Trackpoint is great for use in the field when you're wearing gloves. Bulky or thick gloves often are hard to use with trackpads. The trackpoint makes it much easier.
When I first got a Lenovo, I didn't "get" why people loved the trackpoint.. but I've been using it for years now, and really I couldn't live without trackpoint.. At this point for me it's just SO natural to keep my hands on the keyboard and still be able to move the mouse, no need to pick my hands up to mouse.
The TrackPoint lets me move the cursor without having to take my hands off the home row of the keyboard, which is important for people who do a lot of typing. Once I got used to it, I found it extremely annoying whenever I have to use a laptop without one. It's also really useful for people who take their laptops out in the field and have to wear really thick gloves.
I purchased this laptop last week and I am typing this comment in it. From the Keyboard to screen to performance to durability, words are less to describe how amazing this product is and worth the price. I would highly recommend it especially if you are using heavy CPU consuming software be it for work purposes or personal use.
The trackpoint is great and you should give it a chance. It's superior for precision cursor input and you can keep both hands on the keyboard the entire time. With touch pads, most users move their entire hand every time they use the touchpad. Also, the by using the trackpoint you have excellent access to the dedicated buttons above the touch pad.
To add to the above, you always have right/left click available to you with your thumb. Moreover you can press the middle button with your thumb and just push up/down on trackpoint to scroll. All of this is without moving your hands away from keyboard.
DONT ever take the trackpoint away! I buy only thinkpad's bc of trackpoint. Why? I dont have to move my hand/finger. Dead simple. Try it out, get used to it and i promise you will never go back
I love the TrackPoint. It is like a mouse built in using your index to move the TrackPoint and clicking with your thumb. So natural. You do it and keep typing real quick.
Those that have become comfortable with the track point know what a huge compromise touch pads are. You have unlimited real estate to work in, it's much faster, and you don't have to displace your hands from the keyboard. It's that, and the best of breed keyboard that keeps me on Thinkpads.
Change the trackpoint to the soft-rim version. It cradles the finger and takes much less force to use. The advantage of the trackpoint is to use the mouse without moving your palms so that typing is not interrupted much.
Track point is ergonomic. It won't hurt your hands. You don't have to put your hand in a weird position and it doesn't have to leave the keyboard. Just try using it.
i understand the trackpoint has a big following. Very cool hearing lots of people love it. Not for me though. I'm much faster on touchpad or external mouse
I find I can be more precise placing the cursor with the track point. I also don’t like the sensation of having to slide my finger back and forth over the track pad which I never use as a result,
I got this laptop refurbished for 1350 AUD, super impressed with it. Beautiful touch 4k 400 nits display, was worried it may not be bright enough compared to other screen versions but quality of display is amazing, finally a Thinkpad with a great display. i7 10850H 32G 256G NVMe Quadro T2000 15.6" OLED 4K Touch It runs super quiet even under heavy load with lots of applications open, feels durable and sturdy, keyboard is top notch, highly recommend this.
Thanks for this mini review, i found a similar setup but with more storage and 16gb ram for about the same price Im glad to heard that it runs quiet for you since thats my main concern
What I love about MBs are: -touch screen -pen support -ample ports -1080p webcam -microSD slot -180/360 screens -face recognition -upgradability -Wifi 6, and of course -8% market share Not sure why RUclips always fail to mention these things...lol
a thinkpad without a trackpoint will not be a true thinkpad!!! you just have to get used to the trackpoint once you do you won't switch back to touchpad... as your finger doesn't even need to move away from the keyboard when you are using the trackpoint
Hey Mark, the trackpoint is important for people who have to work with gloves, so the normal trackpad does not work. Like people working at industrial sites or in workshops.
I use the thinkpad track point a lot because I primarily use arch linux and most of the things I do is though typing. It allows me to use the mouse when I need it without my hands leaving the keyboard
Thanks for the good information. I like your video. I have one question. How dark is the P1's 400-nit multi-touch display compared to the MacBook Pro display?
Hi, you recommend this laptop for graphic design, photoshop, illustrator and UX UI software like adobe XD and figma? I actually work in a macbook pro 15 / 2019 and i think to move to this computer
I’m considering this laptop with an i7-10750h, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd, quadro t1000, and the 1080p 500 nit display (it’s on sale for around $1,200 right now). But I’m wondering about temperatures. I understand it gets loud, but I can live with that as long as temperatures are reasonable. Is there a way you can provide some input on that? Specifically for relatively high end games like forza horizon 4 or maybe CS-GO? The reason I ask is because my other consideration is the Zephyrus G15 with a ryzen 7 4800hs, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, gtx 1660 ti, and a 1080p 144hz display for $1,090. But it gets up to around 90 degrees with heavy use, which is somewhat concerning.
Hi Mark Could you please tell me i am from India, I have been fan of Thinkpad machines from many decades, i have very good budget to buy this laptop, can you tell me what is the maximum battery life it can offer. in the specifications it shows this 1. Up to 13.8 hours* 80Wh (MM14) Up to 9 hours* (MM18) is it real.
@@markguim Thanks for reply! I have ordered P1 and Core X simultaneously, will receive in a month and waiting nervously to see whether this couple will work together or i've wasted lot of money ))
P1 is lighter and more durable. Much better keyboard. Also easy to upgrade memory and storage. Has a better gpu. Also looks better. Macbook has brighter display and bigger trackpad. I also like macbook's 16:10 display. It's thinner too. Really depends on what's important to you
@@markguim Display - One has 4k OLED and macbook is inferior... But those are numbers... How do they look really... Like if you are saying 4k movie in both of them which will you prefer ?
Great video. Keyboard looks awesome on the Lenovo! Also I am impressed with the video quality coming out of that Sony ZV-1. Looking forward to you posting more content in the future :)
@@markguim I had P1G3 for a while but did not think the fan were loud. Also to stress on what you said, the fan come on during video export, not during video editing. Normal video playing, browsing, typing do not cause fan to activate.
I have owned the i9/4K version with 64GB of RAM and 4TB of SSD for 5 months now. The 2 fans are constantly running and the only remedy is disconecting the workstation from AC power to get some peace for 2 hours before recharging the internal battery again. Whilst on battery the screen dims each time one changes from one application to another. And before I forget, a major fingerprint magnet. Paid almost A$7,000 for my machine and should have stayed with my T440s.
Not even close. I mean MacBook is way better. Little advantages add up: 1. Fingerprint sensor is better. 2. Keyboard is better. 3. The screen is way better.
Dude, you shouldn't be showing the device's ID and product ID in your videos. That's a recipe for disaster cause someone (hackers/nerds) can easily steal your ID. BLUR THAT OUT PLS! Other than that, quite informative video :)
This Laptop can be charged via type-c ports too. The reason it has proprietary port is: 45W CPU and Discrete GPU (NVidia) which consume a lot of power (up to ~120W counting all hardware). Current gen type-c port can to pass through itself no more than 100 watts (standart limitation), that's why there can be cases when even 100W usb type-c charger won't be enough to charge this laptop under heavy load. Still, if you are not using your laptop that way, you can use standard type-c 65W charger from other manufactures, it will suit well (but will take more time to fully charge). I think Lenovo (and other manufactures, who has proprietary adapters for such laptops) will use their own connectors until there will be new version of usb type-c with support of >100W
Trackpoint is great for use in the field when you're wearing gloves. Bulky or thick gloves often are hard to use with trackpads. The trackpoint makes it much easier.
When I first got a Lenovo, I didn't "get" why people loved the trackpoint.. but I've been using it for years now, and really I couldn't live without trackpoint.. At this point for me it's just SO natural to keep my hands on the keyboard and still be able to move the mouse, no need to pick my hands up to mouse.
The TrackPoint lets me move the cursor without having to take my hands off the home row of the keyboard, which is important for people who do a lot of typing. Once I got used to it, I found it extremely annoying whenever I have to use a laptop without one. It's also really useful for people who take their laptops out in the field and have to wear really thick gloves.
thiccc hands
I purchased this laptop last week and I am typing this comment in it. From the Keyboard to screen to performance to durability, words are less to describe how amazing this product is and worth the price. I would highly recommend it especially if you are using heavy CPU consuming software be it for work purposes or personal use.
The trackpoint is great and you should give it a chance. It's superior for precision cursor input and you can keep both hands on the keyboard the entire time. With touch pads, most users move their entire hand every time they use the touchpad. Also, the by using the trackpoint you have excellent access to the dedicated buttons above the touch pad.
To add to the above, you always have right/left click available to you with your thumb. Moreover you can press the middle button with your thumb and just push up/down on trackpoint to scroll. All of this is without moving your hands away from keyboard.
Yeah, don't expect those trackpoint+trackpad removed from ThinkPad lineup. You are against most of ThinkPad users, buy lenovo line up instead.
DONT ever take the trackpoint away! I buy only thinkpad's bc of trackpoint. Why? I dont have to move my hand/finger. Dead simple. Try it out, get used to it and i promise you will never go back
The reason for the placement for the Fn key, is for users to be able to find it in the dark, for a quick illumination (Fn+space) of the keyboard.
Trackpoint can be used without moving your hands. index finger on trackpoint, thumb on physical left mouse buttons
Dude!! Reminds me of the WC Days!! So good to see you back in video.
I love the TrackPoint. It is like a mouse built in using your index to move the TrackPoint and clicking with your thumb. So natural. You do it and keep typing real quick.
Those that have become comfortable with the track point know what a huge compromise touch pads are. You have unlimited real estate to work in, it's much faster, and you don't have to displace your hands from the keyboard. It's that, and the best of breed keyboard that keeps me on Thinkpads.
Change the trackpoint to the soft-rim version. It cradles the finger and takes much less force to use. The advantage of the trackpoint is to use the mouse without moving your palms so that typing is not interrupted much.
Track point is ergonomic. It won't hurt your hands. You don't have to put your hand in a weird position and it doesn't have to leave the keyboard. Just try using it.
i understand the trackpoint has a big following. Very cool hearing lots of people love it. Not for me though. I'm much faster on touchpad or external mouse
I find I can be more precise placing the cursor with the track point. I also don’t like the sensation of having to slide my finger back and forth over the track pad which I never use as a result,
no trackpoint= no thinkpad
Just ... put out a video with no "Hey guys! long time no see!!" or "It's been a while!!"
Glad you're back :D
I got this laptop refurbished for 1350 AUD, super impressed with it. Beautiful touch 4k 400 nits display, was worried it may not be bright enough compared to other screen versions but quality of display is amazing, finally a Thinkpad with a great display.
i7 10850H 32G 256G NVMe Quadro T2000 15.6" OLED 4K Touch
It runs super quiet even under heavy load with lots of applications open, feels durable and sturdy, keyboard is top notch, highly recommend this.
Thanks for this mini review, i found a similar setup but with more storage and 16gb ram for about the same price
Im glad to heard that it runs quiet for you since thats my main concern
Other than its usual functions, trackpoint is a must for CAD for real time zooming -in and zooming -out should you do not want to use a mouse.
What I love about MBs are:
-touch screen
-pen support
-ample ports
-1080p webcam
-microSD slot
-180/360 screens
-face recognition
-upgradability
-Wifi 6, and of course
-8% market share
Not sure why RUclips always fail to mention these things...lol
Still apparently rocket science for Win laptops to figure out decent battery life and haptic trackpads.
Excellent review, thorough and well delivered. Great work!
Thank you kindly!
Just subscribed! Glad to have you in this tech space!!
Welcome back ☺️
Been a while 😁😁
a thinkpad without a trackpoint will not be a true thinkpad!!! you just have to get used to the trackpoint once you do you won't switch back to touchpad... as your finger doesn't even need to move away from the keyboard when you are using the trackpoint
Trackpoint is what I miss most on a MacBook
Hey Mark, the trackpoint is important for people who have to work with gloves, so the normal trackpad does not work. Like people working at industrial sites or in workshops.
good point! i'm starting to use trackpoint more, but still prefer touchpad.
@@markguim I prefer the touchpad, too, but rarely I need to wear gloves at work, so it's good to have.
I'm here early!
Also, great to see some content again, loving the video so far!
I use the thinkpad track point a lot because I primarily use arch linux and most of the things I do is though typing. It allows me to use the mouse when I need it without my hands leaving the keyboard
Nice man! Great quality video👍 Great job. I've been wanting to check out the ThinkPad. Might have to pick one up. Good info
Thanks Josh. Love that thinkpads are mil-spec tested
Great review / comparison and showing the upgrade options. A+++
If I use thinkpad p1 gen 3 for architecture good or not please recommend me thank !
Heej men
Does IT have solderen ram?
And is the ram dual channel OR single ?
Last question: how about the temparature?
Thanks for the good information. I like your video. I have one question. How dark is the P1's 400-nit multi-touch display compared to the MacBook Pro display?
The mbp with 500 nits look brighter. Would be handy if you use the laptop a lot outdoors, but I've been indoors mostly
Hi, you recommend this laptop for graphic design, photoshop, illustrator and UX UI software like adobe XD and figma? I actually work in a macbook pro 15 / 2019 and i think to move to this computer
So would you choose the i9 version of this ThinkPad before the HP ZBook Studio G7 Core i9?
The track point. I sweat hands big time , so times when the touch pad is not responding because of the sweat , i use the track point.
I’m considering this laptop with an i7-10750h, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd, quadro t1000, and the 1080p 500 nit display (it’s on sale for around $1,200 right now). But I’m wondering about temperatures. I understand it gets loud, but I can live with that as long as temperatures are reasonable. Is there a way you can provide some input on that? Specifically for relatively high end games like forza horizon 4 or maybe CS-GO?
The reason I ask is because my other consideration is the Zephyrus G15 with a ryzen 7 4800hs, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, gtx 1660 ti, and a 1080p 144hz display for $1,090. But it gets up to around 90 degrees with heavy use, which is somewhat concerning.
I need a machine whose fan noise would not interupt when am doing live streams any help ???
Great connectivity on this laptop. Avoids losing those pricey adapters.
Nice video! Been thinking about picking one of these up for a while now. Currently on the 2019 13” MBP base model.
Go ahead..there are heavy discounts as well. I am sure you will like it.
Nice video, great review, delivery was 👌
Does it have two RAM slots or one?
Good review. a friend of mine is trying to get me to switch from my X1 Extreme to the MB Pro 16.
thanks for watching! Being able to play call of duty warzone after i'm done video editing, makes windows laptops so much better for me
wish lenovo use same speakers as apple macbook pro. it will be totally macbook killer.
what about the new MacBook pro M1 pro/max
is thinkpad p1 suitable for gaming?
Really nicely done review. Congrats.
How about alianware m15 r3 vs thinkpad p1gen 3 which one better ????
What do you think of the HP Zbook Create and how it compares to the Lenovo?
Also have my eyes on that. Looks interesting. I'll see if I can get that in for review
x1 extreme vs p1 which one should I buy ?
X1 extreme if you don't need CPU with vpro or Quadro gpu
@@markguim which one is good quadro or gtx ??
Hi Mark
Could you please tell me i am from India, I have been fan of Thinkpad machines from many decades, i have very good budget to buy this laptop, can you tell me what is the maximum battery life it can offer. in the specifications it shows this 1.
Up to 13.8 hours* 80Wh (MM14)
Up to 9 hours* (MM18)
is it real.
Have you tried it with eGPU, particularly Razer Core X?
I haven't. FYI I'm not a huge gamer, but I do play warzone
@@markguim Thanks for reply! I have ordered P1 and Core X simultaneously, will receive in a month and waiting nervously to see whether this couple will work together or i've wasted lot of money ))
What's a better choice P1 with above configuration or Macbook disregarding the OS...
P1 is lighter and more durable. Much better keyboard. Also easy to upgrade memory and storage. Has a better gpu. Also looks better. Macbook has brighter display and bigger trackpad. I also like macbook's 16:10 display. It's thinner too. Really depends on what's important to you
@@markguim Display - One has 4k OLED and macbook is inferior... But those are numbers... How do they look really... Like if you are saying 4k movie in both of them which will you prefer ?
Great video. Keyboard looks awesome on the Lenovo! Also I am impressed with the video quality coming out of that Sony ZV-1. Looking forward to you posting more content in the future :)
Thanks David. Felt good creating this video. Definitely want to do more
pgup and pgdn are the same as it's been for years
Yuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! 🔥🔥 and just subscribed by the way! Good luck with your channel brotha. You're one of us now lol.
Just subscribed! Great Video! Looks very thin just like the MacBook Pro!
How is the fan noise in p1 gen 3 ?
Gets loud when gaming and rendering video for me then turns off during regular tasks like browsing web. It's like a whoooshing sound.
@@markguim if I buy the same laptop with i5 will the fan noise will be lower (x1 extreme has i5 version).
@@markguim I had P1G3 for a while but did not think the fan were loud. Also to stress on what you said, the fan come on during video export, not during video editing. Normal video playing, browsing, typing do not cause fan to activate.
Great review
What's the actual battery life?
With the 4-cell 80Whr Battery, I get about 4 hours. But I'm mostly plugged in
great review thanks
If they ever remove the track pad/nipple I'll never gonna buy a lenovo... PERIOD
agreed
all hell will break lose if tp ever gets rid of that trackpoint, this is critical for serious programmers who don't lift their hands off the keyboard
I've been subscribed for at least 9 years... You're looking old LMAO
😂
Very Nice man
This machine with a 360 ° swivel display (like Yoga) would be my dream.
I have owned the i9/4K version with 64GB of RAM and 4TB of SSD for 5 months now. The 2 fans are constantly running and the only remedy is disconecting the workstation from AC power to get some peace for 2 hours before recharging the internal battery again. Whilst on battery the screen dims each time one changes from one application to another. And before I forget, a major fingerprint magnet. Paid almost A$7,000 for my machine and should have stayed with my T440s.
Not even close. I mean MacBook is way better. Little advantages add up: 1. Fingerprint sensor is better. 2. Keyboard is better. 3. The screen is way better.
Thinkpad for the win
An option for no trackpoint... on a thinkpad...... ??? Lol.
For some reason it sounds like lenovo paid you to do this video.
Dude, you shouldn't be showing the device's ID and product ID in your videos.
That's a recipe for disaster cause someone (hackers/nerds) can easily steal your ID. BLUR THAT OUT PLS!
Other than that, quite informative video :)
😮 good to know. Thanks
any good for Primavera P6 ? BIM? Powerproject ?
don't call any competitor of macbook a windows laptop. call it linux/win laptop.
Still using the proprietary power supply port, which continues to seem like a user-unfriendly move to me.:/
This Laptop can be charged via type-c ports too. The reason it has proprietary port is: 45W CPU and Discrete GPU (NVidia) which consume a lot of power (up to ~120W counting all hardware). Current gen type-c port can to pass through itself no more than 100 watts (standart limitation), that's why there can be cases when even 100W usb type-c charger won't be enough to charge this laptop under heavy load. Still, if you are not using your laptop that way, you can use standard type-c 65W charger from other manufactures, it will suit well (but will take more time to fully charge). I think Lenovo (and other manufactures, who has proprietary adapters for such laptops) will use their own connectors until there will be new version of usb type-c with support of >100W
I love the Macbook So Much
Sup Mark!
plz go macbook new m1 ..... it's amazing
In the ThinkPad Laptop front！ The apple is like garbr
garbage