Ju52 TURKEY SHOOT - WW2 Combat Air Patrol | Aeroplane Heaven P-47D "Razorback" | Review | MSFS
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In this video, we take a look at the Aeroplane Heaven P-47D "Razorback", within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
We will be putting the "jug" through its paces; departing out of ALG-B9 (Lantheuil/Creuilly), to intercept and shoot down a German Junkers Ju52, carrying important military personnel outbound from occupied Jersey.
ALG-B9 Scenery: miltechsimulations.com/produc...
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
ASUS Z790
Intel Core i9 13900K 5.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
64GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! 
Игры
Great review and semi tutorial as always. Note to the developer: It is very highly recommended to update the sound.
It just came out give em a sec
@@Boeing45rHave they improved the P-51 sounds?
@@Nathan-bd6cq idk i haven’t checked but if they are a good an responsible “company” they should
Great video and the P47 has been one of my favourite WW2 for years since IL-2 1946.
What a great video... so reminiscent of Combat FS of days gone by... I spent so many hours in that sim. Your comments are fair and I really liked your running commentary/tutorial. Really well done!! Thank you 😃
Thank you very much, Father!
I’m really glad you enjoyed the video and that it brought back some nice memories of CFS (I too spent many hours in that sim).
Much appreciated and all the best to you! : )
Can't wait till you try lancaster on its release whenever that is.
Likewise Monty, I’m very much looking forward to the Lancaster also (with the P-47 showing improvement in a number of areas and Aeroplane Heaven reportedly bringing onboard a reputable sound designer for the Lanc / Hurricane, I’m keeping my hopes up that both addons will meet expectations : )
Cheers and all the best!
Another great and comprehensive review! Just purchased the Piper Comanche based on your recommendation. Sounds like Aeroplane Heaven's P-47D is a near miss for now. Hope they introduce an update that addresses your issues and I will be a buyer! Love the P-47D ... would be a nice addition to MSFS.
As someone living in Jersey its great to see my island in here
Only aircraft I’ve bought in msfs that exists in DCS is the HB F14 which is exceptional. I’m to used to DCS version after spending ages learning it with great frustration but ultimately hugely satisfying. Thx for video
Great review, I flew the wings off this plane in CFS so I have been waiting for this airplane. And I also like the airfield. I just picked it up for some D-Day Anniversary flights. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thanks very much FSVRD, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video (and that the P-47 is bringing back some nice memories)!
My absolute pleasure on the vid! Happy flying and all the best : )
Another wonderful review. I'm enjoying this aircraft too. Years ago I watched a documentary where some veteran P-51 and P-47 pilots reminisced about attacking Ju52 transports full of young soldiers being moved into battle. They tried not to think too much about what carnage those 50 cal guns were doing to the troops inside the fuselage of the German aircraft - understandable. I do hope Aeroplane Heaven take your comments and feedback on board, it would not take too much to move this offering from great to excellent in my view.
That attack in the Med is particularly chilling account, huh?!!
Thank you very much, Terry!
Yes, the AH P-47 is pretty nice overall and as you say, it wouldn’t take a whole lot to turn it into a great addon. Unfortunately, I don’t think Aeroplane Heaven care very much about anything I have to say (unless I’m missing something obvious, I’ve pointed out the “dead” VSI on their Spit, Mustang and P-47 but, it looks as though their Hurricane still has the same issue) XD
As Tom says, that attack / documentary is a rather chilling thought. . .
Cheers, as always! Have a great weekend : )
I love the look and the Jug is one of my all time favorite warbirds. The sound thing is disappointing (especially the fly by) and I don't know if it's just me but the heat vectors coming from the exhaust seem exaggerated _AND_ they didn't change with speed. Funny what little things can bug me to the point.
When (if?) I get around building a modern rig, I'm afraid I'll have to spend the money for multiple sims. I miss the final iteration of FSX with TacPac. That alone is why I might drop the money on P3D. The VRS Superbug and A2A is almost worth the sacrifice of the stunning visuals in MSFS.
Truth be told, I'll probably put FSX back on just to have access to my massive collection of A2A, my VRS and RazBams with TacPac.
Added in Edit: From a P-47 pilot I knew when in middle school. The wide stance of the landing gear allowed for an intentional ground loop if brakes were out or the runway left was too short.
Thank you for this excellent review and your honest criticisms of their model! I'm sure they will take them to heart and release an update soon. Until then, for warbirds in msfs, I'd still go for the ones made by FlyingIron (Spitfire, Hellcat). If I wanted to fly WWII scenarios, I would still go for the DCS Thunderbolt, along with one of the campaigns made by Reflected Simulations.
Thanks very much, Andreas! My pleasure on the video - I’m glad you thought it was honest / fair.
I very much agree with your assessment regarding FlyingIron / DCS; sometimes it’s nice to just “mix things up” a bit in MSFS though (for the sake of the video : )
Cheers and all the best!
GREAT intro Captain. What our heros went through??? Thanks for the video, yes, the plane need a bit of work but certainly would be fun to fly! !! !!!
Very nice. I was able to see the only flying P-47D Razorback at EAA Airventure last summer. It was quite stunning.
Cor that sounds marvellous at idle.
If memory serves the exhaust of the P-47 was not out the bottom of the cowl like that, but instead out of that blister just ahead of the tailwheel due to the exhaust being routed to behind the pilot where the turbo charger resided. Definitely some work needed on this aircraft, but it seems promising.
There are actually 2 exhausts on the P-47D. The rear exhaust is where the majority of the exhaust goes after going through the supercharger/turbocharger system (Name seems to change depending on the diagram used). The front one is for the wastegate for excess exhaust gasses, as well the oil cooler being ahead of it.
Apparently on current civilian P-47's flying, the turbo/supercharger system is disconnected and all exhaust goes through the forward exhaust. The system was very vulnerable to exhaust fires, and it would more often than not lead to the loss of the aircraft.
Nope, there are two exhausts under the engine cowl flaps, just under the wing root on each sides.
@@timothybird7450 Yes you're right, as modern day p-47 don't need to escort bombers at high altitude but are preserved for airshows, the turbo charger is not used anymore.
I stand corrected. There are indeed two exhausts behind the lower cowl. The model is still not right though as it appears to be coming out the oil cooler. ruclips.net/video/K4vuGy9WkQk/видео.htmlsi=CorAzma0B_UieK2Q
I would be curious to see what you think about the Shrike Sabrejet. Your reviews have always been useful to me, quite above any others I have watched. You do great work.
Gear down and flaps down right at 200mph is to fast. Per AN 01-65-BC-1 those are not to exceed speeds: don't lower to gear above 200mph, don't lower the flaps above 195mph and don't exceed 250mph with the gear extended.
Landing you're supposed to line up at around 150mph, and lower the gear and flaps, and avoid making turns below 130 mph.
Approach and landing speed should be 115-120mph. You seemed like you were a bit nose low.
On the turbo interlock, it wasn't in the original versions. Later a latch was added that would catch the throttle is the turbo was advanced beyond the throttle and push the throttle forward with it.
In operation, it was most efficient to advance the throttle first, leaving the turbo not even engaged, until you run out of throttle, and then start advancing the turbo. But the turbo is super laggy so you get a quicker power response out of the throttle.
Great review iTB! Keep up the great work!
Nice SIM...Just needs better Sound & Gun Vibration as well as Tracer.
Another great presentation..... I always enjoy your reviews.. Thank you so much..... Roger.... Pembrokeshire...
It really looks nice overall, despite a few niggles. But that looped engine sound ... it has such an obvious artificially sounding repeating pattern in such a short interval that it's getting really annoying, really fast just watching the video. The big trick in looping sounds is to make them sound like they are not looping, which they didn't manage at all. It's unfortunate ... still hoping for a third party replacement sound solution before I pull the trigger at the given price point (or a big sale discount). It is on the shopping list, though.
why can they not include a flywheel sound for the inertial starter? Counting 10sec in silence is not great. There seems to be all kinds of overlapping engine sounds as the increase to full throttle is made and the usual tin can sound still persists. Still i think this is the best plane AH have done to date but still more work to be done before Ill part money for an AH aircraft. Awesome Review as usual. Thanks
Just bought a Bruner ffb yoke cannot wait, it’ll be rugged with these sort of planes
Personally, I definitely don't need study level, but I do want immersion. The sounds, or lack thereof, can kill that immersion and I wish all developers would pay more attention to it. Particularly things like switches and the sound of the engine when you have canopy or doors opened or closed. And is it just me, or have they gone way over the top with the exhaust heat haze?
Yeah, noticed that right away. No sound effects for certain switches makes me sad and really shouldn't be a thing for a $30-40 aircraft! And yeah, the heatblur effect is way overdone.
I totally agree, Adam. I think there are a lot (most) of simmers that don’t need 100% “realism” however, I think all of us want to feel fully immersed and sound is one of the most important factors in that regard. Years ago, missing sounds etc were quite acceptable, I don’t think that is any longer the case. The heat haze does seem pretty OTT, yes haha.
Cheers, sir! All the best : )
Been waiting for a P-47 since MSFS 2000 launched. Too bad it's from Aeroplane Heaven. Their planes always look good, but they always take too many shortcuts with systems and flight modeling. Their P-51D did NOT fly like a P-51D. More like an early jet, the auto mixture was not auto and prop pitch angle at high RPM looked like the prop was feathered, not at it's engine off, flattest pitch.
It's also a razorback and not the more powerful, capable and better looking D -N model. I'll wait until Flying Iron puts out an MSFS version of their DCS N model. Now THAT will be a Thunderbolt worth getting.
I think that you have a new career opportunity ahead of you - Simulator Movie Producer/Writer/Director lol. Good wishes.
How do you get your airfields in these historic videos to look so period correct! It’s amazing! Same with your dc-3 video. I would love to be able to do that to my own game. Is there a mod you’re using that does this?
You're lucky that JU57 hasn't got guns, he was right on your 6 before you spotted him!
Nice stuff as usual though!
Help with flash animation. I have none. Gun sights is on and when I add bombs or tanks the red light does not come on if if plan is of side of weight. I have gun😢😢 sounds but no flash. Is there something I need to do to load the bullet ammos
Can’t stand a painted on HUD. That’s enough to make it a no purchase for me, all other issues aside.
I've wanted a P47 since MSFS came out. After watching this review I can say without a doubt, I'll not buy this product. The closest we can currently get to the P47 in the sim is the Flyingiron F6F and the Milviz F4U, both of which are in a completely different league!
Jago! These aircraft were brutally effective in the breakout in the Normandy campaign. Dominant. Tore up everything from tanks to generals. Source: Hargreaves, The Germans in Normandy. Jagdbomber (Jabo). fighter-bomber. Slang. Also, Tiefflieger (low flying strafer). US i believe named them 'Jug' due to resemblance to a milk jug. But there is also suggestion is a complex fusion of English and US slang on UK bases where a long walk to the Thunder Box was not appealing, pilots kept a chamber pot in the hut - this erm often took form of a, ahem, milk jug. Making the P-47 a massive hollow heavy pi$$ pot! Seriously tho Hargreaves worth reading of the terror and turmoil the Jabo/Jug wrought in the West. A Thunder Jug. 😅
Thanks very much for the info, Tom! I had about the former explanation for “Jug”, but not the latter haha XD
All the best! : )
Nice video, you should try the P-47 in DCS instead.
Hey Sir. Hope you are doing well. Sir what is that blinking lite that says orbital turbo speed. Why is it blinking sir? Over all great flight of course. Thank you sir
Sorry sir I meant turbo over speed. Sorry sir
Excellent video as always. What's up with AH's sound effects? Such a shame. I'd pay around $50 for a good P51 Mustang if they actually made a good one.
Thank you very much once again, sir!
Yes, AH often seems to fall short on the sounds, unfortunately (all the more so, given that sounds are of the utmost importance on a warbird). That being said, they do seem to have taken some strides to address the issue (eg taking on Echo 19 for their Hurricane sounds and updating the MKI shortly after release). I see that they have just released another update to their P-51; I’m unsure whether that includes improved sounds and I have yet to try the update. Hopefully things will improve going forwards (and especially for the Lanc!).
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations: Glad to hear about the update. Let us know if the sound issues have been fixed on the P51 because I’ll definitely be purchasing that if so.
Thanks!
how did you get the cowl flaps to close?
Hello, how do you toggle guns on/off?
Not worth the money why is the engine muted on the fly by should be loud. Also canopy open and close sound change is non existent which is a massive thing
i am a little confused why the 3rd party devs for MSFS make jet fighters, bombers, and ww2 fighters for MSFS, surely it makes more sense to put the modules in DCS? are they difficult to work with or is there less money in combat sims? it would be nice to know.
It’s nice to just be able to fly warbirds or military aircraft anywhere in the world and in incredible scenery. DCS does not allow this. There is definitely a financial element too; DCS is far more niche and modules have to be developed to a much higher level as every aircraft (apart from flaming cliffs) is study level. The amount of time and effort to get even a passable module in DCS is insane. DCS players rightly expect a lot from their modules.
@cmdrfurai9939 's answer is perfect. You'll see vague models of military aircrafts popping up all the time on thrMSFS marketplace. Developping them seems to be a matter of weeks (obviously not for the good stuff like Flying Iron...), when developping a proper module for DCS takes years, litterally. Just have a look at the incoming F4 from Heatblur (just the manual in itself is incredible) to understand the difference. Abnd top of that, there simply cannot be a payware addon to DCS that hasn't been vetted by Eagle Dynamics. It has to integrate with other systems, have a damage model, and so on.
The idea of flying military craft outside of war is more of roleplay, training or spectacle such as airshows, i like to fly the Eurofighter up and down Britain landing at military bases, or pretend to be moving military cargo with a larger plane, it's always great to see the Spitfire so i might fly it around the UK and attempt some landings in some grassy fields for the challenge, i'm not a big roleplayer i just use it as an excuse for doing certain flights.
I play DCS also but that's a lot more about learning to use systems and deploy weapons, i prefer to fly in MSFS.
In addition to what's been said here... Eagle Dynamics, who make DCS, are quite a lot harder to work with than the much more open MSFS platform. Existing third party studios have described their discontent with how ED treats them, and I'm not just talking about Razbam at this point.
I think it really depends on what you want to to do, and how often, with these war-birds. I just want to fly sometimes a WWII war-bird, with my existing add-ons and scenery, and without having an entire different simulator for that - especially if I don't want any combat.
Can you check out the Iris T-6B
Shooting down a civilian Ju-52... are you the baddies? :)
bro plz , knock that choke off ...
Hard disagree on the sounds. After flying the DCS P-47, Flying Iron Hellcat and Milviz Corsair the sound package from this plane is mediocre at best. All mentioned are Double Wasps as well.
Yep. the DCS one feels alive. I'm not fan of the Milviz's Corsair, but the Flying Iron's Hellcat is amazing.As you said, all of these with Double Wasps, this from AH does not sound like that at all.
Why don't you use VR the only way to go for me
Your PC spec should handle it.
Hi Jeffrey,
When it comes to personal use, I *very* much enjoy simming in VR (though sadly, I get very little time to do it these days). When it comes to recording content, I don’t find VR recordings to be very viewer-friendly so, I stick with 2D.
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
The sounds on the F6F6 are way better and that one has same engine. fc the sounds on the P-38 are rubbish so I guess all devs have hits an misses.
Turbos do very complex things to the sound profile of an engine.
@@HarryVoyager Yes but the way the engine starts is not modified by the turbo.
Msfs is NOT a simulator if you can’t have guns, bombs or missiles on the plane. Garbage sim.