What Changes If You Find Nick Valentine Without The Quest in Fallout 4?
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- It took me EIGHT YEARS to find out that you can skip the beginning of the game, and without entering Diamond City, go straight to Nick Valentine in Fallout 4. I became curious about what would change in such a case, like some dialogues. Will the scene with Piper near the gates of Diamond City still happen, and will Nick be involved? To check this, I went straight to the vault to rescue Valentine, killed a bunch of gangsters, and released the detective. After a while, we got out of that location, and then we had a dialogue. If you go to him after his secretary tells you about his location, you can inform him about it. But since I found him myself, here's what my character said.
If you keep playing there’s an npc called Preston who needs your help with a settlement
He'll even mark it on your map for you!
There is also a random NPC named Preston Garvey who asks you to donate money to him to help rebuild the minutemen. Usually find him walking down the railroad tracks.
The question I have is which one is the synth because you kill this one he has no synth parts, but you can't kill. The Preston who sends you to help settlements.
They never get old!
Yep just let draw with a marker on the pipboy
@@Robert53areahe was the real one and you shot him? Rip
God it's really been 8 years now hasn't it....
Remember preordering it and it coming late and being heartbroken but when I got it it was a really peaceful and happy time in my life and probably the last time I was a child. Love ❤️
@@Sparton830 same ngl. I miss those times
“Looks at my 8year old kid…. “Yes
Only 16 years until es6 😂
@@stagecoachprepperthata crazy! 😂😂
I actually did this on accident my first play through just exploring same with fallout 3 I accidentally wound up where the sleep simulation thing was happening where your dad was
I did the same in 76 with the overseer
I did the same lol! I was young and dumb and couldn’t figure out how to navigate the ruins. Was just randomly running around and found the sleep thing.
Same
My guy you’ve gotta stop walking into random vaults
Yeah I was almost lvl 25 when I went to tranquility lane, sadly I was too high of a lvl to meet the Lyons Pride and couldn't talk to Three Dog, I killed all the mutans and behemoth alone but it was not really worth it.
To be fair, he's probably seen Piper and the Mayor get into it so many times it's not worth noticing.
Same like why
I like it when Piper annoys the Mayor lol
@@RuuvakBeyn I hope you know the mayor is a synth it's even funnier when it goes ignore this rabble rouser good sir
I've also tried to go straight to Kellogg, but it doesn't allow you to skip that part of the storyline.
Same it would've been funny if there was different dialogue if you stumbled in there on accident
what if you noclip and go straight to the institute?
Institute is an interior cell. This means you can't just noclip under ground to get there. You have to use some kind of door, teleportation acts like it in case of Institute. @@Raooka
@@Raooka with mods you can go to the Institute but it acts broken. Some dialogue will work, some wont, but you cant progress the main story without triggering Kellogs event.
Or just more mods lol.
@@pavuk357what if console commands?
Wait how did you-
Nate: dunno.. coincidence?(actually traveled back in time)
"I have my ways"
Did you know you can skip a lot of F3’s main quest by leaving vault 101 and going straight to 112 where you’ll find dad in the simulation.
they couldve atleast code locked the vault or something
Better yet, you can go straight to the Vault 87 and an even bigger part of the quest should be skipped
@Josh_1312 you can't kill all the supermutants in vault 87 when you're level 1
@@staskandan I'm just saying than you can do this part of the main storyline at any given moment, but yeah, muties are hella tough there. Maybe you can theoretically sneak or run past them, I don't know.
@@staskandan Thats why you go straight to the Outcasts and do the Anchorage DLC, get the stealth suit. Optionally, hunt down the schematics for the dart gun.
If you go to good neighbor to the memory den right off the bat you do the relive your escape from the vault and the kidnapping. The Lady who runs the place will tell you to go find Nick.
Yeah 😅 That’s what happened to me my first time
This is worthwhile, as you get a quest, and XP from the quest and passing a speech check.
@@ErosXCaos And you never even have to encounter Preston Garvey
@@Armsby5134 I know you’re meming, but I like Preston. Though, never for romance. He called me baby, once. I quit out and deleted that save game. Just too weird.
@@ErosXCaosyou know what is the best way to deal with Preston, help him out of concord, and don't meet him again until you are the leader of nuka world. Come back with disciple armor, you can't kill him but it is funny when he tries to attack you and you beat him down.
Theres at least one instance of a new player going the wrong way to diamond city, exploring the subway just cause, then unintentionally discovering nick valentine
that was me- i did everything but the main quest 😭
The game broke and Piper was stuck outside repeating dialogue.
You could make her help you with the other tribes and that would fix her
Use tck to fly to top of wall and close the gate
This is a common speedrun tactic
So you were just unlucky
You got bethesdad
Patrolling the mojave makes you wish for a nuclear winter
"You will die like a dog" -lobsta
Fallout 76 good new vegas bad
**drinks soy milk**
@@TheTenthLeper i did not get it
Wait another 8 years for Fallout 5
Fat fuckin chance with 76 existing.....
76 absolutely sucks. I love 4soo much better
I'm 70: I'll be dead by then. I'm p *ssed that Howard wasted so much effort and time on starfield and should have done the fallout new Vegas remaster, or even part two, or fallout five.... elder scrolls 6....
@stevenwilgus8982 Don't say that! You are 70. So in 2040 when it finally gets released, you WILL be playing it.
Just keep working out daily, eat a balanced diet of meat and vegetables and before you know it, you'll be an 80 year old bodybuilder playing Fallout 5!
The weirdest thing is you cannot find the sewer grate that you and nick *Exit the sewers from* it just appears after you rescue him.
Glad it wasn't just me being dumb and unable to find it.
Yea it appears to be covered with the garbage then when your exit it the garbage is gone
The way I remember my first Fallout 3 playthrough, I went straight to Rivet City from the vault, it was a terrifying journey. I walked the wrong way, didn't see megaton and just kept walking until I found safety. Anyway when I got there a woman brightly told me she knew where my dad was. "That was easy" I thought, somehow forgetting the hours I spent crouch walking past Centaurs, Death Claws, Super Mutants and Feral Ghouls.
Is this a false memory? It seems unbelievable that you could do this, or that I would.
not a false memory hahahah i recently replayed fo3 and its been over a decade and i accidentally done the same thing like i knew where threedog was and all that but i started pottering around megaton doing sidequests and the quests for moira at craterside supply lead you to rivet city to finish them and get the perks off her and i spoke to dr Li without remembering that she was who i was supposed to be looking for anyway and i ended up doing the main story from there.
downside of it tho is that you gotta go back and do the 3dog quest killing the behemoth etc anyway if you want to be able to connect to Galaxy News Radio from anywhere on the map so you can listen to those tunes while you play
you could do that yeah, also you must be pretty unlucky to met a deathclaw on your way to rivet city
I learned that after having the game for 2 weeks
Tbh it's always fascinating how they compensate for things like this, nice touchs.
In basically all my playthroughs now, I ignore Preston until I've taken care of the Nuka-World DLC. You can do the whole thing, get the perks from the gangs, then kill all the gangs. If you do it this way, Preston will never get mad at you for being a Raider leader.
For me it didn't work that way, unfortunately. I thought it would, and everything was normal until he got to Sanctuary, where he then said he heard I was the leader of Nuka World and that if we were going to keep talking, I would have to take them out. Similar to what happens after he's already a companion, but you can still recruit him after since he doesn't feel as betrayed. Of course this was SEVERAL years ago, so my memory of exact words is shoddy.
EDIT: I think actually things ARE what you said, sorry, 2 AM commenting makes me skip over details
Honestly I have an idea for the quest first be the raider leader and lead them into the Commonwealth
i think it's a shame you're forced to take over settlements in the commonwealth or kill everyone. i personally use mods to skip raiding the commonwealth but it baffles me they thought it was a good choice to force players into this position. although most people don't care if preston hates them.
It took me 10 years to find the answer to something, i forgot about it in 2 seconds
So this is where Happy Chaos went.
I kinda wish the gates were still closed when we arrive n that's when they decide to open it cuz nick was there n banter a little w piper
I'm currently on a HEAVILY modded playthrough and haven't even talked to Codsworth yet ( at lvl 42). Just doing the quests provided by the mods. I think I'll just do this instead of dealing with all the vanilla BS leading up to it.
Easier way than that if youre modding. Just use SKK fast start mods and you can knock out the first acts all together.
Don't talk to Codsy and finish the main story line. It's funnier that way.
@@SkeweredGlaive"How is young Shaun, sir?" "Yeah... about that..."
@@Moonshard9 Yes, exactly
Long live Skyrim's "Enderal"! 🐈
8 years later and nick is still my favorite character
This where obsidian would shine in the production of the game. Pls we need another fallout game produced by them
That company is gone now
Have you ever played fallout new vegas or 3? The while franchise basically let’s you do what you want from the start just without telling you! In new Vegas you can head straight to vegas get in with the NCR and take the monorail will take about 20 mins then just forget house and head straight for the Tops casino to confront benny! I’ll leave it there for now if you’ve never played it 😊
Coward. Real players go through the quarry straight to freeside
i do this p much every playthrough i do because I'm impatient as fuck
I just checked the speedrun any% on fallout 4, I believe it was about half an hour
Since my girl is playing baldersgate I checked that too, 10 minutes
All quests are side quests in fallout.😂
@@realifesuxsometimesin the first this was literal.
The only real main quest were kill the Master and destroy the Mariposa base, so you can finish the game without getting the water chip.
Damn. Your shorts are amazing. I’ve been thinking of ways to make low effort fo4 shorts and this just made me feel stupid.
I do it everytime, because he is the best companion
Paladin danse : am i a joke to you?
@@Ivixity_Bbrotherhood stinks
@theofficialdemonking569 the brotherhood is lame
Dogmeat all the way
Piper's fine ass🍑 is the best companion
It took me three game saves to find that out already
I used to not know this but then I learned you can do this from watching Mitten Squad
😢
Another lesson bestowed upon us by His Excellency. May he forever rest in peace and in our hearts.
RIP Legend
Fun fact if your starting a new playthrough and you don't want to listen to pipers bs at the gate you can just kill her no one will attack you and you can go straight into diamond City and she'll be perfectly fine since you need her to finish the game
Bro spoilers!
Just use SKK fast starts and various completion mods and you can knock out the first act all together in 3 minutes lol.
@@Italkmadshitlol yea but for people who wanna play an un-modded playthrough for the trophys and whatnot it might be a bit easier the way i said lmao
@@Mindcrusher2 unmodded FO4? Whod do that to themselves?
@@Italkmadshitlol lmaooo, real tho
"How did you know where to find me?"
"Oh you know, just out for a stroll, in an abandoned vault, overrun by triggermen. A casual tuesday night."
I like skipping sanctuary and concord all together and going straight to good neighbor, you get to use the memory den to show the lady there your traumatic vault incident and she will direct you to find Nick. No minuteman, no settlements constantly being marked by Preston just story and coping with PTSD.
I did that went to Nick first and the game decided not to allow Piper to join me. She'll say if you do the interview she'd join you but the game glitches and the dialogue for her to join your party glitches and she won't be available as a companion. I also tried it on another playthrough and it did the same thing. But if you want to cut the story short you can rescue Nick and before talking to him at his office go to Kellogg's house and master pick lock his house. It's like cito in Nuka-World if you kill Cito you'll have to do the investigation yourself. Pretty much how you would do it if Cito was alive. But the kicker is you'll have to do it without mission markers. Pretty much doing mission blindly.
The fact that you can do things out of order is one cool thing. How they anticipated all the things people might do for the next 10 years.
Bruh I did this on my first playthough this was my first fallout game lol
I really appreciate these investigative shorts. The way you produce them is also attention grabbing. Thank you.
Imo, best way to start nick valentine quest is go to the memory den first, then succeed the speech check with the owner, and she will you give you the information about nick. I don't know why but it just so cool to introduce him with that way.
I like how you can just never talk to piper and she acts like you've met before
Lol 8yrs, took me the first time playing i was just looking around not bothering wilth the story at first, fond the vault saved nick, didn't know u could meet piper outside diamond city first
Believe it or not i did just that recently before finding this short
Same I wanted Valentine so I could officially join the bos to romance danse
Honestly it's stuff like this that amazes me that the developers think of these little details. I'm sure a lot of them would just make the vault inaccessible until the quest is active.
You know what's even more impressive that this little changes affect how the game progresses.
“When I got this assignment I had hoped there would be more gambling
Finding Nuka world bunker key is hell of a job 😂.
I usually go to mass fusion, get Maccready northeast of it, then get nick valentine southwest of it, then head to diamond city. As for the piper scene, the door is already open for her and shes right there. And she silently gives you the quest
I always save Nick before I get to Diamond City. Mostly because I hit The Combat Zone, Old North Church, and Hubris Comics.
We need more of his detective quests
Omg… that’s how I played the game on my first run through a few years ago. I like to explore. As soon as the game started, I just went in a random random direction kept going and eventually found a Vault. I’m on my second now thanks to the show
If you go straight to fort hagan and vlc clip your way into the elevator, you can skip rescuing nick too
Vlc?
@@thehappyhermit01 not a tomatoanus fan i see. its cool.
Fist play through did this as well. Just looking all over and I was like o the mystery stranger?
Fun fact my first play through I did this by accident, I didn’t even discover diamond city until after saving him
I’ve always done this and it makes the game so much better
This latest playthrough I passed by Diamond City on my way somewhere else before I'd found Nick and the doors were already open.
I did by accident the first time I ever played that game. I didn’t know you weren’t supposed to be in that town so fast.
If only there were a way to skip even more. In F3 you could go straight to Vault 112 if you wanted to (basically skip 1/3 of the story)
Not me thinking he was gonna say Piper At The Gates Of Dawn and getting excited
Interesting, the way I played the game Nick never was lost. I eventually heard on the Diamond City Radio that Nick was back in town and eventually started his quest line when I felt like it.
Dang it was just about to try this tonight and see if there is different dialogue....well gotta go with the old dialogue again lol
Real OG Bethesda players always try to make their own way. That’s why they make alternate dialogues
Real OG Bethesda players never played a game after New Vegas...
Wow! Thank you for finding this and sharing!
I have found so many work around in that game. I always tried to play according to my own decisions I would have made and my game always crashed after some point. I had built my character from the ground up and had everything, however the amount of work arounds I used caused my game to always get stuck after the main story. Eventually the quests that are non ending, like the ones from Preston or procter teagen etc, they just kept sending me to the same thing over and over
This game is so well crafted.
Nick valentine imo is one of the best followers/npcs so many different dialogs and interactions with everything.
My favorite is when nick first sees the prydwen enter the commonwealth and drops one of the coldest lines 💀
I mean, you're not "skipping the beginning" just bypassing some stuff.
Small detail but I love this background music you have on the videos 😎
Nick was such a cool character. He had more humanity than any human in the game.
The more I see videos of this game the more I really want to play it
I like how your character has a scar. He was a soldier and makes it more immersive.
Bruh your simple
I accidentally did that too, but I was using the "subway runners" mod that links up all the subway stations, and I just started at concord and went all the way to the financial district
How long did it take you to find out you can skip finding Dogmeat until when you have to find Kellog and Nick will be the one to summon him via a whistle? 😅
same amount of time😅
I kinda hope our character slightly turns and glances at us for a second before answering 😂
it took me 8 years 🤯 to realise he keep,s saying it took me 8 years
If you show up to the museum of freedom with the power armor and minigun from the roof, the dialog form preston and sturges changes. Turns out you can access the roof from the church next-door. Get the roof of the church, and jump on the tail of the vertibird.
I have never gone straight to diamond city, and get the quest, because usually on the way to where I’m trying to get cait, we’re already in the common so, might as well, mainly because I want to explore, and I think anything around Swan is probably going to be pretty OP, And by the time I find Nick Valentine is the time when my side questing is over
I would leave Vault 111, go immediately to The Commons, and get bodied by Swan. Good times.
It’s been 8 years since I played vanilla fallout 4. I forgot what it looked like.
There was a huge battle between DC guards and Rust Devils in my current play. This totally made the dialogue skip between the mayor and Piper lol I had to instigate the rest of it by talking to the mayor but I haven’t went inside yet so I’m gonna find Nick now first thanks ha
In fallout 3 you can run straight to where your father is being held, instead of following the clues and quests
Player choice is an illusion in fallout 4.
Regardless of what your player does or says, things will carry on the way that's intended for the story.
Pick an ending and the game carries you through toward it no matter what you say or do.
I tried that and the subway station was blocked with garbage.
That sounds like a bug.
Once I discovered this I do it on every play through. Cosworrh is sitting facing a wall in sanctuary forever
I did this by accident too. When I started a new character last weekend.
then it wouldnt be an accident,....you knew whats down there, you started a new charackter
Bedrock can also bonemeal normal size flowers :)
This happens anytime before going to Diamond City
Reminds me of making a b line to smith Casey’s garage in fallout 3
I like these snippets. Keep them coming!
I like going to good neighbor then going to the memory den then going through the memory and she tells you about Nick and you can be sarcastic to her about Nick's sign
i knew this already every time i play fallout i never start with the main missions i always just go explore...
I literally found him before I went to diamond city on my first play through just because I was exploring every corner and cranny
I remember when I figured out "out of time" is the tutorial quest and started trying all this random shit lol
Just wait until you complete Nuka World before meeting Preston Garvey it's super cool.
Not much because somehow we knew he was a detective and that he was the only one who could help us
Wait till his discovers you can skip dogmeat main mission nor ever have to rescue Preston.
preston sucks a**
What if you Ask Mama Murphy about how to find Nick? Also you can go to good neighbor ans Skip the main story until Diamond city where you get a tip to find Valentine
Sole survivor is the mysterious stranger confirmed no other explanation
Yeah, just letting you know this dialogue only appears if you don't talk to the secretary. This isn't like you know skip the game. It's literally just don't talk to the secretary and he will give you this dialogue. This isn't some secret. Oh if you skip the game thing
Still takes eons compared to New Vegas where all you need is an NCR outfit and some luck with the shortcut.
You can skip 90% of the game by feeding Mama Murphy some chems too. If you’re a monster.
If you play all the way and find the institute, Codsworths dialogue will change
I like to ignore Piper entirely until after killing Kellogg because you can get her as a follower then do the interview for her wherever you like
8 years my second play through a fallout 4 I didn't really want to talk to his secretary so I just skipped going straight to the vault you're telling me it took you eight years to find that dialogue
The secretary says the "surprised you found him on your own" line even if you follow the story. I always found the comment odd because the game just points and tells you what to do.
Theres a voice option that'll prompt a response from nick. I think he just makes a comment on something said if I remember right.