barrel isn’t so bad that I need to invest in a new barrel.
Very nice video!
Thank you!
How about comparing the segmented ammo to the standard non-segmented ammo. Different range and acuracy variations please.
You guys do realize that your testing method is very flawed. One , all 22s as individuals even same exact make all respond to different ammo . You need to test ammo for each rifle /barrel.
Also no offense but those are terrible groups ... at 50 yards a good group would fit in a dime ... match would be one ragged bullet hole.
Point two , making sure the stock mounting screws are tightened to spec or a custom setting will improve accuracy a little more . Using proper shooting techniques IE : Same exact aim point , breath and exhale and at the bottom of the exhale hold your breath slightly. Wait for the pause between heart beats then fire.
All of the above with the right ammo for the gun will bring those goup sizes way down.
Also it takes a couple of hundred rounds to break in a barrel so pulling one out of the package and firing a few fowling rounds is a disservice to the comparison.
Some will argue that point on breaking in a barrel...a good precision made barrel shouldn't require that many rounds to break in a barrel...there were a lot of things wrong with that test...first off the barrel is too short for shooting longer..
distances...the barrel is shorter than the twist...which will cause bullet to key hole at farther distance...amongst other problems...just not very good grouping at 42 yrs, should be all dime size groups at that distance...no disrespect, just facts !! ✌
My right ear felt lonely.
Downrange Photography ?
Am I the only one that watched the video and didn't really care about the test?
Boobies
Why dont they test with $25 rimfire ammo?
You should try the gemtech suppressor ammo most accurate 22lr I've ever shot.
I dont think that Nightforce can handle the recoil
smh, couldnt even spring for a nice NC star
First set....the barrel was loose. I own a takedown. And that's the clear problem. No way that CCI ammo would produce flyers like that
Shaky table, questionable rifle vise = poor setup. Mediocre group for 40 yards. Not much difference.
You also have an aftermarket trigger assembly.
At the time of that video it was the factory trigger with an aftermarket mag release only. Now it is a complete aftermarket volquartsen trigger and it shoots extremely tight groups
I was thinking about buying this gun, but the precision is absolutely horrible! 1 and a halv inch is REALLY bad for 60 yards, and this is 40 yards? Or is it bad shooting / bad setup?
Thanks for this video
Ever heard of CZ, Anschütz, SK, RWS, Lapua? Just a few names, you should think of, if you want to make a video about accuracy. At least take the CCI Green Tag.
Why did you change the barrel? The stock barrel is that bad and gives worse groups so you decided to change it?
impressive ? really? those groups are sad with both barrels. in my opinion i would attribute the findings to poor shooting ability.
Agreed. You should be key holing shots at that distance w/that rifle and those accessories. Go over your shooting fundamentals. Besides your shooting it was a decent video.
Haha I have no doubt the shooting could have been better. Just keep in mind that is a factory trigger and the gun was being shot off a gunsmithing vise, which was sitting on a plastic folding table. With a sturdier base and better vise or maybe sandbags I am sure we could have done better. Stay tuned because we have some more upgrades coming and we will be doing a similar test with a better shooting platform!
dug Shooter Other factors play as well. Quality of ammunition can have a large effect. I've been shooting with match grade ammo and have noticed a better grouping vs CCI.
With a better trigger you can tighten both groups. When shooting out of the SB-X barrel the video shows the shooter pulling two of the shots, in contrast it also demonstrates when there is good technique(breathing, etc) the shooter is dead on.
"key holing" is not the word. Key holing is what happens when a bullet tumbles in flight and hits the target sideways. You mean clover leafing.
That is not good accuracy with either Barrel, and that distance you should have one Jagged hole with a decent setup and shooter. Inch and a half would be acceptable at 100 yards but not 40
I’ve got one of these. He needs more practice with it. He looks uncomfortable to me. Heck, with that first grouping, the TacSol should be the superstar. LOL. It’s unfortunately that the TacSol barrel cost as much as the entire 10/22. If I had known that, I would have just bought the TacSol gun, or a Volquartzen. :\
Is it $500 better? I dont think so, sadly. I wish they werent so expensive. I love TacSol.
SBX is a nice barrel but at 250.00 or so bucks, not real sure that it is a winner over the factory barrel. It is nice that it weighs next to nothing and that it is shorter then the factory even with the suppressor added. I have been looking at one myself but not sure I can justify it.
Im gonna get the barrel. I plan on suppressing my 10/22 and want to cut the length down. Plus the standard barrel looks like a needle dick.
one more factor that can mess up a test with a suppressor is if you have a baffel strike, where the bullet touches the edge of a baffel as its shot. And, if the baffels are not absolutely tight inside, they may rotate a bit, causing your strike points to drift. A lot can go wrong but learning is where the fun is!
It looks to me like the groups on the steel were better than on the target...and that maybe she's the better shooter 😂
What were your thoughts on the hogue stock? Have really been looking at one of those for my take down rifle.
That hogue stock is awesome. You can basically hold the gun steadier with 1 hand than the original with 2 hands. I think its a love it or hate it as far as looks but its worth it. Also weighs a little more than the factory stock.
Great informative video, don't listen to RUclips warriors who are probably air soft players, keep up the good work
Ol' Caleb hit the hot chick lottery.
The husband clearly said in the video that he was shooting at 42 yards.
Dang I'm sold on this barrel.
Hi thanks for your thoroughness but I'd have preferred a barrel comparison that didn't involve addons like your suppressor. All you had to do was remove it to keep the comparison closer.
I'm sorry but you two don't really know what your talking about. Deffinatly not a good comparison. Length has more to do with velocity that accuracy.
This is a typical comment of the internet gun community. The video was intended to help people out who are curious if there is a big accuracy difference in the barrels. Comments like yours are what make people not want to post videos.
As for barrel length not effecting accuracy, and only velocity. Maybe not directly, however, does the velocity not effect accuracy? I would say that any reloader can tell you that achieving a certain velocity with a particular round with a particular rifle is important to obtaining accuracy. That is essentially the theory of Barrel harmonics.
I should mention since this video we have shot off the ground with sandbags. 10 shot groups covered up with a dime. That was using a Volquartsen barrel and perhaps more importantly a Volquartsen trigger. As others have said, the groups in the video above were not that great. But regardless, they were under tested the same.
Caleb Smith
don't it depend too on the distance your shooting?
appreciate your opinion.
That's correct a longer barrel will give you higher velocity out of your ammo allowing you to maintain accuracy for a longer distance. OP is just one of those guys.... you know..... know it all that don't know shit
@@coreyg7575 all the powder is burnt in a 22lr in about 14 inches so longer barrels won't gain any velocity or accuracy which is usually dependent on the velocity
why is it EVERY american shooting video i see there is always a ""flyer" not just a shit shot ? most UK shooters well everyone i know , would not hunt with anything that could not group under 1/2 inch at 40 meters these rim fires seem not to be able to do that no matter what configuration ...unless its a 17 HMR.
Edgunsuk that's what a flyer is imo most of the time. it's the easy way to say "I fucked up" without actually saying it. also he did say it was probably him.
i (hopefully ) get my fire arms certificate in the next month or so i will be posting a few.22 rimfire videos i will link you to them. i am expecting 30 mm at 100 yards.
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You make it hard to pay attention to the gun.
Yeah. He definitely works out. Dude is fucking dreamy.
Is this what you call scientific?
Let's see the SB-X next to the Target Tactical 10/22
Im either gay or just love guns. It took me a minute to notice the beautiful girl. Ha ha
Which gun?
I know you try to eliminate human error as much as possible when "zeroing".(42yrds lol ok why?whatever) but it's a .22...not a .50cal. There is zero to no recoil. Plus he knew his shooting sucked 8:46. Like I said good video minus the grouping. btw sandbags @Home Depot are $18 for 50. lol
Alvaro Ortiz iij
Gun? What gun? Never seen a gun.
When will people learn your not going to lose any accuracy AT ALL with a shortened barrel. YOU LOSE SPEED NOT ACCURACY. Also you need to test each barrel with different ammo to find the best ammo for that barrel. Now shoot both barrels with that barrels favorite ammo and then MEASURE the patterns don't guess.
When you lose speed you lose accuracy, because you need to lob the bullet more which is a huge problem with semiautomatic .22 which already have problems with speed consistency.... Also the bullet will spend more time in the air and therefore be more affected by the wind,
You need Bpods or high your fort. This is not a god test. Sorry mate. I Shot better whit my normal berral.
i am another one that cares about the video but does not care about the performance of the gun,hahaha
Lost me at pretty good group
You lost me at gun cleaning vice and plastic table.
lol yea... that wasn't exactly the best setup for checking accuracy. We have stepped the game up a good bit since then. I hope to do a similar video soon and throw the Volquartsen carbon fiber barrel in the mix too..
Sportswoman Courtney I think "lost me" was a poor choice of words. Cracked me up might have been better. Just that combination of table with a $1000+ .22 and $1000+ scope was hilarious.
Rascal77s the table and cleaning vise were moving to much to get a good group. He’s needs to get a better setup then give it another go, but I like them.
I think the factory barrel has a tighter grouping, you might need glasses girl.
Eat-Sleep-Prep 1.6" for factory I'd say and 1.3" for the short barrel. that's including the "flyer".
What distance was this at?
I'd be interested to see how subsonic ammo would perform.
50 yards. If I remember correctly it was all subsonic. CCI Standard Velocity is 1070 fps. After changing to a volquartsen custom trigger and barrel we were 10 shot groups a quarter could cover and even a couple a dime could cover. That was also using a sandbag and a bipod, no more shooting off that table.
baranski
he said it was 42 yards at 3:25
Thx Miss Courtney your a sweetheart ❤️
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Cant focus on the guns because the announcer kinda cute. Lol
great video your group are not that bad there always a shit head that think they are better that every one lol hahahahaha continus you,re great joob
honey, you would have done better.
yea but need to break in the barrels to be fair test
Some may be a bit jelly since you have a hot girl..
Tushy
good girl
She’s totally hot
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Use better ammo
Absolutely gorgeous!! Nice rifle too
Nice creepy comment, I'm going to leave one as well
@@samoansojahit's a compliment chill bro
Ruger 10/22 stock barrel are considered accurate out of the box and adding a thicker barrel in many cases results in minimal improvement. The biggest issue is barrel and receiver to stock fit since the receiver is considered too small and light to fully support a free floated heavy barrel, bedding barrel several inches from chamber end is the next best option. The one screw stock retaining screw tension should not change group size if stock is fitted properly from the factory but if it does it's a sign of improper fit or seasonal wood movement.