Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 4 Review
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2022
- The Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 4 is almost identical to the ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4. It’s a slim & light mobile workstation with Intel Core i7, i9 or Xeon CPUs and up to NVIDIA RTX A5000 / RTX 3080 16GB graphics. Thanks to our video’s sponsor- Trend Micro's Premium Security Suite offers complete device and identity protection for up to 10 devices. Check it out here: bit.ly/3JhBC7l and use code LISA10 (case sensitive) for 10% off your purchase! With more powerful GPU options, the ThinkPad P1 has vapor chamber cooling, allowing for more performance than average from a 1.8kg / 4 lb. portable PC. It has a 16” 16:10 aspect ratio display in QHD or 4K resolution with wide gamut for content creation. Wi-Fi 6E, a 1080p webcam and a fingerprint scanner are standard. It has 2 RAM slots for upgradability and optional 4G and 5G WWAN on some models. #trendmicro #premiumsecuritysuite
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I have used several ThinkPads for work machines over the past few years. They're very reliable workhorses.
Love her reviews. They feel so thorough and honest. One of my fav RUclips personalities. Keep up the great work please Lisa. Thank you
They are Honest and very Real!!
I've always used XPS Dell's, this intrigues me. Great video. You are the tops in terms of credibility and a joy to watch!
I love your videos Lisa. And I'm a ThinkPad fan! I have the P17. It's a beast. Literally!
The prices came down and the specs went up, so I bought this yesterday. Thank you, Lisa, for the review.
Would you consider in future reviews discussing the suitability of laptop specs for machine learning applications?
How do you like it currently?
gen 5 has now been released. When do you think you could make a video or maybe a comparison with gen 4? That would be awesome.
Hello Lisa, I saw the P15 Gen 2 in comparison with the P1 Gen 4 in your video. It will be great if you can make a review of that "Thick"Pad P15 in the future. All your videos are fantastic!
Lisa, you are an absolute ROCK ✩ STAR ✩ Love your sweet upbeat sparkly happy personality and informative analytical technical reviews.
I have one from work. I9 64GB 1TB 3080, compare to other thinkpad like p15 and p17, i perfer this due to weight and its a true beast.
is this suitable for gaming?
@@mohamadhariz9613 unfortunately no, someone in Reddit mentioned that he returned the machine after he got thermal throttling while playing game.
What kind of work do you use it for?
I need to replace my old Thinkpad. Perfect timing! Thank you, Lisa.
As always I love your t-shirt and the review. 👍😁
“It’s not going to endanger your fertility if you’re a man” 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks…I enjoyed your review. Blessings on your day!
Great review - well done!
Just bought one a week ago. Actually I have searched for you review and didn’t find one, now her it is
is his good for gaming?
This is a brilliant machine!
I got the A2000 + 11800H, and got 2 nvme slots. It's fixed almost everything on my wishlist from the previous generation. 16:10. Wide color gamut display, larger trackpad, better speakers. Battery life could be better, and speaker can still catch up to MBP.
I'm about to pull the trigger on the same model (with the A2000). Do you still like the laptop? Any complaints/issues? I know Lenovo will probably drop workstation laptops later this year with 12th gen Intel CPUs, but the 11800H is more than enough for what I'm doing.
@@MnemonicCarrier Yes, still use it pretty much every day. No major complaints really. There were some weird minor bios issues, which all seem resolved now. If you get it on a good price, I'd go for it.
What is the approximate battery life you get with casual web searching and what's your display option? Thanks
How much did you pay for it? I'm looking at that same model so I can enjoy RUclips videos in 2k res
@@tunakizal 3 hours at most. What a shame :(
I'm watching this video by using my 2012 T43S. Will upgrade to 16:10 screen ratio T14 G3 later this year. Hope to use another 10 + years.
2012 x230 here. Also hoping to look into the T14 gen3 when it releases later this year. 10 years is my goal too 😂
Hope to see you do Gen 6
Can't wait for the 5th gen version with the 165 Hz FHD+ display.
I'm rocking my Lenovo Ideapad Slim 7i Pro, 11 Gen i7, 16 GB Ram, 1TB SSD. I made my final decision to get it after you reviewed it. Got it for 900.00 at Costco. Absolutely love it.
rock it
@@Cenot4ph 😊
Put in an order after thinking for a while for the P1 Gen 4 (i7, A4000) to replace my existing Gen 3. I love my Gen 3 (i7, 64Gb, T2000) although I cheaped out on the FHD screen and really need more real estate when working remote (most of the time its docked to a 4K monitor). Looking forward to the 4K+ touch panel, should make photoshop and AutoCAD a bit nicer to use when working in hotels etc. A4000 should allow for some gaming too.
Did you buy it? If so, how do you find it? Do you like it? Would you recommend it?
@@MnemonicCarrier Hi Scott, I have it in front of me now. I was using it on my desk closed with it hooked up to a external 32” monitor. Temps were a bit high (60-70oC) under light load. Repasted it which dropped a couple of degrees but turns out it draws air through the keyboard now it sits 50oC at idle.
Keyboard is certainly shallower than the P3 although still feels great compared to Macs.
Screen is outstanding (4k Pantone calibrated touch) and the speakers are also so much better.
Would recommend it highly although turns out the G5 is on the way now!!! 🤯
Owned a X1carbon a few years ago, loved it but unfortunately got stolen :((( Now considering getting a Thinkpad with Nvidia GPUs and deciding between P1 and X1extreme, thank you for the great videos!
Intel 11th gen at this point is a no go. 12th gen is a big jump. Also the AMD based Thinkpad Z a month away, I’d wait.
12th gen is a big jump in heat to, they likely need to update the cooling to keep up, so it's holding out for a redesign
@@bradhaines3142 I am not sure if the x1e gen 5 / p1 gen 5 will have the option to opt out of the nvidia card. Having the system with only the 12gen intel will probably benefit the cpu of running at maximum power since there is no need to cool down an nvidia chip. The intel 12th gen has also good graphics to counter the lack of a dedicated graphic card. But from current leaks, I have the impression that lenovo might give this option for this generation like past generations.
I’m keen to see what the Z Series offers, it’s like an XPS running AMD with less QC problems. I was never attracted to the T series models but I’d go for a Z if I needed a new Windows laptop.
If you wait for 12th gen then don't expect to get your hands on it til 2023. They will be "released" in the summer. Meaning they will be "shipping within 3+ months" from then. With standard Lenovo delays you're looking at Q4 or Q1 '23.
@Brad: Keep in mind, new 12th gen and Ryzen 6000 also run better on lower cTDP, meaning they consume much less than designed power and will still outperform last gen by quite a lot. They are the biggest CPU-side jump in laptops we have seen in a decade.
How is the build quality on this compared to Microsoft surface studio product or dell XPS notebooks?
I'm probably going to purchase one of these (to use as a Linux workstation). These days, it's very difficult to find a powerful workstation class laptop without a number pad - I prefer a centered keyboard, and I never use the numpad. Anyway, great review, thanks!
So true
Hi did you purchased ?? i have new laptop 64 GB ram in 50 % discount...
@@the_invisible__ I did purchase one, and to be very honest, I found the P1 gen 4 underwhelming. There's lots of things I just don't like about it, starting with the screen refresh rate (there's something very wrong with it, even under windows - likes of janking). I also can't screen record smoothly. Very disappointed, rarely use it.
@@MnemonicCarrier Ohh sad to hear.. I didnt use it so dont know much about it.. Hope so in next Generation they will take care of those issues.
@@the_invisible__ I think it has a lot to do with the Intel i7 11800H CPU (and the iGPU). I can't really explain it, but the P1 gen 4 just felt like a pig. It's not responsive, scrolling web pages is jittery (instead of perfectly smooth) etc etc etc... Even my ancient Lenovo ThinkPad T460s feels better than my P1. Anyway, you live and learn. BTW - I also love my Lenovo Legion 5 (with a Ryzen 7 4800H). I find myself using this most of the time now - good battery life, excellent keyboard, and 144Hz refresh rate. Also has a great microphone for video conferencing, and the speakers are okay (not great, just "acceptable"). I'm not thinking about getting the Legion 5 Pro (2022 AMD model - gen 7).
Ethernet port and Full size SD card slot are very important.
These days, those ports are less and less on the stylish mobile laptops but why not on the beast machine like this.
I have the x1 extreme gen 2, big updates would be much improved cooling and graphics options which it looks like they have achieved this.
it's difficult to gauge a laptop's thermals from a youTube clip. and along with cooling come noise levels
connect to it 2x27inch monitors and you will hear fans all day long. same like in mac book pro 16.
At my day job, I’ve been using a Dell Precision 5550 for the last 10 months, and after using a W530 for 6 years before that, I hate the Dell keyboard and trackpad to the point that I run it in clamshell mode. I’d get a Gen 4 Extreme, but I see the Gen 5 is about to be released… 🤔
Hello Lisa,
¿Could you make s review of the Lenovo Thinkpad z13 , Z16 and the Samsung Galaxy Book Pro 360?
Thanks.
@Lisa. At the opening, you show a P50, is that P50 the same one you reviewed years ago? I think I met your channel with that review. I remember you claimed that with the P50/P70 powerbrick you could kill a rat.
That is a P15, not a P50. The P15 is the most current available and I'll be reviewing it soon.
@@mobiletechreview oh thanks my broken English confused fifteen and fifty. I guess all rodents are safe
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I love this laptop unfortunately too expensive.
weird times, when macbook have much better value
Idea pad 3 with AMD is very affordable. You could buy 3 for the price of this one. 🤷🏼♂️ It’s not as good but good enough.
You can always buy used, I bought a gen 1 x1 extreme with a P1 165hz 1440p panel for $600. Replaced the keyboard, battery and repasted the cpu/gpu. With a little effort you can save a lot of money and get a great machine.
Same thing as two models ago but took out an NVME slot? AMD CPU or GTFO!
It is also worth mentioning that the laptop can also be custom ordered to exclude any nvidia card and have only an iGpu for those who require that (linux users).
Would there be an issue with this laptop and an NVIDIA card under Linux?
@@mobiletechreview nvidia tends to have driver issues with linux
@@mobiletechreview There is no nvidia optimus (the driver that switches from igpu to dgpu) under linux that works seamlessly like windows. Switching from the intel graphics to nvidia requires a system restart under linux. On the p1 or x1e and most systems, the intel gpu is wired directly to the internal display, whereas the nvidia one is wired to all the external displays ports (display port thru usb-c and hdmi in order to benefit from high frame rate and gsync). So if the linux system is running under intel gpu , you will lose the capability to connect to external displays because the external ports are connected to the nvidia chip which is not enabled. Under linux, in order to solve this, you will need to enter the BIOS and then enable the MUX switch to physically rewire the internal display to the nvidia, and then boot the system using "only" the nvidia card. This however, will make the system less power efficient and will disable the intel gpu. Unfortunately, there is no MUX to rewire the intel gpu to connect to all the internal monitor and the external ports. So the p1 and x1e that are ordered without the nvidia will have the intel gpu connected to both the internal monitor and external monitor ports thus removing the hassle of graphics switching. There are some workarounds...
@@bradhaines3142 after all these years, still such poor support from Nvidia
@@mobiletechreview Naaw, only for Linux user boiiiiiiz. We Linuxy housewives have no probs installing and using the proprietary drivers and working on our computers. At least on Arch everything is great. Can't say anything about Ubuntu and such halfbaked distros. I guess AMD GPUs are a bit better but no, no probem with Nvidia either.
Where did you get that Kakashi t-shirt from?
Starting around $1900? Sounds like a good deal, but according to the lenovo UK site it starts at £2909.99 in the UK (~$3797). That's ... a big diff.
Likewise in the EU it's starting at €3159 (in fairness including 19% sales tax) which is roughly $3500. Still over one thousand dollars more expensive before sales tax/VAT :-/
pity walmart doesn’t have a store in Oz i would buy that shirt in a heartbeat
i am not sure if this is how i do this
Excellent.
I don't know but for sure I am getting older. Before these new gen reviewers, I am watching her already
is this suitable for gaming?
I have that same shirt, got it at Walmart 👍🏻
nice
Got mine in a local comic book shop (yeah, I'm that big a nerd LOL).
can u help what would 16.0 WQUXGA 60Hz and GeForce® RTX™3080 16GB how would this compare to say the A5000 which was in razer studio
also what screen is best to do photo and video editing on colour grading on this laptop ?
I just wish they used silver aluminium or at least a different colour. The black stains so easily with fingerprints, this is the same with the black Surface Laptop or HP Spectre.
Which screen offers glossiest screen?
I'm glad Lenovo is still building these "legacy" designs from the IBM days.
great, I can buy this laptop in 3 years within a normal price range :)
No DDR5?
I don't really get what differ this laptop with thinkpad xtreme besides it's able to use Xeon
GPU options are different, as I mentioned.
also better temps. x1e owners complain a lot about temps
Great machine, too bad lenovo is always a bit late, and now I am not sure it makes sense to buy an 11th gen CPU workstation, when Alder Lake promises to give a significant boost.
The P1 Gen 4 has been available in the US since fall of 2021-- earlier in other regions. It's Lisa's review that's "a bit late."
@@XMACHINAv2 Yeah, Lenovo didn't send us a review unit until Feb 2022. But these vPro machines & processors typically come out 6 months after a new gen CPU release, so it will be a while before we see this machine with 12th gen CPUs.
@@mobiletechreview
I get it, Lisa. I wasn't complaining -- just explaining.
It should have occurred to me that you might not have even received the P1 until recently; I just assumed that you hadn't gotten around to reviewing it given that you cover a range of mobile devices and there are just so many you can review.
And whatever you lack in timeliness you make up for with thoroughness.
@@XMACHINAv2 Normally, we get units within weeks of launch. COVID is still messing with that and many companies aren't firing on all cylinders when it comes to getting review units out. Mostly it's a laptop issue, phones haven't been delayed.
Hi Lis , I have a 4 gen and the monitor connection got damaged after less than 2 years. Could you talk about possible and known issues too?
lovely laptop but really overkill for my needs
Why doesn't ThinkPad make these with Ryzen CPUs?
This seems close to perfect: The only downside (besides the price) is that you have to choose between a decent GPU and a second SSD.
That said, I'll be waiting for either Intel 12th gen or AMD CPUs for better efficiency.
good
Would think twice before purchasing. My sister just dropped $2k on one and it’s nothing but an expensive paper weight. Many BSOD and now will not even boot.
I'm searching for a ThinkPad laptop comes with a pen (2in1) .can anyone tell me what are these kind of laptop named (500$-1000$)
Late reply but I'm pretty sure it's the thinkpad Yoga.
nice
I honestly don't get all the yammering about especially video cards, and which price for which video card version, which fraction of professionals really use that, I've never even encountered people who need a dedicated video card.
Am I the only one who is interested in real usability? E.g. how much RAM for which price which is of prime importance to IT professionals, how big the keyboard, size of the keys, especially arrow and function keys, backlight quality (it tends to be so badly executed it's useless), quality of the camera in bad light, mic and speakers quality for headphone less videoconferencing, types, location, and quality of i/o ports, etc.? The Thinkpad (E15 gen2) I have now absolutely sucks at all those.
I want to get this so I can watch RUclips videos in 2k res
USBC charging doesn't charge, otherwise great laptop.
Do I want 20 hours of battery life? Yes. Will I sacrifice that for a monstrous CPU and GPU? Probably.
When do we get 128mb ram and 16 core
damage my fertility 💀
Days of old??? What kind of expression is that? Key travel looks shorter than my p14s g2 i bought in december (and that's just so-so). 'that sort of thing' is also one of main reasons why people buy these machines imo, for general tasks it's perfectly good, i tend to disable trackpads and use trackpoint as it just feels more accurate.
Keyboard is not good at all. I replaced all keycaps with p14s g2 keycaps to make it barely useable. A lot of people focus on key travel, but the biggest problem I found with the keyboard is that the keys themselves feel flimsy, they are flatter -less concave , and have a punchy feel to them and those changes make the keyboard awful! Definitely not the classic keyboard feel!
Yay! No numpad to offset the keyboard!
VERY idsappointed that the wifi slot is NOT upgradable as its why you would buy a Thinkpad.
Please confirm it wont have SPYWARE on the chip that marrs the Z series laptops? This makes it impossible to use in Enterprise due to national security issues and data protection issues.....Is Thinkpad really an actor for the declining hardware bulleying by Microsoft under the sham certification scheme?
As the world moves to linux professionals want linux and AMD.Not monopolies from MS and Intel.
I bought p1 gen4 rtx3080 gpu and together with thunderbolt 4 workstation dock. I am very disappointed with the laptop and the dock. The laptop in the beginning was a fan noise factory, only resolved with firmware upgrades, but still fan is always on and noisy. the technical Support is slow and not helpful.the technical support only proposes to return the device for repair, i can not even find a contact email to ask how to replace the dock with higher power output. The Dockstation is not powerful enough to charge the laptop, the battery level decreases even while the original charger is connected to the laptop. Lenovo? no! never again!
Neat, but my MBP 16“ is still better in almost every way, minus gaming and certain 3D apps.
Hiii mam, I like your t shirt, it's so cooooollll 😉👍.
The P1 series have been a huge let down for me.
I've been an avid Thinkpad user. I use them for serious stuff like CAD and simulations. They run hot. This thing is not a true Thinkpad. I call it the "FriedPad". I feel like I could start a business selling fried eggs at the coffee shop where I use it, and I'd make a killing selling "EggPads".
The top gets blazing hot. Same with the keyboard. Those nuclear radioactive powered Intel procs Lenovo decided to put in this thing. What's your obsession with Intel? How much money did Intel give you to put their pizza oven cookers in it? It's an engineering shame. How do you mess up something as basic as how to cool a FriedPad?
It's noisy. When the fans are on full throttle, it's like the Concorde on afterburner mode. Only that the Concorde could actually achieve something! This thing can't even take off, let alone open a program quickly. It lags constantly.
At least the chiks think I have a hot laptop. And they get impressed when they see flames coming off the vents, not knowing it's slower than their cheap Walmart Chromebook.
It's also slower than my old Thinkpad W530 workstation, but hey the P1 boasts a 12 or a 16 thread CPU! Right? But no, the old trusty W530 that was released several years ago beats this "modern" laptop around with ease. Then it kicks it again with impunity when it's sitting on the floor desperately crying for help, because it can't open a jpeg image. Give me a break Lenovo! What good is a fast CPU if it performs so slow to do ordinary things because you have to throttle it down in order for it not to cook itself?
And remind me how much you want Lenovo, for this FriedPad? $5k something? I could get a several P50-P52s workstations that would perform twice as fast as this thing, thanks to a better cooling design.
The P1 wins when it comes to rendering and simulations, and that's it. Plus having a modern GPU. But for CPU usage, don't think for a moment it's going to be a huge difference against an old i7 3740QM. That's the CPU that came in my old Thinkpad. I can upgrade to the extreme version and I feel confident it would slap the P1.
The other thing that annoys me. The fragility. It's like a princess who's constantly breaking down crying for whatever reason. You can't take this thing outside on the elements, as the chances of breaking apart will increment exponentially. You have to treat it with gloves. This is a computer for the royalty. It's only for looks and appearances.
I have to wipe it often because the thing likes to attract dust and fingerprints and spyware thanks to Wokewindows. Get back to work Lenovo.
I love my 12 year old t420s even with it's shitty screen. It is quiet and does not overheat
Jesus they still use USB type B...
So if you are an astronaut and "borrow" the laptop from a super nerd to get even and let it rest on your junk, it will not damage your fertility, but be pleasantly warm?
11th gen????
Doesn’t worth 1900 🤷🏻♂️ i can a get a better deal with macbook pro with better build quality and performance seems to be impressive .
Good luck tryna open up and fix one of those yourself.
You'll hear the fans...hhhhhhmmmmmmm
Used to like Lenovo until I had to deal with their warranty "support". Absolutely rock bottom, and if you don't believe me, check out their official forum board and websites like trust pilot etc.
Anyone that buys 11th gen at this point.... 🤣
This computer is so stupid and with no quality checks before selling to customers! I have color peeling off from keyboard on 3 keys, two BSoD, no way to turn computer off in BSoD (power button not responding), front most USB-A port is unreliable and fails large file copies to externa drive, computer running HOT in sleepmode (leds fading), bluetooth freezes every other second, computer sometimes loops every other minute with chimes like it is unplugging usb, rolling back to bios 1.14 due to dead usb-c ports, white spot in display...
AND THE WORST PART IS THAT LENOVO WONT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO REPLACE IT!
Blaiming the customer because it is "cosmetics" and doesn't cover by warranty, the customer has to pay!!
Can only state lenovo is mafia BLACK MAILING its customers, sending out broken computers and only accept repair if the costumer pays even more!!
I have been trying for over 4 months to get a replacement unit or repair, it was hard to even get an answer from the support! Eventually got an email to global pr at lenovo who send me to EMEA team, well they are only wasting my time blaming me for the "cosmetic" faults....
Lenovo has appauling customer service avoid at all costs
11th gen CPU? No thanks.
is it bad?
I pay Google for RUclips Premium not to have ads....so go get your money from Google and please don't place in-video ads.
Weak!
@@KarlDahlquist Yes you are!
Disaster!!
Can't get any support! Emails but never gets an answer anywhere! There is no phone number anywhere!
Have so many awful problems with my P1 Gen4 so it's embarrassing! I now hate my brand new computer due to all the problems!
Obvious quality problems, color missing on keyboard buttons, fans jerking, white spot on the screen, battery life max 4h, longer battery life on macbook 15 "from 2011, bios updates that kill usb-c / TB4 ports, bluetooth problems, fan problems, sleep mode don't work properly (hot even though led is fading), usb-chime sounds al the time. Fresh windows 10 install with all drivers updated.
Catastrophically Embarrassing!
Whenever I want a tech review my number one first place to go to is Lisa at MobileTechReview :)