WATCH THIS BEFORE BUYING 👉 Reno Air Races Expansion Pack Review | Microsoft Flight Simulator GOTY
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- In this video, we'll take a look at how you get the Reno Air Races, what do you get, what are your options and best of all...is it worth it?
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What is the Reno Air Races: Expansion Pack?
The Reno Air Races: Full Collection offers 40 unique, officially licensed and carefully modelled planes - 10 North American P-51 Mustangs, 10 North American T-6 Texans, 10 Aero L-39 Albatros’, and 10 Aviat Pitts Special S1S. Among them are many famous “Gold” champions like Miss America, Strega, Voodoo, Baron’s Revenge, Radial Velocity, Six-Cat, American Spirit, and Pipsqueak, and many of the other top racers. All of these amazing aircraft and the full online racing experience are included - for just $59.99.
For those who just want to get their feet wet and race with friends, the Reno Air Races: Expansion Pack is a great entry point. It includes the exhilarating, online multiplayer racing experience along with four highly detailed starter aircraft: a North American T-6 Texan, a North American P-51 Mustang, an Aero L-39 Albatros, and an Aviat Pitts Special S1S - for only $19.99.
The Microsoft Flight Simulator team worked closely with the Reno Air Racing Association (RARA) and dozens of pilots and owners to develop highly authentic recreations of many of the world’s most famous racing aircraft.
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Have you purchased the Reno Air Races? What are your thoughts? What would you like to see added?
I bought it, can't say I regret it since I built a pc specifically for VR flying. I couldn't pass it up.
Edit: Stol drags would have been nice.
I downloaded it but i click race and it stays in a loading screen.
There’s an update coming with SU8 on March 1
@@SizzlingPopcorn Cool! Even though mine is not working lol I wish the audience and decorations were there all the time. I am enjoying doing flybys in my p51.
@@MM-rf8ml Do you know what that means? It might work for you after the update. 😎 Yeah, but some people would complain if they were there all the time. Maybe have the option to toggle on/off, just like several airport DLCs have the option to toggle static aircraft on/off.
I bought the full collection. No regrets. My only disappointment is that you can only access the Airshow Style scenery while qualifying or racing. I would have loved to be able to "Fly-In" to Reno in a Cessna or on a domestic flight, participate in the races, then explore the Airshow in the drone camera and the fly home afterwards. I think they have missed a bit of a trick in not allowing people to do this as it would have really added something to free flight in the Reno Area. (Or at least there be an option if you've bought the packs to have "Airshow Scenery Enabled/Disabled")
Yes, that's great idea! If you buy it, you should be able to spectate...maybe in the comfort of your own plane. 😉
@@SizzlingPopcorn 100% I don't fee like I got everything I paid for! Well the good news is you got a new Sub out of it! Thanks for sharing looking forward to the next one!
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@@SizzlingPopcorn No worries mate, I enjoy your content (can't believe I only just found it!) Thanks for the links I'll check them out especially the Lord Howe Island one as i plan on getting that one myself. Look forward to watching that and Mackay... I love a good Australian Scenery Showcase! Cheers again for the links and nice reply!
We should have got Red Bull air racing… with real Red Bull tracks around the world… much more exciting
Yes, I agree! I don’t follow the series, but I bet there’s more variety!
Red Bull Air Races haven't existed for years sadly.
@@jasond7978 and even if, I bet licenses for Reno would cost a fraction of what a RB license would...
i find this really fun myself. i was aware of what the reno air races were though, and knew what to expect, because this is an airplane simulator first.
but i play the game with a joystick in cockpit view mode. it’s not as fun for me with the outside view or with a controller.
thank you for the video! I was pretty sure that the base DLC would be enough since I definetly not have time to fly 40 different same planes in Freeroam :D I would like to see some red bull air race stuff or a race editor mode so I could create some interesting tracks around my hometown
im a bush plane pilot so looking forward to when they add the STOL racing to the reno races, its one on one racing - would have like to see the sport class added but i imagine it will be added later - i have been a big fan of reno racing for many years and love having it in the sim - not a waste of money for me at all
Someone needs to make a crop dusting mod with AG planes, would be so dope
Farming flight simulator 2022
Thanks for the post! I see what you mean about getting the base expansion pack version. I’m disappointed in that there’s not more racers! I’ve only got to race twice with 2 other people. I do competitive online car racing and there’s alway a lot people racing cars.
I haven’t played it since the release weekend.
Hey man thanks for the video . Liked and subscribed
Awesome thank you!
I just bought the full collection during the spring sale, very happy considering it was reduced from £124 to £33 so will definitely squeeze the juice out of that if I can. It would be amazing if Asobo, now having the platform to do, would develop the Red Bull air races series with the Extra 300s and so on
No talks of that happening. Red Bull series is non-existent. There is some freeware with cones, but no modes or anything like that. Reno Air Races is just that....3 rings on the same landscape with 4 planes. The equivalent to buying a Daytona 500 game, where all you have is 1 race track and 3 cars, one for each series (Cup, Xfinity and Trucks).
Orbx has something that you can make courses with, but it's quite basic.
I am hoping MS and Asobo add a STOL drag option too. Those are fun to watch
I wouldn't buy it normally but it's on sale for the full collection right now for $60 when it's usually around $400 so I'm getting the full set. Thanks for the video!
$60 is the regular price. $400+ is when you buy every airplane individually,
@@SizzlingPopcorn Ah they got me with the fancy marketing. lol Oh well it's still pretty fun with the time trials.
@@noiamhippyman LOL...glad you're having fun!
what's with the albatross jets and the legs of the pilots sticking out of the bottom of the aircraft outside of the air race section?
Its a sim. Therfore prop pitch, mixture, engine parameters, fuel load and cg should all be factors. As well as starting form the runway
I could imagine that such options might be added to the race menu... Would make sense at least :)
Great review. I got the whole package, with some regrets, extra planes I will not likely fly, my "hangar" is full of planes and they are not in a Livery bundle (preferred), and the lack of competition for racing, after several attempts to compete, most races were 2-3 planes in a race. In this case, I would also recommend the starter bundle then pick the class you love (unlimited for me) because I love flying the P51s outside of the race mode. Or, skip the Reno package and just get the planes you want. The biggest drawback for Reno and MSFS are the bugs introduced with each release. With a year plus of buggy updates, there is no telling how long it will take to get a stable release.
I hate to feed the their success by making another purchase. I think that if they have fewer purchases and bad reviews that explains why nobody is purchasing it, then maybe they will produce a better product. Numbers ($$$$) make a huge difference with any product.
Yeah...they should come out with another product line..."Microsoft Flight" for all the half-assed/arcadish stuff. Over the past year, they've made some progress, but I think they're still spreading themselves out way too thin! #PutSimulationBackIntoMSFS
I went the full collection version even after watching this video...
I got the full meal deal of 40 planes, and I'm happy when you consider you'll pay the same or more for a single plane such as the DC6, CRJ, or one of the payware airliners. I think the PMDG 737 will be over $100.
PMDG have stated that the 737 will be much cheaper than that.
@@SizzlingPopcorn We can only hope,.. I'll believe it when I see it. But over $70 USD for sure.
437 LIKES?!?!!?! That is one of the highest like-to-view ratios I have ever heard of in the history of RUclips.
It’s an old one, but still a good one! The expansion was a dud from the beginning and they didn’t do much to revive it.
A after race replay is missing.Whe need spectacular fly by TV style replay cams.Esspecialy on console xbox series x.Even in free flights mode whe don't have instant replay cams.Developers get to work.
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Flying in third person looks real arcadish. Did you try it in the cockpit ? what form of control where you using ? I bought the whole shebang and like it. It is to bad that the course is not set up when flying out of Stead. It would be fun to be able to fly the corsair, P38 or the P40 thru the time trials at least.
I've used both the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro and the Honeycomb Alpha...inside and outside view. Haven't played it since.
If it included other unlimited aircraft like Bearcats or Sea Furies maybe but, no. There is nothing here above the single plane per class option that is of interest to me and then it's not something I will be rushing to get if get at all.
I´m not too sure... Maybe I´ll get the base pack at some point and if I really want a specific plane, I might get that as a single purchase.
Thanks for your sacrifice. I'll wait till it becomes free.
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Air racing in VR in the cockpit is absolutely incredible. I wish they'd move the stupid hud though it blocks the center....
Me too. I just turn it off in the settings when in the race lobby, but it has to be done every time.
Yeah its full tard it got released that way, along with the whole bug with clicking items in vr since goty!
Aside from the Pitts...the planes seem different to control.
Racing it's self is meh but hey, it's something different. I bought the full collection as I knew I wanted to fly a Garmin or glass cockpit L-39 in the world sim and wasn't sure which version I'd prefer, I've enjoyed the glass cockpit Red Thunder with it's autopilot, etc. but it still feels like a big step down from DCS. Overall I'd say the $60 "collection" feels overpriced like the "premium deluxe" version of the base sim but is worth getting if you're heavily in flight sims and/or want the base Reno Expansion and one or more of the race class packs to fly in the "world".
There's definitely a need for someone to review the individual Class Packs and compare the aircraft/cockpits when flown in the World.
I bought the full pack, expecting airraces on multiple locations. I did some races in the biplane and it's just one circle.. extremely easy to control the plane so me and the other guys almost did the exact same laptimes, ending with a 0.001 difference. Since we were nonstop flying at full speed there was also not any overtaking, we were just flying in circles. Not any excitement or ways to overtake others. I still feeling I'm missing out here.. please tell me I didn't spend 60,- just to fly around in circles :-/
You and I kinda did, but I am going to use those planes and their variations in Freemode from time to time. So I am fine with it.
@@ShadowGhostHD Yeah I don't mind having those planes, but they are kind of simple, not everything is functional in the cockpit.. for this money I'd rather have bought some more functional planes. I'm just so surprised that this Reno addon is so extremely basic :-/ I think multiplayer will die quickly since the races themself are very boring.
@@MrEDET Yeah, not enough variety and lobbies are quite empty. It’s 2021! They should have had private matchmaking from the get-go so people could create their own leagues……buuuuuuut no! They’re NOW only looking at private matchmaking because someone asked in the Dev Q&A in Oct! Just image COD or some other FPS and tell players that they can only play with their friends in the rarest occasion that the AI matches them together. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I'm glad i watched this video. I've never watched real reno air races, so i wasn't sure what it will be like. Personally i also hoped for a much larger variety in the races and not just flying i circles. I'll definitely skip this and hope that this will at some point turn into a sandbox for 3rd party races through cities, canyons or other more exciting stuff.
Yes, this should open things up for 3rd party devs to create races, but I don’t think you’ll see leaderboards. They still don’t have that for 3rd party landing challenges due to privacy issues.
I have a question. After 7 months I'm going back and playing this but how do you get the Reno steed airport to just to just use with any with annual plane to take off and land in? Now I know you can just type in the Reno steed airport, but its empty! No people or planes. I have this package and it's the full $60 package and I'm just wondering how I can use that airport for other aircraft?
I normally don't put an end point when bush flying. You should be able to see it or choose it as the starting point. I haven't been in MSFS since end of Feb, when I lost my soul to taxes! Now that tax season has been over since the end of April, I've gone back to racing on iRacing and haven't put much content on here, however, I have a few races that I'll be posting in the next week or so, like the rollercoaster ride that I was on tonight: going from 3rd to 1st by start/finish, then dropping to 9th and then....you'll have to watch the video to see how it ends! 🤣🏎🏁
@@SizzlingPopcorn nice! Thank you!
I purchased the base expansion and I only did time trials and free flights. Unfortunately the number of CTDs is so high that I was never able to finish a run for the unlimited category, nor for jets.
Are you all able to complete a time trial for these 2 categories?
Yes, there's time trials for all 4 classes.
Thanks! Just saved me $40!!!!
You’re welcome! 😎
The lack of players to fly against is surprising to me. The most i have seen in a race is 4.
Almost as if there's barely any demand for this kind of activity in the MSFS demographic and it just seems like Asobo only did it for the sponsor money.
I’ve had 8 only once, but then 2-3 drop out. I’ve tried on different servers and it’s a low turnout.
Well still no STOL races..
However, anyone reading this right now.
The full Reno Air Race pack is like 60% off right now, including the base package DLC.
Im still just going to get the base package.
Thanks for this video! Helped me a lot.
Also has there been anymore tracks or anything interesting added or changed since you made this video?
Bc i wasnt able to even purchase this bc it was greyed out for a few months..
This is pretty much dead for the past year. Nobody races. Nothing updated other than having private races. I was part of a competition this summer that was sponsored by Tobii, but hasn’t drummed up more interest.
i bought the base game, tried each of the 4 aircraft and decided i liked racing the mustang, checked all the planes for sale and found one i liked the panel, miss america and bought it - been a blast racing, teaches some great precision flying skills, i prefer flying in cockpit view, more realistic and quite a bit more thrilling watching the ground go by at 340mph from the cockpit - i aklso bought th l39 red lightning jet to just fly in the sim, has a nice glass panel, autopilot and great visibilty, fast and agile for fun high altitude flying
I'm enjoying this content (bar the lap counter blocking my view in VR - hopefully a fix will come out for that) but it's very over priced for how arcade like it is. There needs to be a lot of nuance added to the flying experience to give you more control over your lap times as at the minute it's just throttle full and fly in circles with little you can do to to really tweak your lap time or catch people.
The base pack price is fine if the planes had a proper flight model outside of the races.
@@dunxy This has been my solution too. It's not convenient to move it at the start of a race and as it doesn't remember where you moved it so you have to do it every time - and that's if moving it even works, which remains very hit and miss. It's a shame as I kind of like having my lap times visible, though not so fussed about the map. Really don't know why it was ever a floating hud element though when it could have been done sympathetically/without ruining the immersion by sticking it on a tablet in the cockpit like many of the planes use for checklists and the like. This has been one of those releases where I wonder if the developers even tried their own game.
I purchased this last year the day it came out and bought the full package with all 40 aircraft. Well I had fun for about A-day so I understand exactly what you're saying about how not to buy all of these planes!!! Agreed!!!! I can't remember because it's been so long since I've even fired it up, but do you get this this airport to play on anytime you want with other aircraft or can it not be accessed?
Yes, you have the Reno Air Races setup when you fly outside the mode. People that don't have it won't see it.
Yeah, I haven't looked at Reno Air Races since a month after it was released, just to see if there were any changes. There have been, but not much for me to go back to it. I'd rather iRacing for racing.
I bought the full collection
I was tempted by the base pack, but after seeing this video I think I'll spend my money (or not!) on something else, especially when my fav plane of the 4 is the Pitts which is in the game anyway. And what is this with Americans and left turn only racing?! ;-)
I pretty much haven’t played with this since a couple days after release. There’s not enough people in the lobbies and flying/racing is like an arcade game!
@@SizzlingPopcorn Interesting. I've reflected on this a bit more and have decided that I really need to complete all the GA training elements, bush trips, etc. and enjoy the base game first (which IS well worth the time and money).
If you buy this can you use these planes in the world map free play ?
Yes. I'd recommend going with the base to see if you like it before getting more or upgrading to the complete pack.
That was some twitchy flying
This was not on Twitch 🤣
I am not interested in racing. What I want to see is the bugs ironed out of the sim, better quality control for updates, and aircraft with opening doors. That is just a start.
Anyone else having problems with their throttle and flaps after update 7?
No - other than the F/A-18 having autoflaps when it shouldn’t.
Only 1 circuit to fly
Now the sim got to game status,
Definitely ARCADE status now! Reno Air Races + F/A-18 💩💩💩….they keep spreading themselves thin and producing subpar content
On Xbox multiplayer is confined by the need for a 'game pass'. Without AI planes, the offering is very weak. The standardised planes with limited features currently make this not too attractive for me.
I personally really love Flight Sims and I also really enjoy competitive games and being competitive.
This is exactly the pinch of seasoning I needed to make me love Flight Sim even more
I disagree regarding the full package, at 1,50$ for each plane I think it's excellent value for the money if you like these kind of planes!
I'm not expecting the same amount of features in planes that cost so little compared to a plane for 30-60 dollars.
Enjoying the Reno races greatly myself, but I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea.
It's excellent value for the money IF you care for the planes in the first place. If someone doesn't care about the T6, they probably really don't care if they could have ten of them for 1.50 each
I can't believe that they've implemented such a Money Cutting Arcade Element into the Flight Simulator!
I hate how the Market Place is now flooded with endless and expensive color variants of the same!
I hate how they pretend you can save lots of Money by "only" paying 59,99 EUR instead of a theoretical bunch of 419,99 EUR!
I bet there will be one idiot in the world that will buy all 40 aircraft separately and pay full price…then contact MS to find out there’s no refunds! 🤣🤣🤣
if the p51 or t-6 were anything close to “study level” i would have thrown my money at it. it’s just more default aircraft though. i’m most definitely not interested in anything like that.
I was disappointed to find all those extra planes were just liveries.
They’re not liveries. They’re uniquely modified aircraft however it makes no difference when racing, just in time trials.
No Rare Bear, 232, Czech Mate, Precious Metal, etc. Massively disappointing.
The T-6 and Mustang are very arcade type and not even close to the real things! If you’re looking for a real flying experience, take a pass but if you’re happy with a simple arcade game then you might be happy
Yep - I think this whole Reno Races was to get some arcade gameplay that could be used with an Xbox controller. F/A-18 in the SU7/GOTY isn't impressive either.
Arcade, that's exactly my thought after flying these planes. They are way too easy to control. Never flown them in real life obviously, but the biplanes are so easy to control that it makes the racing very boring.
It is not cheap
I purchased the Reno Expansion Pack and my Microsoft store account indicates that the download is completed, but the install failed and locked up the marketplace. On the phone with support for hours today and no resolution. Support re-installed the complete MSFS 2020 game and hours later.... no luck. Had to replace the contents of the community folder and that all works okay. Microsoft says no refund for content bought from the marketplace. I would have been disappointed with the arcade character of this content anyway.
It actually not that bad!
Update: I tried support directly from Asobo and after eight days, screen shots and proof of purchase the content was available to re-download. I don't care for the racing, but the Texan and Mustang are worth the price.
What keeps me from buying this.... same location? really? i dunno i don't own it! same circuit? just same place around and around.. if it had different geographical locations different circuits, courses whatever then it may be more interesting... but around and around we go at Reno...that's it?....
140 to purchase all and then a subscription. No thanks to your money grab.
one more comment, it would have been nice to add the pylons in the main reno area so can fly practice laps
Wont be buying the Reno Air Races Expansion as I have no friends.
Ok, I will skip on this…
Definitely!
No Formula 1 planes? No thanks.
It looks fun but this sim is so poorly optimized that I don't know if it's worth it for me... I really wish this ran smoother.
Frames drop when you enter the expansion, but didn’t noticed any drops in races.
Poorly optimized? FSX/P3D code was poorly optimized. I get 45-65 smooth, stutter-free FPS depending on my location. (ICYW:11700k, 2080 super, 32G Ram, high to ultra settings). Flight sims are not first person shooters, so you are not going to get 200+ FPS.
@@widerfov Your argument is fair. I guess it's just because a smooth 60fps on ultra doesnt hold for me with 5600x, RTX 3070, and 16gb 3600mhz RAM.
@@widerfov I get 30-45 on high/ultra, but I’ve got 4 monitors and a bunch of stuff running at the same time as streaming or recording. Like you said, we’re not expecting an FPS frame rate. On iRacing, I’ll get 120-200, but you need that to see your apexes much clearer and because you’re moving so fast. 😎
@@variatonesoundscape5592 I haven't used AMD with MSFS so I can't say if it stutters or not. Your system sounds more than capable to achieve smooth frames.
It looks boring, like really boring.